Hi all There are two things here I feel I need to address. First of all, the team has put a huge amount of time and detail into assessing these 11 cars across criteria we know are important to the majority of buyers. For family-oriented medium-sized SUVs the focus is on daily use practicality and core value offering at purchase. The reason we have split out all the assessment points in such detail on the story is to show you where each of the cars performs in these specific sections, with the Haval H6 a deserved winner across the board. Is it the best at everything? No. But it is a tremendously well-rounded proposition at this place in the market. Do you have to like that? No. But it's our job to provide you with the detail and assessment to allow you to make an informed decision to choose the car that is best for you. There are 11 good cars here, offering buyers nuanced strengths in different areas. We hope you can use the micro-detail the team has created to better understand which one shines in the areas most important to you. We've got some more breakout content coming over the next few weeks that takes a closer look at some of these areas where - shock - not all the results are the same. www.drive.com.au/reviews/australias-best-medium-suv-in-2022/ - James Ward
You have done one on one comparisons with this Haval pos against other contenders and the Haval always lost. Magically it now wins. Your publication is an absolute joke and no one takes you guys seriously.
Sorry mate by any means the Chinese car is the best option for Australian… drives bad, doesn’t keeps it value well, and is not fuel efficient…. Australian family don’t need a flashy car that looks good but feels bad.
@@SmRandmAzn average ones… not all, as not all will be able to buy new midsizes Suv, some can’t, but some other will buy bmws and Mercedes, and others teslas…. But on the middle ground, what is best for a first world family, an emerging Chinese brand, or the bench mark on the car industry: Toyota
@@carlosenriquecastellanoizq7724 that's exactly what a lot of buyers want. Wages are low but people still want all the features, many don't think about 5 year resale values, they just want the most loaded car for the lowest price and don't care if it's Chinese, they're on a tight budget but still want something new and shiny, and brands like MG and Haval are very appealing for the low entry price. All many drivers care about is their weekly repayment amount and the feature list, and driving dynamics don't matter for taking the kids to and from school and weekend sport etc. 99% of these Havals will ever touch gravel or mud, just hopping up and down kerbs for kids weekend sporting ovals.
The problem with these reviews is that they don't take account of reliability, customer support and parts prices/availability. These things are absolutely critical to whether your ownership experience is a good or bad one.
This review came out mid August 2022, so it can't have influenced buyers before this date. And I have seen loads of Havals on the roads, because they're cheap, loaded with gear, and while wages are going backwards in Australia, people still want new shiny stuff but have less dollars to buy things with. I bet many drivers don't like the idea of buying a Chinese car, given the current Australia vs China trade frictions, but they needed something new and their budget dictated their choice. And a test drive impressed them enough to swallow their concerns. And realistically most of these modern SUVs are "mum's taxi" and how many wives give a (bleep) about driving dynamics??? They want something big, modern, safe and comfortable. It doesn't need to corner like a Lotus Elise, or ride like one either. And many buyers do not do research into 5 year resale values unless they're serious car nuts, or extremely financially conscious in all things. I'm one of the borderline povo modern middle class whose wages are falling rapidly behind inflation. MG and Haval are my max budget if I were to buy brand new, but I'd rather a Korean or Japanese car personally. As it is, I'll stick with my 20 year old Magna as long as I can!
You’re right. At the end of the day price, quality and value is what matters. But I think you’re overstating the public’s concern over Chinese politics - a lot of people know this is a Chinese brand from a simple google search and they do NOT care. Nor are people really pushed in the corner with this - if they’re cash-strapped they won’t be looking at a brand new car anyway. And these cars aren’t massively cheaper than the competition, they’re just extremely well equipped for more or less the same price. So the majority who are buying these cars are doing so somewhat consciously - and probably are upgrading their decade old RAV4s and CX5s not out of necessity but for some fun new tech and something fresh. But as you said, a lot of these are going to be mum’s taxis and affordable, roomy and well equipped is the order of the day. The only reason I wouldn’t buy a Chinese car is the same as why I wouldn’t buy a Korean car 2 decades ago, and that is purely a concern over quality and longevity. If they can prove to be the next Hyundai and Kia, I’m happy to open up to considering them. But as it stands you may as well stump up the extra for a Toyota hybrid and still come out ahead on resale. But the only key things with MG and Haval being they’re all SUVs while I’m looking for sedans, and they’re all fairly soft dynamically while I prefer something that handles decently. Either way a smart move given the terrible resale would be to pick one up lightly used at half price!
Most modern car components are made in China. Stop believing the "trade friction" garbage that's being pedaled by the usual suspects. Normal people don't care, they just want the best bang for buck.
Having a whinge because they know that the only reason it won is because Drive are getting advertisement money from these shit Chinese brands. Saying you’re a Haval owner means that you don’t value cars and you’re cheap.
Next video you should do is a large 7 seater SUV mega test with the Nissan Pathfinder and Toyota Kluger and Skoda Kodiaq and ldv d90 and Mitsubishi Pajero Sport and ford Everest and Kia Sorento and Mazda cx8 and Volkswagen Tiguan Allspace and Toyota Fortuner and Mazda CX-9 and Hyundai Santa Fe and Jeep Grand Cherokee L and Toyota Prado and Isuzu mux and Hyundai palisade and Peugeot 5008 and ssangyong Rexton
38:48 CX-5 infotainment difficult to use while on the move? Understandable comment for a tester getting into car and not spending time with it. As far as interfaces go, the knob system in the CX-5 is among the best to while-on-the-move. The great thing about it is that it was designed with minimal interference in mind. A study by the University of Utah showed that vehicles that use touch screens or capacitive touch buttons, require the driver divert attention from the road for periods of up to 30 seconds, which is considered more distracting and potentially lethal that driving intoxicated. Command knobs on the other hands are designed to be used in conjunction with eye level screens, to perform functions in a number of moves that can be achieved with muscle memory, and minimal vision off the road. With a long term test, users of the command knob in the Mazda would choose it over a touchscreen.
I don't understand people's obsession with wanting touch screens in their car. Do they also long for their desktop or laptop screens to be touch interface? How about their TV?
@@EnShinNoi ... or their laptops. I am personally a Macbook Pro user; Apple has left touch to their iPad and designed their OS to be mouse/trackpad friendly instead.
I think its personal preference. Agree with the distraction while driving stuff. But sometimes you just want to point and click, not scrolling around using the knob. I dont know.. but i tried cx5 and i found its more annoying (for me)
The Mazda would be on top of my list for reliability and resale and driving enjoyment. Insurance cost is not as expensive if you shop around and the fuel is not so bad overall it would be a few dollars difference to the others and nothing to panic about. I bought mine in April 2021 brand new and it has surpassed my expectations, i will definitely buy another Mazda product again and in fact I bought a Mazda CX3 for my wife who loves it.
All good now let me guess about 1yo under 10000km real test or feedback will 8y later post warranty and mid 100000km may end up having Toyota like reliability
They've improved significantly thanks to their Renault-Nissan ties. Interior is awesome (albeit looks bigger than it is). Sadly it's let down massively by the driving experience. It drives like a boat and doesn't have to.
@@inodesnet i test drove CX5, Kia and Outlander. I dont know. I kinda like Outlander best. Maybe its personal thing. Cx5 is more "firm", kia is OK overall, but mitsi Outlander is nicer.
Ive seen CX5, RAv4s and CRVs with more than 200,000 kilometers running flawlessly, But never seen a Chinese car completing that, for me reliability es the most important thing, and japanese have it since forever
Cars: Kia Sportage S Ford Escape Hyundai Tucson Nissan X-Trail ST Mazda CX-5 Maxx Honda CR-V Vi Haval H6 Lux Mitsubishi Outlander ES Toyota RAV4 GX MG HS Essence Subaru Forester 2.5i
Dont understand why vinyl seats are a benifit over cloth. Being a child of the 1950s on hot days, those seats were very sticky. In the 70s, cloth became a more desirable option and was used in premium models. Also do not understand space saver tyre, as if if needed, where does the puntured full size tyre go? and with limited travel distance, cant get to next town on some country highways.
Nice comprehensive review but would like to see more detail on the features and how well they work. A lot of safety features are over rated, eg current car has lane assist (tick box) But it is terrible goes off on joins in the road surface, painted lines of a bus stop and the water filled wheel rut/marks on wet roads. Also climate control (tick box) but needs constant adjustment because it adds sudden bursts of hot or cold air rather than an inverter type operation. Cruise control (tick box) is another eara of conern, how well does it hold the speed on undulations? Current car is about plus or minus 5 to 10 k before it starts to adjust speed, very annoying and costly speed fines.
can you include the price after the first 5 services, or round up the price for service on a 100k basic.. It's was one of the most informative vid on suv i seen
Just out off interest, regarding 25:58 the reviewer does not mention that Mitsubishi Outlander LS (7 seater) second row has a slide adjustment. If there is no-one seating in the third row then the second row can be moved back as far as possible. Just wondering, did the reviewer know that it has slide adjustment, and was the seat as far back as possible? Last night I sat in the second row of a Outlander ES (7 seater) with the second row seat slid as far back as possible and it appears to provide lots of room in the second row. I have also sat in an Outlander ES 5 seater. The second row does not have slide adjustment, but it appears to be set back as far as possible, which provides great room in the second row.
What do you mean by feel the difference? Drive scored it 9th in on-road testing, i.e. feel. Feeling difference in this scenario would equal bad. I think you meant to say, "Not feel the difference."
Have you guys thought to check out the recall record of KIA in the last 5years ..now all new gen . KIAs and hyundai they never worked out the problems with the old gen . ....that matters to me , especially with the bad dealers they have .
It's interesting watching this from a North American perspective. Why is the X-Trail (Nissan Rogue) still the last generation? Is the Mazda missing updates. It's known here for incredible reliability, ride, steering and beautiful interior. Subaru Forester is lacking in some ways but scores at the top of the Consumer Reports list of compact CUV's (all of these vehicles would be deemed compact in North America. Also, I always wonder how Australians afford vehicles. The prices always seem so high. Anyway, this was interesting and fun to watch how the evaluations were done. Lots of hard work was clearly done. Thank you for this interesting review/comparison video.
@@Mububban23 I agree with you. What is interesting is that cars are more expensive in Canada. This makes sense in that Canada has 1/10 the population of the US. But where it gets strange is that cars made in Canada (for eg. Toyotas or Hondas) are less expensive when sold in the US than they are in Canada. I saw that a Toyota built in Cambridge Ontario and sold at a dealership there was more expensive than a Toyota built in Cambridge and sold in Seattle Washington. Factor in the transportation costs and it just baffles me.
Where is the Jeep Cherokee and Volkswagen Tiguan and ssangyong korando and Renault Koleos and Skoda Karoq and Citroen c5 Aircross and Peugeot 3008 and haval h6 gt and mahindra xuv500
Resale value is very hard to predict just in case you haven't noticed the world is changing fast. 5-7 years down the road we'll very likely be looking at affordable EVs that does 1000k on a single charge and petrol at $5 per litre, think any of these used cars gonna appeal more to buyers in 2030? Think again. Besides, if by 2030 you're still losing sleep over the resale value of a used budget car, the real question you should be asking yourself is what you've been doing all these years. But if you ask me now I'd say the Escape is the best looking car of the bunch.
Totally agree. And about resale value, so many worried about them . I mean ok i also want my car value to be as high as possible But we are on the verge of dying ICE and emerging EV. Does anyone has thought all ICE will be worthless ? Soon there gonna be cheap EV that quick to charge etc. Forget about your resale value. We are living on different world now
I’m confused, is this for ‘Best Medium SUV’ or ‘Best Value SUV’? I believe that Haval won base on the criteria “created” but its hard to justify as the overall winner if it has the lowest resale value and poor driving dynamics. Is Haval the winner because of lowest price, bigger storage space, more safety feature but lack what is really important like driving performance and resale value.
I think this is because the difference in driving experience between H6 and the best performer the Sportage is only 20 vs 24, which pretty much means neither is spectacular but at the same time neither is going to turn the opposite way you want them to. Also, let's not forget driving dynamics is already something that's very very subjective.
One big issue I have with all these tech screen cars is the fact that I wear long distance glasses for driving, and to clearly see the close up screen, or camera rear view mirror without having to change my glasses is annoying.
Again.. no one testing “SUV”’s Off-Road and or on Dirt and Corrugations. I have to ask why on Earth would anyone bother with “SUV”s (4 x 4), if you’re not leaving the bitumen. Problem with small on-road 4x4 ‘s is you’re not buying a good on-road car and yet you’re not getting a good off-road car. You’re getting neither. So it’s vital if you are a customer looking for dirt and corrugations (a huge part of Australia), you’re at least looking for clearance and drive on dirt. Department of Health in Far North Queensland, nurses and doctors going remote (not off-road, just unsealed roads), the Subaru Forester beat them all. So where have the off-road / unsealed reviews gone and why are all of these reviews using CVT / Auto. No one with a mechanical knowledge would touch CVT. Go back to reviewing Manual and Off-Road, or it’s an incomplete review for the very point of a 4x4.
Thank you for not reviewing tiguan or skoda as those 2 cars are practically only good for European markets which has cheaper cost to repair than Australia.
ANCAP ratings don't mean much unless you delve into the test and look at each individual aspect. Take the Haval H6 for instance. It's basically a death trap in a head-on collision with a score of only 5.13 out of 8.
Comprehensive review of the cars presented but how can the Haval win with so many negative points? In base form the Rav feels the most solid out of this bunch and although Toyota are boring and mediocre in reality for a family on a budget with a 5yr turn around plan the Rav is hands down the best choice with a dealer on every corner the best fixed price service plan in the industry and stupidly high resale. As far as warranty goes who cares about a 7 or 10yr warranty provided by the manufacturers when Australian consumer law trumps any manufacturers warranty.
Another win for China, their cars are improving so quickly, who would have thought this a few years ago. The car will match all the other goods you have purchased from the PRC.
they even admit the Haval drives poorly, but it wins for being cheap... despite its huge depreciation, also it won't be durable - long term it will cost ownerse more than more durable models that will last longer
it might be Drive but clearly "sponsored" editorial content remains at Car Advice. it could be worse, it could be Car Expert doing the same thing, oh wait they did that also.
oh wait it can even be more worse, it be the editorial team at CarSalea calling us all keyboard warriors then blocking anyone who tried to call them.outnomnthe fact they were being paid sponsorship money from GMH them GMSV. Seriously though go and buy a GMW you might as well give your money to a Nigerian Prince instead.
@@SmRandmAzn if it is a toy I am getting for my son, definitely how fancy it is would be a important criteria… I would think on road is like no 1 criteria for something that’s primary purpose is be good on road.
This is what gave it away for me, “As the Haval brand builds its owner base and it's reputation for reliability in Australia". Clearly, infomercial content.
Sure, if it's a performance car. I don't think the average mid size SUV buyer (who doesn't follow car news) cares how well a car corners on the track, or can even tell the difference. A comfortable and spacious cabin with decent storage is more important.
i disagree in some areas, the ford is by far the best in the on road driving, the driveline is awesome. the tucson infotainment screen is the worst - impossible to see or use when its dirty and gets glary. i also dissagreee with haval winning, 1st / 2nd / 3rd should be out of kia/hyundai/ford. haval winning i smell a bit of BS.
Hello from Europe. Always a pleasure to watch such an interesting reviews and comparison. Me personally won’t go with Haval, however I’m more curious to know the Sportage and Tucson if they are represented by the European short version or the longer base from Us. The trunk space seems too odd to be the EU versions which is 10 sm shorter than all the rest.
The XUV700 hadn't launched in Australia in time for this comparison test, but stay tuned to the channel. We'll feature it in a head-to-head comparison soon.
This is a comparison of Medium SUVs (as defined by the Australian sales classification). The much smaller Toyota C-HR falls into the Small SUV category, alongside cars like the Mitsubishi ASX, Mazda CX-30, Subaru Crosstrek and Nissan Qashqai, hence why it wasn't represented in this comparison.
Having owned a 2022 Haval H6 for almost a year, my frustration with almost every single review of this car is an omission of a key gripe that makes me wish I never bought the car. That is the cruise control. It is almost undriveable on country roads as it automatically slowd down rapidly between 10 - 30 km/h for bends, and you can't turn it off - if the cruse is on then that will happen which is both incredibly annoying and dangerous for anyone driving behind you. I've had updates applied 4 different times by different dealerships and no real change. If it wasn't for this major issue then I would recommend the H6 but unfortunately I can't recommend it to anyone unless you will only drive in the city or on straight roads. I'm very disappointed that this issue once again wasn't covered by another review which makes me wonder how much "testing" of these cars actually occurs.
Let’s return in 5 years and see how many issues have come from that Havals build quality. Kia and Hyundai have proven themselves, Haval is yet to do that. But then in this test it seems reliability comes distant second to price.
I don't believe you take everything into consideration. I've always been a Ford fan. I know you've mentioned what you are rating them on, but I will never touch another Ford. It's such a big fight when it comes to warranty. I know of 3 Ford owners trying to claim warranty and the headaches and fights. It's just not worth it. Never thought I'd own a Hyundai, but now I do. The warranty side. I've not had a problem. These reviews can be misleading in the sence that you decide to by the Ford going off what you've just watched. Be carefull
I start to feel that haval is advertising these type of videos… is just impossible that you put it as the first one…. Let’s be practical the under 40k medium suv is for a family on a budget… and as boring as they could look inside, no one’s beat the rav4 in practicality, value, value retention, space, comfort etc etc. I would say that a top of the range sportage looks and feels much better than a top rav4… however on their more affordable versions rav4 just smashed the segment. However you can’t call it the car of the year for 4 years in a row, you can’t also get clicks if is too predictable…. DRIVE you are failing and losing your credit among the public. Australia is waiting 18 months for a rav4 and you pretend to say that is the 5th best….
@@carlosenriquecastellanoizq7724 depends on which aspect you value the most, in terms of value retention and brand name H6 is weaker, aside from these H6 is either on par or exceed RAV4 especially in value of money
@@simonz4936 mate let’s keep it real: you have a family you want to keep the car for 5 to 10 years, you are concerned of your money and the safety of your family, you want to make a good investment, or simply you know a little bit about cars…. Which car is your pick If you tell me you go for the Chinese instead of a hardworking Toyota… well I will believe you also like shiny fake Gucci sunglasses
@@carlosenriquecastellanoizq7724 not a problem let's keep it real and I will let you know why I would choose H6 if I want to keep a car for 5-10 years (if I will sell it in 1 year then I will choose RAV4). 1. Value of money: H6 Ultra 4wd $42,990 VS RAV4 Edge AWD $54,408 Identical equipments and $12k cheaper, I wouldnt mention the interior design cause its subjective (but who on earth would reckon RAV4 has better interior?) 2. Reliability: On par with most of the mainstream brands if not as good as an "unbreakable" Toyota, H6 had already proved its reliability in overseas markets and it is the 3rd gen here. Plus a 7 years warranty for peace of mind. 3. Safety: H6: 2022 Ancap 5 stars RAV4: 2019 Ancap 5 stars. Which one is safer? The fact is if ancap retest a 2019 5 stars car in 2022 it is very likely not getting a 5 stars again, while on the contrary, it is 100% of the chance that a 2022 5 stars car will get 5 stars again if tested under 2019 criteria. 4. Value retention: It is no doubt that RAV4 is better in this , but you do remember the initial cost is $12k higher, can a 10 years old Rav4 worth 12k more than a 10 years old H6? I doubt it, set aside the time value of money for $12k in 10 years.
I see Haval are spending money where its needed…into the pockets of motoring journalists. After 3 years you will wish you never bought a chinese car. They are simply not up to scratch yet.
I've road tested your final 4 recently really don't think the Chinese vehicle is that great to drive and reckon could become a nightmare if you have any problems even within the warranty period.. so out of consideration for me.
@@TheScalyman So you believe the reviewers when they say the Haval was the 9th worst to drive but don't believe them when it came 1st overall because of other factors? Did you also miss the part where four of the SUVs tested are actually over $40 000 and not under $40 000 in the test? Should have been 7 Suvs in the test not 11. But hey, you know best. I've test driven the Haval H6 and others and I find it drives fine. Have you?
@@shaungibbs7400Is this for ‘Best Medium SUV’ or ‘Best Value SUV’? I believe that Haval won based on the criteria “created” but its hard to justify as the overall winner if it has the lowest resale value and poor driving dynamics. Is Haval the winner because of lowest price, bigger storage space, more safety feature but lack what is really important like driving performance and resale value.
@@TheScalyman Not many top brands passed all these tests. Very disappointing from most of the big names. The H6 passed all three. ua-cam.com/video/SsEFOH7KP-Q/v-deo.html
Buy Chinese made, and the profits come back as Chinese aircraft carriers, hypersonic weapons and threats to use them if we don’t tow the line. At least be aware of what happens to your money depending on what you buy. Every choice is a compromise.
@@palmj5718 , Yes, I am a long time iPhone user, and my phone is made in China. But unless I'm prepared to go away from using an Apple phone, I don't have any say in the matter. This is up to Apple and with the games that China is playing right now plus their business-disruptive Covid lock-down policies etc, I wouldn't be suprised if Apple is looking in to making their phones somewhere else. But my car or other vehicles, well, I have ALOT of choice about where they are manufactured, and none of them are, or will, be made in China. Don't forget, there are a couple of factors here. One is where a product is made. The other factor is where the profits of the sale of those products go. In the case of my iPhone, the profits go to Apple share holders. With Chinese-owned car makers, it's pretty obvious where the profits go. But my point still stands; people can look at where things are made and where the manufacturing company is based at the time of purchase, and make an informed choice about whether this plays a part in their decision to buy or not buy that product. Buying products from Chinese companies comes with consequences that alot of people just don't think about. By the same token, selling strategically important materials or products to China has consequences too, like how mining companies in my country, Australia, sell lots of iron ore to China, that has helped to make China stronger, including building up their military which is used to threaten all of us. Australia has made alot of money out of this trade with China, but we've also fed the dragon.
@@MaxFromSydney1 personally I don’t like CCP. But buying Chinese products is another story. You still can use Made in china weapons to against CCP 😂. Also Chinese aircrafts have many USA microchips too.
Japan invaded to Australia in WW2 They killed many aussies but people like Japanese car and hate Chinese product interesting. Can anyone tell me how many Australian killed by CCP?
Why do people buy cars ? to travel........ you spent far too much time talking about stupid screens and boot space and hardly ANY time spent talking about comfort, handling, roadholding and actual driving. You are falling into the trap of other reviewers and spending time talking too long about screen lag and bottle holder space. What about reliability - build quality - panel fitment ? do these things no longer matter ? P.S - I would vote for the greens before I bought a Haval......
haval is the most sale brand in China in the past 8 years. Do you know China is the second large car market on the world? Do you know how many brand and model want s win in the market? But haval sold the most SUV IN CHINA
And ‘hello’… a 4 x 4 - with NO OFF-ROAD / UNSEALDED / DIRT review.. I’m so sick of reviews of 4 x 4’s with no dirt, no off-road capability> the very toss they market. Little SUV’s, photoshopped video edited to look like it can drive straight up the Blue Mountains and picnic on top of a Cliff.. but after all that they review Automatics.. in CVT you’d have to be daft to touch and only a few laps around a roundabout.. what a joke
@@wcrash9361 Everyone recognises the Rav4 as the best of its kind at that time. No one says that about the Haval. Without re-watching their BS comparison the Haval was in 9th place (to drive on the road) out of 11 on THIS test. Let that sink in.....
So the RAV is best in economy, has the 2nd best boot capacity, top 5 in driving experience, and it places below Haval, Hyundai, Ford and Kia (which Drive is sponsored by). BS review.
When the RAV4 Hybrid won our overall Drive Car of the year in 2020 everyone thought we were sponsored by Toyota, no car company can influence a comparison win. www.drive.com.au/drive-car-of-the-year/2020/
Hi all
There are two things here I feel I need to address.
First of all, the team has put a huge amount of time and detail into assessing these 11 cars across criteria we know are important to the majority of buyers. For family-oriented medium-sized SUVs the focus is on daily use practicality and core value offering at purchase. The reason we have split out all the assessment points in such detail on the story is to show you where each of the cars performs in these specific sections, with the Haval H6 a deserved winner across the board.
Is it the best at everything? No. But it is a tremendously well-rounded proposition at this place in the market. Do you have to like that? No. But it's our job to provide you with the detail and assessment to allow you to make an informed decision to choose the car that is best for you.
There are 11 good cars here, offering buyers nuanced strengths in different areas. We hope you can use the micro-detail the team has created to better understand which one shines in the areas most important to you.
We've got some more breakout content coming over the next few weeks that takes a closer look at some of these areas where - shock - not all the results are the same.
www.drive.com.au/reviews/australias-best-medium-suv-in-2022/
- James Ward
You have done one on one comparisons with this Haval pos against other contenders and the Haval always lost.
Magically it now wins.
Your publication is an absolute joke and no one takes you guys seriously.
Sorry mate by any means the Chinese car is the best option for Australian… drives bad, doesn’t keeps it value well, and is not fuel efficient…. Australian family don’t need a flashy car that looks good but feels bad.
@@carlosenriquecastellanoizq7724 You're speaking for all Australian families now?
@@SmRandmAzn average ones… not all, as not all will be able to buy new midsizes Suv, some can’t, but some other will buy bmws and Mercedes, and others teslas…. But on the middle ground, what is best for a first world family, an emerging Chinese brand, or the bench mark on the car industry: Toyota
@@carlosenriquecastellanoizq7724 that's exactly what a lot of buyers want. Wages are low but people still want all the features, many don't think about 5 year resale values, they just want the most loaded car for the lowest price and don't care if it's Chinese, they're on a tight budget but still want something new and shiny, and brands like MG and Haval are very appealing for the low entry price. All many drivers care about is their weekly repayment amount and the feature list, and driving dynamics don't matter for taking the kids to and from school and weekend sport etc. 99% of these Havals will ever touch gravel or mud, just hopping up and down kerbs for kids weekend sporting ovals.
The problem with these reviews is that they don't take account of reliability, customer support and parts prices/availability. These things are absolutely critical to whether your ownership experience is a good or bad one.
Yes, got a 2023 suzuki scross plus demo for 36k last month
This review came out mid August 2022, so it can't have influenced buyers before this date. And I have seen loads of Havals on the roads, because they're cheap, loaded with gear, and while wages are going backwards in Australia, people still want new shiny stuff but have less dollars to buy things with. I bet many drivers don't like the idea of buying a Chinese car, given the current Australia vs China trade frictions, but they needed something new and their budget dictated their choice. And a test drive impressed them enough to swallow their concerns.
And realistically most of these modern SUVs are "mum's taxi" and how many wives give a (bleep) about driving dynamics??? They want something big, modern, safe and comfortable. It doesn't need to corner like a Lotus Elise, or ride like one either.
And many buyers do not do research into 5 year resale values unless they're serious car nuts, or extremely financially conscious in all things.
I'm one of the borderline povo modern middle class whose wages are falling rapidly behind inflation. MG and Haval are my max budget if I were to buy brand new, but I'd rather a Korean or Japanese car personally. As it is, I'll stick with my 20 year old Magna as long as I can!
You’re right. At the end of the day price, quality and value is what matters. But I think you’re overstating the public’s concern over Chinese politics - a lot of people know this is a Chinese brand from a simple google search and they do NOT care. Nor are people really pushed in the corner with this - if they’re cash-strapped they won’t be looking at a brand new car anyway. And these cars aren’t massively cheaper than the competition, they’re just extremely well equipped for more or less the same price. So the majority who are buying these cars are doing so somewhat consciously - and probably are upgrading their decade old RAV4s and CX5s not out of necessity but for some fun new tech and something fresh.
But as you said, a lot of these are going to be mum’s taxis and affordable, roomy and well equipped is the order of the day.
The only reason I wouldn’t buy a Chinese car is the same as why I wouldn’t buy a Korean car 2 decades ago, and that is purely a concern over quality and longevity. If they can prove to be the next Hyundai and Kia, I’m happy to open up to considering them. But as it stands you may as well stump up the extra for a Toyota hybrid and still come out ahead on resale.
But the only key things with MG and Haval being they’re all SUVs while I’m looking for sedans, and they’re all fairly soft dynamically while I prefer something that handles decently. Either way a smart move given the terrible resale would be to pick one up lightly used at half price!
Most modern car components are made in China. Stop believing the "trade friction" garbage that's being pedaled by the usual suspects. Normal people don't care, they just want the best bang for buck.
CX5 9th
CRV 8th
RAV4 4th are you serious.
As a Haval H6 owner I am enjoying all the haters having a whinge
Having a whinge because they know that the only reason it won is because Drive are getting advertisement money from these shit Chinese brands.
Saying you’re a Haval owner means that you don’t value cars and you’re cheap.
@@THEAC83Get a life
@@THEAC83 I’m just not a Toyotard brand snob
People are so proud of being ripped off
Haha
By far the best comparison I've seen. It's like I outsourced it to a research firm! Man...
Next video you should do is a large 7 seater SUV mega test with the Nissan Pathfinder and Toyota Kluger and Skoda Kodiaq and ldv d90 and Mitsubishi Pajero Sport and ford Everest and Kia Sorento and Mazda cx8 and Volkswagen Tiguan Allspace and Toyota Fortuner and Mazda CX-9 and Hyundai Santa Fe and Jeep Grand Cherokee L and Toyota Prado and Isuzu mux and Hyundai palisade and Peugeot 5008 and ssangyong Rexton
38:48 CX-5 infotainment difficult to use while on the move? Understandable comment for a tester getting into car and not spending time with it.
As far as interfaces go, the knob system in the CX-5 is among the best to while-on-the-move. The great thing about it is that it was designed with minimal interference in mind.
A study by the University of Utah showed that vehicles that use touch screens or capacitive touch buttons, require the driver divert attention from the road for periods of up to 30 seconds, which is considered more distracting and potentially lethal that driving intoxicated.
Command knobs on the other hands are designed to be used in conjunction with eye level screens, to perform functions in a number of moves that can be achieved with muscle memory, and minimal vision off the road.
With a long term test, users of the command knob in the Mazda would choose it over a touchscreen.
I don't understand people's obsession with wanting touch screens in their car. Do they also long for their desktop or laptop screens to be touch interface? How about their TV?
@@EnShinNoi ... or their laptops. I am personally a Macbook Pro user; Apple has left touch to their iPad and designed their OS to be mouse/trackpad friendly instead.
I think its personal preference. Agree with the distraction while driving stuff. But sometimes you just want to point and click, not scrolling around using the knob. I dont know.. but i tried cx5 and i found its more annoying (for me)
The Mazda would be on top of my list for reliability and resale and driving enjoyment. Insurance cost is not as expensive if you shop around and the fuel is not so bad overall it would be a few dollars difference to the others and nothing to panic about. I bought mine in April 2021 brand new and it has surpassed my expectations, i will definitely buy another Mazda product again and in fact I bought a Mazda CX3 for my wife who loves it.
Someone is very busy moderating the comment in this post :D
Please create a review for top specs SUV around 50-60K, thats what people want to see
I am a proud owner of the Haval H6 Ultra 2WD and the car is still going strong.
All good now let me guess about 1yo under 10000km real test or feedback will 8y later post warranty and mid 100000km may end up having Toyota like reliability
@@robertceroli3512 too bad the Toyota sucks from 0km on the clock
Poor you
I'd take the Outlander, it has the best packaging plus it looks so good oh and it got a 5 star top safety pick + award from IIHS.
Shit engine though.
@@Hansanaw nope far from shxt, if you know the specs of the PR25DD you'll know it's one of the best and one of the most modern in it's class.
They've improved significantly thanks to their Renault-Nissan ties. Interior is awesome (albeit looks bigger than it is).
Sadly it's let down massively by the driving experience. It drives like a boat and doesn't have to.
@@inodesnet actually it handles really well, reviewers praise the Outlander for it's handling.
@@inodesnet i test drove CX5, Kia and Outlander. I dont know. I kinda like Outlander best. Maybe its personal thing. Cx5 is more "firm", kia is OK overall, but mitsi Outlander is nicer.
Ive seen CX5, RAv4s and CRVs with more than 200,000 kilometers running flawlessly, But never seen a Chinese car completing that, for me reliability es the most important thing, and japanese have it since forever
Cars:
Kia Sportage S
Ford Escape
Hyundai Tucson
Nissan X-Trail ST
Mazda CX-5 Maxx
Honda CR-V Vi
Haval H6 Lux
Mitsubishi Outlander ES
Toyota RAV4 GX
MG HS Essence
Subaru Forester 2.5i
Dont understand why vinyl seats are a benifit over cloth. Being a child of the 1950s on hot days, those seats were very sticky. In the 70s, cloth became a more desirable option and was used in premium models. Also do not understand space saver tyre, as if if needed, where does the puntured full size tyre go? and with limited travel distance, cant get to next town on some country highways.
Easier to clean fluids off a vinyl seat compared to cloth, which is a factor in a family car.
Nice comprehensive review but would like to see more detail on the features and how well they work. A lot of safety features are over rated, eg current car has lane assist (tick box) But it is terrible goes off on joins in the road surface, painted lines of a bus stop and the water filled wheel rut/marks on wet roads. Also climate control (tick box) but needs constant adjustment because it adds sudden bursts of hot or cold air rather than an inverter type operation. Cruise control (tick box) is another eara of conern, how well does it hold the speed on undulations? Current car is about plus or minus 5 to 10 k before it starts to adjust speed, very annoying and costly speed fines.
can you include the price after the first 5 services, or round up the price for service on a 100k basic.. It's was one of the most informative vid on suv i seen
I love the RAV 4 sadly though it’s like a 2 year wait which is a huge negative so I’m looking for a new equivalent
Just out off interest, regarding 25:58 the reviewer does not mention that Mitsubishi Outlander LS (7 seater) second row has a slide adjustment. If there is no-one seating in the third row then the second row can be moved back as far as possible. Just wondering, did the reviewer know that it has slide adjustment, and was the seat as far back as possible? Last night I sat in the second row of a Outlander ES (7 seater) with the second row seat slid as far back as possible and it appears to provide lots of room in the second row. I have also sat in an Outlander ES 5 seater. The second row does not have slide adjustment, but it appears to be set back as far as possible, which provides great room in the second row.
Haval? Haha how much did they pay you to give them first place?
Haval does an overall good job in this comparison. No doubt on No 1. People need to test drive it to feel the difference.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
oh wait you're serious.
Bahahahahahaha!.
A lot of people won’t, because they’re too close minded to try something new
@@351tgv this cracked me up! Gj
What do you mean by feel the difference? Drive scored it 9th in on-road testing, i.e. feel.
Feeling difference in this scenario would equal bad. I think you meant to say, "Not feel the difference."
I got one as a loan car and the power is amazing and drives better than my Tucson.
Have you guys thought to check out the recall record of KIA in the last 5years ..now all new gen . KIAs and hyundai they never worked out the problems with the old gen . ....that matters to me , especially with the bad dealers they have .
very surprising winner great stuff guys ..
It's interesting watching this from a North American perspective. Why is the X-Trail (Nissan Rogue) still the last generation? Is the Mazda missing updates. It's known here for incredible reliability, ride, steering and beautiful interior. Subaru Forester is lacking in some ways but scores at the top of the Consumer Reports list of compact CUV's (all of these vehicles would be deemed compact in North America. Also, I always wonder how Australians afford vehicles. The prices always seem so high. Anyway, this was interesting and fun to watch how the evaluations were done. Lots of hard work was clearly done. Thank you for this interesting review/comparison video.
US has 350 million population so massive buying power, Australia has 25 million, so we often pay higher prices compared to the US. Especially cars 😞
@@Mububban23 I agree with you. What is interesting is that cars are more expensive in Canada. This makes sense in that Canada has 1/10 the population of the US. But where it gets strange is that cars made in Canada (for eg. Toyotas or Hondas) are less expensive when sold in the US than they are in Canada. I saw that a Toyota built in Cambridge Ontario and sold at a dealership there was more expensive than a Toyota built in Cambridge and sold in Seattle Washington. Factor in the transportation costs and it just baffles me.
Where is the Jeep Cherokee and Volkswagen Tiguan and ssangyong korando and Renault Koleos and Skoda Karoq and Citroen c5 Aircross and Peugeot 3008 and haval h6 gt and mahindra xuv500
This is under $40K
Got a 2023 suzuki scross plus, demo for 36k last month with all the features (3500km) - 360 degree cam etc.
Resale value is very hard to predict just in case you haven't noticed the world is changing fast. 5-7 years down the road we'll very likely be looking at affordable EVs that does 1000k on a single charge and petrol at $5 per litre, think any of these used cars gonna appeal more to buyers in 2030? Think again. Besides, if by 2030 you're still losing sleep over the resale value of a used budget car, the real question you should be asking yourself is what you've been doing all these years. But if you ask me now I'd say the Escape is the best looking car of the bunch.
Totally agree. And about resale value, so many worried about them . I mean ok i also want my car value to be as high as possible
But we are on the verge of dying ICE and emerging EV.
Does anyone has thought all ICE will be worthless ? Soon there gonna be cheap EV that quick to charge etc.
Forget about your resale value. We are living on different world now
I’m confused, is this for ‘Best Medium SUV’ or ‘Best Value SUV’? I believe that Haval won base on the criteria “created” but its hard to justify as the overall winner if it has the lowest resale value and poor driving dynamics. Is Haval the winner because of lowest price, bigger storage space, more safety feature but lack what is really important like driving performance and resale value.
I think this is because the difference in driving experience between H6 and the best performer the Sportage is only 20 vs 24, which pretty much means neither is spectacular but at the same time neither is going to turn the opposite way you want them to. Also, let's not forget driving dynamics is already something that's very very subjective.
Hard to know resale value on new models
Every time I get to use a car with a rotary gear shifter I never like them. Hate those shifters
Thank you. This is such a comprehensive assessment covering such a broad range of models.
Happy you liked it! Thanks for watching
Great and comprehensive test! Was great to watch. Surprised the europeans are missing
Skoda Karoq
Renault koleos
Edit: to be fair it’s basically just an x trail
One big issue I have with all these tech screen cars is the fact that I wear long distance glasses for driving, and to clearly see the close up screen, or camera rear view mirror without having to change my glasses is annoying.
You should talk to your opticians or optometrist about that , get a progressive glass.
Best video so far .
No doubt haval is best among all competitors.
Again.. no one testing “SUV”’s Off-Road and or on Dirt and Corrugations. I have to ask why on Earth would anyone bother with “SUV”s (4 x 4), if you’re not leaving the bitumen. Problem with small on-road 4x4 ‘s is you’re not buying a good on-road car and yet you’re not getting a good off-road car. You’re getting neither. So it’s vital if you are a customer looking for dirt and corrugations (a huge part of Australia), you’re at least looking for clearance and drive on dirt. Department of Health in Far North Queensland, nurses and doctors going remote (not off-road, just unsealed roads), the Subaru Forester beat them all. So where have the off-road / unsealed reviews gone and why are all of these reviews using CVT / Auto. No one with a mechanical knowledge would touch CVT. Go back to reviewing Manual and Off-Road, or it’s an incomplete review for the very point of a 4x4.
Do any of these cars allow a medium size adult inbetween 2 car seats in the back? Probably not but thought I'd ask
Thank you for not reviewing tiguan or skoda as those 2 cars are practically only good for European markets which has cheaper cost to repair than Australia.
I thought it was illegal to force a car under warranty only to service outlets under its brand ?
There’s still a five year warranty if you dont service it there
Are you guys scared from the Mahindra XUV 700 why did I you guys add that.
Unfortunately the timing didn't line up. The XUV700 hadn't launched in Australia at the time we complied this review.
ANCAP ratings don't mean much unless you delve into the test and look at each individual aspect. Take the Haval H6 for instance. It's basically a death trap in a head-on collision with a score of only 5.13 out of 8.
Remember it is a 2022 result, still 1 generation ahead of those tested 2017
That doesn't matter because the testing parameters have not changed regarding head-on collisions.
The Tuscon is my favourite.
I dislike slab digital dashboards. As a Kia owner....Kia, take note.
Big No for Haval
I will go for crv, kia, rav4 and outlander
How can a 3rd worst drivable car be #1. I'm ok if it gets to the top 4 but #1?
Change the title to best value medium SUV
Comprehensive review of the cars presented but how can the Haval win with so many negative points?
In base form the Rav feels the most solid out of this bunch and although Toyota are boring and mediocre in reality for a family on a budget with a 5yr turn around plan the Rav is hands down the best choice with a dealer on every corner the best fixed price service plan in the industry and stupidly high resale.
As far as warranty goes who cares about a 7 or 10yr warranty provided by the manufacturers when Australian consumer law trumps any manufacturers warranty.
Another win for China, their cars are improving so quickly, who would have thought this a few years ago. The car will match all the other goods you have purchased from the PRC.
Yea, but the resale value is pretty bad 😢
@@kennethwong8165 So true and it costs customers, A hidden cost.
@@kennethwong8165 that’s false they are still selling used Haval’s for new prices
That’s why you can’t take this mob seriously.
They rank a Haval as the winner.
Agreed
I thought the winner was the RAV4
The 9th Best one to Drive won. Ridiculous
Where's the 'RELIABILITY' category? Probably the most import. If your Kia barely makes it to 100k before having major issues.
they even admit the Haval drives poorly, but it wins for being cheap... despite its huge depreciation, also it won't be durable - long term it will cost ownerse more than more durable models that will last longer
Speculation.
@@perpetualgrin5804 Trying to justify your chinese car?
@@user-vk4vd7vr5t trying to justify your prejudice?
Why don’t you drive one and see
I have its bloody good
@@brume2011 they literally said themselves in the video it doesn't drive well
nah... don't risk my family safrty with Chinese brand. rather pick up Korean brand
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA!
Oh wait you are serious.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA!
it might be Drive but clearly "sponsored" editorial content remains at Car Advice.
it could be worse, it could be Car Expert doing the same thing, oh wait they did that also.
oh wait it can even be more worse, it be the editorial team at CarSalea calling us all keyboard warriors then blocking anyone who tried to call them.outnomnthe fact they were being paid sponsorship money from GMH them GMSV.
Seriously though go and buy a GMW you might as well give your money to a Nigerian Prince instead.
Oh wow..Ford escape in the top 4.
On road it ranks 9 out of 11. But, it is the best car. What a joke. Felt like a infomercial for Haval.
🤦🏻♂️
It’s almost as if there is more than one criteria to assess the cars, absolutely mind blowing
@@SmRandmAzn if it is a toy I am getting for my son, definitely how fancy it is would be a important criteria… I would think on road is like no 1 criteria for something that’s primary purpose is be good on road.
This is what gave it away for me, “As the Haval brand builds its owner base and it's reputation for reliability in Australia". Clearly, infomercial content.
Sure, if it's a performance car. I don't think the average mid size SUV buyer (who doesn't follow car news) cares how well a car corners on the track, or can even tell the difference. A comfortable and spacious cabin with decent storage is more important.
I wouldn't bother the handling on mid suvs, whichever has the best handling among the 11 of them, still slow as hell and not able to handle corners
i disagree in some areas, the ford is by far the best in the on road driving, the driveline is awesome. the tucson infotainment screen is the worst - impossible to see or use when its dirty and gets glary. i also dissagreee with haval winning, 1st / 2nd / 3rd should be out of kia/hyundai/ford. haval winning i smell a bit of BS.
Mitsubishi outlander better design interior an exterior, Mazda cx5, KIA, Hyundai,
This is not a good review.
Why not?
All The glisters are not gold.. poor comparison.
The comment section is so much fun to watch haha, if you wanna buy a Chinese car that’s fun to drive try the Nio Ep9.
Hello from Europe. Always a pleasure to watch such an interesting reviews and comparison. Me personally won’t go with Haval, however I’m more curious to know the Sportage and Tucson if they are represented by the European short version or the longer base from Us. The trunk space seems too odd to be the EU versions which is 10 sm shorter than all the rest.
Its the long wheel base in Australia
I would have gone with the Tuscon......then the Rav4.
No 3008?
It tripped a eng check light during testing back to the dealer
3008 and 5008 are very popular here in Europe.
No way it is a real review!
And where is the WV Tiguan?
Is it lower than $40 000?
@@ThaboPitse no much more than $40,000
@@_Cal365_ it did not breakdown it just tripped a eng check light it's currently in the service dept
@@_Cal365_ bozo ne prdi
im suprized haval won being one of the worst to drive
Mum driving the kids to and from school doesn't care about driving dynamics as much as car reviewers do
Have you actually driven one?
Why no haval h6 ultra 2wd it's under 40k
Because it would embarrass the competition too much, give them a chance.
@@SmRandmAzn Yeah, probably.
Laughable when you say 9th worst on road performance. 😂😂😂
How much did China pay for this rating? We should be putting tariffs on thing's coming from them 🤔
Surprised they weren't wearing red shirts 😂
Thank you
I like Outlander
Haval !!!! Happy Chinese New Year.
the ford looked laggy as f
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Hyundai is the worst for thin paintwork. Paint also peels after a while.
These guys are comparing a car like a phone
you forgot the XUV700 !
The XUV700 hadn't launched in Australia in time for this comparison test, but stay tuned to the channel. We'll feature it in a head-to-head comparison soon.
CHR?????????????
This is a comparison of Medium SUVs (as defined by the Australian sales classification). The much smaller Toyota C-HR falls into the Small SUV category, alongside cars like the Mitsubishi ASX, Mazda CX-30, Subaru Crosstrek and Nissan Qashqai, hence why it wasn't represented in this comparison.
Having owned a 2022 Haval H6 for almost a year, my frustration with almost every single review of this car is an omission of a key gripe that makes me wish I never bought the car. That is the cruise control. It is almost undriveable on country roads as it automatically slowd down rapidly between 10 - 30 km/h for bends, and you can't turn it off - if the cruse is on then that will happen which is both incredibly annoying and dangerous for anyone driving behind you. I've had updates applied 4 different times by different dealerships and no real change. If it wasn't for this major issue then I would recommend the H6 but unfortunately I can't recommend it to anyone unless you will only drive in the city or on straight roads.
I'm very disappointed that this issue once again wasn't covered by another review which makes me wonder how much "testing" of these cars actually occurs.
Cruise control is not designed for bending country road fyi
Even the Mazda cruise control recommends using it only on straight flat roads. It's not a self driving function, just a quality of life feature.
Let’s return in 5 years and see how many issues have come from that Havals build quality.
Kia and Hyundai have proven themselves, Haval is yet to do that. But then in this test it seems reliability comes distant second to price.
I don't believe you take everything into consideration. I've always been a Ford fan. I know you've mentioned what you are rating them on, but I will never touch another Ford. It's such a big fight when it comes to warranty. I know of 3 Ford owners trying to claim warranty and the headaches and fights. It's just not worth it. Never thought I'd own a Hyundai, but now I do. The warranty side. I've not had a problem. These reviews can be misleading in the sence that you decide to by the Ford going off what you've just watched. Be carefull
I start to feel that haval is advertising these type of videos… is just impossible that you put it as the first one….
Let’s be practical the under 40k medium suv is for a family on a budget… and as boring as they could look inside, no one’s beat the rav4 in practicality, value, value retention, space, comfort etc etc. I would say that a top of the range sportage looks and feels much better than a top rav4… however on their more affordable versions rav4 just smashed the segment.
However you can’t call it the car of the year for 4 years in a row, you can’t also get clicks if is too predictable…. DRIVE you are failing and losing your credit among the public.
Australia is waiting 18 months for a rav4 and you pretend to say that is the 5th best….
Value retention is the only winning aspect for Rav4, test drive a 34k H6 and you will see the reason
@@simonz4936 so Simon haval h6 is better than a Toyota RAV4 ?
@@carlosenriquecastellanoizq7724 depends on which aspect you value the most, in terms of value retention and brand name H6 is weaker, aside from these H6 is either on par or exceed RAV4 especially in value of money
@@simonz4936 mate let’s keep it real: you have a family you want to keep the car for 5 to 10 years, you are concerned of your money and the safety of your family, you want to make a good investment, or simply you know a little bit about cars…. Which car is your pick
If you tell me you go for the Chinese instead of a hardworking Toyota… well I will believe you also like shiny fake Gucci sunglasses
@@carlosenriquecastellanoizq7724 not a problem let's keep it real and I will let you know why I would choose H6 if I want to keep a car for 5-10 years (if I will sell it in 1 year then I will choose RAV4).
1. Value of money: H6 Ultra 4wd $42,990 VS RAV4 Edge AWD $54,408 Identical equipments and $12k cheaper, I wouldnt mention the interior design cause its subjective (but who on earth would reckon RAV4 has better interior?)
2. Reliability: On par with most of the mainstream brands if not as good as an "unbreakable" Toyota, H6 had already proved its reliability in overseas markets and it is the 3rd gen here. Plus a 7 years warranty for peace of mind.
3. Safety: H6: 2022 Ancap 5 stars RAV4: 2019 Ancap 5 stars. Which one is safer? The fact is if ancap retest a 2019 5 stars car in 2022 it is very likely not getting a 5 stars again, while on the contrary, it is 100% of the chance that a 2022 5 stars car will get 5 stars again if tested under 2019 criteria.
4. Value retention: It is no doubt that RAV4 is better in this , but you do remember the initial cost is $12k higher, can a 10 years old Rav4 worth 12k more than a 10 years old H6? I doubt it, set aside the time value of money for $12k in 10 years.
I see Haval are spending money where its needed…into the pockets of motoring journalists.
After 3 years you will wish you never bought a chinese car. They are simply not up to scratch yet.
@@bens6674 And they are busy deleting negative comments and blocking users who comment on the article on the Drive website...
@@user-vk4vd7vr5t I’ll go place some comments there then….. not happy at all with this review
I’ve been blocked from Drive for ages. They can’t handle being challenged.
Carexpert is the publication to read.
Perhaps you’d prefer the build quality of that beacon of Australian manufacturing.. Holden. Oops, I forgot l, they don’t exist anymore 😂
@@sidjyothi indeed I would prefer the build quality of a Holden. Thanks for the heads up.
I've road tested your final 4 recently really don't think the Chinese vehicle is that great to drive and reckon could become a nightmare if you have any problems even within the warranty period.. so out of consideration for me.
What a joke for the winner. Lol!
#thankgodsusannahisback
Terrible review
Why?
@@shaungibbs7400 Why? Because the 9th worst to drive on the road one. Fool.
@@TheScalyman So you believe the reviewers when they say the Haval was the 9th worst to drive but don't believe them when it came 1st overall because of other factors?
Did you also miss the part where four of the SUVs tested are actually over $40 000 and not under $40 000 in the test? Should have been 7 Suvs in the test not 11.
But hey, you know best.
I've test driven the Haval H6 and others and I find it drives fine. Have you?
@@shaungibbs7400Is this for ‘Best Medium SUV’ or ‘Best Value SUV’? I believe that Haval won based on the criteria “created” but its hard to justify as the overall winner if it has the lowest resale value and poor driving dynamics. Is Haval the winner because of lowest price, bigger storage space, more safety feature but lack what is really important like driving performance and resale value.
@@TheScalyman
Not many top brands passed all these tests. Very disappointing from most of the big names. The H6 passed all three.
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Haval rubbish, 3 years time the thing is fallen apart
I will NEVER purchase a Chinese vehicle. NEVER.
This video is too long to watch 😅
No. Just no.
MGs are epic
We asked MG for the base model as this was the criteria of our mega test, unfortunately only the higher spec was tested.
@@codyrebeccamunster9558 the MG HS is bigger than the cx5 though, and just about the same size as the CR-V. How would that work?
Buy Chinese made, and the profits come back as Chinese aircraft carriers, hypersonic weapons and threats to use them if we don’t tow the line.
At least be aware of what happens to your money depending on what you buy.
Every choice is a compromise.
Are you using Chinese made phone or laptop to comment this?
@@palmj5718 , Yes, I am a long time iPhone user, and my phone is made in China. But unless I'm prepared to go away from using an Apple phone, I don't have any say in the matter. This is up to Apple and with the games that China is playing right now plus their business-disruptive Covid lock-down policies etc, I wouldn't be suprised if Apple is looking in to making their phones somewhere else. But my car or other vehicles, well, I have ALOT of choice about where they are manufactured, and none of them are, or will, be made in China.
Don't forget, there are a couple of factors here. One is where a product is made. The other factor is where the profits of the sale of those products go. In the case of my iPhone, the profits go to Apple share holders. With Chinese-owned car makers, it's pretty obvious where the profits go.
But my point still stands; people can look at where things are made and where the manufacturing company is based at the time of purchase, and make an informed choice about whether this plays a part in their decision to buy or not buy that product. Buying products from Chinese companies comes with consequences that alot of people just don't think about.
By the same token, selling strategically important materials or products to China has consequences too, like how mining companies in my country, Australia, sell lots of iron ore to China, that has helped to make China stronger, including building up their military which is used to threaten all of us. Australia has made alot of money out of this trade with China, but we've also fed the dragon.
@@MaxFromSydney1 personally I don’t like CCP. But buying Chinese products is another story. You still can use Made in china weapons to against CCP 😂. Also Chinese aircrafts have many USA microchips too.
Japan invaded to Australia in WW2 They killed many aussies but people like Japanese car and hate Chinese product interesting. Can anyone tell me how many Australian killed by CCP?
Why do people buy cars ? to travel........ you spent far too much time talking about stupid screens and boot space and hardly ANY time spent talking about comfort, handling, roadholding and actual driving. You are falling into the trap of other reviewers and spending time talking too long about screen lag and bottle holder space. What about reliability - build quality - panel fitment ? do these things no longer matter ? P.S - I would vote for the greens before I bought a Haval......
haval is the most sale brand in China in the past 8 years. Do you know China is the second large car market on the world? Do you know how many brand and model want s win in the market? But haval sold the most SUV IN CHINA
And ‘hello’… a 4 x 4 - with NO OFF-ROAD / UNSEALDED / DIRT review.. I’m so sick of reviews of 4 x 4’s with no dirt, no off-road capability> the very toss they market. Little SUV’s, photoshopped video edited to look like it can drive straight up the Blue Mountains and picnic on top of a Cliff.. but after all that they review Automatics.. in CVT you’d have to be daft to touch and only a few laps around a roundabout.. what a joke
Hint: The purpose of the review is in the title.
The Tuscon is a terrible car, cheap and nasty
Drive reviews are always biased rubbish funded by manufacturers. Haval must be paying them more than Kia now.
Then don't watch them. Drive them all yourself and make up your mind.
Did you say that when they chose Toyota RAV4 car of the year 2020 lol
@@wcrash9361 Everyone recognises the Rav4 as the best of its kind at that time. No one says that about the Haval. Without re-watching their BS comparison the Haval was in 9th place (to drive on the road) out of 11 on THIS test. Let that sink in.....
@@TheScalyman sorry that the Rav isn’t perfect in every way , it has many faults
First again!
unsubscribe, boycott
So the RAV is best in economy, has the 2nd best boot capacity, top 5 in driving experience, and it places below Haval, Hyundai, Ford and Kia (which Drive is sponsored by). BS review.
When the RAV4 Hybrid won our overall Drive Car of the year in 2020 everyone thought we were sponsored by Toyota, no car company can influence a comparison win. www.drive.com.au/drive-car-of-the-year/2020/
What about Mahindra?