Can we acknowledge how awesome Dan is; just an ordinary guy who falls for a girl who gets dragged into the crazy escapades with her ex-boyfriend and his symbiote soulmate/boyfriend. Like Annie is coming around to Venom and is willing to do anything to help Eddie but Dan took some time which is understandable. Most boyfriends would either run for the hills or be in league with the villain but Dan's just a genuinely nice guy who is just there to help and support Annie and since Annie cares about Eddie or Venom; he does too.
Yes! Thank you! No love triangle bull crap here. And it’s cool that Eddie does appreciate and actually roots for Dan here. Venom took some time, but he’s warming up.
Dan in 1 won me over to the movies. His girl's ex shows up in a fancy diner, asks for live food, heads into the lobster tank then bites the lobster's head off? Lie that he's his patient, get him to a hospital, and then try to treat him himself. Dan got treated kindly, everyone likes Ann and she gets to make her own romantic decisions and be apart of the plot. It's really nice.
I think there's some hidden depth to Venom destroying Eddie's bike: earlier when Anne told Eddie she was enganged to Dan, Eddie almost tried to get himself run over in his bike. Venom was trying to keep Eddie from potentially trying that again now that they were separated since Venom would not be able to save him if he did.
Exactly. So many people missed this. Was like venom still protecting him from himself despite not being there. Loved this movie cuz it centers on their relationship issues from the last movie. Tired of happy ever after when we all know it won’t work like that. So glad we see their struggles to still get along despite getting used to each other from the last film.
I too can space ships. I space ships and also motorcycles some time of. If of ever the yes is to follow in follows then space shipsing is me through through through!
The only thing I’m really sad about was Tom Hardy’s Venom was supposed to be in No way home, but couldn’t for schedule reasons. I’d have loved to see Eddie’s and Venom’s reactions/interactions with the characters. They left it open for a symbiote to be in MCU Spider-Man, but it won’t be with Hardy which is a real shame. Well maybe we’ll get that crossover with Garfield someday.
That’s what I’m hoping for. They were going to do more Amazing Spider-Man but they stopped because the MCU Spider-Man was coming. After the phenomenal success of No Way Home, I think that proves that people love Spider-Man and love Andrew Garfield. They can absolutely have two separate Spider-Man franchises going on, especially since they’ve established the multiverse and crossed over. There’s also nothing really in either movie that says ASM and Venom can’t be from the same universe, especially since it seems Sony’s building their own Marvel cinematic universe. Venom is in San Francisco and Spider-Man was in New York so they just never crossed paths yet. They could also set it around when Andrew/Peter said he “stopped pulling his punches” after Gwen, and would be a perfect opportunity to introduce Venom and have a darker (possibly even R??) Spider-Man movie. That would kinda be awesome. Finally in NWH, the fact that all the villains pulled were from the same universes as the Spider-Men that were pulled actually implies that Venom is in fact from the same universe as Andrew Garfield. (The only reason he wasn’t there was because he wasn’t in New York at the time, he was in Mexico. By the time he figured it out and got the story straight he was getting sent back so he never got a chance to go find Spider-Man like Venom wanted. But part of him was left behind, so…)
I mean, I don't think we should discount Hardy's venom from showing up in the mainline MCU just because he wasn't in that movie. With the fact that he CAN cross the timelines established, it would make it much easier for him to show up in other movies now.
@@t.c.9917 He WAS in No Way Home, in the post-credit scene (same way he showed up in the MCU at the end of this film). He was in the MCU for the events of the movie but spent the whole time in a hotel somewhere drinking and catching up with the new world's events. He gets returned to his universe almost immediately, but not before leaving a piece of the Venom symbiote behind. Venom is coming to the MCU, but it's far more likely that they're recasting Eddie Brock to fit the MCU rather than continuing with the Tom Hardy timeline (which feels like it fits in more with the crappy early 2000s Marvel licensed films more than it does the MCU anyway).
I honestly love the Venom movies, they're just a lot of fun, the fight scenes are cool and Tom Hardy arguing/flirting with an alien goo monster who is also Tom Hardy is great.
Normally Carnage and Kletus are more symbiotic than Venom and Eddie, but I understand why this movie made them not be symbiotic. If Carnage and Kletus were as symbiotic as usual, Venom and Eddie would not have any chance of winning. It usually takes Venom and Spiderman working together to defeat Carnage, but this Universe doesn't have Spiderman, as far as we know.
there is a spiderman as far as i know since in morbius' trailer at 2:10 there was a spiderman grafitti on the wall, obviously they havent established a narrative with him yet but the concept of spiderman exists in the sony venom universe
cleetus will come back somehow and it will be a rebirth via symbiote maybe and he will be like best friend and he won't have the sonic as a weakness as his weakness is only fire.
Also I love that they leaned even more into the romcom for this. Like you said the Eddie/Venom relationship is definitely the best part of these movies. I do wish they’d pull a Deadpool and just let the movies be R rated and stop nerfing the violence, clearly that type of movie can be successful.
Can I just say that I genuinely loved the relationship between Woody Harrelson's character and his boo? They loved and understood the heck out of one another. I was actually rooting for them to be able to stay together, so I was legit sad when first Carnage hurt her, and then Venom offed her. To me, their relationship was a villain love story I could get behind. It was like everything that the Joker/Harley Quinn romance *isn't.* Loving, protective yet respectful, mutually admiring, equals. This movie about popular Spiderman villains had TWO great love stories! 😍
Same! They had a better relationship than all the heroes imo. The actors are close irl too. Naomie posted a behind the scene clip where Woody was singing to & dancing with her. They also played lovers in another film. She got hurt in a car accident during filming & Woody let her live with him & his wife until she healed enough to travel back home.
@@cryptidnip they're entertaining movies but that doesn't mean it's a 10/10 perfect flawless of a movie right? I mean you look at The Dark Knight or Logan, both are entertaining superhero movie but also a perfect 10/10 masterpiece of a superhero movie with great character work, brilliant action, story that's great and incredible arcs for everyone involved, that's what a movie really needs, not just some mindless action sequences with forgettable characters. You don't need to be Oscar worthy to make a great movie. Hitchcock never won an Oscar but he still made many greatest movies of all time
Yeah but that doesn't mean it's a 10/10 perfect flawless masterpiece of a movie whatsoever. It still needed to be judge for its writing, technical aspect all that stuff. It was still a very rushed movie anyways despite the good performance from Tom Hardy. I barely remember anything remarkable about the movie because it just felt too rushed and unfortunately the action scenes were a bit shaky to understand
I love venom with all my heart but the main problem i had with the second installment is there are alot of times the cgi feels off or rushed same for the story, still a good movie tho
I enjoyed watching it but you could tell they cut a lot of stuff. The story is rather barebones and could've done with twentyish more minutes to flesh out characterizations. Especially for Shriek. As it stands she fails the Sexy Lamp Test imo.
I can’t believe you didn’t win the best line in the film. “Marriage troubles? Already???” Is the funniest thing I’ve heard for so long. It’s ridiculous. My best friend and I love to hate these films and think they’re comedy gold so when that line hit us in theatres we howled for what felt like hours
I find it very interesting that they kinda failed to do this key element of cletus and carnage. See with venom and Eddie they always say “we,” while they are very close they still have their separate personalities (although the actual symbiote has never before had so much of a clear cut personality ( it was always evilish looking black goo. Not the best damn buddy a guy could ask for... any why. But with the carnage and cletus. It’s almost always been “I” with them. Their personalities match so much they kind forget they are two different beings
I just love how Andy Serkis directed Woody when he and him acted together in War for the Planet of the Apes… and that they became such good friends on War that Woody wanted Andy to voice Carnage but Andy convinced him to do the voice himself. I hope they keep making movies together.
The one thing that bothered me is the fact that Carnage's whole thing is that he has perfect symbiosis to the point of essentially being a singular being, whereas Venom is always separate from his hosts. That and him being a bigger, monstrous version of Venom, tongue and all. I like the fact that Carnage in the comics is smaller and slimmer, but still more deadly in spite of that. That said, the changes they made to his character served the story being told about Eddie and Venom so I can't really complain because it's solid storytelling. Overall, it was a fun movie. They doubled down on the parts that actually worked in the original and it has a much more consistent tone because of it.
I wasn't huge on the first bit I really enjoyed this one. Really liked the physical humour that Ton Hardy brought, really liked Woody Harelson, it felt like he was having fun in the role. Loved the little simz cameo. The sound design deserves special mention, that prison break out scene especially was brilliant in the cinema
That's gotta be Shang Chi when he was having breakfast at Katie's family! Super excited, there was so much passion behind the making of Shang Chi in all different facets
Honestly I hope NWH's post credits mean we'll get an actually comic accurate Venom in the MCU. That way Venom fans can get what they want and people who like these movies can keep them.
@@userious258 Yeah I'm not talking about him being a hero in these movies, I'm talking about how the Venom in these films is unrecognizable to any fan of Venom comics. Hardy's Eddie Brock acts nothing like Eddie from the comics, Venom is acting plain weird the entire time, and, oh yeah, *this Venom has never met Spider-Man.* Venom's entire character is built around his relationship with Spider-Man. By taking that away, you take away the essence of Venom. These movies aren't good because they're more concerned with marketing an easy to swallow action flick than they are with making a good Venom movie.
@@absolutecarnage777 That's your opinion though. I doubt the piece of Venom being left behind is going to be anything which was stupid like how did a piece get left. I doubt Sony would have a Venom or Eddie Brock then allow Marvel to do him at the same time.
13:19 This line hit so hard in theaters and just overall this movies sound design was on point! Literally shook the room, you felt like Venom and Carnage were in your heads when they weren’t visible, same with the music, just phenomenal
This uh... this film made me realize and come to grips with things about myself that I hadn't previously known. I loved it, Tom Hardy was amazing, Venom and Eddie are totally in love, how could you not win Venom literally saying he loves him????? And Woody Harrelson was creeptastic
loving someone doesn't automatically mean you're romantically interested in them, to me it seems like he says that more as a friend than a lover, they're just buddies that don't want to lose eachother.
Woody Harrelson apparently took a lot of inspiration in playing the character from Charles Harrelson, his dad, a known hitman. Charles Harrelson also killed a judge and at one point claimed to murder JFK. Woody visited him in prison a lot, and that's probably why his Kletus hit right.
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about how Eddie reacted with his bike when he found out Anne was engaged. It’s a real portrayal of how some ride with their emotions being in control, it’s further than I’ve gone. But it’s definitely happened in the past with similar situations.
I love how in the first movie its about being flexible, which we see in the riot fight where he has a lot of solid weapons to use. In this one it's about having a solid connection, shown how the enemy is very liquid
They're defiantly far from perfect movies and not the best version of Venom and Eddie but... its entertaining. I can't say I didn't enjoy them. I would love them to meet/fight Andrews Spider-Man and maybe finally get that spider on his chest. Feels weird without it.
i saw this movie together with my parents (my mom really likes the venom movies) and since then, i've been _waiting_ for you to talk about it. So excited to watch the video. Your videos always bring me a lot of joy and helped me a lot during the pandemic. It also made appreciate some movies more and got me into different franchises (is that the right word?)
Marvel fans: "We want LET THERE BE CARNAGE to be R-Rated." Avi Arad: "'Let There Be Carnage' will be PG-13, so everyone can bring their children to watch it." Me: 14:14
I will say this take on Eddie and Venom is something I enjoy. Venom (symbiote) is no longer a being that manipulates people when they are bonded with Peter, Eddie, Flash, or Scorpion but instead is an actual character with thoughts and feelings, and learns to change. Eddie is probably the same, instead of having him be consumed by rage and jealousy he is this somewhat a reasonable person that knows what would happen if he and Venom were to go deal with crime. I do want to say more but I will keep my mouth shut for reasons, and also Shang-Chi being is nice.
I'm so burned out on so much superhero stuff but damn do I love this Venom saga. Yes the movies are both messy and far from perfect but there's just...something in them that actually hits me more than most glossy MCU/DCU stuff does (apart from The Su1cide Squad and the Peacemaker show). Its probably the cast absolutely selling this ridiculousness, tbh. And the surprising amount of cliches it dodges as much as it embraces others.
Love this movie, it was a quick movie to watch on a saturday evening with some friends, and move on to a party or something like that, but still had a good story.
Honestly loved this movie. I liked the fact that it was short yet I enjoyed all of it. Venom and eddies relationship evolving was great. Carnage was fun. I loved the Easter eggs. As much as it plays off of previous ideas I enjoy it
I want to see more movies like this, where they're a bit more evenly paced, fairly straight forward and don't leave dull moments. Seems like a lot of other movies have essentially a long intro that's just there to fill time before it gets to what the movie is actually about.
@@dakat5131 I completely agree while it is a short movie I never felt board while there felt like we could see more carnage given it is the first appearance of carnage on the big screen I wasn't too bothered
The Venom movies are really fun but when you put any critical thought it does fall off a bit, I just kind of treat it like Fast and the Furious or Transformers where I just turn my brain off and enjoy cool set pieces. Near the ending where Carnage screams “Let there be CARNAGE” is still one of my favorite scenes ever.
Feels great that your channel exists. I don't know why but people hate this film. I would never use hate to describe a form of media, and that is because of your awesome videos! It inspired my channel too! - P-man_XD
In the comics, Cletus kasady was Eddie Brock's cellmate in ravencroft. He was about to kill Eddie but was left in fear when he saw something break through the wall and got on Eddie. It's the venom symbiote, of course. Venom escaped but he somehow left his spawn on parts of the broken wall. The new symbiote dropped on a cut that was on Cletus's hand, and then he became carnage.
Fantastic! I personally am not the best at doing film analysis, so your commentary on movies is one of my FAVORITE things to watch. Which is why I would love, Love, LOVE if you did Everything Great About Rango!
My winning detail, after Carnage manifests Cletus' hairstyle shifts to have downwards spiky bangs, almost as if his head is emerging from Carnage's mouth.
While definitely not the best Marvel film, I can't say I wasn't entertained and the uptick in Symbrock fan art when this released was certainly a plus for me. Also the scream of excitement I let out in the theater during the mid credits scene was something I'll never forget, which happens a lot but I always appreciate when a movie can make me do that despite it not being very hard
The best part honestly is how Venom is _surprisingly chill and happy-go-lucky_ for a cannibalistic head-eating alien monster. You'd expect him to be all dark and edgy...but instead he cracks jokes and cooks terribly and goes to a party and cultivates the bromance.
I've only 1 gripe about this movie, the fact that Woody Harrelson's hair for his end cameo in the first VENOM movie was comic-book accurate, but this movie decided to give him a completely different hair style and as far as I'm concerned this made his non-symbiote look a lot less creepy.
16:12 I already knew the PG-13 rating severely toned down the violence that Carnage was able to cause, but this comparison proved the point even further. However, I still enjoyed the movie.
13:28 as someone who saw this movie in theaters, I can confirm, it doesn't matter how cheesy it was, feeling the entire building SHAKE from that was one of the coolest theater experiences I've had
I liked how the writers didn’t make Venom work with Shriek to defeat Carnage, because it wouldn’t make sense story wise. Venom never actually experienced Shriek use her power until she starts falling down the church tower, so he would’ve never thought to use her other than throwing her on the bell.
I only have one complaint about this movie is that it was not rated R. We missed out on a lot of brutal fun because of their desire to make this for teens.
They can make it brutal all PG-13 says is that you can't have human blood splash all over the place. Carnage was brutal his tongue going down someone throat smashing people against walls.
@@rowenawesome2156 What's cringe the carnage tongue down someone's throat or my statements of R Ratings? Most people think The Batman should be R I don't think that because the very little fight scenes we got wasn't that brutal. Plus The Batman got an R Rating equivalent in UK even though it was PG-13 here and showed no blood.
The beginning of the metal track for the fight between Venom and Carnage sounds like the beginning of The Only Thing They Fear Is You for Doom Eternal.
I'm surprised he didn't Win the foreshadowing done in Eddie's new Motorcycle Hemet's design. It's a near perfect recreation of Carnage's head with its color pallete and visor shape.
I want to add a Win for Cletus getting out of jail, and the first thing he does is dress and drive like a blood-red hommage to Cape Fear. This is no accident, Kassady probably wanted to do this for a long time!
There is something very hauntingly earnest and afraid in the "get your hands off my wife" line, like yeah this dude is totally bonkers and evil but in that line you can hear that he does very deeply care about her and my empathy will never let me not feel awful hearing that sort of desperation to save a loved one.
only thing i did not like about watching this movie in theaters was just how loud carnage's shrieks are. afterward i felt like i should've brought ear protection lol
I ADORE the fact that it's STILL yom Hardy voicing venom So most of the beloved interactions are between himself Tom hardey has great chemistry between himself Live Tom hardey he is one of my favourite actors
I love how Sony made Carnage stronger than Venom in this movie even though they couldn't stick to the source material due to their deal with Marvel/Disney involving Spider-Man considering in the source material Peter faces Carnage first then has to find Eddie and ask for his help knowing that Venom thought he was dead and would try to kill him until Peter points out that Carnage is killing innocent people since even as a villain in the beginning that was the one thing Venom never did because he still had a conscience thanks to Eddie having one also I'm waiting for Carnage to return in another Venom movie considering in the comics he survived being ripped in half by Sentry and has even been "brought back from the dead"
dude, you can use punctuation. I know you are aware of it, you hyphenated Spider-Man, and you used an apostrophe a few times as well as a slash. So why was this whole post one long run-on sentence?
my favorite thing about this movie is that it knows exactly what it is. eddie/venom is the guy who disguised himself as a nun and eats chocolate as a substitute for brains. this movie isn't intellectual, or some sort of nuanced highbrow comedy. it's venom, and it doesn't pretend to be anything else.
Seeing as next week will be another film based on a comic book, here's a list of suggestions for possibly the week after (or later in the year?): -The Land Before Time -Jurassic Park -We're Back: A Dinosaurs' Story -The Lost World: Jurassic Park -Disney's Dinosaur -Jurassic Park III -Ice Age -Walking with Dinosaurs 3D: The Movie (Cretaceous Cut only) -Ice Age 2: The Meltdown -Ice Age 3: Dawn of the Dinosaurs
Idk if you caught this but at 11:30 when venom says “we are going to die” I think it’s a callback to when he says to Eddie “ we are not going to die” while saving his life in the first movie
Yes! I've been waiting to see your take on Shang-Chi! Love that movie so much! Really one you'll cover Christopher Robin and The Muppet Movie one day too.
One thing I didn't like was how both films are not rated R. The other is that Kassidy is, well, less evil than he is in the comics. Most of the evil is in the symbiote.
1 year old already!!! saw the movie with my older sister Jennifer, I feel like they opened it too early in October Anyways, better than the first movie even though it was so short Woody Harrelson is spot-on as Kleetus Kassidy aka Carnage The love-hate relationship of Eddie Brock and Venom continues to entertain and serve as a metaphor for a troubled romance It's a shame Naomie Harris isn't fully developed more but it's fun and ironic with her powers of sound falling for a villain that has a symbiote that's weak to ultraviolet heat and sonic vibration The action is so much more exciting, the themes of friendship and dependency, and our fascination with monsters and serial killers The mid-credits scene....omg Jennifer and I were happily surprised what the filmmakers did !!! It opens a lot more possibilities for the SONY universe
We never really did get an explanation of Venom recognising "A red one" Had he seen one before or was he just like "That one is red! Symbiotes aren't normally red! Red must mean he's bad news!"
It could be that he knows red signifies a connection to the blood rather than the central nervous system, allowing for greater regeneration. That's how Carnage is able to throw missiles at Venom without losing body mass.
Love the shot of Brock weaving through pipes like the ones used in spider-man 3. They did Shriek so dirty. She just wanted do do a little crime with her boyfriend, and we spent all that time on her character for nothing. Venom greeting Mrs. Chen in Cantonese even though she can't hear him is so wholesome. Man learned a whole language to understand his buddy better. Or at least the basics.
I’m genuinely surprised that so many people prefer the first movie over this one. I think the reason I prefer Let There Be Carnage is because Eddie and Venom’s relationship didn’t need to be built from the ground up this time. While I love Carnage and Riot small moments where Venom and Eddie are just goofing off makes me more engaged than any fight scene could. I’m also sad that (spoiler) Venom wasn’t in NWH but at least the MCU might be able to have their own symbiote now! The Venom Movies overall are fine, but once you add Tom Hardy and Tom Hardy’s bass boosted voice and get them arguing like an old married couple it’s absolute peak cinema for me xD
I'm surprised you didn't add a point for Venom saying "we are hurting right now" - that entire scene. It was so soft and comforting.
Seriously, that line and the scene that followed was just Venom at his bro-est. I think it showed that deep down he genuinely cares for Eddie.
One of venom's more better moments
Easily to skim over with the sillier stuff
@@yaburu "bro-est" I'm- they're a couple especially in the comics-
@@graysonrogers-barnes6302 canonically???
@@SwizzleDrizzl yes
Can we acknowledge how awesome Dan is; just an ordinary guy who falls for a girl who gets dragged into the crazy escapades with her ex-boyfriend and his symbiote soulmate/boyfriend. Like Annie is coming around to Venom and is willing to do anything to help Eddie but Dan took some time which is understandable. Most boyfriends would either run for the hills or be in league with the villain but Dan's just a genuinely nice guy who is just there to help and support Annie and since Annie cares about Eddie or Venom; he does too.
Agreed. And it's nice that he's just a normal ok guy, and not some insecure douchebag who ends up giving her an ultimatum.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Yes! Thank you! No love triangle bull crap here. And it’s cool that Eddie does appreciate and actually roots for Dan here. Venom took some time, but he’s warming up.
It's one of my favorite parts about the series. My stepdad is quite similar
Dan in 1 won me over to the movies. His girl's ex shows up in a fancy diner, asks for live food, heads into the lobster tank then bites the lobster's head off?
Lie that he's his patient, get him to a hospital, and then try to treat him himself.
Dan got treated kindly, everyone likes Ann and she gets to make her own romantic decisions and be apart of the plot. It's really nice.
I would donate both my kidneys to see a room mate sitcom with Eddie and Venom. This was such a fun movie.
Be careful, Venom may just take you up on that lol
Lol that would be a hilarious show, but it might cost them too much on special effects.
Now I want Eddie and Venom in a special episode of WandaVision.
@@kaybadberg534 Ooh, good one. Shame there won't be a season 2
@@kaybadberg534 YES! I'd love to see that.
I think there's some hidden depth to Venom destroying Eddie's bike: earlier when Anne told Eddie she was enganged to Dan, Eddie almost tried to get himself run over in his bike. Venom was trying to keep Eddie from potentially trying that again now that they were separated since Venom would not be able to save him if he did.
Exactly. So many people missed this. Was like venom still protecting him from himself despite not being there. Loved this movie cuz it centers on their relationship issues from the last movie. Tired of happy ever after when we all know it won’t work like that. So glad we see their struggles to still get along despite getting used to each other from the last film.
Holy shit thank you for sharing that dude, an excellent catch to make their actions more grounded
I really don't think it was that deep...
He was just destroying something Eddie loved
I really don't think it was that deep...
He was just destroying something Eddie loved
@@icemanlj2k7 Can he not do both?
It actually makes sense how carnage can interact with the Internet since symbiote seemingly can space ships and other technology
Wot
It makes more sense than whatever the heck you just said.
@@Sleeper800 huh?
@@woops9076 Definitely meant the op
I too can space ships. I space ships and also motorcycles some time of. If of ever the yes is to follow in follows then space shipsing is me through through through!
Hardy’s delivery when he says: “I know this one! It’s a TREE.”
That should be a win on its own.
YES! I was looking for this comment! Just how he delivers it like a little goblin henchman who's never been to the surface before is hilarious.
"This movie is off to a weird start" it's called domestic monsterfucking
I'm here for the monster loving and the monster fucking. And I'm glad Tom Hardy knows it.
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The sound design and cgi were my favorite parts of this movie. Carnage saying "let there be carnage" gave me chills as the theater shook
Same
I saw this movie in a theatre with a bass booster I almost had to cover my ears that was so loud and bassy and I loved it
😐😬
imagine watching that in one of those fancy theaters were they blow wind and move the chairs around
Jesus
@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan literally almost got shook out my chair in that scene. Was an experience and a half 😂
The only thing I’m really sad about was Tom Hardy’s Venom was supposed to be in No way home, but couldn’t for schedule reasons. I’d have loved to see Eddie’s and Venom’s reactions/interactions with the characters. They left it open for a symbiote to be in MCU Spider-Man, but it won’t be with Hardy which is a real shame. Well maybe we’ll get that crossover with Garfield someday.
Bruh for a second I thought you meant Garfield the cat
That’s what I’m hoping for. They were going to do more Amazing Spider-Man but they stopped because the MCU Spider-Man was coming. After the phenomenal success of No Way Home, I think that proves that people love Spider-Man and love Andrew Garfield. They can absolutely have two separate Spider-Man franchises going on, especially since they’ve established the multiverse and crossed over. There’s also nothing really in either movie that says ASM and Venom can’t be from the same universe, especially since it seems Sony’s building their own Marvel cinematic universe. Venom is in San Francisco and Spider-Man was in New York so they just never crossed paths yet. They could also set it around when Andrew/Peter said he “stopped pulling his punches” after Gwen, and would be a perfect opportunity to introduce Venom and have a darker (possibly even R??) Spider-Man movie. That would kinda be awesome.
Finally in NWH, the fact that all the villains pulled were from the same universes as the Spider-Men that were pulled actually implies that Venom is in fact from the same universe as Andrew Garfield. (The only reason he wasn’t there was because he wasn’t in New York at the time, he was in Mexico. By the time he figured it out and got the story straight he was getting sent back so he never got a chance to go find Spider-Man like Venom wanted. But part of him was left behind, so…)
@@girlinblack5361 Lol I feel like Garfield the cat would hate Venom. He’d totally disrupt his daily life.
I mean, I don't think we should discount Hardy's venom from showing up in the mainline MCU just because he wasn't in that movie. With the fact that he CAN cross the timelines established, it would make it much easier for him to show up in other movies now.
@@t.c.9917 He WAS in No Way Home, in the post-credit scene (same way he showed up in the MCU at the end of this film). He was in the MCU for the events of the movie but spent the whole time in a hotel somewhere drinking and catching up with the new world's events. He gets returned to his universe almost immediately, but not before leaving a piece of the Venom symbiote behind. Venom is coming to the MCU, but it's far more likely that they're recasting Eddie Brock to fit the MCU rather than continuing with the Tom Hardy timeline (which feels like it fits in more with the crappy early 2000s Marvel licensed films more than it does the MCU anyway).
Eddie and Venom are so much closer than friends. One might even call them. Roommates.
And they were roommates…
They are body mates
Oh my god they were roommates
@@morrowings THEY WERE ROOMMATES!??!
I honestly love the Venom movies, they're just a lot of fun, the fight scenes are cool and Tom Hardy arguing/flirting with an alien goo monster who is also Tom Hardy is great.
My thoughts exactly.
I want a full sit com of just eddie and venom, with one fight scene an episode. That would be perfect.
these films are the equivalent to Limp Biscuit. always some poor souls who have low standards lol
Normally Carnage and Kletus are more symbiotic than Venom and Eddie, but I understand why this movie made them not be symbiotic. If Carnage and Kletus were as symbiotic as usual, Venom and Eddie would not have any chance of winning. It usually takes Venom and Spiderman working together to defeat Carnage, but this Universe doesn't have Spiderman, as far as we know.
Well I do really enjoy the theory that this is from the Andrew Garfield universe, but it’s got some flaws.
there is a spiderman as far as i know since in morbius' trailer at 2:10 there was a spiderman grafitti on the wall, obviously they havent established a narrative with him yet but the concept of spiderman exists in the sony venom universe
cleetus will come back somehow and it will be a rebirth via symbiote maybe and he will be like best friend and he won't have the sonic as a weakness as his weakness is only fire.
Fridge Brilliance win
There's always going to be different incarnations of the same character.
Also I love that they leaned even more into the romcom for this. Like you said the Eddie/Venom relationship is definitely the best part of these movies. I do wish they’d pull a Deadpool and just let the movies be R rated and stop nerfing the violence, clearly that type of movie can be successful.
Can I just say that I genuinely loved the relationship between Woody Harrelson's character and his boo? They loved and understood the heck out of one another. I was actually rooting for them to be able to stay together, so I was legit sad when first Carnage hurt her, and then Venom offed her.
To me, their relationship was a villain love story I could get behind. It was like everything that the Joker/Harley Quinn romance *isn't.* Loving, protective yet respectful, mutually admiring, equals. This movie about popular Spiderman villains had TWO great love stories! 😍
I was rooting for them too. One blink and then Screech was killed. *Sigh*
Same! They had a better relationship than all the heroes imo.
The actors are close irl too. Naomie posted a behind the scene clip where Woody was singing to & dancing with her.
They also played lovers in another film. She got hurt in a car accident during filming & Woody let her live with him & his wife until she healed enough to travel back home.
I love these movies. They're not good, and stupid or cringe at times yet their so dang enjoyable. Sometimes that's all a movie needs
They're absolutely going to be the kind of movies down years the road we watch because they're enjoyable and fun
Exactly! Not every movie needs to be Oscar-worthy. Sometimes just a fun movie is great too.
@@cryptidnip they're entertaining movies but that doesn't mean it's a 10/10 perfect flawless of a movie right? I mean you look at The Dark Knight or Logan, both are entertaining superhero movie but also a perfect 10/10 masterpiece of a superhero movie with great character work, brilliant action, story that's great and incredible arcs for everyone involved, that's what a movie really needs, not just some mindless action sequences with forgettable characters. You don't need to be Oscar worthy to make a great movie. Hitchcock never won an Oscar but he still made many greatest movies of all time
Yeah but that doesn't mean it's a 10/10 perfect flawless masterpiece of a movie whatsoever. It still needed to be judge for its writing, technical aspect all that stuff. It was still a very rushed movie anyways despite the good performance from Tom Hardy. I barely remember anything remarkable about the movie because it just felt too rushed and unfortunately the action scenes were a bit shaky to understand
@@Erasureeraser i never said the venom movies were perfect or flawless lmao
I absolutley love that this movie adds more red as it goes on you may have missed it but it starts with the helmet and the bike and then carnage.
Nice catch!
zzzzzzzzz doesnt make up for that weak script that the lady from 50 shades of grey churned out
8:22 For those concerned, the actual rule is more or less "If you didn't see the villain get eviscerated, they might still be alive"
These movies just hit something different. So glad their getting some good attention, amazing video
They're*
Agreed.
They’re*
It’s not fucking hard
@@Notconceitedjustbetterthanyou Big Lez
@@dorianjareth9198 No duh, ya druggo.
It tried it's best to continue from Venom
It did well
Not perfect but it did good enough , definitely a fun watch
Avi Arad ruined everything again
Just like he ruined UNCHARTED
I love venom with all my heart but the main problem i had with the second installment is there are alot of times the cgi feels off or rushed same for the story, still a good movie tho
NOPE! This film SUCKS
I enjoyed watching it but you could tell they cut a lot of stuff. The story is rather barebones and could've done with twentyish more minutes to flesh out characterizations. Especially for Shriek. As it stands she fails the Sexy Lamp Test imo.
@@danieledia9797 wrong
This is honestly one of my favorite comic book movies, cause its just damn fun, and you can tell everyone working on it was enjoying themselves
the thing about this film is that you gotta enjoy it as a romcom with a weird subplot and a really cool fight scene at the end
I can’t believe you didn’t win the best line in the film. “Marriage troubles? Already???” Is the funniest thing I’ve heard for so long. It’s ridiculous. My best friend and I love to hate these films and think they’re comedy gold so when that line hit us in theatres we howled for what felt like hours
I find it very interesting that they kinda failed to do this key element of cletus and carnage. See with venom and Eddie they always say “we,” while they are very close they still have their separate personalities (although the actual symbiote has never before had so much of a clear cut personality ( it was always evilish looking black goo. Not the best damn buddy a guy could ask for... any why. But with the carnage and cletus. It’s almost always been “I” with them. Their personalities match so much they kind forget they are two different beings
I just love how Andy Serkis directed Woody when he and him acted together in War for the Planet of the Apes… and that they became such good friends on War that Woody wanted Andy to voice Carnage but Andy convinced him to do the voice himself. I hope they keep making movies together.
The one thing that bothered me is the fact that Carnage's whole thing is that he has perfect symbiosis to the point of essentially being a singular being, whereas Venom is always separate from his hosts. That and him being a bigger, monstrous version of Venom, tongue and all. I like the fact that Carnage in the comics is smaller and slimmer, but still more deadly in spite of that.
That said, the changes they made to his character served the story being told about Eddie and Venom so I can't really complain because it's solid storytelling.
Overall, it was a fun movie. They doubled down on the parts that actually worked in the original and it has a much more consistent tone because of it.
I wasn't huge on the first bit I really enjoyed this one. Really liked the physical humour that Ton Hardy brought, really liked Woody Harelson, it felt like he was having fun in the role. Loved the little simz cameo. The sound design deserves special mention, that prison break out scene especially was brilliant in the cinema
That's gotta be Shang Chi when he was having breakfast at Katie's family!
Super excited, there was so much passion behind the making of Shang Chi in all different facets
Best exemplified by the making of documentary episode of Marvel Studios Assembled focusing on the making of Shang-Chi
Oh yeah he hasn’t done that yet
Honestly I hope NWH's post credits mean we'll get an actually comic accurate Venom in the MCU. That way Venom fans can get what they want and people who like these movies can keep them.
Venom has been an anti-hero as well he hasn't just been a villain.
@@userious258 yeah, but he not usually so fucking goofy like he is is these movies.
@@userious258 Yeah I'm not talking about him being a hero in these movies, I'm talking about how the Venom in these films is unrecognizable to any fan of Venom comics. Hardy's Eddie Brock acts nothing like Eddie from the comics, Venom is acting plain weird the entire time, and, oh yeah, *this Venom has never met Spider-Man.* Venom's entire character is built around his relationship with Spider-Man. By taking that away, you take away the essence of Venom. These movies aren't good because they're more concerned with marketing an easy to swallow action flick than they are with making a good Venom movie.
@@absolutecarnage777 That's your opinion though. I doubt the piece of Venom being left behind is going to be anything which was stupid like how did a piece get left. I doubt Sony would have a Venom or Eddie Brock then allow Marvel to do him at the same time.
@@DigitalHeliumJumper They wanted to switch it up and I found that interesting.
Some movies are just fun to watch, and these Venom ones certainly are. They're not high art or anything but who cares!
We need more movies that are like this, polished enough to be watchable but at the same time not dragged down being pretentious.
Man, you are painfully close to two million subs. Good work!
I'd sub twice if I could :(
@@SinHurr same
13:19 This line hit so hard in theaters and just overall this movies sound design was on point! Literally shook the room, you felt like Venom and Carnage were in your heads when they weren’t visible, same with the music, just phenomenal
This uh... this film made me realize and come to grips with things about myself that I hadn't previously known. I loved it, Tom Hardy was amazing, Venom and Eddie are totally in love, how could you not win Venom literally saying he loves him????? And Woody Harrelson was creeptastic
loving someone doesn't automatically mean you're romantically interested in them, to me it seems like he says that more as a friend than a lover, they're just buddies that don't want to lose eachother.
Woody Harrelson apparently took a lot of inspiration in playing the character from Charles Harrelson, his dad, a known hitman. Charles Harrelson also killed a judge and at one point claimed to murder JFK. Woody visited him in prison a lot, and that's probably why his Kletus hit right.
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about how Eddie reacted with his bike when he found out Anne was engaged. It’s a real portrayal of how some ride with their emotions being in control, it’s further than I’ve gone. But it’s definitely happened in the past with similar situations.
My favourite scene was probably Venom at the coming out party... "i am finally out of the Eddie closet!"
I love how in the first movie its about being flexible, which we see in the riot fight where he has a lot of solid weapons to use. In this one it's about having a solid connection, shown how the enemy is very liquid
While it definitely felt painful to watch in theater at times, in the end I’m still glad I watched it
What kind painful plz elaborate
@@hariskhalid2323 The sound design was, at times, a little . . . overwhelming
@@HaydrogenBomb I really liked the movie maybe cuz I saw it in theater the sound was just on point especially that let there be carnage scene
@@hariskhalid2323 Agreed. That was awesome
They're defiantly far from perfect movies and not the best version of Venom and Eddie but... its entertaining. I can't say I didn't enjoy them. I would love them to meet/fight Andrews Spider-Man and maybe finally get that spider on his chest. Feels weird without it.
Probably the best version of those characters
i saw this movie together with my parents (my mom really likes the venom movies) and since then, i've been _waiting_ for you to talk about it.
So excited to watch the video. Your videos always bring me a lot of joy and helped me a lot during the pandemic. It also made appreciate some movies more and got me into different franchises (is that the right word?)
Marvel fans: "We want LET THERE BE CARNAGE to be R-Rated."
Avi Arad: "'Let There Be Carnage' will be PG-13, so everyone can bring their children to watch it."
Me: 14:14
That works on so many levels.
@@MovieFan1912 Arad also ruined UNCHARTED and MORBIUS
godDAMMIT it's always gonna be avi, ain't it???
@@kaelang12 if Avi lives
There's no hope for Sony's Marvel movies
Unless if they let Phil Lord and Chris Miller in charge
@@Zombiesnyder13 he's been at this since the first spider-man movies came out 😔
I will say this take on Eddie and Venom is something I enjoy. Venom (symbiote) is no longer a being that manipulates people when they are bonded with Peter, Eddie, Flash, or Scorpion but instead is an actual character with thoughts and feelings, and learns to change. Eddie is probably the same, instead of having him be consumed by rage and jealousy he is this somewhat a reasonable person that knows what would happen if he and Venom were to go deal with crime. I do want to say more but I will keep my mouth shut for reasons, and also Shang-Chi being is nice.
I haven’t seen the movie yet considering that I now own it on DVD, but I still love Tom Hardy as Venom.
That first scream of carnage - chills, literal chills.
I'm so burned out on so much superhero stuff but damn do I love this Venom saga. Yes the movies are both messy and far from perfect but there's just...something in them that actually hits me more than most glossy MCU/DCU stuff does (apart from The Su1cide Squad and the Peacemaker show). Its probably the cast absolutely selling this ridiculousness, tbh. And the surprising amount of cliches it dodges as much as it embraces others.
Love this movie, it was a quick movie to watch on a saturday evening with some friends, and move on to a party or something like that, but still had a good story.
Honestly loved this movie. I liked the fact that it was short yet I enjoyed all of it.
Venom and eddies relationship evolving was great.
Carnage was fun.
I loved the Easter eggs.
As much as it plays off of previous ideas I enjoy it
I want to see more movies like this, where they're a bit more evenly paced, fairly straight forward and don't leave dull moments.
Seems like a lot of other movies have essentially a long intro that's just there to fill time before it gets to what the movie is actually about.
@@dakat5131 I completely agree while it is a short movie I never felt board while there felt like we could see more carnage given it is the first appearance of carnage on the big screen I wasn't too bothered
Glad your doing this movie, the venom movies don't get enough love. Also still suggesting the polar express
The Venom movies are really fun but when you put any critical thought it does fall off a bit, I just kind of treat it like Fast and the Furious or Transformers where I just turn my brain off and enjoy cool set pieces. Near the ending where Carnage screams “Let there be CARNAGE” is still one of my favorite scenes ever.
Did you say RUST COLE?!? Cinema wins you’ve been my favorite channel for five years now but that somehow made me love you even more, thank you sir!
Feels great that your channel exists. I don't know why but people hate this film. I would never use hate to describe a form of media, and that is because of your awesome videos! It inspired my channel too!
- P-man_XD
Because Avi Arad made it PG-13 just so it can appeal to a wider audience
And the result is a movie done by the writer of 50 Shades of Grey
@@Zombiesnyder13: I didn't ask, but thanks for the insight! XD
@@P-man_XD you said you don't know why people hate this movie
So I told you why
@@Zombiesnyder13 a pg-13 it was pg-15 for me
In the comics, Cletus kasady was Eddie Brock's cellmate in ravencroft. He was about to kill Eddie but was left in fear when he saw something break through the wall and got on Eddie. It's the venom symbiote, of course. Venom escaped but he somehow left his spawn on parts of the broken wall. The new symbiote dropped on a cut that was on Cletus's hand, and then he became carnage.
Fantastic! I personally am not the best at doing film analysis, so your commentary on movies is one of my FAVORITE things to watch. Which is why I would love, Love, LOVE if you did Everything Great About Rango!
My winning detail, after Carnage manifests Cletus' hairstyle shifts to have downwards spiky bangs, almost as if his head is emerging from Carnage's mouth.
While definitely not the best Marvel film, I can't say I wasn't entertained and the uptick in Symbrock fan art when this released was certainly a plus for me. Also the scream of excitement I let out in the theater during the mid credits scene was something I'll never forget, which happens a lot but I always appreciate when a movie can make me do that despite it not being very hard
Cannot state how excited I am to see Toxin with words. I had to explain to a lot of my friends who he was, and why I love him so much
The best part honestly is how Venom is _surprisingly chill and happy-go-lucky_ for a cannibalistic head-eating alien monster. You'd expect him to be all dark and edgy...but instead he cracks jokes and cooks terribly and goes to a party and cultivates the bromance.
I've only 1 gripe about this movie, the fact that Woody Harrelson's hair for his end
cameo in the first VENOM movie was comic-book accurate, but this movie decided
to give him a completely different hair style and as far as I'm concerned this made
his non-symbiote look a lot less creepy.
16:12 I already knew the PG-13 rating severely toned down the violence that Carnage was able to cause, but this comparison proved the point even further. However, I still enjoyed the movie.
13:28 as someone who saw this movie in theaters, I can confirm, it doesn't matter how cheesy it was, feeling the entire building SHAKE from that was one of the coolest theater experiences I've had
Eddie and Venom. Just, everything about Eddie and Venom.
I liked how the writers didn’t make Venom work with Shriek to defeat Carnage, because it wouldn’t make sense story wise. Venom never actually experienced Shriek use her power until she starts falling down the church tower, so he would’ve never thought to use her other than throwing her on the bell.
I only have one complaint about this movie is that it was not rated R. We missed out on a lot of brutal fun because of their desire to make this for teens.
They can make it brutal all PG-13 says is that you can't have human blood splash all over the place. Carnage was brutal his tongue going down someone throat smashing people against walls.
@@userious258 that's so cringe
@@rowenawesome2156 What's cringe the carnage tongue down someone's throat or my statements of R Ratings? Most people think The Batman should be R I don't think that because the very little fight scenes we got wasn't that brutal. Plus The Batman got an R Rating equivalent in UK even though it was PG-13 here and showed no blood.
The beginning of the metal track for the fight between Venom and Carnage sounds like the beginning of The Only Thing They Fear Is You for Doom Eternal.
I'm surprised he didn't Win the foreshadowing done in Eddie's new Motorcycle Hemet's design. It's a near perfect recreation of Carnage's head with its color pallete and visor shape.
Venom 2 wasn't as dark as I wanted, and I wish it was a bit longer. But definitively a fun and worth watch in the theaters
Only movie I’ve slept through in the movies but I’m still gonna watch the video😂
I envy your capability to sleep through this movie in a movie theater, the only movie I've slept through in theater was Draft Day with Kelvin Costner.
I want to add a Win for Cletus getting out of jail, and the first thing he does is dress and drive like a blood-red hommage to Cape Fear. This is no accident, Kassady probably wanted to do this for a long time!
Tom Hardy should be in the always a win category.
There is something very hauntingly earnest and afraid in the "get your hands off my wife" line, like yeah this dude is totally bonkers and evil but in that line you can hear that he does very deeply care about her and my empathy will never let me not feel awful hearing that sort of desperation to save a loved one.
only thing i did not like about watching this movie in theaters was just how loud carnage's shrieks are. afterward i felt like i should've brought ear protection lol
I ADORE the fact that it's STILL yom Hardy voicing venom
So most of the beloved interactions are between himself
Tom hardey has great chemistry between himself
Live Tom hardey he is one of my favourite actors
Andy Serkis definitely knocked it out the park with this one.
I love how Sony made Carnage stronger than Venom in this movie even though they couldn't stick to the source material due to their deal with Marvel/Disney involving Spider-Man considering in the source material Peter faces Carnage first then has to find Eddie and ask for his help knowing that Venom thought he was dead and would try to kill him until Peter points out that Carnage is killing innocent people since even as a villain in the beginning that was the one thing Venom never did because he still had a conscience thanks to Eddie having one also I'm waiting for Carnage to return in another Venom movie considering in the comics he survived being ripped in half by Sentry and has even been "brought back from the dead"
dude, you can use punctuation. I know you are aware of it, you hyphenated Spider-Man, and you used an apostrophe a few times as well as a slash. So why was this whole post one long run-on sentence?
My Theory: That little bit of Venom that was left in the MCU-Earth is going to become Mania, Venom's kinda/sorta daughter.
What's her general moral alignment?
4:53 my favorite moment change my mind
my favorite thing about this movie is that it knows exactly what it is. eddie/venom is the guy who disguised himself as a nun and eats chocolate as a substitute for brains. this movie isn't intellectual, or some sort of nuanced highbrow comedy. it's venom, and it doesn't pretend to be anything else.
That… post-credits scene… *(licks screen)*
Who else was disappointed that Eddy and Venom were only in an after credits scene for No Way Home? Screw that, I wanted Venom to interact with Peter!!
Exactly
I would just love a short special where Eddie is learning about the Avengers and try to wrap his head around it. Possibly being shown footage
Seeing as next week will be another film based on a comic book, here's a list of suggestions for possibly the week after (or later in the year?):
-The Land Before Time
-Jurassic Park
-We're Back: A Dinosaurs' Story
-The Lost World: Jurassic Park
-Disney's Dinosaur
-Jurassic Park III
-Ice Age
-Walking with Dinosaurs 3D: The Movie (Cretaceous Cut only)
-Ice Age 2: The Meltdown
-Ice Age 3: Dawn of the Dinosaurs
Id love a Deadpool x Venom movie. These two would work so well together.
Idk if you caught this but at 11:30 when venom says “we are going to die” I think it’s a callback to when he says to Eddie “ we are not going to die” while saving his life in the first movie
Carnage: Let There Be Carnage!!
CHILLS! LITERAL CHILLS!
a little thing that I loved
When Kassidy writes his letter to Eddie the moment he says "we all have our origin story" he smashes the spider
If Sony doesn't get rid of AVI ARAD
You can bet their cinematic universe isn't gonna last very long
If I were Sony?
As soon as he's hired...
"Now that your hired your fired!"
i loved this movie for so many reasons ♥
Correction for ya, bud.
Carnage is made of Cletus’ _blood._ And that’s why he’s red.
I love this movie, but I am still crossing my fingers for a Everything Great With Jojo Rabbit
I don't think that'll ever happen, unfortunately in this day an age you could get canceled just for mentioning the nazi's existence.
Yes! I've been waiting to see your take on Shang-Chi! Love that movie so much! Really one you'll cover Christopher Robin and The Muppet Movie one day too.
One thing I didn't like was how both films are not rated R.
The other is that Kassidy is, well, less evil than he is in the comics. Most of the evil is in the symbiote.
Next week is Shang-Chi, been waiting for months for it and am so excited!
I love this movie more than the original!
1 year old already!!!
saw the movie with my older sister Jennifer, I feel like they opened it too early in October
Anyways,
better than the first movie even though it was so short
Woody Harrelson is spot-on as Kleetus Kassidy aka Carnage
The love-hate relationship of Eddie Brock and Venom continues to entertain and serve as a metaphor for a troubled romance
It's a shame Naomie Harris isn't fully developed more but it's fun and ironic with her powers of sound falling for a villain that has a symbiote that's weak to ultraviolet heat and sonic vibration
The action is so much more exciting, the themes of friendship and dependency, and our fascination with monsters and serial killers
The mid-credits scene....omg Jennifer and I were happily surprised what the filmmakers did !!!
It opens a lot more possibilities for the SONY universe
This movie is just pure fun. And sometimes that's all that's needed.
Almost to 2 million! Congrats! Hoping for La La Land soon
We never really did get an explanation of Venom recognising "A red one"
Had he seen one before or was he just like "That one is red! Symbiotes aren't normally red! Red must mean he's bad news!"
Let's be real if I suddenly saw a red human out of nowhere I might freak out too
It could be that he knows red signifies a connection to the blood rather than the central nervous system, allowing for greater regeneration. That's how Carnage is able to throw missiles at Venom without losing body mass.
@@KomaValorina same xD
Love the shot of Brock weaving through pipes like the ones used in spider-man 3.
They did Shriek so dirty. She just wanted do do a little crime with her boyfriend, and we spent all that time on her character for nothing.
Venom greeting Mrs. Chen in Cantonese even though she can't hear him is so wholesome. Man learned a whole language to understand his buddy better. Or at least the basics.
I’m genuinely surprised that so many people prefer the first movie over this one. I think the reason I prefer Let There Be Carnage is because Eddie and Venom’s relationship didn’t need to be built from the ground up this time. While I love Carnage and Riot small moments where Venom and Eddie are just goofing off makes me more engaged than any fight scene could. I’m also sad that (spoiler) Venom wasn’t in NWH but at least the MCU might be able to have their own symbiote now! The Venom Movies overall are fine, but once you add Tom Hardy and Tom Hardy’s bass boosted voice and get them arguing like an old married couple it’s absolute peak cinema for me xD
So happy you described Venom and Eddie as soulmates because that is what they are! They are literally lovers!
I love that you get it, Venom and Eddie are more lovers and soulmates than anything else
I just don't understand that, could you explain your reasoning? To me they just seem like buddies.
@@PeterGriffin-sj7mbi know mcu and comics arent the same thing but in the comics they have kids
PLEASE do Everything GREAT About WolfWalkers! Most beautiful hand drawn animated film I’ve ever seen. Cartoon Saloon deserves more attention!
I still feel bad for Venom and Eddie that they didn’t get much screen time in No Way Home; I feel like something very interesting would happen