thing is in both end she IS judged by the law, zen himself said "rika action will be judged by the law, wether we forgive her or not is up to us" the difference between the forgive ending and judge ending is that us player still refuse to forgive rika and condemn her ontop of her punishment by law, it was never about forgiving her and letting her get away from her actions, but about if we want to move away and let rika have her freedom after she gets punished by the law
Forgiveness is usually done not for the person being forgiven but for the person forgiving, to free themselves of the pain that holds them tight and the stress which avoids them from living a happy normal life. That's why I went with the forgive route but I was curious to see what the judge route looked like, I am glad I did because it makes me firm in my liking for the forgive route.
No, no really. You don't have to forgive ANYONE, to move on from the abuse they have given you. Never should you ever forgive someone just because you want "peace" that you could accomplish within yourself without that.
The only thing salvageable from this bullshit ending is 17:02 Like seriously, Cheritz really showed their bias when making this ending. Why bother making two separate endings when you're going to guilt trip the player in one of them for believing Rika deserves to be punished for her crimes?
Seriously!! The gall to be like "is this what you wanted?" No, i just dont want to be guilt tripped into forgivjng the person who drove saeran to literal sui. She can be carted off to Alaska for all i care
Thank you for the video! I just finished the forgive ed and I was curious about the judge ed, I thought that the judge ed would be bad but at least is not that bad...
ok so um. they massacred saeyoung so much in the dream sequence holy shit . hes horrible in it. its so ooc for him and also its cruel for both rika and seven for him to cope by basically making her suffer. not only is that just plain horrible and unethical for rika, this will not heal saeyoung at all. its going to make him much worse i dont think this is supposed to be a good ending at all . what is probably the most shockingly jarring things here is how rika is forced to interact with the pastor guy who...i dont think i even want to get into what he did to her man. this is not justice. rika did some horrible things but she does not deserve this at all and even if you dont feel bad for her specifically, this is just horrible to all s/a survivors and abuse survivors in general. a victim trying to cope by lashing out on another victim and using their trauma against them is not fair. rika needs help, healing . she truly does feel guilty. remember that the heart and mind are intertwined. life broke rika, that trauma did major damage to her heart and soul and affected her mind, messing up her worldview. see, saeyoung or saeran or v or any other RFA member doesnt have to forgive her at all, they have the full right not to. but this? is harmful and cruel end to all parties. though im glad to see how yoosung talked to rika in the end. i am so, so happy to see the choi twins talk warmly with eachother . but i guess the dream sequence was exaggerated and absurd on purpose. i kid of get it if that is the case . but wow . it was definitely shocking
V & MC doesn’t get married here. Rika was a victim, just like Saeran. So making her life a living hell by not forgiving her is really cruel imo. Although it's called V's after ending, it'd be rather appropriate to call it Rika's after ending. Cheritz got alot of backlash for this when it came out.
@@oisharzakhairul8003 I mean, isn’t she kind of the reason why there’s a whole lot more suffering for the group or something like that? Saeran literally is so messed up and just about every route and gets better only in his. She has people calling her savior or something like that saeran has like two or maybe three personalities and a package of trauma didn’t she also to force him to drink whatever that thing was in the bottle had two people hold him down? And in v route, he literally ends up committing suicide from correct or blowing up the car with him in it while talking to the MC if I’m correct. I honestly feel like the group is kind of being a bit well not exactly forgiving, but like lenient while they’re in the chat talking about her health. I get that she’s not well and her parents did neglect or like abuse her and she is a victim but I honestly feel like she’s kind of wet off the hook, a bit easy with the others personally. 707 is rightfully pissed off at her and very angry and feeling the whole emotions. V it’s kind of stepping away and may not be injury, but is saying he could no longer really be there for her which, honestly I feel like he should’ve done way before. I don’t really see though how not forgiving her would be making her life living health personally not trying to sound rude but honestly after everything she’s done. If she’s going to be forgiven, I feel like she should at least earn it or that it’ll take time.
hm... idk this ending is kinda eh cus what RFA people are saying to rika is very cruel, and holding the grudge doesnt do anyone's good? i prefer letting the law judges her tho and also i didnt expect the members of the RFA could utter such cruel words to her (which is justified but this is going too far) and the "send yourself in a lab" or "sacrificing urself to keep people horribly entertained" ???? this is morally bad imo. Thank you for letting us know the ending, its an interesting take on the difference between "forgive" and "judge"
Play Speed for starting was normal, but then later, dialogues got cut more and more (like your patience running thin in recording??) - why skipped so much for later parts??? Really became unwatchable later when so much dialogues didn't fully play.
Same! I thought I was the only one who loves and cares for Rika. She's been through so much. The whole cult thing wasn’t even planned by her. She wanted to save them in her way. She's just a victim, like Saeran. She should be punished but not to this extent.
@@oisharzakhairul8003 exactly! mika was the one who started the cult thing. i really love rika so seeing this ending hurts sm :/ saeyoung even said that rika should become the pastors wife, while the pastor literally sexually assaulted rika in the past. it just breaks my heart, he really went to far with that. rika deserves better
@@rose-ge4ut ikr. I wish they judged her LEGALLY instead of putting her into an endless nightmare. And therapy just doesn’t exist in this game. V fucked up so many times too. And V even denied his love for Rika, calling it just an obsession. She really never received love. Ugh.
@@oisharzakhairul8003 yes!! v should have never asked rika to marry him or start a relationship in the first place, he never truly loved rika. it pisses me off that people keep making up excuses to hate rika and forgive the others :( if rika received real love this wouldn’t have happened.
@@oisharzakhairul8003 YES XD been playing hsr lately. but on the serious note, i think judge ending so cruel. i cant like rika cuz ofc she had traumatize past but i cant help it. i cant forget everything that she do that makes RFA members suffering so much. but still, this judge ending really cruel and i cant help but crying seeing her in so much pain. she needs professional help instead being in vegetative state :(
@@kkukurkuro I dropped HSR, don’t like turn based game. Hope you’re enjoying it. Btw, I agree. She should’ve gotten professional help. And she should’ve been judged legally. This ending just forced us to feel bad which I didn’t like. So I prefer the forgive ending over this.
I know Rika did a lot of shit, but I just cannot bring myself to get this ending, she suffered a lot, and this ending makes me really sad.. she's so desperate :(
![[Mystic Messenger] Saeran's Route: Final Day Good Ending](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QRtNPCivLpQ/mqdefault.jpg)
this ending had so much potential if they did it right. just take legal action or put the woman in therapy, don’t torture the poor thing
this would be better if she was just judged by the law...
thing is in both end she IS judged by the law, zen himself said "rika action will be judged by the law, wether we forgive her or not is up to us" the difference between the forgive ending and judge ending is that us player still refuse to forgive rika and condemn her ontop of her punishment by law, it was never about forgiving her and letting her get away from her actions, but about if we want to move away and let rika have her freedom after she gets punished by the law
This ending kinda hurts Rika, but it doesn't seem to be completely a bad ending at all. At least in my opinion...
I mean technically it's V's AE, mc still ends up with him, the choi twins reconcile, Yoosung goes back to being normal. So yep. I agree.
We had heavy drama but the bg music is a mood breaker.
Forgiveness is usually done not for the person being forgiven but for the person forgiving, to free themselves of the pain that holds them tight and the stress which avoids them from living a happy normal life. That's why I went with the forgive route but I was curious to see what the judge route looked like, I am glad I did because it makes me firm in my liking for the forgive route.
No, no really. You don't have to forgive ANYONE, to move on from the abuse they have given you. Never should you ever forgive someone just because you want "peace" that you could accomplish within yourself without that.
The only thing salvageable from this bullshit ending is 17:02
Like seriously, Cheritz really showed their bias when making this ending. Why bother making two separate endings when you're going to guilt trip the player in one of them for believing Rika deserves to be punished for her crimes?
Seriously!! The gall to be like "is this what you wanted?" No, i just dont want to be guilt tripped into forgivjng the person who drove saeran to literal sui. She can be carted off to Alaska for all i care
@@ItsActuallyKate FR LIKE WHAT WERE YOU THINKING CHERITZ 😭
im still pissed off they did that like wtf
Im sorry if this is random but Jaehee's wow was so cute 😭💀
It was cruel, but she deserved what she did to Ray
Thank you for the video! I just finished the forgive ed and I was curious about the judge ed, I thought that the judge ed would be bad but at least is not that bad...
I'm glad I could be of help ❤️
ok so um. they massacred saeyoung so much in the dream sequence
holy shit . hes horrible in it.
its so ooc for him and also its cruel for both rika and seven for him to cope by basically making her suffer. not only is that just plain horrible and unethical for rika, this will not heal saeyoung at all. its going to make him much worse
i dont think this is supposed to be a good ending at all .
what is probably the most shockingly jarring things here is how rika is forced to interact with the pastor guy who...i dont think i even want to get into what he did to her man. this is not justice. rika did some horrible things but she does not deserve this at all and even if you dont feel bad for her specifically, this is just horrible to all s/a survivors and abuse survivors in general. a victim trying to cope by lashing out on another victim and using their trauma against them is not fair. rika needs help, healing . she truly does feel guilty. remember that the heart and mind are intertwined. life broke rika, that trauma did major damage to her heart and soul and affected her mind, messing up her worldview.
see, saeyoung or saeran or v or any other RFA member doesnt have to forgive her at all, they have the full right not to. but this? is harmful and cruel end to all parties.
though im glad to see how yoosung talked to rika in the end. i am so, so happy to see the choi twins talk warmly with eachother . but i guess the dream sequence was exaggerated and absurd on purpose. i kid of get it if that is the case . but wow . it was definitely shocking
This is WAYY TOO FAR why the HELL would they make her relive her own trauma from when she was a child by sending her with the man who SA'd her
EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN LIKE ???? who allowed this??😭
Wow lovely one ..
Idk why but the judge ending feels empty for some reason unlike the forgive one
V & MC doesn’t get married here. Rika was a victim, just like Saeran. So making her life a living hell by not forgiving her is really cruel imo. Although it's called V's after ending, it'd be rather appropriate to call it Rika's after ending. Cheritz got alot of backlash for this when it came out.
@@oisharzakhairul8003 I mean, isn’t she kind of the reason why there’s a whole lot more suffering for the group or something like that? Saeran literally is so messed up and just about every route and gets better only in his. She has people calling her savior or something like that saeran has like two or maybe three personalities and a package of trauma didn’t she also to force him to drink whatever that thing was in the bottle had two people hold him down? And in v route, he literally ends up committing suicide from correct or blowing up the car with him in it while talking to the MC if I’m correct. I honestly feel like the group is kind of being a bit well not exactly forgiving, but like lenient while they’re in the chat talking about her health. I get that she’s not well and her parents did neglect or like abuse her and she is a victim but I honestly feel like she’s kind of wet off the hook, a bit easy with the others personally. 707 is rightfully pissed off at her and very angry and feeling the whole emotions. V it’s kind of stepping away and may not be injury, but is saying he could no longer really be there for her which, honestly I feel like he should’ve done way before. I don’t really see though how not forgiving her would be making her life living health personally not trying to sound rude but honestly after everything she’s done. If she’s going to be forgiven, I feel like she should at least earn it or that it’ll take time.
@@oisharzakhairul8003oh good. as they should have😭 extremely jarring ending and absurdly cruel. i don't know how this got greenlit as a script
hm... idk this ending is kinda eh cus what RFA people are saying to rika is very cruel, and holding the grudge doesnt do anyone's good? i prefer letting the law judges her tho and also i didnt expect the members of the RFA could utter such cruel words to her (which is justified but this is going too far) and the "send yourself in a lab" or "sacrificing urself to keep people horribly entertained" ???? this is morally bad imo. Thank you for letting us know the ending, its an interesting take on the difference between "forgive" and "judge"
Though it wasn't the real RFA members actually saying that, it was all just an insane dream sequence. I would've been really upset if it were real :(
Why can't I find this version of mysterious clues anywhere on UA-cam :(((
Same. I found the april fools version but not this one. The og version is too dark for me.
Play Speed for starting was normal, but then later, dialogues got cut more and more (like your patience running thin in recording??) - why skipped so much for later parts??? Really became unwatchable later when so much dialogues didn't fully play.
does anyone know where i can find a video of the forgive ending?
How to choose judge and forgive?
poor rika, i’d do anything to save her tbh.
Same! I thought I was the only one who loves and cares for Rika. She's been through so much. The whole cult thing wasn’t even planned by her. She wanted to save them in her way. She's just a victim, like Saeran. She should be punished but not to this extent.
@@oisharzakhairul8003 exactly! mika was the one who started the cult thing. i really love rika so seeing this ending hurts sm :/ saeyoung even said that rika should become the pastors wife, while the pastor literally sexually assaulted rika in the past. it just breaks my heart, he really went to far with that. rika deserves better
@@rose-ge4ut ikr. I wish they judged her LEGALLY instead of putting her into an endless nightmare. And therapy just doesn’t exist in this game. V fucked up so many times too. And V even denied his love for Rika, calling it just an obsession. She really never received love. Ugh.
@@oisharzakhairul8003 yes!! v should have never asked rika to marry him or start a relationship in the first place, he never truly loved rika. it pisses me off that people keep making up excuses to hate rika and forgive the others :( if rika received real love this wouldn’t have happened.
@@rose-ge4ut Cheritz didn’t do her justice, at all. Thank you. Glad we think the same way. ❤️
Damn, u got an email from model
You mean in-game? 😂 Also is that Dan Heng in your pfp? NICE
@@oisharzakhairul8003 YES XD been playing hsr lately. but on the serious note, i think judge ending so cruel. i cant like rika cuz ofc she had traumatize past but i cant help it. i cant forget everything that she do that makes RFA members suffering so much. but still, this judge ending really cruel and i cant help but crying seeing her in so much pain. she needs professional help instead being in vegetative state :(
@@kkukurkuro I dropped HSR, don’t like turn based game. Hope you’re enjoying it. Btw, I agree. She should’ve gotten professional help. And she should’ve been judged legally. This ending just forced us to feel bad which I didn’t like. So I prefer the forgive ending over this.
I know Rika did a lot of shit, but I just cannot bring myself to get this ending, she suffered a lot, and this ending makes me really sad.. she's so desperate :(
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To be honest, I feel no sympathy. Maybe I’m just a heartless person :)