Exactly. I live in the Philippines and I've been getting compliments on my physique, especially over the past few years after the pandemic. I don't look like those shredded fitness influencers yet people have been praising my physique, especially how V-shaped I look. Even some of them said I have the potential to compete in Men's Physique or something. I'm only 5'7 and I probably weight around 167-170 lbs. Standards ain't that crazy in the Philippines.
@@AMG-ko3gt This is pretty much the case everywhere you go. If you're in decent shape, with no flab around the waist, you'll look better than 95% of the other guys when you go to a random beach.
💯💯💯. People fail to realize that there's a whole world outside of the online fitness community. Go outside and "Touch Grass", interact with people, you'll see the huge difference. Online, I'm nobody. At work, at church, or in my family, I'm one of the strongest guys in the building (definitely strongest in my family). Getting offline will do wonders for people's mental state.
"Physique inflation" is just chronically online gymcels forgetting they're going to be seen by normal people, outside of social media 99.9% of the time instead of a mister schizolympia bodybuilding show 😂
That zyzz example is brutal man. We went from people like scooby telling us it's an unattainable physique for 99% of people naturally, I quote: "it's only something that a genetic freak could accomplish naturally", to looking at zyzz and thinking he's just small. It used to be a dream physique of EVERYONE. I also get caught in the physique inflation. Watching most fitness content makes me feel like I am weak and small. Then I compare myself to my friends who don't lift, and.... their arms are of the size of my wrist, and my arms are of a size of their thigh.
Its because of roids and better genetic pool. Its like Beauty back in the days up to ancient times. Most people only found beautiful people within their own community and it was very rare to see the ultra beautiful people. I think the average man if teleported back in time would be considered very attractive. Nowadays due to Hollywood, and social media and tinder we see beautiful people left and right its too overwhelming.
@@austinjrbto add to this, if you’re gonna let yourself get exposed to the best of the best you need to also get exposed to everything else. The issue is that people ONLY look at the highlights of a fraction of a percent of people online and then act like this is representative of the whole species. You can end dup being in the 90th percentile for lean mass and aesthetics and then feel like garbage because you ignore anyone worse than you. It doesn’t matter if your exposure comes only online or if you surround yourself with jacked dudes in person. You’ll still end up with a distorted world view if you do this.
I used to be very in shape (5’6, 155 pounds at around 11% bodyfat) and would get compliments from normal people (almost all guys) all the time especially at the beach. If I were to post my physique on social media, the circle there would think I didn’t even lift, even with a pump and crazy angles. Similar to hoeflation, physique inflation has gotten crazy.
I remember i did only bicep curls for 2 months while waiting for the school bus and peoplle were complimenting me. Just javing visible muscle is enough
True! You don't need to look like a juiced up fitness influencer to look jacked in person. Hell I remember street kids outside of a church commenting how big I look and they called me a freaking bodyguard.
Not to mention the strength athlete inflation as well. 225 bench is DYEL status now too. A lot of the guys from the OG youtube days would look weak af compared to the modern powerlifting lineup we have today except maybe clarence kennedy cause that dude is just a freak of nature
@@nnnyuy88yhj word, a 2 plate bench already meant being "the strong guy". 3 plate bench meant beast. In the rare occasion someone benched 4 plates the entire gym would just stare lmao
TLDR; get offf the internet cause it’s all full of redditors who don’t know what they’re talking about while irl everyone thinks you’re huge, strong af and aesthetic
It’s also worth comparing this to the concept of hedonic adaptation. When all you see online is jacked people that’s what becomes normal to you. Now you need that stimulus to feel normal. Conceptually similar to drug tolerance, though obviously not physical and not an addiction. The solution to this is always the same. Remove the stimulus so that you adapt back to a homeostatic state without the stimulus. So yeah. Stop looking at jacked people online. And pay attention to how small and skinny or how fat and not muscular everyone actually is in reality. Reset your calibration.
It’s actually crazy how messed up online fitness is. Like guys that I grew up thinking were the most jacked humans possible, wwf and wcw wrestlers in the 90s, wouldn’t even make the cut for the most part as an influencer, and all those guys abused gear like fuck. So even gear use isn’t enough to match “natty” influencers 😂
Bro im from asia and most people here don't really get big in a muscular way due to GYMs not being that popular compared to the west. Growing up i idolized manny Pacquiao, bruce lee and jackie chan thinking they were great human specimens. Then as i grew up i watched Hollywood films and i was just surprised how massive they were it was really Overwhelming for me how some people get that tall and that big at the same time. For me the biggest people were found in WWE and Nba. As for beautiful people often you would see them in Magazines, the Mrs universe and acting. With Ms Universe often where we perceived the most beautiful women ever but now that Instagram, tinder and other dating apps got so popular some of the models i see can give the actresses and beauty queens a run for their money. Most people only found beautiful people within their own community and it was very rare to see the ultra beautiful people. I think the average man if teleported back in time would be considered very attractive. Nowadays due to Hollywood, and social media and tinder we see beautiful people left and right its too overwhelming. Its like what they said, ignorance is bliss.
@@jmgonzales7701 I mean yeah all the actors and wrestlers and shit are juiced up as fuck bro, that’s the whole thing about how fvxked up western ideals are, nothing that’s held in high regard comes naturally in our culture and it’s been that way for a long time. Fake tits, roids, plastic surgery, photoshop, it’s ridiculous. They wonder why people have self esteem issues haha. And now I think it’s spilling into the wider world due to the net. Brilliant 🙄
You're the only fitness UA-camr I even watch. After cutting fitness content out of my life, I am very happy with my physique. On the cut this summer, I stopped and thought to myself, why keep trying to focus so much on improving my physique, I have obtained a look that I set out to have, and I am happy with how I look. Also, I am not 19 anymore,and I have more interests in my life.
The age aspect is a big part of this. The younger lifters now have had social media since they were kids, and the scene was already crazy inflated/saturated when they got into it.
"Oh but training has evolved so much” - “Natural” UA-camrs explaning how they still make newbie-level gains at 10+ years of strict lifting and dieting. “It's the new technique bro”
Sam Sulek has done a lot more damage than good. And even these up and comer teenagers that bench 500 lbs allegedly. They create these impossible achievements and make it seem like its the gold standard so everyone compares themselves to it.
@@preparedsurvivalist2245Sam doesn't claim natty lol. If all people watch him because he is humble and DOESN'T act natural. Anyone can do whatever they want with their body and you can also NOT run grams of gear to gain another 5-10kg over tour natural'limit' and cut down to 13-15ish bf.
I don't know whether it's where I live, or if it's my gym, but so many people are on so much shit. It's really hard not to get salty, but I try and check myself and understand the lay of the land. I'm proud of how hard I work, and if other people are getting better results with less work (for whatever reason), so be it.
Gear use is very widespread now. I see teens who are clearly using all the time. Everyone wants to be an influencer and even general gym goers know about it, more so than the past.
@@yoeyyoey8937 They tell me. And there are some where it's just obvious. And there are some who are HUGE in April and suddenly in October they're small.
At this point i dont even give a crap about the "scene", and i dont even care about figuring out if someone is natty or not, and even so, most people manipulate lighting and angles to look way different to how they are normally. Its unrealistic (obv). Additionally everyones different, so you cant compare your progress directly to someone elses. Its not just genetic. Some people have an athletic background before lifting, and others were completely sedentary before lifting, so that plays a part too in how much of a head start you have. Id rather just laser focus on myself and my own progress, and not get all caught up in other peoples business that has no effect on my own gains.
The only thing that fitness influencers have to offer is knowledge. Looking at pictures of jacked dudes online is useless. Zyzz became an icon because of how supportive and inspirational he ended up being. Not because he looked good. “We’re all gonna make it, bro.” This is why people like Dr. Mike are valuable. The knowledge they teach you to change your own life. Who cares how jacked he is. What good does that do me? Also, half the community is teenagers so you can’t expect them to have wisdom or make good choices. Telling them to get off instagram isn’t gonna do anything. But yeah, when you’re older and wiser who the hell is looking at naked dudes on instagram? Go lift and live your life. Consume content to LEARN, not to oogle Sam Sulek.
I don’t like how people use “natty” as an insult. It pre-supposes that the only physiques that can be impressive are enhanced, which says a lot more about the people throwing around the insult and how brainrotted they are by social media. To be fair tho, Togi leans into the whole steroid user shtick, so those comments calling him natty are probably just taking the piss out of him.
@ oh yeah for sure, I’m well aware that the best way to get a gearhead mad is to call them natty. I do think that a lot of people miss the irony tho and actually believe that calling someone natty is an insult on its own.
Im honestly glad I have well adjusted nonbrain rot guys to talk to in the gym. Their validation for my physique which some have called "mid" online means alot for my mental
Honestly happy to have come to find someone who essentially possesses the same thought process as I do and isn’t immersed in whatever the hell all these other people are on. Keep up the good work, RF.
This is why I like I compare it to like working on cars everybody's chasing High horsepower numbers and no one knows the amount of dedication it takes to get there they just want something fast right out the box special if they can't work on it themselves
The advice section of this, asking if someone would he able to accept their body, is an important message. I hope it helps a lot of people's perspectives.
The thing is Arnold’s legs are proportionate IF you look at actual Greek god statues. They were all of similar proportion. Legs have only recently (last 25 years) been built to ridiculous levels
My good friend / coach told me that I look like I take 500 mg of test weekly IRL when he saw me for the first time as he admitted, it really puts things into perspective how detached the average instagram lifter is from the reality. I'm currently sitting 91.5 kg at 178 cm with half visible abs (cutting to probably 81 kg or so to really get lean + get into 83 kg powerlifting class) and everyone around me tells me I'm buff while I'd probably get scolded by the terminally online people for not being strong / lean enough.
I dont think sarms goblins are intelligent enough to create a framework of "what is a good bodybuilding weight to height ratio?". 91kg at 178cm is a huge guy at parity. They just say you need to be 250lbs shredded, or you dont even lift.
Are people In Comment sections always lying? I tried so many things people say oh I did this I gained ten pounds of muscle oh I did that and lost fifty pounds. Nothing I’ve done has gotten me such good results.
@ thanks man I did keto for awhile thinking it would take off like everyone said. I lost like fifteen ibs my first week I guess it was all water weight than nothing after that. Than I made huge gains when I started eating fruit again. I figured everyone was full of it but no one ever calls it out so I thought maybe it was something wrong w me. Edit by gains I meant lifting more weight
These people who have these ridicilous standards probably dont even go outside and just live on the internet. On the internet if youre not at least 200 lbs shredded and dont deadlift at least 700lbs naturally of course you dont even lift. By the real world standards though someone like scott herman still has great physique.
Yes and what looks good on camera is not the same as what it looks like in reality. You cannot tell how much space someone takes up in a picture. If you want to look good online you have to use those standards. If you want to look good in reality you have to use real life as a reference. Go see Dwayne Johnson in real life and decide if you want your arm to take up that much physical space. Everything else is the same size. Your door doesn’t scale up when you get jacked. Dr. Mike literally cannot OHP because he’s so jacked. Those physiques might look cool in a picture but most people don’t actually want to be like that in reality. Using internet pictures to decide what you want in reality is silly.
I take all my supplements in gummy form and I'm strong as an Ox. Great point about Zyzz. no one was gatekeeping and hating back then. Same with scott Herman. great examples
Today, our iPhones have the ability to edit and filter photos, so everyone can do it. Back in the day you had to take photos to specialists who literally airbrushed them, and it was not cheap!
Only in recent history have we had access to a surplus of food and gear to get this big. Even a fair chunk of old school bodybuilders were probably taking gear back then too.
Bro im from asia and most people here don't really get big in a muscular way due to GYMs not being that popular compared to the west. Growing up i idolized manny Pacquiao, bruce lee and jackie chan thinking they were great human specimens. Then as i grew up i watched Hollywood films and i was just surprised how massive they were it was really Overwhelming for me how some people get that tall and that big at the same time. For me the biggest people were found in WWE and Nba. As for beautiful people often you would see them in Magazines, the Mrs universe and acting. With Ms Universe often where we perceived the most beautiful women ever but now that Instagram, tinder and other dating apps got so popular some of the models i see can give the actresses and beauty queens a run for their money. Most people only found beautiful people within their own community and it was very rare to see the ultra beautiful people. I think the average man if teleported back in time would be considered very attractive. Nowadays due to Hollywood, and social media and tinder we see beautiful people left and right its too overwhelming. Its like what they said, ignorance is bliss.
When people refer to how long they’ve been lifting, do they mean how long they’ve actually been bulking and gaining muscle, or just how long they’ve been lifting in general doing both bulking and cutting
That first picture of a smooth Zane is attainable in 1-2 years, but that's above average genetics and somehow having gotten lucky enough to really learn how to train from the start and get diet and recovery down. For an average guy, maybe never to 5+ years.
This is why I have decided I will prob take a low dose when I turn 25 in a few years. Alex Eubank is on 250mg of test and he looks to be doing fine, literally no bad side effects as of now.
@stopplzs except he's very likely lying. They all lie, the new fake natty's are honest about their usage and the ones who are severely downgrading their usage. Alex is very likely on more than 250mgs
Very motivational video, compliments. I'm talking like a middle aged man, maybe, but I agree that everyone of us should be proud of ourselves when we reach even the minimum goal. Said by a 42 years old man affected by a neuromuscular disease who still trains and trying to take back some of his former energy. Nice touch showing the bronze and silver era's physiques.
So happy you brought up Scott Herman as he was really the first UA-cam influencer I followed in 2016 when i started lifting and he was considered jacked and now DYEL. I don't know if he still lifts but I'm talking about his physique back then now it will be DYEL. Yeah the physique inflation is real.
Of course he still lifts. And he was not just "jacked" back then. He was being accused of not being natty all the time. The world has gone mad. Male body inflation is on par with hoe-flation.
Average guy here checking in, a couple thoughts in response: 1. To your point about legs, as an average guy with a physical labor job, I've decided not to train legs anymore, or at least not hypertrophy wise, maintenance at best. Training them for growth just comes with way too much DOMS that it impacts my ability to get work done, the trade-off isn't worth it. I think most average men who aren't competing or making money off bodybuilding should evaluate their training from that lense. 2. The point about social media, i got off of all social media almost 3 years ago now, and it's honestly been really freeing to just enjoy training for the fun of it, for the love of it, not to try to keep up with my peers. Again, this is from the average, non competitive bodybuilder/fitness influencer perspective, which most of us are. Unless you're making money off of fitness, there's no need to engage in the "Fitness Rat Race" so to speak. Train for the love of it, not to keep up with everybody else.
You can train your legs less hard and keep progressing cause if DOMs is getting in the way you’re just doing way too much it shouldn’t be that bad unless you’re overdoing it
If you want to train legs without being too sore just so you can maintain your leg size/strength, I would recommend you either do heavier weight and less reps (Like 85-90% of your max squat for 3 reps) for 3 sets just to maintain your leg strength, followed by some accessory leg work close to failure for less sets like only 1-2. That should not cause too much soreness.
Split your leg work to back and front and do what you perceive as harder near your off days. I train quads in the weekends and i train hams in the weekdays and my job is essentially me walking around and giving out stuff all day between riding to get to some places. Quad training kills me, hamstring training tires me out but i can still function for physical labor cause my hamstrings can withstand alot due to my background.
I also work blue collar. You don’t have to abandon leg gains altogether. There’s no rule that says you need to get crippling sore to make gains. You could train less volume and just get a little sore. But maybe you have an amazing paying job That is hard leg labor and can’t even do that. I wouldn’t sacrifice gains to be a superstar at some average blue collar job personally.
@CarlYota to your first point, you're correct, however, crippling DOMS just seem to come with the territory, for me at least. I did 3 sets of hack squats and my quads were cooked for 5 days. My legs are just super sensitive to stimulus. On one hand, that means they grow easier, which is true, my legs have always been my strongest body part. On the other hand, it means they get RIDICULOUSLY sore. To your second point though, it's really a matter of preference and priority. Aside from being strong enough to be productive, leg gains benefit me nothing. I'm not gonna be able to provide for my wife and kid by having massive quads. Productivity at work does provide for them though. To each his own, I just wouldn't sacrifice what pays the bills for what's simply an aesthetic pursuit.
I was a reasonably strong bodybuilder in my 20's. Now, at 65, I have rekindled my love for bodybuilding. My chest is growing at a ridiculous rate. I kind of have that pec-deltoid tie-in that Reeve had. Great vid!
I saw Terminator 2 a year ago. My first thought seing Arnold teleport naked: "Arnold is really small, @VeganGains is bigger". When I was a kid he was HUUUGE. Now quite a few influencers are bigger than him.
Tnf arnold had to downsize considerably in order to become a movie star, Hercules in New York is a movie that was made just a year prior to his first Mr Olympia win tho.
@@yoeyyoey8937 im pretty sure thats what hes talking about. but no one watches women's bodybuilding because they look 🤮and all the points would be the same as this video.
Unless people are heavily into the fitness world, they will be impressed and compliment noobie gains... Physique inflation is an online phenomenon almost exclusively.
Had to go back to see if the 79 was really Zane. I didn't remember him ever being that size. I do know he talked about moving away from competition because, I don't how he said it exactly but basically didn't want to take and get as big as he needed to to compete
The logic isn't "printing a bunch of money that has no value", its that printing excess money causes the price level to trend upwards, which *then* causes the value per dollar to decrease
Some things just weird, in my gym is a 100kg lean natty maybe 184cm tall and another guy about same high 85kg on juice but he looks way bigger. How is this possible 😂
Unsuccessful people in life just hate to see anyone else succeed. I may be, definitely am, delusional but my natty spectrum allows for a lot more than this but not because I'm vindictive I just need that placebo, that denial of the most probable reality keeps me from unnecessary speculations and focused on getting my self to that outcome if it is at all possible without gear, people that drag others down often are the ones that do this to themselves.
Nope, it is a good example. The majority of his physique back then was also manipulated by lightning, cameras and angels. Sure, he could still be better than now, but you're overrating it too much.
On the internet I have a "mid" Natty physique. On stage at 170 I had a second place natural physique. I looked like a strong grasshopper with how small my legs and arms were. Great Back though 💯 In the gym guys look at me and say things like "When you're my age", "and you're natural right?", and just general wanting to look like me😂 Everything changes though when you rebound from a show and start bulking for real because as I'm approaching 200 lb I'm starting to feel like those compliments are real😂
Great video , I admire people who workout for fun and don't take it seriously I wish I was like that , you know what they say " The first time you lift weights you will never be big enough again"
@REVIVALFitness think of all the spare time you would have! Then again you probably wouldn't be doing what you love. Keep up the great work you have the most honest channel on UA-cam
I feel like there is going to be a huge problem in the next ten years when all these Gen Z and late alpha kid's hearts start to go pop from all the drug use they exposed themselves during this 2020's era. It's not like my high school days back in the mid 2000's when juicing was really shunned and honestly hard to come by. Sure, there was that one massive guy who we all knew did gear and likely bathtub gear judging by all the backne, but it was uncommon. That being said, we didn't have the pressures of social media like these kids do. Sure, we had myspace and facebook just started but it wasn't like today. Instagram wasn't a thing and when it did come onto the scene it was a platform for actual photography bloggers, not thirst traps trying to sell their OFs or Sarmjunkies trying to sell bonk supplements. Point I'm making is this- With just going to my public gym now it looks as if all these younger generation people are on stuff. It's either we were all stupid back in my day and didn't train properly and thus we were all "mid" or the generation today is partaking of substances to win at all costs and shortcut their physiques. And sure, you can say our information was limited then, true, but I think we all knew to eat a bunch and lift heavy shit. At least, that was my weights teacher's philosophy back in HS. So, I'm going to say it's more of the latter. Even if it's just twenty percent of the younger generation dabbling with this crap, it will be a huge deal in the next ten years when we all have to start paying for their mistakes. Either with their hearts popping or the other list of chronic illnesses we'll have to pay for. We have no idea the long term effects of these SARMS are. Same goes for the people that want to chop off their parts to feel like they do on the inside. We're going to have to pay for the ramifications of their decisions in the future when these people realize it was just a phase in their youth to feel included and part of a community. But unfortunately, they will be stuck with the permanence of what they did And we will have to pay for it. Pay for their mental health, medical, all of it. It's going to be a big political issue in ten years, mark my words.
13:05 Steve Reeves 1947 - people turned around when he was walking past them at the beach as if he was a god. Steve Reeves physique in 2024 - "that's a cool ottermode physique bro, did you hit 2 plate bench yet?"
People have simultaneously the lowest and highest expectations at the same time. Some people will tell me benching 315 from being a couch potatoe in a year isnt possible but I'm getting close lol, at the same time be like it doesn't count because you don't have dick skin ab veins. Like sheesh take it easy 20%bf ain't gunna kill me let me shed it off after I hit some numbers lmao.
I think that there's a difference when you view something through a screen vs viewing it in person. You lose perspective of what's real when looking at a flat image.
Bro I lift 2-3 times a week and 1 day cardio and squats. I went to the pool. I looked better than 99% people there. My european city plays in the first league for water polo. I looked better than most of these elite( national level of course) athletes at water polo. 😂 Internet ruined people perception. I am afraid we need some regulation because both male and female body dysmorphia is through the roof.
It’s too late. Social media would have to be wiped off the planet, and even then, anyone who has had their perception warped isn’t going to just forget.
At that point it’s probably a matter of being very tuned in to recovery variables, adjusting sets if needed, rotating in and out exercises, etc. That applies to any program really.
I guess its because Im older. I compete and Im not really influenced by other. I still just try to improve yr to yr. It would also be hard to accept myself as a fat person but I could navigate the world
A tip for anyone suffering from body dysmorphia and constant comparison : delete social media for a while and notice how you as a gym goer fare against the general population and even your gym. You’ll realise just how much you stand out and that 99% of people are nothing close to what social media shows you.
Do powerlifting. It helps take your mind off the obsessiveness of bodybuilding. Then again you can become obsessive over numbers and training can burn you out even more in terms of nervous system fatigue and joint and connective tissues
yup i would say my body is in the 1% but still plenty of bigger dudes at the gym and the feeling of being small remains. I started at 140 and now i am at 180 with abs
It even effects people who I know who have never even been in the gym. At 14 with 150lbs bench, 285lbs deadlift and 245lbs squat and I have abs, but apparently I'm a fat fuck 😭 by the anorexic pencils, of course
11:14 Loool bro when i started gym in 2024. I thought it was attainable in 10 years. I had pics of arnold and other old school bodybuilders as goal. Now it's 2024, i still look average lol. Reality hits us all eventually. Only few of us get the recipe of building muscle right and the consistentcy.
I have a hypothetical, if you were to use gear for the first 2 years of your training to expedite the process then get off of gear would you be able to still maintain that physique
Idk because everyone who claimed to do that is lying. If you are a certain size only cause of gear then you will probably lose the gains. Think about how every gearhead goes back to natty size after stopping use
Back in the 1980s, I thought Lee Labrada has a more aspirational physique than Arnold. IF I had had any abilities and interest in trying to be a bodybuilder, replicating his physique would have been my goal. Today he would be dismissed as "too small".
I dont cere how my body looks like ofc im not gonna look like cbum or david leid like its a full time job to look the like them. But if i can be truthfull i just whont to be strong who tf ceres how look at the end off the dey my strenth is going to Create my
Man, those creatine gummies are expensive and really high calorie for what you get. I'm in Canada, so Canadian pricing, but at the current sale it's 43 dollars (plus shipping) for 30 3g servings. That's 1.43 per 3g serving. 45 calories per serving. Canadian Protein sells 1Kg bags of Creatine Monohydrate for 60 CAD which is 333 3g servings, or 18 cents per serving. 30 cents for 5g servings. 0 calories. This is full price and they have sales where you can stock up all the time. Though the form factor is interesting you could just put creatine in sugar free jello and make it using half the water to make it more solid and less jiggly. This would make each serving about 25 cents and would cut the calories from 45 to about 5 (since a quarter of a pack of sugar free jello is 10 calories). That or just put the creatine in something you are eating anyway. I put mine in a daily vitamin/mineral shake. As an added bonus, instead of pectin the jello uses gelatin which is basically a collagen protein so even though it would be a minisule or nearly unmeasurable amount the calories come from protein rather than sugar. If I were going to pay that much for creatine I'd probably do it in one of these electrolyte/creatine drink powders like the Myoxcience ones. There is at least some evidence that taking creatine in liquid with electrolytes increases absorbtion.
A lot of this is just meme and trolling culture. These kids commenting on IG posts have no clue what they're saying, they're just parroting other people who say it. It's turtles all the way down. All you can do as a lifter is worry about the real world. I go to the gym and I just see clowns to the left of me jokers to the right. And I know I'm doing good.
People underestimate how a quote on quote “mid” physique can be absolutely insane in real life or in person. I was guilty of this myself.
A year of noob gains and not being a fat bastard is top 5% in the real world.
Exactly. I live in the Philippines and I've been getting compliments on my physique, especially over the past few years after the pandemic. I don't look like those shredded fitness influencers yet people have been praising my physique, especially how V-shaped I look. Even some of them said I have the potential to compete in Men's Physique or something. I'm only 5'7 and I probably weight around 167-170 lbs. Standards ain't that crazy in the Philippines.
@@AMG-ko3gt This is pretty much the case everywhere you go. If you're in decent shape, with no flab around the waist, you'll look better than 95% of the other guys when you go to a random beach.
💯💯💯. People fail to realize that there's a whole world outside of the online fitness community. Go outside and "Touch Grass", interact with people, you'll see the huge difference. Online, I'm nobody. At work, at church, or in my family, I'm one of the strongest guys in the building (definitely strongest in my family). Getting offline will do wonders for people's mental state.
@@AMG-ko3gt are you ph native or yt?
The funniest thing about Togi is his real name: "Stoffer" which in modern German translates to "juicer" ^^
He’s just doing his job
In denmark it is the same as “drugs” . Stoffer is drugs 😅
@@nicowins Yeah, "Stoff" is used for drugs in German. A "Stoffer" would be someone who takes drugs, especially steroids
Jokes write themselves.
Living up to the Name
"Physique inflation" is just chronically online gymcels forgetting they're going to be seen by normal people, outside of social media 99.9% of the time instead of a mister schizolympia bodybuilding show 😂
Not quite
Schizolympia bodybuilding is the best way to describe this disordered madness
That zyzz example is brutal man. We went from people like scooby telling us it's an unattainable physique for 99% of people naturally, I quote: "it's only something that a genetic freak could accomplish naturally", to looking at zyzz and thinking he's just small.
It used to be a dream physique of EVERYONE.
I also get caught in the physique inflation. Watching most fitness content makes me feel like I am weak and small. Then I compare myself to my friends who don't lift, and.... their arms are of the size of my wrist, and my arms are of a size of their thigh.
Its because of roids and better genetic pool. Its like Beauty back in the days up to ancient times. Most people only found beautiful people within their own community and it was very rare to see the ultra beautiful people. I think the average man if teleported back in time would be considered very attractive. Nowadays due to Hollywood, and social media and tinder we see beautiful people left and right its too overwhelming.
@@jmgonzales7701I never considered the exposure factor. Really well said bro great point.
@@austinjrbto add to this, if you’re gonna let yourself get exposed to the best of the best you need to also get exposed to everything else. The issue is that people ONLY look at the highlights of a fraction of a percent of people online and then act like this is representative of the whole species.
You can end dup being in the 90th percentile for lean mass and aesthetics and then feel like garbage because you ignore anyone worse than you.
It doesn’t matter if your exposure comes only online or if you surround yourself with jacked dudes in person. You’ll still end up with a distorted world view if you do this.
I used to be very in shape (5’6, 155 pounds at around 11% bodyfat) and would get compliments from normal people (almost all guys) all the time especially at the beach. If I were to post my physique on social media, the circle there would think I didn’t even lift, even with a pump and crazy angles. Similar to hoeflation, physique inflation has gotten crazy.
Damn funny to see someone mentioning hoeflation lol
It’s such a great term lol
Hoeflation?
I remember i did only bicep curls for 2 months while waiting for the school bus and peoplle were complimenting me. Just javing visible muscle is enough
Ha ha, yeah. At work people refer to me as the "gym guy" or "muscles" but when I'm at the gym I feel pathetic. 😎
People really need to get off of social media and take a look at the real world lol
True! You don't need to look like a juiced up fitness influencer to look jacked in person. Hell I remember street kids outside of a church commenting how big I look and they called me a freaking bodyguard.
unfortunately a lot of dudes dont have much else to do besides go to the gym and go on social media.
@@burritodog3634 sadly true
@@AMG-ko3gt that’s great man!
that would be hard, just like turning off your phone is hard.
Not to mention the strength athlete inflation as well. 225 bench is DYEL status now too. A lot of the guys from the OG youtube days would look weak af compared to the modern powerlifting lineup we have today except maybe clarence kennedy cause that dude is just a freak of nature
Not really they’re only marginally stronger now
Lmao this. 10 years ago if you benched 225? Everyone of your friends had respect towards you. You were THE KING if you benched 2 plates
@ that’s cause you were 14 back then
@@nnnyuy88yhj word, a 2 plate bench already meant being "the strong guy". 3 plate bench meant beast. In the rare occasion someone benched 4 plates the entire gym would just stare lmao
I benched 225 as a sophomore in high school 💀
TLDR; get offf the internet cause it’s all full of redditors who don’t know what they’re talking about while irl everyone thinks you’re huge, strong af and aesthetic
I don’t think it’s redditors anymore
Unfortunately not just redditors but YT comments can be braindead as well.
It’s also worth comparing this to the concept of hedonic adaptation. When all you see online is jacked people that’s what becomes normal to you. Now you need that stimulus to feel normal. Conceptually similar to drug tolerance, though obviously not physical and not an addiction.
The solution to this is always the same. Remove the stimulus so that you adapt back to a homeostatic state without the stimulus.
So yeah. Stop looking at jacked people online. And pay attention to how small and skinny or how fat and not muscular everyone actually is in reality. Reset your calibration.
It’s actually crazy how messed up online fitness is. Like guys that I grew up thinking were the most jacked humans possible, wwf and wcw wrestlers in the 90s, wouldn’t even make the cut for the most part as an influencer, and all those guys abused gear like fuck. So even gear use isn’t enough to match “natty” influencers 😂
Vince McMahon throwing around vials like candy in the locker room
Bro im from asia and most people here don't really get big in a muscular way due to GYMs not being that popular compared to the west. Growing up i idolized manny Pacquiao, bruce lee and jackie chan thinking they were great human specimens. Then as i grew up i watched Hollywood films and i was just surprised how massive they were it was really Overwhelming for me how some people get that tall and that big at the same time. For me the biggest people were found in WWE and Nba. As for beautiful people often you would see them in Magazines, the Mrs universe and acting. With Ms Universe often where we perceived the most beautiful women ever but now that Instagram, tinder and other dating apps got so popular some of the models i see can give the actresses and beauty queens a run for their money. Most people only found beautiful people within their own community and it was very rare to see the ultra beautiful people. I think the average man if teleported back in time would be considered very attractive. Nowadays due to Hollywood, and social media and tinder we see beautiful people left and right its too overwhelming. Its like what they said, ignorance is bliss.
@@jmgonzales7701 I mean yeah all the actors and wrestlers and shit are juiced up as fuck bro, that’s the whole thing about how fvxked up western ideals are, nothing that’s held in high regard comes naturally in our culture and it’s been that way for a long time. Fake tits, roids, plastic surgery, photoshop, it’s ridiculous. They wonder why people have self esteem issues haha. And now I think it’s spilling into the wider world due to the net. Brilliant 🙄
You're the only fitness UA-camr I even watch. After cutting fitness content out of my life, I am very happy with my physique. On the cut this summer, I stopped and thought to myself, why keep trying to focus so much on improving my physique, I have obtained a look that I set out to have, and I am happy with how I look. Also, I am not 19 anymore,and I have more interests in my life.
The age aspect is a big part of this. The younger lifters now have had social media since they were kids, and the scene was already crazy inflated/saturated when they got into it.
100% true 15 years ago my pictures and muscles were sometimes amazing on the net, today teenagers are bigger
Teens take better pics and edits
"Oh but training has evolved so much” - “Natural” UA-camrs explaning how they still make newbie-level gains at 10+ years of strict lifting and dieting. “It's the new technique bro”
It's called "breaking the natural limit" 😂
that geoffry guy exactly
@@useraiaj234mpGVS has never said that. You're all just blackpilled beyond saving.
@@SurfingKyogreNL saving from what? if you assume any influencer you get recommended online is unnatural, you will be right more than often.
You guys are embarrassing 💀
There are hundreds of influencers with claimed one in a billion genetics yet there are only 7 billion people on the planet 🧐
When doing the math you forgot to divide by and carry the tren
Sam Sulek has done a lot more damage than good. And even these up and comer teenagers that bench 500 lbs allegedly. They create these impossible achievements and make it seem like its the gold standard so everyone compares themselves to it.
@@preparedsurvivalist2245Sam doesn't claim natty lol.
If all people watch him because he is humble and DOESN'T act natural.
Anyone can do whatever they want with their body and you can also NOT run grams of gear to gain another 5-10kg over tour natural'limit' and cut down to 13-15ish bf.
when I first got into fitness freshman year of highschool I thought kali muscle was natty 💀
That was me freshman year of college.
1 gram per gummy?
"Sorry brother that's not gonna work for me" - Hulk Hogan
I don't know whether it's where I live, or if it's my gym, but so many people are on so much shit. It's really hard not to get salty, but I try and check myself and understand the lay of the land. I'm proud of how hard I work, and if other people are getting better results with less work (for whatever reason), so be it.
Gear use is very widespread now. I see teens who are clearly using all the time. Everyone wants to be an influencer and even general gym goers know about it, more so than the past.
How you know they on gear?
@@yoeyyoey8937 They tell me. And there are some where it's just obvious. And there are some who are HUGE in April and suddenly in October they're small.
At this point i dont even give a crap about the "scene", and i dont even care about figuring out if someone is natty or not, and even so, most people manipulate lighting and angles to look way different to how they are normally. Its unrealistic (obv).
Additionally everyones different, so you cant compare your progress directly to someone elses. Its not just genetic. Some people have an athletic background before lifting, and others were completely sedentary before lifting, so that plays a part too in how much of a head start you have.
Id rather just laser focus on myself and my own progress, and not get all caught up in other peoples business that has no effect on my own gains.
The only thing that fitness influencers have to offer is knowledge. Looking at pictures of jacked dudes online is useless. Zyzz became an icon because of how supportive and inspirational he ended up being. Not because he looked good. “We’re all gonna make it, bro.”
This is why people like Dr. Mike are valuable. The knowledge they teach you to change your own life. Who cares how jacked he is. What good does that do me?
Also, half the community is teenagers so you can’t expect them to have wisdom or make good choices. Telling them to get off instagram isn’t gonna do anything.
But yeah, when you’re older and wiser who the hell is looking at naked dudes on instagram? Go lift and live your life. Consume content to LEARN, not to oogle Sam Sulek.
I don’t like how people use “natty” as an insult. It pre-supposes that the only physiques that can be impressive are enhanced, which says a lot more about the people throwing around the insult and how brainrotted they are by social media. To be fair tho, Togi leans into the whole steroid user shtick, so those comments calling him natty are probably just taking the piss out of him.
It’s an insult to gear heads
@ oh yeah for sure, I’m well aware that the best way to get a gearhead mad is to call them natty. I do think that a lot of people miss the irony tho and actually believe that calling someone natty is an insult on its own.
Im honestly glad I have well adjusted nonbrain rot guys to talk to in the gym. Their validation for my physique which some have called "mid" online means alot for my mental
Fuck them kids bro you’re jacked wtf
It must be more difficult for the younger lifters
Not knowing about Hissuein as a UA-camr is crazy work
I have been awared
Honestly happy to have come to find someone who essentially possesses the same thought process as I do and isn’t immersed in whatever the hell all these other people are on.
Keep up the good work, RF.
The whole problem is lazyness. People think they can get musculair in 90 days when it takes years if not decades to get to a musculair physique.
Amazing video!
I’ve said it once before, and I’ll say it again…. THE MOST UNDERATED FITNESS CHANNEL ON UA-cam
Thank you
Glad this popped into my feed, finally somebody talking sense.
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This is why I like I compare it to like working on cars everybody's chasing High horsepower numbers and no one knows the amount of dedication it takes to get there they just want something fast right out the box special if they can't work on it themselves
Ppl underestimate how much influencers are willing to lie on the internet for personal gain, and they do it to mostly kids
We dont even know who is natty or not other than the bronze age lifters.
The advice section of this, asking if someone would he able to accept their body, is an important message. I hope it helps a lot of people's perspectives.
A lot of them are in great shape but still won't be seen in a tank top until they get a pump.
13:45 Reeves did not have access to our 🐐 MK angeletti's 4 day upper lower program 🗣️🗣️
Poor guy
no wonder he was mid and dyel!
@@burritodog3634 was he thou, rumors is he was roided!
The thing is Arnold’s legs are proportionate IF you look at actual Greek god statues. They were all of similar proportion. Legs have only recently (last 25 years) been built to ridiculous levels
My good friend / coach told me that I look like I take 500 mg of test weekly IRL when he saw me for the first time as he admitted, it really puts things into perspective how detached the average instagram lifter is from the reality. I'm currently sitting 91.5 kg at 178 cm with half visible abs (cutting to probably 81 kg or so to really get lean + get into 83 kg powerlifting class) and everyone around me tells me I'm buff while I'd probably get scolded by the terminally online people for not being strong / lean enough.
I dont think sarms goblins are intelligent enough to create a framework of "what is a good bodybuilding weight to height ratio?". 91kg at 178cm is a huge guy at parity. They just say you need to be 250lbs shredded, or you dont even lift.
Babe, wake up! Revival Fitness aka gospelofmatthew aka the BulKing aka the beardmaxxer aka the anti-nerd has a new video!
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Are people In Comment sections always lying? I tried so many things people say oh I did this I gained ten pounds of muscle oh I did that and lost fifty pounds. Nothing I’ve done has gotten me such good results.
Yes. Comment sections are full of lies and exaggerations that people use to feel better about themselves.
@ thanks man I did keto for awhile thinking it would take off like everyone said. I lost like fifteen ibs my first week I guess it was all water weight than nothing after that. Than I made huge gains when I started eating fruit again. I figured everyone was full of it but no one ever calls it out so I thought maybe it was something wrong w me.
Edit by gains I meant lifting more weight
They're 100% exaggerating. Social media warped expectations.
These people who have these ridicilous standards probably dont even go outside and just live on the internet. On the internet if youre not at least 200 lbs shredded and dont deadlift at least 700lbs naturally of course you dont even lift. By the real world standards though someone like scott herman still has great physique.
You have to remember that the internet is their main reference point
Yes and what looks good on camera is not the same as what it looks like in reality. You cannot tell how much space someone takes up in a picture.
If you want to look good online you have to use those standards. If you want to look good in reality you have to use real life as a reference. Go see Dwayne Johnson in real life and decide if you want your arm to take up that much physical space. Everything else is the same size. Your door doesn’t scale up when you get jacked. Dr. Mike literally cannot OHP because he’s so jacked.
Those physiques might look cool in a picture but most people don’t actually want to be like that in reality.
Using internet pictures to decide what you want in reality is silly.
I take all my supplements in gummy form and I'm strong as an Ox. Great point about Zyzz. no one was gatekeeping and hating back then. Same with scott Herman. great examples
Zains pics were real, not photoshopped or filtered 🙌
Today, our iPhones have the ability to edit and filter photos, so everyone can do it. Back in the day you had to take photos to specialists who literally airbrushed them, and it was not cheap!
@David-lx4yb true, but the technology today is vastly suppior. 👩🎨
"they just reward, the freaky and freakier people" - revival fitness 👍
Only in recent history have we had access to a surplus of food and gear to get this big. Even a fair chunk of old school bodybuilders were probably taking gear back then too.
Bro im from asia and most people here don't really get big in a muscular way due to GYMs not being that popular compared to the west. Growing up i idolized manny Pacquiao, bruce lee and jackie chan thinking they were great human specimens. Then as i grew up i watched Hollywood films and i was just surprised how massive they were it was really Overwhelming for me how some people get that tall and that big at the same time. For me the biggest people were found in WWE and Nba. As for beautiful people often you would see them in Magazines, the Mrs universe and acting. With Ms Universe often where we perceived the most beautiful women ever but now that Instagram, tinder and other dating apps got so popular some of the models i see can give the actresses and beauty queens a run for their money. Most people only found beautiful people within their own community and it was very rare to see the ultra beautiful people. I think the average man if teleported back in time would be considered very attractive. Nowadays due to Hollywood, and social media and tinder we see beautiful people left and right its too overwhelming. Its like what they said, ignorance is bliss.
Brah you're a breath of fresh air in the online fitness community
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When people refer to how long they’ve been lifting, do they mean how long they’ve actually been bulking and gaining muscle, or just how long they’ve been lifting in general doing both bulking and cutting
2:28 people discredit any openly enhanced physique is because they believe if they took steroids they'd look like peak Ronnie Coleman
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Bro ngl your pic after the show when you started eating a lot you looked really really big, at that point i was thinking wait is he on gear
of course he is on gear have you seen this shoulders? that is not natural. no hate
That first picture of a smooth Zane is attainable in 1-2 years, but that's above average genetics and somehow having gotten lucky enough to really learn how to train from the start and get diet and recovery down.
For an average guy, maybe never to 5+ years.
Any plans on a long form podcast with Alex Leonidas (alphadestiny)? I’d love to see you two interact and throw ideas together
hes washed
@ Alex is washed? How so? Dude has some of the best numbers/physiques for a natural
Revival doesn't like him cuz he went vegan
People need to accept that unless they take gear, they just won't be that big at
This is why I have decided I will prob take a low dose when I turn 25 in a few years. Alex Eubank is on 250mg of test and he looks to be doing fine, literally no bad side effects as of now.
@@stopplzs are you really that dumb to base that decision on some fake social media person? jesus christ dont be so gullible bro
@stopplzs except he's very likely lying. They all lie, the new fake natty's are honest about their usage and the ones who are severely downgrading their usage. Alex is very likely on more than 250mgs
@@stopplzs he'll probably star losing his gorgeous hair tho😭😭 plus gyno
@@stopplzsyou’re joking right
Very motivational video, compliments. I'm talking like a middle aged man, maybe, but I agree that everyone of us should be proud of ourselves when we reach even the minimum goal. Said by a 42 years old man affected by a neuromuscular disease who still trains and trying to take back some of his former energy.
Nice touch showing the bronze and silver era's physiques.
So happy you brought up Scott Herman as he was really the first UA-cam influencer I followed in 2016 when i started lifting and he was considered jacked and now DYEL. I don't know if he still lifts but I'm talking about his physique back then now it will be DYEL. Yeah the physique inflation is real.
Of course he still lifts.
And he was not just "jacked" back then.
He was being accused of not being natty all the time.
The world has gone mad. Male body inflation is on par with hoe-flation.
He's still active on youtube. Still looks great too.
Average guy here checking in, a couple thoughts in response:
1. To your point about legs, as an average guy with a physical labor job, I've decided not to train legs anymore, or at least not hypertrophy wise, maintenance at best. Training them for growth just comes with way too much DOMS that it impacts my ability to get work done, the trade-off isn't worth it. I think most average men who aren't competing or making money off bodybuilding should evaluate their training from that lense.
2. The point about social media, i got off of all social media almost 3 years ago now, and it's honestly been really freeing to just enjoy training for the fun of it, for the love of it, not to try to keep up with my peers. Again, this is from the average, non competitive bodybuilder/fitness influencer perspective, which most of us are. Unless you're making money off of fitness, there's no need to engage in the "Fitness Rat Race" so to speak. Train for the love of it, not to keep up with everybody else.
You can train your legs less hard and keep progressing cause if DOMs is getting in the way you’re just doing way too much it shouldn’t be that bad unless you’re overdoing it
If you want to train legs without being too sore just so you can maintain your leg size/strength, I would recommend you either do heavier weight and less reps (Like 85-90% of your max squat for 3 reps) for 3 sets just to maintain your leg strength, followed by some accessory leg work close to failure for less sets like only 1-2. That should not cause too much soreness.
Split your leg work to back and front and do what you perceive as harder near your off days.
I train quads in the weekends and i train hams in the weekdays and my job is essentially me walking around and giving out stuff all day between riding to get to some places.
Quad training kills me, hamstring training tires me out but i can still function for physical labor cause my hamstrings can withstand alot due to my background.
I also work blue collar. You don’t have to abandon leg gains altogether. There’s no rule that says you need to get crippling sore to make gains. You could train less volume and just get a little sore.
But maybe you have an amazing paying job
That is hard leg labor and can’t even do that. I wouldn’t sacrifice gains to be a superstar at some average blue collar job personally.
@CarlYota to your first point, you're correct, however, crippling DOMS just seem to come with the territory, for me at least. I did 3 sets of hack squats and my quads were cooked for 5 days. My legs are just super sensitive to stimulus. On one hand, that means they grow easier, which is true, my legs have always been my strongest body part. On the other hand, it means they get RIDICULOUSLY sore.
To your second point though, it's really a matter of preference and priority. Aside from being strong enough to be productive, leg gains benefit me nothing. I'm not gonna be able to provide for my wife and kid by having massive quads. Productivity at work does provide for them though. To each his own, I just wouldn't sacrifice what pays the bills for what's simply an aesthetic pursuit.
I always called this concept “power creep”. Same thing.
Frank Zane & Steve Reeves are the best physiques shown on this video. FRANK ZANES vacuum was insane
I was a reasonably strong bodybuilder in my 20's. Now, at 65, I have rekindled my love for bodybuilding. My chest is growing at a ridiculous rate. I kind of have that pec-deltoid tie-in that Reeve had. Great vid!
I saw Terminator 2 a year ago. My first thought seing Arnold teleport naked: "Arnold is really small, @VeganGains is bigger". When I was a kid he was HUUUGE. Now quite a few influencers are bigger than him.
Tnf arnold had to downsize considerably in order to become a movie star, Hercules in New York is a movie that was made just a year prior to his first Mr Olympia win tho.
0:25 if you think this is bad, you’d faint seeing Canadian McDonald’s prices
Looking forward to the video about women evolution
Idk if that will happen
What’s that?
@@yoeyyoey8937 this video but about women
@burritodog like women’s physique inflation? Like in bodybuilding?
@@yoeyyoey8937 im pretty sure thats what hes talking about. but no one watches women's bodybuilding because they look 🤮and all the points would be the same as this video.
Unless people are heavily into the fitness world, they will be impressed and compliment noobie gains... Physique inflation is an online phenomenon almost exclusively.
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Had to go back to see if the 79 was really Zane. I didn't remember him ever being that size. I do know he talked about moving away from competition because, I don't how he said it exactly but basically didn't want to take and get as big as he needed to to compete
The logic isn't "printing a bunch of money that has no value", its that printing excess money causes the price level to trend upwards, which *then* causes the value per dollar to decrease
Yeah that’s too many words for a brief introduction sentence
Ronnie says Arnold is the Best. Arnie says Reeves is the best. In my opinion Steve Reeves had a one in a million physique.
On your 4 day upper lower, why do you have bench, incline db and push-ups on the same day. Aren’t the push-ups redundant
Some things just weird, in my gym is a 100kg lean natty maybe 184cm tall and another guy about same high 85kg on juice but he looks way bigger. How is this possible 😂
Unsuccessful people in life just hate to see anyone else succeed.
I may be, definitely am, delusional but my natty spectrum allows for a lot more than this but not because I'm vindictive I just need that placebo, that denial of the most probable reality keeps me from unnecessary speculations and focused on getting my self to that outcome if it is at all possible without gear, people that drag others down often are the ones that do this to themselves.
Scott Herman is not a good example. He looked better 15 years ago then he does now.
Nope, it is a good example. The majority of his physique back then was also manipulated by lightning, cameras and angels. Sure, he could still be better than now, but you're overrating it too much.
On the internet I have a "mid" Natty physique. On stage at 170 I had a second place natural physique. I looked like a strong grasshopper with how small my legs and arms were. Great Back though 💯
In the gym guys look at me and say things like "When you're my age", "and you're natural right?", and just general wanting to look like me😂
Everything changes though when you rebound from a show and start bulking for real because as I'm approaching 200 lb I'm starting to feel like those compliments are real😂
They are
Great reality check.
Great video , I admire people who workout for fun and don't take it seriously I wish I was like that , you know what they say " The first time you lift weights you will never be big enough again"
I’m trying to image my life if I only ‘worked out’ for like 20 minutes once or twice a week
@REVIVALFitness think of all the spare time you would have! Then again you probably wouldn't be doing what you love. Keep up the great work you have the most honest channel on UA-cam
Would love to see what really is achievable natty and what what the expectations should look like after 1,2,3,4,5 … years
Damn mcchicken was 4,5€ in 2014 in finland and now probably about 7€
Some people think Lexx Little is natural while he benched 405 super lean 🤦🏻♂️
Ah another day, another temptation to jump on the juice. 😎
Steve reeves has crazy insertions and a perfect v taper. Only men would sht on this physique.
Here for the gainnnnnnssss!!! 💪🏋️♀️🤣🔥
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I feel like there is going to be a huge problem in the next ten years when all these Gen Z and late alpha kid's hearts start to go pop from all the drug use they exposed themselves during this 2020's era. It's not like my high school days back in the mid 2000's when juicing was really shunned and honestly hard to come by. Sure, there was that one massive guy who we all knew did gear and likely bathtub gear judging by all the backne, but it was uncommon. That being said, we didn't have the pressures of social media like these kids do. Sure, we had myspace and facebook just started but it wasn't like today. Instagram wasn't a thing and when it did come onto the scene it was a platform for actual photography bloggers, not thirst traps trying to sell their OFs or Sarmjunkies trying to sell bonk supplements.
Point I'm making is this- With just going to my public gym now it looks as if all these younger generation people are on stuff. It's either we were all stupid back in my day and didn't train properly and thus we were all "mid" or the generation today is partaking of substances to win at all costs and shortcut their physiques. And sure, you can say our information was limited then, true, but I think we all knew to eat a bunch and lift heavy shit. At least, that was my weights teacher's philosophy back in HS. So, I'm going to say it's more of the latter.
Even if it's just twenty percent of the younger generation dabbling with this crap, it will be a huge deal in the next ten years when we all have to start paying for their mistakes. Either with their hearts popping or the other list of chronic illnesses we'll have to pay for. We have no idea the long term effects of these SARMS are. Same goes for the people that want to chop off their parts to feel like they do on the inside. We're going to have to pay for the ramifications of their decisions in the future when these people realize it was just a phase in their youth to feel included and part of a community. But unfortunately, they will be stuck with the permanence of what they did And we will have to pay for it. Pay for their mental health, medical, all of it. It's going to be a big political issue in ten years, mark my words.
From now on I’m gonna do a drinking game (protein ofc) every time Matt says “bro”
Be near a toilet
Paying almost 40 dollars for 90 grams of creatine is crazy bro
But it's convenient bro, you dont have to scoop a few grams of powder into your shake bottle😂
13:05 Steve Reeves 1947 - people turned around when he was walking past them at the beach as if he was a god.
Steve Reeves physique in 2024 - "that's a cool ottermode physique bro, did you hit 2 plate bench yet?"
“Bro has been training to mild discomfort”
People have simultaneously the lowest and highest expectations at the same time. Some people will tell me benching 315 from being a couch potatoe in a year isnt possible but I'm getting close lol, at the same time be like it doesn't count because you don't have dick skin ab veins. Like sheesh take it easy 20%bf ain't gunna kill me let me shed it off after I hit some numbers lmao.
Benching 315 within a year is quite rare
@REVIVALFitness thanks, being strong on bench is God's way of apologizing for not making me taller.
Benching 315 is very rare. I've only seen 1 guy in my life who could do that irl I've seen plenty of guys doing 225 tho .
@@REVIVALFitnessI could go from benching 315 to being a couch potato in a year though.
20% is fine. FreakieD is like 22% bf and everyone thinks he’s like 15-18 cause he has abs and Christmas tree
You gor yourself a new follower. What a great video 👍
I think that there's a difference when you view something through a screen vs viewing it in person. You lose perspective of what's real when looking at a flat image.
That’s part of it also
Gymcels and its consequences has been a disaster for fitness.
It’s not exclusive to gymcels
go look at 1974 olympia and 73 his legs were proportionate. ppl only know arnold from 1975 pumping iron lol
Bro I lift 2-3 times a week and 1 day cardio and squats.
I went to the pool. I looked better than 99% people there.
My european city plays in the first league for water polo. I looked better than most of these elite( national level of course) athletes at water polo. 😂
Internet ruined people perception. I am afraid we need some regulation because both male and female body dysmorphia is through the roof.
It’s too late. Social media would have to be wiped off the planet, and even then, anyone who has had their perception warped isn’t going to just forget.
How do I modify your program as an advanced lifter?
At that point it’s probably a matter of being very tuned in to recovery variables, adjusting sets if needed, rotating in and out exercises, etc. That applies to any program really.
I guess its because Im older. I compete and Im not really influenced by other. I still just try to improve yr to yr. It would also be hard to accept myself as a fat person but I could navigate the world
A tip for anyone suffering from body dysmorphia and constant comparison : delete social media for a while and notice how you as a gym goer fare against the general population and even your gym. You’ll realise just how much you stand out and that 99% of people are nothing close to what social media shows you.
Did you see Togi on Matans show? 😂 hilarious
Do powerlifting. It helps take your mind off the obsessiveness of bodybuilding. Then again you can become obsessive over numbers and training can burn you out even more in terms of nervous system fatigue and joint and connective tissues
yup i would say my body is in the 1% but still plenty of bigger dudes at the gym and the feeling of being small remains.
I started at 140 and now i am at 180 with abs
I’ve noticed the inflation of the superman pose you do to make your shoulders look wider. Put your arms down bro, it’s fine
Great vid
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It even effects people who I know who have never even been in the gym. At 14 with 150lbs bench, 285lbs deadlift and 245lbs squat and I have abs, but apparently I'm a fat fuck 😭 by the anorexic pencils, of course
People at school probably think you’re jacked out of your mind
11:14 Loool bro when i started gym in 2024. I thought it was attainable in 10 years.
I had pics of arnold and other old school bodybuilders as goal. Now it's 2024, i still look average lol.
Reality hits us all eventually. Only few of us get the recipe of building muscle right and the consistentcy.
When I was a kid I thought I could get as big as Jay cutler if i just took Cell-Tech lol
There are guys like Geoffrey Verity Schofield who claims natty and all of his gullible viewers buy it
I have a hypothetical, if you were to use gear for the first 2 years of your training to expedite the process then get off of gear would you be able to still maintain that physique
This is the classic “can I use gear to reach my natty potential” question. I’m sure that depends largely on how much gear you take.
Idk because everyone who claimed to do that is lying. If you are a certain size only cause of gear then you will probably lose the gains. Think about how every gearhead goes back to natty size after stopping use
Back in the 1980s, I thought Lee Labrada has a more aspirational physique than Arnold. IF I had had any abilities and interest in trying to be a bodybuilder, replicating his physique would have been my goal. Today he would be dismissed as "too small".
I dont cere how my body looks like ofc im not gonna look like cbum or david leid like its a full time job to look the like them. But if i can be truthfull i just whont to be strong who tf ceres how look at the end off the dey my strenth is going to Create my
Aesthetics
Man, those creatine gummies are expensive and really high calorie for what you get.
I'm in Canada, so Canadian pricing, but at the current sale it's 43 dollars (plus shipping) for 30 3g servings. That's 1.43 per 3g serving. 45 calories per serving.
Canadian Protein sells 1Kg bags of Creatine Monohydrate for 60 CAD which is 333 3g servings, or 18 cents per serving. 30 cents for 5g servings. 0 calories. This is full price and they have sales where you can stock up all the time.
Though the form factor is interesting you could just put creatine in sugar free jello and make it using half the water to make it more solid and less jiggly.
This would make each serving about 25 cents and would cut the calories from 45 to about 5 (since a quarter of a pack of sugar free jello is 10 calories).
That or just put the creatine in something you are eating anyway. I put mine in a daily vitamin/mineral shake.
As an added bonus, instead of pectin the jello uses gelatin which is basically a collagen protein so even though it would be a minisule or nearly unmeasurable amount the calories come from protein rather than sugar.
If I were going to pay that much for creatine I'd probably do it in one of these electrolyte/creatine drink powders like the Myoxcience ones. There is at least some evidence that taking creatine in liquid with electrolytes increases absorbtion.
Yeah this is why internet bodybuilding is a crapshoot.
I’ll stick to arm wrestling.
Dude how can you forget surge nubret, I know you know him but damn he look wayyyyyy better then arnold in my opinion. Great video btw!
I agree
Real talk..
A lot of this is just meme and trolling culture. These kids commenting on IG posts have no clue what they're saying, they're just parroting other people who say it. It's turtles all the way down. All you can do as a lifter is worry about the real world. I go to the gym and I just see clowns to the left of me jokers to the right. And I know I'm doing good.
Some of it is trolling, but a lot of these kids actually believe what they're saying. That's what they'll argue about it all day in the comments.