This has been a good video for me, I've been in a bit of a rut trying to find my "passion" and other millennial first world problems ;) I think getting back to basics and just doing some good work for some clients and then playing around on the side might be a good idea. Thanks!
Awesome video Mr. Vong, very informative and fun to watch. 1a. 4-5 minute definitely, love the basics of the video, but with a 4-5 minute video, you can only put in highlights of the talks, and that's ok. Audio is the glue to everything. You can skip on a stabilizer, but it does bring a ton of production value.
Jason, I'm going to have to put you on blast for this. Never, ever, ever, ever, do wedding videos unless you are saving up for a liver transplant that you need to save your life. It's the worst work in the world. It's a long day. It pays 1/10th of what a corporate gig pays. Brides are super picky. Most of you won't have cameras that can record for more then 30 mins with out over heating, or need a 1 second gap. That 1 second gap will be when they kiss at the ceremony. And if you miss that, you might as well refund the money. That's the money shot. Not to mention to compete with other wedding videographers, a 2-3 min recap won't doo. Brides want a 10-15 min highly edited version, and a long form 1-2 hour version. DO NOT SUCCUMB TO DO WEDDING VIDEOS. And if you do, never tell any one about it. You'll be undesirable to anyone except the local trash new station making $10 a hour. Source: Been there done that. Had to fight my way out of it. Finally did. Made a doc and sold it.
Yikes. Sounds like you had really bad experiences. Can you accept that many, many people have awesome experiences earning money and growing their skills at weddings without bridezillas? I didn’t hear room for that in your comment.
I think the biggest problem is people starting video or photography massively underestimate what is involved to produce a quality professional video or photo. You also need lights if you are filming speeches, otherwise the footage will be junk. Then there is the computer, editor app and how to use it. It cost a lot of money. Then there is working the camera, getting well exposed footage is pretty hard. Especially in changing light conditions. Then there is white balance. Shell i continue?
Last two years i was shooting every job on A6500 with Weebil Lab. Whole setup costs me about 800$... And if you are interested about the filmmaking, using your gear and you giving heart to your work, than you can deliver really nice films.
I have filmed 2 weddings so far. Definitely undershot both of them. However the second one was DRASTICALLY better than the first. There are a million more things I learned from my second wedding as well. I would suggest doing as much research and practice before shooting your first wedding as possible, but actually doing it is definitely the best way to learn. DO NOT go in totally unprepared though.
Don't forget you will also need woosh transition presets and an M31 LUT as well. And of course... Need to build their wedding film website via Squarespace 🤝🤙🤣 Great video bro 👌👊
Don't you find that the biggest consumer of man/woman hours is inevitably the edit? This is where most people will come a cropper when pricing an entire event.
Great video as usual Jason :) quick question: do you recommend having more than 1 camera for events such as the vidsummit you did in order to get a wide shot and a close-up shot?
@@JasonVong I have a wedding to film next month and found this tips helpful, like shooting the important people over those shots I get later, and maybe will save up to buy better audio equipment for next events.
@@mikolaud3810 Check out Wedding Film School, Matt whoismatt Johnson, White in Revery, and Gear Glasses & Gadgets! (im sure you have already but just in case) Wealth of knowledge from their channels that I personally learned a lot from!
$37 an hour more than minimum wage? are you high bro? you contribute to day rates for visual creatives being destroyed. lots of good info here but to everyone else reading this, DO NOT WORK FOR SLAVE WAGES. it's a tremendous amount of work from pre-to post production. so get paid properly. or, if you don't know shit, work for expenses only with you client knowing that you are still learning. once you know what's up, charge people proper.
Nice video! So do you give the couple the raw footage as well? Or only the 20-40’ summary? If you film like 3 hours, all of that will be priceless when watching it during the 25th anniversary. I recently saw a video crew totally miss the moving speeches as they were too pre-occupied with artistic BS. They failed your second tip. Btw how good is the 18-135 for video? I thought the 18-105 was THE video lens for Sony APS-C
Nice video los of information. Could you tell me more about the audio? I saw lots of UA-cam recommended wireless go Is that good for travel but not for paid jobs? Thanks
Great video. Basically i am a photographer. I used to shoot some video in the early 90's. You hit the nail on the head about money wise. Gharge and know your worth. Never sell yourself short.
very good video, I would love to see more of that also on Udemy, keep it up !! Maybe some editing Video Tips for Final Cut Pro and so on - this would be great!
lol Im so glad you made this video i shot my first wedding & edit it my self for the first time i mean talk about being nervous lol but these are some great & i tips & all be adding to my gear
Payment, 50% at front and 50% afterward? That neve worked for me. Usually vendors get paid at front, the DJ, does, the cake and everything else, why shouldn't you?
Wow, just my opinion. You're way low on your charging. A single shooter should at least be getting $100 per hour plus. You ever see a wedding couple cry over pictures? A video represents way so much and brings out the emotion of the couple. And a bonus you can give or sell the Jpg's images from your video too! Oh yes, don't forget the computer and software. The list never ends.
If you're starting out, you can't charge much specially with limited skills, and experience, you charged more when you get your name out there, and your confident enough with your skills, plus he also said charge doubld the minimum wage, soI guess its pretty good.
Just one question Jason, how was your battery experience with the A6400? I'm kinda bit stuck of getting between the A6400 or the A6600. I own a A7iii, but somehow, I need a back up camera. Although I own a GH4, it always fail me because of the different color, even I use a V-Log profile or flat profile both camera. What would you suggest?
I shot a wedding with a6400 with 3 batteries. Batteries died quick but thru out the entire 7 hour day I had to keep charging and switching out each segment. It worked out and didn’t feel under pressure With battery. but more battery would be better. I’d say have about 5 on hand. Also use a power bank. If you got the budget go for 6600 but a 500 dollar difference in price is a major win for a gimbal of 18-105 lens for event.
When recording audio, the zoom h4n, hn1, n other recording options in the similar price range don’t have the option to record at a specific frame rate since it records in real time. Does it matter if we don’t record audio at the same frame rate as video? Are the video clips usually short enough where the video and audio don’t get out of sync? What are the best options to sync audio in post? Should one transcode the wav file in post to the video frame rate prior to importing to ur editing system? Sorry I don’t have much experience shooting weddings or events, but I want to learn. :)
Jonatan Villafana 1 second of audio is 1 second of audio. Should not have a problem becoming out of sync. Problems arise when you start mixing different frame rates like 24, 30, 50 fps and wanting them to play back at normal speed. Footage will look jumpy because of frames dropped/added to confirm to timelines parameters
Jonatan Villafana I did not know if that option. You could be right about timecode. I record using tascams and Zoom recorders. When I import into FCPX I simply highlight the audio track with the corresponding film clip, right click and choose ‘synchronise.’ Usually works fine. If not I sync manually
Thank you very much...great video... i have some questions left..hope you like to reply: 1. how many months before the event do you accept and confirm bookings? I heard from people which accept 1-2 years before.. but how do I know how I will be in one year? what if I am ill? have no time... forget it.. etc.... noone can watch into the future.. 2. how many hours do you need after wedding for checking footage, selecting what you will use and not, editing video and getting an idea how do build up the videostory for an 4-6 minutes video and footage from about 4-6hours? 3. what will you do if you are ill on the "big" day or your cam is not working or your SD Card has an failure / is lost / stolen? do you have a special contract? how do you protect yourself against expensive claims from the customer? 4. do you always accept an order only when they made a deposit? (you never know if they still marry in 1 year e.g.), how much deposit do you ask for? 5. what framerate do you record and what shutter speed and aperture? 6. do you record slow motion in editing software? or directly during event? I think in normal mode recording and later deciding in editing software what I want in slow motion, or? thanks for your support and replies..
You need to learn your craft first before even thinking about shooting someone's wedding. Based on your questions, I wouldn't even hire you to film me while I eat a sandwich.
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Jason Vong That's one of the best videos i've ever seen on youtube
Jason Vong what kind of computer do you use to edit videos?
I hate weddings. I would rather film a divorce.
cool
😳 Wow. Okay. 😂
Thats to funny.
I'm with him lol
Me too
Really helpful as I'm doing my first wedding at the end of November! Much thanks!
$150 bucks !!! You running a charity!? lol
This has been a good video for me, I've been in a bit of a rut trying to find my "passion" and other millennial first world problems ;)
I think getting back to basics and just doing some good work for some clients and then playing around on the side might be a good idea. Thanks!
i literally just shot and currently editing a video about creative rut!! stay tuned! :D
@@JasonVong Hey, that's awesome! Thanks for putting all this cool content out, you seem to have relentless energy!!!
If you did a videographer course on udemy I would totally buy it!
appreciate that! We have thought about it - perhaps in 2020! :D
@@JasonVong now I'm excited!
You’ve been an inspiration! We started our business in filming weddings a couple of years ago and your videos are so helpful!
Jason - this was so valuable and on point thank you
Question. A6300 + ronin SC + sigma 16mm/sony 35mm. Auto or manual focus during weddings?
Awesome video Mr. Vong, very informative and fun to watch. 1a. 4-5 minute definitely, love the basics of the video, but with a 4-5 minute video, you can only put in highlights of the talks, and that's ok. Audio is the glue to everything. You can skip on a stabilizer, but it does bring a ton of production value.
Jason, I'm going to have to put you on blast for this. Never, ever, ever, ever, do wedding videos unless you are saving up for a liver transplant that you need to save your life. It's the worst work in the world. It's a long day. It pays 1/10th of what a corporate gig pays. Brides are super picky. Most of you won't have cameras that can record for more then 30 mins with out over heating, or need a 1 second gap. That 1 second gap will be when they kiss at the ceremony. And if you miss that, you might as well refund the money. That's the money shot. Not to mention to compete with other wedding videographers, a 2-3 min recap won't doo. Brides want a 10-15 min highly edited version, and a long form 1-2 hour version. DO NOT SUCCUMB TO DO WEDDING VIDEOS. And if you do, never tell any one about it. You'll be undesirable to anyone except the local trash new station making $10 a hour. Source: Been there done that. Had to fight my way out of it. Finally did. Made a doc and sold it.
GeorgeGraves how would you recommend getting in with corporate gigs, or getting your foot in the door with that industry?
@@rananapier8424 Do something for a non-profit, and make a demo reel. Do some fake :30 spots. Animated :30's with a VO are good too. Get creative :)
GeorgeGraves thank you for the advice! I’m also curious about watching your documentary, what’s it called?
@@rananapier8424 We sold it to a educational video catalog company that rents it out to universities, and things like that. It's not available online.
Yikes. Sounds like you had really bad experiences. Can you accept that many, many people have awesome experiences earning money and growing their skills at weddings without bridezillas? I didn’t hear room for that in your comment.
I think the biggest problem is people starting video or photography massively underestimate what is involved to produce a quality professional video or photo.
You also need lights if you are filming speeches, otherwise the footage will be junk.
Then there is the computer, editor app and how to use it. It cost a lot of money.
Then there is working the camera, getting well exposed footage is pretty hard. Especially in changing light conditions. Then there is white balance. Shell i continue?
Last two years i was shooting every job on A6500 with Weebil Lab. Whole setup costs me about 800$... And if you are interested about the filmmaking, using your gear and you giving heart to your work, than you can deliver really nice films.
Great video Jason! I'm curious, what client management software and invoicing software do you use/recommend?
I have filmed 2 weddings so far. Definitely undershot both of them. However the second one was DRASTICALLY better than the first. There are a million more things I learned from my second wedding as well.
I would suggest doing as much research and practice before shooting your first wedding as possible, but actually doing it is definitely the best way to learn. DO NOT go in totally unprepared though.
Very true.
Don't forget you will also need woosh transition presets and an M31 LUT as well.
And of course... Need to build their wedding film website via Squarespace 🤝🤙🤣
Great video bro 👌👊
Don't you find that the biggest consumer of man/woman hours is inevitably the edit? This is where most people will come a cropper when pricing an entire event.
Hello Janson, How can I use TASCAM 05 to record from a DJ Console audio for my video?
I didn't know you know Craig Adams!....wow, I am a fan of you two.
Please make a video on How to setup the camera on the Weebill
Great video as usual Jason :) quick question: do you recommend having more than 1 camera for events such as the vidsummit you did in order to get a wide shot and a close-up shot?
Yes! 2 cameras at least!
That wight balance.. just saying.
this is a very nice vid. I'm currently starting with filming events. thumbs up!
You didn't even see it 🙅🏻♂️
@@sumsagro4049 are u sure? how can u tell?
Sweet! What's the event you are filming soon?
@@JasonVong I have a wedding to film next month and found this tips helpful, like shooting the important people over those shots I get later, and maybe will save up to buy better audio equipment for next events.
@@mikolaud3810 Check out Wedding Film School, Matt whoismatt Johnson, White in Revery, and Gear Glasses & Gadgets! (im sure you have already but just in case) Wealth of knowledge from their channels that I personally learned a lot from!
$37 an hour more than minimum wage? are you high bro? you contribute to day rates for visual creatives being destroyed. lots of good info here but to everyone else reading this, DO NOT WORK FOR SLAVE WAGES. it's a tremendous amount of work from pre-to post production. so get paid properly. or, if you don't know shit, work for expenses only with you client knowing that you are still learning. once you know what's up, charge people proper.
Nick Ruechel I’m sure Jason is in total agreement with you. Where are you misunderstanding each other?
Jason is cool. 😎
Helpful. Thanks man!
This is exactly what I was looking for today 😍
really?! what event are you filming soon?
@@JasonVong There's a conference on Friday and I was clueless how to film it. This video was extremely useful 🥰
@@rajajinnah6749 nice! good luck! Show up a little earlier just to prep and get establishing and detail shots!
Nice video!
So do you give the couple the raw footage as well? Or only the 20-40’ summary? If you film like 3 hours, all of that will be priceless when watching it during the 25th anniversary. I recently saw a video crew totally miss the moving speeches as they were too pre-occupied with artistic BS. They failed your second tip.
Btw how good is the 18-135 for video? I thought the 18-105 was THE video lens for Sony APS-C
THANK YOU JASON😔
This is really helps!
Wish I could be at your event in November.
Please make more of this content.
Wish you all the best
Matt Watson switched from the a7lll to the Z6 . Is the Z6 better?
Great, great, great video bro! Very informative! Thanks for sharing this!
Great, informative video. Still a noob for wedding video so this helps out a lot! Thanks
Usually how long the final video will you done? 3 months or 1 month?
I get it done in a couple of weeks for shorter videos. For weddings, we say 2 months
@@JasonVong thanks man, usually final video approx what time? 20-30mins or it depends on client?
Yaaaas, I was hoping for a video like this! I know some people in the industry but have always been to shy to ask them.
I like your suggested video kit. Is it worth to upgrade from A6400 to A6600? Thank you so much for this excellent tutorial.
Okay but which Philz beans are your favorite??
-Julie’s Ultimate is up there for me. 🥳☕️
Nice video los of information. Could you tell me more about the audio? I saw lots of UA-cam recommended wireless go Is that good for travel but not for paid jobs? Thanks
video i was looking for, gonna buy 18-105 f4 for my a6000
Regular people dont care about 4k.
Some dont even know what it looks like
Great video. Basically i am a photographer. I used to shoot some video in the early 90's. You hit the nail on the head about money wise. Gharge and know your worth. Never sell yourself short.
Good to use story blocks for drone footage. Most UA-camrs just shoot drone footage without a FAA license
very good video, I would love to see more of that also on Udemy, keep it up !! Maybe some editing Video Tips for Final Cut Pro and so on - this would be great!
Great info ! Still nervous. I’ll prob reach out to some local wedding photographer and intern/ shadow them . The way you laid it out was super dope !
SCANDAL and ONE OK ROCK! thanks Jason. Two of my favourite bands!
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Excellent
Thanks for making this. I just got booked for a cannabis dinner, so this gives me things to consider. 👍🏻
u didn't talk about flash ...i think its 2nd most important thing for weeding photographers after camera ...
This is more of a video guide but yes for photography, flash is a must!
@@JasonVong ohh thanks .... And nice video 👍👍👍
Hi
Why are most of your events composed of Japanese? And love the scandal and one ok rock there
hey you were going to post sony 35mm 1.8 video right? when 😍
Anyways......
Omg I don’t know a videographer who would show up for $150 lol - i bill on projects and a wedding is $2-3k
U bill on projects eh?
Aaron Walker I do, I wouldn’t get out of bed for a video project for less than $1200 for a half day. Weddings are a full day sometimes 1.5 days
lol Im so glad you made this video i shot my first wedding & edit it my self for the first time i mean talk about being nervous lol but these are some great & i tips & all be adding to my gear
great vid as usual! nice meeting you last weekend at sony creative space!
Great video Jason! Thanks for the words of wisdom.
👍
What editing software to you use?
Minimum wage in Russia is about 200$ in a month )
unexpected one ok rock cameo in a jason video lol
Payment, 50% at front and 50% afterward? That neve worked for me. Usually vendors get paid at front, the DJ, does, the cake and everything else, why shouldn't you?
They "only" work in the timeframe of the event, where as a filmmaker will work after too. I guess its for the clients security
Really nice video and very useful!
Wow, just my opinion. You're way low on your charging. A single shooter should at least be getting $100 per hour plus. You ever see a wedding couple cry over pictures? A video represents way so much and brings out the emotion of the couple. And a bonus you can give or sell the Jpg's images from your video too! Oh yes, don't forget the computer and software. The list never ends.
If you're starting out, you can't charge much specially with limited skills, and experience, you charged more when you get your name out there, and your confident enough with your skills, plus he also said charge doubld the minimum wage, soI guess its pretty good.
Great video, JV!
very helpful 💯👍
Gimbal >tripod
You should have some work footage done in order to start charging.
Great topic!
Just one question Jason, how was your battery experience with the A6400? I'm kinda bit stuck of getting between the A6400 or the A6600.
I own a A7iii, but somehow, I need a back up camera. Although I own a GH4, it always fail me because of the different color, even I use a V-Log profile or flat profile both camera.
What would you suggest?
Before you buy. Look at Blackmagic.
I shot a wedding with a6400 with 3 batteries. Batteries died quick but thru out the entire 7 hour day I had to keep charging and switching out each segment. It worked out and didn’t feel under pressure With battery. but more battery would be better. I’d say have about 5 on hand. Also use a power bank. If you got the budget go for 6600 but a 500 dollar difference in price is a major win for a gimbal of 18-105 lens for event.
I just needed this
When recording audio, the zoom h4n, hn1, n other recording options in the similar price range don’t have the option to record at a specific frame rate since it records in real time. Does it matter if we don’t record audio at the same frame rate as video? Are the video clips usually short enough where the video and audio don’t get out of sync? What are the best options to sync audio in post? Should one transcode the wav file in post to the video frame rate prior to importing to ur editing system? Sorry I don’t have much experience shooting weddings or events, but I want to learn. :)
Jonatan Villafana 1 second of audio is 1 second of audio. Should not have a problem becoming out of sync. Problems arise when you start mixing different frame rates like 24, 30, 50 fps and wanting them to play back at normal speed. Footage will look jumpy because of frames dropped/added to confirm to timelines parameters
Jai Kavi then Why do the Sound Devices and higher end Tascam offer the options of frame rates? Maybe for slate and time code sync?
Jonatan Villafana I did not know if that option. You could be right about timecode. I record using tascams and Zoom recorders. When I import into FCPX I simply highlight the audio track with the corresponding film clip, right click and choose ‘synchronise.’ Usually works fine. If not I sync manually
Thank you very much...great video... i have some questions left..hope you like to reply:
1. how many months before the event do you accept and confirm bookings? I heard from people which accept 1-2 years before.. but how do I know how I will be in one year? what if I am ill? have no time... forget it.. etc.... noone can watch into the future..
2. how many hours do you need after wedding for checking footage, selecting what you will use and not, editing video and getting an idea how do build up the videostory for an 4-6 minutes video and footage from about 4-6hours?
3. what will you do if you are ill on the "big" day or your cam is not working or your SD Card has an failure / is lost / stolen? do you have a special contract? how do you protect yourself against expensive claims from the customer?
4. do you always accept an order only when they made a deposit? (you never know if they still marry in 1 year e.g.), how much deposit do you ask for?
5. what framerate do you record and what shutter speed and aperture?
6. do you record slow motion in editing software? or directly during event? I think in normal mode recording and later deciding in editing software what I want in slow motion, or?
thanks for your support and replies..
You need to learn your craft first before even thinking about shooting someone's wedding. Based on your questions, I wouldn't even hire you to film me while I eat a sandwich.
@@bms5234 shut up if you cannot reply to a question!
🤣 ouch. The truth hurts huh?
@@bms5234 only your stupidness hurts...
Oh nooooo, I hurt your feelings ☹️
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