Where are the NAVY SEALS In Modern Warfare?
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On today's video we are talking about Americas Elite Tier One Operators the Navy SEALs and why they should be in Modern Warfare.
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The campaign, a direct sequel to the record-breaking Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II, sees Captain Price and Task Force 141 face off against ultranationalist war criminal Vladimir Makarov as he extends his grasp across the world.
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Just to clarify...a Navy Seal...is not a tier 1 operator. They're on the same level as a green beret...and army ranger.
All of these units do have Tier 1 level operators. For the seals that is DEVGRU. Aka development group.
For the army special forces community there's Delta force and the rangers do have a Tier 1 unit known as the regimental reconnaissance company (which our current specgru rangers 1234 are all apart of)
@jakemontell.7415 Yeah, someone mentioned that up top... that's what I meant. Then I want to see the best appear, but I also appreciate the clarification. Thank you.
@@BranWolfYT no worries and totally understandable. I think we're all missing team metal from mw3. Sandman...Grinch...Truck...Frost.
The only current delta operator we do have...would be Alex as he was delta before going CIA SAD and still retaining a tier 1 status...just no longer army.
@@BranWolfYTModern Ware 2 (2009) Did one mission where you worked with Seals (Breaking out Captain Price)
However Black Ops 2 are DEVGRU. Section/David Mason (Who is Alex Mason's Son) Is Seal Team 6.
Green Berets and army rangers can also be Tier 1
@@drunkvax rangers have the regimental reconnaissance company. That is their tier 1 unit.
Special forces green berets have unique special mission units designed to utilize more...undercover and civilian based methods. Like the ISA. Intelligence support activity...they work alongside the other 5 tier one units to provide Intel.
TBH I feel Delta would more likely to be involved with 141 like in the original trilogy.
Fr where’s Frost, Sandman, Grinch and Truck
@@NovaDaGoat not just metal team in general Just Delta it’s Americans premier Special Forces group.
@@g3tshotheett Alex or Echo 3-1 from the reboot was a delta force member before the CIA from cod wiki
Yea but Delta doesn't have the culture like DEVGRU does
@@sun9378 that’s because most of the SEALs who get out write books and movies
I feel you Brother. We need more US topping on this cake. I mean, where are Griggs, Sandman, Frost, Vasquez... and don't make me remind about Ramirez. That guy basicly is the foundation of United States military might, he does EVERYTHING and PERFECTLY.
"RAMIREZ! DO EVERYTHING!"
RAMIREZ, GET ME A #5 FROM BURGERTOWN WHILE YOU’RE OVER THERE
So TF 141 is based off the real world TF 145 which was an international unit consisting of Delta force, U.S. Army Green Berets, US Army Rangers, UK Special Air service, UK special Boat service, US Navy seals, US 160th SR the Nightstalkers, FBI, CIA, MI5, MI6 and the Defense intelligence Agency, US Air Force special tactics and reconnaissance squadrons
Tf 145 was broken down into smaller teams the worked interoperability together.what was unique was they had complete operational freedom in the hunt for zarkawi who helped plan 9/11, they did what you could call rapid intel response. So when intel is retrieved in the field from a raid it has to go through several levels of review to be verified before it could be acted on, this makes sure it’s credible but often by the time it can be acted on they’d move .145 didn’t do that. Instead when they received Andy kind of intel they acted immediately on it and would launch subsequent raids immediately sometimes it led to duds sometimes it’d pay off sometimes it was a trap.
if you're asking then yes you can see this clearer in mw2 remastered you'll be able to see the patches more constiting of the usa, uk, canda, etc mainly the britsh family tree.. handpick elite soldiers , if you're telling then yeah something like that
@@iKeisu I’m sharing a cool fact
I’m kinda burnt out on Seal media TBH. Bring back the OG 75 Rangers, Delta should’ve been down in Mexico instead of Ghost & Soap since it was suggested that they were involved with El Chapo! Introduce MARSOC??
yeah these seal team shows have alot of the same themes and drama.
you are alongside marsoc raiders (Playing as Alex) in the first mission of MW19, where they ( the Raiders) are all killed, leaving alex alone, alive
@@TeamR1sk Yeah I know but they add nothing to the overall story. It was one mission & gone. In OG MW1 we played as Marines, MW2 Rangers, & MW3 Delta throughout the entire campaign.
@@Sun-Warrior1911 that’s true. Yeah I guess they are kinda slacking lmao
@@TeamR1sk They’re afraid to take risks IMO. That’s why they’ve only stuck with mainly the fan favorite OG characters who happen to be SAS Operators. Alex was good but they “killed” him off but just like that he’s back & he’s definitely not the same guy he was in MW19. Graves could’ve been the main villain going forward but of course they gotta have Makarov so he gets “killed” in a tank just so he comes back. “Well I wasn’t in that tank!” WTF!! The OG CoDs took risks and that’s why many remember the stories. No tension or stakes in this MW series compared to the OG MW series. Same with Cold War IMO!
Is it just me or is the first mission in MW19 the only one where MARSOC (Marine special forces) we're actually depicted in call of duty?
I mean MARSOC's pretty recent compared to other spec ops groups
In the OG Modern we had the 1st Recon guys
MARSOC is a lot newer than the other sof units so yeah that was the first time we’ve seen them
There at the end of mw2
@@foxtrotosc4r I was talking about the original Modern Warfare, Call of Duty 4
We had the Marines, Jackson being 1st Recon
And the SAS
MW2 We had The 75th Rangers, and at some point 141 worked with Seals for the gulag rescue
MW3 we had Deltas with Rangers showing up here and there
In 2019 yes we had Marsoc with Alex
@@foxtrotosc4r well that's my mistake
But in the original he was 1st Recon
In MW2 2009 Task Force 141 was a multi national team of American, British, Australian and Canadian special forces with at least 80 members. It was never just Soap, Roach, Ghost and Price. There were always other operators, sometimes they’d be the same name every time (Royce, Meat, Rook, Archer, Toad, Scarecrow, Ozone, Worm) or it would pull a random one from the list of names (Midnight, Jester, Rocket, etc.)
I don’t know the exact military terms but it went from 80 guys (a platoon??) to 4 (a squad?)
They could use characters we already know and just say “they were pulled from Marine Force Recon/Army Rangers/Delta and are in the 141 now”
Give us Vasquez, Jackson, Griggs, Foley, Dunn, Ramirez, Allen, Frost, Grinch, Truck and Sandman and say they’re in the 141. Price’s squad can operate in one location, Vasquez in another. Mix them up a bit too if you want.
But the idea that these 4 British guys are running ops around the globe single handedly is insane when the original task force was a huge joint op and you understood you weren’t just a one man wrecking ball. You’re one of the best of the best, but you still need your team to operate
Ironically in Cod 4 until the Nuke Went Off it actually switched from Soap to Sgt Paul Jackson
I think incorporating more Americans in general would be a good thing. We've seen some marines in the modern trilogy, but in the original MW trilogy, we got marines, Rangers and Delta. Not having any seals in MW seems like a huge oversight.
@@chairmanofthebored6860 definitely agree
If I'm not mistaken there were Navy seals in the original modern warfare 2 mission when you had the infiltrate the oil rig off in the ocean along with soap and ghost.
Well navy seals were also present during wm3 when delta team Metal linked up with seals to sabotage a submarine
Delta or Rangers should've been down in Mexico instead of the brits
We Used to Play as American Soldiers in the OG Games man C'mon! I Was Born in Texas and i Loved The OG MW Games the Balance of American, Russian and British Soldiers was Perfect, and Seeing How the new MW Operates Now Makes Concerned for It's Future, If Only they Kept the OG Ways of Doin' Missions Man, These "Open Combat Missions" Aka Minecraft Creative Mode but With Guns ain't It Man, We Really Need the OG Ways of Mission Makin' Or The New MWs are Cooked Like Obsidian.
We need Gary "Roach" Sanderson Back Man, Wait a Minute he Might Get Betrayed (NVM Mr Humty Dumty is Dead, Wait What If the UNO Reverse It and Make Norris Pull out The 500. Magnum and Shoot Roach and Ghost Because Shepherd ain't Ya' Know Alive and he takes the Spot has the General, Nah Activision has been Soft as a Fluffy Dog and even if they did it would Be Like the Shadow Co. Betrayal(Sorry Graves your Betrayal wasn't as Impactful as The Shepherd one the MW2 2009, Damn i feel Old)
What balance? Out of 20 main call of duty games there is only 1 game where you don't play as an american. Classic OG fan complaining about a diferent approach
They are also on the hunt to get valeria, but so far, their unsuccessful
Funny how not even Delta is present, let alone SEALs.
OGs were a lot better in incorporating real life SFs into the story, SEALs would work with 141 in securing an oil rig, Deltas sacrifices themselves to stop the third world war.
One of the mistakes they made in writing the 141 in the reboot is that they wrote as if 141 are solo action heroes, this is apparent in MWIII in an open combat mission where only 4 guys are deployed to raid an entire nuke facility in broad daylight mind you, that's just... I'm sorry, but we needed around a couple stacks of SAS just to clear a single house, this was the realism that this new series established in 2019, it went down the drain in 2023.
The Seals also showed up in the original MW2, they help 141 to rescue Price on the Gulag, and they were also on the previous mission on the oil rig.
Where’s my French special forces tooo and the ksk
It’s obvious that they are afraid to take risks with their storytelling. They’ve played it safe from the beginning only introducing the OG fan favorite characters which happened to be mostly SAS operators.
As a Brit, I didn't even think about stuff like this. But in terms of writing, it could be either that the writers want to focus on the current characters, which happen to be mostly British rather than American, or the other reason could be that the writers are worried about being compared to TV shows about Seals and focus on other special forces like the SAS as I can only really think of one show that covers the SAS which is from the early 2000s called Ultimate Force, that's actually a pretty good show to be honest and has a lot of themes that usually don't get covered in that era of Television.
But the writers could then maybe focus on other US based operators, Delta Force perhaps. But I will say that they do kind of use US forces, but for some reason, that being the Marines, which I've got nothing against, but the mission in MW2 where you first go to capture Hassan, I'm pretty sure its the Marines who are with you, hell, in the first mission of MW2019, I think its Marines there who infil with Alex rather than Seals or any other special forces.
A lot of characters from Seal Team in call of duty :
- Raul Menendez actor was in that episode when they killed that cartel leader in Mexico
- Hassan Ziyani actor was in an episode when Ray got captured
- Jason French voice actor in seasons 5 .6 is captain Price French voice actor
- there's some sort of a reference to seal team in mw2 and 3 [ in season 5 and all bravo members have ops core hearing protection on their helmets Jason was the only one to keep his m3 meanwhile in mw it's the contrary Captain Price is the only one to use ops core hearing protection ]
As a soldier myself I never understood why Americans intelligence agents would be using a foreign nation soldiers for direct action
I'm glad someone with your experience agrees!
YOOOO I JUST STARTED SEAL TEAM A MONTH AGO. It's sooo good 100% recommend it
@Nighthawk-YT definitely currently watching it myself 😅
I think that's one of the things that annoys me the most about call of duty is that they never put in our America special forces which are the best in the world and it is not even close, not even with the SAS or SBS, and as for the best of the best of everything I've been hearing from all the special forces operators, the best of the best is Delta Force, devgru, and then Green berets, and then RRC rangers, and then Navy seals and then Marine raiders, etc but it would be nice to see them all finally put in a cod game.
I think that delta force (which are the most elite SOF unit) would make more sense to appear in mw. Like in the OG MW3. Navy SEALS are less elite than Delta or Rangers and are mainly covered in media because of their cool name tbh.
Seems like the writers quit after Mw19 explains why the quality dropped. But yeah it made no sense for British operators to be running ops with no Americans around
I feel like they had a big bias to the Brits.... I mean the only American Combatant we've got are Alex and Griggs (Named) plus some unnamed Marines and Rangers. MW3 showed me that they really do have a huge bias on those SAS...
Not going to lie we don’t need seals. We need to pick up where Griggs left off. In modern warfare, 2019, the Marine Corps raiders would be so much better. And fits in the story. Or Delta force. Sidenote Griggs is in task force 141
Yes, before he got shot in the head during the final mission of OG MW1
It was SAS cross Usmc
I think navy seals are tier 2, tier 1 has to go for Devgru seal team six and their many squadrons, red, gold blue, and there’s the mythical black squadron, also I think it catered too much to the 141 instead forgetting that in American soil why not ask Devgru, delta force, SOAR (160th) or even make a task force in the United States that had a combination in order for them to be a part of the 141, add them and you’ll have differences to the team but that they’re willing to take down any of the threats of not only the United States, but of the world, they go above and beyond in the world and will not get named or get medals but do the dirty work that no one hears about
@daianspahava8279 thanks for clearing that up... that's what I meant I want to see the best Seals out there in a modern warfare game and really used properly but I'm not sure we'll get it anytime soon
If I had to make a choice on who’s getting me out alive a seal team or a spetznaz ct team idk if I’m coming out at all
@@yungsinna3678 you'd want Delta. Their bread and butter is extreme hostage rescues and close quarters engagements. Wether it's a plane hijacking...or the Russian presidents daughter being captured by makarov's men...they know the importance of keeping a high value target alive. Hence...they ultimate sacrifice team metal made at the end of mw3........except for Frost lol he went on to do more ops. Poor fucker is forever stuck in spec ops 😂
YOU FORGET the most important reason. PICCADILLY was attacked. Therefore it makes sense the Brits take the lead in the series. And the reason they answer to the US is bc they were already pursuing AQ so it’s likely they had better intel than mi6.
As for 2022, shadow would make more sense than bc it was an off-the-books mission. No reason to send seals or demons
2023 is the only game that woulda made sense for them to be in. Going after Makarov who is known terrorist to the US and UK. They should’ve sent more than 4 dudes to the airstrip
It's a simple answer: The new Modern Warfare trilogy is a British power fantasy. It's also a fan-service game to excite girls who have never played the original COD games before.
TBH they could make Roach a seal if they give him an introduction in the next game. Would love to see SGT Griggs back which iirc was Delta Force
I liked having Alex because he was the only real American pov we get but he’s always with Farah so we never get to see him doing his own thing.
To be fair I think we see a few different branches of the military in modern warfare 2019 like in the mission hunting party you’re with the demon dogs which I think is a group in the marines, the SAS play a pretty major role in modern warfare 2019, and you also see the police in Picadilly. Although I don’t really remember any branches of a military in modern warfare 2 aside from the cia and Los Vaqueros. but I think that was because general shepherd was trying to keep everything off the books hence why we were working a PMC for most of the game. I can’t really speak on modern warfare 3 tho since I haven’t played it.
The US-military community would probably disagree with the claim that the Seals are the "best of the best" with how notorious Seals are for botching missions, getting fellow Seals killed, losing the trust of the US-government and writing books about how badass they are and turning them into Hollywood-movies.
Anyways, I want Delta-Force back, the uncontested best of the best.
I love these videos. Keep it up :)
Because their Egos are high enough
Well Task Force 141 was inspired by the real life Task Force 145 that was made up of both US and UK and other allied special operations and Tier 1 units
I do agree it would be nice to see more Seals in modern warfare, however; I heavily believe that there should be more representation of the Special Boat Service (SBS) the Tier 1 unit of the British Navy that is the equal to the British SAS that is a Tier 1 unit of the British Army. After playing call of duty I was heavily shocked to see that there is nothing about the SBS in any call of duty game even though it is the sister branch of the British SAS similar to how in the US Delta Force is with Devgru (Seal Team 6)
In my fanfic David Mason is a Squadron Commander for Blue Squadron in DEVGRU 😁
My opinion is that compare to the old MW Games where it introduce lots of new characters, Realism aside in Modern Warfare games they just re use the old characters as if there superhumans where they can travel around the world fighting bad guys like c'mon there should be atleast another character from another side of the planet to some missions as well just for a new breath take experience.
The current MW devs should atleast add the old characters form the old MW games or even add NAVY SEALS, GREEN BERETS, 75TH Ranger Regiment, CIA SOG, ISA or even allied Special Forces like Poland, France, Germany special forces to make it look like Modern Warfare where Task Force 141 truly consisted of best of the best International Special Forces
That's why I like Cod 4 Custom Missions stories. It has Several Different Factions which is Cool.
Agreed. They should’ve introduced a British handler for 141 who interacts with Kate Laswell and they coordinate missions together for each group instead of smudging them together. The OG series handled the different branches well but they could’ve done it even better in the modern series but they messed it up.
Delta force I think is a tier 1 unit in the army special force irl. Would cool to see them in call of duty
I dont think its not the representation of how important the SAS is, but IWs reliance on PMCs now. I feel like the rangers, USMC, and Delta from the OG are now replaced by Specgru, Kortac, and Shadow Company being the americans now, and im still iffy on shadow company being the kinda good guys. I want the traditional military back, SC is cool but IW has this weird fascination with PMCs now
Probably because Activision realised how overused SEALs are in video games and Hollywood alike and thought it best to bring attention to some of the lesser known SOF unit out there such as MARSOC.
Outside of that navy seals are vastly overrated in the SOF communities and people dont realize that navy seals are not a tier 1 unit. That goes to DEVGRU also know as Seal Team Six which is what David Mason was apart of in black ops 2
Hopefully we see them soon
I personally wanna see the delta force team return to the modern warfare series
It will be cool to see a member of the tier 1 rangers be in tf 141
I'm more interestwd in where is Delta Force in modern warfare? We get SEALS everytime, movies, series, books, games, sure Delta is more secretive, but still would be nice to see them
That is such a good question
Six was such a good series
Just started playing Modern Warfare 2019 and the first thing I peeped was no real American operators in that game so besides commander graves and Alex I can’t name another American MW character I’d like to see in game
To be fair, the CIA isn't * supposed* to be operating in U.S. soil, anyways. That being said, I'd rather just see our representation as just being regular ground pounders like in the original series. Which arguably, a lot of our dedicated 11b are on equal playing fields with the vast majority of nations' top elites already. But I also say that having fallen out of CoD forever ago in favor of things like Fallujah, HLL, and Tarkov.
Seal Team 6 was mentioned in the original COD MW2. They were part of the AI teammates alongside 141 during oil rig mission and rescuing prisoner 627 from the Gulag.
Also in Cod 4 Shock and Awe Mission
Only Seal Team Six and Delta Force are classified as Tier One units. The rest of the Seal Teams and Special Operations Units are considered Tier Two.
Correction, SEALS are a T2 unit. Delta group is T1.
I love that we get to see new stories for the og characters and expansions to characters like gaz and ghost but there is characters to are yet to be introduced in this rebooted universe like frost roach sandman there could be a mission where someone is in trouble and task force 141 is not there we cut to sandman leading a team to rescue the hostage and follow him for a couple of missions with task 141 being put to the side that’s why I enjoyed the og MW because it wouldn’t be the same character and follow their story still impacting the overall main story
Could you talk about in a future video why the Aussies aren't in the game, I know there are some operators but why not important operators or an important campaign character like ghost or soap?
Well here’s the thing, the OG Modern Warfare had originally the SAS investigating Zakhaev, cause he was their case, and the Intel for the ops came from the Americans and at that time both Militaries are working in an alliance. It was after OG MW, that Shepard had created TF141 in MW2 whereby its members were loaned out from US Allies. In the reboot however, TF141 has always been a CIA Task Force under Kate Laswell and Price is Kate’s Asset as the British have loaned him to the US Government. Furthermore all these alliances and operations have been done under the cooperation of US and UK Governments
BBQ from mw3 is rocking aor1 so I would assume that’s what he is
We never really played as seals in the modern warfare games. Modern Warfare original we played as marines and MW2 we played as army rangers in the American element sides. Why not as seals
I agree with you on task force 141 being way to split up. They start to feel less like a group of people working together on the same goal and more like a group of people with the same ideology. I think the best way to fix this would be to have main characters for different branches of the military instead of playing as different characters in task force 141. This would allow the game to have task force 141 be in the same place and have a different main character with a different group of people somewhere else chasing down a different lead. I also think Farrah and Alex shouldn’t really be apart of task force 141 since they’re the leaders of the urzikstan rebel militia and kinda forces the modern warfare games to take place in urzikstan if they want them apart of the story.
Can you make a video about soaps replacement following his death in mw3. Roach as his replacement?
Branwolf do you think the weapons from advanced warfare and infinite warfare could be build in the USA and use in real life.
I'm not sure I would think that if enough time passes almost anything is possible
Task force 141 did exists in real life and they were lead by a us general. There is nothing wrong with that but I think the biggest issue with the task force 141 in the new series is that it is so reliant on just those 4 characters. The task force was designed to be a multinational task force the best of the best of all the nato countries and that’s what the new series is missing. Mw2019 was the closest resemblance of what that would have looked like in real life. But mw2 started drifting away from that realism and with mw3 the realism is no longer there
Sgt Paul Jackson and Lt Vasquez should be apart of the Task force in the New mw universe since they are Alive
I mean iirc from my understanding chris kyle’s team got pissy when other seal teams asked if they could use the punisher logo so it might be something like that, or it could just be the cod devs being teaboos, judging by how US Military command are portrayed in the campaign (Nolan and Shepherd) I’m leaning towards the latter.
Lack of diversity in the factions in game, and instead, they are putting it inside Bios so they talk about history facts and factions records. Good or bad idea? Idk really. But what i don't like is factions like enemy vs ally in Vanguard if i remember without identity.
Edit: Nice vid bro
By tier 1 SEAKs you mean DEVGRU for the 141 connection Delta would be better since they are based off the SAS
In MWII, thsoe guys are actually US Army Rangers and they also work with the SpecGru group.
That's a Different Faction. In Cod 4 Seal Team 6 was its own faction not Army Rangers
@@hurricane7727
That was the classic COD4/MW1, what i am talking about is the reboot universe of Modern Warfare series.
I do think after mw2 & 3 it would be interesting to see some US soldiers think badly of tf 141 mainly because in that one mission in Chicago didn’t all the marines they have die under their command plus with the death of shepherd it could leave them being hunted by the US. I can only see delta force or seal team being used for this role
Yeah that would be pretty cool tbh
I heard in cod ghosts Thomas merrick was a navy seal but had the rank of captain and I was confused, shouldn’t his rank be a navy lieutenant, navy lieutenant junior grade or a navy commander because from what I heard navy captains don’t fight alongside navy seals or I’m just confused because when I saw the flashback mission in Venezuela rorke called him a sergeant, there’s no sergeants in the navy because the equivalent rank is petty officer first class
And I saw that merrick had a us army ranger title on his chest back in the flashback mission and I was like what the heck he’s a navy seal
It’s called money ! I like the older cod way more than the new ones
Alex Keller was delta
@@FeelmyFondue and nows he's farahs side kick
Alex Keller was Former Delta Yeah. He is CIA Special Activities Division/Center a Paramilitary Unit.
I never knew why special forces like delta force and SEALS haven’t made an appearance in mw yet it would be great to see them, I mean like graves said war is everywhere but the SAS is doing American stuff and it gets annoying because I’m tired of seeing the British because there being too overused
@@deandanielson8950 for sure I know what you mean I think having more units would make it even more interesting
Delta force were definitely in the old MW3 but I agree we def need some more American SOF representation in the newer cod games for sure
Especially the US Army rangers
to be honest it's just fan service. fan service will always ruin media.🤷♂
Where's delta tho
And the rangers, green berets, and jtf2
Wait till you see the seals in black ops
Because Activision/Treyarch whatever company, cannot write anymore. At all.
If you look back at the original Modern Warfare games 1/2/3 you'll see amazing attention to detail
Multi Faction Soldiers, Weapons, killstreaks and equipment, announcers as well
Modern Warfare had SAS, Spetznaz, SEALs, Loyalists, etc
Modern Warfare 2 had 141. Shadow Company, Inner circle , Loyalists, OpFor, again same was 1 but a few new ones
Modern Warfare 3 had the same, add in ranger, german army etc.
AU modern Warfare just has tacticool trash so people spend money on it. They couldn't give two shits about actual value of telling a story or immersion for your satisfaction
Also shouldn't Sgt Paul Jackson be alive in the Au Modern Warfare
The Navy Seal are not tier one, they're tier two, DEVGRU is a tier one unit. But the best of the best is Delta Force.
DEVGRU and DELTA would be in cod not seals. Although it is a bit confusing. DEVGRU is seal team 6 which is the most funded and the most used anti Terrorist group and DELTA FORCE is the same but it open ended they don't just hire from the NAVY thy hire from all branches
To be honest Seals already have plenty of games and storylines about them....their not the only ones!!!!
Tbh, Seals are cool, but I don't think they would've added anything to the story. In the original MW3, Delta acted as a link for the then disavowed 141 as a source and receiver of actionable intel to take down Makarov. Here, Seals would just be another CTU doing the same shit as 141, just under a different flag. There's not really anything that they specialize in that 141 can't do themselves. If there's no good reason for them to be there, it just ends up feeling like a way to get cool factor without earning it
It wouldve been great to see devgru, rangers, and delta force in MWII and MWIII, but unfortunately it seems like there just wasnt the same effort and attention to detail being put into the aesthetic and artstyle of the game in the sequels so we didnt get any new US SOF. Shadow company became the stand in US faction of the game, probably because it was easier to design them since they didnt need any reference. MW had marsoc, but their gear got downgraded in MWII. That game also couldve used the great looking ranger skins they made and had army rangers be the group you work with just like in the original, and seals couldve showed up on the oil rig mission, and helped with the final mission in the city instead of marines. MWIII also obviously shouldve had delta but that campaign was so rushed and terrible it was never gonna have anything cool or new in it anyway
The only reason is that new MWs are a reboot, it has different story but they have to use old characters for advertisment
Where's Sgt Paul Jackson and Vasquez?
@@hurricane7727 yeah I mean like popular/iconic characters
@@the_true_pepol Vasquez was in Cod M and people like Usmc Missions. In Cod 4 Nintedo ds Usmc got more Missions than Console
@@the_true_pepol Sgt Paul Jackson had a Worse death than Ghost or Roach did
Ive wondered this as well, I mean SAS is cool and all but it made no sense in MW2s campaign, Stolen US weapons in Mexico and a later raid in CHICAGO of all places would rule SAS out unless requested specifically by the host nation (which is highly unlikely) The US has a plentiful of the most capable warfighters in the world within its arsenal, for the chicago mission a FBI HRT element would likely be deployed (training pipeline based off CAG) and it got to the point where the president invoked the insurrection act because of the situation, DEVGRU, CAG and other units could have been used. For the mexico situation with shadowy CIA handlers in the background, that would likely be a ground branch operation, or even CAG (CAG has worked in mexico in the past)
comes down to reee cpt Price, ghost reeee and poor story writing
We do need more american operatives, & more military sim operators in general, at least we have Commander Graves. 🇺🇸
Can't operate in the states as they aren't allowed they have to operate abroad
Let's clarify some things together.
First, Navy SEALs AREN'T tier one operators. SEAL Team 6 is, though, but because it's a DEVGRU team. Anyone who is showing exemplary skills in their natural SEAL teams have an opportunity to try out for DEVGRU, also known as SEAL team 6.
2, Task Force 141 is a JSOC unit (Joint Special Operations Command). JSOC comprises teams of special forces members in the U.S. Armed Forces, and some Allied Forces also.
(There was also a real life TF141 called TF144/TF166 or something like that. Look it up)
Anyway, JSOC operates with the United States Military since it's run by the U.S. military.
If you're wondering why more Navy SEALs aren't in the game, it's because the developers didn't have much knowledge on our military to make everything right, (shown through small mistakes in the game and in the MW2 Reboot,) and because Navy SEALs aren't assigned to the same tasks as JSOC units. Navy SEALs are more focused on Naval and water-borne operations. I'm not saying they don't operate in other areas or terrains, but that's where they focus their efforts.
Anyway, if you're wondering why SEAL team 6 wasn't in there or CAG (Delta Force,) it's because the developers lacked some knowledge on groups like such, and because it's following TF141.
Sometimes, JSOC will work with other Special Operations Forces (like seen with TF141 working with MARSOC in the MW2 Reboot), but not all the time. Besides, some of the missions are their business, or they only need a platoon of JSOC to do it, no more needed. (Implementing DEVGRU or CAG would require at least 2 platoons in a mission, which again they wouldn't often need.
The other thing is JSOC does their own things and focuses on the problems given to them. (I.e if CAG is working on taking out one insurgent leader, and JSOC is focused on another). JSOC does JSOC things, CAG and DEVGRU do their own.
So, to answer your question, the developers didn't know enough, and other special forces wouldn't really work with JSOC, rather they'd focus on their own problems.
Also, CAG/Delta Force is the true tier one. They're the best on the planet. Look them up. You won't necessarily find much, but you will find some. They're highly secretive, and they're the baddest🤷♂️
@TheTactician5.56 kinda late we already clarified them 🥲
@@BranWolfYT I still felt obligated to do my part. Not sure anybody talked about JSOC, though.
I agree that the American aspect of COD has been lacking. In the past 3 games you play as an American in one or them (2019). British SAS basically being the main characters of a “joint” American/British task force has always irked me. More American conventional and SOF elements should have been used.
Call of duty lovefest with the SAS is getting old. Especially when you had missions with Mexico that would’ve been the ideal time to introduce characters from Delta force working with Alejandro. Could’ve been team metal or a new team.
141 is just four SAS dudes with the CIA chick now. Not to mention, CoD has gone into all of these stupid “operators” that are simply pop culture references. They need to bring back the actual military aspect to these games, not the heroes running around all by themselves.
I rather have MARSOC, Force Recon, Army ISA, or Green Berets. Better yet, Pararescue or Combat Air Traffic Controller or any other little known American SF units like the Rangers Regimental Reconnaissance Company instead of overhyped and overrated SEALs. SEALs right now are trigger-happy, vain glory-hounded celebrity-obsessed, sociopathic, psychopathic cowboys and are the opposite of everything expected of a silent professional SOF soldier. If the SEALs is in the next game, I rather the SEAL team be traitors seeking to setup, frame, and try to eliminate TF141 and other NATO SF operators only to get wiped out by Shadow Company, ATLAS PMC, or Wagner arriving in time to save TF141 from the evil SEALs.
well Where they at You May Ask? Gone, Reduced to Atoms, i mean The British SAS, TF141, Konni Group and The ULF are the Stars of the Show so the rest of the Teams have Left the MW World, i mean The American Element has been not in the Rebooted MW games (i know Shadow Co. and the Demon Dogs Exists) so why should be the Other Teams of Other Countries that are not Urzikstan, British or Russian than Your Cooked in the Terms of Screen Time, This ain't too good, i hope they Bring Some Badass Units for the "Ignored" Countries in The Rebooted MW, i feel like it's the Thing that 'll Revive the game To Full HP I Mean we already seen them have Badass Group of Soldier that Represent Those "Ignored" Countries Like Shadow Co. and Los Vaqueros, I Hope we see More New Characters/Units for these Countries and Their backstory, it's The Only way They Could Revive the Dead Body that is, The Rebooted MW3.(I Have Arrived Late, Again...)
Sorry bro only seam team 6 navy seals are only Tier 1 but vanilla seals are Tier 2 and great video tho.
@@stephenhampton7444 yeah I learned that today I appreciate it thank you
there should not be actual military branches in COD. It should go into alternative universe where pinky rabbits with dragon guns are a thing.
Why would you want Seals, Delta or any other guys in a game like COD lol?
No, only the SEALs from DEVGRU. The SEAL teams are Tier-Two.
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I wish MWIII gave us more milsim instead of goofy Fortnite skins
Delta force is better than navy seals 😂
I'm just so sick of having brits as the protagonist in an American game.
I think part of why we don’t see more Americans units and/or operators is because the writers and creators are to lazy in the launch and post launch story just to make more cash from the ugliest skins they make.
Definitely the skins have been horrendous lately
@@BranWolfYT I wish they would make some more mil sim skins related to a more realistic story unlike the past two/three season that are absolute BULLSHIT.
@@redhutsgaming3067 I agree
Seal Team 6 was in Call of Duty 4
navy seals the best of the best? make me laugh
I loved how realistic given the game style old mw was it used real uniforms real guns hell something you don’t see anymore real recognizable vehicles and even then why are Russians using black hawk helicopters I hope for black ops 6 they use the military equipment each side used but what worries me is in the trailer your shooting down an American helicopter I just wish it would go back to the realistic stuff not this made up crap
They’re tier 2 and not even close to the best of the best the rangers green berets delta force and cia special operations are way better than seals
So I learned
In the first MW series each game introduced us to a new faction , but frankly focusing on the most important ( TF 141 ) is more important than focusing on other less important factions , because in the MW first series the weakest aspect in any MW game was the American side especially at the level of the story 😀
Not really. Usmc Killed alot of Al Assads Op for Soldiers. Sgt Paul Jackson Killed 418 Arabian Soldiers and the Nuke Killed over 90 percent of Al Assad's Forces. The ones at the Safehouse are the last of his Forces
Lmfao there is basically 0 authenticity to the looks or story of this game.
The story is just a rehash of MCU shit.
The skins suck in multiplayer because you have clown 1 wearing green, red, black and purple on your team but clown 2 wearing green, purple, red, and black is shooting at you. They shouldve kept the milsim operators from 2019 at least.
I dont give a fuck if you paid for them shit skins
RANGERS 1234, Griggs, and a couple others are the best looking we've ever had, not to mention all of those standard military and marsoc guys that you just dont see after the campaign
Modern Warfare is built around SAS and you already have fps and tps games that are already american based games so i dunno what are you complaining about. Just play games if is navy seal based then. lol soft
Black Ops is American based
@@hurricane7727 Exactly and that is based on early years of american special forces why complain?
@@brentbynoe3767 Not complaining. I like Bops1 history perspective
Seal teams are just getting too much attention nowadays.
In real life, there's so much drama and backstabbing to one another in the community. Not to mention the uncovering of controversies one after another, including the death of John Chapman, the Medal of Honor recipient who stayed behind to cover the extraction of his Seal team unit he was assigned to.
Delta Force only got their small share of fictional fame such as Delta Force video game titles back in the late 90s and early 2000s. Not that big but they're widely remembered for their nostalgia. They should be more involved in the CoD MW series since this is a Tier 1 unit that takes on high risk operations same as the SAS.
Since that Delta is the American version of the SAS, it would be cool to have them paired side by side.