I took my daughter to her first gig when she was 12.....it was the Who. So three generations of my family have now,seen The Who. My father in the 60's then myself and now my daughter....nearly 50 years after my dad first saw them. I took her to see them again to celebrate 50 years earlier this year.
@@modfather1965 - The narrow neck width on my 360/12v64 suits my smaller hands and shorter fingers much better. Many of the models they've tried to introduce over the years have gone out of production, due to poor sales. Rickenbacker seems responsive to sales feedback.
Back in the days when the tune came out, we learned to play it with bar chords, and sliding up chords for the whole thing. Doing some of it in regular chords down at the end of the neck sounds great, and may well be correct as he played it. Absolutely love your instrument... The chime is incredible.. Nobody does electric 12 like a Ricky, and you are in command with beautiful clarity. I will never tire of this wonderful old classic..
We have one in our shop a customer came in and played one for an hour and God dam I am convinced, what an amazing guitar and massive sound, I wanna use my staff discount and get one....... 8k plus but!!
At the time Pete thought this was the best song he had ever written. It rose to 16 and no higher. The lyrics are great and the band plays to its lofty standards. They are the best band i have seen"3 times.";U2 werea close second
Brilliant guitar but most definately not how pete plays it. Opening e chord just moves the shape up the neck for first verse. Etc etc. You can see him do it on live tv performances at the time.
Pete Townshend plays the verse using the E chord shape and running it up the neck for the E-G-A part and also the G-A-C-D-E. Keep the low E and B and high E strings open. He doesn't play it using the normal G and A chords that you show here. Nice Ric though
Not E minor though. He would hold the standard E major chord, with the 1st finger on the G string relaxed enough to mute it. When you swing your arm (or just strum normally!) you can't hit just the 3 low strings, you hit them all. But Em wouldn't be a disaster.
I read a quote from Pete Townsend stating that he asked Rickenbacker to please widen the finger board on this special issue model. In case anyone was wondering why this special issue model had an F hole in it's semi-acoustic body, instead of Rickenbacker's customary cats-eye slash hole, it's because back in the day when Pete Townsend was playing Rickenbackers with the early Who, Rose-Morris was the British distributor of Rickenbacker. The F hole distinguished those guitars as being distributed by Rose-Morris. So, part of the 1993 Plus model's special issue was to recreate the look of the Rickenbacker guitars played by Pete Townsend, with the early Who.
I just got a new 2021 360/12c63 in Jetglo and I can’t put it down. Almost the last minute I decided I had to at least try the normal vintage sized Rickenbacker neck and see if I’d hate it. Yeah, the nut is narrow but the depth of the neck is nice and chunky. Mercifully Rickenbacker placed the root strings and the octave strings paired very closely so it’s no problem making chords tho I can imagine the 1993plus is a lot simpler to play accurately from the git-go. Thanks for the cool videos and lessons. As much as anyone you’re videos finally prompted me to buy one of these fine instruments.
Congratulations on the new heirloom purchase! I had a C63 for years and loved it. I had it altered by Mark Arnquist (aka "the Rickendoctor") and had the nut redone to where the individuals string pairs were tighter together and spaced better across the fretboard. Really nice. I probably should never have sold that guitar, but the Plus will have to do. Thanks for the kind words. Keep playing that guitar. ;-)
While exploring your other postings, I ran across a highly unreasonable threat viewer's comment. I was sorry to see that you had been subjected to that, and send you supportive thoughts, think what you do with your videos is great, and can't understand that mentioned occurrence.
Very good indeed but one small thing The gain of the amp seems to be varying as the loud parts seem to reduce in volume Like an Amp pumping maybe or recorded with Dolby and played back without can sound like that or is that the sound you wanted but sounds a bit odd to me Also a lot of maims hum
@@modfather1965 True enough, on the south coast of England there's a dude called Barry who was the drummer for the Nashville Teens he also played for Jerry Lee Lewis, his shop is an Aladdin's cave, keep well..
Now, viewers, is that jangle or what? Don't care if we're listening to a compressor and/or treble booster. That's just beautiful sounding! I'm kicking myself for not having sprung for one of these special issue Rickenbacker 12-strings, when they were being advertised, & I had the means!
Quote from Pete Townsend,”Shut up and PLAY your guitar”. Meaning don’t twiddle about minor issues like what were the exact notes Pete played but keep practicing,performing to gain experience
Hope dinner worked out okay that night. Thanks for the awesome demo! Next time, if your shoulders are up to it, show us how to do some Townshend-like windmills! Thanks again for sharing what you know.
I wanted a Rick 12 since 1964 - decades later when I could finally afford one, I test drove it at the shop and discovered the neck was too narrow for my big hands. What a bummer that was. So I ended up with a Gibson. Roger McGuinn must have little girlie hands.....
Actually, he didn't have small hands. He mentions, in his DVD on playing the Rickenbacker 12-string, that he would augment some of his chord shapes to get them to fit on the fretboard. That's the beauty of both the 600 series 12 strings and the 1993 Plus model I'm playing here--wider fretboards. Lovely.
I had one of those in 1968 when I was in the 4th grade. I _hated_ it as a 12 string so I took 6 off and played it that way for awhile. Being a moronic child, I eventually traded it for a Les Paul copy. When I think about that event, I also think about the time machine/baby Hitler/assassination-thing, but with me in the lead role... Gawd, I wish I still had that guitar...
Wow, 4th grade... Well, we've all made errors in buying/selling, and well after the 4th grade! Les Paul were THE THING in the 70's so I suppose it's understandable. Make good by getting another '68 12 one day. ;-)
@@modfather1965 I was just reading your reply when i was thinking about McCartneys missing Hofner Violin bass, Do you reckon it is in someones attic? Will it ever show up? Has Steve out of Wellers group got his all black Ric?
For those who have the standard width 12 string nuts on your Rickenbackers, you can get a wider spaced standard sized nut made by any competent luthier with the string pairs closer together & outside strings closer to the fretboard edge. I don't know why RIC don't use the full width available on the fretboard on their nuts? I made my own wider spaced nut but they are available from Rickysounds www.rickysounds.co.uk/product/rickysounds-wider-spaced-12-string-nut-nylatron/
Thanks for the message. I had "the Rickendoctor," Mark Arnquist of Seattle do mine some 8-9 years ago. This was before Rickysounds or anyone else was offering the service. Made a HUGE difference. Rickenbacker is slow to make any changes to their beloved instruments. This would be an admission of the need to improve, I guess. What this attitude does is keep classics intact, but it also keeps them stuck in the past in some unhelpful ways.
Love your videos! I'm looking at these 1993 ric's I've had the standard 360 and found it impossible to play with that narrow neck. Is this 1993 plus a lot easier to play?
An diesem Video stimmt etwas nicht. Bei den angezeigten Griffen ergibt sich nicht der zu hörende Ton auf ebenfalls einer Rickenbacker Gitarre. Außerdem sind die einzelnen gedrückten Seiten sowie die Bünde durch die Handstellung nicht sichtbar. Andere Musiker zeigen die jeweils gedrückte Seite einzeln an oder stellen eine Grafik in das Video ein.
Love the 12. Doing The Who Sell Out in Houston on June 1. Did Townshend use a 12 on I Cant See for Miles? I hear an acoustic, regular 12, and distort 12
Hey great lesson bro. I have a question for you. The F hole on this guitar...is it painted or bound on the cutout part. I was thinking of getting one of these because of the wider neck like on my 660/12 but some pics online the F hole looks kinda sloppily painted. Any insight into this?
+jx14aby Thanks for the support. If "if only" makes reference to the guitar, it's well worth it to save up for a time to get one. You'll keep it forever and be proud to have it handed down one day.
Two amps (Vox AC30 & Roland Jazz Chorus) at the same time really helps. Along with compression, I've got some level/gain going, mild distortion and chorus, and also some reverb. Add it all up and you get this sound.🧡
@@modfather1965 Thanks, man, really appreciate your getting back to me! I also have an old AC30TB. I have tended to shy away from using compression (e.g. the Jangle Box) because it is very noisy, especially through an old Vox, but I've got some noise filters now so will try again. Those Roland Choruses are great for Rics- McGuinn used to use them back in the '90's, pretty sure. Thanks again. Your tone is spectacular.
@Hiwatt100W1 p.s. I recorded this in the basement of grandma's house that we bought some years back. That was the best space to play guitar in that i've ever experienced. We haven't lived there in the last seven years, and i'm afraid my tone is no longer so good in my current music room...
Did you have to file the nut to set the action and then file the top of the nut to make the grooves shallower so the strings dont bind.?? Had to do a major setup on mine. .
Thanks dude! And... what a sound! Are you using a ton of compression or is it the mic on the camera limiting? Had a couple of original Fender XIIs quite a while ago... if you could cross the playability of the Fender XII with the sound of the Ricky it would be perfect (for me!).
I've got a fair amount of compression going on here, along with some other effects from my Boss ME-50 multi effects pedal running too (e.g., some mild chorus (just to enhance the two amp effect), some reverb, and maybe a bit of gain/level).
Very good indeed what a nice sounding guitar but one small thing The gain of the amp seems to be varying a lot as the loud parts seem to reduce in volume Like an Amp pumping from over compression 20dB plus maybe or recorded with Dolby and played back without can sound like that or is that the sound you wanted but sounds a bit odd to me I can hear the system breathing badly Also a lot of maims hum could be due to over compression again
I'm using a Vox AC30 and a Roland JC 50 (2 at once;-)). Running it through a Boss ME 50 multi effects with compression, distortion, reverb, and a tad of chorus. Whatever it takes to get close...
Not a Janglebox, but my Boss Me-50's compressor. I had a Janglebox once, but I sold it once I realized that my Boss compressor was just as good via a side-by-side test I did (through my Vox AC30).
Arrrggghhh Hey there MoodFeather 1965Pronounced phonically Rick-in-BACK-er not Rick-in Boak-er Please? Also Thanks for the lesson you and it are appreciated..
Why not play E like you play A? Index finger barring 2 strings. I hope those who want to learn this song will listen to the recording and figure it out by listening, because this is just your interpretation of the guitar parts.
modfather1965: can you tell me what amp you use with this rickenbacker for this song? It would help me a lot if you can answer this, thanks in advance.
Sure, man. I'm actually playing through two here: an AC30, and a Roland Jazz Chorus 50. I'm also using a Boss ME-50 Multi-effects pedal with compression (very important), mild distortion, some reverb, and a tad of chorus to get the sound to subtly shift from one amp to the other.
You need the compression to get the authentic sound. For me it is adjusted a bit on the bright end--maybe could shift the blend knob a bit away from the bight/crispy side. This is more of a Byrds tonality here. For me, it's the Reverb that is creating a loss of clarity and making my head hurt! But, having played a Ric 360 V 64 12 string for many years, I will say that this fellow does capture how thunderous these guitars can be in the rhythm role. You just need to add some compression, let the Vox bring the drive, and let the guitar do its own thing. It will open a huge space in the sound without adding more than the most minimal reverb. Remember, Pete don't surf!
do u think George H would approve? I suspect it sounds like 360/12-c6# he hadbut haven't seen u do a George vid on the 1993 one yetI have a blond 360/12 NS but this would solve 2 problems I have -gotta have horns and color
I could see the picky thing happening in this environment , but your playing (and gear) are Above the "norm" IMOpeople can be mean/rude if something is not to their liking. but I think u get more positive than negative. If Bill Gates, Edison etc., succumbed to peer pressure.....the world would be a different placeA bit of a stretch but....Carry on-and damn the torpedoes.
Nico Karsen I agree, the talk/play balance is off. He never really plays the song through. Also, the Taj Mahal section is not really a bridge, as it is not a new structure or melody that contrasts the verse and chorus. It is a modulation up a whole tone (as I recall) that functions to bring some freshness to the song, much as a bridge could do. I think some other elements in the arrangement change a bit too. Another way to approach it is to wonder if the song really needed the extra section, or could it have been shortened? Is it getting a bit tedious by then? (I know that is blasphemy). But I think that Townsend was really growing as a writer and moving from pop song forms towards expanding the possibilities of what a rock song could be and do. This song is on Who Sell Out, is it not? Or it just pre-dates that album, which is his first run at an extended narrative, i. e., the radio show format. So he is on his way to Tommy, and this song is Pete beginning to feel his way out of the 2:20 single trap. Of course, it's utterly exciting and inspiring. I appreciate our host capturing that spirit!
I took my daughter to her first gig when she was 12.....it was the Who. So three generations of my family have now,seen The Who. My father in the 60's then myself and now my daughter....nearly 50 years after my dad first saw them. I took her to see them again to celebrate 50 years earlier this year.
+Theytoldmetodoit1 How cool would that be? Never seen them live. Had the chance back in the late 70's/early 80's but missed it. Lucky you.
Nice... Would love to see Townshend before he dies.
@@modfather1965 They are still good. I saw them at Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne 2008 and they were really great
What was her reaction?
@@danielcox-gonzalez7430 She loved it.
What a Ricky.....that beauty will be ringing til next xmas .your playing is impeccable !!
+sickofakes Thanks for the compliments on the guitar. Having a good compression unit helps the sustain substantially...
+modfather1965 May I ask which compressor? I have a Keeley.
The compressor that comes on my Boss ME-50 Multi-effects pedal...
@@modfather1965 - The narrow neck width on my 360/12v64 suits my smaller hands and shorter fingers much better. Many of the models they've tried to introduce over the years have gone out of production, due to poor sales. Rickenbacker seems responsive to sales feedback.
@@xmillion1704 Fair enough... My bad.
Back in the days when the tune came out, we learned to play it with bar chords, and sliding up chords for the whole thing. Doing some of it in regular chords down at the end of the neck sounds great, and may well be correct as he played it. Absolutely love your instrument... The chime is incredible.. Nobody does electric 12 like a Ricky, and you are in command with beautiful clarity. I will never tire of this wonderful old classic..
What a lovely comment... Thanks for stopping by.
If life weren't so short, I'd watch this again and count how many times he said "Right?"
...It's a lot. Sorry. Unconscious tick.
You can NEVER have too much Who.
We have one in our shop a customer came in and played one for an hour and God dam I am convinced, what an amazing guitar and massive sound, I wanna use my staff discount and get one....... 8k plus but!!
At the time Pete thought this was the best song he had ever written. It rose to 16 and no higher. The lyrics are great and the band plays to its lofty standards. They are the best band i have seen"3 times.";U2 werea close second
Brilliant guitar but most definately not how pete plays it. Opening e chord just moves the shape up the neck for first verse. Etc etc. You can see him do it on live tv performances at the time.
Pete Townshend plays the verse using the E chord shape and running it up the neck for the E-G-A part and also the G-A-C-D-E. Keep the low E and B and high E strings open. He doesn't play it using the normal G and A chords that you show here. Nice Ric though
Thanks for the input. When I move up the neck, I don't do the E shape, but a slight variant. I like the way the E shape sounds... ;-)
My previous comment wasn't a criticism by the way,great sound from that Ricky,and a good tutorial, thanks for taking the trouble for putting this up.
Thanks for the support... ;-)
Excellent! I just sold my 30 year old, narrow necked 360/12 for a brand new 1993 Plus. It makes perfect sense. Infinitely more playable. 👍
Indeed... Welcome to the club, and congratulations. ;-)
RM1993 360/12 like Pete had here ...great video thanks
Now I want a Ricky 12 string. When does this madness stop! Nice tutorial btw.
Thanks for the encouragement. Yes, a Ricky 12 is a wonderful thing to have.
Not E minor though. He would hold the standard E major chord, with the 1st finger on the G string relaxed enough to mute it. When you swing your arm (or just strum normally!) you can't hit just the 3 low strings, you hit them all. But Em wouldn't be a disaster.
I read a quote from Pete Townsend stating that he asked Rickenbacker to please widen the finger board on this special issue model.
In case anyone was wondering why this special issue model had an F hole in it's semi-acoustic body, instead of Rickenbacker's customary cats-eye slash hole, it's because back in the day when Pete Townsend was playing Rickenbackers with the early Who, Rose-Morris was the British distributor of Rickenbacker. The F hole distinguished those guitars as being distributed by Rose-Morris.
So, part of the 1993 Plus model's special issue was to recreate the look of the Rickenbacker guitars played by Pete Townsend, with the early Who.
Very well done! Thanks....beauty of a guitar as well
You're kind... Thanks for the support!
I just got a new 2021 360/12c63 in Jetglo and I can’t put it down. Almost the last minute I decided I had to at least try the normal vintage sized Rickenbacker neck and see if I’d hate it. Yeah, the nut is narrow but the depth of the neck is nice and chunky. Mercifully Rickenbacker placed the root strings and the octave strings paired very closely so it’s no problem making chords tho I can imagine the 1993plus is a lot simpler to play accurately from the git-go.
Thanks for the cool videos and lessons. As much as anyone you’re videos finally prompted me to buy one of these fine instruments.
Congratulations on the new heirloom purchase! I had a C63 for years and loved it. I had it altered by Mark Arnquist (aka "the Rickendoctor") and had the nut redone to where the individuals string pairs were tighter together and spaced better across the fretboard. Really nice. I probably should never have sold that guitar, but the Plus will have to do. Thanks for the kind words. Keep playing that guitar. ;-)
While exploring your other postings, I ran across a highly unreasonable threat viewer's comment. I was sorry to see that you had been subjected to that, and send you supportive thoughts, think what you do with your videos is great, and can't understand that mentioned occurrence.
Changes at Rickenbacker require all their machines to be recalibrated • that takes a lot of time and effort.
Was that your Mum calling you for dinner ? I love it 😅!!!!
I like the wide neck. Reminds me like a Gibson.
Wow nice RICKY. and a must with a wider frettboard.
Yes... It's better. ;-)
Looks like 1993 plus..Awesome playing guitar.My 325c58 is cool also. dig your videos
You have such to the point and you find the elements and importantly the guitar tone.
I appreciate your comments. ;-)
@@modfather1965 👍👍👍
The addition of a wider neck was at the recommendation of Pete Townshend
Nice sounding guitar. You should do another video on how Roger plays it live with his acoustic guitar.
Sublime
Great sounding Ricky.
Thanks... ;-)
That guitar is perfect!!
Thanks... She's even "perfecter" now, with gold plastic and stove-top knobs.
www.modfather1965guitarshop.com/2015-rickenbacker-model-1993-plus.html
Very good indeed but one small thing The gain of the amp seems to be varying as the loud parts seem to reduce in volume Like an Amp pumping maybe or recorded with Dolby and played back without can sound like that or is that the sound you wanted but sounds a bit odd to me Also a lot of maims hum
i have a 2015 1993 plus. wonderful guitar!!!!
Congrats! Fireglo?
fantastic lesson Thanks
Thanks for your support.
Nice sound really crisp spot on
Thanks. The gear helps... ;-)
@@modfather1965 True enough, on the south coast of England there's a dude called Barry who was the drummer for the Nashville Teens he also played for Jerry Lee Lewis, his shop is an Aladdin's cave, keep well..
That tone is pretty awesome.
Glad you approve...;-)
Now, viewers, is that jangle or what? Don't care if we're listening to a compressor and/or treble booster. That's just beautiful sounding! I'm kicking myself for not having sprung for one of these special issue Rickenbacker 12-strings, when they were being advertised, & I had the means!
Quote from Pete Townsend,”Shut up and PLAY your guitar”. Meaning don’t twiddle about minor issues like what were the exact notes Pete played but keep practicing,performing to gain experience
Indeed... Thanks for the reminder.
Hope dinner worked out okay that night. Thanks for the awesome demo! Next time, if your shoulders are up to it, show us how to do some Townshend-like windmills! Thanks again for sharing what you know.
Ha ha ha... I'd be afraid of cutting my fingers off.;-)
I wanted a Rick 12 since 1964 - decades later when I could finally afford one, I test drove it at the shop and discovered the neck was too narrow for my big hands. What a bummer that was. So I ended up with a Gibson. Roger McGuinn must have little girlie hands.....
Actually, he didn't have small hands. He mentions, in his DVD on playing the Rickenbacker 12-string, that he would augment some of his chord shapes to get them to fit on the fretboard. That's the beauty of both the 600 series 12 strings and the 1993 Plus model I'm playing here--wider fretboards. Lovely.
I had one of those in 1968 when I was in the 4th grade. I _hated_ it as a 12 string so I took 6 off and played it that way for awhile. Being a moronic child, I eventually traded it for a Les Paul copy. When I think about that event, I also think about the time machine/baby Hitler/assassination-thing, but with me in the lead role... Gawd, I wish I still had that guitar...
Wow, 4th grade... Well, we've all made errors in buying/selling, and well after the 4th grade! Les Paul were THE THING in the 70's so I suppose it's understandable. Make good by getting another '68 12 one day. ;-)
I can empathise with you as I sold my Hofner violin bass,Selmer "Bass n Treble amp head,speaker and Les Paul copy!!
@@johnbarry1965 Yes... Seemed like the thing to do at the time, but in retrospect...
@@modfather1965 I was just reading your reply when i was thinking about McCartneys missing Hofner Violin bass, Do you reckon it is in someones attic? Will it ever show up? Has Steve out of Wellers group got his all black Ric?
@@johnbarry1965 IDK about McCartney's bass, of course, but yes... Craddock has Weller's All Black.
Top notch lesson man!
Glad you liked it...;-)
love that guitar
It's a good one... Thanks for stopping by.
Dude we don’t need the Rickenbacker history lesson,people came here to see a tutorial on the song.
Sorry... Enthusiasm, I guess. ;-)
I heard Townshend himself insisted on the wider neck.
That's I what I hear...
Great demo...Thank you .
Cheers. Thanks for stopping by.
Remarkable tone
That's a lovely compliment. Thanks.
I lovw the who
+Minecraftian Me too. Thanks for dropping by.
Your guitar is sweet. Sooo sweet!
+Trent Mason It's a good one... Thanks for the comments.
For those who have the standard width 12 string nuts on your Rickenbackers, you can get a wider spaced standard sized nut made by any competent luthier with the string pairs closer together & outside strings closer to the fretboard edge.
I don't know why RIC don't use the full width available on the fretboard on their nuts?
I made my own wider spaced nut but they are available from Rickysounds www.rickysounds.co.uk/product/rickysounds-wider-spaced-12-string-nut-nylatron/
Thanks for the message. I had "the Rickendoctor," Mark Arnquist of Seattle do mine some 8-9 years ago. This was before Rickysounds or anyone else was offering the service. Made a HUGE difference. Rickenbacker is slow to make any changes to their beloved instruments. This would be an admission of the need to improve, I guess. What this attitude does is keep classics intact, but it also keeps them stuck in the past in some unhelpful ways.
@@modfather1965 The 1993 Plus model still needs a new replacement nut? Dr Quist gave me the info a while back.
@@carausiusmenapia3219 He would probably recommend it, just because he can enhance that nut too... Love the guy. ;-)
Some of us do prefer a narrower neck.
Love your videos! I'm looking at these 1993 ric's I've had the standard 360 and found it impossible to play with that narrow neck. Is this 1993 plus a lot easier to play?
An diesem Video stimmt etwas nicht. Bei den angezeigten Griffen ergibt sich nicht der zu hörende Ton auf ebenfalls einer Rickenbacker
Gitarre. Außerdem sind die einzelnen gedrückten Seiten sowie die Bünde durch die Handstellung nicht sichtbar. Andere Musiker
zeigen die jeweils gedrückte Seite einzeln an oder stellen eine Grafik in das Video ein.
Tut mir leid, Mann. Ich habe versucht, alles, was ich hier mache, zu zeigen und zu erklären. ;-)
Love the 12. Doing The Who Sell Out in Houston on June 1. Did Townshend use a 12 on I Cant See for Miles? I hear an acoustic, regular 12, and distort 12
That's a good question... I'm sure there's info on that somewhere on line. Lucky you with that concert...;-)
Hey great lesson bro. I have a question for you. The F hole on this guitar...is it painted or bound on the cutout part. I was thinking of getting one of these because of the wider neck like on my 660/12 but some pics online the F hole looks kinda sloppily painted. Any insight into this?
Its bounded
Great Bro!!
What Pedal and amp did you use!
Amps: AC30/Roland JC50; Pedal: Boss ME-50 multi-effects with compression, gain, and reverb.
Everybody moaned about the neck width....
Great lesson. If only. . . . .
+jx14aby Thanks for the support. If "if only" makes reference to the guitar, it's well worth it to save up for a time to get one. You'll keep it forever and be proud to have it handed down one day.
THAT TONE!
Riickenbacker + Vox AC30 + compression/reverb/delay=fab tone
Like broken glass.......in a good way. 😊
How did you get that amazing tone? Beautiful sustain and compression...I have a '67 360/12, it doesn't sound like that!
Two amps (Vox AC30 & Roland Jazz Chorus) at the same time really helps. Along with compression, I've got some level/gain going, mild distortion and chorus, and also some reverb. Add it all up and you get this sound.🧡
@@modfather1965 Thanks, man, really appreciate your getting back to me! I also have an old AC30TB. I have tended to shy away from using compression (e.g. the Jangle Box) because it is very noisy, especially through an old Vox, but I've got some noise filters now so will try again. Those Roland Choruses are great for Rics- McGuinn used to use them back in the '90's, pretty sure. Thanks again. Your tone is spectacular.
@Hiwatt100W1 p.s. I recorded this in the basement of grandma's house that we bought some years back. That was the best space to play guitar in that i've ever experienced. We haven't lived there in the last seven years, and i'm afraid my tone is no longer so good in my current music room...
Did you have to file the nut to set the action and then file the top of the nut to make the grooves shallower so the strings dont bind.?? Had to do a major setup on mine.
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What amp and pedals are you using?
Your tone is *gorgeous.* How important is a 1993 for that (semi-hollow + toasters) vs. effects (compression and reverb) ?
Good guess... A bit of chorus too, and played through two amps which fills the room with sound.
It's ok but honestly that sound is not from the guitar itself. Turn off the Jangle Box please so we can hear the real sound of this guitar! Thanks
i didn't use a Janglebox here; indeed, I don't own one anymore... I use a Boss Me-50 multi-effects pedal. Lots of effects going here, yes.
The JangleBox is as much an instrument that needs to be learned as the guitar. Few have bothered.
you should have played it at the end - all the way thru....
I prefer the open E shape going up the neck.
I'll have to give that a go...
Thanks dude! And... what a sound! Are you using a ton of compression or is it the mic on the camera limiting? Had a couple of original Fender XIIs quite a while ago... if you could cross the playability of the Fender XII with the sound of the Ricky it would be perfect (for me!).
I've got a fair amount of compression going on here, along with some other effects from my Boss ME-50 multi effects pedal running too (e.g., some mild chorus (just to enhance the two amp effect), some reverb, and maybe a bit of gain/level).
Yep i had a Ricky 12 and it sounded flat/dull without some compression. It enchances them.
Definitely...
Very good indeed what a nice sounding guitar but one small thing The gain of the amp seems to be varying a lot as the loud parts seem to reduce in volume Like an Amp pumping from over compression 20dB plus maybe or recorded with Dolby and played back without can sound like that or is that the sound you wanted but sounds a bit odd to me I can hear the system breathing badly Also a lot of maims hum could be due to over compression again
YES! A wide necked rickenbacker 12 string with an F hole :3
+MichaelCasanovaMusic I agree... It only took them 50 years to bring out the 1993 again, and to put the wider neck on it. A definite no-brainer IMO.
+modfather1965 just saw the price. The excitement was nice while it lasted -_-
Congrats on getting one :)
+MichaelCasanovaMusic I had to sell my lovely 2009 360/12 C63 to afford it...
That sound is glorious!!! What amp and effects are you using?
I'm using a Vox AC30 and a Roland JC 50 (2 at once;-)). Running it through a Boss ME 50 multi effects with compression, distortion, reverb, and a tad of chorus. Whatever it takes to get close...
@@modfather1965 With the rick-o-sound?
@@a.battaglia4024 No... Two amps out of my Boss ME-50 multi-effects pedal, which has two outputs.
@@modfather1965 I think you have to much compression as the system is Pumping with huge gain variations could even be oddly limiting in the loud parts
Your clipping the mic 😆
Probably... Trebly, ay? I have really cheap recording gear. ;-)
Sounds like it's going through a Janglebox
Not a Janglebox, but my Boss Me-50's compressor. I had a Janglebox once, but I sold it once I realized that my Boss compressor was just as good via a side-by-side test I did (through my Vox AC30).
@@modfather1965 Wow, sounds cool.
Arrrggghhh Hey there MoodFeather 1965Pronounced phonically Rick-in-BACK-er not
Rick-in Boak-er Please?
Also Thanks for the lesson you and it are appreciated..
I have since made the correction to my pronunciation, at least the last several years now. Thanks for weighing in nonetheless. 👍😎
@@modfather1965 HaHaHa That's funny and cool.. Thanks for the reply; most don't Peace Out.
yep fireglo
"Someone at corporate"? There is no "corporate" at Rickenbacker.
J. H. is the corporation. He's the decision guy. That's who I meant. ;-)
Actually it is corporate. The company name is RIC. Rickenbacker International Corporation
@Jeffcatbuckeye Your comment is a non sequitur given the context in which the word was used.
you should do a video on I cant explain
+Minecraftian Believe it or not, the solo on that one's killer, and I suck at leads...
He has tons of compression on that baby!
Indeed...
What amp are you using?
Here, I'm using a Vox ac30 and a Roland Jazz Chorus 50 together at once.
The neck thing.. everybody knows that it’s a pain... finally... F holes and not a slash.. that’s different
Both are great, but I love the F-Hole on the Rose Morris models only.
Why not play E like you play A? Index finger barring 2 strings.
I hope those who want to learn this song will listen to the recording and figure it out by listening, because this is just your interpretation of the guitar parts.
Indeed, it is, and that's all it ever is or will be. See what suits your own ear and playing skills.
modfather1965: can you tell me what amp you use with this rickenbacker for this song? It would help me a lot if you can answer this, thanks in advance.
Sure, man. I'm actually playing through two here: an AC30, and a Roland Jazz Chorus 50. I'm also using a Boss ME-50 Multi-effects pedal with compression (very important), mild distortion, some reverb, and a tad of chorus to get the sound to subtly shift from one amp to the other.
The wrong one evidently!
Too much compression.
and much too clean . ..and originaly played on 6 string.
You need the compression to get the authentic sound. For me it is adjusted a bit on the bright end--maybe could shift the blend knob a bit away from the bight/crispy side. This is more of a Byrds tonality here. For me, it's the Reverb that is creating a loss of clarity and making my head hurt! But, having played a Ric 360 V 64 12 string for many years, I will say that this fellow does capture how thunderous these guitars can be in the rhythm role. You just need to add some compression, let the Vox bring the drive, and let the guitar do its own thing. It will open a huge space in the sound without adding more than the most minimal reverb. Remember, Pete don't surf!
do u think George H would approve? I suspect it sounds like 360/12-c6# he hadbut haven't seen u do a George vid on the 1993 one yetI have a blond 360/12 NS but this would solve 2 problems I have -gotta have horns and color
He was a very nice guy, so yeah, probably... I'm shy to do any more Beatles, people are so damned picky about your performance...
I could see the picky thing happening in this environment , but your playing (and gear) are Above the "norm" IMOpeople can be mean/rude if something is not to their liking. but I think u get more positive than negative. If Bill Gates, Edison etc., succumbed to peer pressure.....the world would be a different placeA bit of a stretch but....Carry on-and damn the torpedoes.
Thanks for the encouragement...;-)
IT REALLY IS A RICKENBACKER AND NOT A BOCKER.
True dat... I have to work on that, as Baaaaaacker just sounds weird to me.
Great lesson on a great guitar ,didn't even know they exsisted .Would you state where you purchased it from.
+Tom Luther Hi. Thanks for the support. I got mine at Wildwood Guitars in Colorado. You can probably get one of Ebay now for $2600-$2800...
Gives me a bad case of G.A.S.. Sweet.
What's G.A.S.?
"Guitar Acquisition Syndrome"
Ah yes... I've heard of that before (in other people , of course).
Rickenbacker not rickenbocker
Indeed, pronunciation matters. I've since added the Massachusetts "aaaah" to my repertoire.
Can u do substitute please
+isaac buick That's a good one. I can show how to play the intro now... I'll have to learn the rest though.
+isaac buick I just looked and there's already a bunch of lessons on Substitute...
ok thanks man are there any smiths songs u know but havent uploaded Im just obbssesed with Johnny Marr
Or baba orilley
Over gangled ...
Ah well... ;-)
Step down from the soapbox and get to the lesson.
Sorry, man. I'm overly verbal, I know.
American mod? Pffft
+Roy Cropper Yeah, I know...
Know nothing revival twat....Pffft !!!
Way too much hum on this chickenbacker. Not a guitar of high quality. Might be modified, to be as good as an american Rick.
You mean this guitar? Hum perhaps, but no chickenbacker.
lol what?
To much bla,bla,bla.....
Yep... Skip to the parts that matter. ;-)
stop talking
Nico Karsen I agree, the talk/play balance is off. He never really plays the song through. Also, the Taj Mahal section is not really a bridge, as it is not a new structure or melody that contrasts the verse and chorus. It is a modulation up a whole tone (as I recall) that functions to bring some freshness to the song, much as a bridge could do. I think some other elements in the arrangement change a bit too. Another way to approach it is to wonder if the song really needed the extra section, or could it have been shortened? Is it getting a bit tedious by then? (I know that is blasphemy). But I think that Townsend was really growing as a writer and moving from pop song forms towards expanding the possibilities of what a rock song could be and do. This song is on Who Sell Out, is it not? Or it just pre-dates that album, which is his first run at an extended narrative, i. e., the radio show format. So he is on his way to Tommy, and this song is Pete beginning to feel his way out of the 2:20 single trap. Of course, it's utterly exciting and inspiring. I appreciate our host capturing that spirit!
I got bored of your rant about Rickenbacker! Not very cool.
Sorry, man. Love the product, don't like the corporation so much. Really lousy customer care.
You wouldn’t get bored hearing it if you owned one lol. We all relate.
Changes at Rickenbacker require all their machines to be recalibrated • that takes a lot of time and effort.
I'm sure you're right about that. Where there's a will there's usually a way. ;-)