"Scars on the back are a swordsman's shame" takes a different meaning when it's Shiryu you're fighting, doesn't it? When Zoro said that the first time, he was speaking of his own shame at losing to Mihawk. But if (when) he fights Shiryu, it's gonna be Shiryu's shame at never being able to face his opponents head on, and relying on cheap tricks and ambush to fight.
Didn’t mean to sht to Emperor Buggy-sama 🥱 that’s the real reason Mihawk will work under Buggy cause even Mihawk didn’t scar Zoro in his back while Buggy was able to do so in Chapter 11😂😂
the whole 'swordsman shame' thing has never made sense to me tbh. what about sneak attacks, random hits when your caught off guard etc. having wounds in your back only meaning cause you ran away, has never made a single bit of sense. but it sounded badass, so everyone kinda ran with it lol
Zoro is what a real Man represents…the pure dominant and protective nature…would you run with your back if you had family ? No…but the ignorant kids of the modern world would not understand…RASHOMON
You have now justified Shiryu’s existence to me. Having Zoro struggle with him and then need to develop better observation Haki in order to overcome that fight because, “If I can’t beat you there’s no chance in hell I’ll beat Mihawk,” would be fantastic development for him. Especially if Mihawk is right there and pushes him to his very limits later on the same day during the war at Laugh Tale.
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if Shiryu or Nusjoro’s fight is where Zoro finally develops future sight, as the 2nd in command of the pirate king it’s only fair he has it
@@DarkCreedNinja I think Oda has other plans with BB 🤔 like maybe his crew will be defeated before finding the one piece but he gets to sit at the empty throne
I just hope Luffy and maybe Sanji watch Zoro vs Mihawk. That way Luffy could see Zoro come full circle and Sanji too since watching Zoro chase his dream is one of the first things Sanji did in the series
This is the only answer. No matter what, Zoro can't rematch Mihawk without Luffy and the others watching. They have to witness his victory after seeing his loss.
It's always funny to me how Zoro is a better gauge for future groups that the Strawhats will fight, simply because he always without fail fights swordsmen. As soon as a character pulls out a sword you just know for a fact that they'll fight Zoro, and hence the people near them will fight Luffy and other Strawhats. It's also why I'm still confident that if Luffy and Shanks' crews "fight" each other it will be something unconventional like a Davy Back fight, because aside from Shanks himself they don't actually have a dedicated sword fighter.
Now that Luffy and Zoro have their fights on the horizon, would you consider making a similar analysis for Sanji's upcoming fights too? It only makes sense haha
If the Davy Back fight does happen with Shanks on Elbaph, I could see that be a natural tie-in for Cross Guild, as it gives Buggy a chance to compete evenly against Shanks and Luffy, while also being a great place for Zoro vs Mihawk
I'm surprised that there's no speculation about about Zorro potentially fighting Garling. Also side note I've always felt like Zoros fight with mihawk would either be third or second to last. Simply because in my opinion I think it would be cool for there to be a period of time where he reigns as the strongest Swordsman and goes into other battles as such. Similar to Luffy not being King of the Pirates at the very end of the series but after finding the one piece he becomes king of the Pirates and then as king of the Pirates faces off against the the likes of Imu
I think Luffy, in his final fight against Imu and the world government, will need the Worlds Strongest Swordsman to defeat them. Hence, Zoro will have to defeat Mihawk before that final fight
@@mrkee5803 exactly also I get flack for this but I've said maybe mihawk is only the strongest known Swordsman we've seen Time and time again that a lot of One Piece rumors titles and such are subject to bias or perception. I wouldn't be shocked if the strongest person was actually in mariejoie or space or some shit but they just never revealed themselves. Also I'm curious about how the seraphim when they eventually hit 100% stack up to their original counterparts. I will s hawk actually exceed mihawk
@@OtakuTalkOD, what you said makes no sense. Mihawk can't be "the strongest swoedsman we've seen" because we haven't seen anything from him. He's never once been in a serious fight nor has he used any named attack. Oda is going out of his way to not have Mihawk show what makes him the strongest yet. Almost 3 decades and still nothing should make that obvious. Same goes for characters like Dragon. S-Hawk will not and cannot surpass Mihawk. I have no idea how people don't see this. S-Hawk will be a hype tool to show that you can't simply replicate skills and experience in a lab. That's far better thematically and adds weight to Zoro's title than S-Hawk simply being stronger just for the sake of it.
@@Shark-hn4mv I dotn see how any of that at all invalidated anything I said and we have seen shit from mihawk just nothing drawn out against top level. We rarely see shanks but everytime its placed him at peak of the world and take a breath and calm down. its just speculation also Im not saying s hawk has to surpass miahwk but its very possible. Especially with japanese ideology of surpassing generations and the fact Vegapunk states they are undeniably human. Thematically and narrative wise id like it to be Mihawk too but im open to possibility of alternate narrative avenues.
Any final Zoro fight other than Mihawk would be lame. Nusjuro is never gonna surpass the anticipation and hype of Zoro vs Mihawk and the same goes for everybody else.
You do understand that If mihawk vs zoro doesn't happen before the final war then it's going to be in an epilougue, which means we won't see the fight, which is terrible in every way conceivable, right?
@@TheRanOfGodhow do yall think it’s more likely that Mihawk is secretly an ally of an 800-year long oppressive secret King (Imu), then just simply accepting the Mihawk fight will be before the final war?
To me it's pretty clear where Mihawk can slot perfectly: Case A: cross guild goes to Elbaf to get the road Poneglyph or something similar and we end up with a Davy back/3 way battle with the straw hats, red hair pirates and cross guild Case B: Road to Laugh tale, Cross guild appears as a surprise contender for the One Piece
@@AlindaGiduduthe crews take turns choosing what contest to fight in (actually maybe just one of the crews decided all contests) if you win one you can choose a crewmember of the other crew That’s all there is to it
The thing is, if Zoro fights Mihawk that "early," there would be no strong Subordinate or even opponent in general Left for Zoro aside from Maybe Nasujuro. or S-Hawk which is even less likely By defeating Mihawk, u basically leave Zoro without a Major fight till the final battle, since no one would be stronger than Mihawk And if that final fight is Nasujuro (A swordsman), it would make no sense if he struggles against him since narratively he should be weaker than Mihawk and if he isn't weaker, that just takes away from the 25year long built up Dream of Zoro and Matchup of Zoro vs Mihawk if that makes sense
Would love Zoro and Sanji vs Beckman and Lucky Roo if we get a Davy Back fight. Beckman and Roo have both been so central to Shanks' crew since the beginning that it'd be a shame not to see them both take part, and it'd be a great callback to the original Foxy pirates fight where Zoro and Sanji first had to work together. It seems the last chance in the story to get a duo fight out of them with a reason that gets them to have to work together actively. Plus, if the Davy Back fight will be three rounds like last time with Foxy, that leaves room for a father son sniper battle and a clash of the captains as the final round still.
Maybe a 3-way DBF featuring the Straw Hats, Red Hair Pirates & Cross Guild? The only problem I have with that is how Zoro & Mihawk have a genuine duel to decide who's the WGS
I’d be very interested in a video of the remaining characters Sanji will fight. Particularly because he’s the strawhat who doesn’t even crave power to meet his goals. But we know they will escalate from the enemies he’s fought before. Because right now other than Kizaru I can’t really tell who he’d be matched with.
@@Profitglutton90 No i'm talking about right now. 2v1 against kizaru in egghead. Obviously they'll be individually stronger than kizaru eos. But right now i think a 2v1 against an admiral won’t be that out of place.
Kizaru going through a moral dilemma right now doesn't necessarily mean he will switch sides .... Actually i rather him have the moral dilemma but still follow the wrong path... People making some bad decision for a change... Every character doesn't need a redemption arc.
Crossguild could come in while the Strawhats fight the Blackbeard pirates. If they intercept while Luffy and Blackbeard have their showdown it would come down to Zoro to neutralize the biggest threat which is Mihawk. By winning those fights Luffy and Zoro would also both fulfill their dream together. The only problem with that is this would be right after Zoros fight with Shiryu which means he wouldnt be at full strengh. Otherwise it would fit perfectly imo so maybe Oda somehow can make it work.
Something that could solve your timing issue for fighting Mihawk and the issue of not enough match ups in certain factions is the potential to see a battle royale between all four Yonko crews over one piece instead of a battle against just blackbeard. This would also likely set up Luffy to be there when/if Blackbeard kills Shanks.
I think everything is pointing at Cross Guilt being a plot device to make Zoro have the most relevant fight in a short arc against them, his final duel with Mihawk will be the highlight and most important event in that particular story and even Luffy will be just watching him just as he did in Baratie.
@@alp_altinok3828yeah I agree, people are hyping up ussop in elbaf. But I think that Zoro is also going to have a huge power up on Elbaf and lodestar and to be maybe he will fight Michael on lodestar or laugh tale
I personally like the theory that mihawk was part of the red hair pirates and a three way clash will take place. I also like the theory of buggy being stronger than anyone expected
The closer we get to the ending the more sure I am Buggy will actually be competing for the one piece on Laugh Tale. It would essentially be a 3 way fight so why couldn't it be the same for their vice captains. For damn near a decade theories have been made Shiryu will kill Mihawk. A 3 way battle with the swordsman would showcase Zoro being able to defeat mihawk and Shiryu. My headcanon is that Zoro would defeat Shiryu in the fight before mihawk does and then they go on to do a 1v1 Edit: Also gotta say I firmly believe that theory that Buggy awakening may be able to create nuclear bombs😅. If so then he definitely would be in contention for that pirate king duel. A god vs A Earthquake/Darkness man vs a walking Nuke 😮
Please don’t do a Sanji video on this topic , I don’t trust you with that Morj 😭🤝 Sure this video is banger tho Edit: Finished watching this video, as expected was a banger
Mihawk has ties to either Imu or the holy knights. His eyes, the engraved patterns on Yoru and his line when he went up against zoro „I’m not a Beast that hunts rabbits with a canon“, which could relate to the hunting games played on god valley. Even his style and manner seem to be fancy and eloquent. Mihawk has the very same eyes as imu btw. It’s am adaptation fault. His eyes I’m the manga are supposed to be red not yellow. So him having ties with the wg is quite possible. Maybe he once was a holy knight. Maybe that’s where he got to fight shanks. Maybe garling trained him. It always was strange to me how Mihawk sails alone with no crew all the time. He has to have been somewhere else before in a crew or most likely some sort of organisation. It doesn’t make any sense for him to have been alone his whole journey. What I mean is that he ist what ? 44 years old ? The Mihawk we see today is the retired Mihawk almost.
I think Ben Beckman makes sense as being next since it looks like the strawhats will go to Elbaf and Teach feels like a pre-laugh tale opponent, so I agree Shiryu is 2nd. But while Blackbeard and the Strawhats are at it, i think Buggy is going to be trucky and get the One Piece and become Pirate King, so against Buggy I think Luffy will acheive his first/known dream and Zoro will finally acheive his dream (or his first dream since he wants to be the best swordsman and right now he believes that is Mihawk so he has a dream of beating Mihawk (other Strawhats may achieve their dreams or initial stated dreams by this point). Then the battle with the marines and s-hawk makes sense (although we saw the mechanical shark have a will of its own so I cant help but wonder how that may play out with the Seraphim). Then the top of the world government. One fight we have not talked about is the potential for Garling. Now that may be a Shanks fight, but I think we should still look at it as a potential Zoro fight, but if Zoro only fights one Celestial Dragon then I agree the one with a kitetsu makes the most sense. But I feel like there being 9 God's Knights is likely significant in some way (and it is possible one of the Gorseli oversee the God's Knights ... but they may just be opponents for the revolutionary army as well or maybe even Fugitora could fight Figurland). I'm gonna say something crazy, but I can also see Sabo fighting Akainu. They both likely have conflicting ideals about justice, Akainu also took Sabo's brother, in Marinefold is was basically shown that magma trumps fire in a fight so it could be thematic if Sabo inhereted Ace's will with the devil fruit and overcomes that obsticle/counters that showing it is the person that makes the fruit powerful and not simply the fruit making the person powerful, and I don't think Luffy is the type to hold a geudge .... also assuming another strawhat beats Aokiji when they face the Balckbeard pirates, Akainu may not feel as threatening to Luffy after that so such a fight may lack tension which is not necessarily a bad think as the fight can still be very cathartic but the tension may not live up to the tension of the Strawhats vs the marines and world government (although who knows, maybe Luffy beats Akainu and changes his outlook on Justice and we then see the marines turn on the Celestial Dragons since Akainu does not seem to like them so much and that is when the Seraphim come into play). I think there is still a lot of mystery left in One Piece.
I think you're leveraging the idea of Luffy needing a big fight for the interaction with cross-guild is a bit heavy lol. OP still has gags and comedy driven moments. Luffy doesnt have to have a big fight against Buggy or even in an arc with him 😅
"One piece still has gags and comedy driven moment" Lmao, One Piece is full of gags and comedy more than ever, at this rate, Buggy and Luffy will have a comedy battle just like Kenjaku vs Takaba.
@@ericgonzalez4738 not sure honestly - I believe every major figure of CG will also be present in the final war. Whether or not they're still "cross guilds" at that time is up in the air, but I would assume so. I can see CG continuing, even if, say, Mihawk leaves, as a new entity for the new world. My assumption is that Koby gets major credit, even if most should go to Luffy (I think alluded/foreshadowed by the Wano arc of Luffy not wanting recognition). I believe Vivi will be the new face of the new era uniting countries, but not under "one rule" - but rather collective aid - more like a United Nations. Pirates will continue to exist, which means the Marines will still exist. If Marines still exist, I think CG still has a place.
My guess/bet/hope: During the final war, while Zoro is fighting S-Hawk, Mihawk is actually fighting Nusjuro. The fights are shown in parallel, with S-Hawk using the same moves as Mihawk but better. It concludes in Zoro winning and sparing S-Hawk, but Nusjuro kills Mihawk, and mocks him. Saying that the only reason a lowly human was allowed the title of strongest swordsman is because he, Nusjuro, is not a man, but a God. Then Zoro has to fight Nusjuro and avenge his former rival/master/secret idol. The reason the fights are paralleled is to show that Zoro was already stronger than Mihawk and now has to reclaim the title of strongest from Nusjuro.
I think we have an order something like this: Elbaf: Beckman (honestly this one doesnt really even feel like a MUST HAPPEN but would be cool) Fight for the One Piece: Mihawk, seems early but i think this makes the most sense as its the most logical place, where the all Yonko and their crew would be clashing for the finish line Fight for the One Piece pt2: Shiryu, seems like a big step down, but i think this will be Shiryu trying to come in once Zoro has won and yoink the Title from a now heavily damaged Zoro. Zoro fighting while half dead is a common theme for him, Shiryu fighting dirty is in line with his character, and honestly a Zoro vs Shiryu fight where both start at 100% seems way too easy for Zoro unless we get some big feats for Shiryu to convince us otherwise. WG saga: S-Hawk, i put him here because 1. I think just narratively it makes more sense for the WG arc to come after the one piece and 2. this gives time for S-Hawk to grow up, meaning at this point he's essentially Mihawk on New Game+, and would be a nice culmination of all Zoro's previous fights. A seraphim fight here also does not delegitimize Mihawk's title as greatest as they're so new to the world Final Battle: Venus, even though Mihawk has the title of world's greatest, I think the secret nature of the Gorosei means he could have been the best the whole time, plus whatever bonkers fruit he has. Slaying what is probably going to be the arch-devil of all swordsman will give Zoro his final spot as a modern-day Sword God like Ryuma
With Zoro vs Venus, given the gorosei’s apparent longevity, it’s even possible Venus fought Ryuma in the past, which would give more meaning to the fight with Zoro.
Are you sure Shanks will be at Elbaf? It seemed pretty clear that his crew was heading out right when Kid showed up. He'll already be gone when we get there. I don't think the crew will meet him until Laugh Tale.
I think one you missed as a potential is Garland Figarland. He’s introduced as a super powerful swordsman, and I think he makes more sense than S-Hawk or Saturn; as he’s more likely a pure swordsman
I think that Mihawk could challenge Zoro to a fight to see if Zoro has finally surpassed him to be the strongest swordsman in the world. And once Zoro has proved himself stronger, Mihawk will be confident that Zoro will be able to fight toe to toe against V. Nusjuro to help take down the WG.
It's not really a thing that happens often in this series, but I would love to see Zoro and Mihawk fight Venus together. Mihawk's interactions with Zoro and because of Zoro have made him slightly more human as the story has progressed, so him joining with Zoro for a cause other than being the world's greatest swordsman would be pretty cool. Other than that I think all the emperors end up at Laugh Tale and Zoro and Mihawk fight there. Also I've watched a few theories about the Final Saga and people keep leaving out the God Knights. They have to go somewhere.
I believe Mihawk will fight Fujitora. Zoro will fight Figerland Garling Monkey D Dragon will fight Akainu Shanks will fight Blackbeard Luffy will fight Kong Law will fight Imu
Yes, Morj is talking as if finding the One Piece is Luffy's dream. Luffy's dream is the true climax of One Piece, which will also happen after the final war, just like the fight against Mihawk.
@@leolegendario1nah, Luffy already said it, the world strongest man is the minimum for the pirate king, Zoro will achieve his dream before or at the same time as Luffy's title. I don't know why people can't accept that Mihawk won't be Zoro's antagonist...
My hope for the Mihawk fight is that it's portrayed as a big world moment. Like we get to see people all over the world especially the world government realize that Mihawk has been dethroned after all these years. Like they are already scared of Luffy but imagine his right hand man beats a yonko level threat. Like they would have to give Zoro a 3 billion+ bounty. And then there is also all the swordsmen out there who have been wanting to fight Mihawk or just given up on fighting him because he was to strong seeing someone finally achieve it. Zoro wanted to become the greatest so his name would reach the heavens and I want them to show that happen.
Why is Zoro fighting Mihawk after the final war a crazy concept? They don’t hate each other, it’s definitely conceivable for them to set up a fight to settle things. It makes more sense for Mihawk to be an ally during the final which will be AFTER Laughetale. Also, Luffy vs Coby will be the final fight in One Piece.
It's crazy that Zoro hasn't fought anyone that aspieres to be the World's greatest swordsman. A lot of Luffy's enemies wanted to be pirate king in comparison
To me, that's a thing that Oda could have done differently for better without changing pretty much nothing in the story. The only TRULY swordsman that Zoro has fought is a corpse of Ryuma... that was nothing compared to the real Ryuma. Oda could have easily changed some characters that Zoro fought and made them real swordsmen. It would have changed nothing but made better milestones for Zoro. It would have been great if, for example, King was a real swordsman who had clashed with Mihawk at least a little bit. Even putting a micro flashback of King remembering Mihawk's might when Zoro lands the last attack. I don't know anything. The same thing with the pitiful amount of bounty hunters of worth in the OP world.
@@compucocina5567 Agree. Another small thing Oda could have done more of throughout the series is showcasing the special grade swords but maybe he's saving those for characters in the final arc
@@mattc4266 no lol je isn't. He now relies on his DV, he became the opposite of a true swordsman, "a hit in tve back is a shame fro a swordsman", not me but Zoro.
Buggy actually could be a real opponent for Luffy just give him awakening like Oda did for Lucci and had them rematch. Except both Buggy and Luffy’s powers are extremely goofy so there would probably be some hilarious back and forth opposed to any real powerscaling
Part of me feels like Mihawk will be fought after the war. I know, it makes no sense. But after all the dust settles it feels right to have Zoro attempt to capture his dream. Highly unlikely, I know, but it's a nice thought.
"Buggy is not a opponent for Luffy" Picture this: bara-bara no mi awakening, Buggy bara-bara EVERYTHING on the battlefield, including Luffy, he goes Gear 5 and we have the FUNNIEST BATTLE EVER. All while Zoro Fights Mihawk somewere else, so both fights become mirrors of each other (one side no one taking nothing seriously, on the other both characters taking things ABSOLUTELY serious)
Zoro will fight Mihawk after Shiryu and before S-Hawk. It’s pretty clear that Mihawk is stronger than Shiryu because Mihawk is the world’s strongest swordsman. It’s pretty clear that max power S-Hawk will be stronger than Mihawk.
Actually we REALLY don’t know that Zoro will fight Mihawk. Oda can pull a plot twist and have a character kill Mihawk so that Zoro can get revenge 💯 Oda has been moving crazy recently. Who was expecting a Gorosei to fight now? Who thought a 2 Yonko would get taken out before admirals?
I actually think that Sanji will end up fighting Shiryu, because : 1. Shiryu has the Clear-Clear fruit, a fruit that Sanji has expressed a wish to own. Perhaps we will see Shiryu use this power in a perverted manner against nami or robin, like absalom to nami in thriller bark, and sanji will feel a need to fight back. Or maybe he will want to fight Shiryu just becasue he ahs the fruit, and sanji wants it. 2. Shiryu is much closer to Sanji in power than Zoro. Given that Shiryu is about King-level, whilst Sanji is still below that, It would make sense for Shiryu to be a matchup for Sanji. It would make more sense to me if Zoro fought one of Blackbeard's real powerhouses, like Burgess or something Maybe my points here are flawed, I dont know. I'm only at dressrosa, so past there is just assumption
Mihawk is wierd but I DO think Zoro can fight him after the final war. There will be a falling action afterward that shows the straw hats accomplishing their dreams, and Zoro will become the WSS then. It doesn’t HAVE to be part of the climax, because Luffy v Kaido was the climax of Wano and we still got the scabbards v Green Bull after that. The story will end with Luffy accomplishing his real dream, but he doesn’t HAVE to be the final fight since Zoro v Mihawk has been built up far linger than Luffy v Im.
I think Zoro will clash with Shanks at least once . Let it be how Shanks attacked Kidd and Killer failed to protect , Zoro and Shanks clashing and Zoro defending Luffy will be epic. And everyone knows fights about Mihawk vs Shanks so Zoro too will be excited to see strength of former rival of Mihawk ,
I think Luffy needs to have the title of Pirate King before Zoro becomes the greatest swordsman. Also, thats why I think he will have fights as the greatest swordsman, first mate of the new Pirate King
zoro vs mihawk is at laugh tale ; i refuse to believe zoro becomes wss after luffy pirate king maybe shiryu isnt even a fight if bb and buggy and luffy pull up to laugh tale , if buggy is too weak for luffy to fight and its bb vs luffy then shiryu is too weak for zoro to fight and its zoro vs mihawk
I think it's not entirely impossible for Mihawk to side with the Celestial Dragons in the final war. I mean we really don't know anything about him, he could absolutely have a connection to Imu or the world nobles, plus I could see him being petty enough to side with them JUST to fight Zoro because that fight probably matters more to Mihawk than the outcome of the world. He and Imu are among the few characters to have a ring in the eye as well. "Why would they make a Seraphim of Mihawk is he's on their side?" We saw first hand that he will only do the bare minimum if it doesn't sway him, he could have went right at Whitebeard and did some serious damage but he just kind of cooled it and left the minute Shanks was involved. So why wouldn't they want a clone of Mihawk but is perfectly obediant and has lunarian blood, a devil fruit and more? If you put Mihawk ahead of the Seraphim that just seems kind of crazy because it means all of Mihawk's ability and experience was cloned just like that and improved upon for the Seraphim to pose a challenge after Mihawk.
My theory: Mihawk will be killed by Adult Seraphim Mihawk and will acquire YORU then Zoro will bust into rage and open his left eye which he has been saving for Dracule "Hawk Eyes" Mihawk.
I wonder where the god knights fit into all this. It’s still too early, but I find it hard to believe that Garling would fight anyone other than Zoro. Maybe Shanks, but that feels extremely speculative.
I unfortunately feel like Mihawk will be a flash in the epilogue and oda will use S-Hawk as the proxy fight for mihawk. You get some panels of their clash later and mihawk is like "oh you think a clone is as good as the real thing" or something like that and we just get told they fought for days or something
I think it will be Strawhats, Cross Guild, and Blackbeard pirates at Laughtale for a big showdown all together. So, Shiryu could be for Sanji. He has a connection through the invisibility fruit. Robin can get back at Crocodile. She could easily defeat him using Luffy’s water trick or would be awesome for her to unlock armament. Could be a funny matchup with Buggy and Usopp. They could bump into each other while trying to find a hiding spot 😂 Then Mihawk will fight Zoro there. I think it would be poetic for Luffy and Zoro to get their dream at the same time. And Mihawk could motivate/challenge Zoro more by saying something like “your captain will never be king if you don’t stop me here, after I defeat you I will take his head next”
No Shiliew would be horrible for Sanji, the blackbeard pirates needs te exploit mugiwara's weaknesses, Zoro is pridefull and has a basic observation haki, so a dude like Shiliew who's a coward and invisible would be perfect. Sanji would need a cold blooded dude who hit hard or can imapct his emotions in some way, like Kuzan or Laffitte...
The only thing that makes any sense is to me is that Elbaf features ALL of the Yonko battling it out in a giant war, rather than separate arcs. This would also be the perfect place for cross guild to show up in the final saga and for a Mihawk vs Zoro duel to happen.
Cross guild vs Red hair Pirates vs Strawhats. Luffy vs Shanks vs Buggy Zoro vs Mihawk Sanji vs Ben Beckman Jinbe vs Luck Ru Robin vs Crocodile Usopp vs Yassop Brook vs Mr 1 Nami vs Alveda Franky vs The guy with the monkey 🤷🏾♂️
Although I’d love for Mihawk to be Zoros last fight I do think it would be interesting for Zoro to go into the final war as the world’s greatest swordsman already and going into battle against S Hawk after and even coming on top in that fight would solidify him and the worlds greatest swordsman. Either way would be fine imo just as long as Zoro vs Mihawk is a huge fight and not a few panel long fight I’d be happy.
In your old Elbaf video, you believed Mihawk would be fought on Elbaf. I think thats still viable. Cross Guild still barely meets the vibe of friendly rivalries since Luffy allied with Buggy and Crocodile during Marineford. So they would still fit the themes of Elbaf. Right now they're gunning for the one piece. That means theyre going for the poneglyphs, so theyll get to Elbaf for Shanks and Luffy or theyre gonna head for Blackbeard. Cross Guild will be a wild card, but for Elbaf matchups specifically. If Kidd and Law get continued storylines and fights, I'd imagine it would fit also in Elbaf, where all of Luffys non villainous rivals gather to duke it out each for their own agendas. The red hair matchups may be in disarray if you put mihawk in elbaf, but if you add crocodile, kid, and law, this disarray could make sense
What about a 2v2 between Zoro/Sanji and Lucky Roux/Ben Beckman. Oda seems to be playing coy with the relative strengths of Roux and Beckman like he does with Zoro and Sanji, and a 2v2 is already foreshadowed by their fight with the Foxy pirates. You could mix development of Zoro and Sanji's relationship into the fight, preparing them for the final battle.
How do we even know lucky roux is shanks number 3? Him being a chef and fast is the only reason I’ve seen people make that tie to sanji as the #3, but it’s never really stated out right in the story.like Rayleigh is the clear #2 and gaban was the clear #3.
Warning Headcanon: I think Mihawk may have a genetic connection to Imu judging by their eye colors. I think that when Zoro defeats Mihawk, Mihawk will tell Zoro information hidden by the World Government and Imu. This will lead to the Strawhats to finally fight Imu. Then I think Zoro will fight Adult S-Hawk (Mix of all of Zoro’s opponent and S-Hawk should be stronger than Mihawk at this point. ) Over here, Zoro will prove he is the Strongest Swordsman of all time. Zoro might also be responsible for holding down all the Holy Knights and Garling while Luffy fights Imu
You almost agreed with my theory, which is that Zoro fights Mihawk as Luffy fights Imu, seeing as both Imu and Mihawk have the same unique eyes. Since Saturn will likely be taken down in Egghead, ALL of the gorosei don't have to be present during the final war, which may include their swordsman, so Zoro could very well fight him earlier. Remember, Oda hyped the final war as a battle royal. That means any matchup can happen at any time. P.S. There's no chance S-Hawk will be stronger than Mihawk if Oda is a good writer. I say this because Oda having Mihawk show that actual skills can't simply be "cloned" (but only attained through thorough experience) is very fitting for how indepth he is.
@@Shark-hn4mv The problem with Mihawk siding with Imu is that it brings up the question of why Mihawk will train Zoro - to overthrow the government? I think that Mihawk is hiding from the government for a reason. He is not on the government’s side, he is against them. So I think at Laughtale, there will be 3 crews - Cross Guild, Blackbeard Pirates, and Strawhats not just 2. Over here, Luffy will fight Blackbeard and Zoro fights Mihawk. Mihawk will lead to the Strawhats declaring war on the World Government with the information from Zoro.
@@Shark-hn4mv I think Zoro’ final opponent will be Garling and the Holy Knights. ALL OF THEM AT ONCE. Zoro will prove how he is the right hand of Joyboy.
I feel like one of the bigger themes of one piece is life being about the journey over the destination. I could see the epilogue compiling the strawhats pursuing their dreams without definitive confirmation that they'll achieve them (even luffy, he can be pirate king and bring the new dawn, but we still dont know what his actual dream is and whether it has a definitive endpoint at the end of the series) so the idea of in the epilogue, confirmation that zoro and mihawk have had several duels to a draw and signaling the start of another before fading out isn't the most farfetched idea
I'd love for at laughtale have a moment like whiskey peak when Luffy and Zoro fought in the anime, but instead of number 4 and miss valentine getting smashed, it's Shiryu trying a sneak attack in the middle of Mihawk and Zoros duel getting sent flying. Shiryu is nothing😂
Great video as always. My personal preference for the Mihawk fight is that he joins the RH pirates in Elbaf and fights Zoro there. You might ask what happens to Benn Beckman then, but to me it makes sense that he fights Sanji in some sort of a gag fight, remember Oda said he is very popular with women so it would be fun to see Sanji trying to kill him for that reason 😂. This may sound lame or whatever, but I think that Elbaf’s fights (other than Luffy, Zoro and Ussopp) will be unserious, as that is a key characteristic of the Davy Back Fight.
What if Zoro vs. Mihawk happens around the time of Luffy vs. Shanks? I don't think it's unreasonable to have Cross Guild show up at some point during the Luffy and Shanks reunion, because both Buggy and Mihawk have connections to Shanks. Surpassing Shanks and Mihawk together would be nice progression for Luffy and Zoro and probably be necessary before finding the One Piece since the Red Hair and Cross Guild pirates are in contention. The weird thing about this theory, however, is that then Zoro would fight Shiryu AFTER Mihawk, which I can't see as being anything except underwhelming.
There's always the chance that mihawk himself takes out S Hawk as a hype tool for him. But yeah, it makes a lot more sense that it'll be zoro since S Hawk is a combo of his previous opponents (as you mentioned)
One Piece will end without the Zore and Mihawk fight and Oda will make a sequel series about Zoro fighting Mihawk for 10 years untill he emerges victorious
"Scars on the back are a swordsman's shame" takes a different meaning when it's Shiryu you're fighting, doesn't it? When Zoro said that the first time, he was speaking of his own shame at losing to Mihawk. But if (when) he fights Shiryu, it's gonna be Shiryu's shame at never being able to face his opponents head on, and relying on cheap tricks and ambush to fight.
Didn’t mean to sht to Emperor Buggy-sama 🥱 that’s the real reason Mihawk will work under Buggy cause even Mihawk didn’t scar Zoro in his back while Buggy was able to do so in Chapter 11😂😂
Not everyone lives by the code. King even thought it was a joke.
@@davidortiz3094 yeah and now he's missing a wing and he's stuck in a Wano prison
the whole 'swordsman shame' thing has never made sense to me tbh. what about sneak attacks, random hits when your caught off guard etc. having wounds in your back only meaning cause you ran away, has never made a single bit of sense. but it sounded badass, so everyone kinda ran with it lol
Zoro is what a real Man represents…the pure dominant and protective nature…would you run with your back if you had family ? No…but the ignorant kids of the modern world would not understand…RASHOMON
You have now justified Shiryu’s existence to me. Having Zoro struggle with him and then need to develop better observation Haki in order to overcome that fight because, “If I can’t beat you there’s no chance in hell I’ll beat Mihawk,” would be fantastic development for him. Especially if Mihawk is right there and pushes him to his very limits later on the same day during the war at Laugh Tale.
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if Shiryu or Nusjoro’s fight is where Zoro finally develops future sight, as the 2nd in command of the pirate king it’s only fair he has it
Yeah Shiryu was always weird, as BB Pirates seemed like they could be final bosses but Shiryu would be such a step down after Mihawk
@@DarkCreedNinjahonestly, he seems to be a step down to Ben Beckman, let alone Mihawk
@@DarkCreedNinja I think Oda has other plans with BB 🤔 like maybe his crew will be defeated before finding the one piece but he gets to sit at the empty throne
I just hope Luffy and maybe Sanji watch Zoro vs Mihawk. That way Luffy could see Zoro come full circle and Sanji too since watching Zoro chase his dream is one of the first things Sanji did in the series
that's a nice idea.
I hope it becomes true.
Sanji watching in tears knowing he. Mr 5 😂
how he mr 5?@@Smd249
@@woraz96i literally was just thinking that. The whole crew watches this 1v1 battle take place
This is the only answer. No matter what, Zoro can't rematch Mihawk without Luffy and the others watching. They have to witness his victory after seeing his loss.
It's always funny to me how Zoro is a better gauge for future groups that the Strawhats will fight, simply because he always without fail fights swordsmen. As soon as a character pulls out a sword you just know for a fact that they'll fight Zoro, and hence the people near them will fight Luffy and other Strawhats. It's also why I'm still confident that if Luffy and Shanks' crews "fight" each other it will be something unconventional like a Davy Back fight, because aside from Shanks himself they don't actually have a dedicated sword fighter.
Zoro also has to clash with Shanks as well somehow seeing as he was Mihawk's old rival, so it's fitting.
Now that Luffy and Zoro have their fights on the horizon, would you consider making a similar analysis for Sanji's upcoming fights too? It only makes sense haha
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sanji is 4th.. cleary jimbei has to be the next vid
sanji is way to hard find fights for
@@batsbunny3494 naaaah you buggin
how tf you not gonna complete the monster trio before plonking jimbei in the mix
If the Davy Back fight does happen with Shanks on Elbaph, I could see that be a natural tie-in for Cross Guild, as it gives Buggy a chance to compete evenly against Shanks and Luffy, while also being a great place for Zoro vs Mihawk
I'm surprised that there's no speculation about about Zorro potentially fighting Garling.
Also side note I've always felt like Zoros fight with mihawk would either be third or second to last. Simply because in my opinion I think it would be cool for there to be a period of time where he reigns as the strongest Swordsman and goes into other battles as such. Similar to Luffy not being King of the Pirates at the very end of the series but after finding the one piece he becomes king of the Pirates and then as king of the Pirates faces off against the the likes of Imu
I think Luffy, in his final fight against Imu and the world government, will need the Worlds Strongest Swordsman to defeat them. Hence, Zoro will have to defeat Mihawk before that final fight
@@mrkee5803 exactly also I get flack for this but I've said maybe mihawk is only the strongest known Swordsman we've seen Time and time again that a lot of One Piece rumors titles and such are subject to bias or perception. I wouldn't be shocked if the strongest person was actually in mariejoie or space or some shit but they just never revealed themselves. Also I'm curious about how the seraphim when they eventually hit 100% stack up to their original counterparts. I will s hawk actually exceed mihawk
@@OtakuTalkOD, what you said makes no sense. Mihawk can't be "the strongest swoedsman we've seen" because we haven't seen anything from him. He's never once been in a serious fight nor has he used any named attack. Oda is going out of his way to not have Mihawk show what makes him the strongest yet. Almost 3 decades and still nothing should make that obvious. Same goes for characters like Dragon.
S-Hawk will not and cannot surpass Mihawk. I have no idea how people don't see this. S-Hawk will be a hype tool to show that you can't simply replicate skills and experience in a lab. That's far better thematically and adds weight to Zoro's title than S-Hawk simply being stronger just for the sake of it.
@@Shark-hn4mv I dotn see how any of that at all invalidated anything I said and we have seen shit from mihawk just nothing drawn out against top level. We rarely see shanks but everytime its placed him at peak of the world
and take a breath and calm down. its just speculation also Im not saying s hawk has to surpass miahwk but its very possible. Especially with japanese ideology of surpassing generations and the fact Vegapunk states they are undeniably human. Thematically and narrative wise id like it to be Mihawk too but im open to possibility of alternate narrative avenues.
Any final Zoro fight other than Mihawk would be lame. Nusjuro is never gonna surpass the anticipation and hype of Zoro vs Mihawk and the same goes for everybody else.
Saw people say Mihawk might get tied to Imu so Luffy and Zoro fighting their last opponents during the final war makes sense to me
But like... Cross Guild isn't gonna be the final villain?
You do understand that If mihawk vs zoro doesn't happen before the final war then it's going to be in an epilougue, which means we won't see the fight, which is terrible in every way conceivable, right?
That’s your simple minded ass opinion
@@TheRanOfGodhow do yall think it’s more likely that Mihawk is secretly an ally of an 800-year long oppressive secret King (Imu), then just simply accepting the Mihawk fight will be before the final war?
To me it's pretty clear where Mihawk can slot perfectly:
Case A: cross guild goes to Elbaf to get the road Poneglyph or something similar and we end up with a Davy back/3 way battle with the straw hats, red hair pirates and cross guild
Case B: Road to Laugh tale, Cross guild appears as a surprise contender for the One Piece
could u pls explain to me what a davy back fight is ik the one at long ring island but its not adding up for me
@@AlindaGidudu that's pretty much it
@@AlindaGiduduthe crews take turns choosing what contest to fight in (actually maybe just one of the crews decided all contests) if you win one you can choose a crewmember of the other crew
That’s all there is to it
I couldn't see Crocodile taking part in a davy back fight lmao
The thing is, if Zoro fights Mihawk that "early," there would be no strong Subordinate or even opponent in general Left for Zoro aside from Maybe Nasujuro. or S-Hawk which is even less likely
By defeating Mihawk, u basically leave Zoro without a Major fight till the final battle, since no one would be stronger than Mihawk
And if that final fight is Nasujuro (A swordsman), it would make no sense if he struggles against him since narratively he should be weaker than Mihawk
and if he isn't weaker, that just takes away from the 25year long built up Dream of Zoro and Matchup of Zoro vs Mihawk
if that makes sense
Would love Zoro and Sanji vs Beckman and Lucky Roo if we get a Davy Back fight. Beckman and Roo have both been so central to Shanks' crew since the beginning that it'd be a shame not to see them both take part, and it'd be a great callback to the original Foxy pirates fight where Zoro and Sanji first had to work together. It seems the last chance in the story to get a duo fight out of them with a reason that gets them to have to work together actively. Plus, if the Davy Back fight will be three rounds like last time with Foxy, that leaves room for a father son sniper battle and a clash of the captains as the final round still.
Maybe a 3-way DBF featuring the Straw Hats, Red Hair Pirates & Cross Guild?
The only problem I have with that is how Zoro & Mihawk have a genuine duel to decide who's the WGS
Roo is also a speedster cook so that duo versus lines up pretty well all around
Nobody mentioned Sanji
Sanji fans know sanji is only good if he’s mentioned with Zoro. zoro can stand alone and be be respected Sanji fans need to accept that zoro is the #2
@@Theoriginaldreamexactly current Zoro folds sanji by mid diff
I’d be very interested in a video of the remaining characters Sanji will fight. Particularly because he’s the strawhat who doesn’t even crave power to meet his goals. But we know they will escalate from the enemies he’s fought before. Because right now other than Kizaru I can’t really tell who he’d be matched with.
I think zoro and sanji goes 2v1 against kizaru. But after that lucky roo, burgess, crocodile, s flamingo and one of the elders imo.
@@muns8928 ain’t no way someone who can beat Mihawk needs to 2v1 with someone against an admiral though.
@@Profitglutton90 who can beat mihawk? Zoro and sanji would get low diffed by mihawk even in 2v1. They're not close.
@@muns8928 I’m talking about EOS for the final war. Obviously there’s no way both Zoro and Sanji would beat Mihawk even now.
@@Profitglutton90 No i'm talking about right now. 2v1 against kizaru in egghead. Obviously they'll be individually stronger than kizaru eos. But right now i think a 2v1 against an admiral won’t be that out of place.
I feel like he has to fight Figarland Garling or something as well tbh
Nah. Garling is probably Dragon's fight.
Garling is luffy fight bro he has a moon
I'm putting my money on Shanks fighting Garland/Garling with moonhead having a broken devil fruit to not make it one sided for Shanks
Garling will fight zoro@@mattc4266
@@mattc4266moon is a zoro thing, he is a shimotsuki
Kizaru going through a moral dilemma right now doesn't necessarily mean he will switch sides .... Actually i rather him have the moral dilemma but still follow the wrong path... People making some bad decision for a change... Every character doesn't need a redemption arc.
Crossguild could come in while the Strawhats fight the Blackbeard pirates. If they intercept while Luffy and Blackbeard have their showdown it would come down to Zoro to neutralize the biggest threat which is Mihawk. By winning those fights Luffy and Zoro would also both fulfill their dream together. The only problem with that is this would be right after Zoros fight with Shiryu which means he wouldnt be at full strengh.
Otherwise it would fit perfectly imo so maybe Oda somehow can make it work.
Why would Zoro fight Shiki of all people? Is it even canon that Shiki has these sword legs?
@@sunwukong5518 My bad, i meant Shiryu.
Something that could solve your timing issue for fighting Mihawk and the issue of not enough match ups in certain factions is the potential to see a battle royale between all four Yonko crews over one piece instead of a battle against just blackbeard. This would also likely set up Luffy to be there when/if Blackbeard kills Shanks.
I like that, and if that's the case than Shanks will also be pushed to laugh tale arc and we might get a Luffy vs Big Mom in Elbaf
There's also the 9 holy knights
They are RA's victim
I think everything is pointing at Cross Guilt being a plot device to make Zoro have the most relevant fight in a short arc against them, his final duel with Mihawk will be the highlight and most important event in that particular story and even Luffy will be just watching him just as he did in Baratie.
my issue is that there is no way zoro is beating mihawk who has like double his bounty, in elbaf without a significant power up first.
@@alp_altinok3828it’s likely the strawhats will get huge bounties after egghead
@@alp_altinok3828yeah I agree, people are hyping up ussop in elbaf. But I think that Zoro is also going to have a huge power up on Elbaf and lodestar and to be maybe he will fight Michael on lodestar or laugh tale
I personally like the theory that mihawk was part of the red hair pirates and a three way clash will take place. I also like the theory of buggy being stronger than anyone expected
The closer we get to the ending the more sure I am Buggy will actually be competing for the one piece on Laugh Tale. It would essentially be a 3 way fight so why couldn't it be the same for their vice captains. For damn near a decade theories have been made Shiryu will kill Mihawk. A 3 way battle with the swordsman would showcase Zoro being able to defeat mihawk and Shiryu. My headcanon is that Zoro would defeat Shiryu in the fight before mihawk does and then they go on to do a 1v1
Edit: Also gotta say I firmly believe that theory that Buggy awakening may be able to create nuclear bombs😅. If so then he definitely would be in contention for that pirate king duel. A god vs A Earthquake/Darkness man vs a walking Nuke 😮
why the fuck would a fruit that lets a dude split apart become a nuke fruit, where is any sort of logical consistency there.
I’m pretty sure who ever fights ben beckman going to be one hell of a fight, probably a unique one in one piece
Please don’t do a Sanji video on this topic , I don’t trust you with that Morj 😭🤝 Sure this video is banger tho
Edit: Finished watching this video, as expected was a banger
Sanji's final war opponents are the federal bereau of investigation
Damn the disrespect
@@IAmMightyMikenah I love Morjs content
I'm actually curious who he thinks sanji and the other straw hats will fight
Sanji will be interesting
Mihawk has ties to either Imu or the holy knights. His eyes, the engraved patterns on Yoru and his line when he went up against zoro „I’m not a Beast that hunts rabbits with a canon“, which could relate to the hunting games played on god valley. Even his style and manner seem to be fancy and eloquent. Mihawk has the very same eyes as imu btw. It’s am adaptation fault. His eyes I’m the manga are supposed to be red not yellow. So him having ties with the wg is quite possible. Maybe he once was a holy knight. Maybe that’s where he got to fight shanks. Maybe garling trained him. It always was strange to me how Mihawk sails alone with no crew all the time. He has to have been somewhere else before in a crew or most likely some sort of organisation. It doesn’t make any sense for him to have been alone his whole journey. What I mean is that he ist what ? 44 years old ? The Mihawk we see today is the retired Mihawk almost.
I think Ben Beckman makes sense as being next since it looks like the strawhats will go to Elbaf and Teach feels like a pre-laugh tale opponent, so I agree Shiryu is 2nd. But while Blackbeard and the Strawhats are at it, i think Buggy is going to be trucky and get the One Piece and become Pirate King, so against Buggy I think Luffy will acheive his first/known dream and Zoro will finally acheive his dream (or his first dream since he wants to be the best swordsman and right now he believes that is Mihawk so he has a dream of beating Mihawk (other Strawhats may achieve their dreams or initial stated dreams by this point). Then the battle with the marines and s-hawk makes sense (although we saw the mechanical shark have a will of its own so I cant help but wonder how that may play out with the Seraphim). Then the top of the world government. One fight we have not talked about is the potential for Garling. Now that may be a Shanks fight, but I think we should still look at it as a potential Zoro fight, but if Zoro only fights one Celestial Dragon then I agree the one with a kitetsu makes the most sense. But I feel like there being 9 God's Knights is likely significant in some way (and it is possible one of the Gorseli oversee the God's Knights ... but they may just be opponents for the revolutionary army as well or maybe even Fugitora could fight Figurland).
I'm gonna say something crazy, but I can also see Sabo fighting Akainu. They both likely have conflicting ideals about justice, Akainu also took Sabo's brother, in Marinefold is was basically shown that magma trumps fire in a fight so it could be thematic if Sabo inhereted Ace's will with the devil fruit and overcomes that obsticle/counters that showing it is the person that makes the fruit powerful and not simply the fruit making the person powerful, and I don't think Luffy is the type to hold a geudge .... also assuming another strawhat beats Aokiji when they face the Balckbeard pirates, Akainu may not feel as threatening to Luffy after that so such a fight may lack tension which is not necessarily a bad think as the fight can still be very cathartic but the tension may not live up to the tension of the Strawhats vs the marines and world government (although who knows, maybe Luffy beats Akainu and changes his outlook on Justice and we then see the marines turn on the Celestial Dragons since Akainu does not seem to like them so much and that is when the Seraphim come into play).
I think there is still a lot of mystery left in One Piece.
In Elbaf Luffy will fight Shanks and Zoro will fight Mihawk in the davy back fight.
I think you're leveraging the idea of Luffy needing a big fight for the interaction with cross-guild is a bit heavy lol. OP still has gags and comedy driven moments. Luffy doesnt have to have a big fight against Buggy or even in an arc with him 😅
Where do you think cross guilds journey ends.
"One piece still has gags and comedy driven moment" Lmao, One Piece is full of gags and comedy more than ever, at this rate, Buggy and Luffy will have a comedy battle just like Kenjaku vs Takaba.
@@ericgonzalez4738 not sure honestly - I believe every major figure of CG will also be present in the final war. Whether or not they're still "cross guilds" at that time is up in the air, but I would assume so.
I can see CG continuing, even if, say, Mihawk leaves, as a new entity for the new world.
My assumption is that Koby gets major credit, even if most should go to Luffy (I think alluded/foreshadowed by the Wano arc of Luffy not wanting recognition).
I believe Vivi will be the new face of the new era uniting countries, but not under "one rule" - but rather collective aid - more like a United Nations.
Pirates will continue to exist, which means the Marines will still exist. If Marines still exist, I think CG still has a place.
My guess/bet/hope: During the final war, while Zoro is fighting S-Hawk, Mihawk is actually fighting Nusjuro. The fights are shown in parallel, with S-Hawk using the same moves as Mihawk but better. It concludes in Zoro winning and sparing S-Hawk, but Nusjuro kills Mihawk, and mocks him. Saying that the only reason a lowly human was allowed the title of strongest swordsman is because he, Nusjuro, is not a man, but a God. Then Zoro has to fight Nusjuro and avenge his former rival/master/secret idol. The reason the fights are paralleled is to show that Zoro was already stronger than Mihawk and now has to reclaim the title of strongest from Nusjuro.
The delusion of Zoro fans of him being the final battle never fail to amuse me.
😂😅
I think their just trolling ( I hope) 😂
I think we have an order something like this:
Elbaf: Beckman (honestly this one doesnt really even feel like a MUST HAPPEN but would be cool)
Fight for the One Piece: Mihawk, seems early but i think this makes the most sense as its the most logical place, where the all Yonko and their crew would be clashing for the finish line
Fight for the One Piece pt2: Shiryu, seems like a big step down, but i think this will be Shiryu trying to come in once Zoro has won and yoink the Title from a now heavily damaged Zoro. Zoro fighting while half dead is a common theme for him, Shiryu fighting dirty is in line with his character, and honestly a Zoro vs Shiryu fight where both start at 100% seems way too easy for Zoro unless we get some big feats for Shiryu to convince us otherwise.
WG saga: S-Hawk, i put him here because 1. I think just narratively it makes more sense for the WG arc to come after the one piece and 2. this gives time for S-Hawk to grow up, meaning at this point he's essentially Mihawk on New Game+, and would be a nice culmination of all Zoro's previous fights. A seraphim fight here also does not delegitimize Mihawk's title as greatest as they're so new to the world
Final Battle: Venus, even though Mihawk has the title of world's greatest, I think the secret nature of the Gorosei means he could have been the best the whole time, plus whatever bonkers fruit he has. Slaying what is probably going to be the arch-devil of all swordsman will give Zoro his final spot as a modern-day Sword God like Ryuma
With Zoro vs Venus, given the gorosei’s apparent longevity, it’s even possible Venus fought Ryuma in the past, which would give more meaning to the fight with Zoro.
Are you sure Shanks will be at Elbaf? It seemed pretty clear that his crew was heading out right when Kid showed up. He'll already be gone when we get there.
I don't think the crew will meet him until Laugh Tale.
It is hard to imagine Shiryu would present a bigger challenge than King for Zoro
I think one you missed as a potential is Garland Figarland. He’s introduced as a super powerful swordsman, and I think he makes more sense than S-Hawk or Saturn; as he’s more likely a pure swordsman
He’s a luffy fight bro
I agree I think this could be a huge Zoro fight.
@@jackreaper6224 how when he’s a luffy fight ?
Honestly he might be a Shanks fight.
@@mattc4266garland is a luffy fight eos? What about imu? Plus garland is a swordsman typical zoro fight
My guess: Zoro will fight Mihawk at Laugh Tale while BB fights Luffy. There will be a free-for-all similar to God Valley
Shiliew ?
Mihawk could be during final war in like a marineford situation where pirates also fought other pirates, but Zoropiece can 100% be real
I think that Mihawk could challenge Zoro to a fight to see if Zoro has finally surpassed him to be the strongest swordsman in the world. And once Zoro has proved himself stronger, Mihawk will be confident that Zoro will be able to fight toe to toe against V. Nusjuro to help take down the WG.
It's not really a thing that happens often in this series, but I would love to see Zoro and Mihawk fight Venus together. Mihawk's interactions with Zoro and because of Zoro have made him slightly more human as the story has progressed, so him joining with Zoro for a cause other than being the world's greatest swordsman would be pretty cool. Other than that I think all the emperors end up at Laugh Tale and Zoro and Mihawk fight there. Also I've watched a few theories about the Final Saga and people keep leaving out the God Knights. They have to go somewhere.
I believe Mihawk will fight Fujitora.
Zoro will fight Figerland Garling
Monkey D Dragon will fight Akainu
Shanks will fight Blackbeard
Luffy will fight Kong
Law will fight Imu
I think Zoro could fight Hawkeye after the final war, but before Luffy achieves his true dream, whatever he wants to use the position of pk to do
Yes, Morj is talking as if finding the One Piece is Luffy's dream.
Luffy's dream is the true climax of One Piece, which will also happen after the final war, just like the fight against Mihawk.
@@leolegendario1nah, Luffy already said it, the world strongest man is the minimum for the pirate king, Zoro will achieve his dream before or at the same time as Luffy's title. I don't know why people can't accept that Mihawk won't be Zoro's antagonist...
My hope for the Mihawk fight is that it's portrayed as a big world moment. Like we get to see people all over the world especially the world government realize that Mihawk has been dethroned after all these years. Like they are already scared of Luffy but imagine his right hand man beats a yonko level threat. Like they would have to give Zoro a 3 billion+ bounty. And then there is also all the swordsmen out there who have been wanting to fight Mihawk or just given up on fighting him because he was to strong seeing someone finally achieve it. Zoro wanted to become the greatest so his name would reach the heavens and I want them to show that happen.
I think zoro vs mihawk is kinda like sasuke vs itachi, by far sasukes most hyped fight but not his final fight. Doesn’t make it bad at all imo
Why is Zoro fighting Mihawk after the final war a crazy concept? They don’t hate each other, it’s definitely conceivable for them to set up a fight to settle things. It makes more sense for Mihawk to be an ally during the final which will be AFTER Laughetale.
Also, Luffy vs Coby will be the final fight in One Piece.
It's crazy that Zoro hasn't fought anyone that aspieres to be the World's greatest swordsman. A lot of Luffy's enemies wanted to be pirate king in comparison
To me, that's a thing that Oda could have done differently for better without changing pretty much nothing in the story.
The only TRULY swordsman that Zoro has fought is a corpse of Ryuma... that was nothing compared to the real Ryuma.
Oda could have easily changed some characters that Zoro fought and made them real swordsmen. It would have changed nothing but made better milestones for Zoro.
It would have been great if, for example, King was a real swordsman who had clashed with Mihawk at least a little bit. Even putting a micro flashback of King remembering Mihawk's might when Zoro lands the last attack. I don't know anything. The same thing with the pitiful amount of bounty hunters of worth in the OP world.
@@compucocina5567
Agree. Another small thing Oda could have done more of throughout the series is showcasing the special grade swords but maybe he's saving those for characters in the final arc
That’s why he needs to fight shiryu who is a pure swordsman
@@mattc4266 no lol je isn't. He now relies on his DV, he became the opposite of a true swordsman, "a hit in tve back is a shame fro a swordsman", not me but Zoro.
Buggy actually could be a real opponent for Luffy just give him awakening like Oda did for Lucci and had them rematch. Except both Buggy and Luffy’s powers are extremely goofy so there would probably be some hilarious back and forth opposed to any real powerscaling
Part of me feels like Mihawk will be fought after the war. I know, it makes no sense. But after all the dust settles it feels right to have Zoro attempt to capture his dream. Highly unlikely, I know, but it's a nice thought.
"Buggy is not a opponent for Luffy"
Picture this: bara-bara no mi awakening, Buggy bara-bara EVERYTHING on the battlefield, including Luffy, he goes Gear 5 and we have the FUNNIEST BATTLE EVER. All while Zoro Fights Mihawk somewere else, so both fights become mirrors of each other (one side no one taking nothing seriously, on the other both characters taking things ABSOLUTELY serious)
Mihawk disrespect is insane in this community
Yea
Zoro will fight Mihawk after Shiryu and before S-Hawk. It’s pretty clear that Mihawk is stronger than Shiryu because Mihawk is the world’s strongest swordsman. It’s pretty clear that max power S-Hawk will be stronger than Mihawk.
Are you gonna do a video for each for strawhat? I'd love that!
Actually we REALLY don’t know that Zoro will fight Mihawk.
Oda can pull a plot twist and have a character kill Mihawk so that Zoro can get revenge 💯
Oda has been moving crazy recently.
Who was expecting a Gorosei to fight now?
Who thought a 2 Yonko would get taken out before admirals?
I actually think that Sanji will end up fighting Shiryu, because :
1. Shiryu has the Clear-Clear fruit, a fruit that Sanji has expressed a wish to own. Perhaps we will see Shiryu use this power in a perverted manner against nami or robin, like absalom to nami in thriller bark, and sanji will feel a need to fight back. Or maybe he will want to fight Shiryu just becasue he ahs the fruit, and sanji wants it.
2. Shiryu is much closer to Sanji in power than Zoro. Given that Shiryu is about King-level, whilst Sanji is still below that, It would make sense for Shiryu to be a matchup for Sanji. It would make more sense to me if Zoro fought one of Blackbeard's real powerhouses, like Burgess or something
Maybe my points here are flawed, I dont know. I'm only at dressrosa, so past there is just assumption
Mihawk is wierd but I DO think Zoro can fight him after the final war. There will be a falling action afterward that shows the straw hats accomplishing their dreams, and Zoro will become the WSS then. It doesn’t HAVE to be part of the climax, because Luffy v Kaido was the climax of Wano and we still got the scabbards v Green Bull after that. The story will end with Luffy accomplishing his real dream, but he doesn’t HAVE to be the final fight since Zoro v Mihawk has been built up far linger than Luffy v Im.
I think Zoro will clash with Shanks at least once . Let it be how Shanks attacked Kidd and Killer failed to protect , Zoro and Shanks clashing and Zoro defending Luffy will be epic.
And everyone knows fights about Mihawk vs Shanks so Zoro too will be excited to see strength of former rival of Mihawk ,
I would not be surprised if Buggy stumbles his way to Laugh Tale and the Straw Hats have to fight Cross Guild at Laugh Tale
I think Luffy needs to have the title of Pirate King before Zoro becomes the greatest swordsman.
Also, thats why I think he will have fights as the greatest swordsman, first mate of the new Pirate King
Lucky Roo = Ben Beckman
zoro vs mihawk is at laugh tale ; i refuse to believe zoro becomes wss after luffy pirate king
maybe shiryu isnt even a fight if bb and buggy and luffy pull up to laugh tale , if buggy is too weak for luffy to fight and its bb vs luffy then shiryu is too weak for zoro to fight and its zoro vs mihawk
i think buggy,blackbeard and luffy will all reach laughtail and zoro will beat shiriu relatively easily and clash with mihawk
I think it's not entirely impossible for Mihawk to side with the Celestial Dragons in the final war. I mean we really don't know anything about him, he could absolutely have a connection to Imu or the world nobles, plus I could see him being petty enough to side with them JUST to fight Zoro because that fight probably matters more to Mihawk than the outcome of the world. He and Imu are among the few characters to have a ring in the eye as well. "Why would they make a Seraphim of Mihawk is he's on their side?" We saw first hand that he will only do the bare minimum if it doesn't sway him, he could have went right at Whitebeard and did some serious damage but he just kind of cooled it and left the minute Shanks was involved. So why wouldn't they want a clone of Mihawk but is perfectly obediant and has lunarian blood, a devil fruit and more? If you put Mihawk ahead of the Seraphim that just seems kind of crazy because it means all of Mihawk's ability and experience was cloned just like that and improved upon for the Seraphim to pose a challenge after Mihawk.
My theory:
Mihawk will be killed by Adult Seraphim Mihawk and will acquire YORU then Zoro will bust into rage and open his left eye which he has been saving for Dracule "Hawk Eyes" Mihawk.
His dream is not to surpass shanks it is to become king of the pirates
Without acoc Ashura gave kaido the scar ....acoc Ashura will be too much for kizaru
Mihawk dies before fighting Zoro? Would he defeat the kid Mihawk to prove his strength?
Watch Buggy show up to Elbaf and confront luffy and shanks with a battle😂
Can't forget, on top of the gigantification and everything else, all of the Seraphim are also just straight up cyborgs with laser beams, too.
I wonder where the god knights fit into all this. It’s still too early, but I find it hard to believe that Garling would fight anyone other than Zoro. Maybe Shanks, but that feels extremely speculative.
what if mihawk, like kuina, dies before zoro can surpass him?
I unfortunately feel like Mihawk will be a flash in the epilogue and oda will use S-Hawk as the proxy fight for mihawk. You get some panels of their clash later and mihawk is like "oh you think a clone is as good as the real thing" or something like that and we just get told they fought for days or something
IMO the list is
1. Mihawk
2. Beckmann
3. Shiryu
4. Fujitora
5. Figarland
Mihawk is gonna get killed and Zoro will have to fight that killer
If mihawk isnt zoros final opponent than Garland could be a likely candidate.
I put my money on Elbaf or Laughtale for Mihawk
I think it will be Strawhats, Cross Guild, and Blackbeard pirates at Laughtale for a big showdown all together. So, Shiryu could be for Sanji. He has a connection through the invisibility fruit.
Robin can get back at Crocodile. She could easily defeat him using Luffy’s water trick or would be awesome for her to unlock armament.
Could be a funny matchup with Buggy and Usopp. They could bump into each other while trying to find a hiding spot 😂
Then Mihawk will fight Zoro there. I think it would be poetic for Luffy and Zoro to get their dream at the same time. And Mihawk could motivate/challenge Zoro more by saying something like “your captain will never be king if you don’t stop me here, after I defeat you I will take his head next”
No Shiliew would be horrible for Sanji, the blackbeard pirates needs te exploit mugiwara's weaknesses, Zoro is pridefull and has a basic observation haki, so a dude like Shiliew who's a coward and invisible would be perfect. Sanji would need a cold blooded dude who hit hard or can imapct his emotions in some way, like Kuzan or Laffitte...
I wish that zoro teams up with vista to slash down shiryu
Zoro v Mihawk will probably be the fight where Zoro learns how to continuously use Conquerors haki like luffy did with Kaido
The only thing that makes any sense is to me is that Elbaf features ALL of the Yonko battling it out in a giant war, rather than separate arcs. This would also be the perfect place for cross guild to show up in the final saga and for a Mihawk vs Zoro duel to happen.
Zoro vs Mihawk in the final is good writing, everyone who says otherwise is a Rat fan
Kizaru is getting occupied by sanji.
Imagine while Zoro is fighting Mihawk and this major epic battle unfolds, god ussopp approaches Mihawks captain buggy d clown😮
Cross guild vs Red hair Pirates vs Strawhats. Luffy vs Shanks vs Buggy Zoro vs Mihawk Sanji vs Ben Beckman Jinbe vs Luck Ru Robin vs Crocodile Usopp vs Yassop Brook vs Mr 1 Nami vs Alveda Franky vs The guy with the monkey 🤷🏾♂️
What about Saint Figarland Garling ???
But i like ben Beckman more than zoro😢
i think cross guild is gonna fight the straw hats in a long awaited ship battle in between elbaf and laugh tale
It would be interesting if Shiryu wasn't Zoro's opponent at all, and he was Brooks opponent.
I think you should do sanji next pls
Kid loss an arm to shanks and now he got his ass kick again. Shanks is low key a menace
The Admirals (past and present) are gonna fight the Gorosei
Why
Although I’d love for Mihawk to be Zoros last fight I do think it would be interesting for Zoro to go into the final war as the world’s greatest swordsman already and going into battle against S Hawk after and even coming on top in that fight would solidify him and the worlds greatest swordsman. Either way would be fine imo just as long as Zoro vs Mihawk is a huge fight and not a few panel long fight I’d be happy.
In your old Elbaf video, you believed Mihawk would be fought on Elbaf. I think thats still viable. Cross Guild still barely meets the vibe of friendly rivalries since Luffy allied with Buggy and Crocodile during Marineford. So they would still fit the themes of Elbaf. Right now they're gunning for the one piece. That means theyre going for the poneglyphs, so theyll get to Elbaf for Shanks and Luffy or theyre gonna head for Blackbeard. Cross Guild will be a wild card, but for Elbaf matchups specifically. If Kidd and Law get continued storylines and fights, I'd imagine it would fit also in Elbaf, where all of Luffys non villainous rivals gather to duke it out each for their own agendas. The red hair matchups may be in disarray if you put mihawk in elbaf, but if you add crocodile, kid, and law, this disarray could make sense
Maybe I missed it in the video, but I don't think Morj mentioned the God knights. I'm sure zoro will fight at least one.
What about a 2v2 between Zoro/Sanji and Lucky Roux/Ben Beckman. Oda seems to be playing coy with the relative strengths of Roux and Beckman like he does with Zoro and Sanji, and a 2v2 is already foreshadowed by their fight with the Foxy pirates. You could mix development of Zoro and Sanji's relationship into the fight, preparing them for the final battle.
How do we even know lucky roux is shanks number 3? Him being a chef and fast is the only reason I’ve seen people make that tie to sanji as the #3, but it’s never really stated out right in the story.like Rayleigh is the clear #2 and gaban was the clear #3.
Zoro wont fight mihawk. If s hawk is basically mihawk x 100, it’d be anti climatic for zoro to fight super mihawk and then mihawk
Zoropiece now lives in my head rent free lol
Warning Headcanon: I think Mihawk may have a genetic connection to Imu judging by their eye colors. I think that when Zoro defeats Mihawk, Mihawk will tell Zoro information hidden by the World Government and Imu. This will lead to the Strawhats to finally fight Imu. Then I think Zoro will fight Adult S-Hawk (Mix of all of Zoro’s opponent and S-Hawk should be stronger than Mihawk at this point. ) Over here, Zoro will prove he is the Strongest Swordsman of all time.
Zoro might also be responsible for holding down all the Holy Knights and Garling while Luffy fights Imu
You almost agreed with my theory, which is that Zoro fights Mihawk as Luffy fights Imu, seeing as both Imu and Mihawk have the same unique eyes. Since Saturn will likely be taken down in Egghead, ALL of the gorosei don't have to be present during the final war, which may include their swordsman, so Zoro could very well fight him earlier. Remember, Oda hyped the final war as a battle royal. That means any matchup can happen at any time.
P.S.
There's no chance S-Hawk will be stronger than Mihawk if Oda is a good writer. I say this because Oda having Mihawk show that actual skills can't simply be "cloned" (but only attained through thorough experience) is very fitting for how indepth he is.
@@Shark-hn4mv The problem with Mihawk siding with Imu is that it brings up the question of why Mihawk will train Zoro - to overthrow the government?
I think that Mihawk is hiding from the government for a reason. He is not on the government’s side, he is against them. So I think at Laughtale, there will be 3 crews - Cross Guild, Blackbeard Pirates, and Strawhats not just 2. Over here, Luffy will fight Blackbeard and Zoro fights Mihawk. Mihawk will lead to the Strawhats declaring war on the World Government with the information from Zoro.
@@Shark-hn4mv I think Zoro’ final opponent will be Garling and the Holy Knights. ALL OF THEM AT ONCE. Zoro will prove how he is the right hand of Joyboy.
I feel like one of the bigger themes of one piece is life being about the journey over the destination. I could see the epilogue compiling the strawhats pursuing their dreams without definitive confirmation that they'll achieve them (even luffy, he can be pirate king and bring the new dawn, but we still dont know what his actual dream is and whether it has a definitive endpoint at the end of the series)
so the idea of in the epilogue, confirmation that zoro and mihawk have had several duels to a draw and signaling the start of another before fading out isn't the most farfetched idea
I'd love for at laughtale have a moment like whiskey peak when Luffy and Zoro fought in the anime, but instead of number 4 and miss valentine getting smashed, it's Shiryu trying a sneak attack in the middle of Mihawk and Zoros duel getting sent flying. Shiryu is nothing😂
Great video as always. My personal preference for the Mihawk fight is that he joins the RH pirates in Elbaf and fights Zoro there. You might ask what happens to Benn Beckman then, but to me it makes sense that he fights Sanji in some sort of a gag fight, remember Oda said he is very popular with women so it would be fun to see Sanji trying to kill him for that reason 😂. This may sound lame or whatever, but I think that Elbaf’s fights (other than Luffy, Zoro and Ussopp) will be unserious, as that is a key characteristic of the Davy Back Fight.
What if Zoro vs. Mihawk happens around the time of Luffy vs. Shanks? I don't think it's unreasonable to have Cross Guild show up at some point during the Luffy and Shanks reunion, because both Buggy and Mihawk have connections to Shanks. Surpassing Shanks and Mihawk together would be nice progression for Luffy and Zoro and probably be necessary before finding the One Piece since the Red Hair and Cross Guild pirates are in contention.
The weird thing about this theory, however, is that then Zoro would fight Shiryu AFTER Mihawk, which I can't see as being anything except underwhelming.
There's always the chance that mihawk himself takes out S Hawk as a hype tool for him. But yeah, it makes a lot more sense that it'll be zoro since S Hawk is a combo of his previous opponents (as you mentioned)
The lack of Tashigi shows you lack understanding of their characters
One Piece will end without the Zore and Mihawk fight and Oda will make a sequel series about Zoro fighting Mihawk for 10 years untill he emerges victorious
Thank you I been saying the Invisanigga not as strong as zoro but Is a necessary annoyance to grow zoro haki etc