It is a beautiful speaker and I’m sure it sounds great in person. I am judging this by their Omnia all in one speaker which sounds awesome, especially for such a small package. Sonus Faber makes some very high quality products.
These things are stunning, and by far the most beautiful speakers you’ve had so far. I think they are even better looking than the paradigm sat and they were incredible by themselves :)
Great video! I really really like the Sonetto VIII, having heard them in your room. Definitely the best I have listened to! The design, and quality as you said, are world class. Cant wait for the full review!
@@getgappedtv7173 I have the Lumina 5s as fronts and an svs ultra as the center currently, it works pretty well right now but I feel like it could be better
@@getgappedtv7173 Yeah I've heard it many times and it sounds great just trying to make sure I make the right choice, should I upgrade the center or get a power amp first
@@getgappedtv7173 that's a nice setup you've got there! I've also got sonus Faber sonetto frontstage speakers with rel subwoofers. So what kind of rel subwoofers are you using, I assume the stereo rels are running both .1 and high level and perhaps maybe for the Big Daddy you have the .1 on its own 🤔 what's your room size or while you're there why don't you give us the entire setup...
@@getgappedtv7173 very nice indeed! That's actually a good way of doing it! So the T9s (high-level) gets used for music and movies and the Big Daddy only comes in for movies! I like it. But considering you've gone with the Predator in such a small room, I would've thought you're not getting the full use out of it or am I mistaken? The thing is I have a very similar size of a room (13 by 11.5) and I was thinking of adding a big HT sub, I'm just a little concerned it might be a little too much room-gain for such a small room. Have you experienced any such issues or do you just run you're Predator with low gain?
I think you are used to elevated/active bass from your towers, svs ultras, Paradigm founders, etc. I find Sonus Faber as a whole very warm and inviting and never fatiguing, throw in a solid subwoofer to fill in the low end or partially take over the job of bass from the towers say around 80 hz and it sounds even better. 👍
That very well could be the case, but at the same time they don't really excite the room when it is called for in certain songs. I would say their bass is specifically geared to audiophiles who like lean tight bass. That said, you are absolutely right, just add a capable subwoofer with a crossover point and you can have all the bass you want, with the great detail and clarity of the highs and mids.
@@SpecOfTech I would agree it's tight/accurate bass, more musical and just a different flavor of ice cream versus the other speakers, but the midrange and treble sure make up for it. If you ever get the chance listen to the Olympica Novas or even the Amatis they may provide the bass extention or volume you are looking for while also being so much better in the treble/midrange if you can believe that lol
Yeah your measuring them different to how they will be doing it as the cone is not flat it concaved so if you bend it and messure I'm sure it will be closer
I understand what you are saying, but I also measured the so called 6.5” driver in my SVS Ultra bookshelves and the Polk R200’s. Both of those measured larger than the supposed 7” in the Sonus Faber. Sonus Faber includes ALL the surrounding material instead of just the basket, which is misleading. They were some of the most embellished sizes I have ever seen in a speaker. At most, they should just include the basket, but in my opinion even that is misleading. I guess I didn’t really explain my purpose of bringing it up well enough. I just meant their measurements were some of the most embellished numbers I have ever seen when it came to woofer sizes.
I agree to a certain extent, they do lean to the music side of things, but they also do work great for home theater. The high and midrange clarity is beneficial for sound effects and dialog.
The first tell was the weight before you got to the size of the speakers. I was thinking the enclosure was cheap but you said it was well built so I was like hmm what's well built to SoT? Then you hit on the woofer size.. Bingo!!!Quality 7 inch woofers have weight.
I would rate Legacy higher. The Legacy have a clarity and full range sound that would be hard to beat at any price point. These Sonetto’s have great high end and midrange clarity as well, but they are more lean on the low end, and don’t extend nearly as low as the Legacy’s. With that said, I’m sure you are aware the Legacy are significantly more $$ too.
@SpecOfTech Thanks for the reply. I'm assembling my "forever system" so I'm looking to buy once, cry once. I know the Legacy Classic goes around $10k and I'm ok with that.
I haven't heard these, but I did hear the olympica towers v and versus the Kanta 2 it's a different sound. It's a different taste of really good ice cream. I prefer the Kanta 2 but it's just taste I wouldn't say one is better than the other.
You got what it takes.. you're a natural for making good content! Very much just enjoyed this video.. I actually came across one of your videos before but this is the one that made me subscribe 👍 My ears are a little sensitive to the High frequencies, that's half the reason why I was attracted to the sonetto's, I find they have a nice soft subtle top end but yet still sound Sparkly 🥳 absolutely loved their sound and the sound of they're Centre channel I might add.Even though I have a full Atmos setup unfortunately my listening room is quite small, probably explains why I went with standmounts + subs as opposed going with towers! Considering you've also got a multi-channel setup, I was wondering how's your noise floor. I don't mean measurements I mean by what you're actually can hear! After coming from 2 channel to multi-channel I couldn't believe how much the noise floor risen, It was only when I shielded my cables of length that the noise floor had finally been lowered. Just wondering if you had experienced the same thing after all with me coming from the UK.. it could be a voltage thing! I posted a short two channel sound test video if interested you can have a look at the set up... ua-cam.com/video/e-B3kjyLvwA/v-deo.html
I do have a little noise in my system, but it is just he electrical in my house. I can only hear the noise with my ear close to the drivers of the speaker though. I do use shielded XLR cables and shielded speaker cables for the front stage as well. I had a power conditioner and that didn’t clean it up anymore either. I think as long as you can’t hear it at the listening position it isn’t a big deal, unless you are a diehard audiophile.
@@SpecOfTech yeah I suppose I am a bit of a die-hard audiophile! Considering you've got a high-end setup that's mighty forthcoming of you to admit that you can hear a little bit of electrical noise. (shows character 👏) No I wasn't referring to distortion coming from the speakers. That's the thing about this electrical interference noise, its kinda hard to pinpoint where it's coming from! In my experience... 80% of noise within a multi-channel setup is actually interference (10% electrical, 10% distortion) and Iam not talking about cross cable contamination but actual EMI/RF interference. When one takes into account unshielded cables act as antennas for attracting radio frequencies and sadly the longer the cable the better the antenna! Probably explains why when I used to disconnect my Heights and Surround unshielded speaker cables, approximately 50 to 60% of the noise used to disappear and of course when I realised this, I started to shield my HDMI cables as well and lo and behold the noise floor had lowered by another 10%. I actually thought I was going to have to shield everything but my noise floor has become so quiet the only thing I'm able to hear now is the fan coming from the freezer department of the fridge, which is obviously located in the kitchen 😁 but if it doesn't bother you well that's great, I'm happy for you but I thought I'd mention it just in case like myself if one's a little sensitive to it, one now knows how to go about it! Even though ive got everything going through audiophile grade ISO-TEK EVO3 SIRIUS power conditioner (bolted to the wall within video) with a separate differential, it does help a little with a common mode noise (which caused by RFI) in my experience one wouldn't need to go this far unless one address all the other interference issues first! What I will say... the unexpected benefit having this sort of gear, no more wondering how good the setup is going to sound on any given day! It sounds as good as it can possibly sound and that's not continuously but instantaneously also.
Beautiful speakers. I’m upgrading from a 20+ year old mixed series Paradigm setup (Monitor, Studio & Cinemas) starting this week & building over the next year. My first upgrade is the center chan, I’m going with the 90c. Currently using a mid-ish grade Onkyo 7.1 100w per chan receiver (TX-NR656). Do you have any recommendations for a receiver to push a 7.1 Founder Series setup? Preferably 4k applicable as well (time to upgrade my TV also 😂). Thanks for the reviews! 👊
That's awesome, upgrades are always a lot of fun. If you are going with a full Paradigm setup, why not check out the Anthem AVR's? Anthem makes some top notch equipment.
Hi Mike, Great choice on the Founders! My thoughts are, go with a mid tier AVR, with pre outs!. There are some great 7 ch amplifiers out there, for not a lot of money. Tonewinner, (my choice) Emotiva, Outlaw Audio, just to name a few. The difference between just a AVR, and separate power amps are big. If you want to get the most out of the Founders, they like power that a separate amplifier can provide. I have 1-2 ch and 2 -5 ch amps connected to a 11 ch pre. and it just kicks ass!! headroom for days, and dynamics that can be scary. (NAD M17v2, Tonewinner AD1PA 2ch, Tonewinner AD 5180 x 2 amplifiers, 2 - PSA S1512 subs).
Yeah maybe...but that is why this is just a first impressions video. I have never found a speaker where bass improved significantly after break-in though, at least not in my room.
For as much as they cost the packaging is extremely subpar they couldn’t even use the nice foam that doesn’t break amazing looking and I’m sure sounding as well I like the base & feet on these seems really stable great video
@@SpecOfTech I want to buy my final set of speakers, and i don't want an external subwoofer. I like the design of this 2 models, but i don't know what to choose.
I am starting to think in this case, their placement and my room has something to do with it. They don’t have the MOST bass I have heard from a tower, but in their current position they seem to have a little less than they should. If I step back a few feet from my MLP the bass is much better.
They’re very bass lean. You buy these to be analytical with music - almost an intellectual experience. In my opinion, if you’re a gamer or a movie watcher, you should not think of these as a replacement for JBL or Klipsch home theater speakers. You’re truly buying these for ultra high density of information - I think they’re even clearer than the 804d3’s I had.
They are different than the Paradigm. They portray themselves as having better clarity due to their bump in treble and upper midrange. That being said it isn't excessive to the point where they are too bright, but some would find them too bright. Fit and finish is very nice on these as well, but of course looks are very subjective.
@@SpecOfTech a friend of mine has the F100's and they are flat out amazing in every aspect. Also he got them when they first came out, so price was cheaper.
Hmmmm, I wouldn’t say that entirely. They are my favourite for some things, but not for all. There are always a trade-off…at least with most things there are.
@@MasterMark5In papers, they look similar. But they don't sound the same not even close! Sound matters, looks next. Ofcourse those with money can showoff brands, but an enthusiast watching this definitely knows the difference. You should hear the other speakers in person you will be amazed!
They don't blow you away in the bass department no, but in the mids and highs they sure do. They have much better highs and mids over the SVS or Klipsch towers. It depends on your tastes I suppose.
Perhaps you are accustomed to speakers with bloated bass. Klipsch and svs are not audiophile speakers. The sonus are and are tuned to not have elevated bass.
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I bought 'em, and they will be delivered with my new amplifier! I can't wait to hear them!!!
My system arrives in a couple weeks.
It is a beautiful speaker and I’m sure it sounds great in person. I am judging this by their Omnia all in one speaker which sounds awesome, especially for such a small package. Sonus Faber makes some very high quality products.
These things are stunning, and by far the most beautiful speakers you’ve had so far. I think they are even better looking than the paradigm sat and they were incredible by themselves :)
Those Paradigm speakers are end game, must have been rough giving those up. Props for changing them up for content.
They really were end game speakers, and one of the best looking speakers on top of that.
Great video! I really really like the Sonetto VIII, having heard them in your room. Definitely the best I have listened to! The design, and quality as you said, are world class. Cant wait for the full review!
Even if they sounded horrible, at least they look amazing. Can’t say that for all brands lol Curious how the center is…
Super excited to hear your opinion on the center channel I'm trying to decide between that and the Perlisten R5C
@@getgappedtv7173 Denon 4700h and eventually I want to add like a Savoy g4 or maybe a MC8207 as the power amp
@@getgappedtv7173 I have the Lumina 5s as fronts and an svs ultra as the center currently, it works pretty well right now but I feel like it could be better
@@getgappedtv7173 Yeah I've heard it many times and it sounds great just trying to make sure I make the right choice, should I upgrade the center or get a power amp first
@@getgappedtv7173 that's a nice setup you've got there! I've also got sonus Faber sonetto frontstage speakers with rel subwoofers. So what kind of rel subwoofers are you using, I assume the stereo rels are running both .1 and high level and perhaps maybe for the Big Daddy you have the .1 on its own 🤔 what's your room size or while you're there why don't you give us the entire setup...
@@getgappedtv7173 very nice indeed! That's actually a good way of doing it! So the T9s (high-level) gets used for music and movies and the Big Daddy only comes in for movies! I like it. But considering you've gone with the Predator in such a small room, I would've thought you're not getting the full use out of it or am I mistaken? The thing is I have a very similar size of a room (13 by 11.5) and I was thinking of adding a big HT sub, I'm just a little concerned it might be a little too much room-gain for such a small room. Have you experienced any such issues or do you just run you're Predator with low gain?
I think you are used to elevated/active bass from your towers, svs ultras, Paradigm founders, etc. I find Sonus Faber as a whole very warm and inviting and never fatiguing, throw in a solid subwoofer to fill in the low end or partially take over the job of bass from the towers say around 80 hz and it sounds even better. 👍
That very well could be the case, but at the same time they don't really excite the room when it is called for in certain songs. I would say their bass is specifically geared to audiophiles who like lean tight bass. That said, you are absolutely right, just add a capable subwoofer with a crossover point and you can have all the bass you want, with the great detail and clarity of the highs and mids.
@@SpecOfTech I would agree it's tight/accurate bass, more musical and just a different flavor of ice cream versus the other speakers, but the midrange and treble sure make up for it. If you ever get the chance listen to the Olympica Novas or even the Amatis they may provide the bass extention or volume you are looking for while also being so much better in the treble/midrange if you can believe that lol
Yeah your measuring them different to how they will be doing it as the cone is not flat it concaved so if you bend it and messure I'm sure it will be closer
I understand what you are saying, but I also measured the so called 6.5” driver in my SVS Ultra bookshelves and the Polk R200’s. Both of those measured larger than the supposed 7” in the Sonus Faber. Sonus Faber includes ALL the surrounding material instead of just the basket, which is misleading. They were some of the most embellished sizes I have ever seen in a speaker. At most, they should just include the basket, but in my opinion even that is misleading. I guess I didn’t really explain my purpose of bringing it up well enough. I just meant their measurements were some of the most embellished numbers I have ever seen when it came to woofer sizes.
I find Sonus to be more suited for music then home theater. They are one of my favorite speaker brands.
I agree to a certain extent, they do lean to the music side of things, but they also do work great for home theater. The high and midrange clarity is beneficial for sound effects and dialog.
The first tell was the weight before you got to the size of the speakers. I was thinking the enclosure was cheap but you said it was well built so I was like hmm what's well built to SoT? Then you hit on the woofer size.. Bingo!!!Quality 7 inch woofers have weight.
On strictly a sound basis, would you rate these or the Legacy higher?
I would rate Legacy higher. The Legacy have a clarity and full range sound that would be hard to beat at any price point. These Sonetto’s have great high end and midrange clarity as well, but they are more lean on the low end, and don’t extend nearly as low as the Legacy’s. With that said, I’m sure you are aware the Legacy are significantly more $$ too.
@SpecOfTech
Thanks for the reply. I'm assembling my "forever system" so I'm looking to buy once, cry once. I know the Legacy Classic goes around $10k and I'm ok with that.
I haven't heard these, but I did hear the olympica towers v and versus the Kanta 2 it's a different sound. It's a different taste of really good ice cream. I prefer the Kanta 2 but it's just taste I wouldn't say one is better than the other.
You got what it takes.. you're a natural for making good content! Very much just enjoyed this video.. I actually came across one of your videos before but this is the one that made me subscribe 👍
My ears are a little sensitive to the High frequencies, that's half the reason why I was attracted to the sonetto's, I find they have a nice soft subtle top end but yet still sound Sparkly 🥳 absolutely loved their sound and the sound of they're Centre channel I might add.Even though I have a full Atmos setup unfortunately my listening room is quite small, probably explains why I went with standmounts + subs as opposed going with towers! Considering you've also got a multi-channel setup, I was wondering how's your noise floor. I don't mean measurements I mean by what you're actually can hear!
After coming from 2 channel to multi-channel I couldn't believe how much the noise floor risen, It was only when I shielded my cables of length that the noise floor had finally been lowered. Just wondering if you had experienced the same thing after all with me coming from the UK.. it could be a voltage thing! I posted a short two channel sound test video if interested you can have a look at the set up...
ua-cam.com/video/e-B3kjyLvwA/v-deo.html
I do have a little noise in my system, but it is just he electrical in my house. I can only hear the noise with my ear close to the drivers of the speaker though. I do use shielded XLR cables and shielded speaker cables for the front stage as well. I had a power conditioner and that didn’t clean it up anymore either. I think as long as you can’t hear it at the listening position it isn’t a big deal, unless you are a diehard audiophile.
@@SpecOfTech yeah I suppose I am a bit of a die-hard audiophile! Considering you've got a high-end setup that's mighty forthcoming of you to admit that you can hear a little bit of electrical noise. (shows character 👏)
No I wasn't referring to distortion coming from the speakers. That's the thing about this electrical interference noise, its kinda hard to pinpoint where it's coming from! In my experience... 80% of noise within a multi-channel setup is actually interference (10% electrical, 10% distortion) and Iam not talking about cross cable contamination but actual EMI/RF interference. When one takes into account unshielded cables act as antennas for attracting radio frequencies and sadly the longer the cable the better the antenna! Probably explains why when I used to disconnect my Heights and Surround unshielded speaker cables, approximately 50 to 60% of the noise used to disappear and of course when I realised this, I started to shield my HDMI cables as well and lo and behold the noise floor had lowered by another 10%. I actually thought I was going to have to shield everything but my noise floor has become so quiet the only thing I'm able to hear now is the fan coming from the freezer department of the fridge, which is obviously located in the kitchen 😁 but if it doesn't bother you well that's great, I'm happy for you but I thought I'd mention it just in case like myself if one's a little sensitive to it, one now knows how to go about it!
Even though ive got everything going through audiophile grade ISO-TEK EVO3 SIRIUS power conditioner (bolted to the wall within video) with a separate differential, it does help a little with a common mode noise (which caused by RFI) in my experience one wouldn't need to go this far unless one address all the other interference issues first! What I will say... the unexpected benefit having this sort of gear, no more wondering how good the setup is going to sound on any given day! It sounds as good as it can possibly sound and that's not continuously but instantaneously also.
Try to get the mission 770 or wharfdale Elysian 2 review 👍🏼
or wharfedale Elysian 4😍
Beautiful speakers. I’m upgrading from a 20+ year old mixed series Paradigm setup (Monitor, Studio & Cinemas) starting this week & building over the next year. My first upgrade is the center chan, I’m going with the 90c. Currently using a mid-ish grade Onkyo 7.1 100w per chan receiver (TX-NR656). Do you have any recommendations for a receiver to push a 7.1 Founder Series setup? Preferably 4k applicable as well (time to upgrade my TV also 😂). Thanks for the reviews! 👊
That's awesome, upgrades are always a lot of fun. If you are going with a full Paradigm setup, why not check out the Anthem AVR's? Anthem makes some top notch equipment.
@@SpecOfTech I was looking at the MRX 540 which is basically their entry level unit. Thanks for the suggestion 👍👍
Hi Mike, Great choice on the Founders! My thoughts are, go with a mid tier AVR, with pre outs!. There are some great 7 ch amplifiers out there, for not a lot of money. Tonewinner, (my choice) Emotiva, Outlaw Audio, just to name a few. The difference between just a AVR, and separate power amps are big. If you want to get the most out of the Founders, they like power that a separate amplifier can provide. I have 1-2 ch and 2 -5 ch amps connected to a 11 ch pre. and it just kicks ass!! headroom for days, and dynamics that can be scary. (NAD M17v2, Tonewinner AD1PA 2ch, Tonewinner AD 5180 x 2 amplifiers, 2 - PSA S1512 subs).
Won't you need to run them in first before you judge the low end ?
Yeah maybe...but that is why this is just a first impressions video. I have never found a speaker where bass improved significantly after break-in though, at least not in my room.
Hello where did you get your tower speakers cables on the back of your sonus faber from?
Hey Reginald, I bought them from Amazon, here is the link:
amzn.to/3v6ynLd
Thanks so much I was sD when you departed with your paradigm loudspeakers I have persona 7f
I LOOOOVE my Sonetto 3’s
What did you have before the Sonetto’s?
How they compare with the R700 ?
Haven't heard the R700. Given the price difference there will most likely be some stark differences.
For as much as they cost the packaging is extremely subpar they couldn’t even use the nice foam that doesn’t break amazing looking and I’m sure sounding as well I like the base & feet on these seems really stable great video
Nice to see they don't spend a bunch of money on packaging as it won't improve the sound. Good job. 👍
Congrats, I love my Aida, I think with Focal evos, are the best for the money
These vs B&W S702 S3?
Tough to say, I haven't heard the S702 S3. Best bet is always to demo them if possible...cheers!
@@SpecOfTech I want to buy my final set of speakers, and i don't want an external subwoofer. I like the design of this 2 models, but i don't know what to choose.
No bass?! They sound like a bookshelfs! 😱
I am starting to think in this case, their placement and my room has something to do with it. They don’t have the MOST bass I have heard from a tower, but in their current position they seem to have a little less than they should. If I step back a few feet from my MLP the bass is much better.
They’re very bass lean. You buy these to be analytical with music - almost an intellectual experience. In my opinion, if you’re a gamer or a movie watcher, you should not think of these as a replacement for JBL or Klipsch home theater speakers. You’re truly buying these for ultra high density of information - I think they’re even clearer than the 804d3’s I had.
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You think those are better than the paradigm?
They are different than the Paradigm. They portray themselves as having better clarity due to their bump in treble and upper midrange. That being said it isn't excessive to the point where they are too bright, but some would find them too bright. Fit and finish is very nice on these as well, but of course looks are very subjective.
@@SpecOfTech thanks for the answer. It seems to me that there is more engineering involved in the Paradigm founders.
@@JC.LC. Personally, I do prefer the Paradigms, their bass is out of this world.
@@SpecOfTech a friend of mine has the F100's and they are flat out amazing in every aspect. Also he got them when they first came out, so price was cheaper.
I bet they are your favorite now
Hmmmm, I wouldn’t say that entirely. They are my favourite for some things, but not for all. There are always a trade-off…at least with most things there are.
@@SpecOfTech I am still looking for new amp to hook them up. Hard to make up mind properly
To be frank, poor bass. Not even little close to klipsch rf3s or svs towers
Really? I thought the sonetto have great bass especially the sonetto 8, they aren't going to hit 20hz but that's what a subwoofer is for
@@MasterMark5In papers, they look similar. But they don't sound the same not even close! Sound matters, looks next. Ofcourse those with money can showoff brands, but an enthusiast watching this definitely knows the difference. You should hear the other speakers in person you will be amazed!
They don't blow you away in the bass department no, but in the mids and highs they sure do. They have much better highs and mids over the SVS or Klipsch towers. It depends on your tastes I suppose.
Perhaps you are accustomed to speakers with bloated bass. Klipsch and svs are not audiophile speakers. The sonus are and are tuned to not have elevated bass.
I can appreciate the beautiful design of the speaker. It is not for me . I am not a pretty man🤣😅
lol sometimes us non-pretty guys need some pretty stuff around us.