It helps to kill the summons first before breaking the Boss it wont be optimal to focus on the boss cause the boss will transfer the weak element to summons and the damage is lower if there are summons on the field, the only way to get the element weakness is to eliminate the summons first. Your damage will be doubled once the summons are eliminated. That's how I 3 star mine. Focus on Gepard and the Ice pillars first once dead go break the boss to reset Ults and it's enough to whole shot combo the boss to zero health. Same goes for Argenti's, he will summon his pillars twice. He will eventually suck in his first wave of pillars so you don't need to go ham on that first wave you focus on eliminating the second wave, once Argenti is alone break his toughness to reset Ults and it will be easier to kill him with Dr. Ratio. This challenge mode actually force you to read and understand the boss fight mechanics more than the other challenge modes.
i think its just the right amount of difficulty. it rewards understanding game mechanics and good team building, and is much more involved than MoC, which has honestly gotten boring. plus its nice to have a goal for my account rather than just pulling for the sake of pulling
@@Internextion Even the biggest CCs with whale investment say that the current development is very problematic by how extremely it favours the newest unit. My BH can 0 cycle and still only got 3400 points second half, that is a massive problem in my opinion
I could probably clear 6600 on second half of the hardest difficulty but I cbf’d lmao Current record is 5500. First half Firefly/Fu Xuan/Trailblazer/Ruan Mei Second half I meme’d w/ Ratio/Aventurine/Topaz/Himeko Game mode filters out the illiterate, that’s for sure lmao
@@toufusoup 5500 score? That's not even close to clearing. Every 100 AV (score) is equivalent to 1 Cycle in MoC equivalent. You're behind by 1100 AV (score), which is equivalent to 11 full cycles, MoC equivalent. To put things into perspective, you are taking extra 11 actions PER CHARACTER, at their base speed. Way more if u include SPD and Action Advance. Thats at least 44 extra moves compared to anyone who cleared at 6600 points, which is the minimum requirement for a full 3 star clear. In MoC equivalent, assuming 6600 score = 10 Cycle clear. In this case, you took 21 full cycles to clear it. That's a 1 star MoC clear (assuming no one died) Considering that you're even using Firefly, in which the new mode was fully tailored to her, that score is pretty damn bad ngl. Dont even get me started on the fact that she's E2S1. Go test the run once again, then you'll figure out how "close" you are to actually clearing it, rather than basing it on a random assumption that you "could" clear it and saying others are illiterate for it. Your current score shows that you're among the "illiterates" who were actually filtered out by the game mode, lmao.
@@munkit99Christ bro relax lmfao I didn’t realize someone could be so seemingly called out/personally offended by some text but I guess I didn’t know your life story on how you ripped apart 3 bears every morning to learn the alphabet as a kid or something, sorry my guy Notice though how nowhere did I mention how well my 2nd half team was built, which would’ve added a decent amount of context, but this info is only something Vulpes and a few others know, gotta leave a comment for the homies’ interaction First half with Firefly I scored around 3.5K, which should be the case. No denying it, E2S1 Firefly does E2S1 Firefly things. The second half I got a little over 2.1K operating on mostly 7/10-traced units, and I tried to go through Stages 1-4 using the exact same lineup, without swapping anything up or restarting. I’ll be giving it a go if I feel like sitting in front of Star Rail for another extended period of time. Edit: Just gave it a try just now, scored 3.7K first half, 2.7K second half, total score 6.4K, only swapped out Himeko with Welt, who's equally as half-built. 6.6K reachable if I bother to level/gear up some other units seems like. So, yes, point still stands, this game mode filters the illiterate, especially those who try only attacking the boss and complain that they do negligible damage when the game literally throws into their faces “ay breh the enemies are altered, attack other things, hitting the boss without toughness break does nothing” which, judging from comments sections I’ve seen, is more prevalent than one would believe
gallagher is a great option, if you cant run him, then swap out robin or topaz (preferably topaz) for pela, then run any sustain (preferably luocha or huohuo)
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I WAS ABLE TO CLEAR THE FIRST NODE WITH THAT DOUBLE FIRE TEAM THANKS 😭🙏
Shit is way too difficult, lol. Just crazy how they want to push vertical investment
It helps to kill the summons first before breaking the Boss it wont be optimal to focus on the boss cause the boss will transfer the weak element to summons and the damage is lower if there are summons on the field, the only way to get the element weakness is to eliminate the summons first. Your damage will be doubled once the summons are eliminated. That's how I 3 star mine. Focus on Gepard and the Ice pillars first once dead go break the boss to reset Ults and it's enough to whole shot combo the boss to zero health. Same goes for Argenti's, he will summon his pillars twice. He will eventually suck in his first wave of pillars so you don't need to go ham on that first wave you focus on eliminating the second wave, once Argenti is alone break his toughness to reset Ults and it will be easier to kill him with Dr. Ratio. This challenge mode actually force you to read and understand the boss fight mechanics more than the other challenge modes.
Right
actually its doable wirth f2p standard, but we have to read and go around boss mechanic.
i think its just the right amount of difficulty. it rewards understanding game mechanics and good team building, and is much more involved than MoC, which has honestly gotten boring. plus its nice to have a goal for my account rather than just pulling for the sake of pulling
@@Internextion Even the biggest CCs with whale investment say that the current development is very problematic by how extremely it favours the newest unit. My BH can 0 cycle and still only got 3400 points second half, that is a massive problem in my opinion
man when that robin re run comes out my account finna sky rocket
i just brute forced side one with Ratio and used my cracked 10 effective substats 2p2p Boothill with a 4* Rope to kill Argenti.
I could probably clear 6600 on second half of the hardest difficulty but I cbf’d lmao
Current record is 5500.
First half Firefly/Fu Xuan/Trailblazer/Ruan Mei
Second half I meme’d w/ Ratio/Aventurine/Topaz/Himeko
Game mode filters out the illiterate, that’s for sure lmao
surprising how only a single unit change on both teams is enough to make your teams great
@@Internextionyes, I know.. wait.. firefly second half..?
@@toufusoup not at all
@@toufusoup 5500 score? That's not even close to clearing.
Every 100 AV (score) is equivalent to 1 Cycle in MoC equivalent. You're behind by 1100 AV (score), which is equivalent to 11 full cycles, MoC equivalent.
To put things into perspective, you are taking extra 11 actions PER CHARACTER, at their base speed. Way more if u include SPD and Action Advance.
Thats at least 44 extra moves compared to anyone who cleared at 6600 points, which is the minimum requirement for a full 3 star clear.
In MoC equivalent, assuming 6600 score = 10 Cycle clear.
In this case, you took 21 full cycles to clear it. That's a 1 star MoC clear (assuming no one died)
Considering that you're even using Firefly, in which the new mode was fully tailored to her, that score is pretty damn bad ngl.
Dont even get me started on the fact that she's E2S1.
Go test the run once again, then you'll figure out how "close" you are to actually clearing it, rather than basing it on a random assumption that you "could" clear it and saying others are illiterate for it.
Your current score shows that you're among the "illiterates" who were actually filtered out by the game mode, lmao.
@@munkit99Christ bro relax lmfao I didn’t realize someone could be so seemingly called out/personally offended by some text but I guess I didn’t know your life story on how you ripped apart 3 bears every morning to learn the alphabet as a kid or something, sorry my guy
Notice though how nowhere did I mention how well my 2nd half team was built, which would’ve added a decent amount of context, but this info is only something Vulpes and a few others know, gotta leave a comment for the homies’ interaction
First half with Firefly I scored around 3.5K, which should be the case. No denying it, E2S1 Firefly does E2S1 Firefly things. The second half I got a little over 2.1K operating on mostly 7/10-traced units, and I tried to go through Stages 1-4 using the exact same lineup, without swapping anything up or restarting. I’ll be giving it a go if I feel like sitting in front of Star Rail for another extended period of time.
Edit: Just gave it a try just now, scored 3.7K first half, 2.7K second half, total score 6.4K, only swapped out Himeko with Welt, who's equally as half-built. 6.6K reachable if I bother to level/gear up some other units seems like.
So, yes, point still stands, this game mode filters the illiterate, especially those who try only attacking the boss and complain that they do negligible damage when the game literally throws into their faces “ay breh the enemies are altered, attack other things, hitting the boss without toughness break does nothing” which, judging from comments sections I’ve seen, is more prevalent than one would believe
Thank you for this vid! Build my acheron team like yours and got enough points 😊
I don't even have a chance to attack, cocolia get me dead before my turn
best advice i can give is to level characters and light cones, get any hp and def traces, and fully level your relic main stats ig
Cocolia and gepard has high speed probably your builds are below 40 spd or lower.
its like imposible to break gepard quickly when he does the sheild if your using acheron
during one run i was able to kill him before he shieldied but i havent been able to recreate it 😭ive just accepted that i have to waste an ult
I have everyone on the second team except aven, what shoould i do
gallagher is a great option, if you cant run him, then swap out robin or topaz (preferably topaz) for pela, then run any sustain (preferably luocha or huohuo)
I beated it, but i didn't know how i did ...😅