@@watersheep5535 this is what the developers just dont get. they always say that they dont wanna remove moves, but just dont understand that this is the only way of fixing these characters. changing the properties is not enough. they can remove moves when they make a new tekken so why can't they remove moves during a lifespan of a tekken? we have updates and so on. its not 2005 where we were stuck with broken tekken 5 steve until tekken 5 dr. I just dont get it.
Fahkumram was so insane for so long after his launch. Winning games with just CH3, 4 into ff+2,1 was common. I won matches with one hand holding a phone during a call. I'm liking where he is now though. He isn't too frustrating to play anymore. I think they could take some of his pressure down a notch since he has other tools he can make use of.
@@bweeptabop3944 I don't mind the fact that all new chars have sweeps I do mind that each of them has a low that tracks both ways.. Leroy's sweep, fahkumrams sweep and lidias FCdf3, it kills mind games and reduces the skill gap.. If it would track to one side good players would know where to step, this way is all about guessing thus no skills.. Yes to sweeps no to marking sweeps lol
@@bweeptabop3944 lidias FCdf3? it's hardly seeable, yesterday chikenmaru used it on anakin who has great reactions in general, also it's i20.. However since it's i20 and her second slowest move from FC is i15(WS2) means that people can fuzzy, however this is where delay comes into play or FC cancel
@@songoku6067 remember that time when he said lidia is top 1. What a dumbass This why my trust for people measuring character strength is non-existent.
hindsight is 20-20 my man. but yeah pretty funny to think back on it. i suppose it's hard to hate when your developers are literally supporting your favourite game with new characters. and as always it takes a bit of time to fully understand the extent of how good he was.
"The developer's hadn't learned their lesson... wasn't their any testing?" It's more likely that they deliberately released a powerful character to incentivise the playerbase to buy him. I don't believe for a second that they didn't know what they were making.
Oh and something you missed about his 1, 4 punish is that if your opponent wasn't holding down the back button, a d/f+2 was gauranteed. Ridiculous how often this actually worked.
That's just a property of moves that put you in a tailspin or are +15g etc. They're the same as being +15 except the opponent can guard. If they don't guard you can do anything that's i15 or faster
It was *so* cathartic when this dumb character was finally nerfed into oblivion and landed on his ugly face in the trash tier. The bears needed the company.
@@SchifferThe2nd Also, who do you think is more OP? I personally think it's Fahk. He has the advantages of a "big character", but almost not the weaknesses. Still hate Leroy, tough.
Fun trivia, his command throw's break was apparently from leftover Tag2 data, as every break in that game was 14f Murray tweeted this, which might also be why his and Zafina's movement is so good in comparison to every other character in T7 :
5:55: Jesus, I remember that. Probably the most broken thing ever, and it wasn't even a move, just hitbox that wasn't there🥴. *How ironic, for a big character like Fahkumram*
I still maintain that Season 3 PRE-LEROY Release was the best Tekken 7 had ever been. The community was optimistic and proud of their game and the patch balanced A LOT of characters. Top tiers were nerfed and the new moves on each character was something the franchise had never seen before and brought a lot of lower tiers up to a decent enough level... ... all that changed when the Leroy Nation attacked...
The devs just don’t mind letting us deal with busted ass characters because we all buy them in order to learn the match up, so they get twice the sales. The people who buy to win buy him(cha Ching) and the people who wanna lab that monster that is steamrolling them buy him (cha Ching)
@@oreowithurea5018 oh yeah, I think a strong case can be made for both without a doubt. Leroy would still have a hard time in the longe range, but I think his unnerfed D1+2 would do work, being a 0ob, leaves opponent in crouch ch launcher. As to your point of moves not hitting, I obviously can't say for sure, with Fahk's backdash, but Leroy's tracking hellsweep and homing b4 covering the same range and having similar startups would certainly make Fahk's good sidestep less prevalent. Either way, definitely a fun though experiment for us Tekken nerds 🤓
I remember on day 1 of Fahkumram's release Mainman stated he was going to main him and that he was not crazy OP. I guess there wasn't as much of an outcry about Fahk initially as there was with Leroy, but it's funny looking back in hindsight now.
Yeah hindsight is 20/20. Not sure if TMM would make a video on Lidia, but now that she’s considered a tournament staple, odd to think about how a lot of people only called her “mid tier-upper mid” on release.
The thing that causes problems is when a character has too much going for him. It used to be the fact that you would pick a character for the things they were strong in but they all always had weaknesses also. Now there are a lot of character that have it all. Wall carry, damage, movement, and so much more. Characters need strengths and weaknesses
They absolutely knew what they were doing with him. I even believe Murray trains in Muay Thai, so there was probably special bias for Ram to be uber busted on launch. (Assuming that last bit is even true.)
I dont get it whats holding Bamco to release a patch that at least tunes some numbers, really how much effort is required to decrease some damage on moves?
I want to be paid reparations from Bandai Namco for having to play against this fucking monstrosity on release. Online was absolutely ruined for months (and still kinda is tbh)
I remember joking around that Fahkumram's left leg was selectively tangible, since a lot of the time lows would hit his right leg if at all, glad to know it's not only noticed but well documented
I stopped wondering who tested leroy and fahk, they knew what they were doing. push out stupid op characters to drive sales, then nerf them gradually after the fact. They knew they overdid it with Leroy when he completely dominated tournaments, but they didn't patch it despite big tournaments being on the horizon. These people designed Tekken characters for years, some decades. THey absolutely know. It's their new business model, plain and simple. One of the few reasons that make me look forward less towards T8.
I remember seeing his trailer and not really knowing what Tekken 7 was. I got super interested in the game because of his trailer and he’s kinda the reason I got the game. I never got the character since I felt like I needed to earn buying a character by learning the game with the base cast. Now everyone says he’s over powered and I probably won’t ever buy them because of that lol.
meh fuck what people say abt the character man this community is bitch made. play whoever is the most fun to you and just have a good time w this game 🤙
Don't worry about it too much. This is one of the few fighting games where tier lists don't matter. I've seen chloe and panda players dominate world class pro players countless times.
If you like him there's no problem on trying him out. This is a fighting game, the better skilled player is always gonna have the edge. So we could use the strongest character in the game and still get destroyed by a random Gigas or a panda.
@@blurryface5744 I mean you barely see anyone using panda, Kuma, lucky Chloe and at times gigas, as well as the vampire girl, followed by the ganryu...when you barely see mates playing with certain characters it makes it harder to defeat them In matches. Which is why when panda won a tournament it was surprising and shocking ash. Primarily because no one necessarily plays with the bears like that. When it came down to lucky Chloe....you barely see ANYONE in online matches or ranked playing with her...hell, arslan had to face that one mate in practice matches to comprehend how to play against lucky Chloe, most literally. If such characters were used all the time, it'd be much easier to fight against them
Hope you are ready for Tekken 8 being busted on release.......I do not think Namco will release tekken 8 in arcade....so the reasonable conclusion is T8 will be very broken day `1
4:15 Still broken- people make the excuse saying "yea but his hurt-box is huge" its literally a pole with 2 arms , still a easy mode ass character - your emotion behind this is so accurate. The guard brake is crazy enough and is just a random god-like tool to have for any character AND They just up and give it to him! ... Not to mention his stage presence due to the lack of Knowledge on him cause people didn't buy him AND he's clearly powerful after the 1st round ‼️.
U forgot to mention df1,2 second hit CH launcher. Also d4 did 18dmg. Also 1,2,1 was safe mid hit confirmable. Also b4,3 was mid mid and safe. Df1,4,1 was neutral on block and fc. 3,4,3 was CH launcher and guaranteed hit on NH. 4,3,4 was knockdown wallsplat. Just to name a few
I genuinely pray that we won't get broken on release characters in Tekken 8. I hope Murray and Mishimastar learn their lesson this time around, and make new characters balanced, and if they can't do that...just make them shit on release, and make them stronger throughout the course of the game. If they somehow repeat the same New Character/DLC cycle that was T7, then I'm gonna be disappointed.
If you are a Muay Thai monster world champion you are IRL the best standup fighter in the world, no full contact standup combat sport comes anywhere close.... the only time a World Champion Muay Thai Fighter would struggle is if it was a UFC/MMA fight due to Jiu Jitsu, but Tekken is not such a game..... Tekken is a striking game and then Muay Thai should come FIRST.
Season 3 started with so much potential. Season 2 was full of awesomely updated, legacy characters & S3 started with Zafina, who I was really happy to see return. Then the T6 Bob-level dlc, new characters showed up, along with Ganryu who I don't mind, but wasn't excited to see return. Why does Bamco hate chain-throws, now? No Bruce & no new chains since T5/DR. Fahk got no chain-throws, which I find odd.... Muay Thai, & all. Wanted OG Raven to return, also. An updated Unknown would been sick, as the final dlc character. That Pink Ranger Polish chick at the end was quite a cop-out. Bamco's new logo makes alot of sense, to me. Thanks for the vid, TMM.
Would be good to see fahk, josie deleted for Bruce to return. Id go as far as trading Bryan for Brad Hawk to display previous used mechanics Namco used
My love for tekken has grown apart from it 😔 I deleted the game at being at the rank of Emperor. Simply because I feel like my grind would be useless going against rage quitters, pluggers and etc. it’s no point it just wastes my time
Good video but I'd like to point out that generic throws do not have a larger break window than command throws, they are the same and there is one other throw that has a 14f break window currently which is Steves backsway wall push throw :)
I'm surprised that you didn't mention how his d/f+1 was +8~+9 on hit. This was absolutely not okay, especially for a d/f+1 with absurd range AND EXTENSIONS. A d/f+1 that was -3 on block and +8~+9 with that reach alone (standard 13f btw) would've been godlike, but they decided to not only give it an extension, but SEVERAL.
I never understood hate in Fahkumram, I mean winning with him aint as easy as it seems. No panic moves like hopkick or ch df2 , worst sidestep in the game etc.
@@REPIN156 I main Lidia then Feng, fahkumram is my 3rd, and I'm very sure that out of the 3 the most difficult is to win with fahkumram.. I'm at high ranks and have lots of offline experience
Good at start, nerf later, reason? - money, they need sell dlc character, but you cant sell something bad that why it is. Same strategy is in Path of Exile, they buff some skills and also make nice purchasable effects for that skills, and next league this skill become nerfed. We are dealing with pure marketing, and this is destroing whole gaming experience. Evreywhere marketing is involved, they just dont create art, gaming world is suffering, its all becoming like abstraction art where everyone can be an "artist".
1:49 Some developers that make fighting games don't actually know how to play fighting games. You'll be surprised but Harada isn't that good at Tekken. He just makes what's fun. That's how leroys frame data got through testing, because they were just making a fun character.
I really like the character itself and his idea of deadly knees and anckles. He looks incredible. His attacks speak juicy power. But why they made him so broken lol. His very mechanic would give him hate even if he was not in top 10 on the launch. But for some reason, Namco decided to give him godlike reach with godlike frames on top of that.
I'm new to tekken 7 due to the recent cheap sale I did play killer instinct and it seems that tekken went down the same route ki did with releasing new characters, make them more powerful so people would want to get them to win matches.
I remember some people saying he wasn't that Op, merely new, after 2 weeks of him being out. I still can't fathom that. He was so blatantly Op it's not even funny. That d/f1 string instantly stood out as free offense on steroids.
If Fahk was scaled down to the average size of a male tekken character along with his movement and range he might not have been such a pain, but if he's not better than the last dlc character he wouldn't sell
Bruh, this is why virtua fighter is better than tekken. Like street fighter it innovates with realistic gameplay, and now thanks to virtua fighter 5 us Harada is contemplating the potential of free to play fighting games, which makes sense because dlc is where they make most of their money back.
I maintain that this was done as testing in preparation for 8. They needed to re calibrate their metrics. Only explanation because otherwise makes zero sense.
Its simple really, most people(Average Tekken Players) wouldnt buy a DLC if it isnt better than the character they are currently accustomed to, so it should provide better Damage at release and without practice than what they can achieve with their main(old) character whome they have been playing maybe for years now.
I don't care what anyone says. Bruce was my fave in the other tekken games, and they kind of gave me what I wanted. I'm maining this dude regardless he's too fun.
As a Josie Main i seriously wondered what's the point of still playing this game? There is litterally my main in stronger. Still today you can just make a video about fakh and josie similar moves that will just show fakh have everything or almost in better.
I wasn't playing a ton when Fahkumram dropped so I didn't see a lot of launch Fahk. I did follow some videos of when he came out but I don't remember specific things besides the "ghost legs" effect from his strongest period. I remember more of what happened when they started nerfing him. I think they had more to work with when nerfing him compared to Leroy but he's still really powerful. His lows are tough to read but, in fairness, so are Josie's.
atleast now if u install the ancient ogre mod for him, hes the true god of fighting :D not like in tekken tag2 when he was god of sucking, go get the mod!
I was so excited for him and Leroy, but as soon as I got my hands on them it was an immediate nope. They definitely feel "new tekken" in a gross way
The problem is that "new tekken" give every (usually dlc) character EVERYTHING
Leroy only feels new if you were never interested in Wang.
@@lucky-13gof47 thats the biggest kick in the guts is that wang is just fuckin dead now that we're most likely stuck with leroy until the end of time
@@lucky-13gof47 the only thing like Wang about Leroy is his parry and it's not even the same.
@@watersheep5535 this is what the developers just dont get. they always say that they dont wanna remove moves, but just dont understand that this is the only way of fixing these characters. changing the properties is not enough. they can remove moves when they make a new tekken so why can't they remove moves during a lifespan of a tekken? we have updates and so on. its not 2005 where we were stuck with broken tekken 5 steve until tekken 5 dr. I just dont get it.
Fahkumram was so insane for so long after his launch. Winning games with just CH3, 4 into ff+2,1 was common. I won matches with one hand holding a phone during a call. I'm liking where he is now though. He isn't too frustrating to play anymore. I think they could take some of his pressure down a notch since he has other tools he can make use of.
You didn't need 3,4 CH, if they ducked the second string of 3,4 ff21 was guaranteed on NH
Why the hell does he have a hellsweep and 3 ways to access it lol. Why do all three of the new characters have a hellsweep XD
@@bweeptabop3944 I don't mind the fact that all new chars have sweeps I do mind that each of them has a low that tracks both ways..
Leroy's sweep, fahkumrams sweep and lidias FCdf3, it kills mind games and reduces the skill gap..
If it would track to one side good players would know where to step, this way is all about guessing thus no skills..
Yes to sweeps no to marking sweeps lol
@@kain1144 Ya tracking sweeps are lame. Though liddys fcdf+3 I think is kind of see-able.
@@bweeptabop3944 lidias FCdf3?
it's hardly seeable, yesterday chikenmaru used it on anakin who has great reactions in general, also it's i20..
However since it's i20 and her second slowest move from FC is i15(WS2) means that people can fuzzy, however this is where delay comes into play or FC cancel
Remembering back in season 3, when Mainman thought Fahkumram wasn’t that broken. How times have changed.
Reminds me of knee saying akuma is mid tier like bruh ain't you a tournament player who specializes in tekken stfu
He said that about every dlc character and look at them now
@@songoku6067 remember that time when he said lidia is top 1. What a dumbass
This why my trust for people measuring character strength is non-existent.
He even thought Leroy wasn't broken, but look at now
hindsight is 20-20 my man. but yeah pretty funny to think back on it. i suppose it's hard to hate when your developers are literally supporting your favourite game with new characters. and as always it takes a bit of time to fully understand the extent of how good he was.
"The developer's hadn't learned their lesson... wasn't their any testing?"
It's more likely that they deliberately released a powerful character to incentivise the playerbase to buy him. I don't believe for a second that they didn't know what they were making.
Seeing as it's always the dlc characters so strong I believe u
ye i mean its not like they were developing fighting games since the 90s, give them a break
Yep, it's just another case of pay to win.
Oh and something you missed about his 1, 4 punish is that if your opponent wasn't holding down the back button, a d/f+2 was gauranteed. Ridiculous how often this actually worked.
That's just a property of moves that put you in a tailspin or are +15g etc. They're the same as being +15 except the opponent can guard. If they don't guard you can do anything that's i15 or faster
It was *so* cathartic when this dumb character was finally nerfed into oblivion and landed on his ugly face in the trash tier. The bears needed the company.
And the fact that he came after Leroy. It's like they did this on purpose.
*Leroy get released*
"It can't get any worse can it?
Harada: "watch me"
*Release this abomination*
@@SchifferThe2nd Also, who do you think is more OP?
I personally think it's Fahk. He has the advantages of a "big character", but almost not the weaknesses. Still hate Leroy, tough.
@@brendongame2543 Fahk was also buggy day 1, at least Leroy worked as intended on release.
Fun trivia, his command throw's break was apparently from leftover Tag2 data, as every break in that game was 14f Murray tweeted this, which might also be why his and Zafina's movement is so good in comparison to every other character in T7 :
Fahkumram's d/f+1+2 is one of the best "carry" moves the series has ever seen. Any time you're losing, throw that bad boy out and laugh.
5:55: Jesus, I remember that. Probably the most broken thing ever, and it wasn't even a move, just hitbox that wasn't there🥴.
*How ironic, for a big character like Fahkumram*
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I still maintain that Season 3 PRE-LEROY Release was the best Tekken 7 had ever been. The community was optimistic and proud of their game and the patch balanced A LOT of characters. Top tiers were nerfed and the new moves on each character was something the franchise had never seen before and brought a lot of lower tiers up to a decent enough level...
... all that changed when the Leroy Nation attacked...
The devs just don’t mind letting us deal with busted ass characters because we all buy them in order to learn the match up, so they get twice the sales. The people who buy to win buy him(cha Ching) and the people who wanna lab that monster that is steamrolling them buy him (cha Ching)
Fahks backdash was insane, his combos brought you to wall and killed you with his charged guard break moves
Can you make a video breaking down the recent Fahkumram and Lidya? It's a bit hard to see for some people that they're top tier.
I'd like to see launch Fahk up against launch Leroy competitively, final boss vs final boss, who wins?
Leroy was a step above imo. Dude had EVERYTHING
I'll take Launch Fahk anytime any day. He'll literally keep Leroy at range (3).
@@Guil_P it's arguable tho, don't forget Fakh's movement and hitbox, you can't use your best moves if they don't connect
@@oreowithurea5018 oh yeah, I think a strong case can be made for both without a doubt.
Leroy would still have a hard time in the longe range, but I think his unnerfed D1+2 would do work, being a 0ob, leaves opponent in crouch ch launcher.
As to your point of moves not hitting, I obviously can't say for sure, with Fahk's backdash, but Leroy's tracking hellsweep and homing b4 covering the same range and having similar startups would certainly make Fahk's good sidestep less prevalent.
Either way, definitely a fun though experiment for us Tekken nerds 🤓
Leroy wins with homing FF+3 launcher for reach and ch db+4 launch for up close along db+1 being high crush
I remember on day 1 of Fahkumram's release Mainman stated he was going to main him and that he was not crazy OP. I guess there wasn't as much of an outcry about Fahk initially as there was with Leroy, but it's funny looking back in hindsight now.
Yeah hindsight is 20/20. Not sure if TMM would make a video on Lidia, but now that she’s considered a tournament staple, odd to think about how a lot of people only called her “mid tier-upper mid” on release.
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The thing that causes problems is when a character has too much going for him. It used to be the fact that you would pick a character for the things they were strong in but they all always had weaknesses also. Now there are a lot of character that have it all. Wall carry, damage, movement, and so much more. Characters need strengths and weaknesses
They absolutely knew what they were doing with him. I even believe Murray trains in Muay Thai, so there was probably special bias for Ram to be uber busted on launch. (Assuming that last bit is even true.)
I dont get it whats holding Bamco to release a patch that at least tunes some numbers, really how much effort is required to decrease some damage on moves?
I want to be paid reparations from Bandai Namco for having to play against this fucking monstrosity on release.
Online was absolutely ruined for months (and still kinda is tbh)
Remember when they gave kazuya a homing hellsweep and tmm did a video of him explaining how dumb it was and how he was gonna main fahkuram 👀
I remember joking around that Fahkumram's left leg was selectively tangible, since a lot of the time lows would hit his right leg if at all, glad to know it's not only noticed but well documented
I stopped wondering who tested leroy and fahk, they knew what they were doing. push out stupid op characters to drive sales, then nerf them gradually after the fact. They knew they overdid it with Leroy when he completely dominated tournaments, but they didn't patch it despite big tournaments being on the horizon.
These people designed Tekken characters for years, some decades. THey absolutely know. It's their new business model, plain and simple. One of the few reasons that make me look forward less towards T8.
14:21 "you could do this all day long and all she could do was jab".
she can just duck the second hit and launch
But there is a mid extension
I remember seeing his trailer and not really knowing what Tekken 7 was. I got super interested in the game because of his trailer and he’s kinda the reason I got the game. I never got the character since I felt like I needed to earn buying a character by learning the game with the base cast. Now everyone says he’s over powered and I probably won’t ever buy them because of that lol.
meh fuck what people say abt the character man this community is bitch made. play whoever is the most fun to you and just have a good time w this game 🤙
Don't worry about it too much. This is one of the few fighting games where tier lists don't matter. I've seen chloe and panda players dominate world class pro players countless times.
If you like him there's no problem on trying him out. This is a fighting game, the better skilled player is always gonna have the edge. So we could use the strongest character in the game and still get destroyed by a random Gigas or a panda.
@@blurryface5744 I mean you barely see anyone using panda, Kuma, lucky Chloe and at times gigas, as well as the vampire girl, followed by the ganryu...when you barely see mates playing with certain characters it makes it harder to defeat them In matches. Which is why when panda won a tournament it was surprising and shocking ash. Primarily because no one necessarily plays with the bears like that. When it came down to lucky Chloe....you barely see ANYONE in online matches or ranked playing with her...hell, arslan had to face that one mate in practice matches to comprehend how to play against lucky Chloe, most literally. If such characters were used all the time, it'd be much easier to fight against them
I remember how busted this was. And fahk wasn't just banned in Pakistan. He had bans in ALOT of tournaments
Oh god.. harada tried to warn us
I remeber asking TMM, back when Fahkumhram came out, who was stronger beteen him and Josie, and he said Josie was stronger.
Fun times.
Yay it’s here! Fahkyourmom was an insane character in season 3.
New Tekken player here, as soon as I got Fakuh in the DLC I knew he was a problem 💀😭
16:20 All throw breaks have a 20-frame window in Tekken, not 27. This one had 14
He said 20
Hope you are ready for Tekken 8 being busted on release.......I do not think Namco will release tekken 8 in arcade....so the reasonable conclusion is T8 will be very broken day `1
Rewatching from patch 5.00, all I can say is lmao
can you take a look at season 1 kazumi that would be amazing
4:15 Still broken- people make the excuse saying "yea but his hurt-box is huge" its literally a pole with 2 arms , still a easy mode ass character - your emotion behind this is so accurate. The guard brake is crazy enough and is just a random god-like tool to have for any character AND They just up and give it to him! ... Not to mention his stage presence due to the lack of Knowledge on him cause people didn't buy him AND he's clearly powerful after the 1st round ‼️.
16:10 the default throws are useless that way, the window should be 20 frames still
U forgot to mention df1,2 second hit CH launcher. Also d4 did 18dmg. Also 1,2,1 was safe mid hit confirmable. Also b4,3 was mid mid and safe. Df1,4,1 was neutral on block and fc. 3,4,3 was CH launcher and guaranteed hit on NH. 4,3,4 was knockdown wallsplat. Just to name a few
I genuinely pray that we won't get broken on release characters in Tekken 8. I hope Murray and Mishimastar learn their lesson this time around, and make new characters balanced, and if they can't do that...just make them shit on release, and make them stronger throughout the course of the game. If they somehow repeat the same New Character/DLC cycle that was T7, then I'm gonna be disappointed.
If you are a Muay Thai monster world champion you are IRL the best standup fighter in the world, no full contact standup combat sport comes anywhere close.... the only time a World Champion Muay Thai Fighter would struggle is if it was a UFC/MMA fight due to Jiu Jitsu, but Tekken is not such a game..... Tekken is a striking game and then Muay Thai should come FIRST.
df(1)2 was also kd on ch on release which is important because made it so that nobody dared to try and interupt even more
Season 3 started with so much potential. Season 2 was full of awesomely updated, legacy characters & S3 started with Zafina, who I was really happy to see return. Then the T6 Bob-level dlc, new characters showed up, along with Ganryu who I don't mind, but wasn't excited to see return. Why does Bamco hate chain-throws, now? No Bruce & no new chains since T5/DR. Fahk got no chain-throws, which I find odd.... Muay Thai, & all. Wanted OG Raven to return, also. An updated Unknown would been sick, as the final dlc character. That Pink Ranger Polish chick at the end was quite a cop-out. Bamco's new logo makes alot of sense, to me. Thanks for the vid, TMM.
Would be good to see fahk, josie deleted for Bruce to return. Id go as far as trading Bryan for Brad Hawk to display previous used mechanics Namco used
tekken 8 will be sick on release but who knows how much the dev team will fuck with the game with updates, “balance” patches and dlc characters
I feel like every dlc character is broken and banned except for the OG characters
3:04 STANDING HERE I REALIZE
My love for tekken has grown apart from it 😔 I deleted the game at being at the rank of Emperor. Simply because I feel like my grind would be useless going against rage quitters, pluggers and etc. it’s no point it just wastes my time
Good video but I'd like to point out that generic throws do not have a larger break window than command throws, they are the same and there is one other throw that has a 14f break window currently which is Steves backsway wall push throw :)
I'm surprised that you didn't mention how his d/f+1 was +8~+9 on hit. This was absolutely not okay, especially for a d/f+1 with absurd range AND EXTENSIONS. A d/f+1 that was -3 on block and +8~+9 with that reach alone (standard 13f btw) would've been godlike, but they decided to not only give it an extension, but SEVERAL.
Game hasn't been balanced since season 2 kinda sad honestly, namco wanted to line their pockets with broken DLC pay to win characters.
I still love Fakhyounaw, i was so hyped when his trailer came out : p
I think what happened was a dev actually played the game online. Met a semi competent Akuma and said we need a character that strong from our game.
Being a muay thai practitioner is why I like Fahkumram as a character.
Leroy = Ogre.
Fahkumram = True Ogre.
Love this old intro with Solitude
Its propably Bully Maguire in a suit
I never understood hate in Fahkumram, I mean winning with him aint as easy as it seems. No panic moves like hopkick or ch df2 , worst sidestep in the game etc.
That last one wasn't always true.
Imo eddy is the one that having the worst ss and they don't even care to fix that.
@@JunKazamaFan fahkumram step is worse than kumas and akumas now* tho
It was also tested by arslan on the stream
I main Fahk and I’m struggling with him. It’s definitely not easy winning with him.
@@REPIN156 I main Lidia then Feng, fahkumram is my 3rd, and I'm very sure that out of the 3 the most difficult is to win with fahkumram..
I'm at high ranks and have lots of offline experience
Leroy and Fahkumram are just prime examples of Pay to Win.
This is Sagat from Tekken vs Street Fighter, but without the projectiles and the Tiger Uppercut...
Good at start, nerf later, reason? - money, they need sell dlc character, but you cant sell something bad that why it is. Same strategy is in Path of Exile, they buff some skills and also make nice purchasable effects for that skills, and next league this skill become nerfed. We are dealing with pure marketing, and this is destroing whole gaming experience. Evreywhere marketing is involved, they just dont create art, gaming world is suffering, its all becoming like abstraction art where everyone can be an "artist".
1:49 Some developers that make fighting games don't actually know how to play fighting games. You'll be surprised but Harada isn't that good at Tekken. He just makes what's fun. That's how leroys frame data got through testing, because they were just making a fun character.
Was it launch Fahk that also had a low crushing forward dash?
I really like the character itself and his idea of deadly knees and anckles. He looks incredible. His attacks speak juicy power. But why they made him so broken lol. His very mechanic would give him hate even if he was not in top 10 on the launch. But for some reason, Namco decided to give him godlike reach with godlike frames on top of that.
I'm new to tekken 7 due to the recent cheap sale
I did play killer instinct and it seems that tekken went down the same route ki did with releasing new characters, make them more powerful so people would want to get them to win matches.
I remember some people saying he wasn't that Op, merely new, after 2 weeks of him being out. I still can't fathom that. He was so blatantly Op it's not even funny.
That d/f1 string instantly stood out as free offense on steroids.
everytime he said "note the..." i died laughing
Lol i still haven't recovered from Leroy and Fahkumram. Still remain as easy options to win without that much effort.
You should talk about Season 2 Jin, if possible.
If Fahk was scaled down to the average size of a male tekken character along with his movement and range he might not have been such a pain, but if he's not better than the last dlc character he wouldn't sell
But it's nice to have super tall char imo
They should nerf some of his mix ups tools and he's fine
His size is fine, makes him unique from the rest of the roster. What Bamco needs to do is nerf his frames and properties more.
Please make a video that you guys are playin release Leroy vs release Fahkumram
Bruh, this is why virtua fighter is better than tekken. Like street fighter it innovates with realistic gameplay, and now thanks to virtua fighter 5 us Harada is contemplating the potential of free to play fighting games, which makes sense because dlc is where they make most of their money back.
They already made a f2p Tekken back in 2013. Remember Tekken Revolution? They closed the servers in 2017. That game was pure mess though...
Yea it’s just sad how much pay to win dlc is a factor. But they can’t make the character bad or no one will buy the characters or pass
19:11 thanks tmm means alot haha my will to play died with leroy and fahks releases
What is the break frames now on Fahks throw?
Same as everyone else's, I think.
20 frames
I'm glad he's starting to see the bs in the DLC characters, he neglected the issues with all of them until he took a break with youtube it seems
This is how T8 characters gonna play like.
Fresh new good ass TMM Tekken lesson! Baking hot!
I maintain that this was done as testing in preparation for 8. They needed to re calibrate their metrics. Only explanation because otherwise makes zero sense.
Its simple really, most people(Average Tekken Players) wouldnt buy a DLC if it isnt better than the character they are currently accustomed to, so it should provide better Damage at release and without practice than what they can achieve with their main(old) character whome they have been playing maybe for years now.
U forgot to mention wall damage in season 3 are much more
at least leroy looks fresh, fahk is a dumpster fire of a character, in all senses
It’s ironic cuz Muay Thai irl would decimate a majority of the other styles
Good content lately keep it up
They should bring back these characters for T8
let's appreciate the developers for disigning perfect characters 🙌
"Cant touch dis" *dabs*
I will get him, looks fun to play.
He is fun to play but gets boring fast 🤷♂️
@@donvisione3634 for you, he's very fun to play at least for me. His design and animations are nicely done
@The tricky tick nah its fun sometimes, but i cant main him. Gets boring
Mainman talks abt how busted Fahk is
Hwoarang mains : ....
Love you bro
Season 4 should have been devil kaz from story mode for dlc lmao
I don't care what anyone says. Bruce was my fave in the other tekken games, and they kind of gave me what I wanted. I'm maining this dude regardless he's too fun.
What about Tekken 4 Lee on Arena stage though? Kek
As a Josie Main i seriously wondered what's the point of still playing this game? There is litterally my main in stronger. Still today you can just make a video about fakh and josie similar moves that will just show fakh have everything or almost in better.
I feel ya. 😔
Fariboz tested release fahkumram
The crazy dam in t7 is kazumis ws 3
I wasn't playing a ton when Fahkumram dropped so I didn't see a lot of launch Fahk. I did follow some videos of when he came out but I don't remember specific things besides the "ghost legs" effect from his strongest period. I remember more of what happened when they started nerfing him.
I think they had more to work with when nerfing him compared to Leroy but he's still really powerful. His lows are tough to read but, in fairness, so are Josie's.
I just didn't play against him. I'd plug or just let the match time out. I wasn't gonna deal with nonsense.
He's teaser Bruce Ervin
atleast now if u install the ancient ogre mod for him, hes the true god of fighting :D not like in tekken tag2 when he was god of sucking, go get the mod!
I didn't know Fahk got banned 😭
Also sidestep 4 was safe