I was wrong about Chinese lenses...

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  • @nozra_z
    @nozra_z 7 місяців тому +26

    Sony a7iii user here. My lenses lineup consist of Tamron lenses and a laowa 100mm f2.8 macro. I've never owned a Sony lens but I know my camera's performance. I've shot for over 70 clients and approx 1,500 photo ads and 40 cinematic videos and I, nor my clients, complained about the quality of the content.

  • @jacquesvroom
    @jacquesvroom 7 місяців тому +90

    Thrilled with my Viltrox 75 and 27 1.2’s. They coexist quite happily with their “more serious” GM, G, Sigma Art, and Sigma Contemporary step-siblings. Best to all.

    • @SPECTRA890
      @SPECTRA890 7 місяців тому

      How is the sharpness in comparison
      Plain scale of 1 - 5
      Where sony sharp g master is a 4

    • @caleidoo
      @caleidoo 7 місяців тому +2

      @@SPECTRA890 Why bother? So many reviews and full size samples to be find everywhere. Seeing it with your own eyes surely has more value than a random person just saying "it's sharp bro". For example: ua-cam.com/video/OhF8zI0KiHw/v-deo.html Summary: very good. But too heavy or for my liking, I prefer my lenses small and manual on APS-C.

    • @TheJ_G
      @TheJ_G 7 місяців тому

      @@SPECTRA890The 75 and 27 on my Fuji xh2/xh2s are two of the sharpest lenses I’ve ever used on Fuji. So much so that I sold my Fuji 23 and 33 1.4 because the 27 out performed them both in overall image quality.

    • @_shreyash_anand
      @_shreyash_anand 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@SPECTRA890 At least a 3.5. They are stupid sharp, especially for the price. Really happy with my 27mm too

    • @crazyphotobooth
      @crazyphotobooth 7 місяців тому

      Where or how did you buy from?

  • @BurneraccountXD69
    @BurneraccountXD69 7 місяців тому +67

    If you forced me to chose, I'd probably say Lawoa is my favorite manufacturer of Lenses like full stop. Their entire company is pretty much just built around making lenses that nobody else makes and I really respect them for that. And that's ignoring the fact their lenes are built extremely well too!

    • @lucadipaolo1997
      @lucadipaolo1997 7 місяців тому +3

      Not really the same thing but I really like Sirui. Their Jupiter lenses are really good and well priced, and every lens of theirs that I used was well built with good optical performance, and even though the anamorphics aren't perfect, they do the job quite well for the money.

    • @valdemarjrgensen8072
      @valdemarjrgensen8072 7 місяців тому +5

      Laowa is so great. I had their 15mm macro. A freaking 15mm macro, it didn't have to be super good image quality to beat the competition, there is no competition. It takes such unique images, and it still has excellent IQ.

    • @DraculaNosferatu123
      @DraculaNosferatu123 7 місяців тому

      I have the 65mm macro 2x excellent build and image quality with small.

    • @dougsmit1
      @dougsmit1 7 місяців тому

      I agree Laowa is great but the idea nobody else makes similar products is old news and not as true as it was a couple years ago. Some of the latest products from other companies join Laowa in making excellent super wide (9mm for full frame), macro and cine lenses. I agree that Laowa is probably my favorite but I'd rather have a 2024 design from one of their competitors than a five year old Laowa made first for long back focus DSLR's. Time are changing. It will be interesting to see who gets left behind.

    • @yuxuanhuang3523
      @yuxuanhuang3523 7 місяців тому

      ​@@lucadipaolo1997
      Actually Sirui is one of the biggest tripod makers. They just started making lenses a few years ago and I heard their anamorphic work really well considering they are priced around a normal lens of similar specs.
      For Laowa, its all about making crazy specs and shapes nobody else makes. Like super wide but not fisheye, or super macro and most famously the probe lens.
      TT Artisan and the rest of those small manual lenses work, but barely. Most still lack good coating so ghosting is a problem. and they are not the sharpest (even primes aren't)
      YongNuo is now creating really good autofocus ones that are really well priced, and really budget autofocus lenses like the plastic 50 1.8(they even made one for for RF mount)
      Edit: Viltrox may be the one making really good primes (both performance and build quality), not yongnuo, which is mostly budget autofocus that works.

  • @feederbrian9457
    @feederbrian9457 7 місяців тому +40

    I have a TTArtisan 50mm f/0.95. It’s “inspired” by the legendary Leica Noctilux. Manual focus, excellent build quality, metal cap.
    Performance-wise, every reviewer agrees it’s about 80% of the Noctilux… but for 8% of the price. Wide open is not sharp, but stopped down it develops beautifully, with gorgeous color rendition and can show excellent detail even on the highest resolution sensor.
    One of my absolute favorite lenses for sure.

    • @Broken_Orbital
      @Broken_Orbital 7 місяців тому +1

      I have the 35mm version..mounted to an A7SII, you can damn near see in the pitch black haha

    • @Russell7
      @Russell7 3 місяці тому

      Inspired? You mean a bad cheap copy like everything from China.

  • @jordanmitchell1433
    @jordanmitchell1433 7 місяців тому +138

    Something I like about you and your channel Jared is that you aren't afraid to admit that you were wrong (which isn't too often IMO), and you offer yourself sufficient praise when you are right. Keep up the great vids

    • @gregoryz6545
      @gregoryz6545 7 місяців тому +1

      He’s said in the past that he never reads the comments

    • @victahh281
      @victahh281 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@gregoryz6545 I'm sure he does to an extent, since he reacts to and replies to a few.

    • @jordanmitchell1433
      @jordanmitchell1433 7 місяців тому

      @@victahh281 I agree, unless Steven or Dan go through it and tell him ones that might stir him up 😂

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  7 місяців тому +7

      @@gregoryz6545 Yes I do, just not all of course

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  7 місяців тому +5

      @@victahh281 Yup

  • @gregmarcus3064
    @gregmarcus3064 7 місяців тому +13

    TT Artisans 25mm F2 pancake that is all over You Tube. I took the risk since it was cheap. I was shocked that it was sharper overall than my adapted vintage Nikon and Canon lenses on my XE2. The pictures are crisp and sharp. The feel of turning the focusing ring is very smooth and the aperture rings are click smooth too. F8 set at 1.5m, Auto ISO and your camera becomes a point and shoot. Totally surprised. 😮

  • @zaddy6960
    @zaddy6960 7 місяців тому +37

    The build and IQ of the TTArtisan 50mm 1.2 is absurdly good. The Viltrox 27mm 1.2 will be known as a legendary lens.

    • @mongini1
      @mongini1 7 місяців тому +1

      100% agree on the 27mm 1.2 - just got it last week, and its glued to my camera. And i'll never stop it down except for maybe landscape shots.

    • @nomadikmind3979
      @nomadikmind3979 7 місяців тому +2

      Yes i love my 50mm f1.2, and for 100 bucks....freaking crazy

    • @mongini1
      @mongini1 7 місяців тому

      @Mike1984-lc9rh I'd bet that you won't be able to tell if you're looking at a 1.2 GM or the Viltrox Pro lenses if you shoot both on an APS-C body and zoom to 100%.

    • @TK421-53
      @TK421-53 7 місяців тому

      @Mike1984-lc9rhyou are missing the point. The TTartisan 50/1.2 is an all metal manual focus APSC lens, it doesn’t compete with the Sony, but that’s not what it is trying to do. However it is less straightforward if you compare it to something that is more similar like a Voigtlander. This TTartisan lens is absurdly good for the price and for those who like its character it is simply a nice lens. The Viltrox 27/1.2 and 75/1.2 APSC lenses are not cheap, but still more affordable than the competition and both are pretty exceptional for the price.

  • @WrongEnd
    @WrongEnd 7 місяців тому +74

    Viltrox is up to the game now, their 75mm 1.2 for apsc is a masterpiece

    • @OnlyCitrus
      @OnlyCitrus 7 місяців тому +10

      Their 13, 27, 75, 16 are some of the best lenses out there

    • @mongini1
      @mongini1 7 місяців тому +6

      got the 75mm since release - its the best for portraits hands down.
      since last week the 27mm also went into my bag, or better onto my X-H2, and its glued to it. That focal length is so damn versatile and sharp from 1.2 just like the 75. Can recommend as well.

    • @Ton-x4r
      @Ton-x4r 7 місяців тому +3

      ​​@@mongini1Indeed the 27mm is perfect for anything. Will ad the 75mm also soon. Viltrox needs to be a expand this Pro line with more lenses. They need to make a 10mm or something.

    • @mongini1
      @mongini1 7 місяців тому

      @@Ton-x4r would love to see a 56mm pro tbh. and the real killer lens would be a 16-50 f2 - i'd happily spend a grand or more if its like the pro primes...

    • @BusterMcFlea
      @BusterMcFlea 7 місяців тому +2

      Why does it surprise you? I know the US has a thing about China but Apple products are made there so why the reservations? Don’t know about Sirui lenses but if they’re anything like their accessories (tripods, ballheads, monopods) they’ll be full on quality.

  • @snickile1576
    @snickile1576 11 днів тому +1

    1:10 bowling made me excited

  • @DalsPhotography-Daniela
    @DalsPhotography-Daniela 7 місяців тому +1

    Hi from Uruguay dear Jared ( I have been your follower for many years) and yes, those lenses have really improved! Living in southamerica and having huge taxes on importing them, there was no other chance than to use 3rd party lenses! Sigma and Tamron are the more used down here. You can still find those Yongnuo for sale ! I have used a lot of lenses!!! As I moved to Fuji xt, the Laowa lenses are great for that camera. Those are my prefered ones! Thanks for addressing those lenses!!!

  • @Jason_Hermann
    @Jason_Hermann 7 місяців тому +3

    Great video Jared and yeah, I love the "Butter Maker" Viltrox 75mm f/1.2, 27mm f/1.2, and the 13mm f/1.4 in particular, but I recently tested the new 7artisans 50mm f/1.8 full frame lens and it is also an excellent option "optically" for the money, but build could be better...

  • @BoostLeekdMedia
    @BoostLeekdMedia 7 місяців тому +1

    5:18 - 100% agreed.
    Those Chinese lenses have gotten a lot better the past 4-5 years. I've been advocating for cheap lenses for beginners, especially when EVERY photographer I know (personally) has been suggesting $800+ lenses to beginners.
    Great video, Fro!

  • @hugdeez
    @hugdeez 7 місяців тому +38

    Chinese brands are keeping photography alive right now.

    • @harveymanfrantinsingin7373
      @harveymanfrantinsingin7373 7 місяців тому +1

      Lol…😂
      Oh…you’re being serious?!

    • @nasty5-oh893
      @nasty5-oh893 7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah great time for beginners, I wish I had all these gears, I hate camera snobs

    • @hellolau
      @hellolau 7 місяців тому +1

      Lol 😂

    • @harveymanfrantinsingin7373
      @harveymanfrantinsingin7373 7 місяців тому

      @@nasty5-oh893 it has nothing to do with snobs or those who are not snobs. The fact of the matter is, cheap Chinese gear has its place however it is NOT what is “keeping photography alive!”

  • @haronforteau2842
    @haronforteau2842 7 місяців тому +4

    I've bought the Meike 85 mm 1.8 for EF Mount and the quality is good and sharp. Build quality is solid metal and plastic. Only issues is that the autofocus is a bit loud. Shooting wide open has chroma and minimum focus distance is 3 feet but I've been able to get great results with it, plus it has taken a fall on hard concrete and still is ticking. 2 years and still going strong!

    • @niveketihw1897
      @niveketihw1897 7 місяців тому +2

      We've got the same for Z (using on wife's Z30 which is APS-C though) and have had a similar good experience with it.

  • @michaelcoleman5058
    @michaelcoleman5058 7 місяців тому +7

    I purchased a TT Artisan 90mm F1.25 with 77mm filter attachment. It has a L mount which I use on my Leica SL I think it was under $500.00 when purchased. The shallow depth of field is why I purchased the lens as the same lens in Leica was 20 tunes the cost. No auto focus but you get used to using it. It takes very nice images and was worth the investment.

    • @kennygo8300
      @kennygo8300 7 місяців тому

      Bought the Nikon Z version of the same lens. VERY happy with it. I usually buy the manual focus lenses from these companies. Reminds me of the lenses I used in the 70s and 80s.

    • @jango71
      @jango71 7 місяців тому

      I have it too, I bought it to replace the 85 mm f/1.4 D feeling I had on DSLR. It is very good optically but it is a brick, with no AF, no electronics… They are still not there but they offer a variety of lenses one could not get from traditional manufacturers without spending thousands of euros.

  • @LMActionsports
    @LMActionsports 7 місяців тому +7

    Samyang is a phenomenal lens. I still use their 85 & 35 f1.4 V1 for weddings and videos. 3 years and not one client said i wish the images were sharper. Even though my business is growing i am switching over to all sigma or Sony GM lenses. But still plan on keeping the Samyang as backup. And Viltrox 16mm f1.8 is one heck of a lens that is hard to beat

    • @JiJa2525u
      @JiJa2525u 7 місяців тому

      Samyang is a south korean brand

  • @milanshrestha2924
    @milanshrestha2924 7 місяців тому +3

    This is why i like watching fro's videos. He doesn't hesitate to say he was wrong. Honest review always!

  • @drowninggames
    @drowninggames 7 місяців тому +4

    I bought the Viltrox 85mm f/1.8 based on the video you did and have taken a few images... I am blown away at the quality for the price, the autofocus on the Z6 isn't 100% but its 99% of the way there and the photos I can take are very nice looking, sharp and in focus when I hit the focus point I want.

  • @headgames
    @headgames 15 днів тому

    I bought a Meike 85mm 1.8 for $150 on Amazon. I didn’t think I would like the focal length but needed it for a drag race. I had a few L RF lenses with me but that 85 almost never left my camera. You’re not gonna sneak up on anyone with how loud the focus is but the pics were crisp and focus was fast and on point. Made me put away the 24-105L lens.

  • @garynewvine2947
    @garynewvine2947 7 місяців тому +2

    I shot Nikon for 40+ years and a few years ago switched to Sony. I have a couple Sony G lenses that I have been very happy with (due to budget) and recently got the Yongnuo 85 F1.8. I shot Professional Box lacrosse with this lens and was blown away by the results... The AF was fantastic, and the image quality is amazing (shooting portraits of my family including studio work with Flash work). I don't know about the other manufacturers, but Yongnuo (mentioned in the vid) is amazing for the money. I did try the Viltrox 24-79 F2.8, but returned it when after shooting dogs for the rescue I shoot for I was disappointed with AF performance. I went ultimately to the Sony G 24-105... Not looking back for this focal range.

  • @AsianFlew
    @AsianFlew 7 місяців тому +1

    The fact that the Chinese lens are nipping at the heels of the more established brands at much lower prices will only force the big players to not rest on their laurels. It's an overall positive effect for the industry.

  • @niveketihw1897
    @niveketihw1897 7 місяців тому +5

    We got a Meike 85mm f1.8 full frame AF STM Z mount, using it on my wife's Z30 (so it's 127mm equivalent) for outdoor daytime and it has been great. Lack of VR together with the Z30's lack of IBIS limits it a bit, but I was still able to get some beautiful indoor shots with it at xmas too. The quality and feel is fine, it's basically what you'd expect from Nikon at the kit lens or basic prime level. Does not feel like some kind of cheap knock-off at all. Excellent lens hood and lens cap too. Focus is decently quick. Optics at least on APS-C are sublime.

  • @michalsa8094
    @michalsa8094 7 місяців тому +6

    Korean Samyang 24mm f1.8 lenses, sharp and good for astrophotography - 85 f1.4 - 35mm f1.4, very good lenses. Samyang also has a zoom glass for Sony f2.8. I'm not sure, but in the USA these lenses are probably called Rokinon, in Europe Samyang.

  • @billrhea
    @billrhea 7 місяців тому +6

    I have the Samyang RF 85.14 and it’s amazing.

  • @chasenuuhiwa
    @chasenuuhiwa 7 місяців тому +19

    3:51 "If you're a professional, you shouldn't be looking at these lenses?" Yeah, no. Respectfully disagree. You don't need to have expensive glass to be a professional.

    • @bobamarmstrong
      @bobamarmstrong 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TigaWouldSome professionals are shooting with Helios lenses. That's a non-sense. It depends of what you want to deliver at the end.

    • @SuperReview
      @SuperReview 7 місяців тому +1

      I avoid watching these videos because of the irritating intro, but yeah, these statements just graduated to "don't recommend channel" status.

    • @VRJacky
      @VRJacky 7 місяців тому +1

      My best image in terms of what got me any sort of recognition was shot on a canon power shot that still took AA batteries

  • @Neopulse00
    @Neopulse00 7 місяців тому

    1:40 - Would have to say I was happy using the Laowa 105mm f/2 on my old Sony. I just wish I could get it again on the Z-mount.

  • @earlward4778
    @earlward4778 7 місяців тому

    I have the RF 12/2.8 paired with my 5:07 R5. I use for Milky Way and northern lights photography. I also have the Canon RF 15-35L. I shot the Northern lights over the weekend and used each lens pretty equally. Quality-wise no real difference. The 15-35 does have lens correction option in my software and the Laowa did have some minor vignetting. But nothing I cannot live with and edit. The Laowa is an inexpensive option when I want those big sky shots. Looking at getting the 10mm Laowa. If only the Canon RF 10-20 was a 2.8 vs 4. But happy Laowa gave me the wide angle option at a good price point.

  • @S_G_86
    @S_G_86 7 місяців тому +9

    As a Sony APS-C shooter I can confidently say that Viltrox 13mm F1.4 , 27mm F1.2 and 75mm F1.2 are all very good lenses. I also have Yongnuo 16mm F1.8 which is quite good for how cheap it is. I would say Viltrox lenses have a slightly better autofocus mechanism compared to Yongnuo but for the most part Yongnuo is good enough.

    • @Thai.H
      @Thai.H 7 місяців тому

      See if say the other way around yonguno is better then viltrox af

  • @NoxonPhotography
    @NoxonPhotography 7 місяців тому +1

    I remember my first camera I was really happy with the tokina 11-16 2.8 lens for my starter crop sensor. Super wide but I had a ton of fun with it starting out.

  • @noelopez3
    @noelopez3 7 місяців тому +7

    My TT Artissan 1.2 - 50mm is one of my favorite lens.

  • @FilmSpook
    @FilmSpook 7 місяців тому +6

    *A young Bob Ross @ **1:11* 😂🤣
    Jared Polin and Bob Ross! Two geniuses with afros!

  • @TuR0k_DJ
    @TuR0k_DJ 7 місяців тому +1

    I have a Laowa 10-18mm on my Sony A7-3 for livestreaming and it was the only for my purpose suitable case available lens a year ago. The 10mm 2.8 will be my next one and I'm excited to get it!

  • @panagiotistouliatos9545
    @panagiotistouliatos9545 7 місяців тому +5

    You should try the 13mm 1.4 the 27mm 1.2 and the 75mm 1.2 from Viltrox for APS-C. They're killing it.

  • @FFVoyager
    @FFVoyager 7 місяців тому +1

    I have a bunch of 7Artisan and TTArtisan lenses for my M10-P.
    Are they 'good' as similar Leica lenses? Probably not. Would I have the choice of lenses (from 28mm to 75mm) if I were buying Leitz? No. But I can enjoy the rangefinder experience in full and not be entirely broke.

  • @joekubina5897
    @joekubina5897 7 місяців тому +1

    I have only purchased 1, the ttartisan 100/2.8 m42 trioplan just because the original vintage ones are too pricy. Still waiting for delivery though.

  • @roadrunner1970
    @roadrunner1970 7 місяців тому +2

    Have you tried the samyang lenses. I have 3. 85mm 1.4 the 135mm 1.8 and the 35-150mm 2-2.8 and I love them

    • @robthomas4226
      @robthomas4226 7 місяців тому +1

      I have the Samyang 35-150 2-2.8 too and love it. Even mounted to a Megadap ETZ21 on a Nikon Z6 II.

  • @adrianlynch9435
    @adrianlynch9435 7 місяців тому

    Cracking video / commentary. It is quite novel for this sort of opinion and is also nice that you define the types of photographer who you say would look at purchasing these.

  • @Zimtstangerl1989
    @Zimtstangerl1989 7 місяців тому +3

    I have the Laowa 35mm f0.95 and the 9mm f5.6 for Sony E-Mount. I was rocking the 9mm in lost placesque industrial compounds in north-west Germany. The 135° view angle is amazing, especially when you can’t increase the distance to the object.
    The 0.95 is ludicrously bright. It allows for live video of the Milky Way. Yes, you read correctly, you can film the Milky Way with it. 🤩

  • @mingmarlama7987
    @mingmarlama7987 7 місяців тому +2

    You should try the Samyang/Rokinon lenses aswelll. They have some impressive fast prime and zoom lenses for emount.

  • @robendert7617
    @robendert7617 7 місяців тому

    You definitely have a point in the context of beginners who need something good enough, and have to buy at a good quality-price ratio without breaking the bank. I re-started a hobby-level photography journey based on a Nikon Z30. Viltrox drew my attention, and I got the 13/1.4, the 23/1.4, the 56/1.4 and the 75/1.2 Pro. At my level, those lenses are capable of doing better than I'm able to do. Very happy with them at the moment. In my opinion, with the 75/1.2 Pro, Viltrox upped their game one more level.

  • @VRJacky
    @VRJacky 7 місяців тому

    The Meike 85mm f1.8 af is great for the price, autofocus is a bit loud but also comes with a removable hood, I'm happy with it

  • @ronyedin
    @ronyedin 7 місяців тому +4

    Samyang/Rokinon are GREAT too!!

  • @kevinkong6202
    @kevinkong6202 7 місяців тому

    Laowa's 24mm macro probe lens has been used in some professional commercial shoots, they make some interesting products that other major manufacturers did not bother to make.

  • @danielszeto1873
    @danielszeto1873 3 місяці тому

    I just bought a Yongnuo 85 F1.8 from eBay for my Nikon Z5. I was very happy of the image sharpness. The Autofocus works well. The Bokeh is truly amazing! Yongnuo is my first and only Chinese made len and it is an A+ Buy for the money.

  • @kenemmens6281
    @kenemmens6281 7 місяців тому

    About 6 years ago I bought a Meike battery grip for my then Canon 7D Mark II camera. It took 3 grips before I got one that didn't have loose screws rattling around inside or missing from the outside. Still, I went ahead and bought one because it cost about 20% of the Canon one. It was still working properly up until the time I sold the camera last year. I don't know whether the quality of Meike lenses is better than their battery grips from 6 years ago, but I would be very reluctant to buy one until I was sure their quality control has been drastically improved.

  • @MrCoolAttitude
    @MrCoolAttitude 7 місяців тому +3

    What's a 2nd party lens?

    • @donkamala
      @donkamala 7 місяців тому

      Something built by the user

  • @mrljvb
    @mrljvb 7 місяців тому +1

    I say this all the time. Just because it is Chinese, does not mean it is cheap and crap. They are skilled manufacturers, and will build a product to whatever quality the customer is asking for (when it comes to OEM's and ODM's).

  • @Kirbysm8
    @Kirbysm8 7 місяців тому

    I practiced on a 2nd hand panasonic g7 and a 7artisan manual as a beginner coming from phone cameras. Now I have the panasonic s5 and sigma art 24 70 2.8 and i classify myself a "pro-sumer". I'd don't make money out of my camera but I do love it as a hobby. Cheap lenses are great for buidling your foundational skills like composition.

  • @FauxxYT
    @FauxxYT 7 місяців тому +1

    I got a 60mm f/2.8 Macro lens from 7Artisans and was completely blown away by how high quality the lens was for the price. For a tiny package it has a hefty weight with all metal construction (including the lens cap). A great recommendation for anyone trying to get into Macro lenses

  • @TheFilmGuyOfficial
    @TheFilmGuyOfficial 7 місяців тому

    The new samyang e mounts are pretty solid!

  • @dogflirt
    @dogflirt 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for bringing this to light Jared - I bought an RF mount Laowa 15mm Zero distortion full frame lens back in 2019 - and it’s been a BEAST of a lens - And although I’ve since bought a 24-105 L-series, I had already built a six figure business from that Laowa and a couple non-L Canon lenses.
    That particular lens is manual, but it never limited me, equally for photo and video, and is still my second favorite lens to this day. second only to my Canon 24-105 L.
    Don’t sleep on Laowa. 🙌🙌

  • @Hodenkat
    @Hodenkat 7 місяців тому +1

    I always figured that many of these 3rd party lenses were missing coatings and higher quality manufacturing processes and cheaper materials. I've seen some reviews and things like chromatic aberration and how the f-stop needs to be tightened up to get sharp shots. This is a great update Jared has done. I think limiting yourself to the big three all day every day is not where many people are at. I'm not saying we need reviews on old film cameras, but some budget gear reviews would be great! I know it's hard to show enthusiasm over some cheap glass when you've had your hands on Canon L-series lenses to do your job, but could it hurt to at least show some love to the beginner? THANKS JARED!!

    • @chilecayenne
      @chilecayenne 7 місяців тому +3

      One thing to keep in mind and it took me a while to do it....these days, most all chromatic aberration is exceedingly easy to fix in post...a quick button or slider and *POOF*...gone.
      I rarely ever look at what CA a lens has as that I know it's generally nothing I'll end up dealing with in a finished image.
      Just my $0.02,
      CC

  • @MMPAspergerian
    @MMPAspergerian 7 місяців тому +1

    I own many ZYO and one TTArtisans. The IQ and micro contrast on ZYO is sensational, that's why I bought them to begin with.

  • @davekimmer5428
    @davekimmer5428 7 місяців тому

    I've been shooting Nikon since 2018 and I just picked up the VILTROX 56mm F1.7 for my Z30 and it seems great so far. It gives me a super light-weight setup for my favorite 85mm focal length that I can easily put in a coat pocket. Considering it was only $139.99 and Nikon doesn't make an ASP-C lens that compares, I'd say it was a no-brainer... we'll see how it holds up.

  • @JustLife-q4q
    @JustLife-q4q 7 місяців тому +2

    You can't beat the Viltrox 27 and 75mm F1.2 PRO lenses -- period. They are also releases LAB lenses, which are supposed to be much better than the PRO. The next lens is the FE 135mm F1.8 but they also have several other PRO and LAB f1.2s on the horizon.

    • @JustLife-q4q
      @JustLife-q4q 7 місяців тому

      Oh, forgot the Viltrox 13mm F1.4 APS-C lens. Also the sharpest of its kind.

  • @HaxYou
    @HaxYou 7 місяців тому

    I use a Meike 85mm f/1.8. We love it, but we also are new to photography so we don't know how much better it would be to use better glass. Maybe you can review it.

  • @FlyingPeteNZ
    @FlyingPeteNZ 7 місяців тому

    I my very first third party lens a few months ago, a Laowa Argus 35mm f/0.95 for my Canon RF mount, yes it is still manual focus but it is the most fun I have had with a lens for decades! You do need a ND to avoid having to stop down in bright environments though.

  • @Augnos
    @Augnos 7 місяців тому

    I used a Meike EF-RF adapter, and it was very tight against the mount and felt very plastic and would probably snap under the right conditions. Kinda steered me away from some of the lesser known 3rd party lenses. I’ve used Sirui tripods, and they are built like tanks, and I’d take a look at some of their cine lenses if I got a chance

  • @shadow479
    @shadow479 7 місяців тому

    I got over a year ago my first Laowa 2:1 macro 100mm 2.8 lens for my Z6 II and I was blown away with the sharpness and overal rendition from it, even for landscapes and closeups. I am still amazed every time I use it. I am still not convinced that every product from chinese manufacturers would reach this level but I know I got a gem!

  • @not2green
    @not2green 7 місяців тому

    As a life long Nikon glass user, I tend to be conservative with lens choices. But, recently bought a Viltrox 20mm f2.8 AF for US$158 new. A low risk trial. It's got a metal mount, nice build, and a sharp image (in the centre at least). It turns out 20mm isn't really my style, so I'm super glad I didn't overspend!

  • @gdjaybee742
    @gdjaybee742 7 місяців тому

    I have Tokina's 85 1.8 on the Sony e mount. From my research it is the sharpest in its class for the price point (350/400 ish) without any autofocus issues and was able to carry its own against Sony and Sigma0, its better than Viltrox and MEike, but Sigma's 1.4 is still a tad sharper but twice the price; and for the price of Sigma, you really are getting severe diminishing returns on the dollar for the very little improvement in sharpness. In spite of the sharpness, thhe Tokina's bokeh is not harsh either and is as smooth as the Sigma's. Tom Colton here on UA-cam did an extensive comparison review of the 85s. I did get the Viltrox 23 1.4 for A6500 as this was the only option in the price range, and I'm pretty happy with it.

  • @danteedee8204
    @danteedee8204 7 місяців тому +1

    I have used Samyang/rokinon but they are Korean. NISI and Laowa seem to be well reviewed.

  • @artmaltman
    @artmaltman 7 місяців тому +3

    Samyang 135mm f/1.8 lovely. Tamron and Sigma of course. Sony's edges are (1) perfection optically and (2) fast tracking autofocus.

  • @AnnaVahtera
    @AnnaVahtera 7 місяців тому

    I have a XIAOYI Brand 42.5mm f/1.8 for Micro Four Thirds. (Lens cap says just "Yi".) It's full autofocus. There's a switch on the side to switch between normal and macro. It's all plastic, but feels good quality plastic, and not that flimsy.
    It's brilliant. The AF works - if not super fast, at least as fast as the Lumix collapsible 30-100mm and 12-32mm lenses - and it's decently sharp. It wasn't as stupidly cheap as the Yongnuo 50mm, but it wasn't expensive by any stretch.
    For my needs (not a pro), it works perfectly.

  • @jamescaldwell5
    @jamescaldwell5 7 місяців тому

    I’ve got several Chinese manual focus lenses I love using with my Sigma FPL. My 7artisans 50mm f1.05 might not be quite as sharp (but it’s close) as my Voigtlander 50mm f1, but its background bokeh is superior. Recently purchased the Ttartisans 90mm f1.25, an incredibly dreamy portrait lens that can still give you subject isolation from surprisingly far distances.

  • @tiffanyhillman7071
    @tiffanyhillman7071 7 місяців тому

    I use a Mike 85 1.8 on my a6300 and have no complaints on the sharpness or ease of use. It gets the job done, I just wish it was an autofocus lens. I also have a Yongnuo 50 for my Nikon and I love it. It is one of the few that doesn’t sound or feel cheap and hits my autofocus better than the native lens. Creamy background and an almost painterly look while staying sharp. It’s my go-to lens for travel and portraits.

  • @omarortizytc
    @omarortizytc 7 місяців тому

    I am very happy and satisfied with my Viltrox 75mm f/1.2 paired with my Sony a6700. Have you reviewed it yet?

  • @gradysanders2713
    @gradysanders2713 7 місяців тому

    I’m glad this was a short one. Serious question tho. Wouldn’t a used f mount with the adaptor be just as good if not better than a cheap new lens, and still be budget friendly? Photography has always been my hobby, and have shy’d away from making money with it so it doesn’t spoil my fun. I use above average lenses and have done well affordability wise by buying used equipment. Usually it is used Nikon gear, but higher end, just older. I’d like to hear your take on new Chinese 3rd party lenses vs older native lenses. I do understand some of Nikons lenses are made in China however I hope the quality control carries over.

  • @ragadrop
    @ragadrop 7 місяців тому +1

    All Chinese lenses that I have tried (from 5 years to now) have been amazing. Honestly I think that both photo and cine lenses from China are rock solid.

  • @ChristianLink
    @ChristianLink 7 місяців тому

    I got some Viltrox lenses (DX & FX) and I like them.
    The 20mm & 40mm are not as good as the Nikon versions (I guess) but good enough for me, a hobbyist.
    I really like the Viltrox 85mm 1.8 and I may get my hands on their 50mm version, too.
    For someone earning money, the native or high-end 3rd party lenses may make more sense.
    I also love my three ART lenses (35mm, 50mm & the superior 105mm 1.4).
    Thanks for the video and I'm looking forward to the next reviews.

  • @odetas9597
    @odetas9597 7 місяців тому

    Would love to see a review about the Rokinon come lenses that come as a set with matched T-stops

  • @darkhorsewebdesign
    @darkhorsewebdesign 7 місяців тому +1

    Always enjoy your video's, thank you. One lens I purchased was a YONGNUO YN35mm F2Z DF DSM Lens Full frame Auto Focus for Nikon z mount. It is extremely sharp and has weather sealing. Full Auto focus with dedicated LN1 button & AF/M switch. It received the same overall score as the native Nikon Z 35mm f1.8 lens. Focus is quiet, seems to work fine, only issue is occasionally when focusing at its minimum focus distance it will sometimes hunt a bit. Canadian Price about $450, not super cheap but well worth it.

  • @davemil716
    @davemil716 7 місяців тому

    Nikon Z50 user... I have owned the Viltrox 23mm and 56mm... I mistakingly sold them. For my uses (portrait and models, posting on the internet) they were awesome, very sharp on the Z mount. I recently purchased a Yonguo 50mm f1.8. I am not as happy with it big quality as the Viltrox, but it is very sharp. No regrets.

  • @lovethevideos
    @lovethevideos 7 місяців тому

    Yes I use a Viltrox 28, 1.8 Z mount on my z5 and get great results. The let down is autofocus breathing in some situations

  • @danncorbit3623
    @danncorbit3623 7 місяців тому +3

    With modern computer algorithms to aid design, everyone is improving. The Chinese lenses used to be low quality. Same for some other older brands. Sigma was terrible long ago. Tamron was terrible long ago. But today there are lots of companies making excellent lenses. There are still companies making bad lenses, but it is worthwhile to test the new stuff to figure out if the new lenses are OK.

  • @Timothy_othy
    @Timothy_othy 7 місяців тому

    I got the brightinstar F0.95 recently, and I love it.

  • @relentlezz
    @relentlezz 5 місяців тому

    For some reasons I am having difficulties with the playback of this particular video: At the beginning and somewhere around the middle, the audio switches to Spanish without my intervention.

  • @kevc1984
    @kevc1984 7 місяців тому

    I have used 7artisans and TT Artisans manual focus primes and have been very impressed with both builds quality and image quality.

  • @utcomgrad92
    @utcomgrad92 7 місяців тому

    I got a Meike 85 f/1.8 for Canon EF, I used it with my crop frame 80D. For the $179 I paid for it, I feel I got a really good bargain. It gave me great images with really nice bokeh and excellent low light performance. Like you said it is not as good as a native canon lens, although I would rank it better than the kit lenses that came with the Rebel cameras like the 18-55. I recently upgraded to an R6 and have adapted all my EF glass. I have used the Meike a couple of time and I am still glad I bought it. It is worth the money I paid for it.

  • @jyoungtricks
    @jyoungtricks 7 місяців тому

    I have the Rokinon 14mm f2.8 AF, I am very happy with it, I got it on a discount and I can't remember how much for but my expectations were low, but I was surprised

  • @dimensionless99
    @dimensionless99 7 місяців тому

    I have a few Viltrox lenses for the Fuji X system. The 13mm and 23mm, both f1.4, are great entry level lenses for fast primes. But the 75mm f1.2, which they label as "PRO" series, is honestly on par with the best Fuji primes. It's also reflected in the price, as I wouldn't consider it cheaper, only "cheaper". But man is it amazing.

  • @ad19yoyo45
    @ad19yoyo45 7 місяців тому

    Rokinon MF12mm f2.8, Irix MF11mm f4 and Viltrox AF20mm f2.8 lenses on my Z9 and Z5 bodies work well. I ran a photo business for 37 years and I am now a retired hobby shooter. When I started out in 1974 the Soligors, Vivitars and Pluracoat lenses got me on my way. Today's 3rd party lenses are a good step above the quality of lenses I started out with.

  • @yophotodude7693
    @yophotodude7693 7 місяців тому

    I bought a cheap 7Artisins 10mm f/2.8 full-frame fish eye expecting a $250 lens. It’s really well built, and it does what it supposed to do for as little as I use it. I also got the Viltrox 75mm f/1.2 Pro for my Z 9 (knowing it’s crop sensor, but for my use, the 19.5mp is plenty), gets me a cheap f/1.2 lens for when it gets really dark and I need to AF in the dark and a 112mm f/1.8 (from a DOF/Bokeh perspective) was a pretty good choice and it’s very well built and gives really good quality.

  • @earlspiece9403
    @earlspiece9403 7 місяців тому

    You're just wrong!!!! Giggle... I owe much to your vids critiquing Cameras and lens options for Canon in 2022. This helped me on my buy... to lead me to the best in class for my budget... most economical buy for (landscape type guy) a Canon R with a 24 - 70 2.8 lens and a 24 -200 F4 lens (as opposed to the lower more expensive 24-200 F* lens options). Saved me bunch of money to buy filters and other accessories. When able to validate any of your critiques.. I've always been able to validate your experiences shared on your vids... You are a real, true, honest, experienced presenter!!!. Hope you're critiques are viewed by many folks as they will find they are lucky to have benefitted from your valuable information!!! Cheers!!!

  • @Marruk8865
    @Marruk8865 7 місяців тому +1

    I love the Viltrox AF 85mm 1.8 II, Samyang AF 35mm 2.8, Samyang AF 14mm 2.8

  • @8lec_R
    @8lec_R 7 місяців тому

    I have a fully manual kamlan 21mm f1.8. got it for 90 bucks including taxes. Sharp, great micro contrast, and can close focus like a champ. Love the lens. Also it's quite small

  • @kleemyberlin6444
    @kleemyberlin6444 7 місяців тому

    Yea, Jared, there´s TTArtisan as well. I just got the 10mm f2 for Fuji X-Mount. 169,00 Euro, great build quality, great image quality in the center, starting at 2.8, good image quality in the corners, starting from 5.6.

  • @timdokter3893
    @timdokter3893 7 місяців тому

    I’ve been using the new 7artisans AF 50mm 1.8 on Z-mount for a couple of weeks. Loving it! It’s sharp, very well built and renders beautifully.

  • @MacM545
    @MacM545 6 місяців тому

    I had a Meike 50mm F/2 lens or about eighty dollars. I don't know if it was because I got an exceptionally good copy, but it was able to make for great images. I added 26mm extension tubes for it for macro on a 24 megapixel APS-C, and even then, the images didn't show lack of sharpness, at least in the center. I've had relatively good opinion about Viltrox because of a lens I got before. I also used a Laowa 2x macro.

  • @denizkendirci
    @denizkendirci 7 місяців тому

    I just bought a dirt cheap meike 35mm f1.4 manual lens for my fuji x-t3. It has serious vignetting but other than that, both image quality and build quality are awesome for 40 usd. And even though i don't own one, i tried couple of 7artisans and they were also really good. But all of those lenses i talked about were manual lenses. I didn't test out AF third party lens.

  • @KOUGA108
    @KOUGA108 7 місяців тому

    I have the Ttartisan 27mm f2.8 and a 56mm f1.8 both autofocus lenses. Really happy with both of them.

  • @NilsValkenborgh
    @NilsValkenborgh 7 місяців тому

    TTartisan 50mm f0.95 and 90mm f1.25 are my two most used lenses. Both wonderful for portrait work.

  • @fredintheshead
    @fredintheshead 7 місяців тому

    Hi, I've had a Yongnuo 35mm f2. It was the first lens I purchased after my Canon 50mm f1.8. I'm not going to say it's any where near a native lens or even an L lens. It rattled, noisy when focusing but still fast focusing but the pictures are on par with the canon 50mm. Don't think I'd take the chance again though!

  • @BrianKSmith-ds2sh
    @BrianKSmith-ds2sh 7 місяців тому +1

    Hey Fro.... message from a neighbour up in the Great White North. I have the Viltrox Pro Series 27mm f/1.2 and the Viltrox Pro Series 75mm f/1.2 for my Fujifilm X-H1. Both work flawlessly and the results are sharp with good contrast.

  • @MichaelRoachWV
    @MichaelRoachWV 7 місяців тому

    I got a Rokinon / Samyang 50 1.4 Mark II on a whim, Amazon Warehouse used, and it completely replaced my Zeiss 55 1.8. I got another Warehouse steal on the Rokinon / Samyang 135 1.8, and now I barely use my Tamron 70-180 lol. The 135 is slightly older, but it works great on my a7IV, and ok on my a7iii.

  • @stevew4691
    @stevew4691 7 місяців тому

    I use a Viltrox 50mm 1.8 for my portrait work on my A7RII and love the rendition of this lens. My Sony 55 actually stays in my shelf most of the time.

  • @EvilleParanormal
    @EvilleParanormal 7 місяців тому

    All 4 lenses that I have for my a7iii are Viltrox lenses. I have the 23mm 1.4, the 55mm 1.8, the 85mm 1.8, and just bought 16mm 1.8. They are cost effective and sharp lenses.

  • @Bokeh_
    @Bokeh_ 7 місяців тому

    wait can we see your work like actually tho? i get talking about it but is there a place where we can see your work/portfolio

  • @stephanweiskorn6760
    @stephanweiskorn6760 7 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video 😊!

  • @MarkWaggoner
    @MarkWaggoner 7 місяців тому

    I'm just getting started in photography. I've got a Canon M50 MKII. I have TTArtisan 25mm F2.0 and 35mm F1.4, and 7Artisans 11mm F2.8. All manual focus. They take great pictures for my skill level. They are at least as clear as the Canon kit lens and 55-200mm.