Hi Miguel, Hi all. I think you have a disadvantageous mental approach on the subject. I once read an article where a professional writer and intellectual describes his immense collection of books as "ok": it is more important to have the opportunity to be able to read something if you are in the right mood and have it at hand rather than not having the opportunity. I summarize the concept as: having put yourself in a position to have the freedom to undertake something with as little friction as possible. An example? I make a lot of kitbashing, it's my butter and bread in this hobby, and having the opportunity to choose from a consistent pile of sprues that often gives me the perfect piece that I barely knew to have...what a marvelous feeling! So YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAINT ALL YOUR MINIS! IMHO Most of the things we also have out of the hobby ARE SURPLUS! The real meaning of miniature hobbyst trail is mental healthiness, self esteem training, artistic expression, getting in touch with other (most of the time) lovely human beings. All this at the price of a few small mountains of overpriced plastic. You know what? I would spend every penny again! Couple it all with a reasonable spending plan that is sustainable and reduces “uncontrolled waste” and I think you no longer need to think in this unprofitable way.
Great video Miguel! So much fun going through this thought exercise and it was great to go through, touch, remember what I have, and get re-invigorated to paint them. Here's a $20 USD hug. I think you need a hug after this. LOL
I have literally no words to describe how I feel about this... I tried emojis, witty remarks, questions... but I can't see how free shipping can get us to this situation. Was it at GW's website?
Aaaand now it all makes sense. You Kiwis are literally screwed when it comes to minis. BTW, I need to go see your country. Badly. It has been in my bucket list for years!!
I used a temporary hack - found a store that would take a good portion of my pile of shame for a decent amount of credit. But now I'll just buy more stuff, and hopefully I can keep focus on the new project.
That is a decent compromise. I feel like I need to rethink my whole collection, but I will do it after ToW comes out and I see what I need to have fully playable armies in my collection.
I have a week off work and had to finish this one! Trying to get the next one editing soon! Regarding this video, yeah: I'd need to stop buying more stuff and definitely start painting serious hours every day to finish everything off before I kick the bucket. I don't see either of those things happening, tho!
So true man, imagine if you stop painting for any reason...the point is enjoying also collecting them even not painted, coulored ones will be the lucky ones in your collection. Good vid. Saludos desde Murcia
I have painted for around 3 years at this point, and looking at my display cabinets, I have at least the same amount of miniatures in my pile of shame if not twice that. Does that mean i plan on stopping buying new boxes any time soon? I don't think so.
37 years in the hobby, several dozen armies completed including Games Day armies when I worked for Games Workshop, and over all those years I never had a pile of shame much more than 10 figures, until now. I currently have a single army (15mm sci-fi for gruntz 15mm) sitting unpainted. So in my case you are incorrect, Ill have this army painted soon (I need new glasses first).
You have no idea how much I envy you. I used to have a manageable pile not long ago. Then greedy video projects that I am still working on, donations -hey, I am not painting these, do you want them?- and a busy schedule got the best of me.
@riggermortisfpv526 oh, I feel your pain then! The grind was real. Professionals like you were the ones that made this hobby into what it is. Big kudos and thanks for your brush service!
My biggest issue is that I'm perfect happy playing pickup games with unpainted minis, so there's a little less incentive to get it all done. But I now have a dollar in dollar out policy. I can only spend as much as I get from selling minis I don't want any more, at least until I make some serious progress.
Once I started painting with everything painted vs people with everything painted, using decent-looking scenery... that was it: I just could not go back. Even for board games! I think your approach on "dollars out, dollars in" is a great idea, and I should be looking into something on that line to manage what I have at home!
It's not just miniatures. My mother liked quilting, and she would go to her quilt club meetings, and go shopping at quilt shows, and such-like. When she died, we had probably a hundred pounds of different fabrics and doo dads that we gave to her friends in the quilt club.
First of all, condolences for your mum's passing. Secondly, it would be a good idea to have a club where I could share my minis with the other members and maybe paint armies we all could use! That sounds like an awesome idea!
I am personaly absolutly not stressed about my pile of shame. Maybe one suggestion for you is to hire a (charming ?!) assistant to cut the time in two !!!😂 good luck !
I stopped worrying about my pile of shame years ago. Just acknowledged that i've got enough miniatures for my grandchildren to paint* and stopped buying miniatures; I've got enough for any game I care to play. * assuming I ever get around to having children in the first place.
You know, in the upcoming battle in the next life! your minions consist of all the minis and models you painted to a tabletop Standard. Now that should be all the inspiration you need 😂
great video! i do keep a constant cycle of selling miniatures as i buy new miniatures, but i must have like 1000 unpainted minis in stock. it can be very hard to let the painted stuff go but i do find the prices you can get for well painted minis, or even just minis that are built and primed exceed my original purchase costs. im not saying im making money, but it is much better that some of my other hobbies where money just disappears.
The resell prices for old classic models are quite reasonable to consider parting with some minis from time to time, that's true. Things that in 2004 or 2005 would be considered obsolete are now absolute collector's gold. Never throw anything away in this hobby! Except maybe plastic marines. Those are so prevalent everywhere nobody really pays much for them.
Ok, hear me out. Once you did the estimation. Time for cheat codes. Put all your unpainted plastic in front of you. Don't even take them off the sprues. Step 1: a whole weekend. Zenithil prime everything: Undercoat everything black, then white (except for your exceptions - some require different undercoating). But big batch day of undercoating everything. One weekend and everything is done. I mean EVERYTHING. You will need a lot of undercoating paint and a air brush to spray paint. Can't afford to have defective material. Must flow. Step 2: a 2nd whole weekend. Undercoat everything with their main color. Put every sprue on it's respective pile, depending on it's main color. Airbrush. Won't be perfect. But you will come back to fix imperfections later. Say, ultramarines all go in the blue pile. All orcs/gretchins/goblins/Greenskins go in green pile. Do one pile at a time. Wash airbrush in between piles. Get it all done before the end of 2nd weekend. Step 3: This is gonna get more and more annoying. Do all metals. Do all woods. Do all skin color... Taylorism ain't fun, but it gets stuff done. One weekend of metals, one weekend of wood, one of cloths... Just power through it. You won't get the perfect end result you wanted. But you won't wait 25 years. The results will be incrementally better and better every weekend. Mother of all rules: Don't add anything to the pile until you finish it. No exceptions. Ever. No, not even for that thing you're thinking about. Nope. Forget it. I said forget it. Oh, and sell away the stuff you don't appreciate. Space is worth more than collectibles in the new world order during this big reset.
after this, you can come back and do highlights of the miniatures that you like most. But this psychological experience of realizing you're in way deeper than you thought... it's still positive, because it elicits a response out of you. You're alive again and not in autopilot mode.
oh and at the end, you can take them off the sprues and assemble them. of course. But the later, the better. It helps stay organised. You will have a final weekend of fixing up the sprew marks. I never said this method is perfect.
This has been pinned, because I think it is a very good approach. A killer, no doubt, but still feasible. Might try it with a couple of things I got around.
Gran vídeo Miguel, creo que es hora de que saque la hoja de excel y hacer cuentas. Aunque también me quedo pensando formas de darle la vuelta a esos números 🤔
You know, come to think of it. I used to collect lotr models from a monthly magazine. I painted them all every month. So... I basically did finish my models a few times. But... nowadays with 40k?😅
Those monthly magazines were quite popular in Spain too! The Fantasy ones brought a lot of people to the fold around the 2000's. If you painted as you went, it was a great way to collect minis!
i have imperium magazine collection. I cannot keep up with it on a regular basis. I has to be sprints of work, and it's not as "fun" as it's told to be, for me anyway, if i want to get stuff painted, you gotta power through it. Otherwise you spend a year looking at a single mini in total paralysis analysis.
This is absolutely true: unless you sit down and start painting, nothing will get down. The most difficult part is actually beginning a paint session. After that, it is all much much easier.
Have you ever heard about some I think citadel miniatures, not being of white metal, but some being of gold and some of silver? It was considered to be the most expensive game ever ( in the 80’s) and it was kind of a dungeon crawler like Heroquest but with glass floors to play on. It would be nice to have those expensive ones… well painted. 😂 You give me hope, thanks to you I already painted my old HQ and together we will attack that pile of shame! 😂
@@rushthewash I saw an article of it in an early 80’s comic magazine long before I was conscious enough to know anything about miniatures. We shall see if we can find it. Anyway it was way back already too expensive and it wasn’t produced on a serious scale. BTW the figures came UNPAINTED, so it looked very boring at first sight, even with those metals.
Me encanta tu canal, uno de los tres de habla inglesa que veo con los subtítulos . No , no quiero calcular cuanto tiempo tardaré en pintar mi pi... mi montaña de la verguenza, me da que sería similar a la tuya, y esto lo pongo la semana que he pedido 50 minis más, y contando que si son de plástico suelo hacer conversiones en la inmensa mayoría no quiero ni pensar cuanto tardaré. Besos para ti tambien.
Si es tenemos algo en nuestra personalidad - o en nuestra genética incluso! - que nos hace ser así de masoquistas, no lo entiendo. Que sea leve el proceso de conversion y pintura! Qué has comprado? Y muchas gracias por verme!
@@rushthewash pues enanos votann de killteam, las dos bandas, y la de necromunda. Mas los bárbaros a pie y el equipo de norses (que equiparé con las armas sobrantes de los bárbaros a pie)
I have 1083 minis. No fulltime equivalent calculation for me, I'll stick with my average performance of 0.7 minis per day (tracked over a 2 year period). I estimate it will take me 4 years, 2 months, 27 days, 3 hours, 25 minutes, and 43 seconds.... :D Looks like I have some room to add on. Let's make it a clean 5 years... 8 years.... 10?... LOL
Sounds like a YOU problem. If Im not enjoying painting models of a specific army (in my case admech) I sell it. Always finish 1 project then move to the other.
Hi Miguel, Hi all.
I think you have a disadvantageous mental approach on the subject.
I once read an article where a professional writer and intellectual describes his immense collection of books as "ok": it is more important to have the opportunity to be able to read something if you are in the right mood and have it at hand rather than not having the opportunity.
I summarize the concept as: having put yourself in a position to have the freedom to undertake something with as little friction as possible.
An example? I make a lot of kitbashing, it's my butter and bread in this hobby, and having the opportunity to choose from a consistent pile of sprues that often gives me the perfect piece that I barely knew to have...what a marvelous feeling!
So YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAINT ALL YOUR MINIS! IMHO
Most of the things we also have out of the hobby ARE SURPLUS! The real meaning of miniature hobbyst trail is mental healthiness, self esteem training, artistic expression, getting in touch with other (most of the time) lovely human beings.
All this at the price of a few small mountains of overpriced plastic.
You know what? I would spend every penny again!
Couple it all with a reasonable spending plan that is sustainable and reduces “uncontrolled waste” and I think you no longer need to think in this unprofitable way.
Imma pin this comment. This is a very good approach to it. I need to let go of that feeling! Thanks a lot!
@@rushthewash always at your side to help if I can my friend 🤜🏻✨🤛🏻
Great video Miguel! So much fun going through this thought exercise and it was great to go through, touch, remember what I have, and get re-invigorated to paint them. Here's a $20 USD hug. I think you need a hug after this. LOL
🫡 a great pleasure, Chuck! Thanks a lot for supporting the channel!!!
Go buy yourself something nice kid! LOL jk@@rushthewash
Moar minis???
old historical gamers call it the Lead Mountain, and if you paint the last one, you die. It is known.
Lead poisoning! I feel inmortal if this is true!
"YOU will NOT paint ALL your minis" quite literally 1984
Big Brother should be watching me paint all my minis... and failing!
Buying enough minis to get to the free shipping threshold is what caused my pile
I have literally no words to describe how I feel about this... I tried emojis, witty remarks, questions... but I can't see how free shipping can get us to this situation. Was it at GW's website?
@@rushthewash I live in New Zealand and the cheapest ay for me to get minis is from Australia though I need to spend $250 to get free shipping.
Aaaand now it all makes sense.
You Kiwis are literally screwed when it comes to minis.
BTW, I need to go see your country. Badly. It has been in my bucket list for years!!
I used a temporary hack - found a store that would take a good portion of my pile of shame for a decent amount of credit. But now I'll just buy more stuff, and hopefully I can keep focus on the new project.
That is a decent compromise. I feel like I need to rethink my whole collection, but I will do it after ToW comes out and I see what I need to have fully playable armies in my collection.
En mi caso se que quiero tener un ejército de cada una de las 16 facciones de warhammer fantasy. También bandas de Mordheim y dos mesas de juego.
Yo tb querría, pero me da a mí que no va a ser...
you're back !
Well researched and a little bit frightening... One more reason to "rush the wash" (tm) !
I have a week off work and had to finish this one! Trying to get the next one editing soon!
Regarding this video, yeah: I'd need to stop buying more stuff and definitely start painting serious hours every day to finish everything off before I kick the bucket. I don't see either of those things happening, tho!
I have an idea. I'll send all of mine to you to paint.
Oh, that would fix it!
DON'T YOU DARE!
So true man, imagine if you stop painting for any reason...the point is enjoying also collecting them even not painted, coulored ones will be the lucky ones in your collection. Good vid. Saludos desde Murcia
Saludos! A darle a la pila de vergüenza!!
I have painted for around 3 years at this point, and looking at my display cabinets, I have at least the same amount of miniatures in my pile of shame if not twice that. Does that mean i plan on stopping buying new boxes any time soon? I don't think so.
I think I am slightly below on unpainted minis, but, yeah... not getting more minis looks more like a death sentence for my drive!
37 years in the hobby, several dozen armies completed including Games Day armies when I worked for Games Workshop, and over all those years I never had a pile of shame much more than 10 figures, until now. I currently have a single army (15mm sci-fi for gruntz 15mm) sitting unpainted. So in my case you are incorrect, Ill have this army painted soon (I need new glasses first).
You have no idea how much I envy you. I used to have a manageable pile not long ago. Then greedy video projects that I am still working on, donations -hey, I am not painting these, do you want them?- and a busy schedule got the best of me.
@@rushthewash I hear that, I think anxiety motivated me a lot, I know it did for the Games Day armies I had to do.
By any chance, did you paint any for a US Game Day?
@@rushthewash None of the US ones, just the one that was in Toronto. Right around the time that LOTR was released. I did a metric ton of Orc Boyz.
@riggermortisfpv526 oh, I feel your pain then! The grind was real.
Professionals like you were the ones that made this hobby into what it is. Big kudos and thanks for your brush service!
My biggest issue is that I'm perfect happy playing pickup games with unpainted minis, so there's a little less incentive to get it all done. But I now have a dollar in dollar out policy. I can only spend as much as I get from selling minis I don't want any more, at least until I make some serious progress.
Once I started painting with everything painted vs people with everything painted, using decent-looking scenery... that was it: I just could not go back. Even for board games!
I think your approach on "dollars out, dollars in" is a great idea, and I should be looking into something on that line to manage what I have at home!
My pile of shame is the stuff of nightmares...
We should start considering other hobbies, like... what would opposite of "hoarding and not painting"?
You crushed my soul
Sorry! Tis a hard pill to swallow!
It's not just miniatures. My mother liked quilting, and she would go to her quilt club meetings, and go shopping at quilt shows, and such-like.
When she died, we had probably a hundred pounds of different fabrics and doo dads that we gave to her friends in the quilt club.
First of all, condolences for your mum's passing.
Secondly, it would be a good idea to have a club where I could share my minis with the other members and maybe paint armies we all could use! That sounds like an awesome idea!
I am personaly absolutly not stressed about my pile of shame. Maybe one suggestion for you is to hire a (charming ?!) assistant to cut the time in two !!!😂 good luck !
Part of the experience is painting them yourselves.
@@dragonmartijn lol, 21 years of painting, mate ! Full time ! I would enjoy to have someone doing at least assembly, preparation, and bases !
But... I don't want my minis painted by someone else! 😗
I know: I want to paint them all and do it myself, but it obviously isn't happening!!!
I wouldn't mind the prep part being done by someone else... that would be awesome!
I stopped worrying about my pile of shame years ago. Just acknowledged that i've got enough miniatures for my grandchildren to paint* and stopped buying miniatures; I've got enough for any game I care to play.
* assuming I ever get around to having children in the first place.
Man, I need some kids then. Maybe 3 or 4 to make sure they all have a chance at finishing what I couldn't! 😞😓😩
@@rushthewash unless somehow they all decide they don't like painting 😅
Chances are they would probably do that... kids!
You know, in the upcoming battle in the next life! your minions consist of all the minis and models you painted to a tabletop Standard.
Now that should be all the inspiration you need 😂
I need more marines and dragons. Too many goblins!
great video! i do keep a constant cycle of selling miniatures as i buy new miniatures, but i must have like 1000 unpainted minis in stock. it can be very hard to let the painted stuff go but i do find the prices you can get for well painted minis, or even just minis that are built and primed exceed my original purchase costs. im not saying im making money, but it is much better that some of my other hobbies where money just disappears.
The resell prices for old classic models are quite reasonable to consider parting with some minis from time to time, that's true. Things that in 2004 or 2005 would be considered obsolete are now absolute collector's gold. Never throw anything away in this hobby!
Except maybe plastic marines. Those are so prevalent everywhere nobody really pays much for them.
Ok, hear me out. Once you did the estimation. Time for cheat codes. Put all your unpainted plastic in front of you. Don't even take them off the sprues.
Step 1: a whole weekend. Zenithil prime everything: Undercoat everything black, then white (except for your exceptions - some require different undercoating). But big batch day of undercoating everything. One weekend and everything is done. I mean EVERYTHING. You will need a lot of undercoating paint and a air brush to spray paint. Can't afford to have defective material. Must flow.
Step 2: a 2nd whole weekend. Undercoat everything with their main color. Put every sprue on it's respective pile, depending on it's main color. Airbrush. Won't be perfect. But you will come back to fix imperfections later. Say, ultramarines all go in the blue pile. All orcs/gretchins/goblins/Greenskins go in green pile. Do one pile at a time. Wash airbrush in between piles. Get it all done before the end of 2nd weekend.
Step 3: This is gonna get more and more annoying. Do all metals. Do all woods. Do all skin color... Taylorism ain't fun, but it gets stuff done. One weekend of metals, one weekend of wood, one of cloths... Just power through it.
You won't get the perfect end result you wanted. But you won't wait 25 years. The results will be incrementally better and better every weekend.
Mother of all rules: Don't add anything to the pile until you finish it. No exceptions. Ever. No, not even for that thing you're thinking about. Nope. Forget it. I said forget it.
Oh, and sell away the stuff you don't appreciate. Space is worth more than collectibles in the new world order during this big reset.
after this, you can come back and do highlights of the miniatures that you like most.
But this psychological experience of realizing you're in way deeper than you thought... it's still positive, because it elicits a response out of you. You're alive again and not in autopilot mode.
oh and at the end, you can take them off the sprues and assemble them. of course. But the later, the better. It helps stay organised. You will have a final weekend of fixing up the sprew marks. I never said this method is perfect.
This has been pinned, because I think it is a very good approach. A killer, no doubt, but still feasible.
Might try it with a couple of things I got around.
If your 2 boxes would take you 21 years... I have 2 boxes for 14 warhammer fantasy armies... 😮...
If we shared this with the whole world, two things would happen at once:
Everyone would play Warhammer
GW would stop selling miniatures
😀😃🙂🙃
@@rushthewash
I think it would de-Value the whole warhammer fantasy range 🤭😅
@@chestfullosixes5808oh... is that bad or good?😅
@rushthewash
It is good. Make the hobby more affordable haha
@chestfullosixes5808 and they we can buy MORE MINIS!
Oh, wait a second... 😱 👀 🤔
I enjoy painting my minis, no matter how long it takes.......I'm currently at just X-30 years...😅
Enjoying Painting Toy Soldiers and Enjoying Finishing Tasks are two of my traits. One isn't being addressed, tho. 😞
Gran vídeo Miguel, creo que es hora de que saque la hoja de excel y hacer cuentas. Aunque también me quedo pensando formas de darle la vuelta a esos números 🤔
Vende algunas minis, regala otras, decide con qué te quedas, ponte a pintar usando técnicas de pintado rápido!
I have a few unpainted minis from 2001, so I can believe 21 years.
😅
If all problems in life were like this... oh, well!
You know, come to think of it. I used to collect lotr models from a monthly magazine. I painted them all every month. So... I basically did finish my models a few times. But... nowadays with 40k?😅
Those monthly magazines were quite popular in Spain too! The Fantasy ones brought a lot of people to the fold around the 2000's. If you painted as you went, it was a great way to collect minis!
i have imperium magazine collection. I cannot keep up with it on a regular basis. I has to be sprints of work, and it's not as "fun" as it's told to be, for me anyway, if i want to get stuff painted, you gotta power through it. Otherwise you spend a year looking at a single mini in total paralysis analysis.
This is absolutely true: unless you sit down and start painting, nothing will get down. The most difficult part is actually beginning a paint session. After that, it is all much much easier.
Have you ever heard about some I think citadel miniatures, not being of white metal, but some being of gold and some of silver? It was considered to be the most expensive game ever ( in the 80’s) and it was kind of a dungeon crawler like Heroquest but with glass floors to play on. It would be nice to have those expensive ones… well painted. 😂 You give me hope, thanks to you I already painted my old HQ and together we will attack that pile of shame! 😂
Wow, what? I need to find out about that :○
I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING AND NOW I WANNA KNOW SO BADLY!
@@rushthewash I saw an article of it in an early 80’s comic magazine long before I was conscious enough to know anything about miniatures. We shall see if we can find it. Anyway it was way back already too expensive and it wasn’t produced on a serious scale. BTW the figures came UNPAINTED, so it looked very boring at first sight, even with those metals.
I am so damned curious about this... hopefully we can find more about it!!!
My pile of shame is a half built knight. That’s it.
Can’t buy the next mini until I’ve finished the last one. Ez rule.
One which I forgot to adhere to, and which I cannot recommend hard enough! Hats off to you!
Me encanta tu canal, uno de los tres de habla inglesa que veo con los subtítulos . No , no quiero calcular cuanto tiempo tardaré en pintar mi pi... mi montaña de la verguenza, me da que sería similar a la tuya, y esto lo pongo la semana que he pedido 50 minis más, y contando que si son de plástico suelo hacer conversiones en la inmensa mayoría no quiero ni pensar cuanto tardaré. Besos para ti tambien.
Si es tenemos algo en nuestra personalidad - o en nuestra genética incluso! - que nos hace ser así de masoquistas, no lo entiendo.
Que sea leve el proceso de conversion y pintura! Qué has comprado?
Y muchas gracias por verme!
@@rushthewash pues enanos votann de killteam, las dos bandas, y la de necromunda. Mas los bárbaros a pie y el equipo de norses (que equiparé con las armas sobrantes de los bárbaros a pie)
I have 1083 minis. No fulltime equivalent calculation for me, I'll stick with my average performance of 0.7 minis per day (tracked over a 2 year period). I estimate it will take me 4 years, 2 months, 27 days, 3 hours, 25 minutes, and 43 seconds.... :D Looks like I have some room to add on. Let's make it a clean 5 years... 8 years.... 10?... LOL
That sounds feasible, tho. Quite doable!
Hahahahahaha me llevaaaa la que me trajo
Jajaja! Necesito devolver unas cuantas!
@@rushthewash jamas
la idea es acaparar minis para tener la jubilacion entretenida jajajajajajaja
No, si deberia irme jubilando ya!
I WriTE In RAndom cAPS for NO FUCKING ReaSoN
There ARE reasons FOR IT, but WE don't discuss THOSE in CoMmEnTs.
there are no such thing as a pile of shame. it only means i have enough models to make really cool shit with
I just can't wait to have all my cool shit done with mine! But, alas... it doesn't seem it will happen in the foreseeable future 😞
Sounds like a YOU problem. If Im not enjoying painting models of a specific army (in my case admech) I sell it. Always finish 1 project then move to the other.
Sounds more like you are way smarter than me! 😞
how do you have such will power? How did your parents teach you that behavior? I know of noone that is capable of such wonders.
Simple, I only do projects I will enjoy doing. @@jeanfoutre3620
Just sell it
What do you want to buy? Kahjiit has wares!