Let's Talk About Sony's PS5 Liquid Metal Issue! Is YOUR PS5 At Risk?
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Forget about Liquid Metal and start using something better: Honeywell PTM7950 Super Highly Thermally Conductive PCM Pad , and you're not going back to that crap that is Liquid Metal , Already most good services in Europe use it in PS5 and earlier models , Works very well on laptops too .
Thermal Grizzly paste is not suitable for PS5, the best at the moment is Honeywell PTM7950, in our service it has already been tested on 323 PS5 units and 457 PS4 units and after more than 9 months they all work perfect.
Thermal Grizzly paste is not even comparable to Honeywell PTM7950. it's a waste of your money to buy a Thermal Grizzly. Just remember to buy only the original Honeywell PTM7950.
Why do they use a conductive thermal heat sink compound instead of a non-conductive compound such as Z9 (Silicone and Zinc Oxide)?
@@bblod4896 because the apu are over clocked amd thermal paste just won't cut it
@@ellisgarbutt1925
This stuff on Amazon: Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut has a Recommended Temperature: 10°C to +140°C
Characteristics.
The paste I use for RF work has a working temperature of -55°C to +205°C.
I assume you are talking about thermal conductivity then?
@@bblod4896 the heat dispersion on the PS5 can't cope with normal thermal paste.
I've just flipped my 6 week old PS5 1200 series from vertical to horizontal position. Glad I came across this story. Great video.
You should flip it back to vertical but in the opposite direction (upside down) for a few days so some of the liquid metal that seeped out can seep back in.
@@SithLord2066 don't give wrong advice, that doesn't happen with all ps5 systems, just put it horizontally
@@JorgeRodriguez-xz5ec totally agree just lay it flat had mine flat since launch and had no issues
Just placed mines flat I was 2 months in vertical not taking the risk
Just flipped my launch to horizontal just in case. No issues except hdmi I had fixed through warranty
Why is no one talking about the fact that liquid metal doesn't leak like water? Has anyone ever used it? Those pictures are suspicious. Please look up liquid metal application and see for yourself the density of it. The foam protectors are there so when you press down on the heat sink it doesn't squish too much to the sides. It looks like user errors to me or possible factory defect during LM application.
Looks like the article was retracted and it was debunked. What a suprise it was basically clickbait... Enjoy your ps5s\future potential PC builds guys.
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Exactly on point
Yes and the ps5 is not gettin Hot or anything While using or anything like that. Go to your lokal pc dealer buy a syringe with that stuff and pour it on a flat surfface ,then tilt the surfface.Look what happens
Ok pony
Yes, totally suspicious, a repair man showing what he repairs.
Cope more.
I use my electronics horizontal even when advertised for vertical use. Just seems like a logical way to use something that has moving parts,liquid and a spinning disc inside of it.
With how stupidly massive the ps5 is thats kinda unfeasible for a lot of people
In the past i had issues with ps2 scratching my games when putted verticaly so i never did it again but when i bought ps5 it looked better verticaly but i was still worried about disc scratch and after some research in the second day i found a french video talking about this problem of liquid metal and i was surprised and glad to see it so i can prevent myself by doing this mistake and now 7 months has passed since my purchase and no problem
that’s funny because in a desktop the mobo is mounted vertically.
@@artbyddp ive been thinking the same
@@artbyddp to be fair with RAD 1979, we don't know they have a desktop. Also, a desktop mobo doesn't have moving parts and the HDD and CD-DVDR are mounted horizontally.
You can say the H&F have moving parts but, that's grabbing for straws, afaic.
It would be good if you can have a look at the new 1200 model Coder to see if there's any change👍
no change at all concerning the metal liquid issue / problem
I posted this on your 1200 model tear down video and I want to post it here as well because its more relevant to this video.
Everyone, I'm pretty sure I know what the issues is with the liquid metal. First I'm a machinist and we deal with silver plated pins for satellites, etc. Every time the Plate company returns the pins there is a "dog boning" effect (edges of pin are a thicker than the center of the pin).
So I believe this can effect every model of console. Whats happening is there probably plating the heat sink vertical which causes more nickle material to attach to one side. This would have a "mound" effect, a 0.001 or more thickness difference between one side or the other. If there not smoothing or granite stoning a smooth even thickness afterwards there will be uneven pressure between the die (APU) and the heat sink surface. Over time the liquid metal is squeezed out of the higher pressure area and spreads to the less pressured area causing a dry spot, eventually leading to a hot spot and overheating. I would love to see TheCod3r take a square edge to the heat sink and the die to see just how flat those surfaces are? My bet is the hot spot ones are not flat.
This to me is going to effect the 1000, 1100, 1200, models in time. How many have uneven plating? Who knows, but there will be many that will not have uneven pressure and there will be x number of consoles that will.
Reason Sony uses liquid metal is because their over clocking the hell out that chip to get everything possible out of it( also sound good for marketing). So it needs to be sufficiently cooled. For another model they can use a more powerful chip that doesn’t have to be pushed so hard to get the same power. So normal thermal paste can be used instead of liquid metal
And thats a lie
@@amunra1743 No its not. The PS5 GPU has a high clock speed. It therefore generates more heat.
@@xx_epic_gamer_xxsherrz9132having a higher clock speed is not the same as overclocking.
@@homiej8163 there's literally news stories about it being overclocked so as not to appear significantly weaker then the XSX use your preferred search engine to find them as they're a couple years old by now.
@@xx_epic_gamer_xxsherrz9132 and that's another lie.
Good job bro.. U r a teacher i attend class everyday u know it bro...
Thanks for the video. I just switched my ps5 to a horizontal position like 15 minutes ago. Great content and also very humble guy.
Here’s my experience… I’ve owned a PS5 disc version since day one launch. It has been vertical the entire time I’ve owned it. Zero issues.
I'm no expert, but surely the fault lies within the part that keeps the liquid metal sealed in? If it's leaking out then that means it's not being contained properly, regardless of whether it's in a vertical position. Gravity shouldn't have an effect on it if it was contained properly.
So it’s only maybe possibly going to leak if the console gets bumped around or knocked over and breaks the seal. Otherwise it’s all good and nothing to to worry about keeping it vertical.
We’ll play horizontal and display vertical. Problem fixed???
Must be something to do with the viscosity of the liquid metal maybe? I've used liquid metal in PC builds for years with none of that "protection" around the cpu and never had an issue 🤷♂️
I really appreciate your way of communicating.
I think that if your PS5 is kept vertical and is not moved, then metal leaks is not an issue. I think it will come from people regularly moving their PS5's. Mine has been kept vertical next to the TV since i got it.
Same here mate your right people move them all the time that why get these problems the only time I moved mine is when I had to clean the fan form the dust getting it
Don't forget gravity + vibration from the disc drive will play a role as well
What model do you have
Eh? It’s a liquid, add gravity, it’ll move.
Its so simple n sony r just stupid (gravity+ liquid metal= only 1 position to avoid leak= horizontal) instead they made a floppy fucked up design inside out that u cant fit anywhere
Time for an update video with the new developments of the article being essentially retracted etc.
the first gen ps5's look better sealed, and had more copper metal. the newer ps5's just look they went cheaper with the cpu and less copper heatsink. also my personal preference I would never go with liquid metal for my PC. i done aio a lot when my older pc's but I recently went back to doing only fan cooling and haven't been happier.
Seems like having to work the APU so hard that it NEEDS liquid metal to stay within acceptable thermals is a bad way to design a console...
05:20 seems that you made the liquid metal seep to the left when tearing the foam off. The liquid metal was sticking to the foam, so when you teared the foam off a little drop of liquid metal was dragged to the left.
You're partially right there, indeed. However, the liquid metal was, as you say, to the left and on the foam. It should never have to hit the foam. And trust me, the LM was already seeping under the foam too
@@TheCod3r wdym it should never touch the foam? Isn’t that what it’s there for? If you remove the foam ofc it’s going to leak out, all you wanted to do was make a video fear mongering for views
Well if the liquid metal was contained properly it would never seep to the left, and should never have to hit the foam in the first place.
If you think about it this way: The foam is indeed there to help stop liquid metal spilling onto the board, granted. However, over time, the liquid metal gets soaked up into the foam and eventually there's not enough on the SoC to actually effectively cool the system. Either that or it soaks so much into the foam over time that it causes the foam to become full, to the point it will no longer effectively do its' job (meaning it'll no longer be able to actually soak up the liquid metal) so it would eventually run over and onto the board anyway.
Now, if Sony actually designed a good system and didn't have to overclock the SoC, they would never have needed liquid metal. If they didn't want the system to look like something from the 2050s, they would be able to put a better heatsink in and effectively cool the system with thermal paste rather than with liquid metal. LM isn't designed for consumer electronics, it's designed for overclockers. Overclockers take precautions which includes a lot more than a little piece of foam.
What Sony should be doing if they want to use liquid metal, is build a proper wall with a proper gasket around the edge, and have the heatsink sitting inside the wall rather than just on top. Sorry but anyone with a brain cell can see that this is going to cause an issue. Gravity will win hands down 100% of the time. I don't care how smart the engineers at Sony are, they aren't as smart as nature.
As someone who has applied liquid metal to damn near everything that has a nickel plated or copper heatsink, I can very much tell you Sony went WAY WAY overboard on the PS5 application. I've used liquid metal on Nintendo Switch consoles and laptops (obviously they will be in all sorts of different orientations) with zero issue. You basically want to apply it so as the whole die surface looks wet and that's it, no pools etc. Granted you may have to do a 2nd application to copper heatsinks due to it absorbing into the copper creating an alloy, but after a 2nd application you should be good.
I am an electrical engineer (actually having worked for many years in the semiconductor industry) and I fully agree to your concerns - and btw: this is the reason that I have used my PS5 in horizontal mode from day 1 ;-)
Liquid metal doesn't leak though lol.. likely those pictures were a user error spilling it or a factory mistake (potentially even the console being dropped). That's not how liquid metal even works it stays still
@@malazan6004 Still better be safe than sorry always. Even though it adds 0.00000001 chance of risk i won't take that. Also don't forget that people who use this console generally have better temps with horizontal.
@@malazan6004 It's liquid, right? Well, there is a thing call gravity. What would happen to liquid if it's free fallen? Glue doesn't stay still on a board being vertically. Now add in heat, it's going to be all runny.
@@tr1bes There's something called "PRESSURE". If the plate do its job well , you don't need to worry about how you set your PS5 . There's no room letting the liqid be free fallen.
As a rule of thumb, in my house all gaming consoles are layed flat, never horizontally, putting them vertically there is more of a chance of it falling or getting knocked.... That doesn't include tvs or tower pcs... LMAO
with all due respect but following your logic … do you also put the TV horizontally? And what about tower pc gaming?
And what about your switch ?
I had my PS3 with liquid metal seating vertical and decided not long ago to lay it flat after finding a bit of liquid metal on the motherboard once I opened. I'm glad it survived, especially being a well taken cared of BC model that had a brand new RSX from a slim model installed.
@@alessandrovalori4638 let me redo my post so you can better understand.
@@alessandrovalori4638 oh and a TV isn't a gaming console, also a tower pc is called a tower pc for a reason ... your logic is flawed sir.
I remember seeing posts on Reddit claiming Switch stick drift was a myth 🙄
I saw you in the media talking about this! You were flipping Sony the bird in the picture 😂
I’ve had my ps5 for almost two years and heard about this today and switched it from vertical to horizontal. I’m sure it’s fine but it’s not worth the risk.
Had mine for less than 2 weeks and I already switched 😂.
It has no issue to place vertically
Almost a year vertical and just went horizontal after buying a stand
Clearly you really don't get it .
Bro same 😂 I feel fully after spending 3k on a pc but still
Sony have to respond because this will impact owners and as you pointed out, this is an inadequate design and a ticking time bomb
I guess just to be safe you can put it horizontally, as Sony has confirmed we can put our PS5 horizontally too,
But if your PS5 have less ventilation space when put horizontally i guess then just keep it vertically because this is a super rare issue where as cramped PS5 getting overheating is a well known and confirmed one
I've had my PS5 placed horizontally since i bought it back in Feb '21. It's placed on top of a table so nothing is covering on the top or the sides.
I saw you at cex bull street. You make me proud to be a British videogamer. kudos for finding this fault top man.
Bigger issue IMO is the HDMI ports on these keep breaking
Physically? Or a fault on the circuit?
I knew this was going to come, and im glad to see it. Keep the quality coming mate!
Yep keep lying ! My PlayStation 5 is standing for more then 1 year & 8 months , now stfu & lie somewhere else hahahahahhahha this person is going to close his channel soon for lying & misinformation. That's what you get if you lie !
@@Pxxsy_Liquid ok fanboy
The reason I kept my PS5 horizonal I just don't trust the Apu gasket for lack of an better term.
I put mine horizontal straight out the box when i got it 2 months ago. I have the latest 1200 revision. Time will tell if is makes a difference but it can't hurt can it. Also goes without saying... Make sure there is good air flow where you put the console. The amount of times I've seen them in tv cabinets with little to no room for air flow.
Thanks for letting me know bro A lot of good information 😊 👍🏾
Had it vertical for like 10 months and had no issues, still flipping it just in case lmao
You also dont't know orientation the unit has been stored or shipped by Sony before you get it. The shops might store or display them vertically before you purchase it. So the damage may have started before you even start it up.
Another awesome video Philip!
I see you're also a member of the bed / wild hair fraternity like myself. 🙂Really appreciate your honesty in your channel videos. Keep it up fella.
I wonder if a slightly thicker seal around the apu would be better than stock. Or is it possible that some Ps5’s were assembled with a little too much liquid metal?
wipe all this messy metal liquid and apply Honeywell PTM7950 thermic pad like the others do... that will fix the issue for good
@@danbigboss6484 So unless I’m misunderstanding you, the Ps5 will be cooled exclusively by the pad?
@@danbigboss6484not enough thermal conductivity
I have used plastidip to conformal coat boards in the past. At around £11 a can it is very cost effective and I was able to apply 3 coats to one PC motherboard.
However I have only ever used it for one customer who had desktops in an industrial environment that were vulnerable to moisture and it worked very well, the customer was very pleased as faults were far less common.
You can get aerosol can clear conformal coating probably best option if you want to coat the whole board but do it outside as it gives off fumes when drying
@@KarlUKmidlands I looked at it in my electrical wholesaler, but £24 for 400ml was a bit excessive.
I was using it on Pentium desktops that are borderline worthless, I was selling them spare units for £70 with their software preinstalled, that they could just swap out and basically throw away.
I offered them the conformal coated workstations for £100 to try and that seemed to hit the price point and they are lasting lot longer it seems, but with second hand workstations it is hard to judge.
imo liquid metal has no place in consumer electronics, its purely for enthusiasts
At the moment I don't have a PS5, although I am getting one soon. As such, this issue doesn't concern me at the moment; it's just that when I do get my ps5, I plan on keeping it for at least 10 years, if not for ever! I don't want it that 6 years down the line, my ps5 just breaks(my parents probably wouldn't buy me a new one). Now sure, you could just place the system horizontally, but personally, I really don't like the way that looks; I'd probably just keep mine vertically. Anyway, thanks for the clarification on how serious of a problem this is. I hope that by the time I get my console(very soon), this issue is fixed, and a thing of the past.
If it was unbreakable then how would you go to buy another one when your warranty expires?? This is how sneaky companies like Sony are nowadays. That's why your warranty lasts for only two years, because that's the actual lifespan of every kind of machine that they produce until it starts to break down slowly, and since I'm very sure that they are very much aware of what's going on in the Internet with all this new information about the frigging liquid metal issue and since they haven't yet responded with a nice excuse it can only mean one thing, and that thing is that they don't want to get exposed which is really stupid because they're already exposed anyways. Those two years that they give is the most tricky kind of policy they could find, because that's the exact turning point as this is when everything begins to occur, which means it's a very very f@cked up situation unless you're the lucky one. Sony must immediately let us know what's happening with all this because noone wants to spend another 700 euros on a second ps5 because our warranty expired 😒.
Those who say it's all lies don't want to hear anything bad obout their beloved PS5, But let's think about this logically, you cannot defy the laws of gravity and liquid will always be pulled down.
PC CPUs are built different from consoles as they have a heat spreader which covers the caps around the die, consoles have a bare die as that is the best way to dissipate the heat to the heatsink just like a laptops CPU/GPU, some will say "yes but some laptops have liquid metal and they run fine"
Yes they do because the majority of the time they are laid flat so the CPU/GPU is horizontal.
But the last thing I will say is that "consoles" are not meant to be portable and should stay in the same place and not carried around to your friends house and plonked on the nearest flat surface.
Fantastic video Phil full of useful information thanks
I think when your making something in the tens of millions there will be some QA issues for some units but overall I don’t think there’s anything to worry about.
Agreed, just because there’s a failure point, it’s quite a leap to say the design is fundamentally flawed. The Liquid Metal egress has only been witnessed in consoles needing service; that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the cause. It can be, but the circumstantial factors that caused the leak are highly subjective. I don’t think you can objectively call it a design flaw. It’s merely anecdotal evidence.
Only time will tell how common this issue is, since it's very specific it only affects those people keep it in vertical. So at least 5 years into its lifespan we will see the reports what % this is.
So its easier to keep it in horizontal if you can.
@@DrRhyhm
Apparently they lied and it's not a big problem at all
I think the PS5 SLIM will adress this issue and it will be more visually pleasing in horizontal position!
Think that all you want
@@saucemasterx911 🤣
It will launch PS5 are ones effected from what I read
I have a launch ps5, vertical. I've been getting recent shut downs out of no where (over heating Im guessing), seems like only with PS5 games. Around an hour in, ps4 games work for hours. I tore it down and cleaned it, also mounted it far away from other stuff in a big open area. It was trapped behind my tv before with my amps and stuff. So far it's been alright but if this keeps up I'm definitely keeping this in mind.
I've had the same issue, you just need vacuum and clean out ur ps5
Great video, thank you for sharing this. Subscribed!
Mine is perfectly fine coming up to 3 years old bought day one & no problems at all
I've liquid metaled my delidded CPU on my gaming pc for years now and I've always used 3 coats of clear nail vanish and never had a issue. maybe Sony should look into something as easy to do as this
Maybe there isn't actually a problem and the fact that every deffective PS5 end up in the hands of ppl who repair PS5s is skewing ppls perceptions ? I mean its veyry logical that all PS5s in a repair shop have problems, and there is way under 1% of the consoles with this problem, so its a simple case of every PS5 that have a problem in their seal and therefore have a problem with the liquid metal, end up in a repair shop so...
Can you please clarify for me: I read everywhere this issue was seen on "new and unboxed units".
1. Why does someone open a fresh unit to check for spilling liquids
2. If a unit arrives doa out of the box, why does the buyer bring it to a repair shop instead of reporting to the seller or Sony direct ?
Seems illogical to me.
So 3. Are these units had some sort of event like falling down or something before the need for a repair ? But still this wouldnt comply with "seen on new unboxed units".
Real or not but my PS5 is alot quieter horizontal and after 5 hours the back vents were cooler.
Could this issue be caused by them being knocked over in vertical position? Could it be the impact of them hitting the floor and being stood back up, that might be causing more severe leakage in some than others?
It certainly wouldn't help.
Still it kinda shows that ''Vertical'' position will always be risky for consoles
@@resonmon Yeah definitely. I'm just thinking that this scenario covers both sets of users who have theirs in verticle i.e. those who haven't experienced it (who maybe look after their consoles) and those who experience the issue (maybe with pets / young children etc).
For one. It's the biggest console to-date. Having anything vertical can have problem of being knock down easily. Let say a kid and or pet.
I thought that myself. Does the liquid metal become more viscous when it heats up? If so I could see a console that’s on and knocked over having this issue occurs. Otherwise I think the seal would hold
If anybody has seen terminator you know liquid metal is dangerous.
Why hasn't this happened to chippers in cpu towers then? What is different from their layout? I know plenty of people who used liquid metal on their PC towers. They sit vertical all day long
They don't use an entire gallon...
I have a release day ps5 with almost 3000 hours it's still running sweet and I'm in Australia fingers crossed 🤞
Ok so you're saying you have seen 15 or so but you're not that big of a repair company, you also said that these boards were purchased from an ebay listing. So my question is you keep saying its a design flaw yet you have no idea what has happened to these consoles before you got them.... as someone that has had to deal with electronics before and customers I can tell you now 99% of customers lie. Oh little Johnny was just playing with his ps5 and boom it caught fire all by itself. When really little Johnny got angry he threw his controller and it hit his ps5 and knocked it over.... I myself don't understand considering how you can say a PC and ps5 are different in terms of cooling. I have never ever had to coat my PC's motherboard when using liquid metal for starters. There are PC's that are extremely compact just like the ps5 and have big beefy gfx cards like a 3080 with 3 fans vibrating the crap out of it yet still no leaks... whilst I am not saying this doesn't happen I'm saying there is way more to this than a bad design
No I didn't say I purchased the ones I have seen from ebay. I literally have a video on the channel where the warranty seal is in tact. The boards I used in this video as an EXAMPLE were random boards I bought off ebay which I had no clue about, and no clue what was wrong with them
@TheCod3r you just repeated what I just said.... these boards were from a ebay listing.... so you're saying that the unopened 1 couldn't have been dropped and cause the seal to break?
@@chadstudd1616 according to the customer no it hadn't, and even if it did, it leaked under the seal, that should never happen if the seal is designed properly
@TheCod3r dude I have already explained customers lie all the time. I don't think the seal is designed to withstand a fall.....
Hmmm this is so strange when earlier today I saw a google article on this about using the ps5 vertically and the potential risk it causes
Problem with the stuff isn't the stuff itself but when it comes into contact with anything with aluminium or copper alloy and it turns the metals into mush and no guesses for what nearly every SMD is made from... I have never used it, if I want to bring temps down I use water and in fact I have just given up on my Ryzen stock cooler for a Cooler Master AIO simply as the old cooler is good but not man enuff for my demands, I used to be known as a cryo and peltier expert once upon a time from my days of chasing the magic 3ghz single core Barton leaderboard, cryo was an absolute ballache because of condensing around the chip bye bye mobo/cpu, it was with a wide pipe water circuit and 240w Peltier I got the CPU down to very low temps and smashed that 3ghz target on a 1700 rated mobile AMD chip (lasted about a week before it popped) and even then I had to use gobs of dialectic grease as condensation would accumulate then freeze without it then on shutdown warm up and frazzle frazzle goes the electronics next power up cycle.
Thanks for the update
I agree with TheCod3r thanks for the heads up on the liquid metal issue
Hi Cod Happy New Year! 🎉🥃 I like so much you channel UA-cam you are so cool I bought may ps5 summer 2021 I have to worry vertically 15 months
Don’t be scared of this happening too you. For this to happen too you it is a very small chance most people who are currently having this problem are the people who have dropped or damaged their PS5 your console being vertical has nothing to do with this Metal Leak inside of the console. Just take care of your console don’t drop it and don’t damage it.
It's a poor design regardless because you drop a xbox series s/x and the thermal paste doesn't run everywhere like with the ps5.
@Ben Tennyson runs cooler than xsx and dropping any machine isn't good for it lol.
Dont take any negative comment personally. You are a genius bud. Best mechanics are in the smallest garages. Respect man.
It's always something with these game consoles Kind of reminds me of back in the day when the Xbox 360 came out and everybody was getting the Red ring of death. I bought two Xbox 360s and both of them caught the red ring and both of them had to get shipped to Microsoft and then they sent me some repaired and refurbished ones.
The yellow light of death was also a thing. A lot of early PS3s had that issue. When you have a highly clocked chip in a console form factor, cooling solutions can be an issue.
The logic is you bought borads of ebay that have been taken apart it's not like you took it apart & found this issue with a ps5 that's never been opened
I think you drastically increase the chances of it leaking if you open it up, the sticker looks like it’s doing what it’s supposed to do and containing it to only the die and not the other parts the chip, it could be a defect when the unit was being assembled at the factory, (no hate btw)
Going to have to open it up "eventually" anyway, liquid metal doesn't last forever and eventually needs replacing
If you watch his past videos though he had literally fixed broken consoles by just clearing up the liquid metal that was where it shouldn't be. If it was just down to it opening up, this wouldn't be the case.
In the past i had issues with ps2 scratching my games when putted verticaly so i never did it again but when i bought ps5 it looked better verticaly but i was still worried about disc scratch and after some research in the second day i found a french video talking about this problem of liquid metal and i was surprised and glad to see it so i can prevent myself by doing this mistake and now 7 months has passed since my purchase and no problem
Putting a ps2 vertically is criminal
my ps5 goes horizontal! thank you !
2023 and we have spillage issues...the tech industry is not going in the right direction
Thank you
Sony should take this on the chin and offer a brand new console to all people who own a PS5. I used to be a Sony fan, but since the Xbox One S, I've switched to Xbox.
Sony is going to deny and mabe a class-action suit to pay lawyers but just like the PS3 we do not get compensated just screwed over and get overcharged by greedy Sony once we paid they get the money and got us by the balls they just walk all over us and all we can do is no longer buy theyre products
@@Kimvanloocke I'd suggest selling your PS5 and getting an Xbox somehow.
I’ve had mine vertical for two years, and while it does get substantially warm I have a usb fan in one of the back ports, and keep the console ontop of my desk versus in a cabinet. I’ve been nervous about the clicking and cracking sounds it makes, like the plastic sides are expanding when getting hot. This being discovered as a new issue only further proves that sending anything to China for production is due to fail.
The usb fan might be hurting it. I would make sure that’s actually doing good instead of messing up air flow. I remember having one for my 4 and it made it unreasonably hot
@@TheRealmPod thanks for the tip, it’s small and low voltage and only use it to blow the air away from the console since it’s at the corner of my room and above my desk. I’ve been avoiding a tear down just to clean the fan but thank god it’s not as bad as my pro which totally raised the temp in the room after an hour.
Thanks, Phil, for this .people need to know
I don't get why we would need to pay to get our ps5 fixed due to a design flaw by Sony. Surely even if you're out of warranty you'll be covered under the consumers rights act ?
I'll keep mine vertical, it's fine, letting fear take over
Keep a fan near it you’ll be Ight
I'm gonna wait till Sony confirms or Denys this until then.... I'm vertical gang.
10-15 PS5's with this issues, but out of how many repairs roughly?
Those pictures are either user error with some idiot taking apart his ps5 or a factory fault. If anyone had ever used liquid metal or thermal pastes they would know it doesn't run and drip like water due to its density and stickiness. Companies put it in their high end laptops which are constantly moved around so RELAX people.
Yeah not every liquid runs RIP Glycerin 😭 Its like you said but in the lab we call it viscosity :)
@@MissxLariz that's the word I was looking for.
I appreciate your finding. Can It Be done on a large scale so that we know if this is a huge prob?
Have you found more faulty units have come from warmer climate areas &/or during their Summer months? Or has it been random (mixture of cool & hot climates/time of year)?
We're in the UK so we don't have the issue of warmer climates
Mines just overheated and shut down on me during spiderman 2, I've had It horizontal since February and I clean it every 8 weeks! Hardly any dust on the fan this time and the psu holes were fine :/ I'm baffled. First time it's ever done it.. thinking a liquid metal change? It used to do it all the time when vertical but never when flat
Solution may be to replace the liquid metal with a Honeywell PTM7950
I got the Liquid Metal issue on my launch PS5. It was 2 weeks old and unopened (the console) it DOES happen. But it’s extremely rare. People who think it doesn’t and is only caused by opening the console are coping idiots. My console was replaced for free by Sony and haven’t had any problems since.
Next time you make a video, please give credit to the original person who posted the content.
Seems like everyone has hijacked my Facebook post, and now claim they are PS5 experts.
My original post on Facebook, never said that there is a problem with the Liquid Metal in PS5 consoles.
There is a problem on some of them where the heat sinks are not flush, this making the Liquid Metal run down, when the PS5 is upright, causing them to overheat.
One more thing my bro, you say you the PS5 expert in your video, just remember, there are a lot of us in this world that are really good at gaming repairs.
We just don’t make videos on UA-cam on every repair we do.
This need to be pinned (unlikely however).
So the only reason of the LM running down is because the heat sink isnt flushed? And how do you check if your PS5 got this problem (unflushed heat sink)?
@@MissxLariz not sure looks like it’s a little random, maybe it was a batch.
As a former electronics engineer, I'm baffled by Sony's use of liquid metal. Having watched many of your videos over the past 12 months and observed the quality of the brands device, the whole thing looks tacky to me. I used to stare at ore at the quality Japanese engineering brought to products during the 1980's and beyond but it seems to be going in reverse. Btw, keep up the streams, they're a refreshing break from some of the crap I watch.
It's clearly a prototype which they had to rush out when the series X caught them out. The design is so unSony that it is obvious that this was a mock up design which wasn't complete.
Make that vid ,about the board.
Yes, I’d love to see that too!
So I’ve had mine vertical since I purchased it (6 months ago) I haven’t had any issues but I do give it a weekly clean, just pop the covers off and clean out the fan and stuff nothing too deep. I game pretty much every day sometimes for hours on end. Should I change it to horizontal? 👀 all these tiktoks, UA-cam videos and articles got me freaking out lol
Recently I’ve been having overheating messages on my ps5. Tried different positions and room ventilation option with various games, opened the ps5 and cleaned the heat sink to near perfection and the problem persists. Could it be a software bug or the liquid metal ?
I've never once had the message mine just cuts out completely.. it's infuriating
I don't know if it's a liquid metal issue, but the moment I put mine horizontal, Ghost of Tsushima stopped crashing on manual saves.
Thanks for the video, such a clear explanation and detail on the issue. Much appreciated!
I've had my PS5 since day 1 release and have had it standing vertically this entire time, even as we speak. Would you say day 1 releases are less prone to this issue compared to later revisions? Should I be worried? Please let me know.
if it will happen it would have happened when you first used it
@gsshunter I'm now too paranoid now to live off that probability lmao
@@PixelJunks look at it this way PCs have used liquid metal for year's and the only time it leaks on them is user error IE not fitting the heatsink tight enough and the CPU socket on PC motherboard's don't have all the extra protective seal's around it. Imo the issue with the ps5 is people have dropped them which would displace it onto the transistors and resistors not capacitors as he calls them in the video
What if you only use the PS5 for like 20-25 minutes, and once or twice a week? I usually only play with it once or twice a week...
Is there any reason you can’t replace the liquid metal with regular thermal paste?
I have my ps5 on the horizontal because I noticed the fan works harder in vertical position
Mines been upright since release day yall are so gullible
I've had my console for over a year, I moved it flat because I'm a worrier. I understand metal expands when It heats up so it can move. But then again I do move it around when I clean it and take out the fan to spray WD-40 contact cleaner.. but I don't want to keep taking the fan out bc I've seen port snap off fhe board not unlike HDMI has endured.
I guarantee ppl fiddling about trying to force it in is the issue.
After seeing a few articles showing thsi issue i changed my setup and was able to lay it horizontal it definitely runs colder since
The funny thing is is that mine used to be vertical heard all this Liquid Metal in ps5 put it horizontal mine used to stand vertical and when it gets put horizontal it dies after 2 months of changing it to horizontal power is gone no lights pop up nothing R.I.P-PS5🕊️
Funny nobody else is saying its happened to them mush..