How To Edit Electric Guitars!
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
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0:00 - Intro
1:07 - Identifying the transient
04:04 - Slip editing VS Warping
10:39 - Recap
11:04 - Outro
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I’m literally reamping guitars and editing DIs right now. I’m so happy you’re doing this video. I’m sending it out to all of my queued clients right now.
Hopefully it helps them get a quick grasp on it!
-Miami
This video is the fastest I've ever subscribed to a channel. Thank you for being on UA-cam!
Studio ones slip editing is amazing quick and easy
Always love the content ! There’s so much so I don’t know if you’ve done it but maybe a whole editing series ? Always love Miami ! 🖤🤘🏻
This channel is so damn useful. I had been under the illusion that I wouldn't suffer phase issues by having two different guitar tracks but that just simply isn't how sound works. Thanks Miami!
Of course, Steven! Anytime!
-Miami
Thanks for explaining this Miami. I started doing slip editing in Reaper because of you guys and it's leveled up my mixing so much. You all at JST are making the world a more enjoyable place and giving old metalheads like me new life in music. Also, I saw someone was interested in Bass DI below. I too would be interested in your advice on 64th note editing for tremolo picking.
I’ll be doing this for lead guitars in a separate episode, as well as bass
-Miami
@@joeymusic Bass would be great, it seems to be much trickier to find the transients!
Great video Miami! I was already doing it that way but it felt good to double check with a pro that I'm not alone in going through such painful editing 😂 I use Reaper and in terms of sound I prefer slip editing whereas the warp method is less time consuming (at least for me). Cheers!
!!!!!!! TY!!! I love watching stuff like this. I mean i already know how to edit alright but for some reason i believe you can always learn something new even from videos the cover topics that seem basic. TY!
Thanks for tuning in! Hope I keep putting out stuff you want to see
-Miami
This came at the right time!
I've always wanted to dive into Reamping, but I was always confused on routing through reaper. So this was a MUCH needed video! Could you also show us how to use Pedals as outboard effects? No one ever dives into how to actually plug it all in!
Yes! I’m def down to make that vid!
-Miami
I’d like to see some slip editing tips for editing DI Bass when it’s tuned low (A 0) and played fast. I sometimes end up with weird “lumpy” sounding edits where I can’t identify the source of the mystery-transient.
Great video!
I’m into it! I’ll do it soon
-Miami
Editing guitars seems to be something basic and easy, fact is most people makes a lot of mistakes on the "basics" of mixing. Really cool video!
Great video and great tips Miami! Thank you so much! Do you have videos on drums editing?
Not yet but it’s coming up soon!
-Miami
Helpful. Thank you
Anytime! Anything else you’re interested in seeing?
-Miami
I'm primarily a guitar player so I appreciate this.
Glad to be of use, Marc!
-Miami
I always felt editing right to the grid was overkill, but I didn't know about the phase issues that can come with that.
the video i wanted, and needed
You don't know how much I wish we had that level of slip editing in Pro Tools, being able to move the wave freely inside the audio clip would be fantastic. Even tho, I use both techniques on protools, both are absolutely usefull! I love editing guitars! 😁
Dude I would prob just use pro tools at that point for editing if it was possible
-Miami
Great vid 🔥
Glad you enjoyed it!
-Miami
My intro to music was Joey's creative live, so seeing a channel with his name on it advocate for warping is blowing my mind rn
Warping algorithms have improved drastically in the time since the filming of those courses.
cubase has multitrack phase coherent warping now. total game changer and time saver
I did not know this! Gotta check it out soon
-Miami
On Reaper, you can press Shift+Up to make the waveform taller/bigger without boosting the volume.
Dope hot key! Literally didn’t know that one
-Miami
Great video! But a suggestion for future videos. Could you start recording your cursor on your screen capture segments?
I totally can, sorry about that
-Miami
Thanks
Anytime my friend!
-Miami
I'm also wondering if there is a quicker way to edit tremolo picking, for basses and guitars. That's A LOT of information to adjust if it's needed. Specially if it's for double tracked guitars, goodness.
So is the difference between Slip and Warp editing that with slip editing you 'slip' the audio around in the DAW by slightly changing its location, and with warp editing you 'warp' the audio by stretching it and making it longer by slowing its playback rate? Cant you do both of these things in the same song, in the same passage, in the same riff even? Slip some parts and warp others?
I use Reason and the warp editing is good. Would you suggest Reaper warped editing over Reason? I’m not sure if I should try it or if it would be a waste of time.
Thanks Miami! In Reaper how long are your crossfades? I mean when you chop the clip and you drag the audio backwards
Can someone edit the massive volume drops on the video next?
Awesome video Miami, really appreciate all your insight and knowledge you give us.
Question: I typically record my physical amp for my guitar stuff, but want to dabble in amp sims.
I've tried various Neural DSP plugins, and while they have some very cool features, my signal is constantly clipping, noisy, fizzy, and just not good, save for a few settings I like.
I'm sure I'm just missing or overlooking something, but I haven't found a good solution.
It would be very cash money of you if you could touch on this subject a bit.
Thanks man!
Are you using the standalone or vst? If you have a scarlett, turn off direct monitoring and turn down your instrument gain. For whatever reason direct monitoring and setting the gain knob to 1/4th was too much on my solo gen 3. It sounds samplerate related. I'm also going to assume you've increased your buffer rate? Have you made sure your DAW sr matches your interface? You could try turning off audio exclusivity for your device via control panel. While you're there you can check to make sure the sr matches. If its none of those, its probably hardware related. Be it your cable, pickups, interface or the computer itself.
Philip, sounds like a problem I had with a Presonus interface. Though the interface had 2 jacks that I could plug my guitar into (in the center of 2 mic inputs), they weren't actually made for instruments. I just assumed that they were for guitars, but they were actually for mics that have a 1/4 jack insert. So no matter far down I turned the input gain on the interface, the guitars would still show up in my DAW as red-hot, clipping. I actually had to adjust the pickups on my guitar and back them away from the strings so that the incoming signal stayed below clipping. Really killed the sustain on my leads.
But all that said, I used it for a couple years and then bought an Audient iD4; an interface that specifies that it has an "instrument input". It actually has a guitar symbol printed above the jack on the interface. And that "instrument input" is specially designed for guitar signals which run hotter than mic information. I was able to readjust my pickups on my guitar; and I'm able to use the gain volume on the interface for the guitar, boosting the incoming signal or cutting it back; but it works as it should now.
Hope something in there helps, or at least you figure out something!
I’ll keep this in mind for a future episode, Philip, but an example would make it easier for me to understand what your issue is
-Miami
How are you sliding the tracks around without dragging them? I think it was what you were calling slip editing?
Never thought of cutting the low end information out seems way easier on the eyes. After doing this can you edit the track without low end then revert it back? Or do you just have to use it as a reference and go back and forth? Thanks Miami!
You have to use it as a reference 😩
-Miami
@@joeymusic total bummer!
@@joeymusic can't you group them and edit from the EQ'd track?
Miami, how to deal with string buzz that comes through the DI? Or a better question: how much string buzz is "acceptable" on DI recordings? Even properly setup guitars produce some buzz when playing hard and I wonder if worrying too much about it is actually worth it in the context of distorted tones.
Thanks for the video idea, I’ll throw it in the queue
-Miami
@victor Salciotti
It's something simple:
1) If the buzz is not audible in distorted tone, then obviously it is not a problem.
2) If you use strings without adequate tension with low tunings, in addition to an aggressive picking hand technique, with a thick pick, you will always have tuning and buzz problems.
It is best to have a medium pick attack, there is no benefit in savagely destroying the strings, with the lie that they have always sold us of "BEST TONE" if it is done that way, on the contrary, there are more disadvantages than benefits . Cheers.
Oddly i can slip edit in pro tools 🤔and sounds great
I just cut the section where theres an issue then move it and i can get back the transient before and blend it and feels fluent
That’s one way of doing it but it always feels cumbersome to me when going at it that way
-Miami
Just to clarify.. you only use the eq’d DI to help identify the transients. Then I guess you somehow relay those markers to the original DI. Ho do you do that? I’m in Logic so maybe it’s different but I don’t believe you can overlay transient markers from on track to another. I hope I’m wrong! Als, do you always keep the sim on when editing? I tend to just listen to the DI and a click but I could see having the final sound a your reference to be beneficial.
You literally just group it. Anything that affects one track will affect the other
-Miami
What theme do you use in reaper?
A ha, So you've been Ben Bruce, I knew you're the same person!
I knew someone would eventually figure it out
-Miami
btw, i'm brazillian, and here in brazil we don't have lots of usefull content like these, i can understand what you guys are talking about and i think that your content is fantastic, but this is not a english fluent speaking country, it would be very very awesome if you guys put some portuguese and spanish subtitles, people would really watch your videos from here
It's so surprising seeing this man interested so much into metal music
Why is that?
@@joeymusic I just never seen that, and i very much support that!
@@joeymusiche means a black dude lmfao
Let me know if I correctly understood. If I edit both left and right guitars to the grid It will sound robotic, narrow and phasy. So, can I leave the left guitar to the grid and move the events in the right track just a little to avoid this? Thank you Miami, you are great teacher!
Yes you can! But what this typically does is force you to stretch the right guitar more than the left one. And you have to find a pattern of it going before and after the grid to have it make sense
-Miami
@@joeymusic Thank you, but why is the right guitar stretched more than the right one?
@@gonzalomartinezdevelasco7077 as he said, it has to be a little before and after grid in a pattern to sound natural if one track is on the grid. So the combo of before and after will require more stretching
Note the huge sound drop around 3:00
Same. All the examples are way lower in volume.
dude, what's up with these volume/level jumps?
7:27 So, do I understand you to say that we SHOULD NOT go through and line up all the transients too precisely because it will cause thinness and phase issues?
That is correct
-Miami
Bro you’re like the Dr.Seuess of audio engineering
more reaper tutorials pls
quick question if i only have an interface and i use a amp sim would i still need a DI box?
No, with current interfaces like a scarlett 2i2 for just 170 bucks or similar, you don't need any DI Box to get a good guitar tone with amp sims
@@butcher_0392 but if I was to use a real amp then I would need a DI box for the best results or at least get a clean signal so I could reamp later
I always suggest a di box when using low budget interfaces
-Miami
Bro thank you
how to record guitars? interface? amp? mic? condenser or dinamic? strat, les paul or tele? record with or without distortion? what pickup should i choose for what kind of genre? how to get that funky timber? how to get that neo soul shiny sonority? is amplitube a good plugin? or guitar rig 5? what are professionals using these days? i have a lot of questions about guitars lol it would be fantastic to see you guys talking more about it
😊
How bout edit vocals?
That one’s coming soon
-Miami
cant you slip edit in pro tools? I'm main reaperbut we use pro tools in college
Technically you can but it’s locked to samples, so it’s not technically the same as floating point slip editing.
Wait a minute...did your transition game level down Miami 😲🤔
Never! Just gotta let everyone miss it for a bit
-Miami
Great video as always but your voice is too low when you're in the DAW
I’ll make sure to double check that for next time
-Miami
Very useful information and tips but your examples are waaaay quiet compared to your explanations in this video. I found myself having to crank my monitor volume for the examples and turn it back down before you talk again.
If we were at the middle age, this content might be considered witchcraft dude!
Haha so true
-Miami
Don't like stratching, it really corrupt the sound.
Most of the time it bothers me, ngl
-Miami
JST EQ????
WTF YO WHERE IS THAT
Coming soon!
-Miami
I'm a noob when it comes to actually using a DAW. Instructions on how to actually do what you did would have been useful.