Also, they say to use 30 weight motor oil to lubricate the push rod, but I have been using 75W - 90 Amsoil severe gear differential oil that I use on my truck for differentials, and as the consistency is also much thicker it lubricates it fantastic.
Thank you, I actually got two bottles of Corbin’s lube, and I also got one of imperial extremely high lubricity for case forming and full length resizing that will not stick in case or die, that’s right from the label. They both work fantastic, but honestly the bullet lube worked better than anything on the hollow point because it’s much more thick consistency made it adhere to the pin, and makes it much easier to remove the slugs after you press them. The others do as well, but not as well as the bullet lube.
Hello Christopher, I will be receiving my Pressslug press and die set very soon and pardon me for asking a question concerning to slug after being made. I know most slugs have several types of bottoms - example cup base , flat base etc.. was wondering what type of bottom does the dies create? Thanks.
@@anthonyferguson1644 hey Anthony, don’t excuse yourself, you can ask me anything you want. I’m just another guy. It makes a cup base on 2nd Gen. 1st made flat or depressed, but the 2nd Gen. are by FAR the most accurate
Hey Christopher, Thanks for responding to the reply and yes I'm learning about making ammo for air rifles. A little about my self- I'm a Military Vet and spent a number of years defending or freedoms and part of that is of course it the freedom to bare arms. I strongly believing in having the right to defend one self and family as well as hunt, which I do. Now at my ripe old age I'm having a ball with my air rifles and own several from AirForce to Umarex. Enough about me , The main reason I wanted to contact you was I was curious about the finished product of the slug because there was no information when I ordered the press, My press should be here Tuesday and along with the press one die comes with it and I opted for the 30 caliber so I can feed my Umarex Gauntlet 2 .30 cal. As time goes on I will order another die for .357 for my AEA Challenger Pro. I'm sorry keep getting off topic... the slug base , there is no information as what type of base it creates if any at all. Again thank you for your input and hope all goes well for you and your family.
@@anthonyferguson1644 so they had two generations generation, one and generation two of the dies, the first generation had a flat base and an indented base, not concave, but abruptly indented, now, the second generation has a concave base and also the slug is shaped differently, which I’ve machined my own dies to make full metal jacket shaped rounds like a 556, I did my own little bit of time in the Marines, so I’m sure you know what I mean, I’ve machine to the part that makes the hollowpoint to be reversed. It was very hard on the 22 caliber I ordered everything from 22 to 35, the AEA guns are really not the greatest guns. I have two of them myself, the terminator 357, and the bull pup 30 caliber challenger, 32 inch barrel, which is a beast, but does not even come close to comparing to the western rattler, that thing shoots 180 grain slugs over 900 ft./s! 130 green slugs over 1000, 150 grand right around 1000. I have a couple other videos where you can see close-ups of the slugs so you can see what they look like. I don’t know if I showed the back but they are concave on the newer generation.
Nice to hear that you took some vacation. Like you I've been around firearms for most of my life including the time spent in the Gulf war. Yes I'm a veteran. Needless to say I've been around firearms all my life and years ago use to shoot nearly every weekend but the prices of ammo have gone up soooo much I wanted to find another way to continue my shooting. Answer was the air gun. I live in the town or city limits and shooting a firearm will put me under the jail so again air guns fit the bill. I'm saving money for the equipment for the scraps after making slugs that I can nearly eliminate the waste to be used over into creating slugs for my use. I'm about to place an order for a Lee blank form and take to my local machine shop have them bore the size i want for my 30 cal for lead cores to be used with the press.
So I have the equipment to do that, I have a professional lathe, and milling table, drill press, all that fun shit along with plasma, cutter, multiprocess, welder, serious workshop. If you need something you can let me know I’ll be happy to help you out. Let me know if anyone is interested in the AEA guns, but I’d be happy to try to make that stuff for you. I’ve already made parts to modify my own. But get your press first and see how you like it, I’m sure you will love it I love mine, I built a huge bullet trap, 6 feet high and 8 feet wide. I bought a smelting pot to burn off all the crap from targets, then I use a lee melting pot with the spout that pours right into the molds, and it makes it nice and easy
So, as far as shooting targets, I never waste any lead. I bought a bunch of 25 pound rolls of lead wire, and I had a shit load of chimney lead for roofing, I started making bullets, and I have not run out of the lead I have for crucibles Full of lead. Probably 30 pounds each right now that needs to be casted and a full 20 pound pot along with about six rolls in different calibers. I won’t be running out of ammo anytime soon. Not to mention I have about 50 drawers, full of different calibers and weights already pressed as you’ll see in some of my videos.
You are rite if you need anything to do with Edgun buy it from them! I have bought several items from them. The shipping to USA 🇺🇸 is faster than you can get it from the USA dealer! They are great folks for sure. Keep the great videos coming I been looking at this same press setup from them. 👍
I said, go for it, Brother, it’s amazing the amount of money you can save on ammunition if you shoot a lot. I do shoot a lot, especially during the competition season and literally you’re getting over 4000 slugs for the price of two tins of slugs! It’s unbelievable the savings. It is time-consuming, and a big investment upfront, but the amount of money you save will pay for itself, without question, mine already has
Couple of questions. For your.357 rattler are you using the 9.09 mm die? Also it shows 80.45gr to 126.73gr. Is 126.73 biggest you can make with this die? Thanks
@@themulesheriff3009 That's not true, I have made them up to 200 grain, and mine is a little smaller, I don't know off the top of my head, but it's a little smaller. There are a lot of adjustments, plus I have machined some of my own parts.
@@Cjsairgunscarsandmachining they make 8.92mm ( .3512 ) and 9.09mm ( .358 I see it now listed on preorder at air gun tactical for $1484.96 shipped! With one die set!! That’s a good deal So your die is the 8.92mm ? I need to make sure I get the right size for my rattler .357 that I have ordered. Can you look 👀 on your die to make sure of the size? Thanks 🙏
I looked at this press and wind it up going with the Corbin. At least as of right now you can do a lot more with Corbin’s. It’s still is a sweet looking press though. I make normal and hybrid style with mine. Mine shoot amazing as well.
Hi Chris, as a person who worked in the lead crystal industry for over thirty years, I should warrn you about handling lead. You really should be wearing disposable vynil gloves when handling lead. Just looking at your hands and fingers made me a little worried. Lead can easily enter your body. The problem is that once in your body, it can't get out and always settles in your bones. Old lead workers when X-rayed, would look like their bones had been peppered with a shotgun! Once in there, it's there for good and weakens the bones. That's why Lead (Pb) is classed as toxic. Wear disposable gloves and you will be fine. Never ever eat food with your hands if you've been handling lead without washing them. If melting down lead, always wear a good quality mask and have good extraction (if doing it indoors). You can buy a box of disposable latex or vynil gloves for a few dollars. I really enjoyed your video because I've decided to get one of these presses. If a lead ban comes in, you won't be able to buy pellets or slugs so this will be the only way to go as I don't think anyone has come up with a good lead free alternative yet. I'm in England in the UK and it's already started here.
Hey, I really appreciate your concern, but my hands are actually dirtier when I start, then you would expect I’m always working on my machinery and vehicles, also, I am an EPA lead safe, certified firm, I do lead removal for a living. So I am extremely familiar with lead levels and are the effects of the contaminants of lead. Honestly, thank you so much for expressing your concern. It’s genuinely appreciated, but my hands are not getting all that dirty from the lead and I wash them right after, the only reason I don’t use gloves is because they make it so much more difficult to handle things that small. I don’t put it in my mouth or anywhere open and I wash my hands thoroughly as soon as I’m done. But honestly, please don’t think I’m being sarcastic. I genuinely appreciate the concern.
@@mikesmith8313 No worries, I genuinely appreciated the concern, but I'm aware of al that, and more importantly my hands are always dirty, I do a lot of metal work, machining, and automotive.
@@mikesmith8313 In my next video I'm going to put an enlarged copy of my EPA CERTIFICATION FOR LEAD!!!! In case you missed that. Do you have one? So, mind your business. That is one small room in my 10,000 sqft workshop just for guns, dude, you don't know me, I expressed my appreciation for the concern, but my hands ARE NOT ONLY DIRTY FROM LEAD!! I own a property management company, and do HVAC, all my own vehicle, and heavy equipment maintenance, auto body, I can do, and have done everything my guys do, so my hands are always dirty. If you asked the question instead of ASSuming I'd happily answer. It's grease from working on my challenger, and in the previous days my cummins and my duramax dinali, and my kubota 250hr service before that. Anything else?
Can you try and make some tin slugs!? I would love to see how that works? I know it’s kind of expensive but a lead free option for me would be amazing for hunting !
Chris , You have made me feel like a donkey, I never thought to use some spacers in experimenting with the press . I understand the principal and knowing that is awesome. I'm currently made slugs that weight 56.5 gr and that is alright but not my preferred weight, so a trip to my local Lowe's will allow me to make the necessary adjustments to achieve my desired weight grain. Now looking for the other parts needed to reclaim the lead waste instead of tossing it out as rubbish. The hot pot 2 is in price range and also have my eyes on a Lee blank 6 cavity form. The blank form and hot pot will allow me to complete the reclaimed lead from waste and mistakes etc.
Hey man, I don’t know if I was doing this back when we messaged, but I’ve been making molds ever since I got a CNC machine six or eight months ago. I’ve made several of my own, and I started making suppressors, both machined and in 3-D printed material, and honestly, the 3-D, printed carbon fiber materials absorb more sound than the CNC machine aluminum, it’s kind of astounding! Anyway, I’m making mold myself so you can put a custom order in on my site and I can make it for you whatever diameter you want whatever length, etc.
I have the Challenger pro 30 cal I also have a challenger 30cal Bullpup 32" barrel Yes I think you misunderstood me If you remove the barrel there are 6 Holes around the barrel That pushes Behind the pallet Out of the barrel I drilled out those 2 drill bit sizes bigger To increase the air flow It is not like the fx Watch I believe only has one hole I think on your other video you Ordered one with a bigger hole to increase the air flow I hope you understand but It might have been my fault not explaining right Anyway I love what you did with your Fx A lot of power and And very accurate Also shooting heavier slugs
Oh, I totally understand what you’re saying now, yes, I consider doing that to my transfer port as well that’s what that’s called. It’s a transfer port, but huma made one specifically for this gun, so I ordered them for each caliber they were pretty cheap. Like 30 bucks each, so I figured, instead of drilling the holes bigger I would have used my CNC and just made them longer on each side of the piece that keeps the slug from falling in, I’m sure it would have worked great, but they had them premade, so I just ordered them. But that’s the right idea. That’s what I would have done if I didn’t want to spend the money. I just spent so much on that gun, it was worth it to get the right parts. If it was a cheaper gun, I would have done the same thing. But I’m sure that made a big difference. That gun I actually made a video I have to finish it and post it, but I got almost 1300 ft./s with a 19 grain pellet, and 1170 ft./s with a 28 grain slug, with my 50 grain slugs I’m getting about 1000 in the video you will hear the sound barrier crack because the gun is quiet, then you hear that big loud crack of the sound barrier breaking. I’ll put it up soon.
I ordered a Daystate Delta wolf, that’s the next gun I’m going to be reviewing. And I buy these guns with my own money, no one is giving me promotional items or anything to review for them, it’s my honest opinion on guns I’m buying with my own money.
Nice and informative, but the need for a better clearer camera is a must if you are thinking for your next video if you plan on making more videos, and hope you do. But all in all great job...
Thank you very much I appreciate the compliment. Genuinely, I use my iPhone 14 Pro, it has pretty high resolution, but I do have a DSLR camera, but don’t intend on using it for videos. I have the microphone that hooks up to the iPhone, and when I use the rear cameras, they are 48 megapixel. Most of the cameras on the market are not any better. The only difference is that I’m not zooming in on certain things which another person mentioned then I’m going to start doing so you guys can see closer, but as far as the camera itself I’m probably not going to change it. I don’t benefit in any way monetarily for doing this. I’ve benefit because I get to spread the word and show people how to do things and help other people. I’ve made the investment for the microphones and some other things to be able to do the videos just so I can do that. That’s more valuable to me than any amount they could pay me anyway. And I don’t get enough viewers for them to offer me anything and if someday I do, I would consider spending any money I made benefiting from doing these videos on doing them better, but in the meantime, I’m happy spending my own money on the things I have and more when it comes up, but a camera specifically for this, it just makes it harder to edit the video in the software, and it makes more work, I like to just take the video and upload it. But I am going to do some more close-ups, so you guys can see things more clearly, and hopefully everyone noticed the voice improvements with the microphone I bought, but thank you very much for the compliment, it’s guys like you that appreciate the information and the thought behind showing everyone how to do these things that keeps me doing this
Hello @Christoper loved the video and talking about the slug press.. Is there any possible way I could buy like 100-200 45gr .30 slugs from you to see if My FX impact will shoot them good? I'd hate to spend over $2k buying all the stuff and My gun hate the slugs! Thanx Kirk
Hey Rollin. Yeah sure I could make you a couple hundred 45 grain, but I have an FX impact and I have the 20 to 25 and 30 caliber set ups, and it shoots heavier than 45 grain. I can shoot up to 69 grain at pretty high velocity’s, I’m not sure what you’ve done to your impact if you have modified it at all, but I have modified mine heavily. All the internals, as well as external modifications, but the power modifications are what makes the difference when shooting, heavy, slugs like that. Even in 25 caliber, I shoot 50 grain in that, my crown, and my Pantera. The other two are only 25 caliber at the moment, but 25 caliber up to 56 grain generally 50 grain. Anyway, sure I’d be happy to you can email me. CJ110109@gmail.com.
Sorry to hear that, you should contact them the person I usually talk to his name is Matthias, he’s been great, I’ve got an edgun Leshiy from them, he was my point of contact for that as well, he’s always been very helpful. Give him a call and let him know what you ended up with and what you were looking for. I’m sure they will make it right
He Chris- thanks a ton. Can you quickly share what variables one can customize with the presslug. It looks like the Ogive is set, but you can customize the depth, hollow point, and flat or dish end? Can the ogive be adjusted??? I have an FX M3 Impact .25 caliber. Just wondering if there are enough variables to customize to really dial in the accuarcy?
Hello! Yes, the point is rounder, and the slug is more oblong, they are so effective. Incredibly accurate! Contact Matthias at Wolfiek group, or edgun. They were awesome with me.
Chris are you using lead wire form Corbin? From what i read from Presslug they recommend 6mm lead wire for 25 slugs and 7mm for 30, Is this what you use? Where do you recommend purchasing lead wire from and what sizes for 25 and 30 cal slugs? Tnx
The sizes don’t have to be exactly what those recommendations are, it can be a little more narrow, it just can’t be wider than the hole in the cylinder of the die. When you use the press, it will smash it down and push the access through the holes. So you could even use 25 caliber wire for 30 caliber slugs, but not much further than that. Honestly, Corbin has been the best to deal with as his prices are really reasonable but the shipping kills you. You just have to order a lot at once. The shipping is a whole Nother roll so order at least three or four that’s what I do, but I also order 5 pound rolls with no shipping charges for 33 bucks from Amazon for now from optics planet, which is the seller on Amazon
Hey Chris, Just got my Presslug press set up and would like to ask you a question concerning your 30 cal slug set up. I've got my press as far down as I could and placed my slug core into the press and was getting mainly 55.5 gr and was wondering what are you getting grain weight? I'm hoping to have it set at it's lowest grain setting possible . According to the web site they claim .30 CALIBER DIE: MINIMUM 51.79 GRAINS TO MAXIMUM 82.36 GRAINS. Also I have the second generation of dies because it create a dish base instead of a flat base. Any suggestions would be great to hear. thanks.
OK cool I’m glad you got the second generation because the shape of the slug is much different as well, much better in the second generation. They’re much more accurate, you can definitely get more space down you use a spacer on the threads when you screw the top part in, you can use the washer.
Also, the whole top part can screw down. Not just the part that adjusts through the whole adjustment piece down but I don’t change mine because I have all the settings for the grain weights that I make
Hello Chriss. I have bought the presslug with the first generation of dies which is more conical. Can you confirm that I can find that gen 2 dies in .22 and .25 at Edgun shop. I already pulled the trigger for the one in .22 but want to know is the .25 cal one is also like the one you showed on the left. Amazing press so far brilliant working. Cheers
Hello, yes, I actually bought all four sizes, and the 25 caliber, 22 caliber, 30 caliber, and 357 bulb work perfectly. I would highly recommend any size that you would use.
I can add a close-up photo of the old ones and the new ones. The new ones I can tell you for certain are much more accurate, the old ones I would compare to a pointed slug on a 556 round only hollow pointed, the newer ones I would compare to a 9 mm handgun slug only hollow, pointed, and whatever size you want. More rounded, the old ones were more pointed. It’s much better because you get a higher Grain weight just by the shape. And if you use the flat back, you will get even more, but the slight concave back is actually very nice. It catches the air very nicely. It’s better than the indented ones they used to have, and the ones that were flat. I’ll add a photo of them next to each other.
The accuracy is fantastic, take a look at some of my videos. Even the recent one with the western rattler shooting 357 slugs, I press those in that press. You can make them as big as you want. I’ve gotten as high as almost 200 g with that gun
Hi Christopher I have two questions 1 In .edgun they already have the new version of Die for Presslug because I bought my press on June 13, 2022 and I have the putiaguada version and I don't like it very much. I prefer the most recent version 2 if the calibers 177,22,25,30 already have the new version
So you probably have the second version which is what I have, I already purchased mine. I don’t remember exactly what month, I can find out, but it was around the same time. It wasn’t much before that. I would have to look to be honest with you I don’t remember exactly, but I don’t do 177, smallest I do is 22, but I go up to 35. They actually have a whole Nother new set out but the ones that I got the second series were perfect for my FX guns, and I bought a 35 caliber edgun Leshiy, and turned it into a 25 caliber, the only thing is those alpha precision barrels aren’t my favorite the Lothar Walther barrels would have been great, but they are choked. So I am going to make my own barrel for it with an STX liner and a heavy slug liner. I’m going to cut down an extra 700 mm that I have to a 450 mm which is what the gun is.
Also, so they came up with different sizes that are different diameters within thousands of an inch, they have a few thousand 7 inch in each direction. If you have the second generation ones like mine, I think they are perfect for any STX barrel, and really, my Weston rattler is shooting 200 grain 357 slugs at 1000 ft./s! It’s fucking unreal! And dead accurate! I shot a crow at 167 yards, and it exploded. So I actually bought mine of January 2023, I just checked the emails with Spain, so they literally came out with those as I bought it. I got the first generation, and they changed them for me for the second generation, after I had already gotten them, and I added the 357 at the end because at first I ordered 20 to 25 and 30, so if you haven’t gotten new ones since then, those weren’t out back Then, but now there are those new ones that I have that are less pointed, and they have a concaved back But now they are also making them in all different diameters above and below standard 218, standard 2496, so on
@@Cjsairgunscarsandmachining Thank you for answering, I really appreciate that you take your time Christopher 1 a question where I sew a larger diameter like the 218 for a TJ barrel, which is the diameter you like if you have a link? thank you so much
@@PCLinuxOSX 2-0.2196, and that works perfectly in any STX barrel. Whether it’s the heavy slug liner, or the regular, STX, they shoot perfectly out of those guns. Unbelievable accuracy, it broke my heart. I’m on my way to the pyramid cup right now, and I had to turn down my FX impact from 1050 to 1070 ft./s with 42 grain slugs in 22 caliber all the way down to 22 caliber with grain pellets. Before I made any adjustments, it shot 1430 ft./s, the HM 1000 XRAW did not shoot that fast. It was a little over 1000, but it was even harder to get it down that far.
I have purchased many slugs I have Only found a few that should OK But not great I would like to try some of your slugs Is that possible to buy Some slugs from you So I maybe you can get that same set up I haven't Is scene accuracy like that In the grouping you showed
I have actually been considering selling custom size hand pressed slugs, but haven’t gotten there yet as I have 2 other businesses. This is more of a passion. But sure, you could be my first customer. But first, what gun? Did you see my accuracy modifications to my M3?
Hey christopher Yes I watched your videos last night on Is your modifications To increase your velocities to shoot slugs I did the same thing On my AEA 25 Cal varmint I don't have an M3 That would be Nice I did my own modifications This is what I did I'm mine I drilled out the airports around my barrel I put a lighter valve spring I Added a regulator And finally had to add a bigger bottle because I was losing too much air Too fast With higher velocities I put a 700 cc air tank Carbon fiber I wish I can show you my Chronograph Numbers But I can shoot a 38.9g nsa at 1004fps
Hey, you can call me, Chris, and yeah, the impact is an awesome gun. It’s very customizable, I have an ATA terminator 357, and an AEA challenger 30 Cal. I think I’m going to sell the terminator because I bought the western rattler, and it pales in comparison. With the FX impact and the modifications I’ve done I can get 70 grain 30 caliber slugs over 1050 ft./s, it’s not so much the speed in 25 caliber I shoot 50 grain slugs, and I can get them supersonic. It’s a really powerful gun and I put a 700 cc bottle on that as well, but it also has the Plenum full of air in the back. The whole design of that gun is really impeccable. Not much else out there like it. It kind of changed the whole air gun industry. But it sounds like you did a lot of modifications to your AEA, I am not sure what you mean when you say drilled holes in the barrel that doesn’t sound like a good idea, but I must be misunderstanding you. You want the air to stay behind the slug, right up until the end of the barrel. If it goes any more than at the end of the barrel, it will throw off accuracy, any less, and you will lose velocity.
Dear Franck on the 2nd Generation of the slugs I have changed the shape of the slug and also length of the hollow point to keep centre of gravity very close to center of pressure during whole flight of the slug. The 2nd Generation I have designed for speeds 240-315m/s which 787-1033fps and the shape accommodates the wind tunnel and twist rate, average air humidity aerodynamics.
Actually, dude, it was 2000, and another 900 in additional dies, and it was well worth it because you know something I pay $81 for a roll of lead wire, and that produces 3800 heavyweight slugs, how many do you get for $100 maybe three tins of 150, so you get 450 for $100 I get almost 4000 for $82! Who do you think is making out in the long run? If you were any kind of businessman or had a brain, you would be able to do the math and figure out that you were saving a tremendous amount of money instead of making some snide comment about how stupid I am for spending $1600 not knowing that if you could afford it, you would buy it too stop being resentful at other people who have money just because you don’t! You should be happy for other people who succeed. I am! Even if they succeeded more than I ever have or ever will, I’m still tremendously happy for them, because I like to see other people do well. I hate to see other people try to bring people down who do well, people like you that make these snide comments about topics that you have no clue about! Have you even looked into the product, have you even done any kind of research that would make you anyone to even make a comment like that? Because I’m willing to bet you haven’t done any research at all. You don’t even know the actual price! You’ve made that clear in your comment! You do not know how much the actual thing cost. You don’t know the benefits of doing it that way, but yet you’re still making comments about something you know nothing about! Why don’t you know your role, and make comments when you actually know what you’re talking about because you obviously don’t! So if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all do us all a favor
Hello, I have been getting wire from Amazon and the diameter of that wire was 3/16 of an inch, but recently found out that NSA slugs has been making their own lead wire, and selling what they can’t use. I recently ordered a 25 pound roll from them for 80 something dollars, cheaper than I had gotten it anywhere else before. They are always very reasonable on their slugs, and on the lead, so I would highly recommend them and you can get It, any size that slightly smaller than what you intend on using it for, as long as it will fit in the die and isn’t tremendously smaller, the day will press it to size
@@crypto_creep8222 you are ever so welcome, the whole reason I do these videos is to help people out who don’t know what to do or how to do it, or may not know some of the tricks you can find out and I don’t know everything but the stuff that I do know I’m happy to share, and have other people benefit from it. That is the cheapest place that you will find, and I have tried everywhere I have tried big commercial places that make it and they are tremendously expensive, I’ve tried Amazon eBay all of it. NSA is the most reasonable including shipping for a 25 pound roll at 80 something dollars even Corbin is a 10 pound roll for like $60 plus shipping, basically 2 1/2 times the amount you would get from Corbin
The best practice for led wire is to 0.9 multiplied by caliber, simply said it should not be too small and it needs to comfortably fit in to main die body, 2nd generation of presslug slug and dies are tested within CZ, LW standard and polygonal barrels and FX Standard and Heavy liners. For example our shape of the slugs for .22" Cal, hits the target most precisely with slug diameter exactly 0.2161 inch in all these barrels mentioned above. Did you know that FX liners have very aggressive choke at the end? .22cal slug shape is after going through choke completely re-formated and the diameter of slug is changed to 0.2059 inch and that completely change the whole balance of the slug and aerodynamics? That is why the shape of the slug is little-bit special. In normal barrels without choke and in FX barrel after slug shape is changed by choke it still keeps the aerodynamics. FX Superior standard barrel is suitable to shoot presslug .22cal. slugs between 23-27grains and everything heavier up to 34grains use Superior heavy liner, you can go up to 40grains but then you need faster twist rate 1/14". I do believe that FX have FX Superior liner (shouldn't be it called SuperHeavy :-)?) in 700mm length that is used by Mat Dubber to shoot those heavy and very long slugs
@@michalkuhn3078 so do you have a presslug? I don’t think you do because if you did, then you would know that they make slugs precisely 0.2169, and they fire incredibly accurately. Slug liners are not choked. Maybe the standard light liners, I have a choke, but slug liners, deliberately do not. That’s why they are called slug liners.
With the amount I spent on slugs combined with the accuracy of these was well worth it to me, but then again I can afford it. Was over 3k with all the dies. If you’re financial situation doesn’t permit that’s understandable.
This was a long time ago, buddy, before I ever got wireless microphones and what not. Unfortunately, I can’t go back to that time, but I have definitely upgraded since.
Let me ask you this, how much do you think you’ve spent on slugs? If you don’t buy enough, then it’s probably not worth it, but if you shoot a lot I promise you it is. 25 pounds of lead which is 185,000 grains is 80 bucks, you can make 3,854 48, grain 25 caliber slugs. Or you can buy four tins of slugs that will be like 28-32 grain. Makes sense now?
I’m curious, why? Are you worried about the health of the animal that you’re going to kill? Lol but seriously, if you do it properly it’s not any harm to you. Just wash your hands before and after, and when melting do it with proper ventilation, I’m EPA certified for lead removal, I know about this stuff. If you do things properly, it’s not causing you any harm. Unless you don’t have a way to do it with proper ventilation, or to melt it at all, but even lead wire, if you cut it and press it and wash your hands after thoroughly, or wear gloves, it’s not causing any harm to you. Is there another reason why? I actually add a small amount of tin to the pot when I’m melting the lead, because it will cast better but a very very small amount like one percent if that
The problem is you cannot make subcalibers as they do not offer slug dies in subcalibers. This is pretty pathetic because you buy an expensive equipment to make custom slugs and you cannot make custom slugs which have the dimensions which your barrel like.
That’s not true at all, I’m not sure why you think that? My gun actually shoots the slugs that that Press makes with the dye that I bought from them better than it has shot any other slug, and that’s the FX impact, but if you needed a different thousandth of an inch, you can use a different die in that press. The dies are like 50 bucks on Amazon
@@MasonStormSunny search it on Amazon, I’ve seen dyes on there for literally like 50 or $60, I never ordered any because the sizes are working well for what I need them for, also the 357 works perfect in the rattler. I get great accuracy, but if you need a different size, search that size.
@@MasonStormSunny also you would be surprised when it’s 100% lead or 95 to 99% because I had a little tin when I cast, the lead expands a little bit when the pressure hits it. So, if you needed it bigger, you would probably be all set. True lead without additives like in mass production expands pretty easily. That’s how you’re able to press them.
Hi, I am always testing the slugs for majority of the barrels that you can find on the market (CZ, LW standard riffling, LW Polygonal riffling, Alfa barrels and FX Superior standard and heavy liners. Remember the diameter of the slugs is of course important bore and groove diameter of the barrels, but these diameters are very similar across barrel industry. what is the most important is at least from my perspective as I am behind the presslug slugs shape development is what friction I get in the barrel and how is changed the shape of the slug at the bore end (FX Choke or non-choked barrels) and that shape and balance of the slug need to be working well within certain speeds and still have good aerodynamics. So what I wanted to say, the diameter of the slug is not dependant only on barrel but also on the shape of the slug itself.
I have the Corbin swage press but I was have a problem getting the lead wire but I found that I can get It from ROTOMETALS. They make the right die size for. 22 caliber for the 0.210 Corbin swage press. Please pass it along. And if you order enough it's free shipping.
Yeah, I actually spoke to them myself, but their text pricing is not competitive compared to NSA, the slug company. NSA makes lead wire now, and they sell what they don’t use for their slugs. They sell 25 pounds of whatever diameter there’s about 10 different diameters that they make, I get the 0.200 for 22, and it works fine within that small of a difference. It’s not going to really be noticeable when you’re pressing it, but I don’t think anyone else sells 25 pounds for $82 including shipping. I got 50 pounds for 165 bucks a few times now. Just look up NSA lead wire, it’s very easy to find and it’s the cheapest anywhere. I’ve checked with multiple companies like Roto metals, and I bought from Amazon I ordered from Corbin, Corbin is charging 60 something dollars plus shipping for 10 pounds! So essentially I would be paying almost what I do for two rolls shipped of 25 pounds for only three rolls of 10 pounds. So it’s double. Because it wouldn’t even be as much as the two rolls of 25 pounds, wouldn’t even add up to the three rules of 10 from Corbin. It’s just the best deal out there, that I found I don’t think grotto medals is the selling it cheaper than that on a small scale. If you’re buying less than 700 pounds I don’t think they’re gonna do any better.
Also, they say to use 30 weight motor oil to lubricate the push rod, but I have been using 75W - 90 Amsoil severe gear differential oil that I use on my truck for differentials, and as the consistency is also much thicker it lubricates it fantastic.
Good video. Very educational.
Thank you very much
Thank you, I actually got two bottles of Corbin’s lube, and I also got one of imperial extremely high lubricity for case forming and full length resizing that will not stick in case or die, that’s right from the label. They both work fantastic, but honestly the bullet lube worked better than anything on the hollow point because it’s much more thick consistency made it adhere to the pin, and makes it much easier to remove the slugs after you press them. The others do as well, but not as well as the bullet lube.
Hello Christopher, I will be receiving my Pressslug press and die set very soon and pardon me for asking a question concerning to slug after being made. I know most slugs have several types of bottoms - example cup base , flat base etc.. was wondering what type of bottom does the dies create? Thanks.
@@anthonyferguson1644 hey Anthony, don’t excuse yourself, you can ask me anything you want. I’m just another guy. It makes a cup base on 2nd Gen. 1st made flat or depressed, but the 2nd Gen. are by FAR the most accurate
Hey Christopher, Thanks for responding to the reply and yes I'm learning about making ammo for air rifles. A little about my self- I'm a Military Vet and spent a number of years defending or freedoms and part of that is of course it the freedom to bare arms. I strongly believing in having the right to defend one self and family as well as hunt, which I do. Now at my ripe old age I'm having a ball with my air rifles and own several from AirForce to Umarex.
Enough about me , The main reason I wanted to contact you was I was curious about the finished product of the slug because there was no information when I ordered the press, My press should be here Tuesday and along with the press one die comes with it and I opted for the 30 caliber so I can feed my Umarex Gauntlet 2 .30 cal. As time goes on I will order another die for .357 for my AEA Challenger Pro.
I'm sorry keep getting off topic... the slug base , there is no information as what type of base it creates if any at all. Again thank you for your input and hope all goes well for you and your family.
@@anthonyferguson1644 so they had two generations generation, one and generation two of the dies, the first generation had a flat base and an indented base, not concave, but abruptly indented, now, the second generation has a concave base and also the slug is shaped differently, which I’ve machined my own dies to make full metal jacket shaped rounds like a 556, I did my own little bit of time in the Marines, so I’m sure you know what I mean, I’ve machine to the part that makes the hollowpoint to be reversed. It was very hard on the 22 caliber I ordered everything from 22 to 35, the AEA guns are really not the greatest guns. I have two of them myself, the terminator 357, and the bull pup 30 caliber challenger, 32 inch barrel, which is a beast, but does not even come close to comparing to the western rattler, that thing shoots 180 grain slugs over 900 ft./s! 130 green slugs over 1000, 150 grand right around 1000. I have a couple other videos where you can see close-ups of the slugs so you can see what they look like. I don’t know if I showed the back but they are concave on the newer generation.
@@anthonyferguson1644 Sorry for the late reply. I’m actually on vacation in Aruba right now.
I didn’t have the bad customer service experience, but yes he’s definitely a huge asset to the company.
Right,that explains why. Love ya stuff anyway. I'm keen to press my own for my Maverick.
Nice to hear that you took some vacation. Like you I've been around firearms for most of my life including the time spent in the Gulf war. Yes I'm a veteran. Needless to say I've been around firearms all my life and years ago use to shoot nearly every weekend but the prices of ammo have gone up soooo much I wanted to find another way to continue my shooting. Answer
was the air gun. I live in the town or city limits and shooting a firearm will put me under the jail so again air guns fit the bill.
I'm saving money for the equipment for the scraps after making slugs that I can nearly eliminate the waste to be used over into creating slugs for my use. I'm about to place an order for a Lee blank form and take to my local machine shop have them bore the size i want for my 30 cal for lead cores to be used with the press.
So I have the equipment to do that, I have a professional lathe, and milling table, drill press, all that fun shit along with plasma, cutter, multiprocess, welder, serious workshop. If you need something you can let me know I’ll be happy to help you out. Let me know if anyone is interested in the AEA guns, but I’d be happy to try to make that stuff for you. I’ve already made parts to modify my own. But get your press first and see how you like it, I’m sure you will love it I love mine, I built a huge bullet trap, 6 feet high and 8 feet wide. I bought a smelting pot to burn off all the crap from targets, then I use a lee melting pot with the spout that pours right into the molds, and it makes it nice and easy
So, as far as shooting targets, I never waste any lead. I bought a bunch of 25 pound rolls of lead wire, and I had a shit load of chimney lead for roofing, I started making bullets, and I have not run out of the lead I have for crucibles Full of lead. Probably 30 pounds each right now that needs to be casted and a full 20 pound pot along with about six rolls in different calibers. I won’t be running out of ammo anytime soon. Not to mention I have about 50 drawers, full of different calibers and weights already pressed as you’ll see in some of my videos.
I just reread your post I’m sure you must have gotten the mold by now, but if not, I’ve been making some. Let me know
I have got all my dies for the press and currently doing well @@Cjsairgunscarsandmachining
Chris, thanks for the info.
Anytime!
If there’s anything I can do to help, just let me know. Did you get a press yet? I can hook you up with the guy who helped me with mine
You are rite if you need anything to do with Edgun buy it from them! I have bought several items from them. The shipping to USA 🇺🇸 is faster than you can get it from the USA dealer! They are great folks for sure. Keep the great videos coming I been looking at this same press setup from them. 👍
I said, go for it, Brother, it’s amazing the amount of money you can save on ammunition if you shoot a lot. I do shoot a lot, especially during the competition season and literally you’re getting over 4000 slugs for the price of two tins of slugs! It’s unbelievable the savings. It is time-consuming, and a big investment upfront, but the amount of money you save will pay for itself, without question, mine already has
Couple of questions. For your.357 rattler are you using the 9.09 mm die? Also it shows 80.45gr to 126.73gr. Is 126.73 biggest you can make with this die? Thanks
@@themulesheriff3009 That's not true, I have made them up to 200 grain, and mine is a little smaller, I don't know off the top of my head, but it's a little smaller. There are a lot of adjustments, plus I have machined some of my own parts.
@@Cjsairgunscarsandmachining they make 8.92mm ( .3512 ) and 9.09mm ( .358 I see it now listed on preorder at air gun tactical for $1484.96 shipped! With one die set!! That’s a good deal So your die is the 8.92mm ? I need to make sure I get the right size for my rattler .357 that I have ordered. Can you look 👀 on your die to make sure of the size? Thanks 🙏
Thanks for posting.
Nice
I looked at this press and wind it up going with the Corbin. At least as of right now you can do a lot more with Corbin’s. It’s still is a sweet looking press though. I make normal and hybrid style with mine. Mine shoot amazing as well.
Only reason I would not go with Corbin is because it’s an 18 month wait!
I got mine in three days!
Take a look at the accuracy that I got with mine! 525 calibers inside half an inch at 50 yards
Hi Chris, as a person who worked in the lead crystal industry for over thirty years, I should warrn you about handling lead. You really should be wearing disposable vynil gloves when handling lead. Just looking at your hands and fingers made me a little worried. Lead can easily enter your body. The problem is that once in your body, it can't get out and always settles in your bones. Old lead workers when X-rayed, would look like their bones had been peppered with a shotgun! Once in there, it's there for good and weakens the bones. That's why Lead (Pb) is classed as toxic. Wear disposable gloves and you will be fine. Never ever eat food with your hands if you've been handling lead without washing them. If melting down lead, always wear a good quality mask and have good extraction (if doing it indoors). You can buy a box of disposable latex or vynil gloves for a few dollars. I really enjoyed your video because I've decided to get one of these presses. If a lead ban comes in, you won't be able to buy pellets or slugs so this will be the only way to go as I don't think anyone has come up with a good lead free alternative yet. I'm in England in the UK and it's already started here.
Hey, I really appreciate your concern, but my hands are actually dirtier when I start, then you would expect I’m always working on my machinery and vehicles, also, I am an EPA lead safe, certified firm, I do lead removal for a living. So I am extremely familiar with lead levels and are the effects of the contaminants of lead. Honestly, thank you so much for expressing your concern. It’s genuinely appreciated, but my hands are not getting all that dirty from the lead and I wash them right after, the only reason I don’t use gloves is because they make it so much more difficult to handle things that small. I don’t put it in my mouth or anywhere open and I wash my hands thoroughly as soon as I’m done. But honestly, please don’t think I’m being sarcastic. I genuinely appreciate the concern.
Should have rephrased it as loads of lead, more than 1.5 KG/day,judging by his workshop. Then made a link with sperm death, bone fragility etc.
@@mikesmith8313 No worries, I genuinely appreciated the concern, but I'm aware of al that, and more importantly my hands are always dirty, I do a lot of metal work, machining, and automotive.
@@mikesmith8313 In my next video I'm going to put an enlarged copy of my EPA CERTIFICATION FOR LEAD!!!! In case you missed that. Do you have one? So, mind your business. That is one small room in my 10,000 sqft workshop just for guns, dude, you don't know me, I expressed my appreciation for the concern, but my hands ARE NOT ONLY DIRTY FROM LEAD!! I own a property management company, and do HVAC, all my own vehicle, and heavy equipment maintenance, auto body, I can do, and have done everything my guys do, so my hands are always dirty. If you asked the question instead of ASSuming I'd happily answer. It's grease from working on my challenger, and in the previous days my cummins and my duramax dinali, and my kubota 250hr service before that. Anything else?
@@mikesmith8313 Is that really what you got from my response? Or do you just like being a smart ass?
Can you try and make some tin slugs!? I would love to see how that works? I know it’s kind of expensive but a lead free option for me would be amazing for hunting !
Im getting one next month gkad i found your channel
Corbin Swage Lube works amazing!!! BUT there is a guy here on the tube who shows how to make the lube that Corbin uses.
Chris , You have made me feel like a donkey, I never thought to use some spacers in experimenting with the press . I understand the principal and knowing that is awesome. I'm currently made slugs that weight 56.5 gr and that is alright but not my preferred weight, so a trip to my local Lowe's will allow me to make the necessary adjustments to achieve my desired weight grain.
Now looking for the other parts needed to reclaim the lead waste instead of tossing it out as rubbish. The hot pot 2 is in price range and also have my eyes on a Lee blank 6 cavity form. The blank form and hot pot will allow me to complete the reclaimed lead from waste and mistakes etc.
Sorry, you’re not a donkey
Hey man, I don’t know if I was doing this back when we messaged, but I’ve been making molds ever since I got a CNC machine six or eight months ago. I’ve made several of my own, and I started making suppressors, both machined and in 3-D printed material, and honestly, the 3-D, printed carbon fiber materials absorb more sound than the CNC machine aluminum, it’s kind of astounding! Anyway, I’m making mold myself so you can put a custom order in on my site and I can make it for you whatever diameter you want whatever length, etc.
Matias is the one from Wolfiek who contacts you after you've been abused by customer service. He is a great asset to Wolfiek.
Yo please make some 357 tin slugs for your rattler! I want to see how those work so badly
I have the Challenger pro 30 cal I also have a challenger 30cal Bullpup 32" barrel Yes I think you misunderstood me If you remove the barrel there are 6 Holes around the barrel That pushes Behind the pallet Out of the barrel I drilled out those 2 drill bit sizes bigger To increase the air flow It is not like the fx Watch I believe only has one hole I think on your other video you Ordered one with a bigger hole to increase the air flow I hope you understand but It might have been my fault not explaining right Anyway I love what you did with your Fx A lot of power and And very accurate Also shooting heavier slugs
Oh, I totally understand what you’re saying now, yes, I consider doing that to my transfer port as well that’s what that’s called. It’s a transfer port, but huma made one specifically for this gun, so I ordered them for each caliber they were pretty cheap. Like 30 bucks each, so I figured, instead of drilling the holes bigger I would have used my CNC and just made them longer on each side of the piece that keeps the slug from falling in, I’m sure it would have worked great, but they had them premade, so I just ordered them. But that’s the right idea. That’s what I would have done if I didn’t want to spend the money. I just spent so much on that gun, it was worth it to get the right parts. If it was a cheaper gun, I would have done the same thing. But I’m sure that made a big difference. That gun I actually made a video I have to finish it and post it, but I got almost 1300 ft./s with a 19 grain pellet, and 1170 ft./s with a 28 grain slug, with my 50 grain slugs I’m getting about 1000 in the video you will hear the sound barrier crack because the gun is quiet, then you hear that big loud crack of the sound barrier breaking. I’ll put it up soon.
I ordered a Daystate Delta wolf, that’s the next gun I’m going to be reviewing. And I buy these guns with my own money, no one is giving me promotional items or anything to review for them, it’s my honest opinion on guns I’m buying with my own money.
Nice and informative, but the need for a better clearer camera is a must if you are thinking for your next video if you plan on making more videos, and hope you do. But all in all great job...
Looks like you are on the way to being a great UA-camr ! Keep up the good work..
Thank you very much I appreciate the compliment. Genuinely, I use my iPhone 14 Pro, it has pretty high resolution, but I do have a DSLR camera, but don’t intend on using it for videos. I have the microphone that hooks up to the iPhone, and when I use the rear cameras, they are 48 megapixel. Most of the cameras on the market are not any better. The only difference is that I’m not zooming in on certain things which another person mentioned then I’m going to start doing so you guys can see closer, but as far as the camera itself I’m probably not going to change it. I don’t benefit in any way monetarily for doing this. I’ve benefit because I get to spread the word and show people how to do things and help other people. I’ve made the investment for the microphones and some other things to be able to do the videos just so I can do that. That’s more valuable to me than any amount they could pay me anyway. And I don’t get enough viewers for them to offer me anything and if someday I do, I would consider spending any money I made benefiting from doing these videos on doing them better, but in the meantime, I’m happy spending my own money on the things I have and more when it comes up, but a camera specifically for this, it just makes it harder to edit the video in the software, and it makes more work, I like to just take the video and upload it. But I am going to do some more close-ups, so you guys can see things more clearly, and hopefully everyone noticed the voice improvements with the microphone I bought, but thank you very much for the compliment, it’s guys like you that appreciate the information and the thought behind showing everyone how to do these things that keeps me doing this
Hello @Christoper loved the video and talking about the slug press.. Is there any possible way I could buy like 100-200 45gr .30 slugs from you to see if My FX impact will shoot them good? I'd hate to spend over $2k buying all the stuff and My gun hate the slugs! Thanx Kirk
Hey Rollin. Yeah sure I could make you a couple hundred 45 grain, but I have an FX impact and I have the 20 to 25 and 30 caliber set ups, and it shoots heavier than 45 grain. I can shoot up to 69 grain at pretty high velocity’s, I’m not sure what you’ve done to your impact if you have modified it at all, but I have modified mine heavily. All the internals, as well as external modifications, but the power modifications are what makes the difference when shooting, heavy, slugs like that. Even in 25 caliber, I shoot 50 grain in that, my crown, and my Pantera. The other two are only 25 caliber at the moment, but 25 caliber up to 56 grain generally 50 grain. Anyway, sure I’d be happy to you can email me. CJ110109@gmail.com.
Compared to the latest gen 2 slugs from most manufacturers, it the presslug stil worth it for accuracy?
Totally!!!! Still better! Not to mention $82 for a roll of lead wire to make average 4,000 slugs! That’s like 2 tins! Yah. It’s worth it.
Hi, I bought an additional Die and it arrived the same as the one I had, they come out very pointy, any suggestions, thanks
Sorry to hear that, you should contact them the person I usually talk to his name is Matthias, he’s been great, I’ve got an edgun Leshiy from them, he was my point of contact for that as well, he’s always been very helpful. Give him a call and let him know what you ended up with and what you were looking for. I’m sure they will make it right
Well done, I would like to get all the information to get all the necessary for product's to make my own slugs, let me know.
Oh nice, yah was a great idea for me. You spend a lot upfront, but never buy slugs again! Talk to Mathias at info@edgun.com.
He was awesome! Really the type of people you want to do business with!
He Chris- thanks a ton. Can you quickly share what variables one can customize with the presslug. It looks like the Ogive is set, but you can customize the depth, hollow point, and flat or dish end? Can the ogive be adjusted??? I have an FX M3 Impact .25 caliber. Just wondering if there are enough variables to customize to really dial in the accuarcy?
but no links on the hardware ? :(
I didn't put any up, but if there's something you need please let me know and I'll reply with it
Hi Chris. Greetings from Portugal.
It is a good review, and im thinking to buy presslug.
Wich caliber is the new ones, with a rounder point?
Hello! Yes, the point is rounder, and the slug is more oblong, they are so effective. Incredibly accurate! Contact Matthias at Wolfiek group, or edgun. They were awesome with me.
Chris are you using lead wire form Corbin? From what i read from Presslug they recommend 6mm lead wire for 25 slugs and 7mm for 30, Is this what you use? Where do you recommend purchasing lead wire from and what sizes for 25 and 30 cal slugs? Tnx
The sizes don’t have to be exactly what those recommendations are, it can be a little more narrow, it just can’t be wider than the hole in the cylinder of the die. When you use the press, it will smash it down and push the access through the holes. So you could even use 25 caliber wire for 30 caliber slugs, but not much further than that. Honestly, Corbin has been the best to deal with as his prices are really reasonable but the shipping kills you. You just have to order a lot at once. The shipping is a whole Nother roll so order at least three or four that’s what I do, but I also order 5 pound rolls with no shipping charges for 33 bucks from Amazon for now from optics planet, which is the seller on Amazon
Hey Chris, Just got my Presslug press set up and would like to ask you a question concerning your 30 cal slug set up. I've got my press as far down as I could and placed my slug core into the press and was getting mainly 55.5 gr and was wondering what are you getting grain weight? I'm hoping to have it set at it's lowest grain setting possible . According to the web site they claim .30 CALIBER DIE: MINIMUM 51.79 GRAINS TO MAXIMUM 82.36 GRAINS.
Also I have the second generation of dies because it create a dish base instead of a flat base. Any suggestions would be great to hear. thanks.
OK cool I’m glad you got the second generation because the shape of the slug is much different as well, much better in the second generation. They’re much more accurate, you can definitely get more space down you use a spacer on the threads when you screw the top part in, you can use the washer.
Also, the whole top part can screw down. Not just the part that adjusts through the whole adjustment piece down but I don’t change mine because I have all the settings for the grain weights that I make
Hello Chriss.
I have bought the presslug with the first generation of dies which is more conical. Can you confirm that I can find that gen 2 dies in .22 and .25 at Edgun shop.
I already pulled the trigger for the one in .22 but want to know is the .25 cal one is also like the one you showed on the left.
Amazing press so far brilliant working. Cheers
Hello, yes, I actually bought all four sizes, and the 25 caliber, 22 caliber, 30 caliber, and 357 bulb work perfectly. I would highly recommend any size that you would use.
I can add a close-up photo of the old ones and the new ones. The new ones I can tell you for certain are much more accurate, the old ones I would compare to a pointed slug on a 556 round only hollow pointed, the newer ones I would compare to a 9 mm handgun slug only hollow, pointed, and whatever size you want. More rounded, the old ones were more pointed. It’s much better because you get a higher Grain weight just by the shape. And if you use the flat back, you will get even more, but the slight concave back is actually very nice. It catches the air very nicely. It’s better than the indented ones they used to have, and the ones that were flat. I’ll add a photo of them next to each other.
En donde se puede comprar esa prensa y los dados
Interesting setup! How's the accuracy with those slugs?
The accuracy is fantastic, take a look at some of my videos. Even the recent one with the western rattler shooting 357 slugs, I press those in that press. You can make them as big as you want. I’ve gotten as high as almost 200 g with that gun
Hi Christopher
I have two questions
1 In .edgun they already have the new version of Die for Presslug because I bought my press on June 13, 2022 and I have the putiaguada version and I don't like it very much. I prefer the most recent version
2 if the calibers 177,22,25,30 already have the new version
So you probably have the second version which is what I have, I already purchased mine. I don’t remember exactly what month, I can find out, but it was around the same time. It wasn’t much before that. I would have to look to be honest with you I don’t remember exactly, but I don’t do 177, smallest I do is 22, but I go up to 35. They actually have a whole Nother new set out but the ones that I got the second series were perfect for my FX guns, and I bought a 35 caliber edgun Leshiy, and turned it into a 25 caliber, the only thing is those alpha precision barrels aren’t my favorite the Lothar Walther barrels would have been great, but they are choked. So I am going to make my own barrel for it with an STX liner and a heavy slug liner. I’m going to cut down an extra 700 mm that I have to a 450 mm which is what the gun is.
Also, so they came up with different sizes that are different diameters within thousands of an inch, they have a few thousand 7 inch in each direction. If you have the second generation ones like mine, I think they are perfect for any STX barrel, and really, my Weston rattler is shooting 200 grain 357 slugs at 1000 ft./s! It’s fucking unreal! And dead accurate! I shot a crow at 167 yards, and it exploded. So I actually bought mine of January 2023, I just checked the emails with Spain, so they literally came out with those as I bought it. I got the first generation, and they changed them for me for the second generation, after I had already gotten them, and I added the 357 at the end because at first I ordered 20 to 25 and 30, so if you haven’t gotten new ones since then, those weren’t out back Then, but now there are those new ones that I have that are less pointed, and they have a concaved back
But now they are also making them in all different diameters above and below standard 218, standard 2496, so on
@@Cjsairgunscarsandmachining
Thank you for answering, I really appreciate that you take your time Christopher
1 a question where I sew a larger diameter like the 218 for a TJ barrel, which is the diameter you like if you have a link?
thank you so much
@@PCLinuxOSX 2-0.2196, and that works perfectly in any STX barrel. Whether it’s the heavy slug liner, or the regular, STX, they shoot perfectly out of those guns. Unbelievable accuracy, it broke my heart. I’m on my way to the pyramid cup right now, and I had to turn down my FX impact from 1050 to 1070 ft./s with 42 grain slugs in 22 caliber all the way down to 22 caliber with grain pellets. Before I made any adjustments, it shot 1430 ft./s, the HM 1000 XRAW did not shoot that fast. It was a little over 1000, but it was even harder to get it down that far.
Yo necesito comprar una prensa y dados calibre 22 y 30
I have purchased many slugs I have Only found a few that should OK But not great I would like to try some of your slugs Is that possible to buy Some slugs from you So I maybe you can get that same set up I haven't Is scene accuracy like that In the grouping you showed
I have actually been considering selling custom size hand pressed slugs, but haven’t gotten there yet as I have 2 other businesses. This is more of a passion. But sure, you could be my first customer. But first, what gun? Did you see my accuracy modifications to my M3?
Hey christopher Yes I watched your videos last night on Is your modifications To increase your velocities to shoot slugs I did the same thing On my AEA 25 Cal varmint I don't have an M3 That would be Nice I did my own modifications This is what I did I'm mine I drilled out the airports around my barrel I put a lighter valve spring I Added a regulator And finally had to add a bigger bottle because I was losing too much air Too fast With higher velocities I put a 700 cc air tank Carbon fiber I wish I can show you my Chronograph Numbers But I can shoot a 38.9g nsa at 1004fps
Hey, you can call me, Chris, and yeah, the impact is an awesome gun. It’s very customizable, I have an ATA terminator 357, and an AEA challenger 30 Cal. I think I’m going to sell the terminator because I bought the western rattler, and it pales in comparison. With the FX impact and the modifications I’ve done I can get 70 grain 30 caliber slugs over 1050 ft./s, it’s not so much the speed in 25 caliber I shoot 50 grain slugs, and I can get them supersonic. It’s a really powerful gun and I put a 700 cc bottle on that as well, but it also has the Plenum full of air in the back. The whole design of that gun is really impeccable. Not much else out there like it. It kind of changed the whole air gun industry. But it sounds like you did a lot of modifications to your AEA, I am not sure what you mean when you say drilled holes in the barrel that doesn’t sound like a good idea, but I must be misunderstanding you. You want the air to stay behind the slug, right up until the end of the barrel. If it goes any more than at the end of the barrel, it will throw off accuracy, any less, and you will lose velocity.
En donde puedo comprar esa prensa
Secondly, I want to know if for the gen 2bthe hollowpoint pin is longer. That was my complain for the 1stvgen dye.
Thanks
Dear Franck on the 2nd Generation of the slugs I have changed the shape of the slug and also length of the hollow point to keep centre of gravity very close to center of pressure during whole flight of the slug. The 2nd Generation I have designed for speeds 240-315m/s which 787-1033fps and the shape accommodates the wind tunnel and twist rate, average air humidity aerodynamics.
Simply said, Hollow point is longer
$ 1600.00 you must be out of your mind to buy this thing!!!!!!!!
Actually, dude, it was 2000, and another 900 in additional dies, and it was well worth it because you know something I pay $81 for a roll of lead wire, and that produces 3800 heavyweight slugs, how many do you get for $100 maybe three tins of 150, so you get 450 for $100 I get almost 4000 for $82! Who do you think is making out in the long run? If you were any kind of businessman or had a brain, you would be able to do the math and figure out that you were saving a tremendous amount of money instead of making some snide comment about how stupid I am for spending $1600 not knowing that if you could afford it, you would buy it too stop being resentful at other people who have money just because you don’t! You should be happy for other people who succeed. I am! Even if they succeeded more than I ever have or ever will, I’m still tremendously happy for them, because I like to see other people do well. I hate to see other people try to bring people down who do well, people like you that make these snide comments about topics that you have no clue about! Have you even looked into the product, have you even done any kind of research that would make you anyone to even make a comment like that? Because I’m willing to bet you haven’t done any research at all. You don’t even know the actual price! You’ve made that clear in your comment! You do not know how much the actual thing cost. You don’t know the benefits of doing it that way, but yet you’re still making comments about something you know nothing about! Why don’t you know your role, and make comments when you actually know what you’re talking about because you obviously don’t! So if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all do us all a favor
What size wire do you use for 22 caliber and where do you get it?
Hello, I have been getting wire from Amazon and the diameter of that wire was 3/16 of an inch, but recently found out that NSA slugs has been making their own lead wire, and selling what they can’t use. I recently ordered a 25 pound roll from them for 80 something dollars, cheaper than I had gotten it anywhere else before. They are always very reasonable on their slugs, and on the lead, so I would highly recommend them and you can get It, any size that slightly smaller than what you intend on using it for, as long as it will fit in the die and isn’t tremendously smaller, the day will press it to size
@@Cjsairgunscarsandmachining thank you
@@crypto_creep8222 you are ever so welcome, the whole reason I do these videos is to help people out who don’t know what to do or how to do it, or may not know some of the tricks you can find out and I don’t know everything but the stuff that I do know I’m happy to share, and have other people benefit from it. That is the cheapest place that you will find, and I have tried everywhere I have tried big commercial places that make it and they are tremendously expensive, I’ve tried Amazon eBay all of it. NSA is the most reasonable including shipping for a 25 pound roll at 80 something dollars even Corbin is a 10 pound roll for like $60 plus shipping, basically 2 1/2 times the amount you would get from Corbin
The best practice for led wire is to 0.9 multiplied by caliber, simply said it should not be too small and it needs to comfortably fit in to main die body, 2nd generation of presslug slug and dies are tested within CZ, LW standard and polygonal barrels and FX Standard and Heavy liners. For example our shape of the slugs for .22" Cal, hits the target most precisely with slug diameter exactly 0.2161 inch in all these barrels mentioned above. Did you know that FX liners have very aggressive choke at the end? .22cal slug shape is after going through choke completely re-formated and the diameter of slug is changed to 0.2059 inch and that completely change the whole balance of the slug and aerodynamics? That is why the shape of the slug is little-bit special. In normal barrels without choke and in FX barrel after slug shape is changed by choke it still keeps the aerodynamics. FX Superior standard barrel is suitable to shoot presslug .22cal. slugs between 23-27grains and everything heavier up to 34grains use Superior heavy liner, you can go up to 40grains but then you need faster twist rate 1/14". I do believe that FX have FX Superior liner (shouldn't be it called SuperHeavy :-)?) in 700mm length that is used by Mat Dubber to shoot those heavy and very long slugs
@@michalkuhn3078 so do you have a presslug? I don’t think you do because if you did, then you would know that they make slugs precisely 0.2169, and they fire incredibly accurately. Slug liners are not choked. Maybe the standard light liners, I have a choke, but slug liners, deliberately do not. That’s why they are called slug liners.
At almost 2k you can keep it
With the amount I spent on slugs combined with the accuracy of these was well worth it to me, but then again I can afford it. Was over 3k with all the dies. If you’re financial situation doesn’t permit that’s understandable.
Gee mate, I need you to speak up. I am very interested in your tutorial but can hardly hear you.
This was a long time ago, buddy, before I ever got wireless microphones and what not. Unfortunately, I can’t go back to that time, but I have definitely upgraded since.
$2300.00 USD plus dies. I'll pass.
Let me ask you this, how much do you think you’ve spent on slugs? If you don’t buy enough, then it’s probably not worth it, but if you shoot a lot I promise you it is. 25 pounds of lead which is 185,000 grains is 80 bucks, you can make 3,854 48, grain 25 caliber slugs. Or you can buy four tins of slugs that will be like 28-32 grain. Makes sense now?
@@Cjsairgunscarsandmachining I definitely see your point. This is great.
I’m curious, why? Are you worried about the health of the animal that you’re going to kill? Lol but seriously, if you do it properly it’s not any harm to you. Just wash your hands before and after, and when melting do it with proper ventilation, I’m EPA certified for lead removal, I know about this stuff. If you do things properly, it’s not causing you any harm. Unless you don’t have a way to do it with proper ventilation, or to melt it at all, but even lead wire, if you cut it and press it and wash your hands after thoroughly, or wear gloves, it’s not causing any harm to you. Is there another reason why? I actually add a small amount of tin to the pot when I’m melting the lead, because it will cast better but a very very small amount like one percent if that
The problem is you cannot make subcalibers as they do not offer slug dies in subcalibers. This is pretty pathetic because you buy an expensive equipment to make custom slugs and you cannot make custom slugs which have the dimensions which your barrel like.
That’s not true at all, I’m not sure why you think that? My gun actually shoots the slugs that that Press makes with the dye that I bought from them better than it has shot any other slug, and that’s the FX impact, but if you needed a different thousandth of an inch, you can use a different die in that press. The dies are like 50 bucks on Amazon
@@Cjsairgunscarsandmachining where can I get the dies in 0.01mm increments?
@@MasonStormSunny search it on Amazon, I’ve seen dyes on there for literally like 50 or $60, I never ordered any because the sizes are working well for what I need them for, also the 357 works perfect in the rattler. I get great accuracy, but if you need a different size, search that size.
@@MasonStormSunny also you would be surprised when it’s 100% lead or 95 to 99% because I had a little tin when I cast, the lead expands a little bit when the pressure hits it. So, if you needed it bigger, you would probably be all set. True lead without additives like in mass production expands pretty easily. That’s how you’re able to press them.
Hi, I am always testing the slugs for majority of the barrels that you can find on the market (CZ, LW standard riffling, LW Polygonal riffling, Alfa barrels and FX Superior standard and heavy liners.
Remember the diameter of the slugs is of course important bore and groove diameter of the barrels, but these diameters are very similar across barrel industry. what is the most important is at least from my perspective as I am behind the presslug slugs shape development is what friction I get in the barrel and how is changed the shape of the slug at the bore end (FX Choke or non-choked barrels) and that shape and balance of the slug need to be working well within certain speeds and still have good aerodynamics. So what I wanted to say, the diameter of the slug is not dependant only on barrel but also on the shape of the slug itself.
I have the Corbin swage press but I was have a problem getting the lead wire but I found that I can get It from ROTOMETALS. They make the right die size for. 22 caliber for the 0.210 Corbin swage press. Please pass it along. And if you order enough it's free shipping.
Yeah, I actually spoke to them myself, but their text pricing is not competitive compared to NSA, the slug company. NSA makes lead wire now, and they sell what they don’t use for their slugs. They sell 25 pounds of whatever diameter there’s about 10 different diameters that they make, I get the 0.200 for 22, and it works fine within that small of a difference. It’s not going to really be noticeable when you’re pressing it, but I don’t think anyone else sells 25 pounds for $82 including shipping. I got 50 pounds for 165 bucks a few times now. Just look up NSA lead wire, it’s very easy to find and it’s the cheapest anywhere. I’ve checked with multiple companies like Roto metals, and I bought from Amazon I ordered from Corbin, Corbin is charging 60 something dollars plus shipping for 10 pounds! So essentially I would be paying almost what I do for two rolls shipped of 25 pounds for only three rolls of 10 pounds. So it’s double. Because it wouldn’t even be as much as the two rolls of 25 pounds, wouldn’t even add up to the three rules of 10 from Corbin. It’s just the best deal out there, that I found I don’t think grotto medals is the selling it cheaper than that on a small scale. If you’re buying less than 700 pounds I don’t think they’re gonna do any better.
@@Cjsairgunscarsandmachining Thank you so much. This great.
@@michaelmoretz7592 Anytime, Happy to help!