Youtube's Legal Team sent me a letter! 😃

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  • @JaredFarnum
    @JaredFarnum 4 місяці тому +15768

    I’m going to miss this channel.

    • @rossmanngroup
      @rossmanngroup  4 місяці тому +9111

      It's been a fun 12 years! In that time, we've:
      a) Got right to repair passed for farmers
      b) woke up people to the idea that companies are trying to make everything unfixable & take away rights of ownership
      c) taught a few hundred thousand people how to do component-level repairs at their businesses to increase their economic viability & save customers money
      d) demonstrated to customers they were possible, got a open-source wheelchair non-profit funded two hundred thousand dollars
      e) Got a wheelchair right to repair bill passed in Colorado so people don't have to wait three to six months to be able to move again.
      _None of this could have been accomplished without all of you._ You will always have my gratitude and thanks. *I had a good run!!*
      When I'm 80 years old, I will look back on my time spent here with a smile. *NO REGRETS!* All I ask, is that when this channel is deleted, you carry on the torch for repairability, ownership, and freedom in your own lives & social circles, and keep it about the issues without mentioning me.

    • @DyslexicMitochondria
      @DyslexicMitochondria 4 місяці тому +68

      @@rossmanngroup thank you for everything. UA-cam is a raging monopoly. Recently I decided to remove monetization from my channeI because i want people to watch my stuff for free, and now yt is sending me emails threatening to remove me from the partner program, and that I can't put "no ads" in my title. Such a petty organization

    • @tomhappening
      @tomhappening 4 місяці тому +62

      uh

    • @Bellicosy
      @Bellicosy 4 місяці тому +3

      @@rossmanngroup We, the thankless and incorrigible, don't deserve you.

    • @571grover
      @571grover 4 місяці тому +448

      ​@rossmanngroup you arent leaving right? I do admire your work a lot.

  • @enemixius
    @enemixius 4 місяці тому +17348

    UA-cam: "We strive to keep UA-cam a safe and responsible community"
    Also UA-cam: *allows literal scams to advertise on the platform*

    • @Rexhunterj
      @Rexhunterj 4 місяці тому +444

      Then in their next breath to parliaments or senates they say "With a platform as volumous as ours we simply cannot afford the man hours required to manually review all appeals, advertising applicants and acts of TOS violation so we will continue to employ machine algorithms and bare minimum human interaction to run our business as the expense of other human beings livelihoods."

    • @glanyan5462
      @glanyan5462 4 місяці тому +237

      100% true. Plus fake celeb endorsements... Julia Roberts in an erectile disjunction ad, for example.

    • @MemoryMori
      @MemoryMori 4 місяці тому

      Dont forget pdf.files and Naked Yoga videos -.-"""

    • @knifekitty_ls
      @knifekitty_ls 4 місяці тому +128

      and thats how you know youtube acts like bunch of liars and you should treat them as such

    • @salpertia
      @salpertia 4 місяці тому +52

      What are you talking about bro you don't want to get your Russian mail order bride?

  • @jhoncho4x4
    @jhoncho4x4 4 місяці тому +8096

    100k subs silver button, 1 million subs gold button, 2 million subs threatening letter.

    • @MrERLoner
      @MrERLoner 4 місяці тому +154

      It seems.youve gotten too.big for our britches

    • @kesamek8537
      @kesamek8537 4 місяці тому +159

      5 million subs you get a visit from men in suits with an offer you are unable to refuse because that option is not available to you.

    • @SEEYAIAYE
      @SEEYAIAYE 4 місяці тому +53

      Correction 1 million subs you get a piece of balsa wood spray painted with gold, they gave up on giving out those pure Gold play buttons out probably after the 1000th time.

    • @auturgicflosculator2183
      @auturgicflosculator2183 4 місяці тому +50

      @@SEEYAIAYE It's never been pure; it's an alloy containing at most about 20% gold...and that layer is thinner than spider silk, with brass underneath. The gold might be worth a couple of cents if you melted it down. Might.

    • @kyleshockley1573
      @kyleshockley1573 4 місяці тому +18

      Now _that's_ incentive, the Soviet way!

  • @panhandlep
    @panhandlep 4 місяці тому +3173

    Can you imagine if UA-cam had this same legal dedication towards stopping their scam ads?

    • @kesamek8537
      @kesamek8537 4 місяці тому +176

      UA-cam is the biggest scam on UA-cam.

    • @beetheimmortal
      @beetheimmortal 4 місяці тому +184

      Don't forget, they also allow literal porn ads as well as actual porn (but called "naked yoga"). Hypocrites, all of them.

    • @coweatsman
      @coweatsman 4 місяці тому +34

      Like the Establishment Tittles "You can be a lord" scam".

    • @ryanhamstra49
      @ryanhamstra49 4 місяці тому +62

      Or porn bots. Or all the “accidental” demonetizations that are always on one side of the isle? Or the fake copyright strikes?

    • @zacky7572
      @zacky7572 4 місяці тому +27

      There had to be serious PR backlash for them to do anything about SSSniperWolf…

  • @RicoGalassi
    @RicoGalassi 3 місяці тому +597

    This is what happens with monopolies.
    The company grows so large that their support is trash, they go after literally anyone interfering with their product at any capacity, they no longer have stable channels and the whole service becomes a web of garbage.
    Thank you for teaching us so much Louis!

    • @playablue
      @playablue 3 місяці тому

      Just like the us goverment father gaining control of america
      Or what was done to africa after imperialism of the wet ran thru it

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 3 місяці тому

      It's just capitalism and neo-fuedalism in play. UA-cam could have hundreds of competitors and the same problems would still happen, because we are tied to the digital land, we can't migrate our accounts and content across platforms. Competition fixes nothing, just like no liberal philosopher back in the day advocated for capitalism without regulations and rules.

    • @UntamedAustin
      @UntamedAustin 3 місяці тому

      Then they incorporate under a new name and continue on.

    • @HaggardPillockHD
      @HaggardPillockHD 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@brony_in_the_sticks I'd tweak that to say that any market without sufficient regulation, will tend towards a monopoly

    • @kipter
      @kipter 2 місяці тому +3

      @@HaggardPillockHD too much regulation also causes monopolies because regulators can be bribed this is the situation we are in currently.

  • @Jakobsh2
    @Jakobsh2 4 місяці тому +7279

    As Gaben said:
    “Piracy is a service issue”
    When the service is worse than a pirated version, piracy is inevitable.

  • @Just-some-other-guy
    @Just-some-other-guy 4 місяці тому +3886

    "If you cut out a mans tongue, you're not proving him a liar, you're proving that you're afraid of what he has to say"

    • @jajafeedyns8082
      @jajafeedyns8082 4 місяці тому +112

      "You're a liar!"
      _Suppresses_ _the_ _liar_
      Those actions alone will make many doubt if one is actually lying.

    • @Acetyl53
      @Acetyl53 4 місяці тому +31

      It's not that simple. This isn't medieval times anymore, information delivery and warfare has evolved.

    • @SSEi02
      @SSEi02 4 місяці тому +112

      @@Acetyl53it’s exactly that simple

    • @Acetyl53
      @Acetyl53 4 місяці тому

      @@SSEi02 It isn't. I regularly see people fall into cognitive sinks in the "alt media" which are simply controlled opposition pushing truth mixed with lies, and they never find their way out. Nor do they desire to. They found their new cult of personality, their new identity.

    • @Acetyl53
      @Acetyl53 4 місяці тому +14

      @@SSEi02 It deleted my reply.

  • @Shadenir
    @Shadenir 3 місяці тому +148

    Beautiful response. Screw YT.

  • @clementpruvost8670
    @clementpruvost8670 4 місяці тому +1310

    Nah I can't believe they sent you their legal teams. I swear their TOS applies at random intervals and 0% of the time for ads.

    • @Diddz
      @Diddz 4 місяці тому

      If we collectively can somehow manipulate the political climate to put youtube ads as a national security threaf, watch how fast youtube finally gets regulated and changed when it appears to threaten political agendas

    • @ambiarock590
      @ambiarock590 4 місяці тому +120

      They enforce it when it benefits them, not when it doesn't. Shocker

    • @JustAGooseman
      @JustAGooseman 4 місяці тому +56

      @@ambiarock590 Legally speaking, that actually makes their entire Terms of Service moot. Its the same logic as Copyright only with a ToS/EULA, it is not actually legally binding.

    • @avereth
      @avereth 4 місяці тому +17

      "Our ToS applies to this thing not even part of the UA-cam environment."

    • @yoyogre
      @yoyogre 4 місяці тому +12

      ​@@JustAGooseman Technically, ToS/EULA are legally binding, as long as you actually press that "agree" button, as it all falls under contract law. But all the terms may or may not be enforceable. There's thing you just can't legally put in a contract, and the restrictions can vary greatly from one country to another.
      As I understand it, US laws tends to allow a lot of bullshit.

  • @All_I_can_say_is_Wow
    @All_I_can_say_is_Wow 4 місяці тому +3153

    The only honest thing youtube ever told me was that if I kept telling the truth, they wouldn't let me talk anymore.

    • @vercingetorix3839
      @vercingetorix3839 4 місяці тому +84

      Next thing you know, they'll take my thoughts away

    • @bluedistortions
      @bluedistortions 4 місяці тому

      We are a sexually dimorphic species, determined by biology. Multiculturalism destroys countries. Despite doing trillions in damages through it's heavy handed restrictions, every single person on the planet was exposed to C®VID anyway, so they accomplished nothing through the global shutdown. Electric vehicles are far worse for the environment than simple, economical cars that last for decades, like they were in the 80s. The entire concept of carbon production and climate change is flawed.
      On and on. Every area of life. Telling the truth is a hate crime that gets you banned.

    • @SoundsFromBeyond
      @SoundsFromBeyond 4 місяці тому +23

      @@vercingetorix3839 I know what I said, and now I must scream, of the o-ver-dose, and the lack of mercy killings

    • @daddyattitude
      @daddyattitude 4 місяці тому

      Same here

    • @Acetyl53
      @Acetyl53 4 місяці тому +9

      @@vercingetorix3839 They can't actually do that because your real basis is outside of the universe / simulation. They have to tamper with your memory and emotional states in an indirect roundabout way, through the physical body.

  • @MikeDoesRandomThings
    @MikeDoesRandomThings 4 місяці тому +1065

    So they ignored the initial response, so they could act like you didn't respond? That sounds like UA-cam.

    • @doltBmB
      @doltBmB 4 місяці тому +104

      sounds like any tyrannical bureaucracy

    • @Tall_Order
      @Tall_Order 4 місяці тому +99

      Wait until they try to sue him and he presents to the judge that he never used their API. UA-cam will get laughed out of court.

    • @s01itarygaming
      @s01itarygaming 4 місяці тому +15

      Definitely a *UA-cam Moment*

    • @Acrimonious-Dragon
      @Acrimonious-Dragon 4 місяці тому +45

      @@Tall_Order Google would Try to drag out the case over a long period of time to try to make it a battle of wallets not facts. Unless the lawyers involved had the smarts to tell the judge to put a hard cap on it / make google pay the bill if they want to keep it up. tldr: abuse of process

    • @GrumpyIan
      @GrumpyIan 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Tall_Ordernot necessarily remember Google is a multi billion dollar company. They'll drag him through the courts and rack up his attorney fees.

  • @8188rr
    @8188rr 2 місяці тому +14

    An AI with borderline personality disorder.... That's the best description of youtube I've ever heard!

  • @Rohv
    @Rohv 4 місяці тому +2551

    I'm a lawyer. My advice also is if you receive a demand letter with a period to comply. Don't feel pressured to follow that timeline. That period is just a number that a lawyer pulled up his ass and has no legal basis or effect if not followed.

    • @onojioboardwalk9748
      @onojioboardwalk9748 4 місяці тому +28

      What 'Program' is this guy talking about that google wants him to stop offering?

    • @ryoukaip
      @ryoukaip 4 місяці тому

      an app made by his team, help you to watch UA-cam with no ads, and more features ​@@onojioboardwalk9748

    • @tacticalmosquito6480
      @tacticalmosquito6480 4 місяці тому

      @@onojioboardwalk9748 grayjay. look it up.

    • @corinthiansdaniels3728
      @corinthiansdaniels3728 4 місяці тому

      ​@@onojioboardwalk9748 greyjay

    • @RicardoTorres-vo3bq
      @RicardoTorres-vo3bq 4 місяці тому

      ​@@onojioboardwalk9748 its grayjay, an app that allows you to follow creators in all of their plataforms at once

  • @blackrifle6736
    @blackrifle6736 4 місяці тому +2229

    Louis, keep kicking their asses at every opportunity. You have a righteous fire in your belly and my eternal respect. Cheers!

    •  4 місяці тому +283

      you: "keep kicking their asses" *proceeds to leave a tip, leaving part of it for them*
      (see description for donation options)

    • @rossmanngroup
      @rossmanngroup  4 місяці тому +361

      THANK YOU!

    • @mouhamadyoussouf9320
      @mouhamadyoussouf9320 4 місяці тому +4

      Why typing in full CAPITAL letters again????​@@rossmanngroup

    • @xp8969
      @xp8969 4 місяці тому +137

      😂​​​@@mouhamadyoussouf9320 same reason you used FOUR question marks: emphasis

    • @rippedtorn2310
      @rippedtorn2310 4 місяці тому

      @@davidpattison5860 is it aye ?

  • @p5eudo883
    @p5eudo883 4 місяці тому +1040

    When legal teams send out abusive letters that are clearly just an attempt at legal bullying and not well-founded arguments with merit, they should be liable for paying large fines to the targets of their legal bullying.

    • @davidgoodnow269
      @davidgoodnow269 4 місяці тому +43

      If there was a specific legal issue, I think the letter would be specific about it.
      From _this_ letter, I gather the specific issue is something _the data that may be gathered with UA-cam API_ *is* the specific concern, and *they are afraid* to be _specific_ about the nature of the data, _perhaps_ because it would be damaging to reputation or market?

    • @PoniesNSunshine
      @PoniesNSunshine 4 місяці тому

      ​@@davidgoodnow269nah, the API issue is because Facebook used to share their API and various bots harvested all the data, remember when Zuckerberg got dragged into Congress?

    • @noahw4623
      @noahw4623 4 місяці тому +4

      It could potentially be considered fraud, which would make it a felony in many jurisdictions, but good luck enforcing

    • @JD-xz1mx
      @JD-xz1mx 4 місяці тому +3

      Its America.
      You can't fine people for speech.......obviously.

    • @JD-xz1mx
      @JD-xz1mx 4 місяці тому

      @@noahw4623 Its only fraud if you can't establish that the speaker did not believe it to be true. You can't.

  • @VintageTVMemories
    @VintageTVMemories 3 місяці тому +348

    As someone who has had his measly 5,000-subscriber channel taken down for no reason with no means of reaching out to anyone or contesting, I support you wholeheartedly. Thank you for being so amazing.

    • @yosefmacgruber1920
      @yosefmacgruber1920 3 місяці тому +6

      That is hugely why a lot of people have moved over to Rumble.

    • @Unmethicated
      @Unmethicated 3 місяці тому +9

      It’s stupid. They send you a link to said video that doesn’t work because they took it down and don’t actually tell us the exact reason it was taken down…. Stupid

    • @VintageTVMemories
      @VintageTVMemories 3 місяці тому

      @@yosefmacgruber1920 Isn't Rumble the right-wing conspiracy theory platform? No matter how much I hate UA-cam and their BS practices, I would never support a right-wing platform.

    • @VintageTVMemories
      @VintageTVMemories 3 місяці тому +27

      @@Unmethicated I had zero strikes. I had no warnings. One day I just tried to log in and my channel was gone. I got an e-mail and it said nothing at all about what I had infringed. I tried to contest only to get automated e-mails saying they're upholding their decision.

    • @yosefmacgruber1920
      @yosefmacgruber1920 3 місяці тому

      @@Unmethicated
      YT seems to be giving away their market-share to other similar websites that are not so manipulated or censored. But the religious fanatics who fear the truth, don't appear to care about the mess that they make. I spend more time on Rumble now, as YT is nearly worthless when it comes to things political.
      Why/How would they state the reason? There is no valid reason.

  • @margyrowland
    @margyrowland 4 місяці тому +1261

    Thank you for making the Google communications public Mr Rossmann. We can see what they’re up to.

    • @RT-qd8yl
      @RT-qd8yl 4 місяці тому +99

      Never forget, they made a conscious decision to get rid of the motto "Don't be evil".

    • @aj.j5833
      @aj.j5833 4 місяці тому +43

      @@RT-qd8yl Only evil have motto of "Don't be evil". The good doesn't have to tell themselves not to be evil and pretend not to be evil.

    • @baxter1252
      @baxter1252 4 місяці тому +28

      ​@RT-qd8yl They just realized they weren't fooling anyone who was paying attention, and people who weren't didn't know what their motto was, so having the motto was pointless.

    • @CD-vb9fi
      @CD-vb9fi 4 місяці тому

      @@aj.j5833 there are not "good guys" just multiple groups of scumbags whining about the other scumbags trying to call themselves good. If you think you are good... then you are definitely evil.

    • @GolemRising
      @GolemRising 4 місяці тому

      @@aj.j5833 For as long as the people who put the motto up were still at the company, they largely followed the motto. No huge corp is good but I would not have classified anything google did in those early days as "evil"
      Once those people were gone, however, things turned south quickly. And they also took down the motto.
      Another way of thinking of it might be: With the motto, they were aspiring to be better. Without the motto, they stopped bothering to try.

  • @RoseKindred
    @RoseKindred 4 місяці тому +1487

    How nice of them to provide some free toilet paper, and content.

    • @fckgooogle1000x
      @fckgooogle1000x 4 місяці тому

      Some nice kindling to keep my home warm

    • @alexwelch7198
      @alexwelch7198 4 місяці тому +31

      Would you look at that there's another deleted comment...... I wonder what the other person said😂

    • @billyhatcher643
      @billyhatcher643 4 місяці тому +31

      youtube being stupid like always

    • @dashboard-11
      @dashboard-11 4 місяці тому +4

      🤣😆🤣

    • @Tukahuba25
      @Tukahuba25 4 місяці тому

      ​@@billyhatcher643 then they wonder why they get bodied by tiktok and such other companies nowadays. They would probably call Einstein a trator by their standards oh wait 🫸 yearning for it.

  • @AngryJT
    @AngryJT 4 місяці тому +3569

    UA-cam is a bunch of [censored by UA-cam].

    • @Good_Horsey
      @Good_Horsey 4 місяці тому +108

      I love when they delete comments that so much as mention that other platform that rhymes with mumble.

    • @birdjericho
      @birdjericho 4 місяці тому +31

      I don't know what's worse, writing a comment just for [this section of the comment has been banned by the UA-cam Legal Department because of reasons], or to see your comment get repl [this section of the comment has been brought to you by Google. Enjoy Google today!] fterwards get kicked by a mule. I mean, right? 😛

    • @Tukahuba25
      @Tukahuba25 4 місяці тому

      Gotti

    • @Tukahuba25
      @Tukahuba25 4 місяці тому

      Got germs and shit on my boots.

    • @DeeSnow97
      @DeeSnow97 4 місяці тому +11

      just go full rtgame and youtube those youtube youtubes

  • @LakeGreen
    @LakeGreen 3 місяці тому +174

    "I've gotten four Laws passed in three states, over two years--with one million dollars." -L. Hossmann
    ...as a words person, I think this is gold!
    Love ya, man. Keep up the good fight!!

    • @doctorhfuhruhurr4380
      @doctorhfuhruhurr4380 3 місяці тому +4

      There are millions of laws, it means nothing.

    • @MrObsidus
      @MrObsidus 3 місяці тому

      ​@@doctorhfuhruhurr4380 It means more than your inane comment, tho.

    • @VioletOrbWeaver
      @VioletOrbWeaver 3 місяці тому +7

      @@doctorhfuhruhurr4380sure it does! there’s not as many laws as there are people, so louis’s ratio is exceptional

    • @kak42
      @kak42 3 місяці тому

      @@VioletOrbWeaver Laws are just will of people in power made into a rule
      It _does_ "mean nothing" in some sense

    • @ProleDaddy
      @ProleDaddy 3 місяці тому +2

      Would you look at that? Only large sums of money makes law. That's not democratic at all. That means employers and the rich (capitalists) make law
      Guess who that tends to represent?

  • @eriktherandomstuff3368
    @eriktherandomstuff3368 4 місяці тому +1451

    Thank you for fighting for what's right when no one else will.

    • @k_e_K_e___
      @k_e_K_e___ 4 місяці тому

      google is so evil

    • @John17TheOGmp4
      @John17TheOGmp4 4 місяці тому +5

      I also want to be part of it no matter what...

    • @eriktherandomstuff3368
      @eriktherandomstuff3368 4 місяці тому +14

      @@yoshisaidit7250 it's not about the amount of money. It's a gesture.

    • @theorphanobliterator
      @theorphanobliterator 4 місяці тому

      you can donate to him and his organization via grayjay ​@@yoshisaidit7250

    • @theorphanobliterator
      @theorphanobliterator 4 місяці тому

      ​@@eriktherandomstuff3368"it isn't about the money, it's about sending a message"

  • @Kuddley_Peach
    @Kuddley_Peach 4 місяці тому +769

    What an absolute UNIT. called them out on their own platform.
    this needs to get to #trending

    • @stevenwilson5556
      @stevenwilson5556 4 місяці тому

      amen

    • @chrisrus1965
      @chrisrus1965 4 місяці тому +2

      He has never shown any interest in Zionism, has he?

    • @nathanielalderson9111
      @nathanielalderson9111 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@chrisrus1965
      Zionism is a good thing.
      Time to change your mind.

    • @wax_axiom479
      @wax_axiom479 4 місяці тому +4

      This channel has already been shadow banned for years now...

    • @sumduma55
      @sumduma55 4 місяці тому

      ​@@chrisrus1965you would be foolish if you let that matter. It's kind of like biting your nose off just to spite your face.

  • @hans2five
    @hans2five 4 місяці тому +824

    Aaaaaaand I just downloaded Gray Jay. 15 minutes in and I'm instantly reminded of about 20 channels that UA-cam no longer wants me to see. Cheers Rossmann.

    • @TheBandit7613
      @TheBandit7613 4 місяці тому +14

      What id GreyJay?

    • @hans2five
      @hans2five 4 місяці тому

      @@TheBandit7613 the application that Luis Rossmann talks about in this video. Check it out. Basically it combines rumble, UA-cam, etc etc etc video streaming apps into one so that you can follow your favorite content creators without having to switch between platforms.

    • @NickiRusin
      @NickiRusin 4 місяці тому

      ​​@@TheBandit7613 the app Louis Rossman is developing, a better UA-cam & other content site client

    • @nightknight6947
      @nightknight6947 4 місяці тому +33

      me too. hopefully, youtube is about to Streisand effect tf outta this ap.

    • @mattmorrissr3571
      @mattmorrissr3571 4 місяці тому +4

      Is the app on Apple?

  • @Nereosis16
    @Nereosis16 4 місяці тому +300

    You nailed it perfectly on why I have refused to pay for UA-cam. I love the content on UA-cam but youtube have absolutely no respect for those who use their platform.
    You are paying for content that has to be made in accordance with their ridiculous ad friendly standards. So, what am I paying for? Worse content?
    Absolutely not.

    • @PomuLeafEveryday
      @PomuLeafEveryday 3 місяці тому +3

      I support you, and I don't think anybody should pay. But at the same time, if everybody started paying and they were able to scrap ads, wouldn't the service be better? On the other hand, I suppose free content is a valuable resource and ads are the only way to support that. How should UA-cam as a business actually be run?

    • @mercier300
      @mercier300 3 місяці тому +4

      u dont pay because u dont have any money, stop acting like u got all these good values

    • @Nereosis16
      @Nereosis16 3 місяці тому +24

      @@mercier300 What a brilliant argument.
      Nobody can have values unless they have disposable income.
      Have you considered that maybe you're a terrible person?

    • @Nereosis16
      @Nereosis16 3 місяці тому +16

      @@PomuLeafEveryday If everyone started paying they would scrap ads for a short period of time then they would push for more revenue and ads would be back.
      Corporations need to make more money. Infinitely. They can't be happy with a lot they need more.

    • @tradingnichols2255
      @tradingnichols2255 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Nereosis16 Yes, I think so, which is why as UA-cam premium payer, whatever they call it now... I've had a similar moment. I use sub channels. I find UA-cam isn't smart enough to understand my various interests, so with this sub channel I watch tech, trading news, etc., etc., on another I produce more content for example.
      I switched between these on an airplane and suddenly, unless I connected to the internet, not possible on this flight, they apologized, I was not going to be able to watch anything I downloaded. My heart dropped like you wouldn't believe. This is literally how I deal with flying. I watched an inflight movie... enjoyed myself reasonably, but got none of the research I'm usually doing done so I wasted my time and it relatively felt horrible.
      Most of my experiences are fine, but this SUUUUCKED.

  • @budworx1639
    @budworx1639 4 місяці тому +318

    UA-cam’s download policy is BS. I download a lot of videos to watch in my down time when I work in remote areas with no service and I run into this unavailable without internet BS way to often.

    • @LatitudeSky
      @LatitudeSky 4 місяці тому +31

      There are other apps that facilitate downloads. Many seem to operate from China where they cannot agree to the TOS on a service banned in their country. Apps from China do not give two shakes about rules, TOS terms, or even copyright laws.

    • @ZergRadio
      @ZergRadio 4 місяці тому +1

      JDownloader 2 is a great piece of software. Downloads from sites that make is so hard to download stuff from their website.

    • @Ebani
      @Ebani 4 місяці тому +1

      Your fault for using UA-cam

    • @cjboyo
      @cjboyo 4 місяці тому +40

      @@EbaniYou say… on youtube

    • @xchronox0
      @xchronox0 4 місяці тому +18

      But if you were to say, use a third party downloader, that just gives you the files, for free, would that work for you?
      There's not only a bunch of websites that do it for you, but there's even programs, like yt-dlp, etc.
      Hell, even VLC will let you download a youtube video.

  • @SeaScoutDan
    @SeaScoutDan 4 місяці тому +217

    Wish UA-cam would say which terms of service are being broken, and provide an example. The UA-cam letter does not have actionable details.
    It is like receiving a ticket from a traffic cop that says "Drive Better".

    • @kimmieb2u
      @kimmieb2u 4 місяці тому +4

      Exactly!!!!

    • @bergmanoswell879
      @bergmanoswell879 4 місяці тому +22

      They claim that by giving out details on exactly what is or is not allowed, it would allow people to "game" the system. The idea is fundamentally absurd - it presumes that the natural state of EVERYONE is to be in violation, and NOT committing violations is somehow dishonest or shady behavior, that strips the policy enforcer of rightful authority to act.

    • @ShaggyRogers1
      @ShaggyRogers1 4 місяці тому +15

      @@bergmanoswell879 The problem there is that such actions are a blatant attempt to game the system. How are you supposed to launch a proper legal argument when the opponent won't even tell you what their position actually is?

    • @madarah8533
      @madarah8533 4 місяці тому +4

      UA-cam has operated like this almost since the beginning. Vague rules with selective enforcement and never comment on anything

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade 4 місяці тому

      It is a method used by authoritarians to keep you walking on eggshells and paranoid. It is to create a chilling effect and suppress dissent.

  • @wadz668
    @wadz668 4 місяці тому +879

    UA-cam probably knows they've got nothing on Futo and are hoping you'll stop if they ask threateningly.

    • @kaibe5241
      @kaibe5241 4 місяці тому +36

      Yeah, they've totally picked the wrong horse in this race.

    • @abrahamnarvaez1730
      @abrahamnarvaez1730 4 місяці тому +53

      @@kaibe5241 have they ever picked the right horse in these situations

    • @MichaelTilton
      @MichaelTilton 4 місяці тому +18

      Reminds me of that one scene in Demolition Man, where the cops are trying to arrest Wesley Snipes character "with a stern voice"

    • @heathbruce9928
      @heathbruce9928 4 місяці тому

      Unfortunately they have enough money to drag people thru the courts and run them dry of funds. Though scotus has been smacking the hands of big corps who do that.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 4 місяці тому +62

      The letter used "please" a lot and not "You are ordered to..."
      Also, the letter was not a summons or subpoena.
      You are right that this is subtle threats, kind of like, "Nice shop you got here. Be a shame if something happened to it."

  • @etienne2315
    @etienne2315 4 місяці тому +18

    When youtube says keep youtube safe and responsible it means shielding itself rather than the users or creators.

  • @vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763
    @vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763 4 місяці тому +477

    The only way to be safe is to assume ALL YT ads to be scams.

    • @clray123
      @clray123 4 місяці тому +12

      Not just YT ads, mind you.

    • @tehbonehead
      @tehbonehead 4 місяці тому

      @jessiesewell4076 don't forget about data collection by espionage agencies and political kickbacks...

    • @sihamhamda47
      @sihamhamda47 4 місяці тому +10

      As FBI starting to recommend everyone to use adblocker, we already know that the scam ads situation is getting much worse now

    • @steveanimatrix3887
      @steveanimatrix3887 4 місяці тому

      What ads? uBlock Origin doesn't allow me to see them for years now.

    • @keksitzee1094
      @keksitzee1094 4 місяці тому

      America, Land of the Free to Fuck Over Your Own Countrymen to Gain Nothing but Hate for Yourself.

  • @BoredPodcaster
    @BoredPodcaster 4 місяці тому +316

    Google's just mad you solved a problem they created, rather than pay them to continue ignoring said problem. Their complaint is purely about money, and in a clear case of corporate narcissism, they think they can push you around using a TOS that doesn't apply to your app.
    Give them hell.

    • @JimboJuice
      @JimboJuice 4 місяці тому

      UA-cam is a giant vault of money hemorrhaging into a bottomless pit. they don't care about money, they care about the power youtube gives them.

    • @xchronox0
      @xchronox0 4 місяці тому +11

      "But but keeping our community safe :)"
      I have no idea how that phrase even applies whatsoever. If anything, FUTO is the one keeping the community safe. Safe from UA-cam.

    • @steamerSama
      @steamerSama 4 місяці тому +3

      TBH as a business UA-cam can decide how it's content can be distributed because, they are doing the heavy lifting of storing trillions of hours of video, streaming all their content pretty seamlessly, with multiple data centers across the world. Grayjay is hitchhiking on UA-cam amongst other platforms.

    • @liberality
      @liberality 4 місяці тому +8

      ​@@steamerSama UA-cam is paying zero to the content creators. Any pennies paid out come from advertisers. So it is actually UA-cam's platform monopoly which is profiting from creators, most of whom earn little to nothing from their labour.

  • @NebulaLuna
    @NebulaLuna 4 місяці тому +188

    The youtube premium download issue is exactly why I stopped paying a subscription to YT Premium and Spotify!! I go on the road a lot outside of cell service. Multiple times I've had Spotify completely remove my downloads (well within the 30 day download expiration limit) for no reason while I am out. I have youtube premium yelling at me to connect to the internet to use my downloads fully defeating the purpose. I got fed up and ended up ripping all my liked songs on both platforms and throwing the mp3's into my phone.

    • @michaelcorcoran8768
      @michaelcorcoran8768 4 місяці тому +28

      Yeah the other issue is you pay but have the videos are just ads themselves. And then within the videos there's endless self-promotion, sponsored bits etc. so you're really only removing a fraction of the ads when you pay 13 bucks a month or whatever it is

    • @TooMuchMiddle
      @TooMuchMiddle 4 місяці тому +7

      Friggin' UA-cam Podcasts app was the same damned thing. I would think I was downloading my podcasts to my phone, and it would still buffer and stop when I'd lose connection.

    • @zealstarwind
      @zealstarwind 4 місяці тому +10

      fun fact, the PSP and PSvita had a means to get around an always online connection. You payed for their service and you could access your games anywhere on the go, the licenses were timed and sure you couldn't always just play the game, a simple connection to the store after the expiration timer (most games I owned were a year) would renew that licenses again so it can be used offline again. Steam does something similar with the steam deck as I've never had to connect online with it once I installed the game.

    • @SirStonjake
      @SirStonjake 4 місяці тому +13

      @@zealstarwind Funny you mention the Vita, as Louis' point about "giving of yourself and being treated worse" applies to that now as well. I recently picked one up for ~$70 on eBay and after installing homebrew, there's no need to renew licenses for downloaded games.

    • @Acetyl53
      @Acetyl53 4 місяці тому +4

      yt-dlp

  • @wootle
    @wootle 3 місяці тому +26

    "The more you give of yourself the s__tier you will be treated". 100% accurate, very glad I found your channel and respect to standing up to these behemoth companies. Subbed!

  • @youtubeshadowbannedmylasta2629
    @youtubeshadowbannedmylasta2629 4 місяці тому +320

    isn't that funny that youtube thinks they can control things not under their terms of service.
    reminds me of another evil that shan't be named here.

    • @jakehero95
      @jakehero95 4 місяці тому +28

      Lemme guess, it starts with A and rhymes with grapple.

    • @EzeePosseTV
      @EzeePosseTV 4 місяці тому +10

      Voldemort? lol

    • @user-io4sr7vg1v
      @user-io4sr7vg1v 4 місяці тому +4

      Goberment?

    • @alexj-t2331
      @alexj-t2331 4 місяці тому +3

      @@jakehero95as an artist there’s another company that starts with an A that comes to mind too

    • @abadenoughdude300
      @abadenoughdude300 4 місяці тому +3

      @@alexj-t2331 A company that DO BE like that, I take it.

  • @Pipiundkakiinpipikakaland42
    @Pipiundkakiinpipikakaland42 4 місяці тому +650

    Once I got an advertisement which was literally a 30-minute video from some belrussian general saying that my nation should be wiped out like cockroaches. Like… how are they THIS incompetent?!

  • @maxon1672
    @maxon1672 4 місяці тому +246

    You’re a legend, Louis, even Alphabet can’t bring you down.
    We Texans are proud to have you in Texas; feel free to tell youtube to “COME AND TAKE IT!”

    • @rossmanngroup
      @rossmanngroup  4 місяці тому +60

      Thank you!!!

    • @clray123
      @clray123 4 місяці тому

      Don't worry, if threats don't work, they will just bribe the fuck out of him. Maybe that's what he is secretly hoping for.

  • @tonymccosh5875
    @tonymccosh5875 18 днів тому +2

    Louis, really enjoy the content as a 62yr old Aussie. I too have had annoying AI responses from eBay and PayPal regarding an iPhone sold to me as new and 7 months later l discover it was actually a refurbished iPhone. ( A repairman confirmed the phone was refurbished). I asked my seller for a full refund and was refused saying it was not eBay policy and when l submitted complaints to eBay and PayPal the AI response was disappointing with no support even though I had fraudulently been sold a used phone. Enough of my troubles keep up the good work pushing back.

  • @HKlink
    @HKlink 4 місяці тому +136

    Funny how companies continue to not understand the Streisand effect. Without their letter I would not have learned of this nice tool you made!

    • @Window4503
      @Window4503 4 місяці тому +6

      Same! Definitely gonna check it out

    • @michaelblacktree
      @michaelblacktree 4 місяці тому +5

      Same here. Now I want to check it out.

    • @futuza
      @futuza 4 місяці тому +1

      Same, I'm very glad UA-cam brought this great tool to my attention.

    • @dankyjoker
      @dankyjoker 4 місяці тому

      Wonder if it's a socioeconomic issue.

    • @AarPlays
      @AarPlays 4 місяці тому

      Same

  • @yvnerservius1913
    @yvnerservius1913 4 місяці тому +1259

    I hate how controlling the world is

    • @DyslexicMitochondria
      @DyslexicMitochondria 4 місяці тому +230

      That's what happens when we allow a monopoly without any regulatory intervention

    • @trumpputinkim
      @trumpputinkim 4 місяці тому +7

      @@DyslexicMitochondria oh hi i love your content. Nice to see you here

    • @Listenimtooshyalright
      @Listenimtooshyalright 4 місяці тому +2

      @@DyslexicMitochondria what do you suggest we do

    • @flying_Night_slasher
      @flying_Night_slasher 4 місяці тому +41

      ​@@ListenimtooshyalrightDon't ask me for any help, all of my idea's are illegal

    • @s.c342
      @s.c342 4 місяці тому +60

      @@DyslexicMitochondriaif only you knew that the government is a monopoly of force/violence.

  • @mkurt90
    @mkurt90 4 місяці тому +58

    Please Louis, never stop, you're one of my personal heroes

  • @jer1776
    @jer1776 4 місяці тому +469

    I cant even remember the last time Google/UA-cam did something that wasnt scummy.

    • @0LoneTech
      @0LoneTech 4 місяці тому +21

      I think opening the VP8/VP9/VP10 codecs (from On2) publically and as basis for AV1 may count. As for the youtube platform itself, they certainly seem enthusiastic about drawing ire.

    • @SixTough
      @SixTough 4 місяці тому +12

      Google recently removed website caching

    • @GardenofEdens
      @GardenofEdens 4 місяці тому +3

      William osman got an award for an video like 3 or 5 years too late.
      It's really slow going there.....

    • @d-chudasama
      @d-chudasama 4 місяці тому +11

      Alot of the abverts on their site are scams

    • @kellysouter4381
      @kellysouter4381 4 місяці тому +15

      The previous CEO wasn't as bad as this one. I think this one's a WEF personnel.

  • @dinosaursnack
    @dinosaursnack 4 місяці тому +636

    I have nothing but respect for a man who draws a line in the sand and says, "No. I will no longer abide this madness"

    • @Adventist1997
      @Adventist1997 3 місяці тому +4

      That's the same way I feel about property tax. Even though we're basically renting our own land, the government will take it if we don't pay them. 😞

    • @Qrtuop
      @Qrtuop 3 місяці тому

      Property tax is fair if the wealth is redistributed to those who have less. Problem is, it doesn't.

  • @wimbeedoodle
    @wimbeedoodle 4 місяці тому +196

    After fighting with Google over a technical issue they had no idea how to solve for almost two years (still unsolved), I can't believe anyone at google/youtube has enough reading comprehension to manage a legal letter.

    • @Magikarp-4ever
      @Magikarp-4ever 4 місяці тому +20

      They don't it was written by a hired firm :p it's not native, they cant and never could

    • @vak2586
      @vak2586 4 місяці тому +5

      What's the tech issue?

    • @ZacharyJClark
      @ZacharyJClark 4 місяці тому

      ​@@vak2586I also want to know

    • @mynamemylastname7179
      @mynamemylastname7179 4 місяці тому +1

      That is why the hire 3rd party legal teams😂

    • @BoredPodcaster
      @BoredPodcaster 4 місяці тому

      The Legal Department of Google is the one thing they ensure works correctly, and without fault. Sadly their argument is complete nonsense, and they're incapable of understanding that.

  • @arbiter0110
    @arbiter0110 2 місяці тому +5

    Awesome video and great message! You're absolutely right! The more we give the less we receive and the world does it with a smile on their face. Very unfortunate!

  • @mr.grotto
    @mr.grotto 4 місяці тому +201

    Saying the algorithm has a personality disorder was giving UA-cam face. The fact that they had those 🎷 Bots for two years and a simple third party application could remove them, but their own algorithms couldnt, its a testimony of their commitment to the platform's community.

    • @SuperAgentAB
      @SuperAgentAB 4 місяці тому +4

      The community takes matters into its own hands as always.

    • @Operational117
      @Operational117 4 місяці тому

      @@SuperAgentAB
      And then UA-cam either permaban or shadowban these people with the potential of threatening legal repercussions because UA-cam's executives and managers think they're always in the right.

  • @skd
    @skd 4 місяці тому +159

    I have the same problem, people accusing me of deleting their comments and I never even seen them. Not in spam either, just gone. And the ones that are in spam, are something like "nice video, loved the premiere. See you on Monday!". I have to filter thru 300-500 comments every day, just to fish out those innocent comments from spam.

    • @shinyrayquaza9
      @shinyrayquaza9 4 місяці тому +20

      My comments have been getting shadow banned it seems recently, they'll show up in my post history but won't appear on the page, its awesome

    • @SkywalkerOne1977
      @SkywalkerOne1977 4 місяці тому +4

      @@shinyrayquaza9 Same

    • @abadenoughdude300
      @abadenoughdude300 4 місяці тому +17

      Nothing encourages engagement like the uncertainty if the essay you're writing about how the video you just watched has put you in a philosophical mood is going to be immediately deleted or not, let alone if anyone will read and relate to what you're writing.

    • @vellathewench
      @vellathewench 4 місяці тому +2

      @@shinyrayquaza9 I have also had this happening for the past few months.

    • @mrrooter601
      @mrrooter601 4 місяці тому +9

      @@shinyrayquaza9 yep, and you will get notified of replies to that thread too, but yours will be nowhere to be seen.

  • @perochialjoe
    @perochialjoe 4 місяці тому +232

    UA-cam incorrectly telling you you're doing something wrong then not reading your response? That's so unlike them 🤔

    • @futuza
      @futuza 4 місяці тому +13

      I can't believe Google would do something like this, it's totally out of character! /S

  • @lukevincent4141
    @lukevincent4141 3 місяці тому +20

    You are bang on on so many points. There is massive corporate authoritarian abuse happening at the moment and not enough people are standing up for consumers. I hope legislators get in touch and get your expert advice to pass legislation that returns our basic rights to us.

    • @markdsm-5157
      @markdsm-5157 3 місяці тому

      Won't happen, google's DEI and social policies gives them firm support from the left. As long as Google labels any criticism against these protected groups as hate speech they'll be allowed to do whatever they want.

    • @77.88.
      @77.88. 27 днів тому

      Follow The politicians money machine like (IN SIDER TRADING) that makes them millions???

  • @AgentLokVokun
    @AgentLokVokun 4 місяці тому +200

    "The more you give of your self the more sh!tty you will be treated"
    *And it cuts to an Amazon ad break* 😆

    • @EragonTheDragonRider
      @EragonTheDragonRider 4 місяці тому

      uBlock Origin / UA-cam Vanced my guy

    • @AgentLokVokun
      @AgentLokVokun 4 місяці тому

      @@rev.jimmywonko9615,
      @MiniDevilDF,
      @Luthiart, I will gladly suffer with some ads so Louis gets paid his 1/10th of a cent.

    • @dankyjoker
      @dankyjoker 4 місяці тому +5

      Why are you seeing ads? What are youtube ads? i Hear alot about those, but adblocker has been around for a while, right? Please install adblock, please. your time you spend in this heckhole will be so much better for you. Please, human, please.

    • @AgentLokVokun
      @AgentLokVokun 4 місяці тому

      @@dankyjoker I thought for awhile UBO was able to whitelist specific UA-cam channels -- I would like that feature very much? But honestly the moments it takes me to report fake ads/scams isn't that much of a hassle when I watch the same stupid ad for the 10th time.
      Plus if an ad pops up and I suddenly don't care about the content because of my microplastics riddled brain./ I close the tab.
      EZPZ

  • @TheDeceptiveHero
    @TheDeceptiveHero 4 місяці тому +184

    “We strive to keep UA-cam a safe, responsible community and to encourage respect for the rights of millions of UA-cam creators.”
    Damn, my keyboard didn’t survive that coffee shower.

    • @robertsmith2956
      @robertsmith2956 4 місяці тому +10

      I haven't seen one free palestine video removed, let alone the account deleted. but god help you you mention a bathroom towel......

    • @michaelblacktree
      @michaelblacktree 4 місяці тому +5

      English Translation: "We're concerned people will leave the platform, and we'll make less money."

  • @radiantxpdd
    @radiantxpdd 4 місяці тому +154

    I love how you made "I'll see you in my next video" sound like a threat directly aimed at UA-cam.

  • @rixxir
    @rixxir 4 місяці тому +57

    As a programmer and a fellow nerd - I respect you. It takes a great effort and courage to stand against titans.
    Good luck Louis!

    • @privacyvalued4134
      @privacyvalued4134 3 місяці тому

      Software developers hold the real power in the world. I've maintained for several years that Daylight Savings Time (DST) is one of the worst ideas anyone has ever come up with. DST can be eliminated by waiting for time to normalize, wait a month, and then quietly _delete_ DST handling code from all major OSes and libraries. When people go to change the time on their clocks, they'll discover that DST has been permanently deleted. Poof. No more DST. Changing times on clocks twice a year causes innumerable software failures...twice a year. DST is a plague on humanity but software developers can correct this problem.

  • @flamevell3258
    @flamevell3258 4 місяці тому +67

    1:04 I LOVE how they demand privacy and command him to delete any information gathered as if they are NOT the ones who do that TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE

    • @abadenoughdude300
      @abadenoughdude300 4 місяці тому +12

      "That's our data, we stole it first!"

    • @Stambo59
      @Stambo59 4 місяці тому +3

      Typical corporate "do as I say not as I do".

  • @mayanwiner
    @mayanwiner 4 місяці тому +55

    UA-cam sending their lawyers to try to threat competition is borderline criminal.

    • @Nereosis16
      @Nereosis16 4 місяці тому +1

      Except it's not illegal in the US.

    • @GigaBoost
      @GigaBoost 4 місяці тому +1

      No... It's business as usual. This is how all businesses operate

    • @sihamhamda47
      @sihamhamda47 3 місяці тому +1

      Google and YT is now turning into Nintendo 2.0. They literally doing the same thing as Nintendo does in removing any mods from their platform

    • @jiaan100
      @jiaan100 Місяць тому

      Criminal means "thing the rich don't want to happen", so it's not.

  • @MrPingn
    @MrPingn 4 місяці тому +64

    I don't often pay for apps.
    I payed for yours.
    Proudly and happily.
    Your fight is one worthy of support.

  • @lawrencecavens5760
    @lawrencecavens5760 2 місяці тому +15

    KEEP Being the Best you are Louis - We all Love you for what you do!

  • @paultomaszewski1964
    @paultomaszewski1964 4 місяці тому +162

    UA-cam is turning into an HOA Karen. You know, threatning you, fining you, telling you what to do but you're not in the HOA and have never been.

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 4 місяці тому

      I reported you for hate speech slur (karen). I think youtube will ban you too.

    • @Wheelieking619
      @Wheelieking619 4 місяці тому

      Ahh you r funny man/or woman ,your choice. Funny statement tho!

    • @Hrrrrrrrrrreng
      @Hrrrrrrrrrreng 4 місяці тому +2

      UA-cam has been deleting a lot of my comments for no reason. They’re genuinely atrocious. Can’t wait for something better to come along.

    • @Alfred-Neuman
      @Alfred-Neuman 4 місяці тому +3

      Yeah, Google (and UA-cam) was one of the rare mega-corporation that I respected in the past, for a few reasons... But in the last 5-10 years all that respect went completely down the drain. The censorship on UA-cam, especially in the comment section, is really out of control. Sometimes here now it just feels like if I was living in a dictatorship like China or Russia. That's not normal...
      A few years ago they started censoring anything that would look slightly like an insult between users, but now anything you write can be censored for absolutely no reason! I'm now regularly verifying my comments with a second account and probably between around 10% or 20% of my comments are not showing up to other people. (Depending on the subject and length of the comment.) I'm talking about comments that doesn't contain anything controversial, insults, urls or anything like that.
      I had hope this could change back to how it was 10 years ago but I know the odds for this to be happening are pretty much none. Knowing how the system works now, I'll have to be extremely lucky if I can post this without having to do a dozen of modifications... lol

  • @matthewtalbot-paine7977
    @matthewtalbot-paine7977 4 місяці тому +212

    Oh so even in the letters youtube sends they say you've violated our terms of service without providing any specifics lol.

    • @suparosc02
      @suparosc02 4 місяці тому +14

      They don't want to be specific, so they can get you from something completely different if you go to court, going like: oh, this? No, that letter was mistakenly written, we're getting you for this other thing instead...

    • @SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor
      @SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor 4 місяці тому

      I'm regularly banned on UA-cam for allegedly violating their harassment policy. The most harassing thing I have said is that UA-cam is liable for the harm caused by their pushing misinformation. My nephew died from sHLH after the jab, he was 22. My spouse had shingles, seizure and myocarditis after the jab. My daughter developed heart problems after the jab (now on beta blockers and being evaluated for POTS). My mother developed heart problems after the jab (now on beta blockers). My cousin developed heart problems after the jab. So I'm very interested in the misinformation UA-cam has pushed.

    • @BGTech1
      @BGTech1 4 місяці тому +5

      So they can have extra time to work up a few lies

    • @easttexan8168
      @easttexan8168 4 місяці тому +2

      You violated the terms of service by violating the terms of service. Clear as mud.

    • @dtvjho
      @dtvjho 4 місяці тому +2

      Good luck to YT if this goes to court. No judge is going to accept a blanket accusation letter on its face. At Discovery the opposition can subpoena YT for specifics.

  • @Blackhomeking12
    @Blackhomeking12 4 місяці тому +771

    Let me guess UA-cam is doubling down

    • @carlostrudo
      @carlostrudo 4 місяці тому +82

      I didn’t even start watching and I’m sure of this.

    • @Blackhomeking12
      @Blackhomeking12 4 місяці тому +87

      @@carlostrudoI ain’t even have to watch 30 seconds to know UA-cam is mad but doesn’t know how to fight it so they have to threaten legal action and hope they will stop

    • @user-sm9ho3kv3f
      @user-sm9ho3kv3f 4 місяці тому +21

      Yes, they have doubled the IQ in the room that responds to these letters and it's now fast approaching 100.

    • @pablostufff
      @pablostufff 4 місяці тому +4

      Lol isn't that what UA-cam's done for several years now?

    • @tevindublin7620
      @tevindublin7620 4 місяці тому

      You mean -100 ​@@user-sm9ho3kv3f

  • @jakke1975
    @jakke1975 3 місяці тому +15

    I can't add much to what's been said already ... I don't know you, you don't know me, but I love you man! Much respect!

  • @johnlucas6683
    @johnlucas6683 4 місяці тому +170

    The way I see it, the more we develop technology, especially for communication, the more corporations strive to slow down and hinder progress in exchange for profits.
    We are slowly going backwards because of corporate greed.

    • @Acuas
      @Acuas 4 місяці тому +4

      On certain fronts that's true, but it's also true that on others the contrary happens, AI is facing more backlash from the general population rather than from companies (or at least that's what I've seen so far).
      Everyone just cares more about themselves rather than general progress, sadly.

    • @mrrooter601
      @mrrooter601 4 місяці тому

      @@Acuas nah, corporations are getting EXACTLY what they want with AI. the public was primed to hate it, and given lots of talking points on why its SO HECKIN DANGEROUS and why its only safe to have neutered subscription service only AI where it is all easily controlled by a few companies.
      the manufactured outrage is being used to prevent free and open AI FOR ALL levelling the playing field. instead it will screw over everyone but the highest, and the artists and AI safety decriers will get thrown under the bus the second they stop being useful. so instead of EVERYONE having AI to create with, only a few will have unlimited access. its not 12d chess, there was always going to be some outrage as there is with anything c*ntroversial, its just matters what gets "signal boosted" to the masses, meanwhile the opposite view will never see the light of day.

    • @xaviermontalban717
      @xaviermontalban717 4 місяці тому +3

      Slowly?? We are basically stagnating, and the government doesn't help either

    • @xaviermontalban717
      @xaviermontalban717 4 місяці тому +2

      ​​@Acuas IA is not being used useful either. Every IA tool comes with a huge price, and it doesn't even do the thing you'd expect. Even chat GPT isn't very useful unless you pay for it. This shoulve been the thing that could propell society into the future, but again, it's being used for money

    • @Acuas
      @Acuas 4 місяці тому

      @@xaviermontalban717 But it needs to grow and be perfected before is trully usefull, and all tech is perfected because of money first, or war if we look back, so I don't see a problem there.

  • @WerewolfMaster
    @WerewolfMaster 4 місяці тому +383

    I confirm.
    Recently I was in a comment "battle" with some user and to my surprise - I couldn't answer his disrespectful misinformation, DESPITE my answer wasn't disrespectful and was based on a law.
    UA-cam blocked EVERY message I tried to send in response to that.

    • @LevelofClarity
      @LevelofClarity 4 місяці тому +6

      Is someone is reporting the comments as “harmful” and then UA-cam removed the comments?

    • @AngelFoxxoJP
      @AngelFoxxoJP 4 місяці тому +43

      @@LevelofClarity More likely that it has a single or couple of words that youtube for whatever reason feels is too 'hateful' or something in it. Or it has a url or something that looks like a url, such as trying to cite a US law site or a government site. There have been cases where I check to see my comment is removed within seconds of posting, consistently. Where I have to keep on guessing as to what part of my comment led to it's auto-removal from the comments section. Worse yet, it's always like a shadow removal. I look on my side, it's there. Refresh, it's there. Go into incognito, it's not there.

    • @WerewolfMaster
      @WerewolfMaster 4 місяці тому +32

      @@AngelFoxxoJP That's the point - it used to be the case in the past but now I spent half an hour to carefully avoid this possibility. It looks like Some YT's AI algorithm just blocked ANY responses to that person. It's different and more invasive than it was.

    • @WerewolfMaster
      @WerewolfMaster 4 місяці тому +2

      @@LevelofClarity Nothing there could've been possibly harmful in any way. In fact - that person's response was mockingly constructed.

    • @SirBladewind
      @SirBladewind 4 місяці тому +25

      ​​@@WerewolfMasterthis has happened to me too. I posted about censorship in china on a moistcritical video and it completely vanished all of my replies. I tried a dozen times finally using euphemisms and not referring to china directly. Didn't matter. Nothing i said appeared.

  • @ArbiterOfNY
    @ArbiterOfNY 4 місяці тому +105

    Please take UA-cam to court and mop the floor with them Ross. We need you!

  • @bellemorelock4924
    @bellemorelock4924 4 місяці тому +2

    2:00 Blackberry (the cat) is putting out the heaviest "pet me now" vibes. So funny, just keeps shifting around for it.

  • @Gin-toki
    @Gin-toki 4 місяці тому +204

    This world revolves around hard labor does not pay off but crime does.
    And streaming services have more or less forgotten that they only exist because they're marginally less annoying than pirating, and they're really pushing that border.

    • @SharienGaming
      @SharienGaming 4 місяці тому +4

      welcome to capitalism!

    • @SailorRalph
      @SailorRalph 4 місяці тому +6

      They pushed beyond that border already...
      To the high seas!!!

    • @alexello1189
      @alexello1189 4 місяці тому +7

      A 35$ firestick can be jailbroken in 15 minutes with a UA-cam guide. I have 3-4 in my house. Fuck subscription services

    • @dtvjho
      @dtvjho 4 місяці тому

      The problem is that streaming came to be owned and run by the same shenanigans that run cable TV, bringing all those detestable business practices with them: cutting backroom deals resulting in disappearing titles, treating customers as money to be pilfered (hiking prices), and (soon to come) booting customers off once the Chinese communist style social credit system is put in place. These are all signs of business chiefs being so out of touch with their customers that they're willing to attack them, and in many cases are doing so. It's not just social media doing this. Banks are doing it.

    • @adamdewolfe
      @adamdewolfe 4 місяці тому +2

      Only reason I ever made use of Netflix was the desire for higher bitrate video streaming.
      Now that they no longer offer 90% of the content I enjoy, and keep cancelling projects I would be interested in, I cancelled my sub.

  • @mSantsnj
    @mSantsnj 4 місяці тому +42

    I also HATE that. I was recently on a flight and had downloaded an audiobook (from Audible) and when I went to click it, it told me to connect to internet… LIKE WHAT???? I just-… ugh

    • @scrittle
      @scrittle 4 місяці тому +3

      Online .pdf(s) ftw

    • @jer1776
      @jer1776 4 місяці тому +7

      I got stuck in crazy traffic during the solar eclipse a few weeks ago, had no cell service because the towers were overwhelmed.. was so happy I copied some anime episodes to my laptop as I waited for the roads to clear. Ownership is ALWAYS best.

    • @mSantsnj
      @mSantsnj 4 місяці тому +1

      @@scrittle I need to do that!

    • @mSantsnj
      @mSantsnj 4 місяці тому

      @@jer1776 yup, I found a way to get the Netflix app on my MacBook (had to use Playcover) which was awesome because I always had to use my iPad to be on iOS (opposed to MacOS) so I was pumped I at least got to watch some movies.
      Still didn’t wanna have my 16” laptop on a tiny ass tray but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @shonins
      @shonins 4 місяці тому

      there are programs like InAudible that allow you to decrypt their proprietary files into mp3 or m4b. there are also a few communities like MAM that people upload said decryptions to, and also have a ton of the content that audible has since removed.

  • @0LoneTech
    @0LoneTech 4 місяці тому +25

    I once paid for UA-cam Premium. I was offered three features of interest: ad-free, family sharing, and pre-caching (misleadingly labelled downloads).
    *UA-cam kept showing me ads, claimed my mother wasn't my family, and removed the pre-caching feature.*
    For background, years before they offered premium, I had asked them for the option to buy the ad slots shown to me. They refused, and more than quadrupled the ads, apparently convinced they can't sell ad-free without first making their ads completely insufferable.

  • @phaedrus5904
    @phaedrus5904 4 місяці тому +8

    Although your solution doesn't address any problem that I have, I am fully in support of your approach, your principles, and your methods.
    ... and by the way love your cat.

  • @VideoGameStarChannelSupreme
    @VideoGameStarChannelSupreme 4 місяці тому +221

    This will be delicious evidence of anti-trust violations if UA-cam keeps this up.

    • @sigiligus
      @sigiligus 4 місяці тому

      Hahahahahaha you think the law is impartial and applied according to how it’s written hahahahahahaha! Big tech is an arm of the state, genius, there will never be any legal action taken against them so long as they continue to cooperate with glowies.

    • @glytchd
      @glytchd 4 місяці тому

      IEEE ,FTC, FCC. if anyone should have gotten pandemic money.. we need these groups succeeded 25yrs ago to protect the industry from what's Hattiesburg. But now the FCC has been infiltrated by the neo-progressives hellbent on taking away citizen ability to Communicate. Look up some of the latest laws

  • @Near2Future
    @Near2Future 4 місяці тому +164

    UA-cam Legal Team - Copy + Paste - throw money - make them waste money - win.

    • @someguy4252
      @someguy4252 4 місяці тому +4

      thats basicly how big corps opperate, they know they can bankrupt their opponet into settling. needs to be a fix to that kinda behavor but it likely wont happen unless its forced.

    • @clray123
      @clray123 4 місяці тому

      They will let Gemini handle the case.

  • @mrfashionguy1
    @mrfashionguy1 4 місяці тому +115

    God I hope this goes to court

    • @SarahGreen523
      @SarahGreen523 4 місяці тому +19

      I'd pay to watch that!

    • @Violent_Wolfen
      @Violent_Wolfen 4 місяці тому

      Same, and it goes to discovery so Google couldn't hide evidence or risk auto-losing.

    • @y2ksw1
      @y2ksw1 4 місяці тому

      Probably it's too cheap. They start trembling at a billion dollars.

    • @grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT
      @grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT 4 місяці тому

      actually if they do go to court, louis will probably lose since YT can just shill money to make the trial last indefinitly

    • @theripper121
      @theripper121 4 місяці тому

      I hate to say it but taking a case against Google would more than likely completely bankrupt Louis and anyone attached to him.

  • @ThaiXLe
    @ThaiXLe 17 днів тому +2

    3 mths and the channel is still here. Booyah!!!

  • @83j049733rfe4
    @83j049733rfe4 4 місяці тому +297

    Some 40 years ago, we celebrated the idea that state bureaucracy could be destroyed by those for-profit interests we believed could democratize the services provided by the state.
    Never did we stop to think, however, that state bureaucracy would only be replaced by the greater cruelty of corporate bureaucracy.

    • @georgesos
      @georgesos 4 місяці тому +43

      Some of us knew and were warning.
      Free markets were never the "hope for humanity" to escape dictatorships and oligarchies.
      We ve always known that.

    • @83j049733rfe4
      @83j049733rfe4 4 місяці тому +9

      @@georgesos Having, myself, been born in 86, I more or less entered this world inside the only water I've ever known... I wasn't given - because it's something you have to receive - awareness for any other kind of water beyond, seemingly, the one so overwhelmingly omnipresent that the idea there was any other would beyond even suspicion itself.
      So much of what I've suffered makes sense now, now that I can clearly recognize how poisoned this one river is.
      I have to envy some of you who came here from another time, another stream.

    • @YTKeepsDeletingAllMyComments
      @YTKeepsDeletingAllMyComments 4 місяці тому

      However there is plenty of people who see this corporate bureaucracy and still blame it on state bureaucracy.

    • @MrJerichoPumpkin
      @MrJerichoPumpkin 4 місяці тому +7

      a little bit more than 40 years ago, and it has always been a moronic idea. John Maynard Keynes did see it all in the '30s, warned the "free world" and look where we are, a couple of decades from living inside a cyberpunk novel.

    • @BeholderThe1st
      @BeholderThe1st 4 місяці тому +7

      The problem here is that the state shouldn't be doing this stuff, because they definitely can't do anything efficiently and are doomed to bureaucracy...but the state's job, which it fails to do, is to monitor and limit the abusive 'anti-free market' policies of monopolies and oligopolies. The job of government should not be to provide services that others can deliver, but to ensure the even playing field and prevent the most egregious of corporate business practices. Sadly, government can't even do that right.

  • @meeponinthbit3466
    @meeponinthbit3466 4 місяці тому +380

    Blackberry shows up, now you know UA-cam is about to be told to fuck themselves.

    • @khatdubell
      @khatdubell 4 місяці тому +13

      I noticed the cat was sitting on the rimm of the chair.

    • @elone3997
      @elone3997 4 місяці тому +5

      Haha! Yeah, Blackberry wanders in as if to say "Don't worry, I've got this bro' 😀

    • @jameslynch8738
      @jameslynch8738 4 місяці тому +1

      At 7:32, is a gut punch "the shittier you will be treated". 😤

  • @kockoklosharcheto
    @kockoklosharcheto 4 місяці тому +136

    Louis is a true revolutionary figure. Thank you for the resistance to oppression, exploitation and many similar sick practices that are being fed to the whole humanity. Keep it up, soldier.

    • @TheUnojoe2
      @TheUnojoe2 4 місяці тому +1

      Sounds to me like he’s closer to a general.

  • @brandongoeckner6602
    @brandongoeckner6602 4 місяці тому +2

    When you said in my personal life***, that hit hard. Loyalty and respect isn’t in our culture anymore.

  • @Ghost_of_93
    @Ghost_of_93 4 місяці тому +403

    i have a immense respect for you, the fact you are willing to go toe to toe with youtube/google AND get laws passed.. is just... wow, i wish that others follow your example.

    • @Terran.Marine.2
      @Terran.Marine.2 4 місяці тому +1

      The man has courage.

    • @phantomstarlight1366
      @phantomstarlight1366 4 місяці тому +5

      If there was, we wouldn't be heading full steam towards a dystopia.

    • @randomunavailable
      @randomunavailable 4 місяці тому +4

      That's because he can't be bought or silenced. He has income outside of their control and that makes them very angry. Good.

  • @thetatcritic4236
    @thetatcritic4236 4 місяці тому +76

    When theres no name to reference so theres a person to speak to, just the "youtube legal team" that just rings alarm bells

    • @erinmac4750
      @erinmac4750 4 місяці тому +3

      Still, the letter sounds very autogenerated, like they let the AI answer. I wonder if the lawyers know.....🐈‍⬛

    • @unkarsthug4429
      @unkarsthug4429 4 місяці тому +9

      ​@@erinmac4750That's just kind of how legalese sounds. It isn't written by an individual, but by the entire team, so it sounds controlled and generic.
      It's lawyers. They are ultra controlled in what they say, (and especially for something like this, you have to make absolutely sure it is legally enforceable to the highest extent you can)
      It's more that AI was trained off of documents like this than vice versa, due to that unnaturally controlled and careful wording.

    • @asarand
      @asarand 4 місяці тому +1

      The truth is, if it was necessary to file a lawsuit you could still file a lawsuit naming the UA-cam legal team as the defendant.

  • @MikeVideos327
    @MikeVideos327 4 місяці тому +65

    Its weird watching someone for over 10 years.
    When I found you I was confused and was trying to survive by offering my repair skills to friends.
    10 years later, im a husband, a father, and have an advanced career in finance.
    I think about your life advice frequently. I wish you all the best.
    You are a rare one. We need more people that stand by their principles.

  • @HeyV63
    @HeyV63 2 місяці тому +3

    Grayjay installed. Thanks 👍
    Be well, be you, keep fighting.
    This world needs much more people like you!

  • @jayl5032
    @jayl5032 4 місяці тому +52

    Ive been shadow banned on the comments so many times. Some were dicey, I'll admit, but some were completely benign. I would go: "Where the hell is my comment? I just oosted it like 10 mins, and now it's gone in the reply chain."
    I'm sick of garbage arbitrary censorship, and wishywashy "terms of service."

    • @ETXAlienRobot201
      @ETXAlienRobot201 4 місяці тому +16

      same here.... it especially comes-up during anything remotely social/political in nature. surely not coincidence, right?

    • @VashStarwind
      @VashStarwind 4 місяці тому +13

      Same. Its really random too, like almost no pattern to it.

    • @jayl5032
      @jayl5032 4 місяці тому +3

      @@ETXAlienRobot201 Oh most definitely. It's tiring.

    • @LocalSlasher
      @LocalSlasher 4 місяці тому

      ​@@VashStarwindSome people seem to get away with mentioning the app that shall not be named just fine. I could talk about FF browser & alternatives or add-ons for it, and it was deleted. I mouth off on comment bots or warn people about them in detail, poof.

    • @LatitudeSky
      @LatitudeSky 4 місяці тому +1

      I make comments and never look back. Whether here or on Reddit or wherever. If someone replies, I get the notification but I never look at them. I literally do not care what anyone may think about what I posted. Whatever I posted was already my final word on it and I never look back. By not caring whatsoever what anyone thinks, I feel like I have reached a zen state of just existing as I please. It's relaxing.

  • @MrTomoshibi
    @MrTomoshibi 4 місяці тому +46

    I love the app and the response because it directly calls out UA-cam's BS claim about caring about content creators

    • @zealstarwind
      @zealstarwind 4 місяці тому +6

      They only care about their content creators for how much money they bring them, if you're a big enough channel or personality you can easily crush their bottom line because if one platform bans you, you can find another and literally bring over millions. Its already happened with tons of creators all across platforms. Also they find nothing wrong with you breaking terms of service if you're that large until either the government or mass complaints are involved that could hurt their bottom line.

  • @atbauchat
    @atbauchat 4 місяці тому +130

    This video has cemeted this man as a legend in my mind. I stand with you, I refuse to pay for a dis-service. Especially when old features become pay walled.

  • @kurtcrean
    @kurtcrean 4 місяці тому +148

    UA-cam just hovering over the delete button deciding whether the absolute shitstorm would be worth it.
    Thanks for fighting the good fight, you've done so much good!

    • @Luthiart
      @Luthiart 4 місяці тому +10

      What shit storm?? What are you going to do if YT deletes this channel? Write them a harsh email? Even if YT had an address for you to send it to, I guarantee you zero fucks will be given.

    • @walrider
      @walrider 4 місяці тому +17

      ​​The shitstorm would be coming from Louis and Futo. Louis has a lot of experience in terms of fighting for rights in front of a judge. As he said in the video he had laws passed in a few years fighting with lobbys, big corpos and politicians and will probably have fun fighting with UA-cam. ​
      @@Luthiart

    • @matttran7161
      @matttran7161 4 місяці тому +3

      Bro, what shitstorm? A 2 million sub channel is a rounding error to them, especially if all it does is annoy them. It'll hurt as much and as briefly as me slapping a mosquito that's sucking my blood.

    • @alexanderlandislav6864
      @alexanderlandislav6864 4 місяці тому +13

      @@matttran7161 Doesnt matter, point is if he sues them and wins, that's extremely damaging in the sense that it opens up other creators to have easy and established precedent for challenging youtube's vague terms of service. The law does not care about how many subs someone has, it cares about whether or not there was a true violation of user's described rights when using a service.

    • @matttran7161
      @matttran7161 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@alexanderlandislav6864 that is the biggest, most naive "if"... Like, what right? This is a private entity that's entitled to show any users the door. I don't think creators are employees and therefore entitled to any of those protections. By all means, follow through with the $500K retainer though, it's always worth the try. But I'm not seeing it.

  • @codystrong3302
    @codystrong3302 4 місяці тому +58

    Give em' fuckin hell mr. Rossmann! Never surrender! Never submit!!

  • @alicevioleta3184
    @alicevioleta3184 4 місяці тому +49

    if a massive company is trying to bully you, you're doing something right. i'll always respect you and your work, Louis. thank you for all that you do.

  • @KynaruHelio
    @KynaruHelio 4 місяці тому +38

    your consistancy is your trademark. years of watching you, you've been nothing but honest, respectful, and honestly, still entertaining. that's quite a feat.

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus 4 місяці тому +341

    UA-cam is about to fuck around and find out that you don't want Louis to enter into his villain arch. 😂

    • @KarolHaltenberger
      @KarolHaltenberger 4 місяці тому +66

      Large armchair - check
      Cat under left hand - check

    • @JoRoBoYo
      @JoRoBoYo 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@KarolHaltenbergerwait.. 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @handlemonium
      @handlemonium 4 місяці тому

      3 anti-establishment companies and lobbying organizations: *check* ✔️

    • @KalonOrdona2
      @KalonOrdona2 4 місяці тому +3

      Arc*
      though there's really no reason you couldn't say arch or bend or curve or trajectory or journey or whatever :p

    • @ihatesnickersTSD
      @ihatesnickersTSD 4 місяці тому

      I guarantee you this money loving goblin you idolize will drop his app the second any of her personal wealth is threatened

  • @dennispilat
    @dennispilat 4 місяці тому +127

    Louis, I 100% agree with you on "Worse treatment when paying". It's ridiculous these days. Thanks for speaking up about it!

  • @Redsmeg68
    @Redsmeg68 2 місяці тому +1

    The problem is control, they want control over everything and you are resisting that which puts a target on your back.

  • @brimstonesulfur5013
    @brimstonesulfur5013 4 місяці тому +39

    Just so you know this channel has been very eye opening to how big tech is taking are freedom of speech and information. Thank you

  • @SpaceTech54
    @SpaceTech54 4 місяці тому +36

    Thank You Louis! You are tops - Reminder - UA-cam Takes 30% of this Super Thanks $$$ for the fun of it.

  • @michaelcopple1736
    @michaelcopple1736 4 місяці тому +68

    Blackberry is 100% on board with Grayjay, Louis. A loyal cat for sure.
    Grayjay is a really good develop and a great way to support your favorite creators.

  • @Nuggery
    @Nuggery 4 місяці тому +6

    Thank you for being a voice of reason. Many of us can’t articulate issues and concerns as well as you. From my perspective, you’re a power of GOOD. Thank you for caring and your ability to explain these concepts.

  • @MyGSunny
    @MyGSunny 4 місяці тому +63

    Please do a comparison between yt lawyers and NYC tax dept! You’re the only one who can!

    • @erinmac4750
      @erinmac4750 4 місяці тому

      That would be a colorful rant!

  • @parrotsticks
    @parrotsticks 4 місяці тому +30

    I love how the cat sees an angry rant is starting up, and immediately hops onto the chair to enjoy the extra rocking motion

    • @ocstrangeness
      @ocstrangeness 4 місяці тому +1

      The more people (and companies) I meet, the more I like animals.

    • @WindTurbineSyndrome
      @WindTurbineSyndrome 4 місяці тому +1

      Kitty loves his daddy he is waiting til Louis uses his keyboard so he can walk on it.

  • @reznovvazileski3193
    @reznovvazileski3193 4 місяці тому +76

    Please youtube fight this... Nothing against you Louis, just rooting for the bullies run into the wrong guy for a change. Once a courtroom openly states that what your app is doing is okay, far more players will grow the balls to follow suit and take the power out of the hands of Googleschmirtz Evil Incorporated.

    • @uzlonewolf
      @uzlonewolf 4 місяці тому +10

      Sadly we'll never get a court to rule that the app is okay as the case will suddenly be dropped the moment things look like they are headed in that direction.

    • @aetheralmeowstic2392
      @aetheralmeowstic2392 4 місяці тому +21

      ​@@uzlonewolfThat's when he countersues Google to basically force a judgement

    • @shirothefish9688
      @shirothefish9688 4 місяці тому

      @@aetheralmeowstic2392 that's when they stall it out 15 years to bankrupt louis before a result can be obtained.

    • @ETXAlienRobot201
      @ETXAlienRobot201 4 місяці тому

      @@aetheralmeowstic2392 my guess is their next play is do what reddit and twitter have done. i'm amazed they haven't, already...

    • @jeremydale4548
      @jeremydale4548 4 місяці тому +1

      I love that. I sung that in the jingle tune

  • @Xfacter
    @Xfacter 3 місяці тому +4

    This is the first time hearing about your project and I am very glad someone is doing that! Thank you!

  • @JH-pt6ih
    @JH-pt6ih 4 місяці тому +20

    I don't really see much of difference between Grayjay connecting content creators and Google News connecting newspapers. I also remember that Google argued it was better for everybody when newspapers complained - yet Grayjay isn't better for everybody. Hmmm.

    • @GrumpyDerg
      @GrumpyDerg 4 місяці тому +5

      It's only better for everybody when Google is in control

  • @FARBerserker
    @FARBerserker 4 місяці тому +99

    If buying is not owning, then piracy is not stealing.

    • @lordhughmungus
      @lordhughmungus 4 місяці тому +10

      Stop saying this. Piracy is not theft, period. Don't qualify it or you fall into their trap.

    • @mrrooter601
      @mrrooter601 4 місяці тому +10

      @@lordhughmungus yep. infact, stop calling it piracy altogether. its content sharing. there is no "stealing" involved, only "unlicensed data transfer".

    • @scrittle
      @scrittle 4 місяці тому +2

      Piracy is inheritantly the distribution of previously paid goods. You're more than right to criticise the stance piracy reduces potential revenue for those who wouldn't pay for services regardless, but piracy is directly tied to theft. Borrowing a friend's CD isn't the same as burning 100 CDs and distributing them to everyone you know.

    • @Darin.Pearson
      @Darin.Pearson 4 місяці тому +2

      I hate you for making me do this. Your argument contains a fallacy. They aren't selling ownership. They are selling access. If you fail to return a car you rented, that is stealing (piracy).

  • @ClintTheriault
    @ClintTheriault 4 місяці тому +60

    I bought a GrayJay licence. It's good stuff, keep up the good work. We're all cheering for you.

    • @TheAechBomb
      @TheAechBomb 4 місяці тому +2

      there are licenses? what have I missed on the grayjay side of things?

    • @latergator9622
      @latergator9622 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@TheAechBombI think he just means he paid for the service, but like Louis said the free trial period is indefinite.

    • @mrrooter601
      @mrrooter601 4 місяці тому +8

      woah it actually let you post the name of the app? I was getting shadowbanned for mentioning it anywhere else on this sh*th hoel

    • @jacqdanieles
      @jacqdanieles 4 місяці тому

      ​@@mrrooter601the random shadow bans are really p***ing me off