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Festool workplace organisation and storage solutions #2
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2017
- I have decided to get rid of all of the scruffy toolboxes and cheap containers for screws and other bits and replace them with Festool kit bought from Axminster here in the UK. As these new containers are part of a "System" I can easily mix and match what I might want to take with me if I am working away from base.
In the workshop they store neatly are easy to use and are very rugged. I am delighted with all of this new kit. Festool UK have kindly lent me some additional items to help me complete this series of videos.
Storage solutions are a pretty dry subject but you make it very watchable with your humour and snazzy organ music. Great video :)
Hi Ed, Gosh - many thanks. peter
I have purchased most of Festool organising products from the Sys roller to the power hub and most in between, I'm just not an organised person, I end up with tools in random boxes all the time. It's like van racking another good idea if it's used as intended.
But great vid as usual it has inspired me a little😀
Hi Ian, If it helps, I too am a bit like you and as a consequence I have 6 tape rules in the workshop and I can never find one when I need it. I think that they talk to each other and can run and hide when I am not looking. Cheers. Peter
Hello again Peter, very informative, again. I'm much clearer on what I can achieve and how to set about it. Many thanks. Simon
Hi Simon, If you need any more help just let me know. Peter
Hi Peter, thanks I will. Have found another local Festool dealer who does actually hold the storage system in stock and as I suspected its much clearer when you can actually handle the products themselves.
The label areas are exactly the size of a standard business card which always looks good and is a free advert.
That's what I do too Phillip!
Excellent stuff again Peter, good to get a bit more detail of what can be achieved with these.
The down side is you're tempting me to spend more money.
Good to see you've got your twin brother helping out now. :-)
Thank you - just think carefully what you actually need and then buy it - you can always buy more later. I particularly like the Sys Storage box as it is excellent value for money. Cheers. Peter
LOL. Now you can't call yourself a cheapskate when you have a shop full of Festool. :)
Nice overview video. Thanks.
Hi Pete, Having a few systainers makes it look like a lot but when you take the tools out and place them side by side they do not seem like much at all. I really like these storage boxes though and have emptied all of the stuff from my old crappy storage units into the Festool ones that I have bought and I still have tons of space left over. Cheers. Peter
I have had 2 sortainers for about 13 years now. The weak point is the latch mechanisms. After a while, they hang up and don't want to fall into their dog slots. Also, be careful about overfilling the drawers particularly with screws. They can get jostled around and lock the drawer into position making it extremely difficult to remove.
Many thanks for the advice. I do intend to try and test it to the limit. So many things may escape an initial assessment (and video) but I can always return with long term advice at a later stage. Cheers. Peter
Please post the other videos soon! I'm really liking this storage series!
Hi Lucien, I am doing my best - I worked past midnight the last two days and have been starting at 7 am each day and this is all I do - apart from mowing the grass ! Peter
Great video as always 🙂👍 Thanks Peter!
Cheers. Peter
Do NOT underestimate the usefulness of the CT SYS vacuum. It is one of my favorites of my Festools. Not sure if you have one Peter - but I can guarantee that you will be impressed by its usefulness and quality.
Hi Ed, Festool have lent one to me and I will cover it in one of the forthcoming videos. I have had a quick look at it and it seems okay. I have changed my mind completely about the Sys MFT - what a lovely little thing it is. Cheers. Peter
Love your videos... Peter, here's a bit of intel for you. You can use plastic credit card blanks as label inserts on all the sys boxes. They fit exactly, are interchangeable and super cheap. I got 50 of them on Amazon for about $6.00 U.S.
You can write on them with a Sharpie, or go full OCD like me and use a label maker.
Cheers
Hi Eric, I knew that the size was right but I never knew that one could buy blanks. I will do a search for some now - brilliant. Many thanks. Peter
New Brit Workshop No problem... I put a link in on of my below comments.
Hello Peter. There are tradesmen out there that think Festool is just over priced. I have to disagree, yes it's not cheap but having used many brands it think the research and development, systemisation, design and efficiency set them way in front of the competition. Thanks for an excellent review and explanation.
Hi John, Many thanks. I suspect that most people would buy Festool if they could afford to as it is, as you say, really well thought out. Cheers. Peter
Do they have a systoilet too :)
Nice video really like it. Going to go on a shopping spree in Germany this summer for Festool, tools, systainers and stortainers, half price of Norwegian shops..
So this video series came at just the right time
Have a nice Easter.
TR
Hi TR, Many thanks and enjoy your trip to Germany. Peter
As always a great video Peter Perfect. Not sure about the music at the end though. German beer drinking music maybe.
Hi David, I will try and remember you musical preference for the KS60 video. Cheers. Peter
Thanks Peter, nice one buddy
Hi Ken, As always, many thanks. Peter
The "odd sortainers" are the classic mechanism to lock systainers together, while the other ones are the "newer" T-Loc ones. Tanos/Festool made sure that you can still combine them, but the classic ones need to go on the bottom.
What bothers me with the SYS-Sort IV / 3 Sortainer is the middle part wher you have to use dividers instead of the boxes you use on the sides. It feels like they wasted some space there when you need to organize lots of small parts.
I understand your point about the middle part of the drawer but one can use the space for larger items or things that do not need to be in a removable box. Cheers. Peter
Of course you can do that, but you could've done that also if they had designed it so it'd fit more boxes :-). I would've loved to organize a whole assortment of screws (smaller like M2, M3) into one drawer, but now I "have to" mix the screws with other bigger parts. That just tickles my organizing bone. ;-)
I like your videos, Peter. Really well done.
I get it ! Peter
Hi Peter,
Another difference between the 'old' sortainers and the 'new' ones you didn't mention is that in the older ones the drawers can be put in - and thus accessed - from the back. I could never figure out why Festool (or Tanos) did that…
Yes, I am aware of it but it is hardly worth mentioning. Good point though. Many thanks. Peter
Hi peter,
I've got two sys 3 draws, and also a sys sort 4 and sort 9. It's worth noting that the large draw on the sort 4 is actually a bit deeper than the sys 3 draws.
One problem that I have with the system is not being able to put the sort units with the smaller draws on top of the normal systainer. I wonder if there is a way of adapting them to make this possible? i have though about permanently attaching an empty sys 1 to the bottom of my sort 9, just to make it T lock compatible.
The other problem with the system, as commented by some else below, is that you also need the mindset which isn't something you can buy, until perhaps Festool can make some kind of organisational co-processor which I can plug into my brain.
Jake has made a very wise career choice
Andrew
Hi Andrew, It is funny that you mention the Sys compatibility as I was toying with the idea of designing an interfeace unit, probably less than 25 mm in depth that would do what is required. The trouble is not many people would want it. Yes, Jake will do well as long as he works hard and listens to his boss who is the most incredibly talented cabinet maker. Peter
Just wanted to say thank you for the really informative and entertaining introduction into the festool sor-/systainer range. Just what I needed to get an idea of the usability of those in general. Festool hopefully pays you, because their videos (at least the German ones) are not exactly helpful. Cheers!
Hi Jo, I do not get paid by anyone but get a small income from the adverts that UA-cam place on my videos. Festool is a great company with some terrific products. For some reason I have not been able to borrow any of their new tools to demonstrate - perhaps Festool UK have forgotten me ! Cheers. Peter
Love your videos, and gradually watching through all of them and they are very informative. Word of warning though, if you have any kind of promotional agreement with axminster tools or festool, then you need to declare that your video "includes paid promotion" or "hashtag AD". The ASA are getting hot on this stuff now. This isn't a snipe, just a word of warning.
Hi Rob, I do not get paid by anyone to make my videos. I design woodworking tools and some are produced by Axminster but they do not pay me to promote them. Festool have never given me a penny but I have spent a huge amount of my money on their tools and am proud of my buying choices. Peter
I have trouble finding things right under my nose (old age) and even as a none professional I'm a big fan of this type of storage. I use a mix of Makita and Festool systainers and to be honest I'd be utterly lost without them. What took you so long? :-)
Regards
Mike
Hi Mike, I have been saving up ! Peter
Thank you Peter. Very helpful. Can you provide your thoughts on “drill and auger bit” storage ideas incorporated into the Festool Sortainer System. I prefer pieces to lay flat. David USA
Hi David, I am not sure if you mean a particular arrangement or the general principle of storing auger bits. If it is the latter then auger bits and brad point bits can be tricky stored upright as the fingers tend to get cut from time to time. I particularly like my Forstners stored flat. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop Hi Peter, thank you for the prompt feedback. I agree on the safety aspect. But, yes, I am trying to incorporate drill bit storage into my Festool Storage System. I called Festool and currently they do not have a “horizontal” rack to accommodate a horizontal individual space for each drill “and” have a spot to mark the size. So I thought of utilizing the Festool 500692, pull out drawer component and incorporate a home made insert. It is 57 mm deep. Or find a tray insert maybe at Axminster. Your thoughts. I love your uTube presentations.
Hi David, You are better to make up something yourself that meets your requirements - a nice little project. Peter
At the moment to see Festool videos is really sad for me, yesterday my Van has been opened and then stolen all my Festool tools... Anyway its a good video thanks for sharing it.
I am so sorry that your kit has been stolen. If the tools are registered with Festool and less than 3 years old you should be covered by the Festool insurance scheme. Peter
Hi Peter,
Yes all has been registered before, and every thing its fine now I'll get all my tools next week from Festool. Now more than before I'll go just for Festool. Thanks for your help.
Thank you for the videos peter, how do you feel the systainer drawers do with dust?
Hi Sean, Dust is not a problem at all. I have a bunch of these now and they are perfect. Cheers. Peter
Sorry peter but I missed adding a comment about moving a stack of these around (more than a few), I have the basic Festool cart that is a god send when transporting tools from my car into various locations. I wonder how long will it be before you get one?
Hi Mike, I cannot justify or afford one as I do not have to move my kit enough really. I am toying with the idea of getting another Sys4 Sort 3 as the drawers are really useful even without those little plastic containers. Peter
Peter...did Jake ever get his tea?
Hi David, After the filming Jake sat down in a corner by the fire. Mrs Miggins went to the kitchen and made him a lovely cup of tea but she was distracted by a knock on the door. After several minutes she went back to the kitchen to find Jake drinking his tea and helping himself to the biscuits which were kept next to the kettle. She was very cross and told Jake that he had been naughty. Jake went back to work and was sad for the rest of the day. Peter
And to think...I was beginning to like Jake...
Hi Peter, What is the Festool part number for that plastic bag full of bins? Do you have to buy all one size or is there a variety pack? Thanks!
It was mentioned at the end of his previous video. If you haven't already watched it might be worth it. Anyway, I have just re-watched it and the part number is 201124.
Thanks Rico. Peter
They really should hire you for advertising! I love festool tools, superb unbeatable quality and ingenuity and understand why you do to but.. this is a bit OTT isnt it? :P
I quite enjoy doing this. I like to think that I am helping other people and I get some pocket money from the advertising that UA-cam put on the videos. Peter
Well deserved pocket money. And I'm sure that every person that stumbles across one of your videos enjoys it and learns something. Always full of information and character.
Thank you so much. Peter
If he cannot make a decent box for his tools, then why would you employ him?
Because in the time it takes for an A class cabinet maker to produce something that people will see and judge him by he could earn enough to get the Festool ones. All those plastic trays that I showed cost about £45. If I were to make them it would take a day as it would be quite fiddly. If I were still going to job sites or whatever I would expect to be getting at least £300 a day. Peter
I don't doubt you at all Peter, I was being flippant sorry. I have a shed load of Festool and mafell. You cannot beat their quality. I enjoy your videos. Les
Hi Les, I made that trick toolbox used in the video - one of my best ! Take care. Peter
All those plastic trays that you showed cost about £45? Cmon.
Peter my wife just asked me to say please stop these videos as I’m going to be very skint forever😁
Hi Mark, Could you make her something really special using your new tools? Cheers. Peter
I would rather build my own boxes for storage and kit much more satisfying to one self I would not go to that expense buying Festool products sorry Peter 👎
Hi Martin, I can understand that entirely but if you could earn enough to buy the Festool kit in half the time it takes to make your own then would you not think twice? Cheers. Peter