When I first hit the red and into the purple ranks a while back I've notice a huge increase of Feng players. He's really strong and I kinda always wondered why people didn't speak more highly of him. Kenpo can be soooo fucking obnoxious.
It's funny because one year ago every video remotely talking about Feng had people commenting that the character was being slept on. And then suddenly he starts appearing on some tier lists and everybody is shocked Pikachu...
What makes Feng Wei strong: 1. Great evasive attacks / Kenpo stance 2. Good Launchers 3. Good combo damage 4. Great poking (either safe from most launchers or long range, spammable, and unseeable) 5. Very safe 6. Great lows 7. Great range 8. Great panic buttons 9. Buff Marduk 10. Lots of gimmicks
He doesnt have good launchers, and his combo damage only works at specific wall ranges, which is hard to manage because he has limited wall carry. He’s also a lot less safe than you think. His turn stealing moves require commitment.
ive mained feng since tekken 5 and rn im a Fujin rank with him. I was always confused and dissapointed at people considering him B tier or mid all the time. He has always been great with amazing evasion and pokes.
I've been maining Feng since T5 too, for me Feng IS tekken. I don't mind people thinking he is bad/mediocre at all tbh. The less people play him, the less people are familiar with the MU and we dodge nerfs. Thankfully, Feng is still popular enough to receive attention and be a roster staple.
@@KroVey yes that's whay I was getting it. Now he's getting attention but not in a good way, he's always been good but ppl will bitcha and get him needed
Feng was always pretty damn good. His back sway is a great mechanic he has, not too many characters can reliably punish or reach him when he does his back sway.
I have started playing Feng a few weeks ago, and I'd say it's been incredibly fun. Great character overall, not to mention he has the best looking moves in the game, and is just that cool in general.
I bought the game this June as my first Tekken game, and Feng was the second character I ever played because of how amazing his style is. I'm so glad people are starting to see how good his tools are, because that means he is more likely to be in Tekken 8 :)
At this rate, pretty much much every character is going to be in every game, you don't have anything to worry about... Now if we could move to making this character less busted...
There's no hidden about it. He was already pretty good and could really force you to change the way you play. He's now one of the most buffed characters in S4 and the last patch. The auto block on back Kenpo actually used to last longer before they nerfed it in S2. I remember some of the moronic complaints about that nerf at the time. His ranged heavy punishment is still terrible though and his WS launcher is a bit wonky and will just miss sometimes.
Lmao, there were people saying that guard patched ruined Feng. He went from top tier to mid-tier because of that patch. That's how braindead kenpo users were back in the day
What exactly is "ranged heavy" punishment? Long range punishing tools that are consistent and powerful? Most characters don't have those. And if that's your top complaint, I think it's safe to say the character is still pretty damn good
@@painandpyro I mean when there's even a little bit of pushback on a move that's -15/16 and up Feng can't launch. His next best option is only a pathetic 35 damage. A couple of examples would be Paul's d1+2 which is -15 or Law's -17 powercrush. There'll be many other situations where other characters could at least launch at -16 with pushback where he can't or have something better than 35 damage.
@@atuls55 hate to be that guy but Paul’s shoulder is -16. So I guess that’s one more frame. But no one ever launches me for it, EVER. It’s too fast for what it does 🤷🏻♂️
Literally Feng is one of the only characters I have to change my entire game plan just to account for the fact that any time I'm plus, he can still launch me. Makes me afraid to even press a button and sometimes ruins the experience when all the rules of tekken get tossed out the window.
All the rules of tekken? Lmfao calm down and learn the match-up fam, Feng has the worst hop kicks in the game and he is incredibly weak to sidestepping. The way you talk makes me think you are a green rank button masher honestly.
@@KroVey I'm a blue rank with about 8+ different characters.(sounds made up but I literally only play 2 games total lol) Part of the reason I'm not higher is because I don't commit to one character and forget how to play my other characters and have to relearn them each time decide to further them in ranked. I've played tons of fengs. I play as Roxashadow on Xbox. Dont believe me? Look me up. I make tons of clips on my profile showing my ranks ups if u happen to own an Xbox one.
@@amosjohnson6348 I play on pc sorry, I don't own an xbox. Anyways, we all have our tough match ups. For example, I consistently get griefed by Kunis. I feel like Feng is balanced because he has some important weaknesses, despite his upsides. He is very weak to sidesteps. A lot of his key pokes are lows, if you keep that in mind, you can shut down a lot of stuff.
When a game has a lot of characters, some are not popular. To improve the pick rate the company buffs it, but because of the roster/meta/players people dont see it as strong, so it keeps being buffed and unused in the background until somone discovers him and omg he is busted.
I've never understood this issue. Obviously all of the characters can't be popular. If they actually expect every character to be used the same amount, every character would have around a 2% usage rate... I think it's perfectly fine to have some characters that heavily used, and some that are rarely used. Played a lesser used character can actuality be part of the fun
@@myboy_ D2 looks like a mid, messed me so bad when I went against one Feng player, thought that shit was unblockable or something, my dumbass honestly couldn't figure it out. Looked at his movelist and went "oh."
When he was introduced in T5, I started liking Feng just based on his fight style and animations. Even if it took until T7, Im glad that people started seeing how great he is and how well he does now in tournaments
@@watcheverything99 no. Is tekken 5 (pre DR) feng was extremely powerful. Steve was undisputed #1, but devil jin, feng, nina and Bryan were right behind him. TMM made a video on feng in tekken 5, check it out
Just want to ask, does people talk about Law lately? Even with his nerfs(which he didn't really need in my opinion) he is still quite strong. Now many players play him by the looks of it though.
Same 3 bar jokes, dislikeing and overestimation. Main pro Law players switch to other characters. Nerfs hit him hard and buffs are 50/50 in terms of goodness. No new RD because «3+4,4 is his rage drive» - King Jae. That's basically it
@@josephyoun8480 Same my friend. It won't stop me from getting Emperor with him (got Yaksa today). Good luck in mastering him and game in general. Take care
Feng is super good. It was pretty funny seeing him go from mid-tier in everyone's tierlists to being busted as soon as his combo damage buff dropped Edit: and iirc he only dropped to mid tier when they made kenpo's block later
Feng Wei was one of the characters i've always used ever since I started playing from t5 onwards. I always felt like he had EVERYTHING. Why does it seem like he was slept on?
Keep in mind all of this is kept in check by a few things: his has ABYSMALL range on most of his stuff, that also needs clean hits(anything with range is punishable as fuck), he needs to use pretty much all of his moveset to be effective and is VERY stepable(thats why he has b4, which is just a sidestep check, not a counter). Like kaiper said, one backdash into sidestep is the biggest cockblock to any feng. That being said, he is strong and FUN AS FUCK to both play and watch, so i wouldnt mind him being top 1 even(imo he is at least top15).
sometimes some say that Feng's combo damage is low but that's not entirely true. With some launchers like his F3,4 or his [2 ~ 1], 2 we can easily make combos between 77 and 79 dmg, with his qcf1 in counter hit 70 dmg, and his FF3 in counter hit 83 of dmg and the all without walls. In fact it really depends on the launcher used 😉
@TheMainManSwe and others. If i would do a video with my Heihachi sometimes. Would someone want to comment sometimes. I am going too do some mainman advice.
I main Feng, just love his style and it's not someone you go up against every other match. Looking to expand my horizons but for now I have made it to the greens and am loving playing with him. Been playing Tekken since the very first one, and never had a "main" was just "ok" with everybody, and having one go-to character has made the game that much more enjoyable.
Thanks for the vid, i really like this character since T5 both gameplay and design wise. Too bad i feel myself hopeless at learning Feng's arguably best advantage - evasiveness. Thats why i usually play Shaheen/Fahkumram/Gigas, but still enjoy watching videos about this cool kempo master!
Also, in online, and in a few pressure situations offline, db+3 is indeed launch punishable, but its gotta be perfect reaction, cuz it's exactly-15. You don't get much leeway to react, especially considering it's a fast low.
I've been saying for a long time that Feng could be a KILLER pocket character for pros. People aren't really labbing Feng like that and he can absolutely run wild if you don't know how to fight him.
Hello, I haven't played Tekken in YEARS, I'm talking since Tekken 3. I've been binge watching TMMSWE lately and I've noticed something. You guys know how in basketball, coaches shorten their rotation and only play 7 or 8 players instead of 12 in the playoffs? I'm finding pro players only use 10-15 moves out of a character's given move set. I watched TMMSWE's recent ranked online play with Dragunov, and he is using the same 7 or 8 moves for Dragunov. Is this intentional/meta? Do pro completely disregard moves deemed to be unsafe, negative or low percentage and only use 25% of the move set or less? Same with Kazuya. EWGF over and over and over like he doesn't have any other moves...
Yeah, some moves are only used in combos, at the wall, as punishers etc based on their properties. Some moves just have too bad frames/range/utility to be used in the neutral (when both players are facing each other in poke wars :D).
Usually characters have around 50-150 moves and most of the time the majority of them around really worth using and even more of them aren’t really competitive against very strong opponents. For example, snake edge moves are usable in some circumstances against players who can’t react to them, but against good players you will just get launched. There are a lot of moves like that and it’s a good thing they exist because they add more layers to the game/character. High level players like tmm however only really use moves that work at their level and for most characters there are a lot of moves that aren’t really viable or worth using, except for very specific situations/matchups or when you’re trying to surprise your opponent.
@@tomassmits581 Interesting. Lots of the upper tier and high usage characters (Mishimas) are so optimized that I imagine alot of players have similar playstyles. I'll probably pick this game up next year but I'll probably main Yoshi and Bryan. I love how expressive a player can be with Yoshi's his unorthodox moveset. From my understanding, his normals are pretty weak but he has some of the most diverse options and situational moves and unblockables in the game which inspire creativity.
@@Transfixion yeah if u want to be able to use many different moves, i would say yoshimitsu is perfect for you. He doesn’t have the best ‘conventional’ moves but the fact that he has so many options makes him unpredictable and that’s where his strength comes from.
I think the new df4, 3 string does wonders to his wall and pressure game, also giving you more distance control and oppotunities for combos all around. In tandem with the db3 CH and sabaki parry buffs, Feng has become very strong indeed. Still, he is complicated to use effectively since his moves are very situational and require you to integrate his toolbox creatively, a bit like Lei in that regard. He has clear weaknesses, particularly relative to some DLC characters that are just OP. I'd say he is right outside of the top-ten: Akuma, Fakhumram, Lidia, Julia, Zafina, Geese, Leroy, Marduk, Steve, and Devil Jin are all above him imo. He is right there with the next echelon: Paul, Kazuya, Bryan, Master Raven, Alisa, and maybe Bob are around the same level as Feng. I personally think Eliza is very underrated as well, but I know I am in a minority position there (what Abel del Maestro and Arslan have shown with her is scary). But yeah, when you see what specialists can do with Feng it is a thing of beauty: Hao, DreadPrince, Titan Thor...
the block in the kimpo needs 19f to start like if you did a faster move and feng did kimpo he won’t be able to block , he can block after 19f while doing kimpo
Been maining him since S1. He wasn't always that good until S4, we Feng mains endured alot of cheese throughout the first 3 seasons. Now he is finally Viable but not top 10.
Coincidentally or not, but couple of days ago I got owned as a Byron by Feng by 40-2 at Genbu rank. Those lows and parries penetrated my Byron's ghoulish body most of the time and being a cyborg didn't help xD Couple of hours of frustration got me uninstall T7 soon thereafter. For now fun is depleted, but I'll probably retry another month.
Reminds me of the day's when everyone thought Dragonov was top 1 after JDCR picked him. Feng was always a strong character but I don't see him in top 10.
i feel like when you demonstrate something difficult, and you hit it, you don’t need to demonstrate it again (if its gonna take 3-5 tries). its youtube, we can rewind if we want to see it, just talk about once you hit and if we want to see it again we’ll press left on our keyboard. love the vids
Never knew why people wrote him off dude is hellah strong. Was wondering why people don’t mention him. Having all that evasion is an issue. Having db3 on counter setting u up for a 50/50 is an issue. It’s -15 but hellah good. Played so many primes using feng and it’s online so how do I deal with the 50/50 if u can’t block properly lol. Back to square one dude is hellah good
Kenpo has already been touch lol, now you have to space properly to not get hit if you do it at wrong distance. It use to be really good to get out of danger and characters mix ups. I would get hate mail from players saying I use that move to much before the nerf.
I agree Feng wei has always been a strong char imo... The evasion the toolset his wall game and mixups etc. Only thing that was holding him back in previous seasons was his poor combo tools and specifically conversion flexibility (db 1 4 recovered like sh*t !!!) Which made his no wall combos somewhat weak compared to the rest of the cast. This has been directly addressed TWICE through updates with a new servicable screw attack and new float combo ender/wall ender Oh yes and directed damage buffs to his key combo moves also helps :)
So funny but Feng was a character no one played. Now he's buffed and he's top 10. Even MainMan made a video once with the title "for you and the 3 other Feng mains" or something along those lines.
Feng doesn't need any nerfs in my opinion, he's fine the way he is. Top tier but not broken. I find it funny how we only started to realize how strong he was once people like knee and arslan pointed it out.
I remember commenting on a TMM video a while ago taking about how crazy good this character is, and multiple people actually had the audacity to strongly disagree and say he wasn't... Feng has multiple moves that are so busted they almost seem like accidents 😄Qcf1 being unlowparryable and only -14, (meaning as a Zafi player, the most i get is an incredible wr4 punish everytime) in addition to uf2 being effectively safe and having complimentary tracking to some of his other moves alone already take the cake for me
Just finished watching this video. Hopped on as Devil Jin and my first matchup is Feng. Gave him a fresh hot No Round Brown and he declined to rematch lol.
Yea i also tell people like all the time how good Feng probably is. The most weird part is that people say his punishment is somewhat lackluster until i tell them he can launch most safe strings which hab a punch in it. He can 1+2 sabaki Heihachis second hit of his RD for example because its a punch and launch him for that. So as Hei you are actually never allowed to do a RD in Neutral. You must be aware of a lot of things when fighting Feng, especially never retaliate with a punch. I also wonder why people always think that Feng got OP in S4. Feng always had those tools and was always evasive AF. Db3 becoming a counterhit move in S4 is less of a deal than his increased damage and was always good anyways (he didn't need that CH property on db3 though). Overall he became better, yes, but not overwhelmingly changed throughout T7. BUT as a Feng main i wish for some moves to get a tune down. I really dislike the CH on db3 because it acutally kills momentum. It just gives you additional damage, which isn't really needed. Against experienced players Feng starts to struggle when trying to BS too much because you get stepped pretty easy. Most of his chunky moves are very linear and have bad recovery, so you gonna stick with db3 and df1 a lot which will make you very predictable.
His normal block punishment is pretty decent but his ws punishment is pretty bad tbh. I don’t think he’s changed too much, just people forgot how good his moves were due to lack of players. He still has his awkward weakness of needing to be close to get things going while having his strength of having a shit ton of evasion.
If Feng had his T5 pimp suit, he'd be god tier
I miss that costume!
Bruh, I second this. Harada needs to bring back the triad suit.
I don't custom any of my characters but I had to download a mod for that suit cause It's too gud
That kind of drip is just too good
the closest you can get is bearded man's suit in red
I Guess mainman still has PTSD from that Time where a feng player made him cry blood
Unbalanced bs gives us all PTSD
Why does everyone have anime pics?
@@strafniki1080 why do people watch tekken? its fun
I've been saying for months that Feng is incredibly good dude, people never listened to me. Even as a Geese main I acknowledge that he's incredible
Feng is good if you master the basics of the game.
@@daocean1103 Feng VS Steve must be one of the most retarded match ups in the game
@@wildman7220 how so? Who is it a bad matchup for?
Feng is godlike i just don't have the patience to learn him
@@Lockeabout Feel like it'd be fairly even both have strong pokes and evasive tools feel like the match up would come down to movement and range
When I first hit the red and into the purple ranks a while back I've notice a huge increase of Feng players. He's really strong and I kinda always wondered why people didn't speak more highly of him. Kenpo can be soooo fucking obnoxious.
Shhh the feng mains are keeping quiet on purpose.
Shhh
Reason why he had auto-block on Kenpo:
1. Feng is Harada's main.
That's it.
Literally
To be fair they nerfed its startup frames pretty badly in season 2
@@odst72397 Fair point.
It's funny because one year ago every video remotely talking about Feng had people commenting that the character was being slept on. And then suddenly he starts appearing on some tier lists and everybody is shocked Pikachu...
It’s great to have you back, really missed the content 🙌🏼
My Christmas gift from TMM has come early with a Feng Wei video!
feng is the type of character to make you doubt anything your character has
i always considered him a high tier character atleast
The true top player is your MIND!! Only by training your mind and being fully aware you can master any character
What makes Feng Wei strong:
1. Great evasive attacks / Kenpo stance
2. Good Launchers
3. Good combo damage
4. Great poking (either safe from most launchers or long range, spammable, and unseeable)
5. Very safe
6. Great lows
7. Great range
8. Great panic buttons
9. Buff Marduk
10. Lots of gimmicks
@@Devogor thats ten.
I dont agree with 9. Lmao
He doesnt have good launchers, and his combo damage only works at specific wall ranges, which is hard to manage because he has limited wall carry.
He’s also a lot less safe than you think. His turn stealing moves require commitment.
To balance out the other end, Iron Wall (shoulder) singlehandedly makes his whiff punish one of the best. Its got stupid good range, comes out i13.
Yeah buff Marduk kappa
No, please don't talk about Feng, people are going to start using him a lot now and call me a tierwhore!
Yeah I feel the same way, feng is just fun though
ive mained feng since tekken 5 and rn im a Fujin rank with him. I was always confused and dissapointed at people considering him B tier or mid all the time. He has always been great with amazing evasion and pokes.
I've been maining Feng since T5 too, for me Feng IS tekken. I don't mind people thinking he is bad/mediocre at all tbh. The less people play him, the less people are familiar with the MU and we dodge nerfs. Thankfully, Feng is still popular enough to receive attention and be a roster staple.
@@KroVey yes that's whay I was getting it. Now he's getting attention but not in a good way, he's always been good but ppl will bitcha and get him needed
@@KroVey nerfed*
Feng was always pretty damn good. His back sway is a great mechanic he has, not too many characters can reliably punish or reach him when he does his back sway.
I have started playing Feng a few weeks ago, and I'd say it's been incredibly fun. Great character overall, not to mention he has the best looking moves in the game, and is just that cool in general.
Big + from me, one of the best characters in series in my opinion
I bought the game this June as my first Tekken game, and Feng was the second character I ever played because of how amazing his style is. I'm so glad people are starting to see how good his tools are, because that means he is more likely to be in Tekken 8 :)
Oh he's def in Tekken 8. Kind of a staple character like Bryan and dragonuv
It's harada's favorite character so definitely gonna be in the next game
At this rate, pretty much much every character is going to be in every game, you don't have anything to worry about... Now if we could move to making this character less busted...
His lows are really good but mids are very stumpy or slow imo
Slow but powerful
Exactly
His 18 f mid is close distance and very linear
There's no hidden about it. He was already pretty good and could really force you to change the way you play. He's now one of the most buffed characters in S4 and the last patch. The auto block on back Kenpo actually used to last longer before they nerfed it in S2. I remember some of the moronic complaints about that nerf at the time. His ranged heavy punishment is still terrible though and his WS launcher is a bit wonky and will just miss sometimes.
Lmao, there were people saying that guard patched ruined Feng. He went from top tier to mid-tier because of that patch.
That's how braindead kenpo users were back in the day
What exactly is "ranged heavy" punishment? Long range punishing tools that are consistent and powerful? Most characters don't have those. And if that's your top complaint, I think it's safe to say the character is still pretty damn good
@@painandpyro I mean when there's even a little bit of pushback on a move that's -15/16 and up Feng can't launch. His next best option is only a pathetic 35 damage. A couple of examples would be Paul's d1+2 which is -15 or Law's -17 powercrush. There'll be many other situations where other characters could at least launch at -16 with pushback where he can't or have something better than 35 damage.
@@atuls55 hate to be that guy but Paul’s shoulder is -16. So I guess that’s one more frame. But no one ever launches me for it, EVER. It’s too fast for what it does 🤷🏻♂️
@@megadethfist I always try to launch it or at least get a heavy punish in. The pushback on some moves might fool the unaware though.
The best part about the punch parry is that it’s a launcher
Literally Feng is one of the only characters I have to change my entire game plan just to account for the fact that any time I'm plus, he can still launch me. Makes me afraid to even press a button and sometimes ruins the experience when all the rules of tekken get tossed out the window.
All the rules of tekken? Lmfao calm down and learn the match-up fam, Feng has the worst hop kicks in the game and he is incredibly weak to sidestepping. The way you talk makes me think you are a green rank button masher honestly.
@@KroVey I'm a blue rank with about 8+ different characters.(sounds made up but I literally only play 2 games total lol) Part of the reason I'm not higher is because I don't commit to one character and forget how to play my other characters and have to relearn them each time decide to further them in ranked. I've played tons of fengs. I play as Roxashadow on Xbox. Dont believe me? Look me up. I make tons of clips on my profile showing my ranks ups if u happen to own an Xbox one.
@@amosjohnson6348 I play on pc sorry, I don't own an xbox. Anyways, we all have our tough match ups. For example, I consistently get griefed by Kunis.
I feel like Feng is balanced because he has some important weaknesses, despite his upsides. He is very weak to sidesteps. A lot of his key pokes are lows, if you keep that in mind, you can shut down a lot of stuff.
@@KroVey hopkick is not necessary at all in his case, his d, f +3 is far superior than both his hopkick and his 3+4.
When a game has a lot of characters, some are not popular. To improve the pick rate the company buffs it, but because of the roster/meta/players people dont see it as strong, so it keeps being buffed and unused in the background until somone discovers him and omg he is busted.
I've never understood this issue. Obviously all of the characters can't be popular. If they actually expect every character to be used the same amount, every character would have around a 2% usage rate... I think it's perfectly fine to have some characters that heavily used, and some that are rarely used. Played a lesser used character can actuality be part of the fun
You forgot his ss2 such a busted long range homing high that gives + frames and sets up backturn mixups
My problem with Feng is that many of his lows doesnt looks like lows, I was get confused playing against him
I can't think of which moves you could be talking about. Only qcf 1 comes to mind
Down 2 maybe
also the opposite is true like uf3+4
@@myboy_
D2 looks like a mid, messed me so bad when I went against one Feng player, thought that shit was unblockable or something, my dumbass honestly couldn't figure it out. Looked at his movelist and went "oh."
you forgot to mention the forward 3,4 whiff launch punish that connects from miles away
i love how he just explains the basic feng wei shit
this character has even more to offer
When he was introduced in T5, I started liking Feng just based on his fight style and animations. Even if it took until T7, Im glad that people started seeing how great he is and how well he does now in tournaments
Best looking/most stylish moves in the game is Lee
Took until tekken 7? He was top 3 in tekken 5 lol
@@myboy_ Top 3 in popularity?
@@watcheverything99 no. Is tekken 5 (pre DR) feng was extremely powerful. Steve was undisputed #1, but devil jin, feng, nina and Bryan were right behind him. TMM made a video on feng in tekken 5, check it out
Yes i’ve been LOVING feng lately. So effing fast and his mixups are godly.
Yeah and his quarter circle forward 1 low attack cannot parried if I recall correctly
Check Titan Thor and Dreadprince channels then.
They will make you learn how to make your Feng S tier 🙂
@@hermanjohnson9180 yeah cuz it's a shoulder
@@AfroKing. I know.
@@hermanjohnson9180 yes but easily block punishable. Finding out the hard way :(
can you breakdown the timing of feng crouch cancel from d+b circle, to forward square and triangle?.
This dude's top 10 includes 30 characters at least. I don't think he knows math
Just want to ask, does people talk about Law lately? Even with his nerfs(which he didn't really need in my opinion) he is still quite strong. Now many players play him by the looks of it though.
Same 3 bar jokes, dislikeing and overestimation. Main pro Law players switch to other characters. Nerfs hit him hard and buffs are 50/50 in terms of goodness. No new RD because «3+4,4 is his rage drive» - King Jae. That's basically it
@@Zimous1 Welp, that's too bad. Imma play Law anyway though.
@@josephyoun8480 Same my friend. It won't stop me from getting Emperor with him (got Yaksa today). Good luck in mastering him and game in general. Take care
@@Zimous1 Thanks friend. I'm still a beginner at light blue ranks but I'll get there.
Feng is super good. It was pretty funny seeing him go from mid-tier in everyone's tierlists to being busted as soon as his combo damage buff dropped
Edit: and iirc he only dropped to mid tier when they made kenpo's block later
Feng players stand up
Fujin feng right here. Been my guy since Tekken 5
🙋🏻♂️
Feng Wei was one of the characters i've always used ever since I started playing from t5 onwards. I always felt like he had EVERYTHING. Why does it seem like he was slept on?
Aye Aye, do NOT start using my character now. I been using him since 5. Stick to y'all Hworangs and Kings😂
Feng: The character who is strong when plus but even stronger when minus.
Perfect description for him lmao
Lmao 😂😂
Keep in mind all of this is kept in check by a few things: his has ABYSMALL range on most of his stuff, that also needs clean hits(anything with range is punishable as fuck), he needs to use pretty much all of his moveset to be effective and is VERY stepable(thats why he has b4, which is just a sidestep check, not a counter). Like kaiper said, one backdash into sidestep is the biggest cockblock to any feng. That being said, he is strong and FUN AS FUCK to both play and watch, so i wouldnt mind him being top 1 even(imo he is at least top15).
sometimes some say that Feng's combo damage is low but that's not entirely true. With some launchers like his F3,4 or his [2 ~ 1], 2 we can easily make combos between 77 and 79 dmg, with his qcf1 in counter hit 70 dmg, and his FF3 in counter hit 83 of dmg and the all without walls. In fact it really depends on the launcher used 😉
@TheMainManSwe and others. If i would do a video with my Heihachi sometimes. Would someone want to comment sometimes. I am going too do some mainman advice.
damn, i missed these more in depth videos, tekken is just interesting, there is never enough to learn about in this game
Feng is very fun to play. When I get tired of being a Jin tryhard I switch to him and just clown on ppl a full color above me in ranks
I main Feng, just love his style and it's not someone you go up against every other match. Looking to expand my horizons but for now I have made it to the greens and am loving playing with him. Been playing Tekken since the very first one, and never had a "main" was just "ok" with everybody, and having one go-to character has made the game that much more enjoyable.
Hey bro. You think feng will be in Tekken 8?
Ive always thought to myself , there is a reason Harada plays Feng in tournament .
Thanks for the vid, i really like this character since T5 both gameplay and design wise. Too bad i feel myself hopeless at learning Feng's arguably best advantage - evasiveness. Thats why i usually play Shaheen/Fahkumram/Gigas, but still enjoy watching videos about this cool kempo master!
My main! Now I'm tuned in
Mine too
and he didn't even mention the backturn which is also amazing
Also, in online, and in a few pressure situations offline, db+3 is indeed launch punishable, but its gotta be perfect reaction, cuz it's exactly-15. You don't get much leeway to react, especially considering it's a fast low.
I've been saying for a long time that Feng could be a KILLER pocket character for pros. People aren't really labbing Feng like that and he can absolutely run wild if you don't know how to fight him.
Hello, I haven't played Tekken in YEARS, I'm talking since Tekken 3. I've been binge watching TMMSWE lately and I've noticed something. You guys know how in basketball, coaches shorten their rotation and only play 7 or 8 players instead of 12 in the playoffs? I'm finding pro players only use 10-15 moves out of a character's given move set. I watched TMMSWE's recent ranked online play with Dragunov, and he is using the same 7 or 8 moves for Dragunov. Is this intentional/meta? Do pro completely disregard moves deemed to be unsafe, negative or low percentage and only use 25% of the move set or less? Same with Kazuya. EWGF over and over and over like he doesn't have any other moves...
Yeah, some moves are only used in combos, at the wall, as punishers etc based on their properties. Some moves just have too bad frames/range/utility to be used in the neutral (when both players are facing each other in poke wars :D).
Usually characters have around 50-150 moves and most of the time the majority of them around really worth using and even more of them aren’t really competitive against very strong opponents. For example, snake edge moves are usable in some circumstances against players who can’t react to them, but against good players you will just get launched. There are a lot of moves like that and it’s a good thing they exist because they add more layers to the game/character. High level players like tmm however only really use moves that work at their level and for most characters there are a lot of moves that aren’t really viable or worth using, except for very specific situations/matchups or when you’re trying to surprise your opponent.
@@tomassmits581 Interesting. Lots of the upper tier and high usage characters (Mishimas) are so optimized that I imagine alot of players have similar playstyles. I'll probably pick this game up next year but I'll probably main Yoshi and Bryan. I love how expressive a player can be with Yoshi's his unorthodox moveset. From my understanding, his normals are pretty weak but he has some of the most diverse options and situational moves and unblockables in the game which inspire creativity.
@@Transfixion yeah if u want to be able to use many different moves, i would say yoshimitsu is perfect for you. He doesn’t have the best ‘conventional’ moves but the fact that he has so many options makes him unpredictable and that’s where his strength comes from.
I think the new df4, 3 string does wonders to his wall and pressure game, also giving you more distance control and oppotunities for combos all around. In tandem with the db3 CH and sabaki parry buffs, Feng has become very strong indeed. Still, he is complicated to use effectively since his moves are very situational and require you to integrate his toolbox creatively, a bit like Lei in that regard. He has clear weaknesses, particularly relative to some DLC characters that are just OP.
I'd say he is right outside of the top-ten: Akuma, Fakhumram, Lidia, Julia, Zafina, Geese, Leroy, Marduk, Steve, and Devil Jin are all above him imo.
He is right there with the next echelon: Paul, Kazuya, Bryan, Master Raven, Alisa, and maybe Bob are around the same level as Feng. I personally think Eliza is very underrated as well, but I know I am in a minority position there (what Abel del Maestro and Arslan have shown with her is scary). But yeah, when you see what specialists can do with Feng it is a thing of beauty: Hao, DreadPrince, Titan Thor...
Heera Malik is also a very good Feng player 🙂
the block in the kimpo needs 19f to start like if you did a faster move and feng did kimpo he won’t be able to block , he can block after 19f while doing kimpo
Most fast moves have the rage of where if you jabbed, df1 or anything else. He evades it.
on D2 CH you can crouchcancel to d4 -> b1+2
“Babe babe wake-up!! MainMan is asking us What’s up!!”
Been maining him since S1.
He wasn't always that good until S4, we Feng mains endured alot of cheese throughout the first 3 seasons.
Now he is finally Viable but not top 10.
Top 15
Your right. Season 3 was fucking hell. That dmg was too high back then...
Now he’s top 4
The hidden Top tier is finally being recognised...damn now he’s gonna get nerfed most likely 💀 y’all ruining it for us Feng mains bruh
Coincidentally or not, but couple of days ago I got owned as a Byron by Feng by 40-2 at Genbu rank. Those lows and parries penetrated my Byron's ghoulish body most of the time and being a cyborg didn't help xD Couple of hours of frustration got me uninstall T7 soon thereafter. For now fun is depleted, but I'll probably retry another month.
Honestly one of my favorite characters in Tekken. Glad he is out there.
..."out there???" Lol
I think he can only block after the transition into kenpo, while in transition he's wide open, I've caught many feng Wei if they're close enough
Reminds me of the day's when everyone thought Dragonov was top 1 after JDCR picked him. Feng was always a strong character but I don't see him in top 10.
If you are slightly decent with Tekken and know some set ups and matchups, this character will carry you sooo much.
Arguably top 10 HA LOLOL. Feng controls the energy for real. Soon as S4 dropped he shot to the moon!
opponent crouches/duck..then...counter hit on ws+4
what do you after this?
Up2 on a wake up low read has evasivon too. I know because ive been wrecked by it before lol
Mainmanswe is an intelligent man
Mainmanswe: this move is VERY fast coming at 20 frames
Pls do a tekken 3 heihachi breakdown
Why would anybody doubt him? Y'all know they be whoopin ass online..
i feel like when you demonstrate something difficult, and you hit it, you don’t need to demonstrate it again (if its gonna take 3-5 tries). its youtube, we can rewind if we want to see it, just talk about once you hit and if we want to see it again we’ll press left on our keyboard. love the vids
I think that wall combo works on every single character, does not matter with size.
Never knew why people wrote him off dude is hellah strong. Was wondering why people don’t mention him. Having all that evasion is an issue. Having db3 on counter setting u up for a 50/50 is an issue. It’s -15 but hellah good. Played so many primes using feng and it’s online so how do I deal with the 50/50 if u can’t block properly lol. Back to square one dude is hellah good
Kenpo has already been touch lol, now you have to space properly to not get hit if you do it at wrong distance. It use to be really good to get out of danger and characters mix ups. I would get hate mail from players saying I use that move to much before the nerf.
Love feng my main. I saw his potential a long time ago.
He forgot Feng's WS1. It's god like too.
How busted is it?
Only read the title so far but DUHHHHHH if anyone has a friend who mains feng they'll have the same energy duhh I just gave u
Also I swear you can't low parry QCF1 everytime I try when I know it's comimg it never works..
As a Feng main since T5, I kindly ask that you stop spreading awareness about my boi being good 🤫
For real... That feeling of being in an exclusive club
Should we tell mainman about titan thor? he makes feng wei look like a god.
I agree
Feng wei has always been a strong char imo... The evasion the toolset his wall game and mixups etc.
Only thing that was holding him back in previous seasons was his poor combo tools and specifically conversion flexibility (db 1 4 recovered like sh*t !!!) Which made his no wall combos somewhat weak compared to the rest of the cast.
This has been directly addressed TWICE through updates with a new servicable screw attack and new float combo ender/wall ender
Oh yes and directed damage buffs to his key combo moves also helps :)
I do agree that feng is super strong but not top 10 that's going too far imo, when I compare to the rest of the cast
Which 10 do you think are better ?
He certainly is top 10.
So funny but Feng was a character no one played. Now he's buffed and he's top 10. Even MainMan made a video once with the title "for you and the 3 other Feng mains" or something along those lines.
I laughed when he said that
So that's why Harada picks him
The only thing this character lacked was combo damage and that was patched s4. What do you mean "might"?
I haven't played much ranked and fought against my first Feng Wei the other day.
Needless to say I got smoked.
The wall combo on males is only guaranteed if they move
He's strong enough to allow players with green rank fundamentals to evade and move like purple ranks.
Yeah the character pretty much plays himself 90% of the time
yep, but when you see someone with actual movement doing these evasive moves. good lord
Feng doesn't need any nerfs in my opinion, he's fine the way he is. Top tier but not broken.
I find it funny how we only started to realize how strong he was once people like knee and arslan pointed it out.
I remember commenting on a TMM video a while ago taking about how crazy good this character is, and multiple people actually had the audacity to strongly disagree and say he wasn't... Feng has multiple moves that are so busted they almost seem like accidents 😄Qcf1 being unlowparryable and only -14, (meaning as a Zafi player, the most i get is an incredible wr4 punish everytime) in addition to uf2 being effectively safe and having complimentary tracking to some of his other moves alone already take the cake for me
-14 is actually a pretty bad place to be in Tekken 7. A handful of characters can launch Feng for that while others get a heavy punish.
@@h.t.8710 yeah, I know, which is why I hate that I can't! Lol
@@painandpyro Well, if it's any consolation, Feng himself gets WS+1,2 which is a whopping +1 on hit, so not much better than the average WS+4.
@@painandpyro so what you’re saying isn’t that that move is busted, it’s that zafinas ws punishment sucks.
I’ve been saying this! Didn’t knee as feng was top 5 a few years ago?
OMG Feng sucks. 🤣
Knee wins EVO 2022 with Feng, just rolled over the competition. 😵
why does every sweden guy sounds like chimpmunk
always been
pretty much ling wei/feng xiaoyu, unga bunga evasiveness.
Forget your fundamentals regarding turns, it's Feng
Just finished watching this video. Hopped on as Devil Jin and my first matchup is Feng. Gave him a fresh hot No Round Brown and he declined to rematch lol.
ooh new series
It was obvious, he has 4000 years of chinese martial arts on his side
🤣😂🤣
It's technically not the character that's good...it's the player who's behind the character and how they use said character
My Feng is so mediocre please give me some tools here
Harada main is Feng.
Yea i also tell people like all the time how good Feng probably is. The most weird part is that people say his punishment is somewhat lackluster until i tell them he can launch most safe strings which hab a punch in it. He can 1+2 sabaki Heihachis second hit of his RD for example because its a punch and launch him for that. So as Hei you are actually never allowed to do a RD in Neutral. You must be aware of a lot of things when fighting Feng, especially never retaliate with a punch.
I also wonder why people always think that Feng got OP in S4. Feng always had those tools and was always evasive AF. Db3 becoming a counterhit move in S4 is less of a deal than his increased damage and was always good anyways (he didn't need that CH property on db3 though).
Overall he became better, yes, but not overwhelmingly changed throughout T7.
BUT as a Feng main i wish for some moves to get a tune down. I really dislike the CH on db3 because it acutally kills momentum. It just gives you additional damage, which isn't really needed.
Against experienced players Feng starts to struggle when trying to BS too much because you get stepped pretty easy. Most of his chunky moves are very linear and have bad recovery, so you gonna stick with db3 and df1 a lot which will make you very predictable.
His normal block punishment is pretty decent but his ws punishment is pretty bad tbh. I don’t think he’s changed too much, just people forgot how good his moves were due to lack of players. He still has his awkward weakness of needing to be close to get things going while having his strength of having a shit ton of evasion.
Feng was strong since season 2.