Why is Croatia split in two by Bosnia? (Short Animated Documentary)
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- Опубліковано 13 січ 2023
- The Croatian coastline has a small corridor running through it which belongs to Bosnia. Given that this is a bit odd why has it happened? To find out watch this short and simple animated history documentary.
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if the answer is "basically Napoleon's fault" Im going to go crazy
lol
Funny you should mention that...
You good?
Fun fact; it was.
When in doubt, blame Russia, Britain, the US, or Napoleon!
Franz Ferdinand saying that "administrating Bosnia is so easy" killed me.
killed him, more like
And him
And him
Aye it killed him too
@@shubhsiddhartha9409and his pregnant wife
As somebody from both Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, it's nice to see them get some recognition. Also, they built a new bridge that connects Croatia and I used it a bunch in my trip during the Summer of 2022. It saves a lot of time and is very helpful, they probably have finished all of the surrounding roads to the bridge as well. Just thought I would let people know
Don't know why but this made me smile. Hope they fix the roads soon!
Well, from what I gather, since Croatia is an EU country and Bosnia-Herzegovina isn't, it's an EU outer border, and therefore about as easy to get into as Fort Knox. So that bridge makes sense, until some point in the future that Bosnia-Herzegovina might join the EU and the Schengen zone.
@@SeverityOne they probably won't. too much ethnic division and instability within bosnia itself. one day in the not so distant future it will probably collapse
@@benpuljak2304 It's been collapsing ever since the 1990s, but I agree that EU ascension is very far off.
@@SeverityOne yes don't worry I know very much about what happened here I am croatian. In my opinion BiH as it exists now is very stupid. But it is also very tricky to create something better.
Traveling from Split to Dubrovnik I had to cross this border and then literally 15 min after that I was back in Croatia. Thanks to you now I know the historic background why. This was back in 2016.
I just came back from Croatia, last year they finished a new nice highway that went around Neum. Due to how big the suspension bridge is and how long the tunnels were you could really see why it took soooooo long to establish this highway
@@thehistorynerd8537wouldn’t it be quicker to travel through Neum, if the queues aren’t busy?
@@DannyPotato this would mean crossing the border of both Croatia and the EU via slow and winding road and driving through Neum. If you were the only car, I guess it would be fine, but that never happens.
This episode is like a Best Hits of European History, with its minor land disputes, ethnic tensions, seemingly unbreakable empires, a Napoleon, and everybody's favourite wildcard Tito.
Don't forget the all lovely and totally not hated Austria-Hungary and the Joker Franz Ferdinand.
@@petert2481 it's about time to get the gang back together!
And don't forget Venice being the mediterranean's worst nightmare
Starring everyone’s favorite: the balkans
@@pinguofthehill7635 Venice the menice!
Any description of the former Yugoslavia's borders achieved in under 3 minutes should be commended.
It's easy. You just need to skip hundreds of years of bickering and the odd ethnic cleansing.
there's nothing complicated about this, y'all just love being xenophobic
@@comradeuro4255 TRUE
@@comradeuro4255what does this topic have to do w xenophobia?
@@comradeuro4255 There is a lot, shockingly. The way post-war Yugoslavia was defined was incredibly complicated with plenty of proposals for republics, provinces and annexations.
Sutorina was annexed by Montenegro because "Jovanovic (MNE dictator) was a layer and had good negotiating skills". Dalmatians wanted to be more separate from Croatia but Croatian communists smashed them decisively. Boka also wanted the same in Montenegro but all of them got purged. Croatian Serbs were supposed to get a state but it was rejected. A strong branch of Croatian communists wanted to establish Great Croatia but Tito only partially fulfilled their wishes. Baranja was given to Croatia even though it was seen as integral part of Serbia. Slovenia was an easy job, like Macedonia which erected a nationalist to power who purged all non-Macedonians from the party. Serbia ended up as sole republic with autonomous provinces, which would soon turn the whole republic into a chaos.
You may discover that plenty of communists Tito had just erected were die-hard nationalists who fought for their states to grow as much as it is possible.
I wonder if there are any borders in Europe, North and South America that weren't somehow influenced by Napoleon?
Thank you for making such great history content and especially one about Bosnia. It is such a fascinating country.
how you mean is there any borders in Europe?
British isles borders
America tried to establish a pan American highway to connect Alaska to Chile but… In the border of Central America near Panama and Colombia lies a gap
Do you consider the Caucus countries to be a part of Europe?
@@thomasbravado Georgia and Armenia can be considered culturally European, but geographically they are in Asia.
During the credits I always stay at the very least until Boogily-Woogily. Thank you generous Patreon user. You are making me chuckle on a regular basis.
I have travelled through this border when moving from Dubrovnik all the way up through the Croatian coast. Some guards came on the bus, checked passports, said it was fine, and then we moved through Bosnia in what felt like 10 minutes. Its nice to see an explanation.
Was this before or after Croatia joined Schengen?
@@grantorino2325 wouldnt matter, schengen provides us with open border to other schengen nations, bosnia isnt a part of it so the border would be the same. actually, now it would be a lot less congested due to the bridge that took us 750 years to bloody build.
I've done the same bus journey, got off the bus at that point to stretch my legs and got a nice pic of the sunrise during the briefest stop in another country I've ever done.
Interestingly, Croatia very recently opened a new bridge (funded by the EU) which allows people travelling along the coast of Croatia to bypass the Bosnian bit - thus mitigating a lot of the issues that would have arisen when crossing the borders now that Croatia is part of Schengen
@@grantorino2325 It sounds like before Croatia joined the EU in 2013 as before then the double border crossing was a bit of a formality (largely since the Bosnian border guards were ethnic Croats as the Neum area is almost entirely inhabited by ethnic Croats who would sooner be part of Croatia anyway so no one saw any point in making it difficult for Croats to move between Croat-inhabited areas). It became a bit more serious after Croatia joined the EU and with Croatia having joined Schengen this year it is even more of an obstacle but in the meantime Croatia built a bridge that effectively bypasses the Neum corridor, thus avoiding the multiple in-and-out border checks. The Bosniak-dominated Bosnian government was not happy about the bridge project but once again the Croat locals in Neum were supportive, possibly because Croatian coastal traffic through the town was a PITA and caused long queues at the border crossings when they themselves wanted to go to Croatia, while the Serbs supported the bridge as well.
I live in Bosnia and Herzegovina. What you said in this video is correct.Just to update a situation. Last year Croat has connected their territory by big bridge build by Chinese people.
Because Kelly saw the operation as a real Moneymaker.
Another victim of the belt and road looking at the company. Should have asked James Bisonette
BOOOGLEYWOOOOOGELLY
@@SergioMach7unless this is a poor joke, how is Croatia a victim? The BRI is very benificial to the countries who sign up to it.
@@SergioMach7 Not at all. The bridge was financed mostly by the EU(85% of the cost) and the rest was covered by the Croatian government. The Chinese just happened to put up the best bid to construct the bridge, but it's not a debt trap like a lot of Chinese-built projects.
The real reason is that 95% of modern bosnia, was once upon a time, apart of the Kingdom of Croatia from 925AD -1102. Croatian identity in Bosnia was mostly lost in the following centuries except for in Herzegovina, and the surrounding regions which still to this day has a strong Croatian Identity.
That never happened
Those are fantasy stories
Bosnia was never a part of Croatia
@@MrDeicide1 wrong dude!
Ah yes. Famous Croatian identity of medieval age. Time when everyone was proud of their ethnic identity and everyone knew what ethnicity was
@@MrDeicide1 Go open up a history book
@@dino5079 It was a kingdom for a reason...
I have heard of this small corridor, but I didn't know _why_ that was there! Now, I know that it was the byproduct of Ragusan-Ottoman diplomacy and (like many other odd borders) the internationalization of boundaries between areas that were formerly part of one country (in this case, Austria-Hungary and the SFRY). Thanks for the information!
Also, the "well" at 1:30, Franz Ferdinand's remark at 1:44, the "be my puppet" sign at 1:47, and the glass sound at 2:50 were nice touches!
I like how seemingly obscure and small things can be traced back to incredibly important political events hundreds of years ago. Shows you how connected history really is
For sure, Finland and Sweden used to be one country, but Napoleon strongly recommended Russia to attack and try to conquer Sweden's eastern lands after Russia's victory in Poltava, and that is the land that ended up as Finland.
yea bro even little moments can change the history
@@Felixxxxxxxxx qq
Thats what we call the butterfly effect
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 No, it isn't. I am talking about small things that don't effect us at all being caused by huge events. The butterfly effect is small events causing huge often catastrophic events
I dare you to find five historical events in the 1800s that see no involvement of either Napoleon or the British Empire
You can break the lost of the last Spanish colonies and the war with EEUU in five and add the Texan independence.
@@MrJuanmarin99 while I'm no expert on Texan independence, the Louisiana purchase seems relevant to the run up. Which links back to Napoleon.
The United States Armada showing up at Japan to force trade.
Easy.
Prussia's war with France and creation of the German empire
Russia's expansion into the Caucasus region
US civil war
US invasion of Japan
First Sino-Japanese war
The exploration of Antarctica, the Dutch trading with Japan, the Chinese subjugating Mongolia, a rebellion by Hong Gyeong-Rae against the king of Joseon, and Henrique II setting peace within the Kingdom of the Kongo by passing the throne to his son Garcia.the V.
Last year I took a coach from Dubrovnik to Split through Neum. We only passed through Croatian border checks, the Bosnian ones were unstaffed. The coach stopped to refuel in Neum so I had a bit of a wander. The ATM there gave out KM yet my phone remained on a Croatian network the whole time. A very weird little oddity
Yeah, it's just a formality.
When you passed thru Neum,you passed thru Dalmatia,Neum is Dalmatian coastal city it is not in Herzegovina or in Bosnia,but it is in Republic Bosnia and Herzegovina. 😇
To see Bosnia,you have to travel from Neum thru Herzegovina first and then after 180km you can reach nearest Bosnian city like Livno or Uskoplje.
We Bosnians don't say Neum is Bosnia,but Dalmatia!
Only Serbs and Muslims think that,because they are newcomers and don't understand history or geography of this part of Europe,only what radical Orthodox priesthood and radical Islamic mufties teach them,which is radicalism full of nonsense and lies! 😡😡
So,Neum is Dalmatia,you can see that by listening their music,its Dalmatian,no one in Bosnia plays dalmatian mandolina or ljerica and dances lindjo. 😁😁😁😁😇
Neum should be given back to Croatia,its Dalmatia and only Croats live there!
God bless from Bosnian!
🇻🇦🕊️⚜️⚜️⚜️🕊️🇻🇦
@@dalibortrupina432 It will not be given. Ili da ti pišem na Bosanski. Neum je u Bosni i Hercegovini a ti govori šta želiš. I neče biti vračen Hrvatskoj. Problem je eto što je baš blizu obali. U Hercegovini živi dosta hrvata i bosansca zajedno i mješaju kulturu ali Hercegovina je idalje Bosna i Hercegovina.
Neum is 99% populated by Croats, you can see only Croatian flags in Neum and Croatian coat of arms, it was Croatian and it will be soon again !
@@zed3443 Im not tqlking just about Neum. Ok a lot of Croats live there but its still bosnian Geographicly. It will never be Croatia.👋👋👋
BETTER THAN TWILIGHT;
The book "Balkangreuel" by Gottfried Sieben explains the realtionship about Smrdian girls and Turkish men :))
And also explain the "heroism" of mighty Smrdians against there Muslim occupants
well, as typical "croat" being gang-banged for 900 years, you definitely have a need to lie.
Croat talking about DNA 😂😂😂😂😂
@@NekoImeni german historicians confirm gang-bg of smrdian girls and turkish men 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
And you still cant accept the truth
@@aburasabaja7610 Croats have smallest DNA testes individuals in whole Southern Europe, because they are too scared to be tested....after Croats been 9 centuries enslaved ;)
Just nation being 900 years gang raped by Turks, Hungarians, Austrians, Serbs, Italians, Mongols, even French shortly..... ;) so yeah, that's why Croats don;t love doing Y chromosome DNA test :D :D :D :D :D LOL
@@NekoImeni poor turkish-smrdian gypsy need to lie himself because he cant handle the truth:
Smrdian Genes:
E1b1b:
🇲🇦 80% 🇽🇰 40% 🇷🇸 30%
J2:
🇹🇯 40% 🇹🇷 40% 🇷🇸 30%
Croatian Genes:
I2:
🇭🇷 70% 🇧🇦 50% 🇺🇦 40%
R1a:
🇭🇷 30% 🇵🇱 70% 🇷🇺 50% (and in the rest of europe also 30% - 50%
@@statebriga9036 I saw a Croat captured in Mariupol.
He looked like Arab.
I think this video warrants a couple videos on why Angola owns a region called Cabinda, which is separated by a small part of DR Congo, and why Timor Island is divided the way it is between Indonesia and the independent nation of East Timor.
Portugual and Portugual
@@chinsaw2727 Precisely :D
Both Angola and East Timor were Portuguese colonies, while Congo was Belgian and Indonesia was Dutch. Since these former colonies gained independence in different times, sovereign countries formed differently.
And Cabinda absolutely hated being a part of Angola, as they wished to be a City State of sorts, but that's what happens when your metropolis' decolonisation plans are "we're leaving in uhhhhhhhh three days, figure yourselves, bye"
Spain’s second smallest neighbor says “oi”
And why Brunei is split in two, for that matter.
One thing about history that fascinates me, is that at one point in history people will protest, fight and die over their borders, while at another point in history someone will just change those borders for admin reasons.
Nationalism is learned.
That does seem interesting! Sometimes, border changes are very difficult affairs, while other times... it's just a matter of legal changes!
@@svtinker An interesting way of thinking of this! Countries were formed and changed at the whims of political leaders until the rise of nationalism... and as this video shows, even afterwards!
@@Hand-in-Shot_Productions all beliefs are learned- nature vs nurture.
@@svtinkerpeople have been fighting over borders for a lot longer than nationalism has been an ideology.
Great content! Thanks!
It's a good day when History Matters uploads a video.
Fun fact: true
Indeed.
Yep
YES 👁️👃👁️
One small correction. The Banovinas were not created along ethnic lines. Just the opposite. They were created in an attempt to dissolve the old borders of Serbia, Croatia and Bosnia and help create an amalgamated Yugoslav nation. It was Tito who at least partially took ethnicity into account when restoring the original borders e.g. on the border between Serbia and Croatia.
Yes, it was technically the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes at that time, as it had been for over a decade, not Yugoslavia.
Cap
@@dw620 it eventually changed to yugoslavia in 1929
yep, basically Tito laid the foundation for the royal battle in the territories of the former Yugoslavia. Very smart move with big commie brain
@@popular_anime_hater You make it sound like the Balkans were peaceful before Tito got involved... ;p~
Go back to the 1960s/70s and ask people living there if they preferred the previous decades.
"Well...." picture of a well. Brilliance!
As a Bosnian i never expected my country to be the co-topic of a History Matters video
Ni ja brate 😄
To be fair, Bosnia has had an awful lot of history happen to it over the years.
@@jackroutledge352 Oh yeah, when I talk to my international friends any try to go over just the most necessary parts it's a 15 minute monologue and it's like missing half of important stuff but still, it's a small country and like most people I talked to that aren't Europeans never heard of it
@@jackroutledge352 oh yeah 1000 years of sorrow and depression, but we're still alive 😅
Really? Here in the US I feel like it is one of the better candidates for a History Matters video...lots of people here know little factoids about Bosnia, like it being European but having many Muslims; that it was part of Yugoslavia and ended up in the wars surrounding its dissolution, that Franz Ferdinand was kaput in Sarajevo, etc...but many don't know many details behind them. I suppose I didn't expect the Croatian Cutoff to be the chosen topic, but it connecting free-floating bits of knowledge like those mentioned seems to be HM's thing.
I think like 2 months ago the Croats opened up a big bridge connecting the two regions together.
@@CurlyKebab They did I live there man I know better than you :))
@@CurlyKebab They did, it was built by the Chinese and funded by the EU.
@@lolofblitz6468 can you drive over it? It says it’s not finished yet...
@@ccdsds3221Where does it say that? It opened about half a year ago. Only a small part of a related detour road isn't open yet (the older road through a nearby town has to be used) but the bridge and most of the roads are functional.
@@TheGrejp it says the bridge is completed but the roads connecting to it are not.
I actually asked this two days ago. God bless you, sir.
I remember having to pass through this when I visited Dubrovnik. They've opened a bridge now that means people can bi-pass the border and remain wholly within Croatia.
Sad for Bosnia
the bridge blockades bosnia entirely as most cargo ships dont pass under it
@@KekusMagnus how's that allowed :(
@@dreamofstone i guess its in their territorial waters but I think they allowed Trade access some other way
@@KekusMagnus Take a look on a map. The Bosnian coast town of Neum has no port to unload cargo ships nor does it have enough space to build such facilities.
So it's simply not needed to have such a big bridge.
My favourite part about this is that by annexing Bosnia, Austria-Hungary’s external borders actually became shorter.
Wdym by this
@@BreakstuffzMapping Croatia shares around 1000 km of border with Bosnia-Herzegovina. In contrast, the borders between Bosnia-Herzegovina and Serbia/Montenegro are in total only 600 km long. Thus, by incorporating BiH, into Austria-Hungary, the border between BiH and Croatia became an internal one, with the new external border being between BiH and Serbia/Montenegro.
@@quuaaarrrk8056 ah
@@goranperunovich2381 All of Croatia has been part of Austria-Hungary since the Congress of Vienna 1815, parts of it even earlier.
@@goranperunovich2381 Aside from Croatia existing (the Crownland of Croatia-Slavonia), I was clearly speaking about the territory belonging to modern-day Croatia.
I’ve always wondered but never bothered to check. Thanks for the vid
This was legitimately a question I had, so thank you!
These videos are so good but so simple. I am always trying to learn from your videos on how to tell a good story.
Man I love how HM comes up with topics I'd noticed before but to which I never gave much thought
Another amazing video
one small correction, the banovina borders werent drawn on ethnic lines, but the opposite. they were purposefully drawn to erase the old borders of countries that made up yugoslavia
Correct, they were even named after the major rivers in effort to avoid using any national symbols
Actually, they were drawn on ethnic lines
As in, they were drawn so that 6 out of 9 of them had a Serb majority and so their local governments would be easily influenced in a way that was favourable to King Alexander's dictatorial rule
If the King really wanted to erase ethnic divisions, he would have pushed ahead with something that was more similar to the old oblasts
Croatia cant be the giga chad chile is by blocking all of Bosnia's coastline (chile blocks all of bolivia's coastline)
Chile really said "no beaches🤨"
Boliva has more cocaine than Chilie. Black market go brrr.
I get the impression Chile only exists because all the countries east of it couldn't be bothered to cross the Andes.
Chad doesn't have any coastline.
@@Croz89 Bolivia has no coastline, because Chile went to war with Bolivia and Peru, because they wanted all the bird poop they have. Bird poop was basically the oil of the 1800s.
It’s because James Bisonette wanted to have a beach while still being in Bosnia
I am so glad you made a video touching upon the Balkans and Yugoslavia to an extent.
Great content!
Video Suggestion: Why were the borders of Vichy France drawn the way they were? I know the purpose was obviously to control the coast to continue the war with Britain. But what decisions went into choosing exactly which bits to occupy and which bits to leave to the Vichy regime?
Somehow this has to be Napoleon's fault as well
I think that it had mostly to do with Nazi ideology.Hitler considered the Northern French to be Aryan,while the southerners were seen as inferior, on the same level with the Italians or the Spanish (because, despite being allied with the first and having a similar ideology with the second,Hitler never saw them as really equal). They were "lazy Mediterraneans" unlike their "Aryan" northern countrymen.
@@Saionay bruh
@@johntr5964 source: trust me bro
@@johntr5964 There could be that theory, but in practice the Nazis showed great flexibility regarding what does and doesn't count as Aryan, German land or anything worth claiming when it suited them. The course of French occupation borders in particular is purely technical in nature.
Interestingly enough there is now a bridge connecting croatia with itself again negating the border crosings needed in the past
Yeah, before we had to bipass, now we only do straight, no LGBT pass.
2:05 - No, the borders of "banovine" were specifically _not_ drawn along ethnic lines, on purpose. The first (and only) more or less "ethnic" banovina in the kingdom of Yugoslavia was short lived Banovina Hrvatska, a result of '39 agreement Cvetković-Maček. Otherwise, a pretty decent, if brief, explanation.
You should do one on Point Roberts, British Columbia Canada. Now that is an interesting border oddity.
I been to both Croatia and Bosnia. Also got to go to the tiny piece of land to the Adriatic Sea. Very good and recommended
It's about as much coastline as New Hampshire has.
And Dubrovnik shelling is better than King's Landing Siege
@@carultch I bet you that it has double than New Hampshire. I'll even bet you that it has longer coast than South Africa. Or Sweden.
@@vietnowsoldo You're going to bet me that Bosnia has more coastline than South Africa or Sweden? Do you even know how to read a map?
@@carultch Of course I can. I will bet you that it has longer coastline than California and New Hampshire combined. Croatian coast is the most indentured coast in Europe. If you add all of Islands, Croatian coastline becomes one of the largest in the world. Next time check before you comment such nonsense.
Fun fact - up until last June you couldn't drive from Dubrovnik (what used to be Ragusa) to the rest of Croatia because of the Beum corridor, and because Bosnia and Herzegovina aren't in the Schengen Area that meant border checkpoints. And THAT meant lots of shopping in Beum itself to avoid taxes.
But last June Croatia opened up a new bridge that now goes around via islands and no longer makes the crossing necessary
" and because Bosnia and Herzegovina aren't in the Schengen Area that meant border checkpoints"
Neither was Croatia.
it's called Neum not Beum (you wrote it incorrectly twice)
Bosnia and Hercegovina is, And always will be part of Croatia no matter what powers decided in past and future development.
Since 7th century is the birth place of Croatia. Croatia’s first king Tomislav was crowned in Today’s Bosnia . 910- 925 reign
@@josephbartolovic8596 the Birthplace of Croatia was around Zadar. Also it is unknown when, where or by whom King Tomislav was crowned.
Also Bosnia and Herzegovina fought bloody wars to be an independent country in the 14th century by its own will and desires. Bosnian rulers showed none interest in being part of Croatia ... ever
You can however reject reality if you wish so.
@@josephbartolovic8596 yes we always say you guys are Bosnians... now we just need brother Serbs to do the same thing and return to its mother. Thank you for finally admitting it
This was a really really interesting story fr
Great video. Choud you make video about fall of Kingdom of Bosnia?
I have been watching you for years and I'm so happy you made a video about Croatia.
Same
Same. (happy Croatian noises)
Love this channel 🎉
Gotta say, I really love the marching animations 😅
Aren't the people of the corridor part of a Croat Canton in the Federation anyway? I'd assume the local population of the corridor is Croat.
No, they are not part of a Croat canton. The Canton is mixed, inhabited by both Croats and Bosniaks. However, the local population of the town of Neum is majority Croat.
I rented a car while on holiday and drove through that border, that area , the beach is one of the most beautiful places I've seen
I once saw a football match in which Bosnia and Herzegovina played against Trinidad and Tobago.
I was really curious how they managed to get 4 teams to play against one another on one football field.
😂
That is a very good one
Threre's the old joke:
"Who's playing?"
"Austria - Hungary."
"Oh, against whom?"
Fun fact is that Austrian part of empire had separate teams from Hungarian part even then
@@plivajucipauk7742 I didn't know that! They unwittingly prepared for 1918 with those teams!
The Pelješac Bridge which connects the south bit of Croatia was funded by James Bizonette.
Don't forget Kelly Moneymaker
Omg I can't believe you said everything correctly and even mentioned Sutorina.
It is important to highlight Croatia built a bride that now connects two parts of the country (and bypasses Bosnia and Herzegovina) while Bosnia and Herzegovina built a modern highway to connect with Neum while bypassing Croatia and border controls. So, everyone is happy is life is easier for both in summer season (for those who travel southward in Croatia and for local Bosnian tourists traveling to Neum).
Napoleon somehow works his way into all of European history.
He broke up things he didn't even touch, like Denmark-Norway
@@karl1ok I can imagine that's not entirely Napoleons fault. I bet Britain played a part after the whole peaceful naval demonstration (naval bombardment) when Denmark showed a little bit of support for France.
@Ben B Denmark stayed loyal to Napoleon when other states were abandoning the sinking ship. So when at the Congress of Vienna Sweden (which incidentally was being ruled by a former marshal of Napoleon) needed to be rewarded as the other allies had also gained territory, Norway was taken from Denmark and given to Sweden. So yeah, Napoleon did nothing to Denmark, but indirectly still caused a loss of territory.
Napoleon even made his way into a piece of American history, by selling land that was twice as big as America was, helping carve the way America expanded.
I think that answering this awfully important question makes this video one of the best in the channel 😍😍😍
Napoleon dubbed Duke of Ragusa to Marshal Marmont. But due to his betrayal (depending on who you ask) of Bonaparte, the term "Raguser" which meant to betray was named after him.
That's very interesting. 👏👏👏👏
Also an interesting note is the majority of the population in that area is ethnicly Croatian anyway so the fact that there is a border distinction in the first place is kinda funny
You could do a video on what the ottmon empire was doing during the napoleonic wars
Ottoman empire battle napoleon and stop his conquest of egypt and syria
They fought him in Egypt in 1799 i think. They finished war with Austria and they were fighting rebels in the Balkans. Most likely they did some stuff in Asia but idk what exactly.
Napoleon was trying to convince the ottomans in 1798 to become allies.After which a combined franco turkish army could land in Mysore to help tipu sahib kick british out of india but sadly this failed because ottomans refused and tipu was killed in 1799 in the fourth anglo Mysore war
Great video.
The biggest feudal landowner in Bosnia was a Croatian, Grand Duke Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić (ca. 1350-1416). He founded Jajce castle in Central Bosnia.
50/50 chance of every History Matters video featuring Napoleon Bonaparte.
He’s just arguably the most important figure of the modern age
Fun fact: Republic of Ragusa (Dubrovnik) once owned a colony in Goa, India in the 16th century.
Stvarno? Jbt, ja i moji svi odoli - a ja to ne znam 😂
That not true. Ragusa have trade there but not have colony
@@jati3149 I think you’re right.
That's neither fun nor a fact, it never had colonies. You wanna know actual fun fact?
Republic of Ragusa was the first in the world to abolish all slavery.
Except it’s not because Croatia literally built a bridge around Neum basically landlocking it again lmfao
I mean, the bridge is quite tall and neum isnt equipped to handle huge ships anyways
Bridge does not make country landlocked. That bridge was designed so the ships can pass under it.
Man I love your sense of humor 😂😂
2:30
Small correction, this map shows Croatia as Savska and Primorska Banovinas united, it never looked like that.
Those two Banovinas were made into the Banovina of Croatia, which looked different, it included Dubrovnik, a lot more of Herzegovina and most notably all of Bosnian Posavina!
Also a bit of Serbian Syrmia, but not as notable
History matters must do a really good job with these kinds of videos if there's just one little discrepancy.
Fun fact - if you pass through Neum (the town in that tiny bit of coastal Bosnia) you will see many many many Croatian flags. Although you don't really need to pass through Neum anymore, since the EU funded a big bridge to connect Southern Dalmatia to the rest of Croatia. FYI this whole area is a super pretty
Bosnia & Herzegovina is a country of 3 peoples, one of them being Croats, who make 99% of population in Neum. Croats of B&H have their own flag, which looks almost like the flag of Croatia. Also, Neum is in Herzegovina, which is southern part of B&H, while Bosnia is the rest.
@@anteveic327 What do you guys call a Muslim born in Croatia?
@@VeldinX Bosniak
@@lovre9038 Hahahahahahahahaha so Alen Halilovic was a Bosniak or was he Croatian when he chose to play for Croatia? Lol this shit is too funny. If I convert to Catholicism in Bosnia am I a Croat right away or still just a Bosniak Catholic lol
@@VeldinX i wasnt playing attention to the question, we just say muslim
The Pelješac Bridge essentially still makes Croatia contiguous, because of the unique geography of the area.
I loved Bosnia when I went there. Such a beautiful country
depends
If you as American people meet Bosnian people they will love you but try meet Serb people in Bosnia and said you are from USA.. just try 😂
@@unknown7042 dont generalize. normal people dont hate anyone just because of nationality
@@ivandragokrizanac9429 herceg Bosna? What is that? Bosna it's mean Bosnia?
Try living there
My favorite part of all your videos is, "But fun fact: No." Thanks for the great work. Informative, educational, and funny AF!
I agree! "But fun fact: no" is quite a good recurring joke!
As always, a fascinating precis of a complex regional quirk. TBH I couldn't quite keep up, trying to absorb every fact, in this complex situation. A trifle slower would help, just a thought for the future on very complex subjects (or it might be I am getting senile). Thank you.
you can adjust playback speed to your liking
Bosnia: Hah, we finally surrounded Dubrovnik.
Croatia: Hold my Pelješac bridge
Never have i seen the minefield that is our history be traversed in this way. Good job my friend
Marty I have seen the future! They tell you more in 3 minutes than our documentaries do in half an hour! But at the end... so many strange names...
Wow... I could not stop thinking of Michael spicer's Christopher Nolan plot video, from how you spoke.
My daughter and I love these history shorts. We need one just on Napoleon and his lasting effects up to present day
Finally a Croatia episode
it's worth noting that the "teeth" of the Croat "mouth" are areas heavily occupied by ethnic Serbs in the north and ethnic Croats in the south. The province that contains the small coast of Neum is majority Croat. This prevents Croatia from having a more conventional country shape. The southern borderlands, which are Croat-heavy are interspersed with majority Bosniak cantons that would disrupt any unification attempts.
The fact that this video has half a million views tells me that we would basically watch anything history matters provides
Possible video suggestions:
1. How did English (and Scottish) overseas colonies react to the English Civil War?
2. Why did the Portuguese colony of Brazil take territories far to the west of the line drawn in the treaty of Tordesillas with Spain?
3. Why did the Irish language continue to decline after Ireland's independence?
2. During the Iberian Union, lots of land swaps took effect and many territories were transferred to Portuguese colonial administrations that later became integrated into Brazil.
Bosnia has no shoreline, it's completely continental. The part of the country of Bosnia & Herzegovina that has sea shore is in Herzegovina, which is Mediterranean by climate. This is an important distinction I'd say, because this is a country made up of two separate geographical regions and then also divided politically due to the war that happened when Yugoslavia collapsed. It's not ethnically homogeneous and the part that "splits" Croatia is actually populated by largely Croats.
The exit to the sea is also now somewhat sealed of due to Croatia building a bridge that connects all of Croatia by road now. Ships of certain height can still navigate in and out.
Herzegovina does not exist in any legal document related to BiH other then it's name.
Saying you have to call it Herzegovina is like saying "you can't say Neum borders Croatia, It only borders Dalmatia".
Where does Bosnia exist except in the name too?
Politically it's unimportant as country is further divided in to entities and cantons.
Political division of the country didn't follow the geographical division, but that's true for both Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Herzegovina does exist geographically there are cantons with the name Herzegovina in them that are in Herzegovina and they can't use the name Bosnia by law. It's a very well known fact that two regions are separate with separate historical origins too, only united by both being occupied by Turks in the same time.
The name Croatia includes every Croatian region, from Slavonia to Dalmatia.
The name Bosnia doesn't include Herzegovina otherwise it wouldn't be in the name of the country.
Neum is not in between Bosnia and Herzegovina so that you can maybe say it belongs to both, it's about as far as it can be from Bosnia.
@@yambo000 Dalmatia is a region separate from Croatia, Neum does not border Croatia geographically. Dalmatia is an actual legally recognized region with solid borders in the Republic of Croatia. Hercegovina is not it is purely Geographical with no defined borders and no legal representation outside of cantons which are not considered regions.
@@gibusgaming What the hell are you talking about? Every part of Croatia is Croatia, this is why the whole country in it's entirety uses one name.
Every part of it has it's regional name, like Zagorje where Zagreb, the capital is located in.
Hertzegovina is a Part of Bosnia.
It literally just means - a Dutchy.
Saying it's a separate entity, is like saying Picardy is not a part of France.
Its important to note that in Neum and its surroundings Croats make 99% of population and whole shoutwest Bosnia (Herzegovina) is populated mostly with Croats.
No it's not important
And before 1992 - nowhere near 99% of anybody lived in Neum...
@@MrDeicide1 do we live in past or present, today is what matters and in Neum and in almost whole Herzegovina Croats are majority.
Can you make a video on the state of the Ottoman Empire during the Napoleonic Wars? It occurred to me watching this video I don't think I've ever heard Napoleon and the Ottomans mentioned in the same source except relating to the Egypt campaign, despite the Ottomans still presumably being a major player at that time.
I've had the pleasure (to date) of visiting 66 countries with several hundred cities and amongst them, I'd say that Zadar (Croatia) and Sarajevo (B&H) are both easily within my top 20; absolutely stunning! 🇭🇷🤎🇧🇦
Love your work so to the point, so historically correct, so hysterically cheeky 🤣😂
Great video! Two small corrections: 1. Ragusa was not a nation, they have always been Croats. 2. As of the opening of the bridge last year, Croatia is no longer split in two.
Ragusa was a nation for longer than Croatia tho
@@annurissimo1082 Again, Ragusa was not a nation; they have always been Croats. As an independent state, yes, they were an independent state longer than the Kingdom of Croatia and the modern Republic of Croatia.
@@chrishanzek8930seems like you are confusing ethnicity with a nation. Croat is an ethnicity. Ragusans were ethnic Croats, yes, but they were an Independent nation. Nation = country
@@chrishanzek8930 I have many documents claiming that Ragusa was an independent nation (which you confirm). Do you have any sources for why they were Croats since the 14th century?
That was way more complicated than I was expecting
02:48 why is Andorra a part of Yugoslavia?
A perfect video again
- Why did the German language of the millions of immigrants to America disappear so fast?
- How fast did the languages of the African slaves brought to the America's disappear?
But fun fact...no has got to be the most iconic punchline of this channel. Catching a mild case of death being a close 2nd.
Thanks for sharing 🙏 terimakasih 🙏 watching from Indonesia 🇮🇩
I'm so surprised that my country featured here. Although, I will say that Croatia has been officially connected as a whole since last year. We have Peljesac bridge that connects the two parts together. Just a small info
So your country actually goes over Bosnia and Herzegovina? Neat.
@@brainwheeze6328 yeah, exactly. It was a big event here, and the bridge took a while to build. But now Croatia is officially whole (again) 😂
@@randomist3475 That's actually kind of funny how one country is hovering above the other!
@@brainwheeze6328 It's not going over their territory, it goes around.
It's a great bridge and a marvel of engineering!
Video idea as a loyal Patreon supporter: Why was Finland 🇫🇮 given autonomy in the Russian Empire?
Croatia became a Kingdom in 925 to 1102 AD it was recognised by the Pope in Rome. Bosnia at this time was a region of the Kingdom of Croatia.
Bosnia gets its name from the "Bosna River", while Herzegovina gets its name from the German word "Herzog" ( a Duke). So Herzegovina means the land of the Duke or the Duke`s land.
Bosnia was never a part of Croatia
And it's called a Dutchy
And Hertzegovina is a dutchy in Bosnia
@@MrDeicide1 Bosnia and Herzegovina is a republic and not a Duchy ( which would mean a Duke is in charge of it).
THANK YOU! Finally someone asking the right question, I've been waiting for a decade for someone to make that title instead of "Why is Croatia taking all the coast?"
I don't even need to watch the video, that's all I wanted from you
People are asking why is Croatia taking all the coast because it is well known that dalmatian was under Bosnian Kingdom for couple hundred years. But luckily Bosnians are not so fanatic to say bring back the old borders or shit like that. We don't want it even if you gave it for free. But Neum is there to stay for a few thousand years or so at least.
@@mudza92 Are you trolling? All of Bosnia and Herzegovina was integral part of Croatia.
I mean my brother, look up Croatian-Bulgarian wars, no mention of Bosniaks, it was Croatia, they waged war at Drina.
There's a reason why it's named after a region, and not after the people.
What old borders? If you wanna bring back old borders, Bosnia won't exist. Bosnians are quite fanatical wanting to hold 3 different nations hostage so they can dominate. That strip of land was given away by Austria, to the Ottomans.
There's no "Bosnian" until Ottomans get here. Luckily, Croats are not so fanatical, nobody wants to deny you your right to self identity, just that you don't twist history. The so called "Bosnian Kingdom", that's like saying Kingdom of Slavonia and thinking these people weren't the same. It's like saying Bavarians are not a group of Germans. You know full well that's not why people are asking it, it's like saying eastern Ukraine is Russia because Russia is currently occupying it.
@@ararune3734 There's Bosniaks in Povelja Kulin bana which copy of is still in Croatia and another in Russia. And it was written almost thousand years ago. Now I know every Croat knows about it, and the fact that most of you choose to claim ignorance and pretend it doesn't exist tells me all I need to know. You don't respect history, you accept only what benefits your point of view. And even if Bosnia was 2 years old, it's still a sovereign nation and there's nothing you can do about it. Luckily we have a thousand year long documented history and even longer oral history, and yet even much older archeological findings like Stećak, we had our own alphabet called Bosančica, we had Bosnian church. We had everything a kingdom was supposed to have, or should I say we had everything what makes one people, one nationality.
@@mudza92 I never said I want to do anything about it, I respect sovereignity of every nation, I'm not a Serb. You're right, if Bosnia was 2 years old, I'd still respect their right to self identity, however it's just BS and you know it, it was Croatian. Why are you embarrassed to be the same people?
My brother in Christ...you're embarrassing yourself, so called "Bosančica" is nothing but Cyrilic, it wasn't even invented by Slavic people, let alone Bosnians. Also it was named that in 19th century by a Croat no less (Ćiro Truhelka). If you're going to use him as an argument, please take into consideration that he claimed Bosnian population was always Croatian, and he considered them the same race, whereas Serbs were distinct (due to Vlahs). You should read up on Ćiro Truhelka's Wikipedia. It's funny you're calling it Bosančica, because of a Croatian man, who considered Bosnian people to be Croats. LOOOL.
First group insists that all Bosnian Cyrillic texts belong to the corpus of Croatian literacy, and the second school that all texts from Croatia and only a part from Bosnia and Herzegovina are to be placed into Croatian literary canon, so they exclude c. half of Bosnian Christian texts, but include all Franciscan and the majority of legal and commercial document. Also, the second school generally uses the name "Western Cyrillic" instead of "Croatian Cyrillic" (or Bosnian Cyrillic, for that matter).
So no, it's not "Bosnian" script, Jesus Christ. My man, that's western Cyrilic, which was also used in Croatia, we might as well call it Croatian cyrilic.
First "Bosnian" dictionary is created during the Ottoman invasion, that's very telling. And you know what script it's written in? Arabic. It's written in Arabic. The Western Cyrilic was used by Franciscans, you should know this order was founded in 13th century, after the Church Schism, they were Catholic (Croatian). It was also used in Dubrovnik and central Dalmatia.
@@mudza92 BTW, did you ever look at that so called Bosnian script? You can clearly see the influence of Glagolitic script which was used in Croatia. I don't know if you're just ignorant or feigning ignorance. I've seen so many Bosniaks who tell me they teach you at school that first Croatian dictionary was written 200 years after "Bosnian dictionary", by Ljudevit Gaj, which is completely untrue, Ljudevit didn't even write a dictionary, he made Gajica. The first Croatian dictionary was made in 1595 by Faust Vrančić. The so called "Bosančica" was used by many Croatian nobles, for example Frankopan family, do you want to claim them too?
Bosnians really are desparate to make up some ancient history which isn't there.
Get it through your head, until Ottomans, there is no separation of identity, you were all Croats, now you want to call yourself something else, which is fine, but don't twist history. We're not Serbs, we don't want to take anything that's yours.
Look a bit deeper into this script and its' connection to Glagolitic.
Because the Balkans weren't confusing enough already
"Why Does Bosnia exist" Easily could be an entire video by itself.
Easy answer- out of spite :D
I remember our history teacher telling us why Croatia is split in half
This channel is fun to watch when you only have 30 minutes for lunch at school