ONE AUDIO TIP FOR WEDDINGS THAT COULD SAVE YOUR CAREER!
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What I use for the Mic Tape Speaker HACK! What did you guys think of the audio quality?
Zoom H1 (What I use as a Lav Recorder)
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Azden EX-503 Lavalier Mic (Plugs into H1)
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Think Tank Red Whips (Ties the H1 to the Speaker)
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Bongo Ties (Alternative Option to the Red Whips)
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Zoom H4n (Main Sound Recorder)
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99% of DJ's use powered speakers which all have xlr's out which then would go into your zoom. Carry a couple of xlr cables with you in your gear bag for these instances.
Jason Vong Hello Friend. can you do a review of the new sigma art objectives for sony E? Are they equally accurate for continuous video autofocus compared whith sony objectives? Do they make noise in continuous video autofocus? etc? thank you, master.
Hey Jason, so to be clear, I really just need the "Zoom ZH1 H1 Handy Portable Digital Recorder" to tape to a loudspeaker, and I guess you use the "Platinum Tools Industrial BongoTies " to tie the microphone to the speaker? The other products you linked to are for other purposes and are not necessary for the wedding hack, correct?
Newbie question, but how do you transfer the data from the Zoom ZH1 to your editing computer? Does it need to be plugged into a camera during the recording process, or can I just upload the sound files from the recorder to my computer after I make the recording?
Great idea for a backup. For better results, try taping the mic slightly off center, right where the diaphragm meets the center cone. It’s the same if you’ve ever mic’ed a guitar amp. The end result is a slightly better frequency response, and less “hollow” sounding recording.
good tip! will do!
I'm putting this tip in my back pocket lol this is genius!!
this is actually an awesome tip!
I did an event about a month ago, where they had 5 speakers and a host, so I had to hookup my recorder to the main audio mixer
the audio mixing guy didn't pay attention to my recorder and I ended up with blown out audio.
So i'm for sure using this trick next time 😌🙌
OUCH!!! I feel the pain
Most DJs/Sound guys can be DBags
thankfully all of mine has been chill.... However, I was the dbag at one wedding... As I got my last shot of the night, I accidentally took a misstep and fell of the stage but in the process, grabbed his speaker down with me. I don't think he liked me very much after that.
Jason Vong ohh nooo lol
i am using zoom h5 on a stand line output from the dj and put my on board mic pointing at the speakers close so i have audio from speaker in case line input from dj not good.
nice!
I know this has been awhile but I’m curious how did that sounded as compare with the lav mic?
This is why you patch your audio recorder directly into the line-out port ON THE SPEAKERS. Crisp, clear audio every single time and you avoid any mistakes made by the DJ.
I was just setting up my H1 nearish the speaker... I'm totally using this trick instead!
Great tips! Will try this method for the upcoming wedding shooting. Yeah! It’s wedding season! Currently three jobs at hand.
How about mic the mic.
When i use the Azden EX-503 Lavalier Mic on the zoom h1n the audio comes out on my right side only.
Why does my amazon cart always fill up after I watch your videos man?? LOL!! Great tip, thanks!
hahaha! it doesnt help when Amazon sometimes have same day delivery
For real!! That's the worst thing ever!! LOL!!
I don't have the money right now to have more then one audio recorder.....I might do this trick till I can afford anther one thanks XD
Warning about H1 - never go below level 20, because anything lower than that is just digital attenuation. That means that if you have clipping at level 20, you will also have clipping at level 10 or level 0, even though H1 might not blink red LED for clipping. I learned that the hard way. If it is too loud at level 20, you must move microphone away from the speaker.
whoa! good tip! never knew! nothing bad has happened yet but I will be more mindful!
I had an issue once, when connecting Zoom H1 to a mixer at a wedding reception. The sound guy said that he cannot change volume on the only output he can give me, so I had to lower the level on H1 to something about 13 or 11. Clipping wasn't clearly apparent then (red LED was not blinking), although I heard that sound wasn't totally OK when listening it (it was hard to judge on site, because of all the noise and loud sound exposure). When I was editing the video, H1 audio had lots of nasty clipping. After that I went to find out why, and after that I have never-ever used it below 20. Actually, I mostly use it at level 37, because somebody found out that it is a sweet-spot - at that level it has the lowest noise from internal preamplifier. So even if it makes sound a little quieter than I would have wanted, I still just set it at 37, and I'm done - I know I'll get the best possible sound at that setting. When I need lesser sensitivity, I just use Zoom H6, which doesn't have that horrible digital attenuation, and also has a 20 dB pad, so it can receive a pretty loud signal.
With an over flood of content around cameras and lens this is a great addition! Great topic!!! Would love more of these.
planning to do more!
I can't even count the times I had at least one audio source fail and relied on a backup. In general, most DJs I have dealt with are "alright", some have been great and actually have taught me a lot about audio and others have been the complete opposite - total idiots or assholes. Backups, backups and more backups lol!
Yesss! I do something similar, I stick my tascam on a mic stand under a speaker as a backup. But taping it is much cleaner and less setup!
yasss!!!
Be careful with the switches on back, accidentally changed the setting from WAV to MP3 when putting in a camera bag.
Yo Jason. This is a life saver bro. I once had a situation just like how you described it. Thanks bro.
I had a DJ plug me into his system with XLR through his speaker, but what he didn't realize, was that he was sending me a Mono Mix from only the left channel from his mixer....where there was no Mic...No idea why, but was insane lol
NOOOOOOOOOOO
I use a magnetic mount instamic. Magnetically pops onto a PA speaker and you can remote start and monitor levels from your phone.
wait... what is this sorcery?!
Larry Marshall - If you would descricbe the sound quality (and self-noise) of a Instamic, what other device would it compare similar to (at the same practical distance), or just your opinion about it’s sound?
Any idea which of these or other would be close or the closest:
LAVALIER MICS > SmartLav+, Tascam Lavalier (Tascam DR-10), Sennheiser MKE2,
ZOOM RECORDERS > Zoom H1(n), Zoom H5/6 with XYmic,
SONY RECORDERS > ICD-TX650, (new) Sony ICD TX-800, Sony ICD-UX560, Sony ICD-SX2000,
Sennheiser’s Memory mic.
This is very good advice. Also how most music amps are mic'ed.
love this tip my man! how do you distinguish each audio clip in post? Do you just say the name of the scene into the recorder before recording?
I label the mic and then when I transfer, I create a folder like "Groom" or "Officiant" or "Back Up" So I don't get confused
@Jason Vong, I know this is off topic, but since you are into the Sony FF which I am actually going to switch to from Panasonic, I am going to get the a7iii once they are in stock. I am in the market for some lenses and for sure going to get the 70-200mm f2.8 GM, but curious on your thoughts on the coming Sigma emount fullframe art lens www.sigma-global.com/en/lenses/cas/service/se_mount/. Those look really attractive, but I am not a pro and see there are three focal sizes. Any thoughts on the lens coming and what about choosing a good focal size; e.g. 24mm, 50mm, and 85mm. I do mostly travel, but love astrophotography which I know you don't talk about.
Hi jason! So I bought the same lav mic and recorder (zoom h1n) setup for a wedding shoot. But when i play back my recording, it's only playing on my left side. Is there a way to fix it? Or do i have to fix it on my post editing?
i think a way is the audio effect called fill right with left
Great tip!!! I've been using just the audio recorder without the mic lav but will definitely do this next time. Thanks man!
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hahaha, I couldn't have said that any better
JV putting in work!
hell yeah!
Thanks dude. My story is H4n I thought was playing wasn’t recording, and then RodeLink wasn’t working. So your video is awesome! Ugh gotta Buy H1.
crazy how many things can go wrong right?!
#newgear H1n lol.
I will start doing this for sure!
Gawd this is genius!
So, wedding season in your place depend on chinese calender too, jason ?
hahaha!
I'm wondering wouldn't it be better to go directly into the xlr out on the back of the speaker and use and xlr adapter?
Any thoughts about the differences between that and taping the lav mic?
I also keep an attenuator in my bag just in case it's still too hot at level 20 on the zoom h1.
Yeah definitely! just need the proper cables. This is just a simple solution with the h1 since it doesn't have XLR input
Barry Hackett. But wouldn’t that only give you one channel? Or would it still be both left and right sides coming through the recording?
7 this month, did one last saturday, i have one tomorrow.. i use a zoom h1 and clip a lav to the groom
7 WEDDINGS?!
Jason Vong yeah man, 7, Pittsburgh area. July I have 3 and probably will book more for July.
Nice tips Jason! That’s a great idea. Hit me up if you ever need audio repaired in post if you ever get into a pinch. Also if there’s any ideas for audio engineering tutorials that you have questions on let me know. I’m always looking for new content to create on this topic.
oh dope man!! thanks! hit me up on IG so i can follow you
Jason Vong for sure! Just hit you up over there. I just released a training on why you should mix in mono and the theory of phase cancellation etc. it’ll give you an idea of my teaching style. I go from theory to a real world example. My hope is to empower people with the skills and have a deep understanding of complex topics but broke down in simple form.
This is funny I always thought of putting a lav mic in front of a speaker as a back up but I never thought of taping it xD
Do we need to turn the auto level on?
DUDE! At 3:44! You literally tape up the SAME section of the recorder as I do! And i'm guess it's because the power switch fell out and keeps falling out! Is it just me? Like why does that crap keep happening? All of my buttons keep falling off :(
I record our jam sessions, I have a tascam 4 track problem after a very short time I have to stop it and save and name the file What I am looking to be able to record the entire jam, (can last for 2 to 3 hours ) will this do it, (depending on the sd) Any help would be appreciated
I actually attached the Sony TX650 to the mic. Works great as well.
Got H1 as a Christmas present this year...I am so doing this. My wedding season starts next month....I will tell you how it goes. Great video and tip.
This is amazing -- we've had all of the above happen with terrible DJs, batteries running out, all of the things -- so I'm going to have our team enforce this for an extra measure for *peace of mind* -- thank you!!! We love your content so much!! - Shelby @RubyRiotCreatives
Hi Jason, love this hack! Could I also try this with my Tascam DR-10L LAV mic instead?
Nice tip! Thanks a lot!
you're welcome!
This is a great tip! I did something similar to this and it saved me. After I had hooked up my Zoom h4n to the DJ board, I forgot to press the #1 button. So it stayed on mic.....and you guessed it, all I got was the DJ talking on it. 🙀
I collect H1s like it’s a hobby. So versatile and you never know when they just might save the whole production. Great stuff!
Jason you're the bomb! Thank you.
gotchu bro!
I've been doing something similar with the Tascam DR 10L for a while now
I've done this but without a lav mic, just my H4n, it sounded better if I put it close to the speaker, if not then it's gonna be echo-ey. And the good thing is that you can also catch a little bit of the ambiance such as the guest clapping or laughing.
what laptop do you have now?
Razer Blade 14
I’ve had to plug into the speaker through it’s XLR and it worked great def saved me cause the dj said he didn’t have any open slots for me to use
thanks for the trick! nice video, but how am i suppose to sync the audio with the video?
I do the samerhing as well
nice!
Great real review with experience!
thanks brah!
great tip. definitely gonna use this. looks like a life saver
That wedding video quality looked really nice.
Can i use it gor recording song
im sure you can
Great tip, thanks man!
gotchu bro!
Got this tip from kraig Adams.
Kraig's tip was 5/10
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Great solution. That one can be a life saver!
Sweet tip man! 👌
thanks!
James Matthews t-shirt though?! 😛
Good idea!
yep!
I tried a drape like Kraig Adams once!! It worked, but I was paranoid. Never thought of using gaff tape though. Great video!!!
when the bass drops, you can bit that mic is gonna shake!! gotta tape it down!
Great tip!
You da Man!
🤔✍🏾✍🏾
bahahaha
Jason Vong I have a wedding today! You posted this just in time lol
same here! Wedding in a few hours
Yes to this. Did the same thing and it saved my bacon at a wedding once! Always gotta have backups..
I personally use the Sony tx650’s and clip them to each speaker or tape to a mic, they’re really discreet and handy.
Nice vid man 👍
Thanks!!
This tip won’t apply to me but I’m glad this tip is helpful for others!!! :D