Hey, editor here! Just to clarify, I was using mods to change the chatacter's costumes but I could only revert them to costume 1 in the replays, so the colors were the same but not the costume. The mod I used has the option to overwrite menu selections (that's how you get x characters' models using y movesets), but even though I disabled that option, the mod's selections would change the characters' portraits. Doesn't really affect anything about the video but I saw a couple of confused comments, even Brian_F noticed but I left it out. (Just didn't want them guessing based on the costumes, would've been a lot easier and they weren't relevant to the point of the video)
well your mod fails on all accounts cause if you couldnt change color then they knew instantly it wasnt punk cause punk always uses pink for all characters and outfits.
the Age of Empires 2 community has a thing called Hidden Cup, where everyone that qualifies plays under pseudonyms and nobody, including the commentators and the other competitors knows who is who and has to guess at the end of the tournament. It's a lot of fun and does a good job at showing off how unique playstyles can be even in a game where everyone is using the same pool of civilizations. It would be a lot of work but I'd watch something like that for SF6. Also I'm pretty sure a test like this would be way easier in an anime fighter, not just because there's more playstyle variety but also because there's like 1/5th as many good players to guess from.
I know we say sf4 had more player expression but i believe that can be because online was less of an echo chamber back then so more pro was left to their own tech. All info is shared now and as soon as a game drops is a mad dash to solve the meta
It's also super easy to say something like "you can tell who is playing by how they play" but how many people actually did blind tests like this? The answer is no one. I think the only game that I could tell would be Melee and even that only a few players who I have seen a lot and have distinctive styles. But don't forget, it's very easy for me to say this without having to prove anything.
@@no_nameyouknow not to sound super cocky but if they did this same video for sf4 itll be 100× easier than sf6 hell im pretty sure i can call all players in sf4 the playstyle and freedom and CHARACTER loyalists made it easy
@@no_nameyouknow Uh, not talking about Street Fighter here but you can do that quite easily with the older Guilty Gear games. It is not something a few oldheads came up with to underline "old game good, new game bad" but it is legitemately a thing. A big part of it was the bigger and way less linear moveset which did indeed let people come up with different solutions for different situations. Not only that but the sole act of hit confirming and routing was also more nuanced in older GG games and was another factor which would help you differentiate players. I myself didn't play much GG back then but even I could tell players like Lox, Rozari, Teresa and Jajamaru apart even though I didn't know much about the game. They even used different moves in neutral, combo routes, conversions etc. It's actually wild. I can imagine similar things with older SF games but I have way less experience with older SF footage so I can't vouch for that 100%.
1. Shine blind 2. Hikaru blind 3. JB blind 4. Hurricane? Give me multiple choice - Okay, JWong I guess 5. I wanted to say CrackTatarian, give me multiple choice again - Booce I guess 6. I need multiple choice. Think it's not Neph or Uma and I can't even name another Juri. Alright I lock in JAK 7. Angrybird forced to blind, would've wanted multiple choice though. 8. DCQ blind - wouldve taken strider on multiple choice but I locked in 9. Higuchi? Lexx? I'll go Lexx blind 10. Multiple choice - I don't fucking know, Kakeru I guess Final score: 5. Dang
Great content. With some refinement you could have a real series here. I liked round 10 when you knew which 4 it could be during the watch more than the earlier rounds where you knew afterwards.
I had thought about this exact concept, it's really awesome that a noteworthy player actually took the time to put something this comprehensive together. My hope was that they could also view old SF4 matches (if they still remember playstyles) and try to identify the practitioner of those characters WITHOUT multiple choice (B/c there were fewer TOP TOP tier practioners of each character). To display the difference (if any) in individuality of different generations of Street Fighter, and if there is merit to the complaint about lack of expression. Phenomenal content!
regardless of the points the fact that you had things you were looking for for certain players kind of proves your point that people DO in fact have their own expressions on the characters.
No, because they were wrong. They may be attributing those styles or patterns to one particular player, but if it ends up actually being another player they are talking about, that expression isn’t so unique.
I almost forgot that Shine also plays Ed, which is weird considering I was literally watching stream with him playing Ed before the patch. Usually I know him for his Kimberly.
this was an awesome video! I would love more like this and get people from different games and see how people do. It is really really hard to guess who based on one match and therefore very silly and fun!
I have an amusing suggestion if you do this again. Have exactly ONE match be randos online and that always a 5th choice that you could pick. Would be funny.
There's definitely a style. Obviously you'll have optimal combos and optimal choices on things, but every player develops preferences and sometimes even dips outside of optimal patterns to hit their preferred more comfortable setups.
This is really funny. On the other hand, in Smash Melee you have pro players on ranked that randomly run into players, such as PPMD (who hasn't competed since 2015), and they say "Oh man this player reminds me a lot like PPMD's Marth" and then later they realized they were playing against PPMD. There's an entire compilation of these instances. Crazy how different the style of players' characters are in Melee vs Street Fighter.
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Tbf though there was a lot of thought put into these answers meaning that there was specific characteristics they could look for. I also immediately said daigo and recognized it as bonchan later
That second clip I was just immediately: oh that’s Hikaru vs Kobayan 😂 Edit: I think they were overthinking this. Just going off colour, and thinking who else would be in the match, if you don’t recognize both colour choices, is surprisingly effective hahaha
As an EU spectator the bison one really screamed Problem vs Hurricane Problem X will have the most solid defense you've ever seen and then at guess for game just do some insane drive rush mixup
Yo your content has been excellent lately. Great editing production value, concept, and chemistry as the subject of the video with Brian. I hope you do this again.
Sf6 is the first traditional fighter i've taken serious and I been maining Rashid since he came out and I'm very proud of myself for correctly guessing the Rashid player
Match 4 didn’t feel like punk at all glance and i only watched him playing sf5. Punk almost never miss a wiff punish and his footsies are insane. His pokes and mastering of space is very characteristic of him
I'll be honest. Seeing the thumbnail as I scroll the front page I thought I saw two diaphones in two different angles. People makes jokes but for that split second Intotally believed the memes.
I got Ed, Rashid, Ken, Juri, and Bison without looking at the options. I was unsure about the Ken one until I saw the cr. hp run under lol. For the rest, I had absolutely NO IDEA... Even after seeing the options, I couldn't even narrow it down at all lol
As an AKI player I knew that was Hikaru right from the start. I think most AKI players would be able to distinguish between Broski and Hikarus play at the very least.
lmao this was a great vid and it's funny to see that I got a better score than these two. Still a great vid and it's really tough like Brian said about how these are like ladder matches instead of being like tournament matches.
If in sf4 era we had this absolutely staggering amount of videos and tech info overflow online having every possible streamer X user (oss) UA-camr ,playing the game and train all day as a "pro player" and the game was as popular as sf6 is, then you ll had the exact same struggle to find one pro player out of this gigantic pools of people. Don't act like this is an sf6 "problem".
Awesome video, but how did I get all of them wrong. I'd love to see this for other games or even doing the SF6 one again in a different format, really fun watching the players and trying to pick apart who would do what.
Delete this
your new discord picture is fantastic now
Lmaoo
Next trash talk podcast episode diaphone confirmed
@@ilyaweas1928that would lowk be fire tho
Watching a Juri player refuse to anti air DP and not instapick JAK, time to turn in your NA card Brian
If Noah is in this we will all know instantly.
YOLO ONLINE 09ER LAG STYLE.
Noah the Grey always leaves a name card 😂
Hey, editor here!
Just to clarify, I was using mods to change the chatacter's costumes but I could only revert them to costume 1 in the replays, so the colors were the same but not the costume.
The mod I used has the option to overwrite menu selections (that's how you get x characters' models using y movesets), but even though I disabled that option, the mod's selections would change the characters' portraits.
Doesn't really affect anything about the video but I saw a couple of confused comments, even Brian_F noticed but I left it out.
(Just didn't want them guessing based on the costumes, would've been a lot easier and they weren't relevant to the point of the video)
Nice job
dude the editing on this video is so good, I love all the graphics and fake SF6 menu UI
Excellent work on this vid
well your mod fails on all accounts cause if you couldnt change color then they knew instantly it wasnt punk cause punk always uses pink for all characters and outfits.
You cooked so hard
we couldn't have asked for a better white man with a microphone duo
This eye candy duo is feeding my dopamine receptors 😂
It's good to see Broski getting out more.
Broski and sajam would complete the quartet
Yeah, seeing Broski and Sajam in this video was cool.
exactly, because if it's Bryan F & Sajam, it's just going to be just one white guy with a microphone
Now do it for other street fighters to see if it was ever easy
the Age of Empires 2 community has a thing called Hidden Cup, where everyone that qualifies plays under pseudonyms and nobody, including the commentators and the other competitors knows who is who and has to guess at the end of the tournament. It's a lot of fun and does a good job at showing off how unique playstyles can be even in a game where everyone is using the same pool of civilizations. It would be a lot of work but I'd watch something like that for SF6.
Also I'm pretty sure a test like this would be way easier in an anime fighter, not just because there's more playstyle variety but also because there's like 1/5th as many good players to guess from.
YEAHH! Hidden cup is so awesome!
that sounds super sick. idk anything about AoE but would love to see this applied to quake (champions or live, not picky lol)
finally context as to why brian has the discord juri profile
Dude talking into a mirror pretending we wouldn’t notice
I cant believe Sajam would try to pull something like this
I know we say sf4 had more player expression but i believe that can be because online was less of an echo chamber back then so more pro was left to their own tech. All info is shared now and as soon as a game drops is a mad dash to solve the meta
for me its impossible to argue that this is not the main reason even if sf6 design does have problems that lead to less expression
It's also super easy to say something like "you can tell who is playing by how they play" but how many people actually did blind tests like this? The answer is no one. I think the only game that I could tell would be Melee and even that only a few players who I have seen a lot and have distinctive styles. But don't forget, it's very easy for me to say this without having to prove anything.
@@no_nameyouknow not to sound super cocky but if they did this same video for sf4 itll be 100× easier than sf6 hell im pretty sure i can call all players in sf4 the playstyle and freedom and CHARACTER loyalists made it easy
@@no_nameyouknow Uh, not talking about Street Fighter here but you can do that quite easily with the older Guilty Gear games. It is not something a few oldheads came up with to underline "old game good, new game bad" but it is legitemately a thing.
A big part of it was the bigger and way less linear moveset which did indeed let people come up with different solutions for different situations. Not only that but the sole act of hit confirming and routing was also more nuanced in older GG games and was another factor which would help you differentiate players.
I myself didn't play much GG back then but even I could tell players like Lox, Rozari, Teresa and Jajamaru apart even though I didn't know much about the game. They even used different moves in neutral, combo routes, conversions etc. It's actually wild.
I can imagine similar things with older SF games but I have way less experience with older SF footage so I can't vouch for that 100%.
Nah yeah you're definitely right that the Online Era has done a lot to homogenize playstyles
Big props to castehappy! Their editing is insane, great job!
1. Shine blind
2. Hikaru blind
3. JB blind
4. Hurricane? Give me multiple choice - Okay, JWong I guess
5. I wanted to say CrackTatarian, give me multiple choice again - Booce I guess
6. I need multiple choice. Think it's not Neph or Uma and I can't even name another Juri. Alright I lock in JAK
7. Angrybird forced to blind, would've wanted multiple choice though.
8. DCQ blind - wouldve taken strider on multiple choice but I locked in
9. Higuchi? Lexx? I'll go Lexx blind
10. Multiple choice - I don't fucking know, Kakeru I guess
Final score: 5. Dang
LOL when the song falls off on a wrong answer caught me off guard, hilarious
Throw in Sajam and baby, you got a stew goin!
So so so so the guy who just won "Best Fighting Games Streamer" will just set up shop with these two ... COME ON
Sajam watches this SF6 more than he plays it. He’d probably be great at this game.
@@shariarrahman7562 Him?
@@oldskoolshinobi What is he funny or something?
@@shariarrahman7562 Well let's hope so
The editing on that intro sequence is clean as hell
Missed chance to call the team Briaphone
braphone
Great content. With some refinement you could have a real series here. I liked round 10 when you knew which 4 it could be during the watch more than the earlier rounds where you knew afterwards.
Now we need the USF4 version of this to complete the mythbusting
But only characters with at least 2-3 top reps
I had thought about this exact concept, it's really awesome that a noteworthy player actually took the time to put something this comprehensive together.
My hope was that they could also view old SF4 matches (if they still remember playstyles) and try to identify the practitioner of those characters WITHOUT multiple choice (B/c there were fewer TOP TOP tier practioners of each character).
To display the difference (if any) in individuality of different generations of Street Fighter, and if there is merit to the complaint about lack of expression.
Phenomenal content!
regardless of the points the fact that you had things you were looking for for certain players kind of proves your point that people DO in fact have their own expressions on the characters.
No, because they were wrong. They may be attributing those styles or patterns to one particular player, but if it ends up actually being another player they are talking about, that expression isn’t so unique.
I almost forgot that Shine also plays Ed, which is weird considering I was literally watching stream with him playing Ed before the patch. Usually I know him for his Kimberly.
Empty jump low? I’m locking in Brian F.
good video idea. I want more of this.
this was an awesome video! I would love more like this and get people from different games and see how people do. It is really really hard to guess who based on one match and therefore very silly and fun!
I have an amusing suggestion if you do this again. Have exactly ONE match be randos online and that always a 5th choice that you could pick. Would be funny.
I love this
This as a series for other games but with tournament would be fun to watch. Phidx for Tekken Lk for Strive etc
Honestly, narrowing a sea of players down to 2 is already pretty solid and shows that there is a style.
There's definitely a style.
Obviously you'll have optimal combos and optimal choices on things, but every player develops preferences and sometimes even dips outside of optimal patterns to hit their preferred more comfortable setups.
BANGER ALERT
This is really funny. On the other hand, in Smash Melee you have pro players on ranked that randomly run into players, such as PPMD (who hasn't competed since 2015), and they say "Oh man this player reminds me a lot like PPMD's Marth" and then later they realized they were playing against PPMD. There's an entire compilation of these instances. Crazy how different the style of players' characters are in Melee vs Street Fighter.
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We're not making it out of the boring gameplay loop with this one 😭
This was cool. I like this idea a lot. It would be cool if you did more.
we eating so good thank you diaphone for this banger
that juri doing the Cr. hp into fireball as an AA should’ve been the easiest “That’s JAK” in history. Only Juri that does that shit
What's great about Kazunoko is that when you see him play even just a single game you can really pick him out from the others.
I knew that Tokido one. Let’s go
They have successfully made a game where mid level and high level look the same lol
This is an incredible gameshow. I absolutely love this
I love these guys hanging out together. They're like the same dude but from different parallel universes.
This is the type of semi informative comedic content I enjoy lol
Tbf though there was a lot of thought put into these answers meaning that there was specific characteristics they could look for. I also immediately said daigo and recognized it as bonchan later
Lmaoo same. I couldnt tell who they were. But I could tell if they were old or not
@ should’ve known it was bonchan since he used to play karin and that forward mk is the same as hers
Now the brawlpro question makes all the sense of why Brian was with that Juri stuff.
This is so entertaining!
This is actually so good
Turns out people playing the same character at a high level are hard to distinguish
This is soooo good. Got 2 more than y'all, but it was darn hard! Great content.
Great video, this was a ton of fun to watch 🎉
The collab I have been waiting for
I feel like with only one game the variance is so high
That second clip I was just immediately: oh that’s Hikaru vs Kobayan 😂
Edit: I think they were overthinking this. Just going off colour, and thinking who else would be in the match, if you don’t recognize both colour choices, is surprisingly effective hahaha
Actually awesome video format.
Yessssss was looking forward to this one!!!
We need to see the runback!
Two of the most handsome guys in SF6 scene ngl
As an EU spectator the bison one really screamed Problem vs Hurricane
Problem X will have the most solid defense you've ever seen and then at guess for game just do some insane drive rush mixup
Yo your content has been excellent lately. Great editing production value, concept, and chemistry as the subject of the video with Brian. I hope you do this again.
Sf6 is the first traditional fighter i've taken serious and I been maining Rashid since he came out and I'm very proud of myself for correctly guessing the Rashid player
And then I accidentally guessed the Cammy lol
fun stuff. gotta go with your gut net time! early guesses were on point a few times
Man, this was hard to figure out. My first guesses were on the ball a lot, but then hearing you guys planted seeds of doubt. 😂
Match 4 didn’t feel like punk at all glance and i only watched him playing sf5. Punk almost never miss a wiff punish and his footsies are insane. His pokes and mastering of space is very characteristic of him
I'll be honest.
Seeing the thumbnail as I scroll the front page I thought I saw two diaphones in two different angles.
People makes jokes but for that split second Intotally believed the memes.
I got Ed, Rashid, Ken, Juri, and Bison without looking at the options. I was unsure about the Ken one until I saw the cr. hp run under lol. For the rest, I had absolutely NO IDEA... Even after seeing the options, I couldn't even narrow it down at all lol
As an AKI player I knew that was Hikaru right from the start. I think most AKI players would be able to distinguish between Broski and Hikarus play at the very least.
Would love for you to do this every year! Would love to be in the multiple choice
I knew it was JAK the moment he went for crouch hp anti air instead of a dp.
Goat moves diaphone
Instantly knew that Ken was Tokido cause of the step kick and jump after run tatsu
This is a fun idea. It would be cool to make a game show out of it with Diaphone as host. Could have commentators on and do other games like tekken.
I only got chrisg and JB. Men that was hard . But it a really fun video you should do more of this one
Great video Sajams!
Sajam and Broski collab wasn’t on my 2024 bingo
Gotta do this game with a bunch of SF commentators vs each other
Honestly the colors help me guess who it is better than the gameplay lol
JB’s rashid is very different from other rashid’s for some reason. I got him as soon as I saw him whiff the OD mixer
oh thats the lore to the Brian 3 juri feet
Doing this with Tekken 8 Dragunovs would be funny af
I gotta stop drinking so heavy. I could’ve sworn there were 2 Sajams on my screen when I clicked on the video.
lmao this was a great vid and it's funny to see that I got a better score than these two. Still a great vid and it's really tough like Brian said about how these are like ladder matches instead of being like tournament matches.
tokido loves throwin in the jinrai overhead, it was so obvious...
Just to clarify does the costume changed post match to cmake the game fair or costume is also part of the guessing process?
Point proved on first clip 😂
I knew it wasn’t daigo just because he uses low medium kick a lot. But the forward
medium kick bait is definitely daigo lol
It would be fun if you two would bet on who but can’t place on the same guy. It’ll be so much fun.
Oh btw, did you get any of the hidden song references?👀22:36
If in sf4 era we had this absolutely staggering amount of videos and tech info overflow online having every possible streamer X user (oss) UA-camr ,playing the game and train all day as a "pro player" and the game was as popular as sf6 is, then you ll had the exact same struggle to find one pro player out of this gigantic pools of people. Don't act like this is an sf6 "problem".
“UMA!!??” 😆
Finally
The Sajam vs Sajam matchup
thank you my two favorite white boys for confirming that everyone plays the same
Bro I can't tell Dia and Brian apart from each other lmao
The Jerma effect in motion
bro is playing guess the player with player cam on LOL
How?
Throw Sajam in there and see what happens
One is weeb, the other isn't and had an emo hair period
I got like 4 right. But i was def confidently wrong on a few 😂
The only one I got was Problem X - he plays extremely solid.
You guys look like brothers!
Damn, I guessed Tokido and Nuckeldu right
We need Sajam in this trivia
Que video bom, adorei a edicao
I guessed the AKI was Hikaru cus the Zangief used that cursed jump in that only Kobayan uses and Hikaru is the only Japanese AKI I know lmao
I knew who was in match 5 as soon as I saw they didn’t consistently Anti air
Awesome video, but how did I get all of them wrong. I'd love to see this for other games or even doing the SF6 one again in a different format, really fun watching the players and trying to pick apart who would do what.
I think guess the region (aka easy mode) would be interesting too
I feel like it would be easier to find out who it is when they don't play their main character.
So too be 100% honest I wasn’t sure about nuckledu but I def know he will play that style if he wants. So many other options tho 🤣