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Jeffrey Combs the unsung hero of DS9. Just an absolute pro.
He's the hero of everything he touches
I think he might hold the record for most characters played in Star Trek. But I suppose that depends on if imagined characters, and if each Weyoun clone in fact counts as a different character.
@@GhostLink92 I think a good compromise is to count Good Weyoun as a separate character but the rest as a continuation of the same character.
Especially since he's the only one on screen (kind of) with Evil Weyoun at the same time :P
"Voyager turned the corner into a ditch..."
Who let Janeway drive, anyways?
or worse, ensign kim.
Well, a bunch of the writers left TNG for Ds9; the good ones I should say. All the shit writers AFTER TNG went to VOY, but once DS9 was done, VOY picked up, why? The good writers from DS9 needed something to do :D
She smelled the Starbucks...
@@IRMentatI'm still mad about the fact that they didn't kill off Harry Kim because Garrett Wang got on the 50 most beautiful people list. If it wasn't for that, we would have had no Harry Kim and we would have had both 7 of 9 and Kes
Ok, Ok, I had a LULZ for the joke like everyone else, but I'm in a magnanimous mood today. I don't think Voyager actually ditched itself that badly, especially not after STD. I'd even go so far as to say it had more than its share of moments after it entirely got rid of the character of Kes, which took 2 seasons too many and then they brought her back for a one-off "wrap up" storyline which the Audience was better off without, anyway.
As with many other ST series, Voyager's best features are its characters. Unlike DS9, though, Voyager apparently lacked the good sense to use as many of the supporting guest stars to their full potential. 2 episodes for Brad Dourif, as an example, was not enough.
I'll be voting for the Doctor, Tuvok, and Seven of Nine as the best reasons to watch Voyager. And as a kicker, I guarantee that the show runners knew they should have put Seven into a standard Starfleet uniform before seasons 6 and 7, and way more often.
The Quickening was amazing. Realizing losing the Dominion War could literally be a fate worse than death was chilling. The optimistic, arrogant and heroic Dr Bashir slowly being defeated made it all the more terrifying
And then it was topped off with the bittersweet compromise victory at the end where the next generation would be cured but they still couldn't do anything for the current victims. The scene where he tells her the baby doesn't have the blight literally the second before she dies always stuck with me. You can see the look of relief and even happiness on her face right before she goes because she knows at least her child doesn't have it.
Show the Dominion being truly evil. They would either destory you culture to control you slowly (like leftist globalist cult) or fighting back, punish you for a fate worst than death.
I wish the Federation in DS9 had lost the Dominion war.
@@Infernal460why?
@@Infernal460 Edgelord 3000 🤣
Root beer conversation may have been the best back and forth in the history of Star Trek
I thought it was rather insidious myself.
@@TheRealNormanBates It's vile
@@kabulykos Just like the Federation.
DS9 is tha best Star Trek series, period.....
"The Visitor" is probably my favorite episode of DS9.
The Way Of The Warrior was such a badass opener. It was better to watch as a movie, than half of the Star Trek movies.
The mirror universe was just an opportunity to get Kira in some hot leathers.
I never complained about that personally.
@@Erick_Bloodaxe
Definitely not a complaint, actually a ringing endorsement. She was yummy.
@@camerongunn7906 Yes she was. She's still not bad looking for her age either.
The plot twist with Mexican Congressional Alien. It is made of paper mache.
For The Cause is the beginning of Sisko's descent into darkness (no pun intended). Without For The Cause, there can be no For The Uniform or In The Pale Moonlight.
DS9 is the best Trek it has the greatest protagonist Gul Dukat
Dukat really is one of the best villains in the history of TV. The falls and redemption arcs made him feel so relatable.
Say Sike Right Now
Yes more DS9 content.
😂 wasted
Worf was the character that barrels fall on…
The Visitor always makes my cry so afterwards I go to talk to my dad and then quickly realize why we don't hang out, it's a vicious cycle.
That's hilarious
Federation: we respect ever alien culture.
Wolf: practice his culture with his bother.
Federation: How dare you!
Wolf instead set his bother to a fate worse than death from Bashir horror lab.
Federation: true humanitarian.
Babylon 5 take lead to actual show the horror of permently easing one memory.
Hate Son of morgh episode.
Worf’s brother was an awesome character too. Teaching Worf about Klingons, I love the scene he saves his brother’s life because Worf didn’t notice the other Klingon.
3 was good. 4 and 5 were just crushing seasons of power.
Plus Worf adding so much dynamic and having such a character development that just draws you in on a different level.
"Rejoined" does the Trill dirty and the DS9 writers never really made up for it until Season 7.
The Chad DS9 vs the Virgin Voyager.
DS9: Star Trek as written by dudes with a little more depth than space hippies with a fleet.
That's why I love it.
It has much the same grit as Undiscovered Country, where we see that not all of Starfleet (even in the highest echelons) are pure, strong hearted, peaceful explorers. And the Federation ideals often meet unmovable walls of hard reality.
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Deep Space 9 is an absolute masterpiece. There was so many aspects it explored. Religion, War, PTSD, Geoncide, Family. It was populated with strong well written characters brought to life by an AMAZING group of actors with Avery Brooks leading the way. Ill never be able to praise it enought for breaking the mold of startrek and elevating it story telling to entirely new levels
My favorite line of the season is when O'Brian is about to go kick some ass with Jeffrey combs and the space lizards and he goes "I'm miles O'Brian and I'd like to comeback alive".
I also love to air guitar to the outtro like an idiot.
Season 3 turns the corner and starts climbing. Season 4 hits the treeline and is getting pretty high up there.
DS9 went from really good to great. No caveats.
As a Trek fan, I wasn't all that invested in DS9, back when it was on tv. I'd catch an episode here and there, but I never got into it.
Then, one Christmas, I got the DS9 boxset on dvd; and I sat down to watch it. The first couple of seasons were kinda MEH, but it really got good around S4 onwards.
DS9 is top-tier Star Trek. 🙂😁
I would own more dvds if their prices weren’t absolutely bullshit.
The writing on this show was incredible.
Season 4 of DS9 has some of the best trek available. Including quite possibly the most emotionally potent episode of all trek right along with TNG's "Inner Light", and my personal favorite, DS9 season 4, episode 2, "The Visitor".
I absolutely agree. Both of those episodes take a similar premise and knock it out of the park. They both play on their respective character's emotional cores: Picard's deep need for a family (which is appropriately emphasized again in Generations, and Picard S3) , and Jake's deep, deep love for his father.
The Inner Light, Duet, and The Visitor are my favorite Trek episodes of all time.
@@malachai1381also some of the most beautiful musical compositions composed for the franchise ever.
Get ahold of the 30th Anniversary music album. Orchestral Suite for The Inner Light, and the orchestral theme for The Visitor are both featured.
I remember being a young punk kid in the 90's and my mum worked with a guy who had all of DS9 on VHS and he would lend me a couple at a time I swear I nearly wore the "Way of the Warrior" one out. I watched it so many times. Almost without fail every Friday for half a year. It was amazing. The BBC would show DS9 on BBC2 on Thursday night (i think) and I was able to start watching through quicker than they were on TV as the BBC were a few years behind.
The only other thing that had come close up till that point was in "The Die is Cast" when Odo and Garak are trying to escape the fleet in the Runabout and the Defiant swoops in and blasts the Jem-Had-Dar ships to pieces and saves them. I was so pumped my mum came into the front room to ask what was going on and she couldn't understand what the fuss was about.
God i've missed these. Razor, your film noir and 80s films are my top, love this as well
I was watching DS9 when this season was first airing. And I remember at the time that I thought that this season and the introduction of Worf really made the show hit it's stride and become my favorite ST show.
Having now rewatched the series as an adult, seasons 1-3 still really hold up, but season 4 is still special. It often felt like seasons 1-3 was the show trying to find it's unique voice separate from the other shows, and that really happened in 4.
I think it is worth noting that DS9 was basically the red-headed step child of the ST showrunners. TNG was the legacy show, and Voyager was supposed to be the cool new show and DS9 was often an afterthought. But all that lead to a certain independence for the writers that allowed them to explore territory that other shows just didn’t
TOS had many of its best episodes in the first season, TNG has season 5, ENT has season 3, and Voyager has...scattered good episodes. But for my money, DS9 season 4 surpasses them all. I mean, the first two episodes are The Way of the Warrior and The Visitor, two of the very best in all of Star Trek. You get O'Brien's best episode in Hard Time. The Quickening has a case for being the best Bashir episode. And some of the best Ferengi episodes in Little Green Men and Body Parts (which has my favorite ending of the entire series). Not to mention the perfect Odo and Quark moment from Crossfire. And there's so much more.
I dunno. Magnificent Ferengi in later seasons (I forget which) is also absolutely phenomenal as a Ferengi episode. As is the episode where Quark pulls a Mrs Doubtfire.
I was always a fan of the maquis storylines, particularly when Gul Dukat was involved. One of the best villians? ever.
DS9 makes me so nostalgic. Pre 9/11. Pre cellphone. Pre social media. In 99 or 2000, they ran reruns in my local market every night after Letterman. I watched every episode multiple times, like a nightly bed time story.
IMO, DS9 was THE best Trek series because it WASN'T all unicorns and rainbows and how perfect the Federation is. It was raw, gritty, real & things didn't always go well, but they persevered and ultimately won. Sisko is a badass. Garak is the best character in Trek - period. And I would argue that ITPM (ok, S6) may be the best episode of not just DS9, not just Trek, but of Television.
Except most of the issues are complete bullshit. You have unlimited free energy and replicators to replicate everything. Like, holy shit. What fucking problems can you idiots have? You wanted to live on the frontier, now you do, and EVERYTHING you need or want can be replicated.
I bet you found it believable when Romulus blew up, and the romulans STAR EMPIRE needed help to relocate people from one planet around one star in a STAR EMPIRE
If a writers strike happened during DS9, people would have given a shit
Our man Bashir is awesome beyond belief. It is better James Bond than all if Daniel Craig
After years of loving TNG the most... I re-watched Deep Space 9. I love this show.
Way of the Warrior, my favorite episode, it had everything in 1.
Rom is Space Trudeau!
The Quickening was the first episode I ever watched of the show and it drew me in. What an introduction for me
I really need to watch through TNG and DS9 again.
I need to watch DS9. Not again, not rewatch, I just need to buckle down and watch the show. I have seen episodes and I've liked them all and loved the characters, but I've never taken the time to just sit down and watch.
do it, I don't think its possible to dislike it. the start is a little rough (like every trek show) but by the end its incredible.@@matthewschwer6048
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@@murdockberk8888 lmao im a pirate no way am i doing pay or ads.
A friend of mine and fellow ST fan and had a conversation about this. My conclusion was "this was where DS9 officially became the fucking 'Worf and Martok Happy Bloodbath Funtime Show.' LOL Absolutely right about the Klingons here.
I love the DS9 content, it makes my favourite Trek even better.
Worf has entered the chat.
season 2 into 3 is where it caught fire for me. When they introduced the Jem Hadar.
Nice breakdown but I didn't see Colm Meaney in your credits. Remember: No O'Brien, No DS9.
DS9 never saw a corner. It was on a drag strip and dusted everybody.
Great video. It takes me back to the good ol days.
Blue Beard: "Rejoined. We could've done better. We _should've_ done better."
Captain Fist: "Yeah. No fucking shit you should've! This episode sucks!"
Hell yes, been waiting for some more Razor DS9 content.
Excellent top picks Gents! I can't think of better people to review my favorite Trek series. Every DS9 drop from this channel is total hype and instant click from me!
When The Sisko shaved his head, it was on!
My favourite Star Trek show.
Oh wow, Star Trek had a same-sex kiss. Didn't even hear about that (or remember seeing this episode) but be damm sure Chairman Kennedy and her Lucasfilm cronies wouldn't shut up about their same-sex kiss in Last Jedi...which they edited out for Chinese audiences of course. Avery really was a class act, sadly now an extinct breed in Hollyweird.
Reminded time and time again why Avery Brookes is a GOAT
completely agree DS9 is really good right off the bat!
I can’t wait until you get to season 5, possibly my favorite season
Wait, I didn’t think we were allowed nice things any more, how are we getting such depths goodness?
I didn’t say stop!
And as good as it is not a single episode has what the amazing Season 5 premier has: *Klingon Sisko*
it also has the 2nd best Gowron moment
And one of the most memeable lines EVER: Glory to you, and your hoooooouuuuuuse.
I don't if you mentioned it in the individual reviews but I've thought the romantic relationship between Kira and Odo made less sense the more I thought about it. As a kid I found it believable but thinking more on how Odo is a liquid, shapeshifting entity, his falling in love with Kira seems rather odd. It would be like Sisko falling in love with and octopus.
A romance between Odo and Dax actually makes more sense as both are essentially 'timeless' beings and Jadzia's death and Enzi entry would have been more poignant due to the bar on reassociation and whether Enzi would be willing to forsake her own people as Odo did with his, even though it would condemn the symbiont to death and break Odo's 'heart' all over again. Kira would have been just fine paired off with Worf or even Damar (but not Dukat, as that would have been jumping the shark).
@@blitzerblazinoah6838 Kira and Damar would have been interesting...
A weakness of "Rejoined" is that it turns the DS9 conception of Trills on its head. Dax seems to be dominating Jadzia's desires rather than the host being the part of the symbiosis "driving" as it were. The idea that this the love of Jadzia's life, rather than Dax's nostalgia is probably why the Trill have rules against renewing past romantic entanglements with other symbionts in the first place.
As to Rejoined - I can say you could argue the merits of the idea of pining for what might have been... but that's what it is. And what it obviously stayed afterward. In the argument Avery made (which don't get me wrong his views are insightful and respectful to the core of the issue, as fuck) wherein they had been seperated for 150 years... the KEY point IS that they were seperated for 150 years. In all of that time, they would exceptionally likely have grown down any number of varied paths, as distinctly different people to who they'd been that the two of them fell individually in love with at the start. Even IF you could reconnect; there's no guarantee that who either of them became would at all gel with who the other was now. Compared to who they'd been at the time they were together. It's a concept of two ships passing, and ne'er to truly meet the same again. Argue the physical chemistry in that kiss for closure all you like (It's Terry Feral and depending on views, she could have at that time had chemistry with a doorknob as far as I'm concerned) but the core of the issue being they are fundamentally different people. At different stages in their lives. Arguing that they could have gotten together again by different choices is the same one that Stephanie Myers presented in Twilight. Wherein Juliet could and perhaps should have chosen Paris instead of Romeo. It doesn't matter, and it's circular to the point of moronic to try to make that argument. She didn't and she never would. That's the point in "Star-Crossed." [Yes, I realize I just admitted I read Twilight. No, I'm not proud of it, and I do in fact think it hurt my brain...]
It doesn't matter how well shot, well directed or well intended the episode might have been: The crux of it did not need to happen - and if Dax was previously involved on the station, you'd think that's a complication she would just ignore for what it could cost. But maybe that's just me.
Yeeeesssa!!! In with the razzle dazzle! Been waiting for this for so long I had lost hope
The way Worf is seamlessly folded into the already established and ongoing DS9 saga without missing a beat is masterful. I've made the argument to friends that Worf feels more like he belongs in the more morally ambiguous world of DS9, than he does as the rulebook loving officious security chief aboard the Federation flagship, and if he'd joined the show at the start alongside O'Brien, it would still have been a perfect fit.
do my eyes deceive me? an updated Depths intro? lovely! what a way to start monday!
Season 4 is when D9 thought they needed to fix the theme tune by adding the obnoxious synth pulse as a rhythmic backbone to what was originally a brilliant free form arrangement.
I genuinely think this is the peak. Sure, there were some outstanding episodes yet to come, but as a season, this was the best in my humble opinion.
I'm know I'm going to enjoy this video before it starts
BEST episodes of TNG: Code of Honor. DS9: Move Along Home. VOY: Threshold. I'll have fisticuffs with anyone who disagrees.
Jeffery Combs/Brunt was the best thing about Bar Association
Season 4 was incredible.
HELL yeah! This is my favorite series of yours, oddly enough.
REJOINED should have pulled in the wormhole aliens, which could than have involved flashbacks.
The return of Captain Fist
Avery Brooks is an absolute loon, but Sisko is the best captain Star Trek ever had.
Straight facts
I started watching DS9 a few months ago. I'm up to season 4, episode 21. I like the show. Some hits and some misses, but generally an interesting watch.
Rules of Engagement makes me think being in Starfleet would suck. Starfleet actually entertained the idea of turning Worf over to the Klingons for blowing up a Klingon civilian freighter, even though the Klingons engaged the Defiant while it was protecting a Cardassian vessel. What the hell? So they're willing to turn over one of their most renown officers because an adversary says he did a no-no?
Edited, in addition: I remember another episode, Tribunal, from season 2. O'Brien is arrested by the Cardassians and put on a show trial. Why didn't Starfleet demand his immediate release and move to an aggressive posture? A rival empire kidnaps one of your officers in neutral space and puts him on trial and all you do is go along with their game?
Edited, another addition: I forgot about Hard Time. Another example of Starfleet letting an outside force punish one of their officers.
Starfleet is a terrible organization to work for. They won't come to defend you, even if an enemy of the Federation comes after you.
Too bad the big wigs didn't want to restore DS9. They transferred the film to videotape and did the effects and editing. On Netflix it didn't look good.
This is trek as it should be
Miss you doing all your "Depths of" on the old UA-cam brother.Either way,still great insight and breakdown of the best Trek.
Thanks for introducing this series to me. I watched TNG all the way through and had this on my list to watch but I never got around to it till you starting making vids for it. Matter of fact it's high time for a rewatch.
Eddington is a fantastic characters who changed the franchise.
i watched the whole series in 2022, show holds up so well, the things that dont, really dont, but they are few and far between., i hadnt watched since well the 90's so it was really a ride to remember, ill watch it again in 2030 lol
Oh shit, it's back baby.
I remember watching this as it was released. So good, why can't we do this again?
The world that produced these great works no longer exists
I say the same about Farscape
Because wokeness requires not actually examining multiple viewpoints.
The Orville is actually bucking that trend, but it remains to be seen if that'll continue to be made. We're a full year after S3 and still no word on a renewal.
1:04 Gotta politely disagree, ""Scorpion"" was the moment Voyager turned it around. The writing got much tighter and they finally had the crew facing some genuine deep space terrors.
DS9 is pinnacle Star Trek. I wish they'd revisit DS9 like Picard revisited the TNG cast. Seeing the return of Sisko would be bad ass. I rewatch this series once a year. I wish they'd remaster the show like they did with TNG
I really like the courtroom episod I always thought that there should have been a Starfleet Jag series
Strange New Worlds did a good courtroom episode this past season, and TNG also had a decent courtroom episode as well.
But I think DS9's courtroom ep is the best still.
Klingon lawyer pulling off being a professional shark while still being a warrior at heart was fun to watch, especially when Sisko skewers him on the stand.
@@SirBrass like what you like good sir but I have no regard for anything Alex kurtzman or Damon lindelof produces i thank you for the suggestion but I find most if not all of the new Trek shows unwatchable
Really? You missed your chance to have Jim Sterling floating in the void in that opening? Shame...
The void of space is too large an audience for Jim Sterling.
Them dropping the Dianna romance was the worse. I loved that storyline, it was perfect for him, and a whole story about her helping him course correct with his son would have been an awesome background story that could have appeared on and off through the following season.
Love this series. Great work Razorfist!
Ben Sisko is a Tour Da Force.
... where is that damn lotion ...
5:40 -- RE: DS9's Contributions to the whole Canon; The best example, of course, are the Ferengi. If it wasn't for DS9 there could have never been fans who were eager and willing to LARP as Ferengi. If I need the best canonical examples of why the Ferengi really did end up being "Yankee Traders", I'd look no further than DS9 and obviously Roddenberry didn't fix those.
RE: The Mirror Universe; This is a wickedly large topic, much larger than 1 episode in TOS might indicate. In the interest of being laconic, suffice it to say that DS9's Mirror Universe episodes are interesting and fun in a lot of ways but also ultimately unsatisfying in many others. The best details of why it works are in how it can casually kill or resurrect characters for dramatic effect, culminating in the best line of all: "Julian just killed Vic Fontaine!" - Quark.
And why is Vic Fontaine *real* on the other side of the Mirror? (A: Trick question! Has an obvious answer which will explain where the "Mirror Universe" episodes are located in TNG as well.)
22:40 -- RE: The Contributions of Avery Brooks; Personally I think the Suited Executives, the Show Runners, and those of the cast who had the professional chops like Avery dropped the ball on the "Old Man" concept of Dax most of the series. "Old Man" should have been the name of the Federation Project or Group in which a long-lived entity like Dax could be an essential component. Make no mistake, the "Old Man" is completely integral to the on-going narrative of how Sisko relates to (and is related to) the Wormhole Aliens. If Sisko is the D6, then Old Man Dax is who throws it.
So where is that in the narrative between the Trillesbians? Seems funny to me that "Old Man" Curzon Dax doesn't have more input with Jadzia, in other words.
30:52 -- RE: Little Green Men; This is my pick for second best of the entire series, with "Far Beyond the Stars" taking first place.
God bless your noble works.
ive been waiting for you to get back to your DS9 reviews Razor.
Yooooo! He's back! Been missing the DS9 content you started.
Thank you for this, and more of these please...had to add that to what I pray is many saying the same
Waiting for the Voyager series
Ew
Thank god I'm not the only one that remembers the poseidon adventure.
I would love some Voyager content too. My brother and I watched entire marathons of that show when we were young. It was good.
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Deep Space Nine became my favorite series as I matured. The Next Generation held that title till my mid 20's.