The Harmony unit for a new meta, and a Super Break enabler & exo toughness enabler at the same time a new MC is coming out... it's a really rough patch. Let me know who you wanna pull in 2.7 and beyond!
I really, really wanna pull for Sunday, but then again, 3.0 is around the corner with some banger units. I personally want to pull Mydei and Castorice!
"... with Sunday, a unit you might regret skipping." Wow thanks for fueling my anxiety for a unit I absolutely hate but may require to be pulled because he's so stupidly broken.. Tingyun, Sparkle and Bronya combined and even more broken, we DEFINITELY NEEDED that kind of bullshit. "Don't worry if you can't pull them". Oh I don't need to, the game will constantly remind me how I suck because I don't have the brand new broken harmony unit and people will point fingers like they do when you don't have Robin. I've been in that situation. Also while sunday would technically fall under the same issue I had with Robin (aka no point of getting at the time since the best unit I could pair her with was Clara, as Acheron and Firefly had their team) because the energy gain would be meaningless for most of my DPS (Acheron/Feixiao works on stacks, Firefly hardly need it), I still have to consider how Jingliu would be affected (Jingliu being my favorite unit). We also have to consider Eidolons because let's be real, Hoyo is a greedy company and will definitely give them E1/E2 that is "necessary" to use to make the unit strong. All I want is for Sunday to be "bad" because I feel like Hoyo will excessively push remembrance on us to make it op/good, and is just playing on fomo. And Sunday's rerun will probably end up on a bad spot like how Robin was. I hate Sunday.😥And Fugue definitely got the short end of what's coming.
Running 2 extremely anticipated and likely future-proof characters before 2 exciting new characters that we know nothing, and an entire new path, about is the most cruel thing I've seen Hoyo do so far.
Yeah, it's gonna be a time to pick & choose your battles hardcore for this. I know I NEED Sunday & Fugue... I wanna attempt to be ahead of the Summon/Rem Meta before 3.0. Whereas I need Fugue to bolster my Rappa comp 😞 since I don't have Ruan Mei. So my comp will end up looking like this on that end: Rappa, Hunt March, Fugue & Gallagher/Adventurine/Pela
@@ongseungwu4311I think he momentarily became an aeoen but isn’t normally an emenator. Harmony doesn’t have any individual ones apparently accordion to wiki
Yup this patch is tough but I'm sticking to my plan to pull Fugue to eventually replace HMC but definitely think about pulling for Sunday on the eventual rerun for sure 😁
Bro we gonna skip Sunday like 3 times considering the Flamechasers (or other Xianzhou Generals) are coming lmao. After Flamechasers banner's streak end, its probably time for Fate collab banner too xD Heads empty, wallet drained, sanity collapsed
I think Sunday will get his rerun pretty early just like Robin. Robin came out in 2.2 and had her first rerun in 2.5 alongside Feixiao. Sunday will most likely rerun alongside the meta defining big boi summon dps.
Same, I have more uses for Fugue personally for my Rangers since I'd only be pulling Sunday as a Bronya upgrade for my Bootsie, I'll still maybe use a ten pull around the end of his banner just in case he wants to come early and still leave me with enough jades to pull Fugue, maybe I'd do a pull or two depending on how many I have. I've been able to save up 90 pulls in just one half of this 2.6 patch after using all my savings on Rappa, so I feel confident I will be able to have enough, Plus even if I don't get him early, he'll probably come back very soon
Definitely going for Sunday. With the new remembrance path being about summons and his kit support that..I have to grab him! ✨️🙌🏻 (I'll try to E6 him in future reruns)
His eidolons are pretty meh meh, I don't recommend doing so specially since 3.0+ will have a lot of good units with a new playstyle. So, unless you have a lot of money and doesn't care about that, I would get him + his LC and then just save.
Sunday is an absolute must for me. Gotta make the General great again. Also in the distant future, I can very easily see the Fate characters having summons and I'm hard saving for those soon.
Hmmmm I can only see Rider having summons. Unless if its Shirou and Saber as a 1 Unit but seeing the trailer and how its only Archer... Yeah I only see Rider at the moment because of her NP. So Ill be rolling for Firefly because I have only started playing because of that Collaboration and She won my heart.
I have gotten every single foxian so far so I’m legally obligated to get Fugue… add in Nihility is my face unit type (so far) and Break has hard carried me and the decision is even wiser
Quick video suggestion: could you make a priority list for the free standard pull? Particulaly taking eidolons into account. Just to guide both new and old players on who is the most efficient pick.
just gonna roughly list OVERALL 1. Himeko 2. Clara 3. Bronya 4. Welt 5. Bailu 6. Gepard 7. Yanqing IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM 1. Himeko (our PF savior) 2. Bronya 3. Clara (Yunli lite for the best reasons) 4. Bailu 5. Welt 6. Gepard 7. Yanqing
I think Sunday has the best chance of aging well and staying relevant. Advance forward + Summoning/Remembrance coming soon + Energy Ult. If you had to pull for one, I think Sunday would be the best bang for you buck.
@@ToVoMo definitely. Also, even if you just have only either RM or Fugue and want to run superbreak, you'll do fine because they are that good even on their own, so grabbing Fugue even if you don't have RM is still a great idea (actually an even better idea if you don't have RM because you'll want at least one of them, if not both) unless you don't care about superbreak, in which case, for sure get Sunday.
He's basically better Bronya and she's used on a multitude of 0 cycle teams still to this day. Same for Robin, always pull for Harmony. (Except Sparkle we don't talk about her)
Or is he more like sparkle? Strong in a few comps but not universal. Note: I disagree with this take. If you told me Tingyun and Bronya got put into one unit at 1.0 my brain would explode. Heck it still kinda does.
As someone who spent "a buck😅" for E2 Acheron, and Rappa + S1 I'll definitely be getting Fugue, also because i was a Tingyun enjoyer from the very beginning, and now that she's so strong that makes me want her even more lol Loved the insight your videos give, the pros, cons and all the cals ❤
One thing to keep in mind. Sunday will most probably rerun soon, when the best remembrance DPS drops. Like Ruan Mei rerun with Firefly and Robin with Feixiao.
I say Sunday is a must pull due to his overall kit, but Fugue is needed if only you plan to play RMC. Sunday is a better RMC for sure, but idk if they can play together. Break meta won't fall, but they might have synergy with summon. Summoners probably have synergy with Fua/break/dot and more because i believe the summon meta will make the old units shine again
Going for a harmony that you know will play into the next meta is never wrong. It's probably the easier and most safe path to take. But, saving for the rerun is also okay, just that you need to keep it in mind for the spend planning during Amphoreus (where there's gonna be a lot cool units it seems).
I think I'm gonna stick to my guns and pull for Fugue, skipping Sunday. I'm sure Sunday and summons will be great... but I already have heavy investment into great break and FUA teams, I'm not in any hurry when it comes to building another. Also, I actually hadn't considered the whole "MC leaving harmony path behind" thing, so it's probably a good idea to make sure my best team isn't reliant on HMC.
I'm still deciding who to pull. But one of my acquaintances didn't pull for Ruan Mei/Robin for Break and FuA meta until their rerun, and they're doing just as well as I am, despite me pulling both characters on day one. This might suggests I should prioritize pulling for Sunday only when I have a proper team to play with, rather than forcing myself to pull for a great unit that I'm not ready to use.
I really want to see if Moze can snapshot Fugue’s buff. If he can, that would open up a pretty interesting Break/FUA hybrid team of Xueyi/Moze/Fugue/Lingsha. Where Xueyi, Moze and Lingsha can all omnibreak with their FUAs.
@@rafiathallahseniang129 “Snapshot” refers to when a character is able to retain whatever buffs are currently applied to them upon casting an ability for the ability’s whole duration regardless if the buffs expire. Moze snapshots the active buffs on him when entering his “departed state”, and retains those buffs until he exits it, it doesn’t matter how long those buffs are supposed to last or if they get removed somehow, Moze will keep them. Fugue’s omnibreak buff only applies to the most recent character she uses her skill on, it will be removed from one character if she puts it on another, but theoretically, Moze should keep the buff as long as he had it when entering the Departed state, since he normally cannot have buffs removed or added while in the state. There is a chance that Fugue’s buff can’t be snapshot for whatever reason, but there is a pretty good chance it can, which is kinda interesting.
I can tell Hoyoverse is just going to rerun units who work with the new characters. I mean Sunday and Jingyuan THEN Firefly and Fugue give us a BREAK. Might just pull Sunday then Firefly money is reallly going down on this one
Very tough choice😅 Thinking about it and going by what you said i will probably go for Fugue and skip Sunday since i have both Firefly and Rappa. Have to see Remberance in action before making a decision there
Fugue will come down to if she is designed to replace MC or Ruan Mei in break comps. If she stacks with MC, then break is going to being doing stupid damage. Will need to see how Sunday does with Jing Yuan.
@@Daniel-ru8je She's also great for Boothill too. His extra talent attack proc breaks exo-toughness bars. + the ability to break bars without relying on ult is fantastic for his amp. Fugue makes Boothill way more applicable than before (even though he was already neat with that ult implant)
@@zarc1145 she's only a downgrade or sidegrade for FF. She's excellent for rappa, boothill, himeko, xueyi. I swear people doomposts her only because she doesn't work with FF too well lol
Im probably going to grab both. Sunday definitely seems like he will a solid investment for future remembrance teams. Fugue I want because she sounds like someone Rappa would love to have and I can make more break teams with her. Plus I really like foxian girls.
Very seriously looking forward to your upcoming character guides. Super excited. Also, supremely, godly level anticipation for your eventual content you on *The* Herta!
I was planning to get E1S1 Sunday. But i think E0S1 is enough since lots of new interesting character is coming. Aglaea may be my next target since she pairs well with him, plus i dont have a single summon char rn😅
Currently, Firefly has access to 65/85% DEF ignore for her Break/Superbreak damage. Her E1 (15), Ruan Mei’s E1 (20), and Lingsha’s E1 (20), plus the Iron Cavalry Set’s 10/25% ignore for each. In other words, Fugue opens the door for 100%+ DEF ignore for Superbreak if her DEF reduction is bare minimum 15%-plus the double break prots with exotoughness.
arent deff ignore and Deffense reduce kinda different? also if you switching HMC how much BE stat you lose in place of Fugue that only buff one person? also being Nihility thats also mean cant use DDD, this solve by get her E2. so the conclusion you need either E1-2 just to be better than HMC? thats........ bad..... really bad....
Def ignore and def reduction are treated the same for calculating dmg. Def ignore is just a buff while Def reduction is a debuff. But you would add them together
Rappa too for more stacks (i.e., more damage) and energy from the additional breaks. Not to mention giving someone like Lingsha rainbow break will just improve her capabilities in non imaginary/fire scenarios.
But of course it has to be Firefraud that reruns with her. I wanted Bootyhill, expected it to be him because of recent Rappa and oddly Sunday would synergize with him too because he's a Bronya upgrade. Alas, Hoyo slaps us with Fireflop. Hoyo can't stop milking her. Fudging cowpoop
💸💳. Don't be blind. All hoyo really aims for is us spending real money. And the more the better... But don't forget: this is just a game. It isn't worth spending money on (5 euros every so often is ok, but don't buy jades and such). Just forget meta (that's for rich people). Past meta teams can also clear in the future - non-meta units can do so, too. Pick 2 mains you like, step by step build workable teams for them (no need to be perfect) and slowly level up their cones, traces, relics, etc. They will be able to clear it all. We feel like non-meta teams cannot perform because they tell us so (even YT streamers because they also live off on our FOMO) and because we don't build our characters properly. We just half-bake them and then of course they struggle... But in Genshin, people can main QiQi. And in HSR people can main Arlan, Dan Heng, etc...
I skipped Robin the first time and do not regret it one bit. At her release, her best teams were barely at the top of the meta. And the zero cycle gimmicks were something you could easily do without. It took until Feixiao to propel her best team to the very top, and it took until Gallagher to enable her to be played in non FUA teams reasonably And after I had a chance to get Feixiao, I was also able to get Robin at her peak without a problem on her rerun So if you're not able to get Sunday now, its completely fine. The 3.0 DPSs would more than likely be capable to handling any endgame content without him until his rerun. The most broken DPS for Sunday's archetype would probably be well into the patch anyway. Plus, you'd also get a chance to actually see if you like the summon meta and see how well the DPSs work with Sunday as you wait
"it took until Gallagher" except gallagher came out first? robin has always been bis for any teams that can crit and people not understanding qpq gallagher at her release doesn't change that
@@Pepper-i3dI meant that it took until that tech was discovered People also didn't realise the she was a really good crit DPS support for a while Also, all the characters released between her initial release and her rerun were more than capable of zero cycling without Robin because those MOCs were beneficial for them You could easily do without Robin until her rerun with Feixiao
what are you even talking about?on release ratio topaz robin aven was the best team in the game alongside acheron behaving as if FUA wasnt good until feixiao
I'll definitely be pulling for Sunday because I think he'll likely have good use for past and future Crit DPS units (I have and use DHIL, Jingliu, Argenti and JY) as well as Summoners, while with Fugue I only have HMC, Firefly, Gallagher and Himeko. I think I would like to get Ruan Mei first and then *maybe* Fugue on her rerun.
A thing I really wish you will test/talk about in the Fugue video is her on a team with a Gallagher using QPQ. Because I personally believe that if you have the two on one team, one shouldn't use Fugue's skill because it's only a bit of damage and it soaks up the energy from other units. But I would like some confirmation or falsification on it from actual testing/calcs.
Gonna go for Firefly E1 then go all in on Herta. I do like the summon mechanic inherently but I'm not entirely a fan of the characters who can use them, so I'll probably wait for a Sunday rerun so I know what else he can support.
7:11 Literally the EXACT reason why I'm gonna get Fugue. I'm unfortunately gonna have to skip Sunday though, so the teams will be Boothill/Bronya/Fugue/Sustain and then Firefly/HMC/Ruan Mei/Gallagher.
Im torn between Fugue for HMC replacement + Himeko stuff, or e2 FF since both would help me in Pure Fiction. The value of Sunday comes down to how Remembrance MC plays and if we are running a sub-dps playstyle or hypercarry for summons, so I think its still a bit too early to pass judgement on Sunday until we learn more. He definitely seems pretty strong though!
I’ll definitely pull Sunday not only for the future summon meta, but also he will definitely be an interesting duo with my Yunli! Thank you for the video
Is fugue's superbreak better, the same or worse than hmc's? Im only gonna get her if its better or the same, as it means i can replace hmc with fugue, and use rmc.
I have already decided i want to pull for Firefly + E1. I’ve been wanting her ever since i missed her in 2.3, so no Fugue for me. I already have the rest of the superbreak trio I will likely still prioritise HMC over RMC if I ever need both at the same time. Anyway excited for your guides
If sparkle taught me anything is that I will not pull for the support until I need them for the dps first. Everyone hyped sparkle and few patches later robin replaced her in most of her teams. Tingyun buffiing break teams seems like investing into a sinking ship since were getting hp drain and summon meta next.
I'm considering Fugue to replace HMC once the new path opens up, but one thing I will be watching closely is how well these new units work with F2P cones and how demanding their stat requirements are. I definitely don't have the tickets to go lightcone hunting anymore.
amazing vid, guoba !!! it really is hard to decide hahaha im getting sunday, but i would also like fugue, the herta and aglaea not having an erudition unit until this day in the present feels harsh lmao
Amphoreus reveals have me shook and I am struggling to re-stack my overall pull plan. Through a long and somewhat convoluted series of logical deductions: I've ultimately determined that as beautiful as Fugue is, I cannot pull her. The arguments for pulling Sunday remain unchallenged, so chicken wing boy it is!
I think fugue is a better pull than Sunday. He has no team and furthermore he will rerun in the future and you can decide if his worth it after you see whose he is BiS for.
@@MACA_Zeon he literally runs with jing yuan on his release. Stop acting like he cannot buff units like DHIL, Jingliu, Feixiao, etc. People need to stop acting like he is only limited to buffing summon/servant units when he can be used outside of those too. There are plenty of leaked showcases on youtube
I really don't like Sunday so no matter how good he is I can't pass up Fugue for him despite Himeko being my only breaker. I plan to try Fugue with Acheron. Maybe have her give the buff to Aventurine. Some of the new characters look amazing to so it sucks for me that Sunday will most likely be their best support.
Star Rail is a bit frustrating because it has so many new 5 stars, and a noticeable amount of powercreep. With the amount of wishes we get, it's really hard to keep up and you end up missing out on so many cool characters. There's no reasonable way a F2P or even monthly pass player will be able to get more than 2 of Sunday, Fugue, The Herta, and Agalea, and that's not even considering getting a LC. It sucks to have to wait for a re-run because by the time most characters re-run their power level will be out of the meta. Even Acheron who was by far the strongest character on release is hard to justify pulling now that Firefly, Boothill, and Feixiao are in the game and undoubtedly 3.X characters will be even better
It's understandable but i prefeer it this way. I Dont want to pull for a new character only to use it with the same comp i have been using for 4 years (bennet, xianling, xingqiu in genshin...)
@@SebasRyz I don't want entirely stagnant teams either but I would prefer less powercreep, and a focus on different teams instead. Have plenty of teams for follow-up, (super)break, DOT, summons, hypercarry, basic atk focused, ult focused, etc. Instead of going wide and powercreeping slowly it feels like every major version will have a new power tier and you'll just have to pull the newest characters to keep up instead of having new ways to use your old teams. Using Genshin as an example, Dendro made a lot of older units way better and they had new teams. Furina did the same. Xianyun opened up the plunge playstyle and let Diluc become competitive for the first time since 1.X. Xilonen made it so that Kazuha isn't the quintessential buffer for everyone PECH. There's so much team variety, and while yes Bennett, Xiangling, Xingqiu are all still good, they're not good in every team and have plenty of competition for their spots. Sorry for the ramble the comparison has been on my mind a lot. I really like HSR but the pace of new 5 stars and powercreep are its biggest flaws IMO
I’ve never pulled on the promise of some future meta in any game and I’m not about to start. If remembrance and summon meta was so op that it invalidated the rest of the game, I wouldn’t be upset that I didn’t have Sunday, I’d drop HSR because I don’t play games if I have zero faith in the devs.
I'm thinking of getting Sunday. I already have RM and the point of MC is that they can change paths wherever. If they are required we can use him in a side and Sunday has a simmilar role to RMC if the leaks turn out to be correct. (By the time Sunday banner is out we will have a more solid kit o leaks)
Dude Fugue is gonna be so good for Himeko, that’s literally what made Himeko so powerful in this MoC. The exo-toughness in her kit is going to be such a good buff for Himeko especially in PF
Sunday all day! Cause he's Sunday. And he makes King Yuan even better ❤❤ King Yuan getting more and more relevant while Seele is dead on a ditch 😂😂😂😂 As a day one player this sure puts a smile on my face.
She has mono Quantum I guess lol 😅 problem is Fu Xuan and Sparkle are just so inferior to their competitors and SW is pretty redundant unless you are using them in a non-Quantum weak stage. She has the nice def shred at least.
I have firefly break basic team with rm and no other 5 star and I have dot premium team Kafka , huo huo, black swan so who should I pull for? Char to power up dot team or someone else like entire new summons(sun) or fuge for ff I also have fu Xuan and Robin along with ratio, no 5star light cone, I only have 4 k gem and 40 pity
Fugue is good with turning her whole team into a break centric comp by just existing, Sunday is the rope that ties summon team's together and can even work outside of that with the insane crit buff's, action forward, ENERGY, and dmg%. (Bronyas lc further increases the dmg% to 50% or that MoC S5 light cone.)
im pulling for fugue for obvious break team reasons, but theres also alot of reasons not to pull for sunday atm: -sunday's kit is meant for a brand new team theme, meaning unless u have jing yuan or want to meme with lingsha, that means you have to pull for Algaea, and potentially another sustainer or another support meant for remem. -sunday's kit also doesnt explain if it does count ults like acheron and fei, so im assuming they wont synergize well -since he only targets his buffs to one person, he's more niche of a support meant for hypercarry summons, dual dps def wont be as supported -since summon meta will be a thing, he's way more likely to be re-run compared to fugue where they have overdone making break characters and she wont be around as likely (im guessing they will make more break characters, but more support on rappa or boothill or even a new element)
True! the only chars Sunday doesn't synergize well is Fei and acheron! But dw, he can work well outside summon/servant teams as well~ used as a support for other hypercarries (Jingliu, Danheng, Argenti, etc) as he is SP neutral to positive, 40flat energy regen, 100% aa, damage buff, crate, and cdmg buffs! If you're truly break oriented might aswell get him in the future patches~ I heard amphoreus is going to be remembrance, des, and nihility meta ^^
@@ploppatartu5378Sunday actually synergises well with E2 Acheron, he can comfortably take Sparkles spot if you don't have her and by chance have E2 Acheron.
@@ToVoMo Is he better than Bronya for SP consumption? Jiaoqiu dodge me before and I'm running E2S1 Acheron, E0S0 Fuxuan, Pela, E2S1 Bronya for most content, and no I'm not pursuing 0 cycle thing. I was thinking of getting Fugue because I have Aventurine and Fugue can boost him to debuff the enemies to add Acheron stacks. So the scenario would be like this 1. Acheron Fuxuan Pela Sunday 2. Acheron Aventurine Fugue Bronya Which one do you think is better for my Acheron team? or my original plan before all of these 3.0 drip marketing was getting E1 Firefly. Mine was E0S1 and yes I have Lingsha. Now I'm confused on what path to take lmao
My lord Sunday and his LC WILL be coming home but I feel like Fugue's gonna be nice for my Boothill too, esp the exotoughness combined with her toughness break implant getting rid of a lot of smaller mobs so he can build stacks whilst also focusing on a single target boss more.
People said Topaz’s follow-up support would be bad later on, which ended up a funny joke now. Kafka also showed her DoT specialty early on. Everyone knew she would be essential for DoT going forward. Sunday has a mechanic that is rare, while Fugue doesn’t. Even without the summon meta, him digging into that archetype is important. We definitely can’t skip him.
Exo Toughness? Sometimes u can't predict which unit will be good moving forward or not, there are currently ass mechanism such as swolf plant weakness (bruh all unit got it in kit rn) And blade drain hp doesn't get dedicated support yet as for now
Fugue is a must for break teams if you want to use RMC, superbreak enablers are rare. Sunday is not needed right now, you can wait for his rerun when you can actually make a summon team, you definitely CAN skip him
Nah, Sunday is a trap. We know from RMC's kit that dual dps Servant comps will be a thing, and Sunday's buffs are limited to ST. Further, we know that there's a supposed nihility meta in 3.3/3.4. As the benefits of debuffs apply to the whole team, this indicates that the ideal comp could be something like (Servant main-dps, Servant sub-dps, Nihility, Sustainer). Servant damage will also be added as a new attribute (like FuA, DoT, Skill, Ultimate, etc), so logic dictates that we'll at least get a unit that builds on this (e.g., Servant damage vulnerability). Pull for Sunday if you want to have fun with the new toys early on, but I highly doubt he'll be the BiS option long-term (especially once the Fate collab hits in 3.5+).
Definitely going to aim for Sunday and Jing Yuan! Been really wanting Jing Yuan since I wasn’t able to get him during his last rerun and Sunday looks amazing as well! I really wanted to pull for Firefly too but I may have to skip her for the new characters coming up since they look absolutely amazing 🤩 😭
Already get firefly and her LC But super break isnt my taste Crit is more fun to me Its time to get JY and sunday Then running 2 General team Feixio team and JY team
The answer is super easy and is only one: Sunday. He is the enabler for the summon meta that we officially now remembrance is. Fugue is a sidegrade to HMC so she is the most easy skip of all time.
I really hope Sunday means a new summon meta/archetype is incoming, because I need characters I can skip without feeling like I’m wasting opportunities, like I already do with DoT. Not every release being for Break or Follow Up is going to be great.
@@mika086 ...man there are so many sensitive players Lol i just simply told you Fugue is a break character and Acheron isn't, why are you offended by that?
From how I see it, Sunday's rerun is either gonna pair with another new archetype, a perfect pair for him, or reviving old archetypes (DOT, double dps, etc). So I'm thinking of solidifying Firefly and then embrace fully summon meta (unless they revive Dot team).
For 2.7 my goals are sunday and fugue as well as one firefly so I can get her to E2. Considering my luck regarding pity and 50:50s recently I might just have to actually pay for jade packs for once. In any case, 3.X has some great characters. Really really excited for them so at least sunday is a must.
man idk who to pull for. i want to get sunday but topaz is the only character i have with a summon, so i thought i should get jing yuan first to really make the most out of it, but with my limited warps, i doubt i'll get the both of them on the same patch. i also want to get fugue since i'm a nihility collector but i'm not sure if she's good for dot. i want to pull one last character before saving up for phainon and cyrene in 3.X patches 😭
I knew I was going to pull for Sunday back when the 2.0 special program showed him. I am a Topaz main, so having him for that team and doing a future Topaz, Sunday, RMC, + whatever future summon or additional FUA sustain we get is going to be my v3 team. Then, I just hope that I can not burn all my resources so I can get THE Herta in 3.0.
I feel like if I had started at a different time I would be more compelled by 2.7 units, but as it stands, I think I'm waiting for 3.0. When I started it was because I figured it'd be easier to get a decent FF if I started a little early, so I started towards the end of Aventurine's banner, pulled on FF for my first 5 star, and I've just pulled on the characters I thought best solved my issues with my account since. That's put me a little low but not completely drained going into 2.7 and needing some AoE DPS now that I've grabbed Aventurine from his rerun for my fua team. I don't think I can justify pulling Sunday with no characters to use him knowing it'll probably take everything I can throw at his banner, and Fugue is compelling, but I can let FF sit out an MoC if ReMC really is that good at that rotation. I've tried to think of my DPS as existing within the silos of their mechanics and element instead of just brute force everything and its worked so far.
If I pull the other remembrance path characters but I don't have sunday but I use robin and RMC will I lose out alot of benefits or just the core buffs?
For me i am leaning towards fugue. I unfortunately failed Lingsha pull and dont have raun mei, but i got lucky with rappa and have been using her. So both fugue and the return of Gallagher willl help me out alot.
This upcoming patch is tight for f2ps lol Personally ill just go for sunday to prepare for upcoming remembrance/summon meta. I initially plan to E2 FF or get fugue to upgrade superbreak team but man Aglaea got drip as a remembrance, now I had to pull sunday for her team
I really dont know what to do. I was planing to go for fugue for my break teams, they need an upgrade. I saw some leaks( dont know if they are true ) but of the characters i like none of them are of the new path so sunday can wait for now... I wonder if Herta would be a normal dps or break lol
My current limited 5 star roster is: Firefly, Boothill, Acheron, Feixiao, Robin, Ruan Mei, Jade, Aventurine (All E0) I also have E1 bronya and E1 Himeko. Who should I pull for, Sunday or Fugue? Thank you!
Man. I'm still trying to figure out if I should be pulling for Aventurine to button up my follow-up team or if I'll regret having to skip parts of the inevitably strong Remembrance meta.
😮i missed the livestream and i just knew how much fugue offers im for sure pulling for sunday for my jingyuan, but now idk if i should try pulling for sunday lc or jingyuan lc or fugue or firefly e1😩im being too greedy
I'm definitely pulling Sunday as an early investment for the Summon meta and for the Fate characters. I REALLY wanted to pull Fugue but I only have FF for Super Break and HMC has me covered. I'll likely skip for now since I really want those Flamechaser Expys.
I think ill use my gaurenteed to get Sunday (Depends on his story in 2.7) then pray I get Fugue, not only do I love her design but I love her new voice and animations! I also do plan on getting Boothill in the future (I alwo have Rappa)
Looking at my Jades I think I'll be able to get both of them. Sunday's kit is just too interesting to me and I adore Fugue's design (I've also invested in Break teams so I'd like a non HMC option for super break). So I'm pulling both for meta with Sunday and for fun with Fugue. It will make jades tight for 3.0 though so we'll see if I'm able to grab Aglaea since I certainly want her but I think I'd rather make sure my current teams are doing well before I start going into a new playstyle.
Jing Yuan main since he dropped, of course I'm gonna go for e1s1 Sunday. I am f2p and usually never go past e0s0, but I'd do anything for my wife. I am a bit tempted by Fugue... she's pretty and she'd be great for some units I use a lot (BH, Himeko, Xueyi) but I want to save for the new people of 3.0! Eyepatch dude looks very cool. AND I'm still waititng for that Balde buff... trust...
Guoba my friend, question do you look at or study leaks? Also, I naturally love summons so remembrance path and Amphoreus bout to be lit. 100% E6 Sunday and E1 or E2 Tingyun.
If I only have blade as my Main dps and pela as my support and thinking about getting bailu as a healer when we get the free 5 star pick, is it smart to get Sunday? I just downloaded the game after months of not playing.
I’m determined. I’ve waited months for Sunday to come. Nothing will change my mind especially since he will also make one of my favourite ever characters Jing Yuan better. Double the value 😊 If the RNG gods are merciful with my jades, Fugue looks interesting as well.
Is sunday worth it as someone with ruan mei, bronya + sparkle but no jiaoqiu or robin? i know robin is extremely strong but I dont know if shes just been utility crept or not...
The Harmony unit for a new meta, and a Super Break enabler & exo toughness enabler at the same time a new MC is coming out... it's a really rough patch.
Let me know who you wanna pull in 2.7 and beyond!
I really, really wanna pull for Sunday, but then again, 3.0 is around the corner with some banger units. I personally want to pull Mydei and Castorice!
Fugue will be a good replacement for HTB for 3.0 and forth
@@PDSpiderA total upgrade.
Question where does the Exo-toughness comes from?
It just seems her passive skill is having super break always enabled? Like a constant Harmony MC ult
"... with Sunday, a unit you might regret skipping." Wow thanks for fueling my anxiety for a unit I absolutely hate but may require to be pulled because he's so stupidly broken.. Tingyun, Sparkle and Bronya combined and even more broken, we DEFINITELY NEEDED that kind of bullshit.
"Don't worry if you can't pull them". Oh I don't need to, the game will constantly remind me how I suck because I don't have the brand new broken harmony unit and people will point fingers like they do when you don't have Robin. I've been in that situation.
Also while sunday would technically fall under the same issue I had with Robin (aka no point of getting at the time since the best unit I could pair her with was Clara, as Acheron and Firefly had their team) because the energy gain would be meaningless for most of my DPS (Acheron/Feixiao works on stacks, Firefly hardly need it), I still have to consider how Jingliu would be affected (Jingliu being my favorite unit).
We also have to consider Eidolons because let's be real, Hoyo is a greedy company and will definitely give them E1/E2 that is "necessary" to use to make the unit strong.
All I want is for Sunday to be "bad" because I feel like Hoyo will excessively push remembrance on us to make it op/good, and is just playing on fomo. And Sunday's rerun will probably end up on a bad spot like how Robin was.
I hate Sunday.😥And Fugue definitely got the short end of what's coming.
Running 2 extremely anticipated and likely future-proof characters before 2 exciting new characters that we know nothing, and an entire new path, about is the most cruel thing I've seen Hoyo do so far.
Then adds the Flamechasers tease and future Fate collab banner in horizon after these shenanigans
Time to swipe the card lil bros
Yeah, it's gonna be a time to pick & choose your battles hardcore for this. I know I NEED Sunday & Fugue... I wanna attempt to be ahead of the Summon/Rem Meta before 3.0.
Whereas I need Fugue to bolster my Rappa comp 😞 since I don't have Ruan Mei. So my comp will end up looking like this on that end: Rappa, Hunt March, Fugue & Gallagher/Adventurine/Pela
3 wishes. Hoyo's done worse, lil bro
I see someone hasn't played HI3 during trio Herrscher back to back release
great video!
counterargument: i have 2 kidneys and only need one
excellent point.
i have no counterargument
Nah dawg, dont undervalue your kidneys.
Don't listen to em, I'll give you 3k for it. I could use a good snack
@@SleepingPajamasIs that want u nom on in ur sleeping pajamas? Lol
@@SleepingPajamas What, no
Eat the liver. That's much better
(1:30) I can't believe the 2 second deadpan after a league of legends reference made me giggle...
hehehe
I literally laughed and then rushed to the comments to see who else noticed 😅
what time
@@ICNHH 1:30
@@zipzipzoppy thanks
The Herta is all I needed. Other than Harmony units, it's also wise to go for (confirmed) Emanators. For meta? Nah, I just want to collect Emanators.
Emanator collecting is baller
The Emanator of Emanators right here
isn't Sunday basically an eminator of Order?
@@ongseungwu4311I think he momentarily became an aeoen but isn’t normally an emenator. Harmony doesn’t have any individual ones apparently accordion to wiki
I'd normally agree but Acheron's middling place in the meta (relative to other 2.x units) is proof that Emanators don't get special treatment.
Yup this patch is tough but I'm sticking to my plan to pull Fugue to eventually replace HMC but definitely think about pulling for Sunday on the eventual rerun for sure 😁
Same, MC is not forever with their harmony path, so other than Fugue there is non super break buffer
Bro we gonna skip Sunday like 3 times considering the Flamechasers (or other Xianzhou Generals) are coming lmao. After Flamechasers banner's streak end, its probably time for Fate collab banner too xD
Heads empty, wallet drained, sanity collapsed
@@jonathannigel8979 Soul unsubscribed.
I think Sunday will get his rerun pretty early just like Robin. Robin came out in 2.2 and had her first rerun in 2.5 alongside Feixiao. Sunday will most likely rerun alongside the meta defining big boi summon dps.
Same, I have more uses for Fugue personally for my Rangers since I'd only be pulling Sunday as a Bronya upgrade for my Bootsie, I'll still maybe use a ten pull around the end of his banner just in case he wants to come early and still leave me with enough jades to pull Fugue, maybe I'd do a pull or two depending on how many I have. I've been able to save up 90 pulls in just one half of this 2.6 patch after using all my savings on Rappa, so I feel confident I will be able to have enough, Plus even if I don't get him early, he'll probably come back very soon
Definitely going for Sunday. With the new remembrance path being about summons and his kit support that..I have to grab him! ✨️🙌🏻 (I'll try to E6 him in future reruns)
E6 :O gl and I hope its an awesome eidolon!
you might reconsider when you learn about his eidolons,
but you will do it anyway if you really like him
His eidolons are pretty meh meh, I don't recommend doing so specially since 3.0+ will have a lot of good units with a new playstyle. So, unless you have a lot of money and doesn't care about that, I would get him + his LC and then just save.
@@guobacertifiedsadly, his eidolons are kinda meh complain to Robin. Only E1 is worth it
@@LannaOlez i see, i guess if it's not really important then yeah might as well just stick to e1-e2 in the future, thanks!
Pull Fugue because meta ❌
Pull Fugue so you can play RMC ✅
if you want to play the summon mc it only makes sense to pull THE summon support aka Sunday
Imo something to consider with Sunday is how he will likely be reran with the meta defining dps banner, just like Ruan Mei did with Firefly.
pull sunday now, e2 the meta defining dps ok their banner 😎
Sunday is an absolute must for me. Gotta make the General great again. Also in the distant future, I can very easily see the Fate characters having summons and I'm hard saving for those soon.
I forgot about the fate summons, will start saving now. No idea how reruns for them would go actually.
@louisarroyo5255 Collab reruns are few and far between in gacha games usually. They could potentially never rerun. So I'm taking the safe approach lol
@@CalFPS I’m going to follow exactly that, I’ll only pull if it’s a must other than that save for the collab.
Hmmmm I can only see Rider having summons.
Unless if its Shirou and Saber as a 1 Unit but seeing the trailer and how its only Archer...
Yeah I only see Rider at the moment because of her NP. So Ill be rolling for Firefly because I have only started playing because of that Collaboration and She won my heart.
@@twobrosgamers8426 it will be crazy if they add gilgamesh and make his path remembrance 🤣🤣🤣
I have gotten every single foxian so far so I’m legally obligated to get Fugue… add in Nihility is my face unit type (so far) and Break has hard carried me and the decision is even wiser
Quick video suggestion: could you make a priority list for the free standard pull? Particulaly taking eidolons into account. Just to guide both new and old players on who is the most efficient pick.
just gonna roughly list
OVERALL
1. Himeko
2. Clara
3. Bronya
4. Welt
5. Bailu
6. Gepard
7. Yanqing
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM
1. Himeko (our PF savior)
2. Bronya
3. Clara (Yunli lite for the best reasons)
4. Bailu
5. Welt
6. Gepard
7. Yanqing
@noahi.1381 yeah. I'm aware of that. Problem is that we need a rating including the eidolons eg is e1 himeko better than getting an e0 clara etc etc
Who do you think is better if I don't have any buffers between bronya and Clara?@@noahi.1381
I think Sunday has the best chance of aging well and staying relevant. Advance forward + Summoning/Remembrance coming soon + Energy Ult. If you had to pull for one, I think Sunday would be the best bang for you buck.
Especially if you have Ruan Mei already. I don't, and Firefly is my dedicated dps so I feel obligated to pull for Fugue haha.
@@joshuadunham3018I think you were meant to comment under a Fugue puller, this one is a Sunday puller.
@@ToVoMo no, I agreed that Sunday is the best choice if you already have Ruan Mei.
@@joshuadunham3018 RM complementing Fugue makes way more sense than Sunday, Sunday is a hypercarry support where Fugue and RM are meant for break.
@@ToVoMo definitely. Also, even if you just have only either RM or Fugue and want to run superbreak, you'll do fine because they are that good even on their own, so grabbing Fugue even if you don't have RM is still a great idea (actually an even better idea if you don't have RM because you'll want at least one of them, if not both) unless you don't care about superbreak, in which case, for sure get Sunday.
It has to be sunday. He's just like robin. He'll age better
you saying tingyun is dying again ?
He's basically better Bronya and she's used on a multitude of 0 cycle teams still to this day. Same for Robin, always pull for Harmony. (Except Sparkle we don't talk about her)
@@guobacertifiedwell they are trying to break our stellar jade neck with that one.
Nuh uh
Or is he more like sparkle? Strong in a few comps but not universal.
Note: I disagree with this take. If you told me Tingyun and Bronya got put into one unit at 1.0 my brain would explode. Heck it still kinda does.
As someone who spent "a buck😅" for E2 Acheron, and Rappa + S1 I'll definitely be getting Fugue, also because i was a Tingyun enjoyer from the very beginning, and now that she's so strong that makes me want her even more lol
Loved the insight your videos give, the pros, cons and all the cals ❤
One thing to keep in mind. Sunday will most probably rerun soon, when the best remembrance DPS drops. Like Ruan Mei rerun with Firefly and Robin with Feixiao.
Got it, so would going for Sunday now and then the remembrance DPS later be a good idea?
@@astrokitty.404 yes. you should also conssider that we'll be getting the fate collab too
I say Sunday is a must pull due to his overall kit, but Fugue is needed if only you plan to play RMC. Sunday is a better RMC for sure, but idk if they can play together. Break meta won't fall, but they might have synergy with summon. Summoners probably have synergy with Fua/break/dot and more because i believe the summon meta will make the old units shine again
Going for a harmony that you know will play into the next meta is never wrong. It's probably the easier and most safe path to take.
But, saving for the rerun is also okay, just that you need to keep it in mind for the spend planning during Amphoreus (where there's gonna be a lot cool units it seems).
Honestly, I will wait for the story of 2.7 to see how the chars are.
I think I'm gonna stick to my guns and pull for Fugue, skipping Sunday. I'm sure Sunday and summons will be great... but I already have heavy investment into great break and FUA teams, I'm not in any hurry when it comes to building another.
Also, I actually hadn't considered the whole "MC leaving harmony path behind" thing, so it's probably a good idea to make sure my best team isn't reliant on HMC.
I'm still deciding who to pull.
But one of my acquaintances didn't pull for Ruan Mei/Robin for Break and FuA meta until their rerun, and they're doing just as well as I am, despite me pulling both characters on day one.
This might suggests I should prioritize pulling for Sunday only when I have a proper team to play with, rather than forcing myself to pull for a great unit that I'm not ready to use.
Yup. People are so happy to grab a character that's near useless without a summon team. 😵💫
I really want to see if Moze can snapshot Fugue’s buff. If he can, that would open up a pretty interesting Break/FUA hybrid team of Xueyi/Moze/Fugue/Lingsha. Where Xueyi, Moze and Lingsha can all omnibreak with their FUAs.
Lol this is gonna to be fun😆
I’m might to pull for her to tried this
@ Any excuse to bust out Xueyi 👏
what is snapshot?
@@rafiathallahseniang129 “Snapshot” refers to when a character is able to retain whatever buffs are currently applied to them upon casting an ability for the ability’s whole duration regardless if the buffs expire. Moze snapshots the active buffs on him when entering his “departed state”, and retains those buffs until he exits it, it doesn’t matter how long those buffs are supposed to last or if they get removed somehow, Moze will keep them. Fugue’s omnibreak buff only applies to the most recent character she uses her skill on, it will be removed from one character if she puts it on another, but theoretically, Moze should keep the buff as long as he had it when entering the Departed state, since he normally cannot have buffs removed or added while in the state. There is a chance that Fugue’s buff can’t be snapshot for whatever reason, but there is a pretty good chance it can, which is kinda interesting.
@@rafiathallahseniang129 Using the buff after it expires. Example like Xiangling's Pyronado can carry Bennett's Q buff after his Q duration expires.
I can tell Hoyoverse is just going to rerun units who work with the new characters. I mean Sunday and Jingyuan THEN Firefly and Fugue give us a BREAK. Might just pull Sunday then Firefly money is reallly going down on this one
Very tough choice😅
Thinking about it and going by what you said i will probably go for Fugue and skip Sunday since i have both Firefly and Rappa.
Have to see Remberance in action before making a decision there
Fugue will come down to if she is designed to replace MC or Ruan Mei in break comps. If she stacks with MC, then break is going to being doing stupid damage. Will need to see how Sunday does with Jing Yuan.
Shes designed to replace MC but she is barely an upgrade and can even be considered a downgrade at e0, sunday simply is the better choice
@@zarc1145unless you have rappa. Then the exo-toughnesa becomea just so strong...
@@Daniel-ru8je She's also great for Boothill too. His extra talent attack proc breaks exo-toughness bars. + the ability to break bars without relying on ult is fantastic for his amp. Fugue makes Boothill way more applicable than before (even though he was already neat with that ult implant)
@@zarc1145 she's only a downgrade or sidegrade for FF. She's excellent for rappa, boothill, himeko, xueyi. I swear people doomposts her only because she doesn't work with FF too well lol
@@izzme5204probably cringeFLY copers.
You saying summoners rift triggered my chronic addiction and I paused the video to start queue, so thanks
Im probably going to grab both.
Sunday definitely seems like he will a solid investment for future remembrance teams.
Fugue I want because she sounds like someone Rappa would love to have and I can make more break teams with her. Plus I really like foxian girls.
Very seriously looking forward to your upcoming character guides. Super excited. Also, supremely, godly level anticipation for your eventual content you on *The* Herta!
I was planning to get E1S1 Sunday. But i think E0S1 is enough since lots of new interesting character is coming. Aglaea may be my next target since she pairs well with him, plus i dont have a single summon char rn😅
Currently, Firefly has access to 65/85% DEF ignore for her Break/Superbreak damage. Her E1 (15), Ruan Mei’s E1 (20), and Lingsha’s E1 (20), plus the Iron Cavalry Set’s 10/25% ignore for each.
In other words, Fugue opens the door for 100%+ DEF ignore for Superbreak if her DEF reduction is bare minimum 15%-plus the double break prots with exotoughness.
arent deff ignore and Deffense reduce kinda different? also if you switching HMC how much BE stat you lose in place of Fugue that only buff one person? also being Nihility thats also mean cant use DDD, this solve by get her E2. so the conclusion you need either E1-2 just to be better than HMC? thats........ bad..... really bad....
Def ignore and def reduction are treated the same for calculating dmg. Def ignore is just a buff while Def reduction is a debuff. But you would add them together
Don't those numbers add to 80%, not 85%? Fugue gives 18% def shred, so unfortunately she's off by 2% for that mythical 100% dream.
@TrueKingSimba Eh, math is hard. In any case, I guess that’s why we have the Resolution light cone.
@@Kindi001 I agree Fugue is a major downgrade for Firefly
Fugue is great for Boothill especially because it will allow him to get medals easier when facing non-physical enemies!
Boothill is the only break DPS I have so I'm glad she seems to work for him 😁
Well I don't have him but I plan to get him on his rerun if I can. But I'm going for Sunday. I don't have a limited Harmony unit.
Rappa too for more stacks (i.e., more damage) and energy from the additional breaks. Not to mention giving someone like Lingsha rainbow break will just improve her capabilities in non imaginary/fire scenarios.
But of course it has to be Firefraud that reruns with her. I wanted Bootyhill, expected it to be him because of recent Rappa and oddly Sunday would synergize with him too because he's a Bronya upgrade. Alas, Hoyo slaps us with Fireflop. Hoyo can't stop milking her. Fudging cowpoop
💰💰💰@@youremotionalsupport194
My Lingsha will become the DPS she is meant to be. Lingsha, Jade, Sunday, Robin for PF and Lingsha with Fugue for MOC.
Guaranteed Sunday’s LC (tried for acheron and got welts. Again.) and gunning for his e1 cause i want to be absolutely normal about him.
The powercreep in this game is crazy.
Idk how they expect players to keep up with 2 new broken characters every patch
💸💳. Don't be blind. All hoyo really aims for is us spending real money. And the more the better... But don't forget: this is just a game. It isn't worth spending money on (5 euros every so often is ok, but don't buy jades and such).
Just forget meta (that's for rich people). Past meta teams can also clear in the future - non-meta units can do so, too. Pick 2 mains you like, step by step build workable teams for them (no need to be perfect) and slowly level up their cones, traces, relics, etc. They will be able to clear it all. We feel like non-meta teams cannot perform because they tell us so (even YT streamers because they also live off on our FOMO) and because we don't build our characters properly. We just half-bake them and then of course they struggle... But in Genshin, people can main QiQi. And in HSR people can main Arlan, Dan Heng, etc...
I skipped Robin the first time and do not regret it one bit. At her release, her best teams were barely at the top of the meta. And the zero cycle gimmicks were something you could easily do without. It took until Feixiao to propel her best team to the very top, and it took until Gallagher to enable her to be played in non FUA teams reasonably
And after I had a chance to get Feixiao, I was also able to get Robin at her peak without a problem on her rerun
So if you're not able to get Sunday now, its completely fine. The 3.0 DPSs would more than likely be capable to handling any endgame content without him until his rerun. The most broken DPS for Sunday's archetype would probably be well into the patch anyway. Plus, you'd also get a chance to actually see if you like the summon meta and see how well the DPSs work with Sunday as you wait
"it took until Gallagher" except gallagher came out first? robin has always been bis for any teams that can crit and people not understanding qpq gallagher at her release doesn't change that
@@Pepper-i3dI meant that it took until that tech was discovered
People also didn't realise the she was a really good crit DPS support for a while
Also, all the characters released between her initial release and her rerun were more than capable of zero cycling without Robin because those MOCs were beneficial for them
You could easily do without Robin until her rerun with Feixiao
what are you even talking about?on release ratio topaz robin aven was the best team in the game alongside acheron
behaving as if FUA wasnt good until feixiao
I'll definitely be pulling for Sunday because I think he'll likely have good use for past and future Crit DPS units (I have and use DHIL, Jingliu, Argenti and JY) as well as Summoners, while with Fugue I only have HMC, Firefly, Gallagher and Himeko. I think I would like to get Ruan Mei first and then *maybe* Fugue on her rerun.
A thing I really wish you will test/talk about in the Fugue video is her on a team with a Gallagher using QPQ. Because I personally believe that if you have the two on one team, one shouldn't use Fugue's skill because it's only a bit of damage and it soaks up the energy from other units. But I would like some confirmation or falsification on it from actual testing/calcs.
Gonna go for Firefly E1 then go all in on Herta. I do like the summon mechanic inherently but I'm not entirely a fan of the characters who can use them, so I'll probably wait for a Sunday rerun so I know what else he can support.
I really want Fugue, but as someone who liked 4* Herta since day one I kinda want The Herta more, the difficult life of a F2P player
Pull them all man, i'm an f2p with a dream too 😂
7:11 Literally the EXACT reason why I'm gonna get Fugue. I'm unfortunately gonna have to skip Sunday though, so the teams will be Boothill/Bronya/Fugue/Sustain and then Firefly/HMC/Ruan Mei/Gallagher.
2:10 “I do think maybe we went a bit too far with all this advance nonsense though”hoyo: hold my jades, action advance to before the HARMony acts
Im torn between Fugue for HMC replacement + Himeko stuff, or e2 FF since both would help me in Pure Fiction. The value of Sunday comes down to how Remembrance MC plays and if we are running a sub-dps playstyle or hypercarry for summons, so I think its still a bit too early to pass judgement on Sunday until we learn more. He definitely seems pretty strong though!
The future is not hypercarry so there's that
1:30 say that again
say what now?
I’ll definitely pull Sunday not only for the future summon meta, but also he will definitely be an interesting duo with my Yunli! Thank you for the video
Is fugue's superbreak better, the same or worse than hmc's? Im only gonna get her if its better or the same, as it means i can replace hmc with fugue, and use rmc.
Firefly and Castorice have me on my knees
I feel you man, gonna skip all 3.1 ando 3.2 so I can get E0S1 castorice
I have already decided i want to pull for Firefly + E1. I’ve been wanting her ever since i missed her in 2.3, so no Fugue for me. I already have the rest of the superbreak trio
I will likely still prioritise HMC over RMC if I ever need both at the same time.
Anyway excited for your guides
If sparkle taught me anything is that I will not pull for the support until I need them for the dps first. Everyone hyped sparkle and few patches later robin replaced her in most of her teams.
Tingyun buffiing break teams seems like investing into a sinking ship since were getting hp drain and summon meta next.
Yeah... superbreak will not work with summoners...sure.
@@navalhabr All Im saying is theyll want to sell u new supports. I highly doubt RM will be the best support for another year.
Yeah they will release a better support in the new patch 3 so just gonna skip sunday.
I'm considering Fugue to replace HMC once the new path opens up, but one thing I will be watching closely is how well these new units work with F2P cones and how demanding their stat requirements are. I definitely don't have the tickets to go lightcone hunting anymore.
what i would do: get 160 jades and wish till you get someone 👍
amazing vid, guoba !!!
it really is hard to decide hahaha
im getting sunday, but i would also like fugue, the herta and aglaea
not having an erudition unit until this day in the present feels harsh lmao
thanks and good luck on your choice ^^
@guobacertified ty guoba
Amphoreus reveals have me shook and I am struggling to re-stack my overall pull plan.
Through a long and somewhat convoluted series of logical deductions: I've ultimately determined that as beautiful as Fugue is, I cannot pull her.
The arguments for pulling Sunday remain unchallenged, so chicken wing boy it is!
I think fugue is a better pull than Sunday. He has no team and furthermore he will rerun in the future and you can decide if his worth it after you see whose he is BiS for.
@@MACA_Zeon he literally runs with jing yuan on his release. Stop acting like he cannot buff units like DHIL, Jingliu, Feixiao, etc.
People need to stop acting like he is only limited to buffing summon/servant units when he can be used outside of those too. There are plenty of leaked showcases on youtube
@@lawrent I've watched a Sunday x Topaz run, and he turns Numby into a trotter buzzsaw
I really don't like Sunday so no matter how good he is I can't pass up Fugue for him despite Himeko being my only breaker. I plan to try Fugue with Acheron. Maybe have her give the buff to Aventurine.
Some of the new characters look amazing to so it sucks for me that Sunday will most likely be their best support.
Don't worry the future isn't hypercarry , Sunday will have his teams but won't be meta defining for the big boys of 3.x
Star Rail is a bit frustrating because it has so many new 5 stars, and a noticeable amount of powercreep. With the amount of wishes we get, it's really hard to keep up and you end up missing out on so many cool characters. There's no reasonable way a F2P or even monthly pass player will be able to get more than 2 of Sunday, Fugue, The Herta, and Agalea, and that's not even considering getting a LC.
It sucks to have to wait for a re-run because by the time most characters re-run their power level will be out of the meta. Even Acheron who was by far the strongest character on release is hard to justify pulling now that Firefly, Boothill, and Feixiao are in the game and undoubtedly 3.X characters will be even better
It's understandable but i prefeer it this way. I Dont want to pull for a new character only to use it with the same comp i have been using for 4 years (bennet, xianling, xingqiu in genshin...)
Considering you even win 50/50
@@SebasRyz I don't want entirely stagnant teams either but I would prefer less powercreep, and a focus on different teams instead. Have plenty of teams for follow-up, (super)break, DOT, summons, hypercarry, basic atk focused, ult focused, etc.
Instead of going wide and powercreeping slowly it feels like every major version will have a new power tier and you'll just have to pull the newest characters to keep up instead of having new ways to use your old teams.
Using Genshin as an example, Dendro made a lot of older units way better and they had new teams. Furina did the same. Xianyun opened up the plunge playstyle and let Diluc become competitive for the first time since 1.X. Xilonen made it so that Kazuha isn't the quintessential buffer for everyone PECH. There's so much team variety, and while yes Bennett, Xiangling, Xingqiu are all still good, they're not good in every team and have plenty of competition for their spots.
Sorry for the ramble the comparison has been on my mind a lot. I really like HSR but the pace of new 5 stars and powercreep are its biggest flaws IMO
Guoba! Can you give me some advice where should i spent my jades? "The Herta" Or Sunday Signature??
I’ve never pulled on the promise of some future meta in any game and I’m not about to start. If remembrance and summon meta was so op that it invalidated the rest of the game, I wouldn’t be upset that I didn’t have Sunday, I’d drop HSR because I don’t play games if I have zero faith in the devs.
I'm thinking of getting Sunday. I already have RM and the point of MC is that they can change paths wherever. If they are required we can use him in a side and Sunday has a simmilar role to RMC if the leaks turn out to be correct. (By the time Sunday banner is out we will have a more solid kit o leaks)
Dont like Sunday as a character so Im pulling Fugue for the FF team
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I kinda want sunday, but i've commited to fugue. Perhaps in the future if summon meta seems fun to play i'll go for it.
Recent Amphoreus teaser killed my hyped for Fugue and The Herta
Lmao same... I'll grab a Sunday and will probably skip everything until Amphoreus proper arrives with their banners, they're looking too good
Dude Fugue is gonna be so good for Himeko, that’s literally what made Himeko so powerful in this MoC. The exo-toughness in her kit is going to be such a good buff for Himeko especially in PF
Sunday all day!
Cause he's Sunday. And he makes King Yuan even better ❤❤
King Yuan getting more and more relevant while Seele is dead on a ditch 😂😂😂😂
As a day one player this sure puts a smile on my face.
She has mono Quantum I guess lol 😅 problem is Fu Xuan and Sparkle are just so inferior to their competitors and SW is pretty redundant unless you are using them in a non-Quantum weak stage. She has the nice def shred at least.
I have firefly break basic team with rm and no other 5 star and I have dot premium team Kafka , huo huo, black swan so who should I pull for? Char to power up dot team or someone else like entire new summons(sun) or fuge for ff I also have fu Xuan and Robin along with ratio, no 5star light cone, I only have 4 k gem and 40 pity
It's really overwhelming. Honestly I'm nervous about pulling anyone knowing how bad powercreep in this game >_
Fugue is good with turning her whole team into a break centric comp by just existing, Sunday is the rope that ties summon team's together and can even work outside of that with the insane crit buff's, action forward, ENERGY, and dmg%. (Bronyas lc further increases the dmg% to 50% or that MoC S5 light cone.)
im pulling for fugue for obvious break team reasons, but theres also alot of reasons not to pull for sunday atm:
-sunday's kit is meant for a brand new team theme, meaning unless u have jing yuan or want to meme with lingsha, that means you have to pull for Algaea, and potentially another sustainer or another support meant for remem.
-sunday's kit also doesnt explain if it does count ults like acheron and fei, so im assuming they wont synergize well
-since he only targets his buffs to one person, he's more niche of a support meant for hypercarry summons, dual dps def wont be as supported
-since summon meta will be a thing, he's way more likely to be re-run compared to fugue where they have overdone making break characters and she wont be around as likely (im guessing they will make more break characters, but more support on rappa or boothill or even a new element)
True! the only chars Sunday doesn't synergize well is Fei and acheron! But dw, he can work well outside summon/servant teams as well~ used as a support for other hypercarries (Jingliu, Danheng, Argenti, etc) as he is SP neutral to positive, 40flat energy regen, 100% aa, damage buff, crate, and cdmg buffs!
If you're truly break oriented might aswell get him in the future patches~ I heard amphoreus is going to be remembrance, des, and nihility meta ^^
@@ploppatartu5378Sunday actually synergises well with E2 Acheron, he can comfortably take Sparkles spot if you don't have her and by chance have E2 Acheron.
Don't lose of hop with skipping sunday bc as said Servants/ Summons inherited some of their Summoners stats(Well Idk if this is only for RMC)
@@ToVoMo Is he better than Bronya for SP consumption? Jiaoqiu dodge me before and I'm running E2S1 Acheron, E0S0 Fuxuan, Pela, E2S1 Bronya for most content, and no I'm not pursuing 0 cycle thing. I was thinking of getting Fugue because I have Aventurine and Fugue can boost him to debuff the enemies to add Acheron stacks. So the scenario would be like this
1. Acheron Fuxuan Pela Sunday
2. Acheron Aventurine Fugue Bronya
Which one do you think is better for my Acheron team?
or my original plan before all of these 3.0 drip marketing was getting E1 Firefly. Mine was E0S1 and yes I have Lingsha. Now I'm confused on what path to take lmao
I mean bro is doing better than E6 Sparkle at E0S1
My lord Sunday and his LC WILL be coming home but I feel like Fugue's gonna be nice for my Boothill too, esp the exotoughness combined with her toughness break implant getting rid of a lot of smaller mobs so he can build stacks whilst also focusing on a single target boss more.
Sorry, chicken wing boy, meta be damned, the foxian lady want to come home.
Hmm do I want the creepy little guy who tried to kidnap his sisters friends and got beat up or fucking tingyun 2.0 hard choice
Me too
@@Outerringfuelgod Exactly. People are forgetting he's summon only, and his character sucks.
Pulling for fugue and then waiting for a dedicated DoT support
People said Topaz’s follow-up support would be bad later on, which ended up a funny joke now.
Kafka also showed her DoT specialty early on. Everyone knew she would be essential for DoT going forward.
Sunday has a mechanic that is rare, while Fugue doesn’t. Even without the summon meta, him digging into that archetype is important. We definitely can’t skip him.
Exo Toughness?
Sometimes u can't predict which unit will be good moving forward or not, there are currently ass mechanism such as swolf plant weakness (bruh all unit got it in kit rn)
And blade drain hp doesn't get dedicated support yet as for now
I still feel stupid for pulling Jingliu and wasting pulls on Seele during 1.4
@@SamueL-td7fb Me too after i have fua and ffbreakteam i never pick her after that
Fugue is a must for break teams if you want to use RMC, superbreak enablers are rare. Sunday is not needed right now, you can wait for his rerun when you can actually make a summon team, you definitely CAN skip him
Nah, Sunday is a trap. We know from RMC's kit that dual dps Servant comps will be a thing, and Sunday's buffs are limited to ST.
Further, we know that there's a supposed nihility meta in 3.3/3.4. As the benefits of debuffs apply to the whole team, this indicates that the ideal comp could be something like (Servant main-dps, Servant sub-dps, Nihility, Sustainer).
Servant damage will also be added as a new attribute (like FuA, DoT, Skill, Ultimate, etc), so logic dictates that we'll at least get a unit that builds on this (e.g., Servant damage vulnerability).
Pull for Sunday if you want to have fun with the new toys early on, but I highly doubt he'll be the BiS option long-term (especially once the Fate collab hits in 3.5+).
Definitely going to aim for Sunday and Jing Yuan! Been really wanting Jing Yuan since I wasn’t able to get him during his last rerun and Sunday looks amazing as well! I really wanted to pull for Firefly too but I may have to skip her for the new characters coming up since they look absolutely amazing 🤩 😭
Already get firefly and her LC
But super break isnt my taste
Crit is more fun to me
Its time to get JY and sunday
Then running 2 General team Feixio team and JY team
Sunday is a must 3.0 is the summon meta and I can’t wait!
Cool analysis vid. Which one is more viable (i have e1 s0 firefly) tingyun 5* or ff lightcone?
The answer is super easy and is only one: Sunday. He is the enabler for the summon meta that we officially now remembrance is. Fugue is a sidegrade to HMC so she is the most easy skip of all time.
Until summon characters also start super breaking
@@boringfactor8792hmc?
I really hope Sunday means a new summon meta/archetype is incoming, because I need characters I can skip without feeling like I’m wasting opportunities, like I already do with DoT. Not every release being for Break or Follow Up is going to be great.
Absolutely Fugue
She isn't for Acheron, she's a break character
@scorpion-qk7rr she works for her though and makes her a break character
@@mika086 no she doesn't, Acheron is not a break character, Fugue is for rappa and boothill.
@scorpion-qk7rr ... man there are so many toxic players
@@mika086 ...man there are so many sensitive players
Lol i just simply told you Fugue is a break character and Acheron isn't, why are you offended by that?
From how I see it, Sunday's rerun is either gonna pair with another new archetype, a perfect pair for him, or reviving old archetypes (DOT, double dps, etc). So I'm thinking of solidifying Firefly and then embrace fully summon meta (unless they revive Dot team).
very excited to see what fuge can do in acheron teams. just turning your sustain into another debuff applier could make acheron ults really zoom,
For 2.7 my goals are sunday and fugue as well as one firefly so I can get her to E2. Considering my luck regarding pity and 50:50s recently I might just have to actually pay for jade packs for once. In any case, 3.X has some great characters. Really really excited for them so at least sunday is a must.
for someone who dont have RM or Lingsha is lingsha a good RM substitute instead of pela or should i just keep pela and change hmc?
man idk who to pull for. i want to get sunday but topaz is the only character i have with a summon, so i thought i should get jing yuan first to really make the most out of it, but with my limited warps, i doubt i'll get the both of them on the same patch. i also want to get fugue since i'm a nihility collector but i'm not sure if she's good for dot. i want to pull one last character before saving up for phainon and cyrene in 3.X patches 😭
I knew I was going to pull for Sunday back when the 2.0 special program showed him. I am a Topaz main, so having him for that team and doing a future Topaz, Sunday, RMC, + whatever future summon or additional FUA sustain we get is going to be my v3 team. Then, I just hope that I can not burn all my resources so I can get THE Herta in 3.0.
Hey, Guoba. I do hope you could expand on Sunday as a Bronya replacement in a Blade-Jade-Bronya team comp in the Sunday guide. Many thanks!
I feel like if I had started at a different time I would be more compelled by 2.7 units, but as it stands, I think I'm waiting for 3.0. When I started it was because I figured it'd be easier to get a decent FF if I started a little early, so I started towards the end of Aventurine's banner, pulled on FF for my first 5 star, and I've just pulled on the characters I thought best solved my issues with my account since. That's put me a little low but not completely drained going into 2.7 and needing some AoE DPS now that I've grabbed Aventurine from his rerun for my fua team. I don't think I can justify pulling Sunday with no characters to use him knowing it'll probably take everything I can throw at his banner, and Fugue is compelling, but I can let FF sit out an MoC if ReMC really is that good at that rotation. I've tried to think of my DPS as existing within the silos of their mechanics and element instead of just brute force everything and its worked so far.
As a e1s1 rappa main i gotta go for fugue even if its sad skipping the new meta for reruns
If I pull the other remembrance path characters but I don't have sunday but I use robin and RMC will I lose out alot of benefits or just the core buffs?
For me i am leaning towards fugue. I unfortunately failed Lingsha pull and dont have raun mei, but i got lucky with rappa and have been using her. So both fugue and the return of Gallagher willl help me out alot.
Cant wait to pull Fugue and try her with Rappa, Himeko and RM sustainless! Should be a blast!
I got E1 firefly right now, should i get e2 firefly or fugue? And does fugue really need her Sign Light Cone or not?
This upcoming patch is tight for f2ps lol
Personally ill just go for sunday to prepare for upcoming remembrance/summon meta. I initially plan to E2 FF or get fugue to upgrade superbreak team but man Aglaea got drip as a remembrance, now I had to pull sunday for her team
I really dont know what to do. I was planing to go for fugue for my break teams, they need an upgrade. I saw some leaks( dont know if they are true ) but of the characters i like none of them are of the new path so sunday can wait for now... I wonder if Herta would be a normal dps or break lol
My current limited 5 star roster is: Firefly, Boothill, Acheron, Feixiao, Robin, Ruan Mei, Jade, Aventurine (All E0) I also have E1 bronya and E1 Himeko.
Who should I pull for, Sunday or Fugue? Thank you!
Man. I'm still trying to figure out if I should be pulling for Aventurine to button up my follow-up team or if I'll regret having to skip parts of the inevitably strong Remembrance meta.
😮i missed the livestream and i just knew how much fugue offers
im for sure pulling for sunday for my jingyuan, but now idk if i should try pulling for sunday lc or jingyuan lc or fugue or firefly e1😩im being too greedy
I'm definitely pulling Sunday as an early investment for the Summon meta and for the Fate characters.
I REALLY wanted to pull Fugue but I only have FF for Super Break and HMC has me covered. I'll likely skip for now since I really want those Flamechaser Expys.
I think ill use my gaurenteed to get Sunday (Depends on his story in 2.7) then pray I get Fugue, not only do I love her design but I love her new voice and animations! I also do plan on getting Boothill in the future (I alwo have Rappa)
Looking at my Jades I think I'll be able to get both of them.
Sunday's kit is just too interesting to me and I adore Fugue's design (I've also invested in Break teams so I'd like a non HMC option for super break).
So I'm pulling both for meta with Sunday and for fun with Fugue.
It will make jades tight for 3.0 though so we'll see if I'm able to grab Aglaea since I certainly want her but I think I'd rather make sure my current teams are doing well before I start going into a new playstyle.
Jing Yuan main since he dropped, of course I'm gonna go for e1s1 Sunday. I am f2p and usually never go past e0s0, but I'd do anything for my wife.
I am a bit tempted by Fugue... she's pretty and she'd be great for some units I use a lot (BH, Himeko, Xueyi) but I want to save for the new people of 3.0! Eyepatch dude looks very cool. AND I'm still waititng for that Balde buff... trust...
Guoba my friend, question do you look at or study leaks?
Also, I naturally love summons so remembrance path and Amphoreus bout to be lit. 100% E6 Sunday and E1 or E2 Tingyun.
If I only have blade as my Main dps and pela as my support and thinking about getting bailu as a healer when we get the free 5 star pick, is it smart to get Sunday? I just downloaded the game after months of not playing.
I’m determined. I’ve waited months for Sunday to come. Nothing will change my mind especially since he will also make one of my favourite ever characters Jing Yuan better. Double the value 😊
If the RNG gods are merciful with my jades, Fugue looks interesting as well.
Is sunday worth it as someone with ruan mei, bronya + sparkle but no jiaoqiu or robin? i know robin is extremely strong but I dont know if shes just been utility crept or not...
I'm a crime twink and foxian fan, this is the patch made for me! I'm going to be pulling for both!