Jaishankar, Prince Faisal, Stephen Harper, Margrethe Vestager & Meghan O’Sullivan On New World Order
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- Опубліковано 19 лют 2024
- The Observer Research Foundation, in partnership with ORF America, Ministry of External Affairs, India, and the Embassy of India in Berlin, was delighted to host a ministerial lunch discussion at the Munich Security Conference 2024.
Vishwa Mitra: Bridging Divides
The rise of the countries of the global south have had profound impact on political arrangements of the past. Strategic approaches are being rewritten as countries, large and small, take into account a world in which new centres of power are a reality. The Great Game is no longer the preserve of a few. This panel will discuss the alignments, realignments, and mis-alignments that define global cooperation and national security in this new multipolar age.
Speakers:
H.H. Prince Faisal bin Farhad Al Saud, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Saudi Arabia
H.E. Mr. Stephen Harper, Former Prime Minister, Canada
H.E. Ms. Margrethe Vestager, Executive Vice President of the European Commission for a Europe Fit for the Digital Age
Dr. Meghan O’Sullivan, Director, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard Kennedy School, United States
H.E. Dr. S. Jaishankar, External Affairs Minister, India
Moderator: Samir Saran, President, ORF
Opening Remarks: Amb. Parvathaneni Harish, Ambassador of India to the Federal Republic of Germany
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Prince Faisal was great. Grt to see pragmatic level headed ppl heading middle East regions. Cheers from India.
He was superb the way he shut down the all talks and no work climate propaganda of west was as impressive as jaishankar sir .
The west using climate change as a tool to prevent developing nations grow.
They want to apply the same rules they have in their own developed countries where per capita emissions is several times higher and the per capita income is several times higher.
You rich people can afford solar panel electric cars and all eco friendly alternatives but yet we don't see any changes in emission level from West .
The poor nation can't afford all these technologies and need aid to adopt them . West don't want to provide financial aid to them as stated here and they are also not happy with developing nations helping Africa either.
The so called middle powers are actually doing the heavy lifting. They are developing fast , they are trying their best to keep the emission as low as they can by investing in technology as they grow and at the same time are able to help their brother countries to adopt the eco friendly technologies who are in need .
They are also ready to help each other even in times like COVID when west completely ignored others .
Stop using the term middle power they are the real Power when it comes to humanity.
West has started listening to India and middle East because this century is going to be ours , next century will be of Africans. We are going towards a world where everyone is developed and lives a better life . In that world you don't want one country having all the power because no one will accept that .
Prince Faisal is just brilliant , he remind me of adil aljubier i think that's his name both are saudi ministers and amazing
"Great power compitition is not bad , great power coalition is bad "...--Dr S jayshankar..🥶
It was the best line in whole debate
bhai pel diya Jay bhai ne un dono lady ko ye bol k 😂
Our EAM is teaching us daily that not only saying yes sir is the communication skill but being assertive when required is also a prime element of communication and interpersonal skills.
Climate change
Canada sent containers of used plastics to the Philippines to recycle!!! So locals can breathe toxic air!
Canada burn toxic oil tar sand in Athabasca to distory climate
On pandemic - hoard 100 million. Vaccine and when not used . Throw them while millions in Africa begged for vacation!
Climate change and rule based world order!!!!
@@kapilhere_which institution or course teaches saying 'yes sir' is an effective means of communication?
I'm quite intrigued by this.
Dr. Jaishankar gave succinct and clear rebuttal to former Canadian PM sitting beside him, who believed in the rigid way of dealing with international issues.
His past is different from our past.
Timeline
"I will come to that" 😂
34:56
Our EAM and HH Faizal were holding their own among the bullies. And of Global South doesn't make sense, so does not NATO. How about that?
What Mr. Jaishankar said long back "the problem of the EU n west is everybody's problem, but the problem of the global South does not concern the EU n the West. " holds true here.
To the panellists (basically from the first world) who disagreed with Minister Jaishankar on his point about smaller groupings, there was a global framework - the U.N. but it is dead. They had other smaller groupings themselves, the NATO, G7 etc. that was always self-serving for the same actors. But they object that if others do it, it will lead to more chaos. How can the fifth largest economy, the largest democracy and the most populous country not have a permanent seat? How can two continents not have a permanent seat? Unless there is a reform, which they are loathe to, this is the new reality.
Yes you are right.
Hypocrisy of the west continues... They will hopefully change their tune when they are non dominant actors in the new global order.
Sounds about right. They should reform the Global institutions if they are worried or else see Countries in the middle east and China destroy the world
UN dosen't show logic if largest population don't have permanent seat.
Dr Jaishankar and Prince Faisal made more sense to me than others.
So it made to “Global South”. If you have it inside you, you know it!
“Global south” has become an intimidating word for the west.
Prince and Jaishankar echoing almost the same views shows the closeness of their ‘partnership’
Jugal bandi chal rahi thi😂 this shows how these 2 country are aligned on geopolitical issues
HE Minister Jaishankar and HH Prince Faisal reflect a common strategic understanding of the upcoming World Order
Climate change
Canada sent containers of used plastics to the Philippines to recycle!!! So locals can breathe toxic air!
Canada burn toxic oil tar sand in Athabasca to distory climate
On pandemic - hoard 100 million. Vaccine and when not used . Throw them while millions in Africa begged for vacation!
Climate change and rule based world order!!!!
It is great to see Prince Faisal articulating his views. Jaishankar as usual was brilliant. The rest of panelist have clearly missed the boat.... They cannot see the writings on the wall!
S Jaishankar...total foreign affairs masterclass.
Mr Jaishankar never fails to wow 🤩prince Faisal was good too, others 🙄
Dr Jaishankar was struggling.
Climate change
Canada sent containers of used plastics to the Philippines to recycle!!! So locals can breathe toxic air!
Canada burn toxic oil tar sand in Athabasca to distory climate
On pandemic - hoard 100 million. Vaccine and when not used . Throw them while millions in Africa begged for vacation!
Climate change and rule based world order!!!!
@@samirlg5 Lol he destroy argument of both the lady and construct of the former PM
@@samirlg5Can you give the aspects and points where he was struggling?
He/she is just a bot
wonderful discussion dominated by Dr Jaishankar, as usual
He wasn't allowed to speak that much. I guess they wanted to hear the bullies' side
He wasn't allowed to speak that much. I guess they wanted to hear the bullies' side
Prince Faisal was Great, bring him Delhi :)
Interesting that the ‘Great Powers’ of the 1945 era, and its poodle Canada, would love to cling on to their special privileges for ever! Good on you KSA to join the Southern challenge 👍
Canada does not understand its real potential... Its leaders are happy to remain the lap dog of US. 😂😊
world needs this discussions glad to hear the views of prince and jaishankar
No one noticed awesome line by sameer :- "l hope you are not referring to United Stated when you mentioned dangerous people with nuclear weapons"😂😅😂😅😂😅
Even fellas in background were laughing and hiding their smile.
😂😮😅😅
That line was gold! 😂
Timestamp?@@ht9569
Time stamp?
Exactly 😂
49:00
@@dhimankalita1690
I would say the presence of mind Dr. S Jaishankar has, and the way he answered all the questions politely is just wow. I mean why west thinks there issues are the only issues in this world. there are many countries which had been ignored for years. now we can say that there is India who noticed Africa . and it's good. And Prince Faisal talk about the honesty and transparency which is really needed in this era.👌At last i'll say i really enjoyed this conference.
great maoment and wonderful discussion dominated by our hero Dr Ja ishankar, as usual
Prince Faisal , you are erudite about the worlds issues, ❤️Saudi Arabia and Indias point of views , realistic!
Saudi has done well to have intelligent people as their leaders unlike many others !!
What a splendid debate it was. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Now thats real information,keep up the good work👍.
Love Bharat i.e India🙏.
49:53 Samir killed it😂
USA and the EU spokespersons see the writing on the wall; but refuse to acknowledge. The Canadian as usual is confused like their Justin.😢
Best debate this year till now😊
Mr Jai and Mr Faisal. Awesome input.
India Germany Japan Brazil should become a permanent member of UNSC 😊😊😊😊😊
To start the ball rolling let the world’s most populous nation and the largest democracy be made a Member 🙏🏼
@@gopalramanathan7062 agree 💯💯💯💯
I mean no offence, but I feel Japan does not really add any value to UNSC given that is already an ally of US, and doesn't have a history of raising an independent voice on global stage. It always just silently goes with whatever US says and decides.
UNSC should have members who can voice opinions and act independently.
You are forgetting Africa, we should have some major countries from that region join in as well, if we are serious about being equal.
Every geographical region needs a representative in-fact, if you wish for true global reflection and connectivity.
And yes to Brazil, but not just Brazil. But also other South American countries.
Nor does germany.Only brazil and another country from africa needed.@@kunti_putra
Well said, Mr Harper. You are the only one who gets it
Coloniser are sitting with colonies and telling them accept us as superios and jai shankar ji telling them your time is Up 😂😂😂😂😂
😂
Meanwhile Rishi sunak hi Vijay mama😂😂
That day has come, finally!
This was such a good discussion. Less agreeing more discussion. More of this. If this is curtain raiser, high hopes from Raisina 🤟🏽🤟🏽
Jaishankar & Faisal.... Have clear agenda that...... We r developing bright spot... No one can ignore us and multipolar societies 🙏🙏
The north-south divide in the world clearly reflected in this panel, where you had Dr.Jaishankar and Prince Faisal on one side supporting multipolar order and other side former Canadian PM Harper, an American and an European women lecturing that global south will create chaos if allowed to govern global order.
Obviously 😊 because north is colonialist globalist power with there order
The Saudi foreign minister surprised me with his pragmatic approach ,sync.with current global scenario and fairly good knowledge of the current status globally.
A unipolar world with US as the big Dog helps West to remain/retain/think superior. A multipolar world is chaotic and especially, as per the West bad for Africa. So moral of the story we should have a multipolar world, because it will really help everybody and WILL really help Africa. And believe me it helps the west to give them a relief from their constipation due to EGO...
Its good debate !!
Jaishankar amd Faisal made good points. Wonderful discussion
The far left lady said how would the new order solve the global problems.... I mean, those problems arose during the OLD order right 😂
The old order cannot solve problems - they only create problems and then spread it around
One of the best insights into the nature of AI by Ms Vestager when she said that it takes the prevailing biases and entrenches them. This is an appalling proposition that reduces humans to zombies.
Great debate. The old order is inevitably collapsing & the time is ripe for middle powers to extract as much as possible. The fruits of success must be for all, not for a select few.
The order is collpasing but Indians shit in the streets and the USA grew its GDP by 30% in the last 5 years. Make it make sense
FM Jaishankar and Prince Faisal made sense, as expected. Others were either beating around the bush (the Canadian ex PM), or being ignorant of the present (the ladies). Jaishankar I already like, call me a biased Indian, but I really wanted Prince Faisal to open up more.
Great.Samir;
Must conduct regular Dialogues like this with all international Leaders; Intellectuals; Decision making personalities;
Leaders;
expose the serious Situation.
I strongly resent that, for the longest time, the camera was not focussed on Mr Harper when he spoke…as a result, his critical point of futility of trying for an international coalition when general consensus doesn’t exist about many issues within major countries..
2. Jaishankar was frank and dismissive of airheads as usual…
3. Prince Faisal was very clear and precise about rule of few through regulatory frameworks..
4. EU beating stick of “climate change” is all-encompassing without any real solutions…
The smile on the face of Prince Faisal at 35:06 😄😄😄
Have you seen his greatest smile after the host mentioned about US being the most dangerous with nuclear weapons at 49:48?
This was brilliant. Excellent job Samir
The two ladies didn't add anything except climate change😂. Yes that's what concerns the most to ppl sitting in South Asia Or Africa.
Thier contribution to the Global Woke
Stephan Harper in the cabinet is a move to turn the table around. Giving space to conservative party of Canada is a way to counter terrorist promotion in canda.
Separatism ,Drugs & Asylum system is well nourished or misused in conservative party and it's even worst under liberal government's
All these political parties in Canada are always against India
Canada is used by its neighbour
Mr. Sameer :- I hope you are not referring to USA when you mentioned dangerous people with nuclear weapons 😂😂😂
Quote-Unquote 😛😂
I like Jaishankar and Prince Faisal
That lesson at 35:00 by Jaishankar to Ladies and the agreement by Arabian minister 😂
very true and quotable comments
About a year or more back the talk was westlessness.
Now the term being used is being non-west does not mean anti-west.
Diplomacy definately works.
Impressive is the word for HE Prince Faisal. Clear straight and specific. But very politely.
Being an Indian obviously EAM Jaishankar is my hero of the day.
Very impressive Saudi FM...canadian guy is canadian (pun intended😂), brash arrogant american feeling threatened, righteous german, unapologetic jai..great talk
Their time is up😂
Well I love this forum as everyone is free to speak their minds without others getting offended...😊🙏
Nice job..
49:53 that was harsh though 😮
Interesting discussion between some great personalities on the panel. Change has to happen for a new world order that is more representative. Thank you 😊 🙏
Thank God its Samir Saran Conducting the session and not the Clown Sunjoy Joshi
Well done Jayshankar for being the voice of billions of people. Proud of you and inspired by your thoughts.
summary: EU and USA are not keen on change and don't want to give too much power and importance to countries like India and Saudi. It's in their interest to hold as many cards as possible and other countries, particularly strong ones like India, with as few as possible
Climate change
Canada sent containers of used plastics to the Philippines to recycle!!! So locals can breathe toxic air!
Canada burn toxic oil tar sand in Athabasca to distory climate
On pandemic - hoard 100 million. Vaccine and when not used . Throw them while millions in Africa begged for vacation!
Climate change and rule based world order!!!!
Excellent debate! Jaishankar so smartly puts across his points! Makes the opposition speechless!
This is an excellent work being done by ORF.
THIS FURTHERS DISCOURSE ON GLOBAL ISSUES TO even common areas of our life.
At about 50.” Sameer Stripped United States in Broad Day Light.
I am here only for S Jaishankar, MEA India
Three Words - High Quality Discussion
A resourceful discussion which should take place widely.
36:54 i guess the whole video is not here. Where is EAM reply?
The former Canadian PM’s body language while Dr SJS talked is very telling.
That's good discussion for global South
The eloquence and clarity of thought of Prince Faisal is really impressive.
Awesome. Im going to watch that again.
Global south has the resources and market , global north colonisation , exploitation and exclusion.
Non-west groups doesn’t mean anti-west. Countries have different sizes, economies, systems and geographical boundaries, one solution doesn’t fit all. A multipolar world in which cooperation with each other is the way forward I thinks.
36:49 Dr. Jaishankar was about to address the same point😄, that of Colonialism.
Jaishankar brings substance to the table .
34:57 daamnn 🗿🗿🗿🗿 the comeback
It's always a pleasure to watch ORF events.
Absolutely awesome deliberations, language, thoughts, standpoints and outcomes 💐. Congratulations ORF for doing a great cerebral interaction.
We are here for Dr S jayshankar. Jay Hind.
I salute to jai Sankar sir ❤❤
Very good discussion. A much needed discussion. There will always be disagreements and overarching narratives around, but it is important to discuss them to derive better conclusion and agreement that serve well for humanity.
Europe is all talk but when it comes to doing , we all know how the champions of freedom , humanity and democracy treated Africa and poor countries when it came to sharing Covid vaccines
So many of the folks attending the session are checking phones while the speakers are sharing their perspectives.
Un-attention induced by phone is the new pandemic
Good discussion....
35:07 that look of deep agreement, by Saudi FM :)
What a beautiful place to have a conversation like this...
really great discussion
Amazing conversation 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Jai sriram jaihind
Good discussion।
35:06 Prince Faisal is "Yupp, you said it Jai bro!!"
Nobody gives Mr. Samir his due credit for bringing all this together and knowing every single person in the audience, this small or the big ones in other panel discussions, at personal level...So, here I am, Salut, Bravo Mr. Samir, you are doing an amazing job at bringing people from around the world together.
He's the unofficial foreign secretary of India. Very influential to say the least.
49:53 Samir nailed it. The west doesn't want to lose that superiority complex it seems. Them preferring a unipolar dictatorial superpower while being democracies is kinda crazy.
INDIA;
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be it in Governance; ( GOVERNMENT ) Banking;Economy;
Health; Pharmaceuticals.
Entertainment;
Understand the essence of vedas. Science is concurring with Vedas. Don't run like hare towards destruction. Go slow like tortoise. Enjoy the journey. Live in Harmony with universe. Create universal bliss. Follow India.
What a cool debate! Jaishankar was razor sharp and great rebuttals. Samir could have managed it better, he didn't allow Jaishankar to come in twice.
Dr Jaishankar's insight and vision is very clear and logical..... he is really a power wisdom.... others also contributed a large and valuable opinion and vision under own perspectives.
Agree with comments below. BUT ALSO, I think we missed some more gems from Hon. Minister Dr. Jaishankar (roughly 36:00 to 38.30) when he wanted to respond to -
1. PM Harper's point of relative stability in a period "from end of Napoleonic World to WW1; when great powers avoided conflict" & actually rebut/dismantle the argument
2. How Colonialism somehow was a Bounty which Western Powers 'awarded themselves'
Time paucity didn't let him 😒
India at $2.5T GDP? It's more like $4T
Ignore buddy, Africa wants more power to itself and at same time feels a bit jealous of India that India has so much more global influence and they dont.
How the mighty have fallen.
Classic example of if talent doesn't work hard, hard work will beat talent.
Dr. Jaishankar speaks facts.....
ORF is doing good making these debates 👍👍
Dr JaiShanker is doing great work for India
I always enjoy listening participating ORF guests. Topics and views shared by participants representatives makes interesting to listen how policies are and where there headwinds.
It also highlights arrogant attitude of certain countries where they admire new powers and criticise because they do not drive their agenda.
I think that mindset currently going through huge stress but as new powers like China, India, Saudi Arabia, South Korea outshines more on global stage this views will get torque ful slap.
South korea is a dead nation with near zero birth rates😂