Packing For A Backcountry Discovery Route Trip On My Light Adventure CRF450L
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- This is what I took along on the IDBDR in 2020 on my light ADV bike. From camping and cooking to tents and tarps, and everything in between. And it all fit on my Honda CRF450L in Mosko Moto's Reckless 80 Revolver system.
Here's my AZBDR video - • CRF450L Outfitted For ...
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What I wear:
Aria XD-4 Helmet - bit.ly/36yTx7J
Kriega Trail 18 Backpack - bit.ly/36jh0t9
Oakley Airbrake Goggles - bit.ly/3n8PZiZ
Klim Aggressor Cool -1.0 LS Shirt - bit.ly/35bCCIE
Klim Tactical Pants - bit.ly/3paZikn
Forcefield EX-K Hardness Adventure Protector - bit.ly/2U7Zn9Y
Mosko Moto Basilisk Jacket - bit.ly/3pdYTO8
Arc'Teryx Atom SV Jacket -
Mosko Moto Woodsman Enduro Pants - bit.ly/3kfylIo
AlpineStars SX-1 Knee Guards - bit.ly/3pbq9g7
SIDI Crossfire TA3 Boots - bit.ly/3lfBVDV
Darn Tough Over-the-Calf Padded Cushion Ski Sock - bit.ly/38ypqzw
Jersey
Gloves
On the 911 Bike:
Adventure Spec Nav Tower - bit.ly/2Ijvfq1
12oCLock Labs Advanced Mini Gauge - bit.ly/3pf0z9V
AXP Extreme Skid Plate - bit.ly/32tu5ir
Bajaworx KTM Windscreen - www.bajaworx.com/
Motoz Hybrid Xtreme Tires - bit.ly/3kfUeaF
Rekluse Radius CX Clutch - bit.ly/35aKx9g
OEM Front Sprocket - bit.ly/2U9h2hJ
SuperSprox 53T Stealth Rear Sprocket - bit.ly/3eEWK9l
D.I.D. ERVT 520 Chain - bit.ly/3pkbjUP
Yoshimura RS4 Exhaust - bit.ly/3eG6IqV
Tokyo Mods Vortex ECU - bit.ly/3ndIdVf
San Diego Power House Thermostat Delete - bit.ly/3lfu09F
Skaggs Rack - bit.ly/35epEdc
Flatlands Racing Tail Tidy - bit.ly/2U6S9Dp
Scots Steering Damper - bit.ly/38ncsEV
Nomad 20L Tank - bit.ly/2JSsxZ1
Twin Air Filter - bit.ly/3kePoKA
Seat Concepts Comfort XL Low - bit.ly/2U9fjcb
Zeta Levers, Chain Guide, Heel Plate,
Front Sprocket Cover, Bash Guards,
Revolver Shift Lever - bit.ly/36nvp7E
Stegz Pegz - bit.ly/3kkTotq
Pivot Pegz - bit.ly/35dx3cT
Race Tech 6.0 Shock Spring - bit.ly/3pf6M5G
Baja Designs Squadron Pro/S2 Headlight Kit - bit.ly/3kig90S
Double Take Mirrors - bit.ly/3p9yAIJ
Acerbis CRF450RX Frame Guards - bit.ly/3eERa6V
Pro Taper Steering Damper Low Bars and Pillow Grips - bit.ly/3nccCDj
Daemon Grip Heaters - bit.ly/2IktFEj
G2 Ergonomics Throttle Tamer - bit.ly/3lgMoPj
Mosko Moto Reckless 80 and Hood 5 Tank Bag - moskomoto.com/
DeCal Works Graphics
Acerbis Front Fender
etc...
#crf450l #crf450lrally #IDBDR #loadout
I got a CRF250L and I like it when you said " I ride Honda and I carry tools for other people."
All true
How do you like your 250l?
@@kyleperry3748 i got a 16 250l. Absolutely love it. Great bike. Dont let the negative reviews turn you away. Alot of that comes from user error.
@@WNCOutdoors86 thanks man!
Got a drz400 I do the same lol.
“Everything on a bike will vibrate and cut through everything”. Words to live by!
Thanks Lost Again.
“But I ride a Honda so...” 🤣🤣🤣 excelente
😁
@@JohnTYoung I went and saw the RL today, I want to trade it for my current bike but I’m always riding with my wife. So maybe that’s not an option for us right now 😪
@@abones7243 definitely not a two-up type bike
As soon as he said that I went for the comments and sure enough, first comment. lmao good stuff.
Came down to write the same thing. 🤣🤣🤣
Best vid on Tube about keeping it light and real. My kit is 95% the same. Tiger 900 Rally Pro.
Thanks Mark!
You are living my dream. Keep on riding.
Thank you Max. I will.
It was amazing how much stuff you pulled out of that small space 😮
Practice!
I sprayed my Reckless 80 bags and paniers with silicone spray and it made it quite a bit easier to insert and remove the bags.
That's a great idea!
The Therm-a-rest neo-air Micro Pump is a great addition to a lightweight kit.
Oh! That looks cool. Thanks for sharing
I love hearing about people riding BDR's on smaller bikes! Awesome gear list and I love the pants lol
Thanks!!’
Having done a few BDR myself on a WR250R, I can tell you're the real deal. Excellent video.
OMG thank you.
Nice! I want to do the IBDR on my TW200
Absolutely in love with that motorcycle
Me too!
Thank you for the video, John. Very helpful to see what you carry and how you carry it. There was a lot more than I expected from the initial appearance.
I wish Honda made an ADV version of the 450 with longer service intervals, much larger fuel tank, large rear rack and tubeless tires.
You’re welcome! I think there are a lot of us who wish that as well.
Bring back the XR400 with electric start and bigger tank?
@@the_katman2181 - A factory ADV version of the CRF450RL would be good. Large rear rack. Large fuel tank. Engine crash bars. USB ports. Maybe factory heated grips. The $10K price seems a bit much considering it's not exactly a loaded bike. What's there is solid but for $10K I'd expect tubeless spoke wheels, etc. And like all Honda dual sport bikes, the color options: red. Most manufacturers think of ADV bikes as big street bikes with a few extra inches of suspension travel and ground clearance. I'm thinking dual sport with a bit more creature comfort, range and luggage carrying capability.
@@Liberty4Ever Would you want tubeless wheels going off-road all the time though? Dink your rim once and you are screwed out there alone. Sure its inconvenient to change tires, and plugging a leak isn't as easy/fast, but at least with a tubed tire you can throw in a new tube and ride on if you dink the rim.
I feel tubeless is great for bikes that only occasionally do off-road, or dont explore very far from the inhabited world, but if you truly go somewhere else alone the safety net of tubed probably outweighs the disadvantages.
@@tHaH4x0r - I'd completely agree with that assessment. It's much easier to repair a tread puncture with tubeless tires. Plug it and reinflate. For sidewall damage, rim damage or a slash in the tread, a tube patch kit or spare tube and possibly some duct tape, cable ties or paracord lashing provide more trail side repair options. A friend told me almost 40 years ago that he didn't believe there were any such thing as tubeless tires, and he was referring to cars. We can take a tip from Marc and pack tubes for our tubeless tires for the best of both worlds. For the typical minor tread puncture, plug it and reinflate. For more severe damage where the plug won't do, yank out the valve stem and insert a tube.
I bought my G310GS for my 60th birthday. My days of hard off road riding are behind me. My bike has alloy rims and tubeless tires that nobody would consider for heavy duty off road use. I've used the bike on more serious off road than I anticipated when I thought the Little Shepherd Trail was a dilapidated road through the woods and most of it was comparable to a heavily erosion rutted rock strewn logging trail with some small downed trees. The baby GS did fine but I took it easy... for MY sake. I should have had a dual sport with spoke steel rims for that.
Well thought out! Backpacking on a smaller bike.
Right on
John, I came here a couple of years ago for your helo mountainside rescue video. I stayed for the excellent adventure riding videos plus the informative travel prep videos like this one. I probably won't ever do the type of solo riding you do. However, watching has given me many ideas for equipment and packing for our two-up touring on our Super Tenere. Thank you for all the great work you do.
Thanks Mark G! So you're an Old Timer here. LOL. I'm glad I could help. You two have fun.
@@JohnTYoung Old in more ways than one...been riding motos for 60 years, including street, MX, enduro, trials, and trail riding.
@@markg7834 Beware of old men in a game where men die young....
Great no bs explanation of what is practical
Tarp idea and chain maintenance are ideal!
Ever thought about getting one of those little air pumps for inflating your mattress?
Thank you
Thank you! I had one of those little pumps, I lost it. I got another one, I broke it.
Another great video, just gotta trade that red machine in for an orange one! Yup Mosko stuff is the best, worth every penny.
I don't like walking enough to ride Orange. LOL. Good exercise tho. But yes, Mosko MOtos makes amazing stuff.
That's a great show and tell!
Thanks!
This was very helpful- I’m leaving for a seven day trip next week. Norwegian TET.
That sounds amazing! Take lots of picture for us.
@@JohnTYoung I will. I really want to make youtube videos, but having tried that in the past, I’m afraid it takes away from the riding experience. I think making videos like this one when you’ve set up camp and can show the scenery or gear is fine, but while I ride I’m only looking for good shots, and I get taken out of every moment.
@@JohannesDalenMC yup, that’s the price.
@@JohnTYoung I’ve been thinking about it for months. Today I uploaded my first ‘serious’ video to my channel. I’ve decided to give it a try, I like to share stuff, but I’ve also decided that it has to be easy to shoot, upload and no time spent editing. This way it won’t take away the focus from riding. The filming will be off the bike.
Thanks for the inspiration, your channel is awesome.
@@JohannesDalenMC Yes! I'm in.
As always thanks John!
You are welcome!
Great vid John, its amazing what you can carry on a bike and it helps if you can remember where everything is , thankyou Sir, great adventure !
It's all fairly lightweight gear, and after packing and unpacking everything all summer I kind of got a system down. Thanks for watching.
A little late to the party, but... Excellent packlist, looks a lot lot like mine actually.
You said you were looking for tips: Here's mine - when the time comes to replace your sleeping pad, take a look at the Exped Downmats, they're really excellent AND as the surprise bonus, if you get their "schnozzle" bags, you can inflate it super quick, and then use the bag as your pillow. Great system.
I will for sure check it out... if this thing ever pops that is.
This guy is as tough and durable as anything😂
Thanks?
Love your set up. One suggestion would be to perhaps keep the Inreach in a more accessible place as you may not have the energy to get to it if you have a big one. Cheers
LOL. Ya, that's a good suggestion.
Definitely! Connect that sucker via carabiner to a shoulder strap and make sure anyone you're riding with knows where that sos button is.
Especially riding solo. Access if injured or trapped under bike could be critical. That assumes that satellite signal would be good? (Trees, steep ravines?)
I don’t know if you’ve tried hammocks much, but i find them far more comfortable than a tent and sleeping pad (once you’ve got your ridgeline length dialed in).
And, I also know that some people PREFER tents.
AND, I know that sometimes you can’t find two trees!
But YES! I side sleep in my hammock.
So, I’m just sayin’ this out loud; I’m not preaching.
I have a nice large hammock with bug net - very comfortable. I have a nice 3.5m tarp - very quick to set up.
But, for when there are no trees, I can use two fiberglass flexible tent poles to hold up the tarp like a tent, and an old ‘tent footprint’ with a mosquito net attached to it (making a bathtub floor and bug-proof tent).
Yeah. It takes a couple of liters of extra space. No I don’t always carry it (I can actually pitch a hammock on the ground if needs be... but if I have to be on the ground, I prefer a tent-sized area).
I don’t live in a cold area, so I haven’t tried this is cold weather.
So, for those of you who prefer hammocks, but are likely to find yourself without trees, consider it.
Thanks Johnathan. I have considered a hammock a time or two, I've just never pulled the trigger. But everyone else out there it may make a lot of sense.
Thx 4 sharing ur experience Sir!
My pleasure
You have more stuff in that bike than what I have in my garage, good rides!
Thanks?
@@JohnTYoung of course hahaha! Thanks for all the very helpful tips and reviews.
Greetings from Baja!
@@TRADint you're very welcome!
Awesome video! Honda’s always the way to go! You would definitely love it riding the gnarly Andes down here in Peru 🇵🇪. Best vibes 🙌🏻
You are correct Harry, I would love it! I'll have to figure out a way to get there soon.
Saved! I’ll use this for my next solo BDR. I used the GCAG enduro hardcore setup on the CABDR last year on my 350 excf and it did a great job keeping everything tight to the bike but was a hassle packing up. MM is pricey but seems to be a more convenient setup. Everything else was similar to your setup. I love your oil solution, could’ve used that last trip. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching Ryan. I'm a big fan of Mosko Moto, obviously.
Great walk thru of your packing, very detailed. Similar to what and how i pack. Keep up the good work! /New subscriber.
Thank you!
Thanks John. Great info, as usual.
You're welcome Craig. Hit me up if you have any specific questions.
Great video and information...Thank You
Glad it was helpful!
Love seeing what and how others pack! Great video!
Thanks!
Very interesting, thanks.
Thank you David.
I use Brown Fast Food Restaurant Napkins as TP Think McDonalds
I know you bury, but the brown is my favorite
Free TP! Great idea.
You are living life my friend!! From one mosko fan to another!! 🤘
Get out there and get some Jeff!
I do as often as I can. Work just always seems to get in the way 😂
@@jeffknobby2700 copy that.
It's a hard decision to make on bike HP. I like a 250, no rad and 6 speed for nibble-ness yet those times you might have to get off US routes/dirt and us an interstate you do not wanna push them that long or for any long period of time. I do ride mostly on Forest lands and keep speed down. I do go very off trail to camp as remotely as possible, stealth if you will. But, Long trips the XR650L has it's place...450's , stuff with rad's just are not suitable. I wouldn't be in but 15 ft and till a scrub oak branch would have poked a hole in the rad... Great vid and thank you for taking the time to show your pac......rock on...
IN 22,000 miles riding crashing chucking this puppy off the road I have yet to poke a hole in it. I need to try harder. LOL. Thanks for the comments!
Very good 👍 I like your setup,
Thanks!
Another awesome video!
You're the best!
i carry a 19 tube. fits both 18 and 21 .
That’s a great idea. Maybe my buddy with a KLR has an extra laying around...
Can i ask you to do a short video on checking your valve clearances. I have a crf450l also love your videos man. Keep it up bud.
ua-cam.com/video/kg_k53Ah864/v-deo.html done
@@JohnTYoung thank you
Thats just so simple compared to my work i normaly work in microns. But i know feeler guages inside out. Its quite apparent between metric and imperial. Great stuff. Hondas last a life time. I think i have been worrying over nothing.
Thank you :)
You're welcome!
always the most informative videos!!.. and riding a Honda definitely has its advantages lol
Your tools stay shiny!
Very impressive!
Thanks.
I would suggest you buy a air mattress rechargeable pump it's worth it's weight in gold, mine will pump my XL sleeping pad/pillow up for weeks without recharging........... Rear tires get flat about 10 to 1 more than fronts, a 21" tube is hit or miss on how long it will last in the rear...... Most auto parts store will allow you to drop oil and most will loan you tools and a drain pan to do the work, plus sell you oil...I have the same air pump the coating on the wires dry rotted after several years watch for that it will short out, I replaced mine with a coiled wire like the old time phone cords were it works well...
I had one. I smashed it somehow. :(
Great video.
Only suggestion I have is to use the tire pump for your mattress, unless almost blacking out helps you sleep better:) Oh, any maybe a life straw
You just wanna ruin all my fun.
@@JohnTYoung That was my only negative thing in this video. Not because of the passing out part but using your breath traps moisture inside the mattress causing mold and bacteria to grow. Most good camping mattresses have inflation bags nowadays or tiny little rechargable air pumps.
@@dbltap7615 true. Unless you gargle with whiskey first. Pro tip. 🤣
Perfect video
Wow. Thanks!
Hey John,
Thanks for all your videos. They are crucial! I am carrying my bike to Moab at the beginning of April. Unfortunately I will only be there for 5 or so days. I cant wait til i get to the point where I can spend a few weeks doing this.
Nice! You're going to love Moab. Don't discount the National Parks. They're "National" for a reason.
@@JohnTYoung yea! i am pretty unaware of what kind of trails are out there. watching your videos helps me to pick out the states I should be trying to visit. I have been using blogs to find the specific trails. because I cant take off long periods from work, I can only do short trips. and as a result, I like technical and challenging trails the most. any suggestions for moab? so far Kane Creek is at the top of my list
side note: i have noticed you are yet to replace the front disc guard. any specific reason? mine took a big hit and bent just enough to hear a squeak. I added a metal guard after that. thanks again for the videos and reply!
@@GordonTremeshko Kane Creek and Lockhart Basin are must rides. The white rim trail should be on your list too. Some of those are LOOOONG days, so bring lunch and an extra couple of gallons of gas. Arches National Park is mostly paved but needs to be on your list as well. South of there follow the UTBDR from Blanding to Mexican Hat for some amazing views of Bear's Ears and Valley Of The Gods.
@@JohnTYoung thanks for the advice! i am going to upgrade the stock tank. still deciding on the 3 or 5 gallon/liter (cant remember). its cool cause ive already watched all three of your gas tank videos! they really help in making the decision!
I would think completing one BDR makes you an expert.
Nah. The first long trip I did was a shit show.
@@JohnTYoung But I'm guessing you learned from your mistakes.
@@southerndeth Yes. It took me a few tries to nail my system and equipment down but I'm pretty happy with it now.
@@JohnTYoung Thanks for the great info. I'm ordering the Woodsman pants today.
9:04 Honda❤
Thanks for watching
CHAIR!
The world is my chair. My bathroom as well, so I have to be careful where I sit.
Awesome video!🙏
Thanks!
Great video... for the people looking for a down sleeping bag, know that the geese and other birds are being plucked every 6 weeks or so.... alive, a life of torture.....
Good point, , make sure your manufacturer is ethically sourcing their down.
This is a super helpful video. Hopefully I'll be able to put it to use this coming year. Thanks for putting it out for us!
Thanks Chuck! I hope you can put it to use too. Where are you thinking of riding?
The western BDR's to start. That will keep me busy for awhile I imagine. I feel lucky to live were I do.
Good video but I would highly recommend a SNAKE BITE KIT
Never been bit by a snake.
Love how you can just lift the back of the bike with a little effort and the whole tire comes up a few inches . Can't do that with my Tenere , can barely scootch it with both arms . Always like seeing what you guys bring on your motorcycle adventures , saves some time and $ .
Have you ever heard of Ride On tire balancer puncture sealant ? Rocky Mountain ATV/MC has it and it's got a bunch of great reviews . Trying to get some real world info on that stuff . Anyway thanks for your video !
I have some other puncture sealant I was going to try, but between keeping my psi above 10 and Uber heavy Bridgestone inner tubes I don’t get flats. Light is right. Unless it’s a windy day one the Highway. 😬
@@JohnTYoung
I agree about weight . I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and I remember the first time I went solo mountain bike/backpacking/fishing I learned that ounces count let alone pounds . I went about 5 miles in from the Henry Coe state park main entrance to Skeels Meadow . That was in '98 and I wanted to fish the head waters of the middle fork Coyote Creek . Those trout laughed at everything I tried and there were some real nice low water wild trout in there . Went back again later and used natural helgramites and that did the trick . Too bad they don't allow motorcycles in there but if I can join the hunting club then I get a key heh heh .
Well the stuff I was talking about Ride On it's different than Slime . It apparently doesn't get messy and I think it can be reused from tire to tire but as long as it doesn't make my wheels and bike shudder then I think it couldn't hurt . I need to get up to speed with the in and outs of maintaining my motorcycle and learning offroad basics . Been a while since I was riding my mountain bike and changing an inner tube on a motorcycle is a little more involved .
Hey, John. Great video again! Can you provide more info on the battery pack/charger with jumper clips on them? It looks compact, and a good addition I'd like to add to my WR250r Adv bike/setup. Thank you. Safe travels!
Thanks! It's an Antigravity Micro XP-10 Jump Starter like this one www.jbtools.com/antigravity-batteries-xp-10-micro-start-multi-function-jump-starter-power-supply-kit/?gclid=CjwKCAiAhbeCBhBcEiwAkv2cY6Mfd1nEIx3aEs2T2hmT7D6aGLhOvIybcD00ZeWux1Q5ne1ZwDdlNBoC-N0QAvD_BwE
“I ride HONDA and carry tools for other bikes” 😀😀😀 I know exactly what are you talking about 😁😁😁👍 Nice video. I did MABDR solo with ZERO off-road experience. It was awesome.
Next comes the NEBDR! Thanks for watching Moto.
@@JohnTYoung Yep, this summer I will NEBDR.
@@JohnTYoung I went for NEBDR and tried to back up kind of a similar to you. My biggest challenge was my sleeping bag. It is too big for MM bags. What is you sleeping bag. Actually this is the only item in your bags that you did not mention as a brand 😁
@@MotoPavilion That depends on how cold it's going to be, but 99% of the time now I use a Bag Agnes Camp Robin. It's a half sleeping bag. More like a blanket that zips to your sleeping pad really.
Hi Joh, your videos are great. Appreciate the time you take to do it all . When you did the 3 south to north bdr’s, how did you get the bike to Bisbee? Hard to imagine you rode all the way south from CO? Did you.....Leave a truck and ride back south to get it after,? ride the whole way from CO, leave the bike and return for the next adventure/bdr,? or do it all on the bike?
I trucked the bike to Paige in north AZ. Then I rode the bike south to Bisbee and back along the AZBDR to my truck. Thanks for the questions!
Amazing and informative video as always! Would love to see a video of packing everything up while its raining! Havent done it myself, but always wondered. Since I guess everything will get wet? TIA and happy trails !
I pull most of my gear inside the tent with me or what's left on the bike is in its waterproof bag. I never pull it out as I did in the video. It's a little tricky but I can get packed up and on the road without getting totally soaked. Thanks so much for watching!
Could you not use simple CO2 cartridges with a valve adapter on a motorbike?
It's commonly used, lightweight and small, emergency inflation for mountain bikes. But we use presta valves. The air volume couldn't be that much more than a 2.5" by 29" bike tire at 25psi. You might need several cartridges but they are tiny.
I just thread the adapter on the valve, unscrew to release the gas and bam, tire is filled in seconds.
Just an idea seeing how big and heavy that pump looked, and you asked for suggestions so there's mine.
Thanks! I have carried CO2s in the past and they were OK for emergencies, but I regularly air up and down if I'll be on a road section or dirt section long enough. So I'd use lots of those little things.
Well,,, then use the pump for the matras instead of almost passing out blowing it up😂😂😂
You have me confused with someone with common sense… 🫢
@@JohnTYoung 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
Alright John, you covered all the nice to haves. What about the two must haves, firearms and alcohol??
G20 in a Hill People Gear chest pack and Whisky in a platypus bag!
Errrrrr unless you're planning on hunting for your dinner, not sure what you'd need a gun for. Now alcohol, I'm all for, but drinking alone is sad and a little creepy so........
I've ridden from the Arctic to the Sahara on various rides and have needed a firearm as much as a fish needs a bicycle. Nice answer John. Reassuring that not all Americans are gun nuts. For the weight and bulk of a pistol and rounds, I can think of many more things I'd like to carry. In Europe we get black bears, wolves and wild boar. We don't need pistols and if Americans weren't so weirdly gun obsessed, you wouldn't need them in most parts of the US. Grizzly bear country excepted.
Lol... This is just my opinion: I'm an ultralight backpacker who uses the same gear to moto-camp. I'd be so overwhelmed with this much gear and specific bags. Way too many bags for me but I guess that's required when you start doing hardcore BDR / adventure stuff.
Well, if I didn't record anything that would get rid of two bags. If I didn't take my DSLR there goes another bag. No oil change or chain maintenance on the trail - one less bag. Tools... bye-bye bag. And now I'm basically down to my camping gear that I too use for camping and climbing.
@@JohnTYoung Jeeze yeah those are a lot of considerations. I take it back :)
Is the 15-hour oil change interval a handicap on this bike? I want to eventually do BDR and the like, but don't want to be shackled to a strict oil schedule.
I do mine at about 1000 miles or so, but I’ve gone longer.
Lot of truth in your Honda statement .. I’ve owned a few I know ..
Me too, all trouble free, despite my best efforts. LOL>
@@JohnTYoung i currently ride a tiger 800 bought it new and 42k miles later not a single issue . Im just getting tired of the weight .. ive been looking for a capable lighter alternative..
Mr. Young, great video as always! I really enjoy all your videos. I wish I had the time to post some of my own. You may want to think about your payload though. I ordered some warp 9 rims help out with the payload on my 450RL. I'm 5'11" 205 lbs and loaded with gear, I am really pushing the payload limits. I researched finding a heavy duty axle, but I have no luck. Have you found any axle upgrades for the 450? Cheers!
In 16000 miles of hauling 70 lbs of gear and my 180 lbs carcass I have never had a problem with my axle or wheel bearings. I did add a heavier shock spring to hold it all up. So far so good. Thanks for watching!
Lmao that god damn tarp
Ya. We had words.
Nice👍🏻
Thank you!
Me: I don't dumpster dive.
John T. Young: Go dig through trash for someone's used soda bottle.
Me: On second thought...
😂
Brilliant
I read that with an English accent. ❤
@@JohnTYoung Cheers. I'm a man of few words but nice to see what you're doing.
Hi John. Thanks for your video. Where do you purchase most of your items: small tent, sleeping bag, moto bags etc.
Taco Moto, CRF's Only, Rocky Mountain... and everywhere. Camping stuff I've been collecting over years and years of mountain climbing/camping adventures. Whoever has the best deal.
Спасибо. Super.
Thank you
Did I miss the part where you show us your first aid kit?
I don’t know that I ever show it, just mention it. But it includes lots of clothe tap and Ibuprofen.
Any chance of making a video or a list of what you are taking with in your tool role, for your own bike and the obviously the other not riding a Honda 🤣 Not too sure if there has been anything on this already?
Sure! Just for you.
@@JohnTYoung Thanks, looking forward!
Hi John - can you comment on your tablet you use and the reasons why you use that vs a gps ? Cheers
I use an 8" Samsung Tab A. It's $200 or less and has a HUGE screen that I can use Backcountry Navigator or Gaia on. I can still use it as a tablet to D/L photos or talk to everyone on UA-cam on - etc... I love topo maps so I use them. Maybe if someone buys me a $700 GPS I'll give it a shot. They seem pretty sturdy.
You might pack a portable electric fence for bear country. A compact 2.4 lbs for huge peace of mind.
I've been camping in bear country for a while now and have yet to (knock on my wooden head) have an issue with a bear. Not that they weren't around, just that they had no reason to bother me in my tent.
Hey John, good informative vid. The bike, have you always ridden the 450crf? Did you ever ride a 650cc on BDR etc? IS 650 too big ?
I've never ridden a 650 on a BDR, but I have ridden my 890. Size is relative.
Are you happy with the MSR hubba hubba? Just bought one at 50% (used one night). My previous tent wasn't freestanding and I initially thought that didn't matter. But several nights after setting up the tent the wind shiftet and embers from the fire flew directly at my tent. Freestanding, lightweight and being able to separate the outer and inner made me go with the MSR.
I'm on my 2nd Hubba Hubba. The first one is 15 years old and now with my son who still uses it. Can't go wrong with a Hubba Hubba.
I wonder if On-Star would be great for summons of emergency aid?
Not if it called in the calvary every time I tipped over. 😬
I carry a Crankbrothers Gem Hand Pump instead of an electric pump, by the time I'm tired pumping the rear I have around 20psi, perfect! Hey John interest to know what tools you carry to remove your front wheel, think I saw you have the Motion Pro tire lever 22mm wrench combo which does work for the recessed front wheel nut, looking for a lighter alternative to a socket and bar
I now have the Anti Gravity Micro pump which weighs a LOT less. For the front wheel I just use a steel box end. Most aluminum wrenches won't fit.
Giant Loop makes a very nice mount for your InReach. Carrying it in your backpack seems wrong?
Great kit!
It was in the waterproof section, not the section I was looking in. Doh. Anyway, I'd rather have it on me in case my bike and I get seperated.
It was in the waterproof section, not the section I was looking in. Doh. Anyway, I'd rather have it on me in case my bike and I get seperated.
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The Giant Loop mount is made for your backpack. I’d send a picture or link but UA-cam doesn’t allow it. It makes it accessible without taking your pack off. Very well made!
Great vid. What do you do think all of that gear weighs? Do you swap shock springs back to get the proper sag? Stoked for you to out there. Thanks
The gear weighs about 50 lbs plus the gear hanging on me is another 15 or 20. I do not swap springs back and forth, I just live with the bike being a little soft or a little stiff. Honestly, it rides great in either ADV or MX mode with the 6.0 spring.
tent poles should be i a leather sheath like a knife
What a great idea!
First off, fantastic video(s)! I’m trying to get a trip planned this spring/summer and haven’t bought a bike yet but will probably be there 450l. My question is this, on these BDR trips how long do you ride before performing an oil change? Thanks again!!!
I don't normally go too much past 1000 miles or so.
@@JohnTYoung Thanks again for your generosity in sharing your knowledge and experiences!
Maintenance every 625 miles with this bike, not a good choice for adventure, what do you think? :( You'd be better with a KTM 690 enduro(Or Husk 701)...
I think if changing the oil every 1000 or so miles is a worry then this is not the bike for you. If, on the other hand, it's not a bother, then you will love how ridiculously lightweight and offroad worthy it is
@@JohnTYoung Thanks for the answer, yes I agree
@@JohnTYoung 690 KTM, 321lbs, Very impresive for a 700CC!! Maintenance every 10,000km!
@@patfrazer Without gas, oil, or fork oil in it - yes.
Very nice shooting. Fact that you let bad shots gives a real natural narrative. You are carrying a lot of stuff 😊. I m still downsizing to the unicorn 4 kg backpack including all. Two points: the stay warm and dry. This is IMHO the main topic... and during offroad trips, it can be nearly impossible to dry things. 2/ safety : bandages and tapes are necessary but for millions times i will mention again the two mandatory , small and cheap things : israreli bandage and quick clot antiblood ... emergency said it saved one of my kids leg cut by bike sprocket. Then there are things you can find everywhere, and others you think you would easily find, but no, nada😂 like a very small needle, a small magnifier, a sharp cutter blade, alcool or better, betadine. Thorn in a finger can fast become a big problem. Feet too need the be feed by cream, vaseline or any preventing moisture in between fingers, due to all day ride in humid or wet boots. Eyes drop too against dust, sand, some branches hits, etc... kudos on backup with other gloves pair. ;) your video is credible as you just throw on ground things. Real back country rider !! Give us please the whole weight of your gears 😊
Maybe 40 lbs with camera and video gear...
List the air pump please .
I had good luck with the Antigravity micro start inflators
Hi John! Just discovered you on UA-cam. I am slowly planning to get on a full time bike trip all over Canada, US and Mexico. Could you give me an estimate of how much all of the things (bike, mods, gear, tools, equipment) cost? I wanna buy a brand new 450rl and do the proper modifications. I do have quite a bit of lightweight quality camping gear. I’m wondering how much all of that stuff would cost. You channel will definitely be helpful. Thanks!
Man, add it all up? That would probably depress me. It's a LOT.
@@JohnTYoung 😂 25k
Does toting that truck hood everywhere for a windbreak ever become a problem?
Nope. In fact it makes a really nice sail when conditions are right.
Awesome video John , how does the bike handle with everything on there? Any idea how much the setup weights? I am on the east coast so no BDR's but there are plenty of forests to ride. Thanks for the great videos!
There are the Mid-Atlantic BDR and the New England BDR. Go check them out. The bike is heavy for sure but still handles really well. Just remember to keep the weight LOW. Thanks for the questions!
@@JohnTYoung I definitely will have to check them out . I watched your old tower video and it actually answered some of my questions. BTW have you ever used the vortex traction control function? I used it last week a few times and it seemed to help in the mud.
Yes I do use it. There is a definite difference in how the bike hooks up.
Am I missing it, or did you not provide a link for that green tarp? I need one and it sounds like you like that one. Thanks!
I’m sorry. I don’t have a link. It was just a cheapy off Amazon
Just a uestion have you ever weighed all your gear and Luggage with say 4 litres of Liquid??
50 lbs or so with camera gear. I don't carry 4 liters of anything.
Hey John, I'm going to do the Colorado BDR next July/Aug. Do you think the Ascerbis Tank will get it done?
I did the COBDR with a 3 gallon IMS tank fairly easily. You just have to commit to hitting every gas station on the route.
@@JohnTYoung Excellent, thanks!
Hey John, where do you strap your bottom mosko bag straps around?
The frame behind the brake
will be riding partial CO bdr and aqll of utah bdr in sept 2023. been using the ultra hd tubes without any pinch flats. what's you thoughts on tubliss? thanks
They work great on my dirtbike, aren't DOT approved, use at your own risk. 😬
Not a necessity but a chair is nice.
I've thought about it, I've just never pulled the trigger on a chair.
Hi John,
Thank you for the videos
I’m taking off in 2 weeks for a 5 day camping trip on my 450RL with the Reckless 80 system
I know to keep all the heavy items down low.Do you try to keep the weight equal in each of the bags?
Thank you
I do try to. It makes a difference when your putting along real slow.
So you carry all those tools just to help out guys with white or orange bikes?
I am SUPER nice like that. Last time I had to break out the tools it was to fix a green bike.
Front tube in rear got me about 100 miles before it blew on the NMBDR.... not sure if that's typical or not. Video if interested ua-cam.com/video/x4FrvBRWVfM/v-deo.html
But where is the kitchen sink?
I make the guy on the GS carry it.
Lol
How much weight are you carrying? Does it affect the handling/geometry of the bike. Have to imagine even with preload the front is very light? As because I’m trying to decide between a KTM/Husky Enduro or T7
Should add I’m 210lbs 6’2”
I added a heavier rear spring to hold all my junk up in the air. My bags are about 40 or 50 pounds.