Will a diesel heater run on Engine oil or Paraffin./ Kerosine
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2022
- running the diesel heater on different fuels as request by my subscribers
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Great test. Nice one!
Thank you. And thanks for watching
Another great video mate keep them coming, merry Christmas hope the big guy brings you a van😉
Thanks very much. I'll keep looking ... I might do out my small van into a micro camper ...
Nice bit of testing, AND telling us about the UK Law. Cold snap has been replaced by rain for the next week or so,
Nice find on the Vevor, but a little high, ruddy high on the price side.
Hope you have a wonderful Christmas, and an excellent New Year.
Yes it's a little warmer at moment... the fuel tank is expensive , someone might find it useful. I was going to burn old engine oil but thought it was risky due to them new regulations. I don't want a knock on my door and get a hefty fine ...
Merry Xmas. Terry
great video, looking forward to learning more about how you use that fuel tank
Yes it's a great looking tank. Very sturdy.... its quite heavy to be honest ..
Your correct about adding a little oil when your using home heating fuel in your heater.due to the pump more so cheap pumps. Re Red Diesel unlawful lol in N.Ireland.
Hmmmm...nice one Terry. Very interesting. Cheers
when you coming back Gaz . miss the videos
@@VANFLIPPINGTASTIC thanks Terry. I've got a few ideas in mind...just need to get the camera out and start filming. Definitely going to make more of an effort in the new year. Cheers
Look forward to your red diesel video - you have given me an idea to fit a diesel heater in the garage - any reason why not to? Handy when working in.
Hope you have a lovely Christmas and New Year and find a great van next year
All the best, David 👍
It's a must to fit one in the garage ..at around a hundred pound a go it's a no brainer.
Have a nice Xmas David and send my best wishes to Rachel..oh and Roxy...
I can confirm the issues with using paraffin and the pump related problems, pump works but goes silent after a random amount of time and stops feeding fuel. I ended up having to mix some diesel in order for reliably operation. The particular brand of paraffin I use cost roughly twice as much as red diesel but advertised on the container as "soot free, odor free, aromat free, purified paraffin" and has no smell when spilled - which is the main reason why I use it, even if you get in on your hands it does not feel "oily". Mixing with 2-stroke oil is a good tip, I'm going to try that. Thanks.
ive been Kerosine for quite a while now . ive used a litre of diesel with 10 litres of Kero with no problems ..i get Kerosine 89p alitre from a heating oil suplier
Great video
Cheers ...I appreciate the comment...
I have only run my motorhome Chinese Diesel heater on Paraffin for 3 years. All ok. Cheers from old George and Jane
Thanks guys .Nice to know its been ok on the paraffin..
All the best Terry
Great down to earth experiment.ive been running mine on 25% car engine oil and kerosene anything more of a mix and it smells
Brilliant , I just run red diesel all the time now ,also in my van.
A strong magnet to take out the metals would be a good Idea if you had a permit. A great burner for the heater is used vegetable oil with a 20% paraffin mix. Robert at TNT has done some cracking videos on this and worth checking out. One of my fav sites on UA-cam.
i will check him out .cheers
Definitely worth a visit 👍
Have a local chippy I'm friends with, I'll give it a try as that sounds cheaper than a 50/50 black diesel
Thanks for experimenting! I recently tried to get red diesel in Holland. But since 2013 it is not sold anymore. I got parrafin (which was called Petroleum) at the pump but it was more expensive than diesel (about 2 euros/litre compared to 1.75/litre for diesel). I think I'll stick to diesel for now.
Yeah I would stick to diesel at that price
Great experiment video. Can you use heating oil as well?
Not tried it but seen others use it .I don't know if you need an additives to lube the pump..some research needed
Hi, thanks for this video. I fitted one of the 5kw heaters to my caravan, and as you suggested it's more than enough to do the job. Was the oil you used fully synthetic? Or regular mineral oil ? Cheers
It's fully synthetic. Glad your happy with the heater...
great info, have you done an experiment with 50/50 paraffin and diesel to see what the burn temp will be? Do you think with that mix you would still need the 2 stroke?
I cant find paraffin for 75p a litre :(
Definitely don't need the 2 stroke if mixed with diesel.
Should burn a little hotter on the mix
ive being watching your videos over the last few days as ive just recieved my heater ad was wondering where you get your parrafin/kerosene as the cheapest (over £2 per litre) ive managed to find is more expensive than buying white diesel
The paraffin / kerosine wasn't cheap. I can't get hold of it either. People who are getting it cheap are buying it at 500 litres a go for less than 1 pound a litre .I've tried and can't get it.. I have to stick with red diesel..1.35 a litre
@@VANFLIPPINGTASTIC Terry NRG oil in Hartlepool sell kero i have just been & got 26ltr at 89 pence a ltr,i also live in Stockton.
@@peterlaing wow nice one mate I really appreciate that info. I will pop over and fill up ...thanks
Having just fitted one of these myself into my beach villa, I'm looking at reducing the diesel cost, I did see lots of talk about no difference between 5kw and 8kw, but just found another youtuber where the difference can be found in the settings of controller, although no mention in the user instructions, seems 8kw heaters are set to 5kw by default unless changed
I was doing £300 month on electric heating, these heaters are the mutts Nutts if we can run on cheaper alternatives
I now run mine on Kerosine at 89p a litre .I get it from a heating oil supplier. I have a so called 8kw and it's the same as the 5kw with the same fuel pump... the pump can't physically pump enough fuel it to produce 8kw..
@@VANFLIPPINGTASTIC so paraffin with a smidgen of 2 stroke oil, can you buy large quantities
@@Shakingstevesallotment yeah I can buy as little as 10 litres upwards to 500 if I want.
I'm not going to bother with the oil in it .lots don't and have no problem ..or to be on the safe side stick a litre of diesel in with 9 litres of paraffin \ Kerosine..
@Vanflippingtastic I can only find paraffin costing more than diesel, my neighbour is going to fit same heater after seeing mine,,he's a mechanic with loads of old engine oil which we won't be using
Hello, I bought the diesel heater to get rid of my old engine oil and at the same time to save gas on my heater in my house. Yes this works for me with a 50/50 mix but only a few days. After that start difficulties start and after some more time flame outs occur. The reason is that so many deposits have formed in the vortex chamber on the bottom that the combustion stops. Cleaning is a bit difficult (scribing needle and welding rod) and the inner paper seal broke immediately as i pull out the combustion chamber. I'm now trying to get at least a longer runtime with a lower mixing ratio.
Good luck getting it right ..to be honest I can't be bothered with mixing so I am moving over to pure kerosine .I can get it for 89p a litre..
@@VANFLIPPINGTASTIC Hi, as I had already mentioned, it is not a question of costs for me. We have two cars, two motorcycles and a scooter, I do the maintenance myself and so I have to pay for the disposal of the used oil. Since the videos repeatedly mention that you can burn the used oil with the diesel heater, I just wanted to try it out. And like I said, it works but......
You'd be better filtering it and using a magnet to get rid of the metals
Have you adjusted the air fuel ratios? They come rich from factory. You want it as lean as possible without it dropping temp or flaming out.
@VANFLIPPINGTASTIC where are you getting the kerosene at that price mate ???
If a person decided to use old engine oil with a permit of course,would filtering it through some Norah Batty tights be good enough? another good video,thanks.
Well I "have a friend" who uses it straight from the sump of his car ..no filtering at all so I think any extra filtering would be good..he mixes it 50 50 with diesel..
Norah Batty tights :)
Run that heater off camera on waist engine oil for a day or two and you can make a video on how NOT to be able to clean the gauze in the back of the burn tube Ps Kero has 3% les energy.
some say they ran for years on oil and it takes a long time to clog up and some say the same as you it happens quickly so whos right and whos wrong , i dont know theres a guy in Canada been running oil for years with no problems..
i will stick to Kerosine,
I am in canada, i tried to run a 50/50 mix of diesel and 5w30 new engine oil (synthetic blend 60%) and I do believe it was due to the cold temps we are getting right now but my unit would not fire up after the oil was introduced.
I am using it in an old school bus I am converting and living in. With pure diesel I get no smell in the bus, but when I had oil mixed it smelled very strong of oil inside and I have since replaced the unit so I can dissemble my old unit and clean it. I cleaned it out today and found it was very sooty with some coking that had built up. I had only got one day out of the oil mix before it began to fail lighting, we are currently getting -15 to -20c so I believe it was too cold to pump the oil efficiently. Any input would be appreciated!
Thank you
Also to add, it would smoke the normal little puff of grey ish smoke when it initially lights but when it would shut down again it would blow plumes of blue outside. Unburnt oil
I think you hit the nail on the head .it's far to cold to pump oil at minus 20... can you not get hold of heating oil or cheap Kerosine to run on...
@@VANFLIPPINGTASTIC i am a mechanic so I have an excess of motor oil lol just wanted to see if I could use it cause it’s free haha
I will try it again in warmer temps but with a much leaner mix. I have not tried to get kerosene but I will see what it costs because diesel is currently above 2$ per litre Canadian $
@@tristenwagner6075 good luck mate ...
I like these science experiments and the "maths". 🙂 I've got about 50 galloons of used motor oil and I also plan to burn it in my Chinese diesel heater, but I'm still trying to understand the best "blend" to use. I've seen one person claim they have burned a 70/30 blend of WMO/E85 with good success.
I do believe that a stronger oil mix will work. In was thinner than I expected when it was mixed..I might stick a quick 70/30 mix in my next video..
All that old oil you have will be great to burn ...free heat 🔥
Might try a bit of veggie oil...
Sorry to sound harsh but it's hardly scientific, Where is the exhaust gas analysis, Co/Co2/Nox measurements?
Very interesting, I wonder if it would run on vegetable oil?, I remember a few years back, when the price of Diesel went to 85p ltr 😱, and there were mass protests and much panic over that price! there were people converting their engines to run on used chip shop oil, and you could even buy the kits to do it yourself.
@@londonjacks8371 I remember it well I had a Toyota surf that I ran on old veggie oil ..I filtered it in the shed and mixed it with diesel 80 percent veggie and 20 percent diesel ...did thousands of miles in it no problem ... smelt like the local chippy
@@londonjacks8371 any diesel engine will run on bio IE refined veg oil, you need to refine it and remove the free fatty acids and glycerol for it to be a direct replacement fuel or it will gum up the internals , especially on modern diesel engins, older and simple diesel engines and heaters will run unrefined cooking oil if it is thinned with say petrol but again if isn't refined clogging will happen eventually.
I've run many older diesel engines on new cooking oil but they all eventually gummed up (usually the fuel pump) it's a balancing act, refine and use or don't refine and repair when it clogs up and it will clog up.
I put 50K on a transit Di before the pump died, i saved more than the cost if a replacement 2nd hand engine but only because I did the work myself, pay someone else and the savings are obv less 🤔
Clogs em up faster than kerosene !
You are dead right ... Kerosine is clean and so is paraffin. The oil may clog it up but it takes a while...if your running it high most of the time then it's no problem
Alsow exsos inlet suck out your heat inside.
Just a tips
Shud go out whit exsos
Did you try a 50/50 kerosene and diesel?
Yes it works great and lubes the pump
I was curious what temp it burned at, Could adding a little kerosene to Diesel fuel get a lot more BTU's for the buck?
@@davidsavage4741 when I did the test it seemed pure kerosine burned a little hotter..
Where do you get paraffin for a quid a litre
Hartlepool . 89p a litre Kerosine
a cheaper version would be running on Kerosene and fresh engine oil mix
Yes it would .I now get Kerosine 89p a litre
your oil/diesel mix isn't 50/50. you added 400ml to 800ml meaning you have 1/3 oil 2/3 diesel. or did I hear you wrong?
You heard wrong my friend . Watch from 6:00 into the video I do say 400ml of oil and into 400 ml of diesel. 50/50
Hi mate just a quick one if you can help. Tryed running my heater on karosene but bellows white smoke from exhaust .on diesel it's fine how do i get round this have bought a lot.😢
That's very strange ,it should run fine on it ..did you get the kerosine from a good source..it could be contaminated.. sounds like a bit of water or something...
Been runni g mi e on it no problem.also check your air intake / air filter to make sure its clear , unlikely to be blocked but check it anyway....if it was doing g it all the time I would say the injecter was partially blocked ...dirty fuel causes this sometimes...
@@VANFLIPPINGTASTIC yea the heaters brand new run it for 2hrs no problem. It was running low on diesel so topped up with Karosene carried on running for further 3hrs. Then turned it off. Next morning wow filled the campsite with smoke iv drained it put it back on diesel and it runs fine.
@@VANFLIPPINGTASTIC the karosene was bought from crown oil they are very big.
@@Phil-fh2ty I really don't get it...its got to be poor Kerosine, or these new heaters just won't run on it... did you get the kerosinefrom a good source.
@Phil-fh2ty oh ok ..its good stuff then ... I just don't have the answer...did you shut it of properly, maybe there is excess unburneb fuel in the chamber when you shut it down, so the next time it's started it smokes from the excess unturned fuel..
I would love to know if a diesel heater can be run on cooking oil !
Me too . I don't think it will run on pure oil but will on a mix with diesel.. I might try it soon
It will run on an 80% used cooking oil and 20% paraffin mix. Check out TNT 👍
It will work if you thin the cooking oil first with a bit of diesel. It's a good idea to have a second fuel tank with the cooking oil in and then start up on diesel, switch over when the engine is hot, then switch back again 10 mins before shutdown. Try to make the cooking oil as thin as possible (very low viscosity) diesel heater pump cannot cope with thick liquid, especially with the cheap green fuel line. Thinning can also be done by pre-warming the cooking oil. Always start and stop the heater whilst it is running on diesel.
I've heard that waste oil will deposit shitloads of built up crud in the burn chamber, sounds like a bad idea mate.
Yes I've heard that to..
Stick to diesel is my advise.
I did the video because I got loads asking will it run on oil..
It will but like you said it will clog up quicker..
The temperature reading on the diesel heater control display.. of 19c in you're shed..... Where is the temperature sensor? Inside the control/display?!?!
As im getting a diesel heater for my shed, and want to house the heater and tank outside, with the control/display inside the shed... and want the heater to be controlled by temperature thermostat function....
If the temp sensor is in the display/control, that would be perfect.... But if its inside the actual heater, that will be a problem, As it will be outside....
cheers
It's in the display. Mine is faulty ..
But yes it's in the display..
@@VANFLIPPINGTASTIC thats awesome!!! Time to start building an outside wooden box for it to be housed in then :D
Wooden waterproof housing for it to sit in.... Planning on using a 210 Litre water butt for fuel tank, and then cut and extend the wiring for the display, so it can be housed inside the shed :)
@rgd60 should work a treat...Good luck.keep the inlet for fresh air at rear of heater away from the exhast just so you don't pull fumes into the heater.
A video on UA-cam says you can't use anything but diesel, but every other video says you can?
i would advise sticking to diesel or Kerosine for the best and cleanest burn ,it will run on waist oil but can clog up quicker . i know a guy whos ran his on engine oil for the past year with no problems he mixes it with diesel 70 / 30 ,,70 been the oil
@@VANFLIPPINGTASTIC Your friend is using 70% used motor oil and 30% diesel mix, without any negative issues ?
@@davehimlin2374 it's not a friend it's a you tube guy I talk too.
He says it's been a year..
On the other hand I've seen another guy have to strip his down and scrub it out .he's also a you tube guy ..he has a video on it.
Good old UK, you can't burn used oil unless you line their pockets!
If it's that bad for the environment then just ban it full stop not create a gateway for those that have money to be able to carry on.
I understand it puts a barrier there but only for the normal person.
It's so sad it make you laugh.
Well said ... but it was ok before 2016 . Spend the money on permits and it's ok for the environment all of a sudden .
It doesn't have to be 2 stroke, any engine oil will do!
Correct ......any lube
Did you see the warning sign on back of the parrafin box ? The lung pic say the vapors is suspected to cause lung cancer ( be carefull with open boxes for your health )
Ok .didn't see that .thanks for that I will take extra care...
Could you just use the fuel pump. To make yur own waste oil burner. ???
@@lodwill4007 sorry I don't understand what you mean
Too many laws (taxes).
Yep . Correct
Unless your a showman or farmer you can’t use red diesel in any plant but when the rule is on a machine is ?????????????????
Correct .... thank god its ok for domestic heating ..until that's taken away from us
Pure kero is fine The Myth that it ruins the pump comes from a Y-Tuber .
again many have different theorys on it . i agree with you to be honest .ive started running mine on Kerosine , we will see
Normal diesel have 50% parafin in it all winter Long at every gas statione
nothing stopping you from running waste oil. what are they going to do? check every house to make sure they aren't? 😂😂
Correct ..I wouldn't do it on video.. its a read between the lines video ..wink wink
Politicians suck right ?
Yep .I guess they do..
in my country a jug of engine oil is 35 bucks for 5 litre
you would be a moron to do that here
It's the same here in the UK bud. But given the law here and fact he isn't daft enough to risk the video being used against him it's a read between the lines deal. I'm guessing used engine oil is practically free compared to other fuel prices where you are too?
@@qaszim2012 thanks and well said ..you got it in one there buddy