Fun fact: One of the rare fictional books that Graham Young read was a book by Agatha Christie; The Pale Horse. In the book, is a realistic description of thalium poisoning and its effects. Graham started to use this poison instead of antimony. Unfortunately for Graham, a doctor working with Scotland Yard had also read the book and recognised the effects of thalium poisoning in Graham's victims.
Once, I saw a Scared Straight episode where the kids asked an inmate if snitches get stiches. The reply he gave haunts me decades later. "Stiches are for people who are alive."
A few decades ago, my friends used the saying, "snitches are bitches who end up in ditches." No mention of stitches. As far as I know, none of them ever intentionally offed anyone though. Lol
It's all paid for by advertisers and they make the demands on what they want next to their brand. I just hope it doesnt demoralise Simon to the point he'd retire this channel, as it's easily his best.
The whole reason I love Casual Criminalist is because Simon shares about himself and his thoughts. I feel like this is one of the few channels that displays genuine un-scripted empathy.
A doctor at the Mayo Clinic thought I was heavy metal poisoning my wife… in 2014 she got mysteriously sick after experiencing a mild concussion. Her primary care physician couldn’t find anything nor could any of our local specialists, so we got a referral to the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota. When you schedule an exploratory appointment at the Mayo, they pack 2-3 days with dozens of appointments and test and scans and blood draws, and you’ll meet daily with a doctor that manages your care while you’re there. After day 2, the main doctor paused half way through the appointment and started asking questions about me and my work and then we left and got a notification that there was a new blood draw appointment that had been added to the schedule. The appointment lists always detail what tests they’re going to run, so I saw that they were looking at heavy metal poisoning, which came back negative. At the discharge appointment the doctor was like “yeah, sorry. You never know…”
That's the sort of attention to detail you want out of medical professionals. There's nothing personal there, they're covering all the bases. Because as much as 99.999% of people aren't poisoning their partner, there's always a possibility. Also could be accidental! Good job, that doctor.
@@misaamane7425 Because they *have to make sure.* Do you know how many people have *died* because no one thought to test the mysteriously ill patient for heavy metal poisoning?
I'm sorry to hear you had to deal with such accusations at a time that must have already been very stressful given your wife's illness, although I hope you could take some relief/gratitude in the doctor's thoroughness.
Personally, Simon, I love when you talk about your kids (and I don’t blame you for giving them aliases). It’s so beautiful and heartwarming, and it provides just the right levity for a true crime show.
Creepy. With talk like this, it's no wonder he gives hids kids aliases. The show is often about Ring and Fing Kids. It seems a bit weird that you want him to talk about his kids while you watch these stories about child R'ing, M'ing, and F'ing kids.
@@VidMashUp Are there mental people like that out there? Absolutely. Does wanting to hear Simon share stories about his kids as a way to bring some levity and light-heartedness to a dark story mean you're one of those mental people? Not a chance in hell. I love his tangents, whether he's talking about his kids, family, or anything else he says that isn't in the script because it's usually a bit of light and humour. This episode in particular, the story itself is pretty dark but Simon goes off script almost every other sentence and makes it a fun experience. Basically, stop thinking the worst in people under the slightest, or even 0, evidence to back it up. And giving your kids aliases is just smart and courteous, as realistically you should give anyone who hasn't said you can talk about them on camera an alias.
@@KingMuttley I said it was smart. But I'm not the creeper who said I come to Simon's true crime documentaries specifically to hear about his children. It's entertaining - he has an incredible amount of charisma and just about anything that comes out of his mouth is entertaining. At this point, I've seen so much of his content (possibly all of it), that I look forward to new videos coming out. I love Simon, I love his podcasts, and I think his stories about his kids are great. But I remember him saying once that it's a bit weird when people on here are really interested in his children. Like people that know when his children's birthdays are and send him an email to wish them a happy birthday. I think it's 100% fine and normal for him to joke around about his kids. I just don't think it's fine and normal for people in the comments in an adult-oriented true crime show to be bringing up the host's kids. Out of the hundreds of thousands of people that see this, what percentage will be weirdos? 1% of 500,000 people maybe? So you think that it's cool for 5,000 ped******s to be here talking about his kids? And don't say there are zero ped******s, ra****s, and mu******s lurking on here because that's just not realistic. It's just weird. He doesn't bring them up so other people can talk about them publicly. That is just super-creepy regardless of what you say. And we will never know if the OP is one of those 1%, nor should we care. But in acknowledging that, we have to acknowledge that some topics that Simon talks about in his personal life are not fodder for conversation among that 1%. Because if we think that's OK, then society has some real problems. You completely misread my comment, somehow thinking I was against Simon Giving his kids aliases. I said just the opposite. That it's SMART because of the creepers loitering in the comments.
Omg Simon don't ever stop talking about your kids, I just want a compilation of Simon gushing over his kids. It makes me smile to hear parents talk about their kids because that's how you know they just love their kids
I agree. While children are in no way easy to deal with, it’s refreshing to hear an adult who doesn’t constantly whinge on about how insufferable their children are.
It makes the dark stories easier when he shines the light of the love he has for his family, it reminds us that there are good, happy people in the world.
I'm one of those who actually loves hearing your little stories about your life and your kids. They can substantially mitigate the (very interesting, and fascinating) horrors you're reading about.
5:05 Yeah... So when our oldest was born, I called our insurance company to get a list of suggested doctors in our area. We interviewed a few and one was just super laid back and chill, didn’t mind taking his time talking to us, etc, so that's the one we went with. We ended up moving out of the area a few years later About 2 years ago he assaulted a woman at a high school football game (American football) while he was on duty as a volunteer police officer and it came out that he was just so messed up on opioids that he didn't know what was going on. While on duty. Around kids. Turns out that when our insurance company had recommended him to us 15 years prior, they knew he had issues around addiction *because he had already been convicted* the state medical board had let him continue working as a pediatrician, so our insurance company didn't bother to tell us. Also, he had apparently assaulted other women at these football games before, but no one at the police station believed the women. It took him almost raping a "respectable" woman for the local PD to take notice. Once his history of sexual violence came out, the local medical board was like "yeah, actually, even though we've known about his addiction issues for almost 20 years, and he's been censored by the board no fewer than *3 times* , I guess we're finally going to do something about it." And revoked his license. And this was all in the 21st century. So no, I dont think they would have to investigate in the 19th century because, as we all know, the past is the worst.
By coincidence just last night I watched a Four Corners (Australian investigative journalist show) about this in Australia and it doesn’t seem much better here. I’m a doctor here and as much as the thought of even more regulation is not exactly welcome there needs to be at least as much (if not more) as there is for teachers etc. And believing victims. Because that’s a whole other thing in itself.
"Respectable" ... as in the PD *did* belive that the doctor had s-x with them, but refused to believe that they weren't consenting to it... Absolutely disgusting
I love hearing about your kids. What's really cool is watching you as a very young man in your super early videos to when you become a very mature man with children.
Never stop your tangents, Simon. They make this channel so special. And never stop your stories about your kids. They help prove there is still light in the world.
Simon, I really enjoy listening about your kids. Hearing about your involvement with them, your candid comments and then witnessing your relative calmness regarding how you react to her, like getting up at 5:30, since Dora is awake. This is so refreshing, compared to what would of happened in past generations, including mine, especially if we woke up our fathers that early 😊! Thank you, Matt, Jen, and Simon for always having great videos 😊.
My mother's generation. Father's didn't do what Simon does with parenting. While I don't have kids, I love hearing about his in a safe way for them. We can tell his love for them.
@@jedijessicmy dad is 87 and yes he changed out nappies, cooked dinner and we could always jump on him in the wee hours (unless it was sunday and mum forbade it). They were ground breaking in many ways. My mum returned to school and then work as we started school, with that we learnt that men and women have to pull their weight together. My brother was taught ironing (not really needed now) and cooking etc so he wouldn't be dependent on a woman and I was taught flat tyres and mowing lawns etc so I wouldn't be dependent on a man. It was great and all the kids in the neighbourhood loved our place and my parents were role models for a lot of kids in how a "trad" life is not the only life. 💜
@@bunyipdragon9499 Your dad sounds great. Came from a single parent house hold. My mother has never driven, I'm lucky to do so but I can't change a tire. Thankfully had little reason to know.
To be fair to those around young Graham Young, his obvious obsession with chemistry, forensics, and the like wouldn't necessarily be alarming. I absorbed pretty much everything I could about detectives and espionage in grade school. Spent a *lot* of time at the library learning how to track suspects, make disguises, and secure my room against intruders. Watched a lot of spy shows as a kid, too. Growing up at the tail end of the Cold War was *interesting.*
I had an interest in these things as well, but I have to say that they are not completely the same..I mean, being into spies, agents and or film heroes/even violent war or crime shows is not really an opportunity for a kid to literally sell national secrets, go undercover or perform drops to the other side because he is a double agent of sorts..Pretty more alarming to be consumed by death, torture and the ideas of not only genocidal monsters, but literal murderes poisioning people...Alarm bells and whistles should have surrounded this boy/man every step he took and never be allowed to touch or handle any source of sustenance in prison/Broadmoor....
That was a fing ride of a story! It does make me happy when the killer's document their crimes. It reminds me that no matter how sneaky someone wants to be hubris always wins
I enjoy it much more when simon shares things about his kids and family, truly makes the script better and makes it so it doesn't feel like its a robot talking to us. Extra bonus point for always being good stories!
I love it when you talk about your kids. The Good Doctor, however is the portrayal of an autistic man who becomes a surgeon. That scene is a remarkably heartbreaking portrayal of the difficulties he faces every day.
0:10: 🔍 The Casual Christmas discusses the case of the Teacup Poisoners, specifically Graham Young, an English poisoner known as the Bloody Teacup Poisoner. 5:32: 🤔 Dr. Palmer attempted to sabotage the tests during Cook's post-mortem examination and tried to bribe the coroner. 10:17: 😢 The video discusses the life and family of a person born in 1947 in North London. 15:05: ! Graham became obsessed with poison and wanted to experiment on people to feel the power of taking a life. 19:38: 💣 Graham, also known as The Mad Scientist, used his chemistry set to make explosives and conducted experiments on living people. 24:16: 🍵 A woman named Winifred unknowingly drank tea laced with a poisonous plant, causing hallucinations and hospitalization. 29:04: 🔍 Graham poisons Frederick with antimony, but is caught when an astute doctor discovers the metal poisoning. 33:46: 🔍 Graham falsely confesses to poisoning a patient using cyanide from laurel bushes at a psychiatric hospital. 38:59: 😬 Graham's sister welcomed him into her home after his release from Broadmoor, hoping he had truly reformed, but quickly realized he still had unresolved issues. 43:47: 🔒 Graham attempts to purchase antimony to continue poisoning people, using a fake ID. 48:18: 📚 Graham's opinion on the war was unpopular among British World War II veterans, leading to potential consequences for him. 53:08: 🔍 The town of Hadlands experienced a high number of illnesses and deaths, which were initially attributed to a separate illness affecting local children. 58:10: 📚 Police discover an indoor garden and makeshift lab in Graham's room, along with a diary containing details of his experiments and victims. Recap by Tammy AI
I think Simon's Math ain't Mathin'!! Lol my grandma was born in 1940 too and I told her today she's only really 73 and she was soooo happy, she wanted to say thank you to Simon! 😂
Got into this channel about a month ago and I've binged every episode. I love the tangents and slow movement towards pro death penalty. Thank you Simon!
So you're telling me that Graham was loved and adored and loved and adored his caregivers and his father took him back from them (at a very important development age no less) to play happy families with his new wife? Uh, that's some trauma. To be ripped from the only parents you've ever known...yeesh.
I was coming to say this. I know the dad didn't mean to but he broke that little boy right at that moment. Of course this was back in the day when it was thought that... kids are resilant.. kids bounce back... kids will adjust and be fine.... now fortunately we know better.
Thank you! Reading through all these comments and no one mentioned this. He basically lost two mothers in less than 3 years in the most formidable parent-child connection time period. The human mind is powerful, but also fragile and attachment/detachment issues are a big deal for children. Some kids learn to cope, some kids lose themselves. And with the way mental health was looked at back in the day once they were lost many couldn’t make their way back 🙁 He might’ve been like a plant that was too far gone, and no amount of love watered was going to make him grow again. It sucks he went the murder route though. I’m sure at that time some military would have found his chemical skills useful.
I've asked for it a few times but would still like a video on Broadmoor itself. On how long it's been there, the impetus to build it, is it still in use etc...
Never apologize for loving your kids. One day, they will look back on these stories and the way you light up when you talk about th m and they will know how loved they are.
The part where Simon jokes about his co workers being friends with him and going for drinks, despite him being a full blown Nazi almost made me spew water on the screen.
Simon, I think that the story of Claude Dallas would make an excellent episode. You’ve got him killing game wardens, being hunted by the FBI while being aided/sheltered by locals, charming jurors at trial, and escaping from prison. It’s truly an unbelievable story. Think the Mad Trapper mixed with the inexplicable folk hero status of Chopper Read mixed with H.H. Holmes bizarre success wooing women.
TBH I’m really quite surprised he wasn’t caught earlier. Yes poison won’t be your first thought but if everyone at the job gets ridiculously sick every day at work, except the one very weird creepy guy who makes tea……..would think someone would be all, “what’s up with that?” Why isn’t he sick?”
I love hearing about your kids. I’m a parent too, and the brief moments of sweetness help with the bitter, dark episodes of creepy criminals. I hope “Dora” and “Jeff” are doing really well and you are having a fun summer together. I don’t know if Czechia has summer holidays like the U.K., but if so, hope you all get some time in your country house or on holidays or something fun :)
There's a book called, "The Poisoner's Handbook" that came out about Graham Young. Eventually movie was made about him. Very interesting and disturbing case.
I was wrong on the book title, but there is a book about him that the movie is based on in turn is based off of his notes. Read about him in my Forensics, Crimanalistics, and Forensic Psychology classes.
Awesome video as usual, as a veteran though, you’re right about the war thing, but I will say some people are willing to share there experience but you can’t force that out of someone, it has to be there choice… like I said awesome video, cheers from CA
Great video, I loved this episode. As a lifelong resident of Hemel Hempstead, the tale of the Bovingdon Poisoner (not Bevington) is a fascinating local story !
I actually love when Simon talks about his kids because we're close to the same age but my kids are slightly older than his so when he talks about his babies it reminds me of my own kids when they were babies.
Molly died of sudden gi distress and the coroner blames an old spinal injury and everyone's just ok with that!?! And this is after the sister was "accidentally" poisoned....
Hey Casual Criminalist Team! I think you all are wonderful. Thank you for making such great content. I mean the subject is horrible, but you make it bizarrely fun. Simon, don't change a thing!
Long time viewer, first time commentator - Back in the day, Michael Hunt was my science teacher, Ms Toon taught music, Barry Mundy 🐟 taught Math, Ms Pain was headmistress - 2nd year high school South Australia 🇦🇺
Yeah, Graham is good at making people think that he is perfectly fine. Medical professionals. Who are SUPPOSED to be able to detect these things. Graham: "Yes, I'm all good now. No poisoning for me. You're feeling sick? Well I am sorry about that but I'm fine!" Broadmoor Doctor: *Twitching, shaking, sweating, violently ill* "I am so glad you are okay Graham, you have made wonderful progress. You are a credit to yourself, I am honoured to have known you and seeing you make such progress! Now if you will excuse me, I am not feeling well. Hope you have great time out in the open world!" Graham: "Oh I will doc. I will. Especially if everyone is as much of a fuckwit as you!" Doctor: *Holding back vomit* "What was that?" Graham: "I hope everyone has as much wit as you" Doctor: *Clutching his stomach* "Oh you sweet boy, I am sure there are great things ahead of you" Graham: "I am am sure people will be speaking about me for years to come!"
I feel sorry for Graham's family. As a parent, if one of my kids turned out that way despite all the love, care, and concern I have for them, I would be absolutely devastated. What a horrible feeling it would be.
I usually rewatch CasCrim episodes many times but I have a small handful of ones I only make it through once and can never watch again. Albert Fish was one of them. 😩
The tragic thing about debtor's prison was that it was basically a death sentence. Some poor sod who's fallen on hard times could be dragged off to jail for missing a payment or w/e and ironically end up even *more* in debt during incarceration. You literally couldn't win. Also, old chemistry sets were _mental_ . Literally just giving children lead, paint thinners and all manner of unstable chemicals that did god knows what. There was even a fire in a cinema caused by a boy carrying a tube of something in his pocket that just *combusted* because his body heat triggered a chemical reaction.
Not to mention there were some that had radioactive elements like uranium, and those were only discontinued because the uranium was needed during the Cold War
That story is so crazy and how demonized Lorena was throughout the years was even more insane. The dude was a proven rapist and even did it years after again!
As someone who has many addiction problems. I had to stop going to the pubs and bars. Because of alcohol and pokies. One of the best decisions I ever made.
The only "trauma credit" I'll give Graham is that at that age hos aunt and uncle were the only parents that he'd really had. His dad then showed up and ripped him away from that because the stepmother was now in the picture. Probably why he hated her so much.
When my Mom and Uncle were kids in the 60s they went to a pharmacy and bought laxatives and baked them into brownies. They then sold them to other kids. It seems like things were more lax back then.
The Simon kids stories are my favorite. When my little brother was born, I was four. He was MY baby, according to me. Not my mom's, not my dad's, nobody's baby but mine. I wanted to take him everywhere, show him everything. He's my best friend and the best brother I could ever ask for. You might be turning 18 this year, bub, but you're always my baby brother.
I would like to see eric edgar cooke. serial killer in australia who was just a completely random killer. which made him quite hard to actually track him down
I would too, never heard of that one. I don’t think, as long as it doesn’t involve children, those ones are upsetting, and I try not to watch those ones, except I did the other day, and then I went on a mental tirade throughout the comment section. I suffer from PTSD and I shouldn’t be watching them at all, but I’m an idiot and still find some of them interesting. Much Love ❤️ from Australia 🇦🇺
Yeah, I’d like to hear more olden times Casual Criminalist stories, those are really interesting, especially since the facts may be less well known. It shows that people could be just as messed up in the distant past, they just didn’t have the 24 news cycle to broadcast it all. It would’ve been isolated to local news unless it was something really heinous.
Great script, I was like Simon. After the intro, I thought the story was about the 19th century doctor, lol. My heart goes out to this murder’s family. His sister and father seemed like good people.
Hi Simon 2 questions, when will the "definitely not my crimes notebook be released and have you ever considered making an episode about the sungym gang? I think you'd have a lot to day about them and I enjoy your stories and reactions the most, which is makes your channel so special. Thank you for your amazing content
I understand the diary. If you're doing something you consider worthy of praise, but know you can't tell anyone, writing it down is the second best thing. It's basically bragging without anyone knowing, the only way anyone could find out you wrote it down is if they've already caught you.
When Simon got to the part about Graham starting his diary, I physically facepalmed. If not for inept criminals, inept law enforcement and inept government would do us in.
Simon, give Dora and Jeff big hugs from everyone that appreciates your rants about your family(anyone who does not appreciate his family rants can suck a bellend) ❤ we love y'all Simon and crew
I'm only halfway through watching, so it may yet be mentioned, but to address the "How did he get all these chemicals?" question: 1) I remember watching a 90s movie about this called "The Young Poisoner's Handbook" or something. In it I remember something about him getting a job or volunteering at a camera/optics lab where they were using thallium to make special lenses? Maybe true, maybe just a plot device 2) 60s-70s chemistry was unhinged! I was too young to see it firsthand, but have heard some crazy stuff from relatives who did, like etching glass jars with hydrofluoric acid in high school, pharmacies selling chloroform, concentrated acids etc to minors. Look up the radioactive chemistry set that was sold back then!
Hey, everyone! I’m very excited to see this one finally make it to UA-cam. Thanks for all the support and kind words!
Thanks in advance Matthew, Simon and Jen. I know I wont be disappointed
thanks for your hard work researchibg theae cases! :)
You rock man!
Thanks Matthew! I'm excited to watch
Thanks MM.
Fun fact: One of the rare fictional books that Graham Young read was a book by Agatha Christie; The Pale Horse. In the book, is a realistic description of thalium poisoning and its effects. Graham started to use this poison instead of antimony. Unfortunately for Graham, a doctor working with Scotland Yard had also read the book and recognised the effects of thalium poisoning in Graham's victims.
See? Reading it both takes and saves lives lol
Put down the crack and crack a book instead.
Ooof
books on Botany and herbology are the best. With a college freshman level understanding of chemistry you can make medicine.....or poison. Your choice.
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Once, I saw a Scared Straight episode where the kids asked an inmate if snitches get stiches. The reply he gave haunts me decades later. "Stiches are for people who are alive."
Great line!
Effective!
Snitches get stitches, and sometimes they end up in ditches.
A few decades ago, my friends used the saying, "snitches are bitches who end up in ditches." No mention of stitches. As far as I know, none of them ever intentionally offed anyone though. Lol
Not being able to say Hitler on an educational channel is utterly insane.
Totally agree. The censorship on UA-cam is truly ridiculous.
What's the world come to when you can't even insult _actual nazis_ I mean, are they gonna sue us? WTF UA-cam!
It's all paid for by advertisers and they make the demands on what they want next to their brand. I just hope it doesnt demoralise Simon to the point he'd retire this channel, as it's easily his best.
It’s weird you can’t said Hitler but you can Josef Mengele….
Just do what the Three Stooges did and refer to him as “Schickelgruber”
The whole reason I love Casual Criminalist is because Simon shares about himself and his thoughts. I feel like this is one of the few channels that displays genuine un-scripted empathy.
I love the way he does his whole shoe sponsorship, when he's like what do u want me to say?
I like it when the creator is relatable.
But it is 100% scripted....I mean it's enjoyable but don't say it's unscripted.
A doctor at the Mayo Clinic thought I was heavy metal poisoning my wife… in 2014 she got mysteriously sick after experiencing a mild concussion. Her primary care physician couldn’t find anything nor could any of our local specialists, so we got a referral to the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota. When you schedule an exploratory appointment at the Mayo, they pack 2-3 days with dozens of appointments and test and scans and blood draws, and you’ll meet daily with a doctor that manages your care while you’re there. After day 2, the main doctor paused half way through the appointment and started asking questions about me and my work and then we left and got a notification that there was a new blood draw appointment that had been added to the schedule. The appointment lists always detail what tests they’re going to run, so I saw that they were looking at heavy metal poisoning, which came back negative. At the discharge appointment the doctor was like “yeah, sorry. You never know…”
That's the sort of attention to detail you want out of medical professionals. There's nothing personal there, they're covering all the bases. Because as much as 99.999% of people aren't poisoning their partner, there's always a possibility. Also could be accidental!
Good job, that doctor.
"really awesome you didn't poison your wife , no hard feelings!" A bit anemic that yeah sorry from the doctor.
@@misaamane7425 Because they *have to make sure.* Do you know how many people have *died* because no one thought to test the mysteriously ill patient for heavy metal poisoning?
Sorry always seems the hardest word. Goodbye, my love.
I'm sorry to hear you had to deal with such accusations at a time that must have already been very stressful given your wife's illness, although I hope you could take some relief/gratitude in the doctor's thoroughness.
Personally, Simon, I love when you talk about your kids (and I don’t blame you for giving them aliases). It’s so beautiful and heartwarming, and it provides just the right levity for a true crime show.
Oh my gosh absolutely!! I'm not really interested in having kids myself but I love hearing Simon talk about his kids
Absolutely agree!
Creepy. With talk like this, it's no wonder he gives hids kids aliases. The show is often about Ring and Fing Kids. It seems a bit weird that you want him to talk about his kids while you watch these stories about child R'ing, M'ing, and F'ing kids.
@@VidMashUp Are there mental people like that out there? Absolutely. Does wanting to hear Simon share stories about his kids as a way to bring some levity and light-heartedness to a dark story mean you're one of those mental people? Not a chance in hell. I love his tangents, whether he's talking about his kids, family, or anything else he says that isn't in the script because it's usually a bit of light and humour. This episode in particular, the story itself is pretty dark but Simon goes off script almost every other sentence and makes it a fun experience.
Basically, stop thinking the worst in people under the slightest, or even 0, evidence to back it up. And giving your kids aliases is just smart and courteous, as realistically you should give anyone who hasn't said you can talk about them on camera an alias.
@@KingMuttley I said it was smart. But I'm not the creeper who said I come to Simon's true crime documentaries specifically to hear about his children. It's entertaining - he has an incredible amount of charisma and just about anything that comes out of his mouth is entertaining. At this point, I've seen so much of his content (possibly all of it), that I look forward to new videos coming out. I love Simon, I love his podcasts, and I think his stories about his kids are great. But I remember him saying once that it's a bit weird when people on here are really interested in his children. Like people that know when his children's birthdays are and send him an email to wish them a happy birthday. I think it's 100% fine and normal for him to joke around about his kids. I just don't think it's fine and normal for people in the comments in an adult-oriented true crime show to be bringing up the host's kids. Out of the hundreds of thousands of people that see this, what percentage will be weirdos? 1% of 500,000 people maybe? So you think that it's cool for 5,000 ped******s to be here talking about his kids? And don't say there are zero ped******s, ra****s, and mu******s lurking on here because that's just not realistic. It's just weird. He doesn't bring them up so other people can talk about them publicly. That is just super-creepy regardless of what you say. And we will never know if the OP is one of those 1%, nor should we care. But in acknowledging that, we have to acknowledge that some topics that Simon talks about in his personal life are not fodder for conversation among that 1%. Because if we think that's OK, then society has some real problems.
You completely misread my comment, somehow thinking I was against Simon Giving his kids aliases. I said just the opposite. That it's SMART because of the creepers loitering in the comments.
Omg Simon don't ever stop talking about your kids, I just want a compilation of Simon gushing over his kids. It makes me smile to hear parents talk about their kids because that's how you know they just love their kids
I agree. While children are in no way easy to deal with, it’s refreshing to hear an adult who doesn’t constantly whinge on about how insufferable their children are.
It makes the dark stories easier when he shines the light of the love he has for his family, it reminds us that there are good, happy people in the world.
Totally.
Petition for Simon to continue referring to his children as Jeff and Dora
Only if his daughter is Jeff and his son is Dora!!🤣🤣🤣
@@piperjaycie😅
I'm one of those who actually loves hearing your little stories about your life and your kids. They can substantially mitigate the (very interesting, and fascinating) horrors you're reading about.
5:05
Yeah...
So when our oldest was born, I called our insurance company to get a list of suggested doctors in our area. We interviewed a few and one was just super laid back and chill, didn’t mind taking his time talking to us, etc, so that's the one we went with.
We ended up moving out of the area a few years later
About 2 years ago he assaulted a woman at a high school football game (American football) while he was on duty as a volunteer police officer and it came out that he was just so messed up on opioids that he didn't know what was going on.
While on duty. Around kids.
Turns out that when our insurance company had recommended him to us 15 years prior, they knew he had issues around addiction *because he had already been convicted* the state medical board had let him continue working as a pediatrician, so our insurance company didn't bother to tell us.
Also, he had apparently assaulted other women at these football games before, but no one at the police station believed the women.
It took him almost raping a "respectable" woman for the local PD to take notice. Once his history of sexual violence came out, the local medical board was like "yeah, actually, even though we've known about his addiction issues for almost 20 years, and he's been censored by the board no fewer than *3 times* , I guess we're finally going to do something about it." And revoked his license.
And this was all in the 21st century.
So no, I dont think they would have to investigate in the 19th century because, as we all know, the past is the worst.
By coincidence just last night I watched a Four Corners (Australian investigative journalist show) about this in Australia and it doesn’t seem much better here. I’m a doctor here and as much as the thought of even more regulation is not exactly welcome there needs to be at least as much (if not more) as there is for teachers etc.
And believing victims. Because that’s a whole other thing in itself.
Absolutely wild
"Respectable" ... as in the PD *did* belive that the doctor had s-x with them, but refused to believe that they weren't consenting to it...
Absolutely disgusting
Damn. That's scary.
People who don't want to hear about your kids can listen to some other show ... it's part of why we love it!
Honestly, I think your tangents, especially those about your kids, are part of what makes this show so great.
Simon, talking about you and your family helps alleviate some of the heaviness of some of these episodes. Keep doing it
I love hearing about your kids. What's really cool is watching you as a very young man in your super early videos to when you become a very mature man with children.
Never stop your tangents, Simon. They make this channel so special. And never stop your stories about your kids. They help prove there is still light in the world.
Having knowing about this case I was looking forward to Simons reaction after he asked "why isn't this the end?"
Young Poisoners Handbook is an OUTSTANDING movie! Super excited for this episode!
Simon, I really enjoy listening about your kids. Hearing about your involvement with them, your candid comments and then witnessing your relative calmness regarding how you react to her, like getting up at 5:30, since Dora is awake. This is so refreshing, compared to what would of happened in past generations, including mine, especially if we woke up our fathers that early 😊!
Thank you, Matt, Jen, and Simon for always having great videos 😊.
My mother's generation. Father's didn't do what Simon does with parenting. While I don't have kids, I love hearing about his in a safe way for them. We can tell his love for them.
@@jedijessicmy dad is 87 and yes he changed out nappies, cooked dinner and we could always jump on him in the wee hours (unless it was sunday and mum forbade it). They were ground breaking in many ways. My mum returned to school and then work as we started school, with that we learnt that men and women have to pull their weight together. My brother was taught ironing (not really needed now) and cooking etc so he wouldn't be dependent on a woman and I was taught flat tyres and mowing lawns etc so I wouldn't be dependent on a man. It was great and all the kids in the neighbourhood loved our place and my parents were role models for a lot of kids in how a "trad" life is not the only life. 💜
@@bunyipdragon9499 Your dad sounds great. Came from a single parent house hold. My mother has never driven, I'm lucky to do so but I can't change a tire. Thankfully had little reason to know.
Matthew, Simon, and Jen always do a fantastic job, thank you for your effort!
I think I’ve heard of this case but not in depth
What about Callum!
Was familiar but wanted to see Simon's handling too :)
Except Jen included a card that spelled psychiatric with a qu.
One reason why I enjoy this channel is everything about your delivery.😁😁😁😁 Thanks for this and Brain Blaze.
To be fair to those around young Graham Young, his obvious obsession with chemistry, forensics, and the like wouldn't necessarily be alarming. I absorbed pretty much everything I could about detectives and espionage in grade school. Spent a *lot* of time at the library learning how to track suspects, make disguises, and secure my room against intruders. Watched a lot of spy shows as a kid, too. Growing up at the tail end of the Cold War was *interesting.*
I had an interest in these things as well, but I have to say that they are not completely the same..I mean, being into spies, agents and or film heroes/even violent war or crime shows is not really an opportunity for a kid to literally sell national secrets, go undercover or perform drops to the other side because he is a double agent of sorts..Pretty more alarming to be consumed by death, torture and the ideas of not only genocidal monsters, but literal murderes poisioning people...Alarm bells and whistles should have surrounded this boy/man every step he took and never be allowed to touch or handle any source of sustenance in prison/Broadmoor....
That was a fing ride of a story! It does make me happy when the killer's document their crimes. It reminds me that no matter how sneaky someone wants to be hubris always wins
I enjoy it much more when simon shares things about his kids and family, truly makes the script better and makes it so it doesn't feel like its a robot talking to us. Extra bonus point for always being good stories!
Terrible as this man was, this story is a breath of fresh air after the last one 😩
That one was a doozie for sure
Couldn't finish the last one.
I'm about halfway through that one... that's a fucking struggle
Amen!
I’ve got 3 hours left on my shift and I’ve just queued up that ep to play after this one… should I be worried?
I love it when you talk about your kids. The Good Doctor, however is the portrayal of an autistic man who becomes a surgeon. That scene is a remarkably heartbreaking portrayal of the difficulties he faces every day.
Caught another one early again! Everyone did a wonderful job as always! Take care everyone
9:35 - Chapter 1 - The little devil
26:15 - Chapter 2 - A death in the family
31:50 - Chapter 3 - Broadmore
38:40 - Chapter 4 - Welcome home, mister psycho
52:50 - Chapter 5 - Exterminating the bug
1:01:30 - Dismembered appendices
Legend!
0:10: 🔍 The Casual Christmas discusses the case of the Teacup Poisoners, specifically Graham Young, an English poisoner known as the Bloody Teacup Poisoner.
5:32: 🤔 Dr. Palmer attempted to sabotage the tests during Cook's post-mortem examination and tried to bribe the coroner.
10:17: 😢 The video discusses the life and family of a person born in 1947 in North London.
15:05: ! Graham became obsessed with poison and wanted to experiment on people to feel the power of taking a life.
19:38: 💣 Graham, also known as The Mad Scientist, used his chemistry set to make explosives and conducted experiments on living people.
24:16: 🍵 A woman named Winifred unknowingly drank tea laced with a poisonous plant, causing hallucinations and hospitalization.
29:04: 🔍 Graham poisons Frederick with antimony, but is caught when an astute doctor discovers the metal poisoning.
33:46: 🔍 Graham falsely confesses to poisoning a patient using cyanide from laurel bushes at a psychiatric hospital.
38:59: 😬 Graham's sister welcomed him into her home after his release from Broadmoor, hoping he had truly reformed, but quickly realized he still had unresolved issues.
43:47: 🔒 Graham attempts to purchase antimony to continue poisoning people, using a fake ID.
48:18: 📚 Graham's opinion on the war was unpopular among British World War II veterans, leading to potential consequences for him.
53:08: 🔍 The town of Hadlands experienced a high number of illnesses and deaths, which were initially attributed to a separate illness affecting local children.
58:10: 📚 Police discover an indoor garden and makeshift lab in Graham's room, along with a diary containing details of his experiments and victims.
Recap by Tammy AI
Thanks for saving my time! lovely summary with useful time stamps! where you get this tool Tammy AI?
Thank u so much for making these videos, please don’t ever change & gods bless every1.
I think Simon's Math ain't Mathin'!! Lol my grandma was born in 1940 too and I told her today she's only really 73 and she was soooo happy, she wanted to say thank you to Simon! 😂
How wholesome 😄
And here she'd been thinking she was in her 80s for a few years, right? 😂
Got into this channel about a month ago and I've binged every episode. I love the tangents and slow movement towards pro death penalty. Thank you Simon!
Drinking tea and listening to this.
So you're telling me that Graham was loved and adored and loved and adored his caregivers and his father took him back from them (at a very important development age no less) to play happy families with his new wife?
Uh, that's some trauma. To be ripped from the only parents you've ever known...yeesh.
I was coming to say this. I know the dad didn't mean to but he broke that little boy right at that moment. Of course this was back in the day when it was thought that... kids are resilant.. kids bounce back... kids will adjust and be fine.... now fortunately we know better.
Thank you! Reading through all these comments and no one mentioned this. He basically lost two mothers in less than 3 years in the most formidable parent-child connection time period. The human mind is powerful, but also fragile and attachment/detachment issues are a big deal for children. Some kids learn to cope, some kids lose themselves. And with the way mental health was looked at back in the day once they were lost many couldn’t make their way back 🙁
He might’ve been like a plant that was too far gone, and no amount of love watered was going to make him grow again. It sucks he went the murder route though. I’m sure at that time some military would have found his chemical skills useful.
I've asked for it a few times but would still like a video on Broadmoor itself. On how long it's been there, the impetus to build it, is it still in use etc...
There is a very good non fiction book. "Broadmoor revealed" i think
You're right. I just looked it up. It's by Mark Stevens. @@i.b.640
Just found your channels Very easy to listen too. Just going to binge watch 🙂 Keep doing you you and your team are Fab.
Never apologize for loving your kids. One day, they will look back on these stories and the way you light up when you talk about th m and they will know how loved they are.
The part where Simon jokes about his co workers being friends with him and going for drinks, despite him being a full blown Nazi almost made me spew water on the screen.
Oh wow. Simon hasn't done Graham Young? This one is mad interesting! Let's goooo
Please do an episode on Rosemary Ndlovu. The South African serial killer that targeted family members. Siblings, cousins, her own kids, etc
We'll die laughing at Simon's pronunciation. Ilse will needed to give him a how to pronounce crib sheet!
Simon, I think that the story of Claude Dallas would make an excellent episode. You’ve got him killing game wardens, being hunted by the FBI while being aided/sheltered by locals, charming jurors at trial, and escaping from prison. It’s truly an unbelievable story. Think the Mad Trapper mixed with the inexplicable folk hero status of Chopper Read mixed with H.H. Holmes bizarre success wooing women.
TBH I’m really quite surprised he wasn’t caught earlier. Yes poison won’t be your first thought but if everyone at the job gets ridiculously sick every day at work, except the one very weird creepy guy who makes tea……..would think someone would be all, “what’s up with that?” Why isn’t he sick?”
They got sick individually
I love hearing about your kids. I’m a parent too, and the brief moments of sweetness help with the bitter, dark episodes of creepy criminals.
I hope “Dora” and “Jeff” are doing really well and you are having a fun summer together. I don’t know if Czechia has summer holidays like the U.K., but if so, hope you all get some time in your country house or on holidays or something fun :)
Simon in my opinion your video editor is the best on youtube.
They’re alright. On par with everyone else. Pretty standard. Sometimes it’s too forced. 😂😂
Who TF wants Simon to stop talking about his kids?! We stan the Mini Whistlers.
Simon is the greatest, I get a chuckle every time 😂😂😂
I love the visual effects in these videos. She even used a snippet of a kitten named Minnow in a fake shark head. Well done Jen!!!
A nine and a half minutes intro, you know it's going to be an amazing episode.
Simon you can talk about your kids all you want! I love hearing about them. ❤
Who ever edits these you make my day. 😂😂😂😂 those clips they put in makes it easier to watch about horrible crimes. 😂😂😂 loving it
the Good Doctor meme reference made me bust out laughing lmao
Same, my husband asked what I'm laughing at, as though I could possibly explain 😂
Keep the kids stories coming! We love them!!
Jen's sass never gets old.😂❤
The glasses sparkle at 7:25 has to become the profile pic for one of Simon’s channels, it’s too good.
There's a book called, "The Poisoner's Handbook" that came out about Graham Young. Eventually movie was made about him. Very interesting and disturbing case.
I've actually seen that movie and you're right it was interesting and disturbing. I was going mention the movie too.
I was wrong on the book title, but there is a book about him that the movie is based on in turn is based off of his notes.
Read about him in my Forensics, Crimanalistics, and Forensic Psychology classes.
@@KyMcAnnoudhThe Poisoner's Handbook is also a great book though!
Awesome video as usual, as a veteran though, you’re right about the war thing, but I will say some people are willing to share there experience but you can’t force that out of someone, it has to be there choice… like I said awesome video, cheers from CA
I believe I speak for everyone when I say we need whistleboy to keep talking about his kids because he just seems so happy when he does!
Great video, I loved this episode. As a lifelong resident of Hemel Hempstead, the tale of the Bovingdon Poisoner (not Bevington) is a fascinating local story !
I personally love hearing Simon's stories about his kids ❤️
I actually love when Simon talks about his kids because we're close to the same age but my kids are slightly older than his so when he talks about his babies it reminds me of my own kids when they were babies.
Molly died of sudden gi distress and the coroner blames an old spinal injury and everyone's just ok with that!?! And this is after the sister was "accidentally" poisoned....
Hindsight. On the spot it is not always easy to understand whats happening.
Hey Casual Criminalist Team! I think you all are wonderful. Thank you for making such great content. I mean the subject is horrible, but you make it bizarrely fun. Simon, don't change a thing!
"I wouldn't poison my lawyer" is quite simply, a beautiful piece of English.
Long time viewer, first time commentator - Back in the day, Michael Hunt was my science teacher, Ms Toon taught music, Barry Mundy 🐟 taught Math, Ms Pain was headmistress -
2nd year high school South Australia 🇦🇺
Cracking episode that, loved it
Yeah, Graham is good at making people think that he is perfectly fine. Medical professionals. Who are SUPPOSED to be able to detect these things.
Graham: "Yes, I'm all good now. No poisoning for me. You're feeling sick? Well I am sorry about that but I'm fine!"
Broadmoor Doctor: *Twitching, shaking, sweating, violently ill* "I am so glad you are okay Graham, you have made wonderful progress. You are a credit to yourself, I am honoured to have known you and seeing you make such progress! Now if you will excuse me, I am not feeling well. Hope you have great time out in the open world!"
Graham: "Oh I will doc. I will. Especially if everyone is as much of a fuckwit as you!"
Doctor: *Holding back vomit* "What was that?"
Graham: "I hope everyone has as much wit as you"
Doctor: *Clutching his stomach* "Oh you sweet boy, I am sure there are great things ahead of you"
Graham: "I am am sure people will be speaking about me for years to come!"
"Wow Past, get your shit together."
Made me laugh a lot.
"come on past, get your shit together!" I think it is to late for the past. 😂 Love it!
I feel sorry for Graham's family. As a parent, if one of my kids turned out that way despite all the love, care, and concern I have for them, I would be absolutely devastated. What a horrible feeling it would be.
Good to see a CasCrim episode be monetized. Keep it going.
Love this channel! Matthew will do a great work and hopefully this will be less horrible than last time with albert 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Right, I'm still recovering from Albert!
Oh, it is definitely less gruesome by every measure imaginable.
@@MatthewMarcum Thanks!
I actually had to bail on Albert... first time ever. Sorry I missed the last 1.5 hrs of Script, Read and editorial Excellence
I usually rewatch CasCrim episodes many times but I have a small handful of ones I only make it through once and can never watch again. Albert Fish was one of them. 😩
The tragic thing about debtor's prison was that it was basically a death sentence. Some poor sod who's fallen on hard times could be dragged off to jail for missing a payment or w/e and ironically end up even *more* in debt during incarceration. You literally couldn't win.
Also, old chemistry sets were _mental_ . Literally just giving children lead, paint thinners and all manner of unstable chemicals that did god knows what. There was even a fire in a cinema caused by a boy carrying a tube of something in his pocket that just *combusted* because his body heat triggered a chemical reaction.
Not to mention there were some that had radioactive elements like uranium, and those were only discontinued because the uranium was needed during the Cold War
I suggest an episode about Lorena and John Bobbitt. Would love to see Simon's reaction to that!
That story is so crazy and how demonized Lorena was throughout the years was even more insane. The dude was a proven rapist and even did it years after again!
@@rationallyruby I agree! I really think Simon and his team could do the story some justice
As someone who has many addiction problems. I had to stop going to the pubs and bars. Because of alcohol and pokies. One of the best decisions I ever made.
Good for you! Keep it going.
I'm sorry but the memes are *chef's kiss* on point in this video.
Hes experiencing the full story for the first time with us which adds so much
“Did he kill himself in his dream and it became real” had me rolling lolol
Simon has 2 kids that are similar ages of mine, so I think it's nice to hear about them growing up as I see my own kids do the same ❤
The only "trauma credit" I'll give Graham is that at that age hos aunt and uncle were the only parents that he'd really had. His dad then showed up and ripped him away from that because the stepmother was now in the picture. Probably why he hated her so much.
When my Mom and Uncle were kids in the 60s they went to a pharmacy and bought laxatives and baked them into brownies. They then sold them to other kids. It seems like things were more lax back then.
The Simon kids stories are my favorite. When my little brother was born, I was four. He was MY baby, according to me. Not my mom's, not my dad's, nobody's baby but mine. I wanted to take him everywhere, show him everything. He's my best friend and the best brother I could ever ask for.
You might be turning 18 this year, bub, but you're always my baby brother.
I'm listening as I go to sleep but i had to let you guys know that 6:59 and "I am a surgeon" literally woke me up laughing. I love it.
I've always loved the casual criminalist but. Thiss is the first time listening to it with earphones and it just got a hundred times better lol
While abuse is obvious, we typically aren't aware of Emotional Neglect, and how insidious and awful it can be.
I would like to see eric edgar cooke. serial killer in australia who was just a completely random killer. which made him quite hard to actually track him down
I would too, never heard of that one. I don’t think, as long as it doesn’t involve children, those ones are upsetting, and I try not to watch those ones, except I did the other day, and then I went on a mental tirade throughout the comment section. I suffer from PTSD and I shouldn’t be watching them at all, but I’m an idiot and still find some of them interesting. Much Love ❤️ from Australia 🇦🇺
As my dear uncle Bob, late of his Majesty’s Navy, would’ve said:
“… and let’s not mention the war.”
Thanks
Yeah, I’d like to hear more olden times Casual Criminalist stories, those are really interesting, especially since the facts may be less well known. It shows that people could be just as messed up in the distant past, they just didn’t have the 24 news cycle to broadcast it all. It would’ve been isolated to local news unless it was something really heinous.
I think that we as a whole are very lucky that egomania tends to run in serial offenders. The desire for recognition is often what gets them caught.
The Little Devil at 9:30
A Death in the Family at 26:13
Broadmoor At 31:47
Welcome Home, Mister Psycho at 38:35
Exterminating the Bug at 52:44
OOOOI I suggested this at some point I'm SOOO EXCITEDDD I want to see simon's utter confusionnn
Great script, I was like Simon. After the intro, I thought the story was about the 19th century doctor, lol. My heart goes out to this murder’s family. His sister and father seemed like good people.
You mentioned Warographics. So I'm taking this comment to ask about the possibility of a Warographics episode on the Geneva Conventions.
Hi Simon 2 questions, when will the "definitely not my crimes notebook be released and have you ever considered making an episode about the sungym gang? I think you'd have a lot to day about them and I enjoy your stories and reactions the most, which is makes your channel so special. Thank you for your amazing content
I understand the diary. If you're doing something you consider worthy of praise, but know you can't tell anyone, writing it down is the second best thing. It's basically bragging without anyone knowing, the only way anyone could find out you wrote it down is if they've already caught you.
The Nazi's also ruined the term "Aryan," and that's why scientific communities say "Proto-Indo-European."
When Simon got to the part about Graham starting his diary, I physically facepalmed. If not for inept criminals, inept law enforcement and inept government would do us in.
Jen is a legend 💯
Simon, give Dora and Jeff big hugs from everyone that appreciates your rants about your family(anyone who does not appreciate his family rants can suck a bellend) ❤ we love y'all Simon and crew
I'm only halfway through watching, so it may yet be mentioned, but to address the "How did he get all these chemicals?" question:
1) I remember watching a 90s movie about this called "The Young Poisoner's Handbook" or something. In it I remember something about him getting a job or volunteering at a camera/optics lab where they were using thallium to make special lenses? Maybe true, maybe just a plot device
2) 60s-70s chemistry was unhinged! I was too young to see it firsthand, but have heard some crazy stuff from relatives who did, like etching glass jars with hydrofluoric acid in high school, pharmacies selling chloroform, concentrated acids etc to minors. Look up the radioactive chemistry set that was sold back then!