"GG" Allin | Mental Health & Personality
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2020
- This video answers the question: Can I discuss the mental health and personality factors that may be at work in the life and death of Kevin Michael “GG” Allin?
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Honestly, it’s a miracle Allin made it to 36.
For real
Wu Tang. Enter the 36 chambers of death.
Right
It is miracle, but the body (at least some of us) can take unbelievable amounts of abuse, but not forever!. Look at pics/video from 91' to 93'... Prison sobered him up and allowed his body to (somewhat) recuperate, but he went right back to his addictions and self abuse and what you can do in your 20's, your body can't handle in your late 30's and this is obvious in 93' with the bloating, etc.. Yes GG did drugs, anything basically that was around and his cause of death was a heroin od, but my opinion is his body simply gave out and possible due to the way he found caused him to stop breathing, combined with the dope which is a CNS depressant, which slows breathing, brain response and heart rate.. The drug GG abused , was most hooked on was alcohol and alcoholism is no joke!. GG was known to drink around the clock and that certainly explains his rapidly deterioration in health the last year of his life!.. People assume as he died from an od, he was this Johnny Thunders dope fiend, when in reality Alcohol was the real demon for him as those close to him can confirm!...
It's also a miracle that he never became a murderer. We have to give him a credit for that.
At GG Allin shows, the high priced seats were in the back
Lolololol. This...made me wake up my kid from laughing. Dammit
*Rimshot sound effect*
You aren’t wrong.. the front seats would catch a mic to the head.. or a fist.. or a bodily fluid
@@BiLLz66614 or butt bananas
we stayed far away from the stage when he played at the cavity club in Austin years ago...
"He makes Ozzy Osborne look like Berry Manilow" 🤣
I'm a huge fan of GG Allin and Black Sabbath....apples and oranges sir....different facets of the same dimension.... Ozzy was a bad ass ...as well as GG Allin....poor Barry Manilow he doesn't get any love....'.at the copa copa cabana music and fashion always a passion at the copa copa cabana..........' patrick
He Is Betty manilow
Barry manilow was such a outlaw.
@@lorettasantos1811 I am also a fan and yes, apples and oranges indeed.
Haha! 'without having any musical talent whatsoever' so he was influential then, he inspired tictoc ?
No talent? He definitely had talent. Punk isn’t about a polished, perfect sound. Its the spirit, the energy that counts . Some get it, most don’t. Here we are talking about him 30 years after his death.
Still talking about him because he was like a dog, not because of talent.
Nah he was trash and so was his music!
eating feces isn't talent or "edgy". he was just a moron w a "shock" act. boring. not intelligent no talent. there is nothing there to "get"
@drmidnight680-kz2le u don't need talent per say in punk
@@erickh6587 I was trying to say he was like a dog and that's why we're still talking about him
I came here just to hear Dr Grande describe GG Allin in a calm voice
Him & emmymadeinjapan are so calming & soothing.
Lol!! Exactly 😅
Well, you got it lol
I love emmy, too and also reviewbrah, (report of the week).
Agreed!
He makes conceptualizing that GG even existed more palatable.
Naming your child Jesus Christ is a great way to help them along the road to grandiose narcissism.
Or a great way to mutilate their self esteem, seeing how they'll be bullied, and/or were given expectations they they could never live up to.
yeah, what could go wrong?
😂😂😂😂😂
@Ozymandias Nullifidian ... if that's the case, what do you have to say about people in Spanish countries named Jesus, a common name throughout Latin America.
I think it says Kevin Michael on his gravestone
When I was young I met GG at after a show. I was HUGE into the punk scene. He was incredibly nice and made his friends wait while he talked to me for about 20 minutes. (I was only 12) I don't know what happened to him in his final years but I'll always remember that he was very nice and we had a great talk about music, girls and life. Say what you will but as far as I'm concerned he was as nice as can be.
My friend asked me to go to a show and I didn't go, I've always regretted it
@@ambermchugh9381 those shows were somethin. Lol 30 years plus later I can still remember the smell.
@@stateofkansass I didn't start listening to him until after his death, all I heard was that he'd be naked and throwing poop. Wish I'd have gone.
Have you watched his brother Merle’s interview on Soft White Underbelly? So good.
@@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 just the other day in fact. He was there when I met GG he also came by during our convo a d was super nice.
I got to hang out with GG for several hours just a few weeks before he died. I was in a band, and we opened up for GG & the Murder Junkies in San Francisco. We arrived at the venue early, and found locked doors, with two bums sleeping in front of the doors.. who turned out to be GG and Merle. The place opened up, and we began unloading equipment, setting up, sound checks, etc. and got to hang with GG the whole time. He was far from “normal”, but much more down to earth, cool, and funny than I had expected. He told me that he ate ravioli out of the can to make the stinkiest poo, and part of his whole trip was to show punks that the weren’t as tough, rebellious, or “crazy” as they pretended to be. His stage persona was his real person amplified and magnified, not just an act. He was, is, and always shall be the king of underground rock and roll.
I have a friend who was in one of his bands and he told me he was actually really friendly until he got too drunk.
@@Man_of_Tomorrow unless you were a girl
He was a piece of shit who beat and raped women - And he didn't have an ounce of talent in his body. Someone who tells you how they eat ravoli out of a can to make their shit smell worse is not worthy of being revered.
Amazing story, thank you
GG, GG, GG, GG, GG, GG, GG, GG.....
His father dug graves in the log cabin where they lived to bury him and his siblings. Kids don't bounce back from that kind of abuse.
Heartbreakingly so! 🥺
Still throwing fecal matter for infamy probably isn't the best way to draw attention to yourself 😳
That's a whole 'nother kind of 'borderline personality disorder'
@@serendipitous_synchronicity Not that this excuses anything, but GG was a man who truly *COULDN'T HAVE* cared less about what others thought about him.
*edited for the 1 pedantic weirdo who felt it was necessary to point out a grammatical/spelling error of mine.
@@APPEALtoFEAR imo needing to shock is no less needy than needing to be liked/,hated/loathed... after checking him out on jerry springer... id say he was still people that needed people. 🙃
@@serendipitous_synchronicity Whether that's the case or not , he probably didn't care one way or the other.
When you've reduced yourself to more or less a freakshow spectacle, what else is there to do other than shock?
I'm sure that most people wouldn't actively try to shock people with things like public nudity and coprophagia if they cared about people actually liking or respecting them.
"Allin would engage in unusual behavior on stage" Once again, Dr Grande gets the Understatement of the Year award.
Actually, his stage antics were reminiscent of a style of performance art called "Actionism".
Understatement? How was it not unusual? Lol do you not understand how language works.
👍👍😅😅😅absolutely 😅😅😅
@@pheonix5597 actionism? hahaa!!! He performed oral sex on his brother on stage. Still want to call it performance art?
@@smkxodnwbwkdns8369 the word "unusual" Is fairly mild compared to the actions it's being used to describe, therefore making it an understatement.
Just so you all know, what the Dr. is describing involving the feces. That wasn't GGs big finale. That would happen 3 minutes into the set.
Very true it was a way of separating curious gawkers from real fans.
I'd assume he induced the shitting, so it would be hard to hold it til the end anyway 😅🤢
I especially like the part about how some fans would run for the door when the shit throwing started
There's something people overlook about this. Allin was a heroin junkie - he wanted the money and to be off outta there as quick as possible. Once he started shitting he knew that was close to last orders. Don't imagine he wasn't well aware of that, that the sooner he shat the sooner he could be out scoring.
@@shanelevene4864 Look at footage of his final show at the Gas Station. His microphone failed and he was very ticked off that he could not continue performing. If he really had his mind on heroine, he would have left the scene right away, but he stuck around bashing his head and throwing things.
Most of his shows he did not defecate. He was unpredictable as far as that was concerned.
GG Allin had musical talent. “Sluts in the city” “Bite it you Scum” and “Abuse myself I want to die” are all catchy tunes. In fact, he had a lot of great songs in his catalog. Punk rock isn’t polished but it’s raw, energetic, and enjoyable music.
My favourite song is "don't talk to me", he did a great Cartman impression before South Park was around lol jk.
“assface” isn’t bad either lol
Wendy and tilla
I liked G.G.Allen and the Jabbers if I remember correcly. It's been so long ago, but "girls girls girls gimme gimme some .... I like the nasty thing you do to me in bed, very catchy song, and needle up my ....! In his last albums his voice became so distorted and gargly he sound like he had a 1000 demon in him, but still entertaing!
This dude had ZERO talent from beginning to end
“Takes him out of the running for the father of the year award.” - and he doesn’t even crack a smile while I’m in stitches
I particularly love when he does that. It's that dead pan seriousness that makes it so funny
I'm here for Dr Grande's dead-faced one-liners. 🤷🏼♀️
I nearly wet myself on that one - it's a classic.
Also a sign a narrcism.
He's so objective! These videos are really good. :) I learn more without a "bias" even though it's my last name. 😂
GG was absolutely insane his death didn’t come as a surprise to anyone really.
MJ KG it did to me
@@MyDadWasALifeguard he would always say he was gonna kill himself on stage in front of his fans and so some Already expected he wouldn’t be around long
I saw GG when I was 17.
GG SCARED THE LIVING $HI OUT OF ME, even before I went to see him. Going was a conquering of personal fear and the most anticipated event of my life, all at the same time. Sheer excitement and horror, simultaneously.
He was absolutely harsh..
I never heard of him
Todd Phillips the director of "the joker" had produced a documentary about GG during the last few years of his life and stated that he thought GG was a skitzo because there were times when he acted as if he was his best friend and other times where he acted as if he didn't know him at all.
Wow, I never realized that that's the same Todd Phillips. I have an old vhs copy of his GG documentary.
@@myrealfakename6068 back when he was in film school, i think Todd was at the funeral as well
I bet when GG was friendly he was alone with Todd and when he was distant he had some of his cronies around. Just my opinion.
Was that the Hated in the Nation doc? I had it on VHS twice and both times it was stolen, ha ha.
Yes he did! A little known, yet totally intriguing fact.
There’s a video on here of GG hanging out poolside with his family having a barbecue etc...
He acts completely normal and treats his family well. It’s an interesting duality.
yeah I dont think dr grande did his research very well on this one.... he just wasted the whole episode talking about his stage persona and had not done the research to be able to differentiate
@@williamrobinson4265 exactly, quite a lazy analysis
@@williamrobinson4265 yup. the antisocial stage persona feels like some sort of projection he used to deal with things going on in his "real" life, but who knows.
I have a diagnosis: Bat sh*t crazy. Emphasis on the word “sh*t”
LMAO!!!
That's what i think about a lot of DR. Grande's videos. I enjoy his content but when it's someone who is a complete lunatic animal i am a lot less interested. It reminds me Chris Rock's great bit "whatever happened to crazy".
🤣🤣
Why try to be #1 when you can be #2?
GG was very polite
I feel so bad for the people whose job it was to clean up after one of his performances. 😬😥😨
Spoken so truthfully
Hazmat
I was tempted to book him at a WDC punk club back in 85 but I decided that I didn't want to risk having to do the clean up by myself.
i was in a band that actually played at the Gas Station around the time of that 'infamous' event.
@@spiritmatter1553 Heh heh... i think it was actually after. i was about 17 when we played the Gas Station, so it wasn't too soon after the incident. There was no GG stench though. We played a few places he's played at, i think. Dude was infamous. i never saw him live though, but i knew people who did. i don't think any of the places we played are around anymore.
I saw GG live and did lines with him after the show!! He totally calmed down after the show. He was all about the show,!!
I don't like him or his music, but I've always been genuinely fascinated by GG Allin, and how he pushed the limits of what a person would do on stage. I think it's a good thing he used music as an outlet because he probably could have been a cult leader or something
Wasn't he?
He is! Even though he he's gone 🤕☠️
GG Allin was a mediocre musician at best and if he didn't do all the things he did onstage and off then we probably wouldn't be having this discussion right now. However, it is apparent that in addtion to having serious mental health issues, due to his dysfunctional childhood, he was also 100% invested in everything he did. I don't care for his music either but I can't deny that he is a fascinating individual. When you see him offstage in interviews, etc. he seems like someone who wouldn't shit on stage, eat it, try to kill people, etc. but there you go. I don't know how artistic he was vs. just being a disturbed individual who also happened to play his own music (that obviously others liked and responded to) and make a living (or lack there of) out of it. He also had to know a little bit about the music business in order to make records, distribute them, book tours, etc so he had to know what he was doing on that end. The doc is taking all of his information off the Wikipedial page too.
gg wasn't smart enough to be a cult leader.
@@jimbeam-ru1my You don't have to be smart to be a cult leader you just have to be manipulative
I never thought I'd see a day where Dr. G would cover GG Allin.
I asked him over and over and he finally did! Dr grandes the best he clearly reads the comments and hooks his viewers up.
@Redwoodrebelgirl girl, same! I abt spit my water all over when I got the notification.
@Dappadonna G I'm glad he listened y'all. It was hella entertaining to listen to Dr G breakdown the infamous GG Allin lmao
I know, right?! I did a double take when I initially saw it!😆
Nice name 😉
@Danger Bear right on! I would literally not get one like when I’d comment asking, no one really knows who he is. Cheers!
“He felt as though there were a fire inside of him trying to explode”
Yeah, that’d be the laxatives, mate.
Quality laxatives and a lot of heart, haha!
LMFAOOOO
FOR THE WIN!!😂
I was Kevin Allin’s counselor for a year while he was in a prison in Michigan (Adrian Temporary Facility; D Unit). Had many talks with him in my office, and although he was guarded and didn’t make much eye contact- at first, anyway- he loosened up enough after a while for me to see the person behind the image, at least to a good degree. Although he had obvious personality and mental issues, Kevin Allin was not too much the same as the stage persona GG Allin, which is how his fans knew and thought of him. Although there were of course some similarities, Kevin was rather quiet, and could be found most of the time "pressing his (top) bunk" (in an open dorm-type setting; i.e., no “cells.”) He presented a somewhat timid persona, showed no signs of any "anger," and as the corrections officers I supervised agreed, seemed to be intimidated by the black inmates. For quite a while pretty much none of the other inmates knew who he was, and he purposely kept it that way. At one point he came up to one of my officers while holding his face, and “snitched out” another inmate who had punched him. When it came down to it, and as evident in his stage shows, he wasn’t actually a real good “fighter.”
At one point when he was nearing parole, I asked him “Kevin, you’re in your mid-thirties now, how long do you think you can keep doing what you do?” He responded that he was working on composing country songs, and seemed to suggest he would go in that direction, although he slid right back into his former persona and “career” immediately after parole. At that point I knew it was a matter of time for some kind of shit to really hit the fan, and it didn’t take long…
My take on the guy is this: like so many people, he would have much preferred recognition and fame in the “traditional" rock star way, ala the Stones or maybe the NY Dolls- after all, he kind of had that "look"- at first- and you can see the “swag” in some of his poses. However, his limited vocal and musical skills (which are evident on “home” videos of him playing acoustic guitar and singing) forced him toward a more “punk” approach, and because even those attempts took him only so far, the music became increasingly irrelevant and “the show” became more about the only “talent” he had that set him apart from every other rocker on the planet- more increasingly bizarre behavior, actions, and words that nobody else would even attempt. Basically, the bottom line became this: at some point, he either draws attention by increasingly becoming GG Allin, or fades into obscurity.
Although there’s a lot of truth regarding record companies and the weasels that run them, Kevin wasn’t personally really serious about GG's “role” and “message” as some “messiah”- after all, nobody except maybe his most hardcore fans ACTUALLY believed his schtick about “saving rock and roll”, especially by “spilling blood.” And no, we in corrections weren’t holding him as a “political prisoner” in order to stop him from this mission (as more than one letter to us from outraged fans claimed.) And yes, Kevin Allin definitely had certain personality traits that leant themselves to the GG character and would allow him to morph into that when the show was on or fans were around. But it all was very necessary to the caricature, the image, and I don’t believe for a moment that the GG show is how Kevin Allin would have written his own script.
I come from a very unique background myself and have known some real characters, so I actually liked the guy, and felt some empathy for him, because in the end, I’m pretty convinced of this- if Merle Allin (Sr.) had not been who he was, Kevin would no doubt have been more “normal,” and while he still might have had a music career- probably not reaching much beyond "The Jabbers" or so- GG Allin would have never came to be.
He didn't have his drugs. That's why he was timid and quiet I assure you. If you gave him his heroin in jail he'd be a nightmare. Why do you think he could punish himself on stage like that? When your whole body is completely tanked on all kinds of drugs it's easy. That said, he claims to have had sex with 12 year old's so he's unredeemable in my book in any way.
@@megadeth-1a885 In my experience, alcohol triggers this type of destructive behaviours on guys like GG, certainly not heroin. I had 2 friends like him (not as extreme), with not so much alcohol, they would go completely out of control. On drugs they was reacting « normally ». One of them was a diagnosed schizophren and i suspect the other was too. On the other hand i know guys drinking non stop large amount of alcohol and are « ok ».
You're lying
@@sheepdavis Who's lying, and about what?
so he didnt sit in his room wearing nothing but a collar and eat feces while covered in blood? just kidding haha. whether or not you're telling the truth, your story is interesting. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that he was kinda timid in real life. even if you're making it up (which I don't necessarily think that you are) i think your analysis is probably pretty close to the truth.
I have literally been looking for a channel or any kind of online resource which does psychological analyses of infamous figures like these. So glad I stumbled upon this, subscribed
"Jesus Christ Allen!" I'm sure that got uttered a lot in his home growing up.
LMAO!!!🤣
I think his dad got confused. He was supposed to name him anti-christ.
"Right? Jesus Christ Allen did you piss on the carpet again"?
Like in the Hangover loli
OMG!
G.G. actually had talent in his early recordings. He was good singer.
"Don''t Talk to Me" still holds up to this day.
@@gamebrains704 yep. That's the song that comes to mind
His cover of Carmelita is amazing as well!
Automatic is a great little new wave track and his later country inspired album was interesting.
Thank god someone said it. Occupation, Cheri love affair and even kill the police are bops
GG is a fascinating subject for Mental Health Professionals. I don't think there have been any others like him! I understand he had constant infections from feces getting in open wounds. Trainwreck! This was a great episode!
GG Allin makes about as much sense to me as a doctor asking for money on Patreon.
Ooft.
Got to this site for fresh butthole pictures
I agree. What ima look like supporting a Dr~
Buddy, this might be 2+ years old but this still is an epic comment lol
Cool. Stay in your lane.
We tried to play golf with GG once, but he just shoved his ball into his back side, squatted over the hole, and said he got an Eagle.
Greg M lmao 😂
Best comment on the thread! Thanks, the laugh was appreciated.
"My mind is a pistol and my body is the bullet." - GG Allen
LOL.
“...and the public is the target.”
" my mind is a machine gun, my body the bullets and the audience the target" - G.G. Allin...the full correct quote. Watch "Hated" it's about the last few months of his life and shows his last show at the Gas Station up to the place where he dies. And it's Todd Phillips directorial debut. It's not for the weak of will or squeemish. But a must watch by all
Allin*
@@Gross_Malone look bro. Im gonna call him Allin, so back off, alright?
He forgot the hidden acid trip that was induced. After that, he completely changed. His brother stuck it in a donut or something
I feel as if that was the prime factor behind who he was as a person, and as a performer.
one thing no one ever talks about is GG and his mom's relationship. i've seen numerous interviews with her and there's no doubt they loved each other and i'm certain he lived at home while he wasn't on tour or in jail. if he was a complete scumbag then how did he have an answering machine? he would put his actual phone number on records and fliers. homeless junkies in 2020 have cell phones, but back in the 80s you had to have a landline.
Have you watched "The Allins" documentary? That newer one that's practically impossible to find, Merle sold somd copies of it on the GG Allin facebook so I had bought it and watched it. In it, there was a love letter GG wrote to his mom while he was in prison that she reads. It was actually really sweet.
@@tylernash5754 If you *really* watched the documentary carefully, you should remember that his relationship with his mother was based on love-hate. Allen could first declare his love for her, and then he could start hurling words of hatred at her. His mother says so herself. Allin's mental ill is obvious.
@@ifuckthedeadislidemycockth1477 I watched the documentary one too many times. I was just pointing out a rare trait of GG that doesn't get talked about a whole lot. He wanted to be seen for his ugliness and not any kindness. He was beyond mentally ill obviously.
@@ifuckthedeadislidemycockth1477 I also imagine the hate for his mother was based on her being with his father that put them through hell.
@@tylernash5754 Yes, i'm with you on that.
I’d like to hear you evaluate the former lead vocalist of mayhem “dead”.
Your photo, though... lol
Dead makes gg allin look tame... dead was a much deeper character.... and lmfao... that shit is funny....... Varg lol...
@@ReverendWin-id9gp agreed. Dead makes GG look like a choir boy. I think GG would probably win in a fight against Dead, though. Yeah, I think there should be an episode about him.
Dead and Varg would be extremely interesting as subjects.
@@swampdonkey4919it would be that gg annoys the unholy fuck out of varg indirectly and would get beaten by varg.... dead would be safe...lol
I knew the early GG...he was a nice guy , easy to talk to and talented. The late GG was unrecognizable to me. It was a shocking transformation
Agreed!
The "early" GG was a nice guy? How old, 4 or 5?🤨
@@MrClassicmetal well relatively nice in that you could sit and talk to him. I wouldn’t have called him a particularly kind person haha but he could be polite enough
Silver Sundown Machine he was actually a really good singer before he went downhill. Heard he was real introverted.
@@thelevelbeyondhuman Maybe be just seemed that way because he was really constipated.
Just found your channel. Really interesting breakdowns on people. Thanks for all the hard work.
G.G. Allin was indeed a very good musician. He was an above average drummer. He also had a deep love and knowledge of music, specifically rock n roll. I have also seen footage of him being pretty friendly with fans and I have met people who have spent time with him and said that other than his smell, he was actually pretty fun to be around.
This buddy of mine knew his brother Merl and he told me Merl actually went to see John Wayne Gacy after G.G. and asked him what he thought of his brother, and supposedly Gacy said, "Great kid, love him like a brother, but if he don't stink like the pissist ass wino I've ever met in my life!"
And a pencil sketch of G.G. by Gacy was the cover of his last album.
Can't make this shit up.
I've got a pretty damn good imagination but reality always one ups me.
@@ericisprobablyfullofshit7797 That quote was not from Merle, it is word for word taken from the movie Hated...the person who actually quotes this is named Unk.
Fascinating that you did a GG video. When I was in high school, I actually went to a GG show in Joplin Missouri. It was on his last, fatal tour. To this day, it remains one of my best stories. Too long to get into here. Thanks for covering so many interesting personalities, Dr. Grande!
Please tell? For money? 😮
OMG!!! You actually did GG! You're awesome Dr. Grande!!!
@@Blitnock I just love the UA-cam comments section sometimes
If you bashed out his teeth, shaved the middle of his mustache, shaved his head, shit on his face and covered him in jailhouse tattoos, the good doctor would resemble GG just a bit.
Try to unsee it now.
I can’t believe Dr. grande has such broad and niche interests. What a great pragmatic and non judge-mental conversation. I love the models he employs
When I was 16 (1994) I dated a guy for about a month who idolized GG, and really tried his damnedest to emulate him. When I got a govt job in my twenties and could look up people's arrest records, his went on for three pages. I don't know if he's still alive, I'm surprised he lived as long as he did. Quite a whirlwind of a relationship, but there was a struggling, hurt little boy under all that bluster. I remember he liked to read Piers Anthony books aloud to me to help me fall asleep. He was a very inventive dungeon master when we played D&D. He was really fun to roll around in the sack with😉 Very occasionally he'll visit in my dreams.
Enjoying the shoegaze on your channel. Love what you wrote that occasionally he visits you in your dreams
A rap sheet that long he's probably dead.More likely prison.
"He makes Ozzy Osborne look like Barry Manilow."
I'm hurting. 🤣😂😂
Whoa!! G.G. is the LAST person I would've expected to see on this channel. Excellent work, Dr. Grande! Thank you so much!
You r the hottest gg fan ive ever seen
@@brandonwhite2740 It sure is nice to wake up to a sweet comment; you're awesome. Thank you so much! 🤘🖤
GG Allin is still a local legend here in NH. The Madman of Manchester. I've been listening to GG since the 80's and still have a few songs on my playlist.
Thank you for this great show. Very instructive. Keep going.
I used to know people who played music with him. He recorded an album with this band from my state called GG Allin and Antiseen. Jeff Clayton from Antiseen said that GG smelled horrible. He would sometimes go for months without taking a bath. He also said that some of the things GG would say/do were an act. He would contact the clubs beforehand to see what he could get away with. It's amazing what you can get away with at some places. I used to play in with someone who beat up someone with a belt during a show.
I knew a guy (now deceased) who ran in those circles a bit too, told me he heard GG was somewhat mellow even unconfrontational when not in the “GG” character
@@themadmattster9647 Are you talking about Joe Young?
I'm friends with Jeff on Facebook, he's a cool guy, despite our differences on some things.
Antiseen
Isn't that Hank 3 ??
@@lockandloadlikehell No. Hank is friends with the band, but he never played with them.
He was self aware, he knew what he was doing, he hated conformity because he believed people were afraid of showing their true selves due to societal repercussions, in that sense he was being himself and did not care if it conflicted with society's norms.
You can be a nonconformist and not rape people and throw shit on them. No, the guy was a POS.
call me a square, but I think staying hygienic with regards to your own fecal matter to prevent blood poisoning is a societal norm that should be upheld, and I'm pretty sure you agree with me
@@danielblank9917 Hoo Flung Poo
nonsense. the music industry offers a loophole to act like a scumbag so he played it up. It doesn't get any more intellectual than that. He wasn't an ideologue or a thinker, he was a drunk with a personality disorder.
@@danielblank9917 human is just another animal and you can see how animals live in nature like apes throwing their shit towards their rivals. This society, religions and norms are just illusions we created to avoid the fact that we are just bald, primitive apes that know how to use assault rifles and nuclear weapons instead of throwing poo
This video is awesome! GG is a very obscure "artist", so I was very excited to see your analysis of him!! I first learned about him in a book I bought in '97 which was about various musicians and their crazy lives and many of their deaths too...(I am drawing a blank on the book title at the moment...lol...) But thank you again for this video!
Artist ofcourse. If you dig punk rock you would know he did great punk songs
Our band played a great gig at a club in Milwaukee in the 80’s. We were called “Joy’s Purpose”. They offered us the house gig as their regulars. The next weekend GG Allen played there and threw his feces all over the audience. People were screaming to get away. The cops were called and they shut down the club for good.
It was a great place. So much for that. Thanks GG. ;(
GG did the same exact thing in Rhode Island and was not well liked in the skate/punk scene there beacause of it.
He actually had talent, the early Jabbers stuff was melodic and great and he was a great drummer
The No Rules 45 is amazing.
@@ExpatChef71 I have the 1983 You'll hate this record , record. He has two songs amongst other artists. He was excellent back then
He was for sure. I miss those old compilations, they were such a great sampler of what was going on.
His stuff with the jabbers is great. It's just too bad he lost his mind.
The guy who made this video knows fk all about him, all he's doing is talking in his own words about ggs stage performances, WICH wasn't the real GG ALLIN, it was MENT to be depraved and shocking eg the throwing of his own shit on his crowds and eating his own shite etc all part of his shocking stage act.... But not at all the real GG ALLIN, at all, this dude knows fk all about the real GG allins personality etc..... JUST THE STAGE PERFORMANCES GG PUT ON AT HIS GIG AND AFTER HIS GIGS FOR HIS FANS AND FOR THE NOTORIETY WHAT THE PRESS WROTE ABOUT HIM AND THE BAND WICH WAS EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED SO THAT THAY WAS KNOWN TO MORE N MORE PPL, ETC.....
When my neighbor stands on his balcony blabbing on his speaker phone I like to crank up some GG Allin for him. Anyone who’s rude enough to torture their neighbors with their loud telephone conversation deserves some GG.
I don't know what GG Allin's music sounds like but if you really want to torture someone, the US Army apparently had great success with Barney the dinosaur's music and I imagine the baby shark song would do equally well. Just make sure you have some noise canceling headphones on hand to protect yourself.
I've got a treble-heavy mix of Give Me Convenience Or Give Me Death that's like an ice pick to the eardrum. There's always room for Jello.
@@rickc2102 well now I'm curious. I love the album and yes there's ALWAYS room for Jello ❤ wonder if I could handle it??
@Anna Kate Cousin sod the bloody neighbours
His behavior on and off stage makes him such a hard guy to analyze. I've heard that he was the kind of guy you could have a beer with before the show but the second he got on stage, he'd throw the bottle at your face with zero thought or regret. Soft white underbelly has some really good interviews with his brother that give a better glimpse into who the guy truly was as a whole.
He was an artist 100%! The fact that people are still talking about him speaks volumes. His music, especially some of his more country style stuff really was pretty good and even a bit of his punk was good. Songs like "bite it you scum" express the anger he had beautifully! His dad clearly caused him to have some PTSD and that likely was a huge reason he drank, used and just generally engaged in self destructive behavior. I feel sorry for the guy, he had some talent imo, even if it was more shown in the live performances he put on than in his actual musical ability. He had real problems and didn't have any outlets for his anger besides his music and alcoholism which likely only made things worse. On top of that, he gained such a reputation as the punk rock king that he likely felt like he had to keep getting more wild to one up himself and keep fans coming back for more.
Music, performance art, whatever you want to call one of his shows, I'd love to have been able to see him in person! Unfortunately, that all happened at least 10-15 years before I was old enough to enter most venues he played at. Never bothered to look but I'd imagine most if not all of his shows were 18 and up, especially after he got the reputation he's now known for.
he left out the fact that GG'S brother slipped him a hit of acid. Who knows what he would have become if that would have never happened .
GG Allin may be one of the most interesting and most batshit insane people in history.
I don't find him interesting, he's just what you get in a person with zero self control.
I used to find serial killers interesting until I realised they are all just pathetic losers overtaken by their own fantasy life.
Right. Like...he was a POS...but I am always oddly falling down the GG youtube rabbit hole
I'm always interested to hear what Merle Allin has to say about about his brother and their family growing up. Merle comes across to me as a normal person who grew up in an abnormal environment, whereas GG inherited their father's insanity.
Couldn't agree more
Merle tried to be a family peacemaker.
Good human.
Merle did talk show appearances in the 90s. I remember them well. He is not a normal person.
There's a documentary called "The Allins" that goes in depth with GGs mom and Merle. Merle is more normal relatively speaking, but he does make poop art and sells it 😂
i have toured with Merl 94-2010 on and off opening with my band Spo-it's. Merl is not a normal person. but he is not as far out as his little brother.
Thank you for this video it was the most detailed assessment of G. G. Allin that I've seen or heard so far. I'm a G.G. Allin fan because i can really identify with him about his childhood with the fact that he was teased and bullied at school because I was also.
OMG I feel like whoever sent this suggestion in to Dr. Grande did it as a prank. This is fantastic. THANK YOU.
It was me and no prank
Man, that dude made Sid Vicious, look like an altar boy. Jeez. That was some piece of work there!😣😣😣😣😣😰
The sex pistols were a fuckin boy band. Some dork who had a s&m clothing store put them together to sell clothes. None of them were friends or knew how to play music before that. The ramones got invited to see them and they hung around long enough to piss in the pistols beer when they went on stage and bailed
It's really sad that he describes GG as having "no talent." He didn't just throw his shit around on stage, or beat people up, he also recorded a huge discography of really varied material, from more classic rock 'n' roll, hard rock or punk, to country and western and acoustic songs as well. He recorded music that could be regarded as being proto-grindcore, as well as pieces which sounded almost like pop punk. This isn't at all to say that he didn't have all the mental health issues that Dr. Grande details, it's quite clear that he did, but the description of him as being talentless is not accurate at all.
Otherwise, great video.
yeah todd was totally out of his league here
clearly he is a mediocre psychologist on youtube and a very bad art critic
@@williamrobinson4265 agreed. I was hoping he would say although GG was blah blah blah blah, he was an artist and “art is in the eye of the beholder” and disruptive creative expression can take many forms despite it’s legality or place in a “normal” society or genre of art. Just like a Campbell Soup can painting or Duchamp urinal…
Indeed.
It's interesting how someone who can play the guitar *and* the drums has, and I quote, ''absolutely no musical talent, whatsoever''.
That's certainly a first in the history of humankind.
@@monsterouso “art is in the eye of the beholder”
To be fair he clearly did say that.
*its
Isn't this "Dr" a fraud anyhow?
I appreciate this. I always have thought Allin would be a fascinating psychological study.
You can say that again.
Ok, wait a second. Just watched the whole video.
1. GG was a VERY talented musician. Look at his songwriting work with his early band, The Jabbers, and with other groups. Before his transition into his “bald” period, he wrote many songs which are catchy, profound (on a punk level); songs like “Don’t Talk To Me” and “Bite It You Scum”, to name a few, have been covered by numerous punk and rock musicians whom this doctor and the general public would describe as “talented”. And GG played multiple instruments well. Stating he had zero musical talent is completely false. 2. As with artists who aren’t interested in attaining the spoils many creatives strive to experience (e.g., money, approval from general society), one can successfully argue that GG was an experimental performance artist, and in that, his work was meant to be something that is experienced and understood only through the viewer’s intuition. David Lynch’s work which many deem as “incomprehensible” comes to mind as a more socially acceptable form of what I’m talking about. Rauschenberg. Abramovic. And a whole host of other artists whose work makes most ask themselves “What the fuck is this? I don’t get it. At all”. GG sacrificed his social and legal status, his health and, ultimately, his life, in his “incomprehensible” expression of his worldview. Are you aware of the sacrifices it took to be GG Allin, no matter whether or not you see him as a genius, a lunatic, or whatever in between. Clearly, he took his rage and antipathy and disgust at the hypocrisies of culture and “made something out of it”. He was dedicated and as vulnerable as ANY PERFORMER IN THE HISTORY OF ROCK has ever been when performing live. Micro penis exposed, his shit and blood, his self-injury, the incarceration awaiting him almost every time after one of his shows. 3. The Precepts of Punk: no one embodied them more than GG. No one came close. Prove me wrong. Bowie? Ramones? Pistols? Black Flag? I’m not saying GG’s music was anywhere as listenable as those other artists. I’m saying GG LIVED HIS ART in ways these other punk rockers, and other artists, did not. I think GG was a daring, talented artist; I also think Mayakovsky was, and Picasso, and Bessie Smith, and Norman Rockwell. Do I LOVE listening to all of GG’s music; no. But his performances were legendary because they were dangerous. Blood and guts to the extreme. We all go to horror movies and have no issue with the violence, the shit, the blood on the screen. We have no issue watch pornography, where violence of many types on and off camera occurs against the vulnerable, and that’s ok, right? We are fascinated by the taboo. Everything about him was taboo. GG brought it to you in his performances in a self-destructive way; he was throwing up a mirror and revealing how we, as a audience, are afraid of our vulnerabilities, and he attacked you for them. As Jung said: “To the degree you condemn others (and find evil in others), you are to that degree unconscious of the same thing in yourself”.
You wrote an interesting short story there, my friend.
❤️🔥
@Strickly4Metal 46 Like your existence, no.
So there's another weirdo who does equally "typically offensive" things without the violence. Name's Ron Athey. He's respected and famous for it. Grew up knowing the guy in Pomona CA. Knew he was weird, but not this weird... Check him out if you're so inclined. WARNING LABEL INCLUDED.
I agree wholeheartedly with your description. I've just come here after watching 'Hated', the GG short doc. He lived his beliefs and lived his art, and was an actual rebel until the end. Far more so than any radio star sycophant. He is admired as straightforward and one-of-a-kind across the board in the musical underground scene. No one else ever came close.
I've never particularly cared for the music (?) of GG Allin or his performances. However, I think when people say he was a 'genius' they aren't really saying he was a master of some craft or that his music sounds amazing. Rather, they're talking about the authenticity you referred to, and hold him up as some kind of ultimate expression of punk in the way he lived his life. Punk is a very diverse genre, but during the 80s and early 90s it changed from early punk that rejected all authority and embraced "anything that annoys" to a series of subgenres with different approaches. Some were just going in different sonic directions, but for other groups (straightedge, vegan hardcore, riot grrrl to name a few) clear moral principles emerged. In the middle of these changes, GG Allin stood as pretty much a singular figure who didn't care about any of these things. He was chaotic, insane and not beholden to any philosophy or in-group. I can only assume that people who think he was great found this refreshing, and his shows cathartic, because all social norms and concerns could be put aside for a few hours of revelry. If nothing else, Allin could be considered fearless and unselfconscious, which some people who couldn't behave like that 24/7 may have found admirable.
Well his songs are better then most stuff in the 90s/2000s or now.
Honestly, aside from GG, the Murder Junkies were not a bad band.
Listen to his old stuff. Before it became about the antics and ruining his vocal chords, he could actually sing. Check out "Don't Talk to Me" for example. Great song!!
He'd of been great doing the Jerry Lewis telethon. Love to see him attack everyone on the stage and especially that hypocrite Jerry.
Doc, after you said "he makes Ozzy Osbourne look like Barry Manilow", there was a cut. Did you cut because you couldn't hold it together and laughed? 🤣🤣🤣
Wow! This was a surprise 😄 Outstanding content Doc 👏👏👏
GG wrote great songs in genres: Country-Western, rock, and hard-core. I listen often. He had talent as a song writer and a performer, too bad he could not keep his cool.
I bet
psychologists dig punk riffs lol
Actually, his stage antics were reminiscent of a style of performance art called "Actionism".
Yeah, I think this guy in the video here should've stopped at commenting on Alin's "talent". Firstly, he wasn't here to be a music critic or art critic (I don't believe) and I don't know WHAT his personal musical tastes and criteria are. Secondly, THAT can be a SUBJECTIVE matter. Somone ELSE mgt find Alin's music and performances BRILLIANT. Like there are performers whom I personally think suck but that many other people think are great.
@@pheonix5597 well, his antics had a similar vibe to self-described actionist Pavlenskiy who nailed his balls to the Red Square. I understand that art and provocation may click inside one's head as actionism, but, conceptually, GG didn't try to make an intellectually provocative statement, but he was provocative. He was a crude yet entertaining performance artist.
He would’ve make a blues ballad
BEST TOPIC YET DOC. WHAT A GREAT SURPRISE.
How was this a surprise when I saw hundreds of comments telling him to react to GG Allin
@@SSaNNEE100 Obviously doesn't read the comments. Only makes them... invalid ones at that!
His brother Merle is the sweetest man I’ve ever met. Nice job Dr Grande.
Have to object a bit to “no musical talent whatsoever.” I don’t think you took a fair exploration of his body of work.
Yes i like his outlaw country records are brilliant hid cover of Carmilita is better than the original imo
@@TheAIDSGrenades Haha great name didnt notice it at 1st 😂😂😂
Yes. just because it doesn’t resonate with you in particular, doesn’t mean it automatically has no value to anyone at all. If people listen to it, enjoy it, and makes them think, it has value to someone. inherently making it art or performance to express feelings (idk if that made sense I tried)
I dig the jabbers
@@RabbiPorkchop They are not bad a bit pop/punk for my taste but you can tell GG has talent listening to the Jabbers and his country stuff ✌
A couple things were left out here. For example in his psychological evaluation in 1989 Allin was judged as "having at least average intelligence (that you mentioned), and was described as courteous, cooperative and candid. The unnamed evaluator noted that Allin did not appear psychotic (that you mentioned too), and seemed comfortable with his unorthodox lifestyle". I also read in his evaluation that he didn't appear suicidal or homicidal.
GG as the craziest punk I ever did see
@Tomjo5 don’t tell me you’re one of those people that thinks Green Day and Blink 182 are punk
@@arnieslab one of those people that think punk stands for punk rock haha kids
Dr. Grande is amazing! He managed to make a video on gg allins mental health and personality without having to make it 2 hours long!
Yes, 13 minutes of nothing..way to go Doc, how much we owe you?
his music is not too bad, and its amusing. not in anyway an artist anyone should look at and be inspired by, but there is something about finding the line and deliberately walking over it, that is admirable
I've never watched your channel, but I really like to listen details about GG's life.
My father had a vision that his son would grow up to be an idiot - so far, so good! Way to go dad 👍
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To be an idiot is to be human. Welcome to the circle-jerk shit-show club, bro.
“ disoriented fans would run for the doors “ LMfaooo
LOL
I love hearing your perspective Dr. Grande
This is the most accurate assessment of the late troubled man . Being a musician myself. I attempted to listen to his music but I don’t think it can be classified as music. This video was great !
True story: My friend saw him in 1992 for a Christmas show. GG stormed out onto the stage wearing nothing but shades, combat boots and a Santa hat while wheeling out a snow blower. He proceeded to take a dump on stage and screamed, "Merry Christmas, Motherfuckers!" and plowed the crowd with his yuletide cheer.
@Tomjo5 It's okay. He said he stayed WAY in the back. But this video has me thinking that GG was shitzophrenic.
I almost pissed myself laughing at that story and that mental image, thank you so much 😂
Wasn't he in prison during Christmas 1992? Unless you're thinking of another year.
Do Dr. Grande next!
yeah!!! that would be dope
Ha!!
What if he's actually just a guy locked in a padded room and this youtube channel and the people watching it are manifestations of his subconscious mind
That would be interesting 💙
Haha yes!
How did you keep a straight face on this one ? You are a true professional
I just couldn't keep it together after hearing that bit about Ozzie looking like Barry Mannilow. You could always persue a carreer in stand-up comedy after this, Dr Grande. I would definitely follow you on that as well.
I have been fascinated with Mr. Allin's career for some time and I would say that Dr. Grande nailed it as far as his analysis of Mr. Allin's personality and musical attributes. Bravo!
You can’t grow up a punk rock fan in New Hampshire without hearing about G.G. Allin
GG Allen was a figure in punk I'm glad isn't as popular anymore for a multitude of reasons.
Also, interesting how Gacy drew portraits of Allen and they seemed to have some sort of relationship because they both have memorabilia displayed at the Museum of Death just in separate rooms
Great channel! Found it because i'm a fan of extreme music. You should look into Dave Brockie of Gwar, he's a fascinating character as well.
Dr. Grande, I think overall your analysis of GG Alin's personality is accurate. However, I would like to offer insight on whether he was actually "successful" as an artist. During my misspent youth I met a number of Alin's devoted fans, even years after his death his lyrics and performances were influencing future generations of artists inspired by the Punk Rock movement. One of my young associates was such a dedicated fan he managed to make himself the front man preforming with the Murder Junkies for a brief time, filling the shoes of his deceased hero. So, it is hard to say GG Alin was unsuccessful in achieving his own unconventional goals. 25 years after his death, he remains a legendary performance artist and an icon of the self-destructive nihilism of the late 20th Century. In that sense he was successful, as he elevated his personal disfunctions and failures into a sublime artistic folly that we're still discussing right now.
was that mike denied? we played with that line up
Here here. Could not have put it better myself. The fact that GG’s music is still being enjoyed and performed is all the proof you need that he was successful. Not all punk musicians need to sound like green day to be relevant.
That's a good point, Mannix. If he was not successful then we would not be discussing him at this moment. Also, I like that you shed light upon self-destructive nihilism as an art; not a disorder. We can see this type of art throughout history into modern times but that does not mean every nihilistic artist is psychologically corrupt. Also, to be clear, I can remember at least one interview with GG that he seemed to be so twisted and destructive on-stage to separate his true fans from the casual spectators. I believe he said something to the effect of, "good. Let them leave. The true m'f'ers are the ones who stayed." As a musician myself, I can see the logic in this as framed in the punk rock scene because resources, being as limited as they are, could be considered wasted when spent on people who are not going to buy into the act. On the other side of that is the added benefit of attracting more fans and would-be investors through such a crazy act that can be found on no other stage. Ozzy may have eaten the heads of bats but anyone can do that; however, can anyone eat their own feces on-stage without vomiting while continuing the performance to the end? I hardly think so.
Mix of childhood and targeting perhaps? Thanks for the insight, had always thought that it was a slow decent and prison changed him. Sucks that he never had a chance really.
Thank you so much for noticing as well. You put it much better than I could.
He died of a drug overdose and no one at the party understood he was dead until hours later.
Yep. He just sat on the couch woth his dark glasses on while people partied around him. I find that particularly gruesome, but so appropriate for G.G., ya know?
CyanideLollipop you’re thinking of weekend at bernie’s.
@@mildred714 No, I'm thinking of GG Alin.
CyanideLollipop that one was a little over your head I guess.
@@mildred714 Just a little!? Took me awhile....
I've outlived GG by at least a decade and occasionally look at old photos of him. Not once have I said "He was so young and good-looking -- what a shame he died at a tender age."
lol
The thing is he really did have musical,talent deep,within all that insanity. Such a strange case study. People will be talking about him for centuries to come. Who knew.
He never blamed his father for how he turned out, although he easily could have. He said "If anything, I thank my enemies for making me a warrior soul!"
Grande´s dry wit and Allins insanity is nothing less then a perfect storm
Wow how have I missed this one !
Another great video!! Would love to hear about Vincent Van Gogh pleaseeeeeee
"He makes Ozzy look like Barry Manilow"... LMAO!!! Never heard of him, guess I'm not really into diarrhea. Thanks for another interesting video.😎
Omg yeahhhhh that was just to dam funny!!
I am a big Dr. Todd fan and also a fan of early GG Allin. I to laughed hard at that one
Daniel Kistle I love his early work too. They’re all bangers.
It's a punk rock thing.
I grew up in Des Moines, and while I was not at that infamous 1982 concert when Ozzy decapitated a dead bat with his teeth, I knew a lot of people who were. I read in the paper the next day that younger members of the ER staff were explaining Ozzy to older staffers, who didn't believe the story.
Nowadays, older ER personnel would probably be explaining him to younger people.
Leave it to Dr. Grande to cover someone like GG Allen in a logical and rational manner. I couldn’t watch this video fast enough.
Great video! GG did have musical talent. It can be heard in his earlier work, before he received more attention and money for his antics.
Merle was on SWU.....made it thru 10 minutes and figured I'd check out GG 1st.
Dr. Grande always has interesting views on today's topics. Spot on here. Tee
Thank you for doing this Dr. G. I wrote an analysis of him in college for my Forensic Psychology and Applied Behavior class. Be really great to hear if my take was as good as the grade I got by what you say.. So much respect for you.. 💯❤️
Can you think about doing a video on TJ Lane who did the school shooting and the way he was so horrific in court to the families of the classmates he killed and harmed?
Holy moly. I sure do love it when two of my random interests intersect in such an interesting way. Thank you for this, Dr. Grande! 🤗
The fact this guy is even beginning to speculate as to the myriad of neurosis/psychosis he suffered from, is very brave.
I believe he was a competent drummer, he could write songs, some have been covered.
He collaberated with other bands. He also released country albums. He could get along with people when he wanted to. His brother Merle who played with him said he was a "perfect gentleman" except when onstage and that his act was "performance art". Although Merle also said GG would sometimes tell people who had helped him where to go or brush them off.
Im no musician, maybe I'm like someone who likes furnature or a machine (like steampunk) which to a layman looks impressive but lacks real trade or engineering credibility.
To me GG is about the emotional expression, to take lifes dissapointments and just say screw you, I don't need you / didn't need that anyway / or dont kid yourself, I dont care about you.
To me a common theme that stands out in it is being strong in the face of adversity, the kid who was picked on too many times. Then, some is blatent shock rock. He performed with his heart 100% especially on the more angry songs. Bleak, angry, defiant.
This! thank you.... dr grande really missed the ball on this one