Love love love. This is what you call a quality content. 2 very intellectual people mashallah, one can learn college credit worth of material from this stream.
علی بھائی کو میں زیادہ سنتا ہوں کیونکہ ان کا انداز بیان خوبصورت ترین ہے۔بہرحال قیصر احمد راجہ صاحب جب لبریز سے ٹکراتے تو لگ سمجھ جاتی ہے لبریز کو اللہ تعالیٰ آ پ دونوں کو سلامت رکھے آمین
Assalamoalaikum. Qaisar sahib and Ali bhai. Very informative. Please do a stream with Tuaha ibn jaleel, Nomqn ali khan, Adnan Rahseed, and most importantly a gathering wIth Uthman ibn farooq in english. Uthman sahib has more speaking power and explanation capabilities in english than urdu. May Allah accept all your efforts.
Mashallah Me ne saari fallacies examples ke saath likh lee hain. Or future me inhe revise karta rhu ga. Me is awareness pr Emaan Union or Youth club Ka shukr ghuzaar hu. Allah apko asi mazeed videos banany ki taufeek de
all fallacy : 1) what about "ism" 2) missing the point 3) red herring fallacy 4) straw maan fallacy 5) genetic fallacy 6) band wagon 7) circular reasoning 8) appeal to pity, 9) poisoning the well fallacy learn about it , and u will be able to understand when someone using this in any discussion
I think this vedio should see all muslims to protect themselves with liberals/athiset and will be podcast in all educational Inshtiuations to aware students
This will be very interesting to see how Quran was trying to respond intellectually in the Meccan environment (as you guys quoted few examples). This will be a helpful study.
1. What about ism?/Missing the point. ( Never distract, be honest ) 2. Red hearing fallacy. ( Be Straight and forward ) 3. Strawman fallacy. ( don't manipulate real things ) 4. Ad Hominem. 5. Genetic Fallacy. 6. Band beggar fallacy/Ad populism. ( Majority is not authority)( true is true ) 7. Circular reasoning fallacy. 8. Appeal to Pity. ( Don't fall into emotions)( be rational )( wrong is wrong) 9. Poison in the Well.
Fallacies which have been discussed in this session. Whataboutism/Missing the point Red herring fallacy Straw man fallacy Ad Hominem fallacy Genetic fallacy bandwagon fallacy/Ad populum Appeal to pity Poisoning the well
Many people who convert to Islam or revert back to Christianity is because religious organizations provide a sense of community, comradely, fellowship and a sense of belonging. These powerful emotional needs are fulfilled, even if religions are not historically and scientifically accurate or just myths. "ignorance is a bliss" Matrix-quote. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .,,, ,
When people talk about reconciling science and religion, that is only an issue with people who have preconceived ideas, but scientists cannot/should-not have preconceived ideas they must believe the evidence. All scientific models must conform to NATURE or REALITY, If there is any tiny evidence for some unnatural forces then they must include that in their papers/thesis and account for it. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist , , , ,
I believe that we should listen to both side's arguments and then make our own judgement. While listening to this video I found one thing quite ironic. That is, all the logical fallacies brother Qaiser named in this video, he himself commits these fallacies in his own videos. I have watched some of his response videos in which he was responding to Dr Taimur and Dr Pervez. He starts of by, not actually responding to their arguments, but attacking their character. Or he often distort their arguments by saying "Yaani aap ye kehna chah rahy hn". The reality is that all these logical fallacies are much more prevalent in your videos. I mostly find rhetoric arguments in your videos while people like Dr Taimur and Dr Pervez simply put forward their views.
Wah Raja sahib ap ne her rang ki fallacies ka ziker kiya is video mai or inhi sabhi fallacies ka istemaal ap bazat e khud or apki fraud union gang kerte bhi nazar aaty hain... To chonke ap ko in fallacies ka ilm ha phir bhi ap in ka sahara lety ho to ap to manafqat k buhat aala derjay per faiz hain 👈👏👏
It took me a very very long time to understand evolution, but I wanted the truth no matter what it turned out to be , after tons of research on evolution I found out it’s over 500% percent true, because soo many independent fields of biological sciences especially Genetics, Paleontology, Archiology, Geology, Embryology, Anthropolgy, Sociology, Psycology. . . . . sciences prove it to be true. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .,,,,
I always want to pull my hair and bang my head against a wall when listening to a theist……. But then I clearly remember before I was an atheist I thought similarly, constant childhood indoctrination is a b1tch and very difficult to get over. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist. ,,, ,
Assalam Qaiser bhai.Maine aapki videos YOUR ISM VS ISLAM check ki so as to forward it to my friendsbut apki yeh videos show nahi karrahi hain aapke channel pe check karne ke baad bhi. Even yeh video bhi Randomly show hua hai.Thoda dekhein bhai aap is pe tawajju dein.
A scholar in any religion is the same as a scholar in Zues or Odin/Thor or any other mythology. Choosing to major in theology or becoming a scholar in religion is like marrying your kidnapper, because you are becoming an expert in myths you were brainwashed in as an innocent child. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist, , , ,
It’s non-intuitive to understand that all this complexity is just natural and no intervention of any being is required, it’s much much simpler and easier for humans to believe that some being did it magically, especially when we are indoctrinated to believe from a very early age by your parents, teachers, leaders, elders practically everyone. And if we don’t conform to your parents religions then you can be shunned, disowned and possibly harmed. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist, ,, ,
Mind is the nonphysical thing whereas brain 🧠 is a physical thing. Brain 🧠 can be seen while Mind can't be seen. Mind is the memory and sence whereas brain 🧠 is an integral organ of our body. Mind means person’s conscience, understanding and thought process while brain 🧠 coordinates, movements, feelings, and different functions of the body.
@@rahisukoon As-salaamu alaikum. Have you listened to the following speakers:- Raja Zia ul Haq Mugheerah Luqman Muhammad Ali Tuaha ibn Jaleel Wajih Uddin Abu Saad Shujauddin Sheikh Qaiser Ahmed Raja Mufti Yasir Nadeem Wajidi Sam Stallone Amir Haq Mufti Shamail Nadwi Azimur Rahman Usmani Abuzar Responds Daniel Haqiqatjou
I don't agree with hating the biggest victims of Islam the 'Muslims', and Islamic dogma is not any worse then the Christian dogma, the big difference is that Christians reformed their original dogma and no longer closely follow their original scriptures. both religions selectively only preach scriptures which is accepted by modern standards and no longer preach the crazy and horrific scriptures and versus. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .,,,,
Islam koi bhikari nahi k kashkol ley k logo ki mintein kray k plz mujhay qabool kro na hi koi dictator hey zabardasti logo par khud ko impose kray. Ye tu aik hujat hey aik noor hey aik khzana hey logo ko khud iski traf bhagna chahiay jaisay wo wealth keechay bhagtay hein ta k wo flah paen. Khuda k rules and limits of life fixed hein jo koi unhein cross kray ga khud tbah hoga khuda tu beneyaz hey usay koi farq nahi parta koi manay ya na manay
ماشاءاللہ۔۔۔۔لبرل ازم کہتے ھونگے کہ یہ پڑھے لکھے کیوں ہمارے راستے روک رھے ھیں، حالانکہ وتعز من تشاء وتزل من تشاء
Nice
❤
I love you brother Ali
Bhai aisy hi kaam krty rahen . jazak Allah Khair
Bohot shukria qaiser bhai bohot kuch seekhne ko mila
zabardastt mashaAllah
Bilkul sahi ✅ bohot jada hi ganda media wale log hai haram ka pesa milta hai to jhut hi bolenge na
Love love love. This is what you call a quality content. 2 very intellectual people mashallah, one can learn college credit worth of material from this stream.
Assalamu a'laikum all. Aap dono ko sath me dekh kar bahot achha laga.
Masha Allah 2 legends in 1 stream
Alhamdulillah I am watching you
Mashallah. Very practical discussion. Hope to see more discussion like this one.
MashaAllah
علی بھائی کو میں زیادہ سنتا ہوں کیونکہ ان کا انداز بیان خوبصورت ترین ہے۔بہرحال قیصر احمد راجہ صاحب جب لبریز سے ٹکراتے تو لگ سمجھ جاتی ہے لبریز کو اللہ تعالیٰ آ پ دونوں کو سلامت رکھے آمین
جزاکم اللہ احسن الجزاء
jazakallah guys ...for exposing all of them ...may Allah bless n protect the gems like u guys ... dheroo duaen ap logo k lye
ماشاءاللہ سر ❤
Both r my favorite ❤️
Amazing 😍🥰
Islam is my Pride.
Needs more such episodes........... SubhanAllah very informative
Amazing podcast
Wallah bhot important discussion....!!!
Allhumma khairr...
Wowww
What a treat to see u both
Living Lagends ♥️
माशाअल्लाह ज़बर्दस्त गुफ़्तुगू
JazakAllah
جزاک اللّهُ خیرً کثیرا بھائ
lots of love n prayers for both of you 🌷
Mashaallah 🌹 qaisar bhai
Masha Allah masha Allah ❤
Both are very kind, humble & intellecutal. Inspirational💖
You are a gem 💎💎💎
MashaAllah,both of you are doing great job
Mashallah informative stream ♥👌
ماشاءالله
माशा अल्लाह
MashaAllah,
Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
Allah Pak istaqamat ata farmae Aameen
MashAllah amazing conversation. Wonderful personalities. May Allah keep u steadfast in this noble cause.
Masha Allah
Assalamoalaikum. Qaisar sahib and Ali bhai. Very informative. Please do a stream with Tuaha ibn jaleel, Nomqn ali khan, Adnan Rahseed, and most importantly a gathering wIth Uthman ibn farooq in english. Uthman sahib has more speaking power and explanation capabilities in english than urdu. May Allah accept all your efforts.
Watched all of it
Allah kabool kry ap sb ki kawisho ko Ameen ar ap sb ki hifazat kry
Dilli khuahish thi k ap log ko aik sath dekhu jo aj puri hogai,,,,ap sb agar aik ho k kam kry to yakenan bht bara inkalab a sakta ha Allah k hukm sy
Mashallah
Me ne saari fallacies examples ke saath likh lee hain. Or future me inhe revise karta rhu ga. Me is awareness pr Emaan Union or Youth club Ka shukr ghuzaar hu. Allah apko asi mazeed videos banany ki taufeek de
Great
all fallacy :
1) what about "ism"
2) missing the point
3) red herring fallacy
4) straw maan fallacy
5) genetic fallacy
6) band wagon
7) circular reasoning
8) appeal to pity,
9) poisoning the well fallacy
learn about it , and u will be able to understand when someone using this in any discussion
I think this vedio should see all muslims to protect themselves with liberals/athiset and will be podcast in all educational Inshtiuations to aware students
Qisar sahab Asalamu alaikum
Mashallah, i was finding Guys like you who can counter Desi Librals and Egoistic Atheists
masha Allah
jazak Allah khair
Sharia law should be imposed in Pakistan
Bahot shukriya Qaisar sir, aap ko guzarish krne wala tha Mohammad Ali bhai ko stream me lane k liye ..
Aage inko Live stream me bhi laiye
This will be very interesting to see how Quran was trying to respond intellectually in the Meccan environment (as you guys quoted few examples). This will be a helpful study.
1. What about ism?/Missing the point. ( Never distract, be honest )
2. Red hearing fallacy. ( Be Straight and forward )
3. Strawman fallacy. ( don't manipulate real things )
4. Ad Hominem.
5. Genetic Fallacy.
6. Band beggar fallacy/Ad populism. ( Majority is not authority)( true is true )
7. Circular reasoning fallacy.
8. Appeal to Pity. ( Don't fall into emotions)( be rational )( wrong is wrong)
9. Poison in the Well.
JazakAllahu Khair
Fallacies which have been discussed in this session.
Whataboutism/Missing the point
Red herring fallacy
Straw man fallacy
Ad Hominem fallacy
Genetic fallacy
bandwagon fallacy/Ad populum
Appeal to pity
Poisoning the well
consensus implies politics. amazing argument
ماشاءاللہ ، دونوں کو ایک جگہ دیکھ کر بھت خوشی ہوئی ہے
Asslam o alaikum Qaiser Ahmad raja bhai Ma sha ALLAH buhatt achy aur ik request h k Individualism pr ik detailed video bnayn plzzzz
Many people who convert to Islam or revert back to Christianity is because religious organizations provide a sense of community, comradely, fellowship and a sense of belonging. These powerful emotional needs are fulfilled, even if religions are not historically and scientifically accurate or just myths. "ignorance is a bliss" Matrix-quote. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .,,, ,
When people talk about reconciling science and religion, that is only an issue with people who have preconceived ideas, but scientists cannot/should-not have preconceived ideas they must believe the evidence. All scientific models must conform to NATURE or REALITY, If there is any tiny evidence for some unnatural forces then they must include that in their papers/thesis and account for it. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist , , , ,
I believe that we should listen to both side's arguments and then make our own judgement. While listening to this video I found one thing quite ironic. That is, all the logical fallacies brother Qaiser named in this video, he himself commits these fallacies in his own videos. I have watched some of his response videos in which he was responding to Dr Taimur and Dr Pervez. He starts of by, not actually responding to their arguments, but attacking their character. Or he often distort their arguments by saying "Yaani aap ye kehna chah rahy hn". The reality is that all these logical fallacies are much more prevalent in your videos. I mostly find rhetoric arguments in your videos while people like Dr Taimur and Dr Pervez simply put forward their views.
Muhammad bin Qasim/Tipu Sultan of todays era.
Wah Raja sahib ap ne her rang ki fallacies ka ziker kiya is video mai or inhi sabhi fallacies ka istemaal ap bazat e khud or apki fraud union gang kerte bhi nazar aaty hain... To chonke ap ko in fallacies ka ilm ha phir bhi ap in ka sahara lety ho to ap to manafqat k buhat aala derjay per faiz hain 👈👏👏
It took me a very very long time to understand evolution, but I wanted the truth no matter what it turned out to be , after tons of research on evolution I found out it’s over 500% percent true, because soo many independent fields of biological sciences especially Genetics, Paleontology, Archiology, Geology, Embryology, Anthropolgy, Sociology, Psycology. . . . . sciences prove it to be true. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .,,,,
from where you read about evolution
I think you have read about it from Wikipedia or from WhatsApp university
Qiaser Ahmad raja plz i want to talk with you I'm Muslim
Sure brother, shoot me an email on qaiserahmedraja@gmail.com
Addicted to your podcasts... 😕
Yah live kab aaye the hamen pata nahin chal Paya aj
I always want to pull my hair and bang my head against a wall when listening to a theist……. But then I clearly remember before I was an atheist I thought similarly, constant childhood indoctrination is a b1tch and very difficult to get over. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist. ,,, ,
Assalam Qaiser bhai.Maine aapki videos YOUR ISM VS ISLAM check ki so as to forward it to my friendsbut apki yeh videos show nahi karrahi hain aapke channel pe check karne ke baad bhi.
Even yeh video bhi Randomly show hua hai.Thoda dekhein bhai aap is pe tawajju dein.
A scholar in any religion is the same as a scholar in Zues or Odin/Thor or any other mythology. Choosing to major in theology or becoming a scholar in religion is like marrying your kidnapper, because you are becoming an expert in myths you were brainwashed in as an innocent child. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist, , , ,
السلام علیکم!
سر اس سٹریم میں جتنی قسم کی فیلیسیز کی وضاحت کی گئی ہے، براہ کرم ان سب کے نام بھی شیئر کر دیں (ڈسکرپشن یا کمنٹ میں).
It’s non-intuitive to understand that all this complexity is just natural and no intervention of any being is required, it’s much much simpler and easier for humans to believe that some being did it magically, especially when we are indoctrinated to believe from a very early age by your parents, teachers, leaders, elders practically everyone. And if we don’t conform to your parents religions then you can be shunned, disowned and possibly harmed. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist, ,, ,
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A.O.A , Sir Mera ek swal hy .Main pehly bhi kar chuka hon.plz. mind aur brain me kya farq hy? ya MIND kya hy?
Sahil Adeem sahab ko sunin, jawab miljaiga
Read Plato, Descartes, Kant
@@rahisukoon qaiser bhai ke saath me jo baat chit hui hai wo dekhl
Mind is the nonphysical thing whereas brain 🧠 is a physical thing. Brain 🧠 can be seen while Mind can't be seen. Mind is the memory and sence whereas brain 🧠 is an integral organ of our body. Mind means person’s conscience, understanding and thought process while brain 🧠 coordinates, movements, feelings, and different functions of the body.
@@rahisukoon As-salaamu alaikum. Have you listened to the following speakers:-
Raja Zia ul Haq
Mugheerah Luqman
Muhammad Ali
Tuaha ibn Jaleel
Wajih Uddin
Abu Saad
Shujauddin Sheikh
Qaiser Ahmed Raja
Mufti Yasir Nadeem Wajidi
Sam Stallone
Amir Haq
Mufti Shamail Nadwi
Azimur Rahman Usmani
Abuzar Responds
Daniel Haqiqatjou
I watched many of Kaisers videos and he is guilty of most of these fallacies
Kesar Sahab jo bhi Bura Aane wali nasl Leti Hai To vah aur galat Soch se Leti Hai
I don't agree with hating the biggest victims of Islam the 'Muslims', and Islamic dogma is not any worse then the Christian dogma, the big difference is that Christians reformed their original dogma and no longer closely follow their original scriptures. both religions selectively only preach scriptures which is accepted by modern standards and no longer preach the crazy and horrific scriptures and versus. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .,,,,
Not a single logical argument
Islam koi bhikari nahi k kashkol ley k logo ki mintein kray k plz mujhay qabool kro na hi koi dictator hey zabardasti logo par khud ko impose kray. Ye tu aik hujat hey aik noor hey aik khzana hey logo ko khud iski traf bhagna chahiay jaisay wo wealth keechay bhagtay hein ta k wo flah paen. Khuda k rules and limits of life fixed hein jo koi unhein cross kray ga khud tbah hoga khuda tu beneyaz hey usay koi farq nahi parta koi manay ya na manay
LoL, how is talking about logical fallacies.
Muhammad Ali 😂
Librandos apni hazri lagae
Ijma e ummat per andha yakeen kerne walay scientific consensus per tahufazaat dekha rahe hai 🤣🤣🤣
Maaro mujhay maaro
g sir zaroor apne ap ko marein👍
Total bullshit
On.men.aarmi.qiasai.raja.dhai
MashaAllah