O think there is also a great video by "daigo?" Where he makes tips like have reliable combos in execution, a combo or plan for every situation, know what can and not be punished, don't press buttons on defense. This video looks like a part 2 of his video
Simple as fudge, which is what we need. I usually summary wakeup scenario in 3 categories, either you: Play Safe - Block or DelayTech Yolo - Press a button or EX Reversal Run! - Backdash, Neutral or Back Jump
This video was very very helpful! Thank you! I would love to see this explanation further expanded into how this dynamic changes when you're in a corner and can't backstep.
I'd love to make more tutorials but they take up more time and they aren't even that popular so it's hard to financially justify making them. I set a couple of goals on patreon (www.patreon.com/mdz_jimmy) for this type of content so I can just make content without having to think about taking a financial hit. The next tutorial will definitely be a full explanation for every normal move of ryu.
I beat a Cammy who was up one round and I made a come back while watching this video this was bronze rank. I'm still quite new to this game but jimmy you got my sub cause you helped me win.
@@mdz_jimmyactually light normal attack can stop not meaty but i used like shimmy, there is a ssf4 video about her dash avoiding wake up attacks by "Jay Rego", on sfv is possible too
@@phantomgamer4463 I'm really not sure what you're trying to say. ibukis command dash has no invincibility at all, it's less safe than jumping on wakeup, it can be hit by grabs and normal attacks.
Thank you ! Is the neutral jump (offense) equivalent to shimmy ? Beating late throw tech, but vulnerable to invisible reversals ? Maybe more vulnerable to DP, so higher risk, but higher reward with a full jump in combo ?
Miss these tutorial vids from you, Jimmy. Would love to see a breakdown on how you approach fireball timings and fb risk/reward based on spacing, meter, and opponent observations! I'm pretty scrub tier, but I feel like my fireballs get blown up way more in sfv than they did in sf4.
Fireballs are difficult to use in SFV because there are a lot more anti fireball tools in SFV compared to SFIV. Tutorials will become more frequent again once I hire an editor for the channel. At the moment it's kinda tough editing a new video everyday the way I do, especially now that I'm a dad I simply don't have a lot of time.
command grab characters are indeed tricky to deal with and they do change the wakeup game a lot. it's all about trying to find a pattern and showing your opponent that you're willing to just block and not freak out on wakeup. on high level, players with command grabs win without using command grabs a lot, it's the fear of the command grab and the resulting panic reactions that lead to big damage for them. I should do a tutorial on that topic.
I always watch your videos thank you very much! What other options do I have if I use or fight against a grappler? I am a silver ranking player from Argentina. Sorry for my english.
I thought Ryu Parry is simple enough to execute. But I tried it in training vs Ken EX shoruyken. Wow!!! The first part parry3x is easy.. the second part parry4x is like spam it!!. And still got it wrong 8/10 times.. the pros are damn good at this!!
it's the same concept as regular late crouch tech. set your training dummy to wakeup with ex shoryuken and do a second recording with wakeup throw and then all you gotta do is knock the training dummy down and try to find the timing to block the EX shoryuken AND tech the throw with the same input.
Can you defensively shimmy? I mean, when you backdash on wakeup, and if offensive player does a throw, can that backdash be used as a shimmy, or would that be too slow? Also, do wakeup DPs beat meaty normals? Do wakeup DPs hit shimmys?
I will be doing an updated combo guide for Ryu within the next couple of weeks. In case you haven't watched it yet here's the old one that I did which is still mostly accurate and should be useful for beginners: ua-cam.com/video/3GIHWwwbBMQ/v-deo.html
the dynamic is somewhat different because command grab characters never have a problem of opening up someone. the idea is to mix up the timing on when to defend against command grabs and to make sure you don't panic. this is particularly true on high level where players mostly win without ever using command grab but using the fear of it to land regular attacks on wakeup. I'll cover this in a future tutorial for sure.
similar but has a higher risk of being punished on high level. on the other hand it does punish some shimmy attempts very nicely so it's not easy to say which option is better. I initially wanted to put neutral jump as the option to showcase but ultimately decided to put backdash in it as it is safer and is actually intended to be used like that.
when you fall to the ground you need to press either 2 punch buttons or press down. If you want to use back roll option you press 2 kick buttons or press back.
I do have a dojo yes, I just don't use that functionality right now :D the dojo name is MDZ_jimmY_Dojo so feel free to join. just don't expect anything right now ;)
That statement of react-able grabs being bad is a totally incorrect statement. Try playing a game with a react-able throw; I guarantee you are still not going to tech them most of the time. Skullgirls has it like that with throw conversions, even, and people get chucked ten ways from Sunday. Anyways, excellent video, and this was extraordinarily helpful.
I don't play Skullgirls so please correct me if I'm wrong here but a quick google search tells me Skullgirls has a 13F tech window on throws and that is 100% outside of human reaction speed. Top players in SFV need around 16-17 frames to react to an expected clear visual cue.
I left out a lot of possibilities on purpose to make it easier to understand some basics for the wakeup situation. I will go into more details and other options in a follow up video at some point.
MK11 is not gonna kill off SFV lol DBFZ couldn't achieve that and I highly doubt MK11 will have the same commercial success as DBFZ. just like any other MK, MK11 is gonna be very popular at the beginning and after a few weeks nobody will care about it anymore. I'm not saying this as MK hater or anything, it's just an observable thing throughout the years.
![Tutorial: Defense Against Tick Throws [Advanced Late Teching]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-8nPJvup9Iw/mqdefault.jpg)
Thanks, dude, it's really hard to find proper guides on tactics like these!
O think there is also a great video by "daigo?" Where he makes tips like have reliable combos in execution, a combo or plan for every situation, know what can and not be punished, don't press buttons on defense. This video looks like a part 2 of his video
This video really clarified and put into context a lot of things I’ve been trying to figure out, thank you.
Simple as fudge, which is what we need. I usually summary wakeup scenario in 3 categories, either you:
Play Safe - Block or DelayTech
Yolo - Press a button or EX Reversal
Run! - Backdash, Neutral or Back Jump
This video was very very helpful! Thank you! I would love to see this explanation further expanded into how this dynamic changes when you're in a corner and can't backstep.
Thanks for simplifying this. I truly had to keep watching explanations about wake up. The way you explained is easy enough to understand
Good stuff. It would be dope if you make more content like this.
you'll always see a tutorial from time to time, it just takes significantly longer to produce compared to my other content.
The reason why I subscribed to this channel, not just to learn about ryu play styles but also advanced and tournament level strategies
I bought the game last night and im to used to tekken 7 and mk11 where you have a safe way to stand, this is so needed for me, thanks
This video makes me appreciate SFVs gameplay a little more.
Nice video, something very important but so well explained. I will prefer to eat a throw than eat a full combo after a shimmy or a meatie hit.
Excellent video. This is going to help me improve my wakeup defense immensely. Keep up the great content!!
Just started playing this game and your tutorials are the best I’ve found
Okay I'm giving out props to people that actually play Street Fighter 5 and showing the technical side of things excellent tutorial bro 👏👏👏👏💯
Thanks again Jimmy you have helped me understand certain situations better thanks to this I can be a little better
I love how they jump over you when you wake up so it overrides your turn around and you miss all your attacks
Thanks man, with this video I'm understanding the game better, specifically In this part
Great video Jimmy. As I'm just starting SF 5 it's supper helpful. Thank you very much.
Thanks a lot. When are you going to make the shimmy tutorial or the advanced stuff.
I'd love to make more tutorials but they take up more time and they aren't even that popular so it's hard to financially justify making them. I set a couple of goals on patreon (www.patreon.com/mdz_jimmy) for this type of content so I can just make content without having to think about taking a financial hit. The next tutorial will definitely be a full explanation for every normal move of ryu.
I beat a Cammy who was up one round and I made a come back while watching this video this was bronze rank. I'm still quite new to this game but jimmy you got my sub cause you helped me win.
Very nice! 👌
Thanks, did not know what meaty meant, feel I am only hearing it more and more lately.
But how do you develop muscle memory for meaty timing when the online makes it a variable?
Clear and simple, great job! And now mind game!
Thank you! Do more tutorials, please!!
Really good video for a beginner like me. Thanks !!
Glad it was helpful!
By Ibuki i use her MK command dash to avoid (frame overlapping) wake up attack and CA.
its been use since ssf4 and usf4
ibukis command dash is not invincible at all, anyone doing a proper meaty attack will hit (or grab) you straight out of it.
@@mdz_jimmyactually light normal attack can stop not meaty but i used like shimmy, there is a ssf4 video about her dash avoiding wake up attacks by "Jay Rego", on sfv is possible too
@@phantomgamer4463 I'm really not sure what you're trying to say. ibukis command dash has no invincibility at all, it's less safe than jumping on wakeup, it can be hit by grabs and normal attacks.
This is a really good video, thank you
Thank you !
Is the neutral jump (offense) equivalent to shimmy ?
Beating late throw tech, but vulnerable to invisible reversals ?
Maybe more vulnerable to DP, so higher risk, but higher reward with a full jump in combo ?
yes you can do a well timed neutral jump to beat late crouch tech, it's essentially another form of a "shimmy", nobody calls it a shimmy though.
Miss these tutorial vids from you, Jimmy.
Would love to see a breakdown on how you approach fireball timings and fb risk/reward based on spacing, meter, and opponent observations!
I'm pretty scrub tier, but I feel like my fireballs get blown up way more in sfv than they did in sf4.
Fireballs are difficult to use in SFV because there are a lot more anti fireball tools in SFV compared to SFIV. Tutorials will become more frequent again once I hire an editor for the channel. At the moment it's kinda tough editing a new video everyday the way I do, especially now that I'm a dad I simply don't have a lot of time.
@@mdz_jimmy makes sense! Wishing you and your family all the best!
Awesome Vid Jimmy
Excelent video Jimmy. Thank you.
Command grabs eat me alive tho. I don't know how to process that extra layer. Any advice?
command grab characters are indeed tricky to deal with and they do change the wakeup game a lot. it's all about trying to find a pattern and showing your opponent that you're willing to just block and not freak out on wakeup. on high level, players with command grabs win without using command grabs a lot, it's the fear of the command grab and the resulting panic reactions that lead to big damage for them.
I should do a tutorial on that topic.
@@mdz_jimmy would be appreciated
Thank you for the simplicity
Thank you so much Jimmy!!!!
Awesome tutorial bruv!
jimmy swear your a champion
This was out a year ago and LTG still hasn't watched it 😅
😂😂
You didn’t know? LTG is the best at the game so he doesn’t need to know,even if he loses 63 times in a row.
Thanks Jimmy! Nice tutorial as aways ;)
Sehr gut erklärt, danke!
👌😉
Thanks bro, much appreciated.
How do you stop wake up mic ups
I always watch your videos thank you very much! What other options do I have if I use or fight against a grappler? I am a silver ranking player from Argentina. Sorry for my english.
When to press buttons on wake up ?
I thought Ryu Parry is simple enough to execute. But I tried it in training vs Ken EX shoruyken. Wow!!! The first part parry3x is easy.. the second part parry4x is like spam it!!. And still got it wrong 8/10 times.. the pros are damn good at this!!
If u find it hard on sfv then parrying on 3rd strike is......
SF 3 Third Strike is more complex...
is there a tutorial which includes offensive late tech? just cant do it right.
it's the same concept as regular late crouch tech. set your training dummy to wakeup with ex shoryuken and do a second recording with wakeup throw and then all you gotta do is knock the training dummy down and try to find the timing to block the EX shoryuken AND tech the throw with the same input.
@@mdz_jimmy ty man ur the greatest
Thanks Jimmy
Can you defensively shimmy? I mean, when you backdash on wakeup, and if offensive player does a throw, can that backdash be used as a shimmy, or would that be too slow?
Also, do wakeup DPs beat meaty normals? Do wakeup DPs hit shimmys?
Excelent video, holy
Hi Jimmy! In terme of reward, is a back jump more effective than backdash because of Crush Counter property?
That was nice. By the way, there's something on shaved Ruy's pants xDDD Just near the belt.
Does anyone know any ryu beginner guides that are recent like within the year? Trying to learn sfv and have ryu as my main
I will be doing an updated combo guide for Ryu within the next couple of weeks. In case you haven't watched it yet here's the old one that I did which is still mostly accurate and should be useful for beginners: ua-cam.com/video/3GIHWwwbBMQ/v-deo.html
@@mdz_jimmy thanks a lot!
There's a time to block and time to guess..welcome to Street Fighter Fiiiiive! 🎶🎶🎶
But where's the information about how you react to Balrogs overhead?
I guess, just react?
Guess. xD
still trying to figure that one out :P
Isn't Balrog minus during the animation of his spin? I think so. Just jab him out of it during the start up.
@@Vandalier74 don't worry about it, it's just an inside joke from my stream ;)
thx a lot!
This video should be in the tutorial for sfv
so one day, you can be a jimmy too!
Mah man
How does this change against characters with a command grab?
the dynamic is somewhat different because command grab characters never have a problem of opening up someone. the idea is to mix up the timing on when to defend against command grabs and to make sure you don't panic. this is particularly true on high level where players mostly win without ever using command grab but using the fear of it to land regular attacks on wakeup.
I'll cover this in a future tutorial for sure.
thank so muck bro.
I promise if this was in a game tutorial less people would have dropped it.
Omfg Thank you
what about wake up jump? same as backdash?
similar but has a higher risk of being punished on high level. on the other hand it does punish some shimmy attempts very nicely so it's not easy to say which option is better.
I initially wanted to put neutral jump as the option to showcase but ultimately decided to put backdash in it as it is safer and is actually intended to be used like that.
@@mdz_jimmy thanks, now time to destroy this fellow bronze
Hi jimmy!!! It's norcal deputydawg
te amo
WHAT TO DO WITH JUMPS WHEN YOU ON THE GROUND&!&!&!&!&7?7!?!?
Ok, how do I stand up quickly?
when you fall to the ground you need to press either 2 punch buttons or press down. If you want to use back roll option you press 2 kick buttons or press back.
@@mdz_jimmy 😳no wonder I spent 3 seconds on the ground. Coming from tekken and just starting out
Do you not have a Dojo for you and your Ryu fans? I'd love to join if so and if you have room... (also... I suck)
I do have a dojo yes, I just don't use that functionality right now :D the dojo name is MDZ_jimmY_Dojo so feel free to join. just don't expect anything right now ;)
ED's Wakeup EX DP can cover all...XD
That statement of react-able grabs being bad is a totally incorrect statement.
Try playing a game with a react-able throw; I guarantee you are still not going to tech them most of the time. Skullgirls has it like that with throw conversions, even, and people get chucked ten ways from Sunday.
Anyways, excellent video, and this was extraordinarily helpful.
I don't play Skullgirls so please correct me if I'm wrong here but a quick google search tells me Skullgirls has a 13F tech window on throws and that is 100% outside of human reaction speed. Top players in SFV need around 16-17 frames to react to an expected clear visual cue.
Wait you left out low mediums on wake up to stuff offensive shimmes and late tech lol
I left out a lot of possibilities on purpose to make it easier to understand some basics for the wakeup situation. I will go into more details and other options in a follow up video at some point.
actually i cant with this game, always lose with fucking combos and can't block or wake up anything...
Meat-tee
me-tea
Gonna be sad when mk11 comes out... its gonna kill sfv player base for a while or maybe for good =( Am i the only person who actually likes sfv?!
MK11 is not gonna kill off SFV lol DBFZ couldn't achieve that and I highly doubt MK11 will have the same commercial success as DBFZ. just like any other MK, MK11 is gonna be very popular at the beginning and after a few weeks nobody will care about it anymore. I'm not saying this as MK hater or anything, it's just an observable thing throughout the years.
MenaRd is the best player in the Fgc, leave a like if you agree
At least once a month.
Eh idk he’s incredible but not sure if he’s the best.
Bro ...... no
I have no clue what the original comment said, but it's completely different from the one displayed here.
MDZ jimmY An edited comment is the equivalent to a mee tee attack.