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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • Welcome to Video Scaries... Episode 12
    And for this episode we take a look at the prominent string of public information films that warned us Brits all about the threat of nuclear war... its Protect and Survive.
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  • @AdamMartyn
    @AdamMartyn  3 роки тому +83

    *PLEASE NOTE*
    Due to a copyright claim, I've had to remove approximately 2 minutes and 30 seconds of footage from this video
    This may result in a cut between clips being a little jumpy, due to UA-cam's basic editing software, but I hope the video still remains enjoyable.
    Every single Protect and Survive video can be found either on UA-cam or at other sites

  • @mubd1234sAussieMediaArchive
    @mubd1234sAussieMediaArchive 3 роки тому +168

    The fallout warning is the craziest thing. The three whistles or gongs would have been sounded by some poor bastard running down the street whistling or gonging (I am NOT joking) while the highly poisonous radioactive dust settles on the ground around them.

    • @eddiereptile1049
      @eddiereptile1049 2 роки тому +6

      That would probably be me. :)

    • @danzigball9074
      @danzigball9074 Рік тому +3

      they would be in a tower or smth so they maybe safe

    • @introvertgoblin
      @introvertgoblin Рік тому +3

      That’s interesting to know. I thought they were over the radio instead of proper noise.

    • @iitzfizz
      @iitzfizz 11 місяців тому +2

      Time - Distance - Shielding

    • @shonacourt9750
      @shonacourt9750 4 місяці тому +1

      I always wondered what poor sod would get that job😂😂😱

  • @loganmacgyver2625
    @loganmacgyver2625 4 роки тому +27

    there was a belief that there is gonna be at least 2 weeks of warning before nuclrear war. thats why they were telling you to do all that things

    • @notjebbutstillakerbal
      @notjebbutstillakerbal 11 місяців тому +2

      This would be broadcasted 72 hours before attack. It operated like this:
      1. UK gets intel on possible nuclear exchange
      2. Broadcast this series of PSAs on loop 72 hours before impact and print booklets
      3. By the time the attack warning sounds, everyone's hopefully prepared
      4. If fall-out is expected, sound the 3 beeps indicating fall-out
      5. Everybody who's in range may survive.

  • @panda-wk8mv
    @panda-wk8mv 2 роки тому +4

    when the wind blows is an exelent film that ripps these films (and associated advice leaflets) a new one! realy depressing film from the same man who did the snowman (although that also was depressing, and he also wrote ethel and ernest... which was depressing... was raymond briggs alright?)

  • @foxee36
    @foxee36 2 роки тому +1

    It wasn’t shown until 1980,this was an edited version of the unbroadcast 70’s one

    • @judet5426
      @judet5426 Рік тому

      P&S got leaked by the press in the early 80's, appeared in a documentary about nuclear war and was also used in "Threads".

  • @ellieoroarty4246
    @ellieoroarty4246 5 років тому +8

    please do animal cruelty, fire and health and safety video scaries!

  • @seanbrown453
    @seanbrown453 2 місяці тому

    Ticj civil sevants and politicia might have a big enough noise but not the general piblov

  • @ARedMagicMarker
    @ARedMagicMarker 4 роки тому +179

    Ah, yes. The synthesizer that still haunts some folks to this day.
    Yup, whoever made it *really* knew how to get your attention. Bravo to them, whoever it was. I'm seriously considering using it for a burglar alarm and set extremely loud. That'll send em' running for sure.

    • @nickythehickey
      @nickythehickey Рік тому +11

      apparently the person who made that jingle later went on to compose for doctor who

    • @vincentwhitehead
      @vincentwhitehead Рік тому +1

      @@nickythehickey wait what??!

    • @lrayzRBLX
      @lrayzRBLX Рік тому

      Playing warning sirens is illegal if there is not actually an emergency, so if people believe it, you can get a big fine and be arrested

    • @ARedMagicMarker
      @ARedMagicMarker Рік тому +1

      @@lrayzRBLX I'll play the jingle, not the warning/attack sound. 😑

    • @sawbonesquad4876
      @sawbonesquad4876 Рік тому +1

      *jingle plays* "if anyone dies while you are in your fallout room..."

  • @stevenburns5124
    @stevenburns5124 4 роки тому +74

    Oh yes, a little Protect & Survive. Don't worry if theres a bomb, take your doors off and make a inner refuge. What could possibly go wrong.....apart from those missing doors letting in the additional radiation & fallout!
    If it happens now, I'm getting near a expected epicenter and kissing my butt goodbye, no desire to extend the suffering of the inevitable.

    • @notjebbutstillakerbal
      @notjebbutstillakerbal 11 місяців тому +1

      It's best to block the gaps made by the removed doors, and to not remove the door leading to your shelter.

    • @jerrycoob4750
      @jerrycoob4750 5 місяців тому

      What if you took out the doors from different rooms than the inner refuge?

  • @landscapedetective4064
    @landscapedetective4064 2 роки тому +60

    I remember there was a parody Protect and Survive that came out sometime in the early 80s. I had a copy of the booklet, but it's long since disappeared. I recall reading advice about how to deal with hysterical relatives: 'A sharp blow to the back of the neck stops blubbering instantly.' Great stuff!

    • @adammclaughlin845
      @adammclaughlin845 Рік тому +2

      So if they survived the bombing, and the fallout, and potentially a nuclear winter (if these are really a thing), they die by karate chop. Well, at least it would be quick!

  • @HJ-ju4ui
    @HJ-ju4ui 2 роки тому +32

    I think the authorities knew these were ludicrous but their main purpose was to provide some sense of safety and give the people at least something to try to survive because, no matter how much people joke around about just putting a law chair outside our human nature is to try to survive no matter how bleak the circumstance that's just how we are

  • @Altoclarinets
    @Altoclarinets Рік тому +11

    Some things that you seem to have misinterpreted here:
    #1. These were never actually shown on TV in the 70s. They were designed for use if tensions ever escalated to a point that UK authorities considered an attack to be imminent in a matter of weeks and thankfully this was never the case. This is also when the creation of a fallout room, stocking up on food and water, prepping the house to avoid fires, and so on was all meant to be done - neither on any random Tuesday nor during the panic of the four minutes' warning, but in those precious few days while global tensions are escalating but the bombs aren't falling YET.
    #2. While it's true that a lot of this advice would be essentially futile for anyone situated close to major targets, if you're further from the various ground zeroes a full scale nuclear attack would likely create, getting any kind of cover between you and the explosion could make a major difference. There are some stories from Hiroshima and Nagasaki about people further on the outskirts who managed to survive thanks to very rudimentary protection. (Whether one would actually WANT to continue living in a nuclear war-ravaged Britain is another question; Threads would be another good topic for this series IF you promise to actually do your research on the context and implications instead of just shooting from the hip)
    #3. The nuclear blast and the fallout are two different events. They can be considerably separate in time and space (thanks to the wind carrying the dust great distances before it is able to return to Earth) and the advice for avoiding each is conceptually separate - the advice for avoiding blast if you're caught outdoors is not *intended* to be employed against fallout, because the only safe shelter from fallout is physical separation (and if you were still alive after the blast, your first priority should be finding such shelter before a fallout warning comes.) The idea behind the fallout warnings being simpler and quieter is that after a nuclear blast, the giant mast-mounted sirens used to send the attack warnings and the systems to activate them may no longer exist; the fallout warning needed to be something which could be quickly improvised even e.g. on the remaining outskirts of a city whose center was flattened by the bomb or something like that.
    #4. I don't know what you mean by "advancements in nuclear technology". There hasn't really been a lot of that since the major test bans of the 20th century came into play; even those nations which are not party to the ban treaties are piggybacking off the existing science, not developing heretofore unheard-of classes of nuclear weapons that revolutionize the implications of a nuclear conflict the way the H bomb did in the 50s. Here in the US our systems still look very much the same as they did 45 or 50 years ago, down to the 8 inch floppies(!) necessary to initiate ICBM launches in many siloes. The rationale is that this older technology, being all very offline and generally low on computer infrastructure, is more difficult or even physically impossible to remotely hack, and thus more secure. It wouldn't surprise me if the Trident subs and other countries' nuclear systems are much the same.
    Hope this helps!!

  • @AnonymousCaveman
    @AnonymousCaveman 2 роки тому +44

    Normally before nuclear war, there would be a build up of serious tensions so these videos would be sent to the public and broadcasted out weeks or days before an attack.

  • @melasnexperience
    @melasnexperience Рік тому +33

    I'm not British, so my only reference to Protect & Survive was a joke on the Young Ones where it ends with Neil painting himself & his clothes white while he's reading the pamphlet. These videos are nightmarish, not just the trappings of them but also the sense that the people making them probably knew that these were largely placebos to make people feel like they were doing something worthwhile to protect themselves.

  • @LucasOliveira-tt2ll
    @LucasOliveira-tt2ll 2 роки тому +78

    In 1982 BBC made a feature on Q.E.D. called "A guide to armageddon" in which describes almost all those measures to be taken and shows a coupe in their fallout shelter drinking tea while a nuke wipes out their home killing them instantly, thus making the shelter quite useless. After that one the aunt beeb produced Threads, that is still the scariest non-scary movie ever made

    • @johnathanrush4666
      @johnathanrush4666 2 роки тому +11

      Threads is Nightmare Fuel

    • @LucasOliveira-tt2ll
      @LucasOliveira-tt2ll 2 роки тому +3

      @@johnathanrush4666 indeed, never had the guts to watch it yet. The Day After still giver me nightmares

    • @faithluv1140
      @faithluv1140 6 місяців тому +2

      Threads has me in a nuclear choke hold. Tht movie was terrifying. N it just wouldn’t end…. it just kept getting worse… even when it got better, it just got worse 😫 I sat quietly for like 30 mins… we can never let this happen, it’s the end. Full stop. It’s dinosaur level end . Threads is much worse than the day after. ABC made them cut almost an hour from tht movie cuz it was too dark for ad revenue….. threads clearly didn’t GAF. Tht movie needs to be shown every year wizard of oz or a Christmas story. We need to see what nuclear war is. We need our leaders to see…. No one will survive. Not one person will be able to rebuild society after something like this. We will starve, die of cancers, rampant disease, crime, corruption. The amount of dead bodies in the street, no where to properly dispose of corpses…. Oceans of contaminated water… ugh. I don’t wanna survive the blast to be honest. I would just rather go with the flow 😮

    • @LucasOliveira-tt2ll
      @LucasOliveira-tt2ll 6 місяців тому

      @@faithluv1140 is been already 10 years that Threads has come to my knowledge and I still don't have courage to watch it

    • @faithluv1140
      @faithluv1140 6 місяців тому

      @@LucasOliveira-tt2llI’m not sure if I’m glad I watched or not yet…. It’s been a week and my UA-cam history is quite disturbing lol don’t watch it alone if u do lol

  • @mistie710
    @mistie710 2 роки тому +75

    As I recall, these were made assuming a similar power of detonation to the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombs and did not consider the use of multiple warheads and multi-megaton bombs that were frighteningly developing in the 70s onwards.
    Also they keep mentioning listening to the radio, ignoring the fact that nearly all radios would be disabled by EMP waves coming from ground zero, always assuming that the people, the radios, the fallout rooms and so forth survived the heat blast and the shock wave.

    • @heathercameron1485
      @heathercameron1485 2 роки тому +3

      Honestly, I'm pretty sure this is just a propaganda piece to keep up morale or to make it look like the government will protect you in a nuclear war if you simply follow the instructions. By the time people realise that help will never come and survivors are completely on their own, it'll be too late anyway.

    • @robwatts9437
      @robwatts9437 11 місяців тому +3

      Being a British army brat in the 70s the British school run by the British military in West Germany we also did duck and cover exercises I didn't duck and cover when asked by a teacher why , my reply was well sir or miss depending on the teacher , there's a army base a few feet from us if a nuclear bomb did explode we would be vaporised to nothing we wouldn't survive.

    • @homerthompson416
      @homerthompson416 9 місяців тому +2

      Nah that can't be true since they talk about H-bombs which have been around since the 50s and which are way bigger than the bombs dropped on Japan. Hell the 50 megaton Tsar Bomba was exploded in 1961. Also the EMP wouldn't be coming from ground zero, as it wouldn't have much effect from an airburst a couple thousand feet above or from a ground burst. You'd detonate a separate warhead 100,000 to 200,000 feet above ground for the EMP to take out communication and electric grids in a wide area. Eg like the bright flash you see overhead in Threads when the first missile exploded over the North Sea.

    • @xdashlydia
      @xdashlydia 5 місяців тому +2

      The nihilistic "why prepare, we'll all be vaporised instantly anyway" attitude, which was common in the '80s among those who thought themselves hip and edgy, disregarded two facts: the survival advice *was* written with A-bombs in mind, and *not everyone will be at Ground Zero* even for an H-Bomb explosion.

    • @fanasful
      @fanasful Місяць тому +1

      @@xdashlydia This. Another thing is that in PSAs like these you can't just say "You're outside? Well you're fucked, good luck".
      And chances are there is someone far enough away who might survive such a situation if they at least try to protect themselves. It's not about saving everyone but as many as possible.

  • @XmorganlamiaX
    @XmorganlamiaX 5 років тому +51

    I've been interested in the Protect & Survive videos since I discovered them a couple of years ago on YT. Not sure why really. I guess I find their mixture of trying to be frank but also trying to not create panic kind of fascinating. Deliciously retro too. That little music jingle though... No matter how many times I watch it, it still creeps me out, lol.
    The opinion on their effectiveness seems to be pretty mixed. Some of the advice is sound, others bits are not, and some vary.
    - Things like sitting under a bridge or lying down with your face covered of course won't be effective within a certain radius when it comes to radiation & fallout, but it could help protect you from flying debris and the instant burns the flash can inflict.
    - Some other parts of the advice? It's busy work. Something to distract you, give you something to concentrate on doing so you have less time to panic, and to give you some hope that you'll survive. Regardless of how close you are to the blast, that's mentally effective, although not physically if you're close enough... Some things will be effective the further away you are from the blast but obviously some things won't do anything.
    - Other bits of advice are only helpful if you live in a certain situation. What if you can't source everything you need depending on the area you live? Everyone else will be trying to do the same thing too, so there will be shortages. If you live in a small house, bungalow or flat then you have no space to store things, take in others or build your door/mattress/bag fort inside a room far from the walls.
    - Of course some parts of it are also just down to lack of research and scientific understanding at the time. The research used for the films and booklet was from the 60s, so the knowledge then wasn't anywhere near like what we have today.
    Ultimately, only the booklet was officially distributed to the public. These films were planned to only be broadcast on TV if an attack was likely within 72 hours (gives you time to paint your windows!), although some clips were used on programmes like Panorama, and some copies managed to leak out in various ways and make the rounds, giving them some attention. The mystery of the "classified-by-government" films enhanced the public's curiosity too.
    Apparently all of the films are currently shown on a loop at the Hack Green Secret Nuclear Bunker in Cheshire, and at the Imperial War Museums in London and Manchester.

    • @DVDandFilmBloke
      @DVDandFilmBloke 2 роки тому +5

      I can confirm that the films are shown on loop in the Manchester Imperial War Museum (in fact that is where I first discovered them). I believe other then the clips shown in Panorama and in the TV movie Threads the Protect and Survive films were classified until at least the early 2000s. They can now be viewed at the National Archive's website and are even included as an extra on the Blu Ray release of When the Wind Blows.

  • @warprecautions631
    @warprecautions631 3 роки тому +59

    24:50 The films were meant to be shown on Tv 3 days before a expected nuclear attack. People were expected to carry out all these tasks during their last few days.

    • @Edgel-in6bs
      @Edgel-in6bs Рік тому +2

      Indeed, albeit it's hard to understand a scenario where MAD was a slow build up and possibility. However angry or desperate politicians were, ending the world was never an option.

    • @warprecautions631
      @warprecautions631 Рік тому +10

      @@Edgel-in6bs The 72 hour warning time was based on estimates by NATO that war with the Warsaw Pact would be a short conventional conflict for a couple days, that would either result in both sides backing down or a nuclear exchange.

    • @notjebbutstillakerbal
      @notjebbutstillakerbal 11 місяців тому +3

      Plus, these instructions were only intended to increase survival chances, not guarantee it.

  • @hedgethesledge
    @hedgethesledge Рік тому +14

    Damn you can really see where analogue horror comes from by watching this video

  • @electragaming4140
    @electragaming4140 2 роки тому +35

    I think the generally accepted scenario, which featured in both “Threads” and “The Day After”, was the first weapon used would be a high yield one, exploded high in the atmosphere, to create an EMP that would knock out communications; rather than going straight into dropping bombs on tactical or strategic targets.

  • @ridbensdale
    @ridbensdale 5 років тому +71

    Great video. Who's for a Threads viewing party?

    • @joannegray5138
      @joannegray5138 5 років тому +6

      Sorry, I'm just off to hang myself before it's too late, lol.

    • @ridbensdale
      @ridbensdale 5 років тому +9

      @@joannegray5138 I'll put you down as a 'maybe' then?

    • @stevenburns5124
      @stevenburns5124 4 роки тому +7

      @@ridbensdale Put me down, I'll bring the Vodka & Sandbags for the inner refuge!

    • @riceboy1701e
      @riceboy1701e 4 роки тому +6

      I'm in!

    • @ridbensdale
      @ridbensdale 4 роки тому +2

      This needs to happen.

  • @blackboardplans
    @blackboardplans Рік тому +92

    The book and movie, When the Wind Blows, was made in direct response to how useless the Protect and Survive help is. It's worth a read or watch, and perfectly captures the aesthetic of these videos, using animated characters over miniature sets.

    • @borntoclimb7116
      @borntoclimb7116 Рік тому +4

      So true

    • @portalfan0438
      @portalfan0438 Рік тому

      i love how this is sent from someone with an f# a# infinity pfp lol. goated album!

    • @maximillianlylat1589
      @maximillianlylat1589 Рік тому +4

      That movie traumatized me hard. But its a fantastic movie showing how truely scary nuclear war really was

    • @Edgel-in6bs
      @Edgel-in6bs Рік тому +3

      One of the best books of all time. The sad state of affairs for most nuclear fiction (WTWB, threads, the day after) is despite being incredibly bleak, they arguably underplay what would happen.

    • @paulorocky
      @paulorocky Рік тому

      Exactly.
      It’d be more practical to tell people to get piss drunk, pass out and await the next life.

  • @SBPau2024
    @SBPau2024 2 роки тому +33

    UK Gov: we need to calm people and make them learn how to survive a nuke.
    Some producer: let's make a faceless family and a creepy soundtrack!
    UK Gov: take my bloody money!

  • @3rdalbum
    @3rdalbum 2 роки тому +13

    Some thoughts:
    1. The videos don't tell you that mains water supply will likely be cut. When you consider this, the idea of keeping a garden hose for firefighting is ludicrous.
    2. No mention of keeping your shoes on, so you can make your way out of the shelter without cutting your feet on debris?
    3. Conserve your radio's battery power - they should have suggested listening on the hour only. That is, if radio stations survive the attack - they might not, but even if they do, the command posts that send the emergency messages to the radio stations would probably be wiped off the face of the earth.
    4. If the idea was to show these videos only three days before an expected attack, imagine the panic buying. It would make 2020 look like child's play.
    5. The Casualties section is deficient to the point of murder. Many Japanese victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki died because the flash instantly dried out their tissues and well-meaning Samaritans let them chug plain water. This rapid rehydration diluted their low electrolyte stocks and caused water to rush into their cells, swelling them, particularly in the brain. This video should have explained how to properly give water to flash victims. As I understand it, you give them water slowly, and mix it with something slightly salty and sweet (a little fruit juice mixed with water?) to avoid the problem. As I say, we already knew this before Hiroshima and we certainly knew this afterwards. Not to tell the public was simply condemning people to death.

  • @TheGerkuman
    @TheGerkuman 5 років тому +47

    I mean, they knew people within the 5 mile radius were dead. This is for the people whose homes get hit by the blast and only slightly get damaged.
    The issue of course is that in a nuclear exchange there's going to be more than one bomb in an area.
    Edit: Also, it apparently takes 20 mins for fallout to get from the epicenter to outside the fire zone. Yeah, I'm not sure how they worked that out either

    • @1981MJD
      @1981MJD 4 роки тому +13

      These videos are for psychological benefit, rather than any real practical benefit. They (gov) knew virtually everyone would be dead after the event. This was to quell the unrest before the event by making people believe something could be done....

    • @patdbean
      @patdbean 4 роки тому

      @A Person remember even in the film threads , a 210mt attack most people survived the blast. Only about 11 were killed directly by the attack blast etc. Fallout is by far the worst thing danger.

    • @patdbean
      @patdbean 4 роки тому

      @A Person quite possible not.

    • @Edgeworthscravat
      @Edgeworthscravat 3 роки тому

      I watched it with bravado that I had already seen most horror films. I was mistaken.

    • @andersonrobotics5608
      @andersonrobotics5608 2 роки тому +1

      @@patdbean you mean only 11 named characters? I think it says millions died in the blast in one of its text cards

  • @Dannypuck
    @Dannypuck 2 роки тому +27

    Glad to see you're an Oddity Archive fan. Ben definitely does great work. He needs more subs.

    • @goodiesguy
      @goodiesguy 2 роки тому +4

      Oddity Archive is good in small doses. His problem is that he tries to be 'funny' instead of just being interesting and informative.

  • @TeamRockHit4
    @TeamRockHit4 5 років тому +23

    Love the logo of the nuclear family

    • @ste887
      @ste887 4 роки тому +7

      "post nuclear more like" - the young ones: episode: bomb

  • @BenPanced
    @BenPanced 2 роки тому +14

    Oh, yes. Just the sort of light viewing one needs before dozing off for the night.

  • @skellertons113
    @skellertons113 2 роки тому +21

    The narrator is the great Patrick Allen, an actor, from South Africa. Known in as "Crane", and "Brett" in Britain. The voice of Currie Motors, "Nice people to to do business with",. Many modern advertisement narrators actually impersonate him, what a tribute to the great man

    • @peterosullivan4764
      @peterosullivan4764 3 місяці тому

      For some reason, I imagine Ennard from FNAF: SL narrating these. (Ennard proceeds to narrate them.)

    • @peterosullivan4764
      @peterosullivan4764 3 місяці тому

      And also, I imagine him doing the sounds from the videos.

  • @maccanorton
    @maccanorton 2 роки тому +16

    I think the advice is better than you think. If you are on the edge of the fall out area, even small actions can make a difference. In some parts of Japan, folks who hid behind trees were much less likely to get cancer than those who didn't.

    • @sambda
      @sambda 2 роки тому +9

      Of course. The procedures were given in order to *increase your probability* of survival, not guarantee it. The instructions given might well help people in grey-area situations. Contrary to the rather glib commentary on this video, the scientists in charge were not idiots. There were two chief thrusts to the advice given - minimise casualties at the time and those developing later symptoms; minimise massed panic and keep people optimistic. The same would apply today.

  • @thetransplanner
    @thetransplanner 2 роки тому +8

    I love that the music you chose for your segments is the tense music from Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?

  • @JAProductions494
    @JAProductions494 2 роки тому +11

    Those of you interested in this video should check out the film When the Wind Blows

  • @leeosborne3793
    @leeosborne3793 3 роки тому +11

    Some great commentary there. I agree with pretty much all of it - the advice given here is full of holes, and it was highly unlikely to be helpful to most people.
    Apparently, a properly constructed fallout room built to these instructions would give enough protection for you to survive *if your house wasn't structurally damaged*, but about 90% of houses in the UK would suffer enough damage for radiation to enter. None of that is any good if you're in a blast zone, though. I'm only about five or six miles from an airport that would have been an extremely likely target, so my house would have been extremely badly damaged at the very least, or destroyed at worst. No way was I coming out of this in one piece!

  • @katiaromero7149
    @katiaromero7149 3 роки тому +11

    To be honest, I watched these before I watched Threads (because I was watching a row of PIFS and PSAS) and they were scary for me. And when I watched the movie it was way worse.
    I live in Mexico, I'm sure we wouldn't get any advise or information before a nuclear attack. One day, we'll just see the mushroom and knew we're effed up. Somehow, I prefer this to happen. I'd never want to live in a world after a nuclear attack (a massive one).

  • @sp0nge1337
    @sp0nge1337 Рік тому +8

    A lot of this advice was meant to give people things to do other than panic and cause chaos in the weeks before the end of the world.

  • @KAGdesignsDOTnet
    @KAGdesignsDOTnet 2 роки тому +6

    pmsl at "dont forget your tin opener!"

  • @crustysconsoles6240
    @crustysconsoles6240 Рік тому +6

    10:23 they did know, this was more made to keep the public at ease and stop panicking than for actual tips

  • @long_dennis
    @long_dennis Місяць тому +3

    1:05 the sound that plays when the words circle around the people make me think of that Caddicarus clip when he pops out of the bin and goes “Hi, I’m Compost”

    • @k1zm3t
      @k1zm3t Місяць тому +1

      CADDICARUS MENTIONED‼️‼️‼️

  • @Rubycon99
    @Rubycon99 2 роки тому +7

    The sweets and biscuits are mostly just about giving you a little morale boost

  • @Haybalemelonhead
    @Haybalemelonhead 2 роки тому +6

    Especially these days, protect & survive it’s very eerie, especially the weird fallout noises

  • @k1zm3t
    @k1zm3t Місяць тому +2

    they play these at the imperial war museum in salford, you can hear them all across the main room

  • @CerealBox64
    @CerealBox64 5 років тому +9

    Gotta love that shrill whizzing nuclear fallout makes... apparently.

  • @loganmacgyver2625
    @loganmacgyver2625 4 роки тому +20

    im so numb that i could watch protect and survive and threads with a straight face, and eat a full course meal through threads

    • @adorkablegina230
      @adorkablegina230 2 роки тому +3

      I ate some BBQ ribs when I watched it.

    • @davidjr3658
      @davidjr3658 2 роки тому

      @@adorkablegina230 I ate a burrito and some chips while watching them.

  • @impermanence4300
    @impermanence4300 Рік тому +2

    IIRC the British government knew we were fuckedin tbe event of a nuclear war. I mean, we're a tiny island. Like 2 or 3 tsar bomba level blasts would level the country. These films were just a placebo meant to manage panic.

  • @CherryTerrier
    @CherryTerrier 5 років тому +10

    I noticed you had full episodes of Through the Dragon's Eye and ended up seeing that the theme tune to that programme was also done by P&S's audio composer Roger Limb.
    Mind blown

  • @datprawn4850
    @datprawn4850 7 місяців тому +3

    The Late Raymond Briggs criticized all this in his book "When The Wind Blows".

  • @Fr4ncM
    @Fr4ncM 4 роки тому +16

    If I'm not mistaken, they show this after the original airing of "Threads"... So just imagine how those poor Brits felt back then.

    • @neyoid
      @neyoid 4 роки тому +12

      This was never broadcasted. This was intended to be broadcasted if attack was expected within 72 hours.

    • @Fr4ncM
      @Fr4ncM 4 роки тому +6

      @@neyoid You're correct, what was aired before "Threads" was an episode of "Panorama" which featured some bits of the PIF. My mistake.

  • @evorock
    @evorock 4 роки тому +12

    I'm in the centre of Portsmouth, and as a grade A target I'd be vaporised, and so would my wife as would my home. So there would no point in doing anything.
    Also, every 6 months or so they test the nuclear war sirens even now, and it is bowel watering

  • @harrygibson8083
    @harrygibson8083 5 років тому +10

    This is my favourite series on your channel keep up the good work. I just love scary videos probably because I am a horror movie enthusiast.

  • @madabbafan
    @madabbafan Місяць тому +1

    As a teacher I was asked by a pupil where the best place to be if there was a nuclear missile hit, my answer of 'next to it, it's quicker' didn't go down well, even if it is true. In the event of one I am of the opinion that the living would envy the dead.

  • @OriginalEntitySourced
    @OriginalEntitySourced 2 місяці тому +1

    I recently watched the entire "series" of these videos elsewhere on UA-cam and it's actually quite surprising how sparse the information is let alone how impractical it is like Adam says when it gets to the food and water section did they think this was actually gonna help people I suppose it's better than nothing but even still it's incredibly scary that this was supposed to help people kind of reminds me of the recent pandemic

  • @Utonian21
    @Utonian21 5 місяців тому +1

    While some of the suggestions within "Protect and Survive" may be flawed, I think the intention was just to give people a general idea of what to do.
    For example, I think they purposely didn't account for your house being destroyed while talking about "inner refuges", because if you're that close to the blast radius, you're mostly likely dead, so the information doesn't really apply to you

  • @nathanforester5993
    @nathanforester5993 5 років тому +6

    I've got an ad which should be mentioned in Video Scaries and that's the SADD (Students Against Destructive Decisions) PSA.

  • @givemethevalium
    @givemethevalium 5 років тому +11

    Thoughtful and well put-together video. Weirdly it made me feel surprisingly positive about the overwhelmingly less serious ‘plight’ we find ourselves in, in 2019

    • @RT-qd8yl
      @RT-qd8yl Рік тому +2

      Still feel that way in 2023? 🙃

    • @impermanence4300
      @impermanence4300 Рік тому

      ​@@RT-qd8ylI was just about to say the same! Covid, economic collapse, Russia-Ukraine war, climate change. At least nuclear war has tbe decency to kill you off quickly!

  • @alexgreenwood404
    @alexgreenwood404 2 роки тому +4

    Regarding the segment on clearing detritus and clutter/painting the windows. This was to be done before a potential attack. The shorts were to be shown on a loop on TV at least 3 days before a potential nuclear attack. So gruesome, the last thing people would expected to do in their last few days would be to paint windows and spring clean the attic

  • @Jac-Man
    @Jac-Man 2 місяці тому +1

    3:57 *lid flips open*
    Caddicarus: Hi, I’m Compost!

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong 6 місяців тому +2

    Protect and Survive gives me Analog Horror vibes. Feels like something straight out of Local 58

  • @arthurvasey
    @arthurvasey 2 роки тому +2

    Luckily, these have never yet been shown - although, given what is happening in Ukraine at the moment, they might - luckily for the VO actor, Patrick Allen, he’s now deceased!
    A simpler solution - encase the UK in a huge, bomb-proof geodesic dome - that way, we can still go about our normal life - watch telly, play music, go swimming, play in the park, whatever - the materials in the dome are completely bomb-proof and fallout-proof!

  • @Naturewalkingthrough
    @Naturewalkingthrough Місяць тому +1

    Have fallout on you? Just brush it off your clothes! Lol

  • @roadwolf2
    @roadwolf2 Рік тому +2

    If you hear the attack sirens whilst out of doors. Kiss your ass goodbye

  • @heathercameron1485
    @heathercameron1485 2 роки тому +4

    The thing is, if there's a heat blast so intense that it sets fire to your house, then no-one is surviving that anyway. Everything in the heat blast's path will be gone. Painting your windows is going to do eff all.

  • @CommonwealthCreations2287
    @CommonwealthCreations2287 Місяць тому +1

    Anyone here from Fallout London?

  • @patdbean
    @patdbean 4 роки тому +9

    Please do not be silly, there would be a period of tension and conventional war before a nuclear exchange. They esemated about 2 to 3 weeks.

  • @marcocasati6953
    @marcocasati6953 2 роки тому +4

    Given the current events I'm watching all the episodes just in case 😳

  • @rugbydazz2264
    @rugbydazz2264 3 роки тому +2

    So nothing new here then, especially the part about getting help from the authorities if you're homeless, try getting help now with no nuclear war!

  • @reddavis4808
    @reddavis4808 4 роки тому +5

    What the hell were they thinking with that bumper logo and that horrible synth sound at the end? Disturbing and off putting.

    • @80sDisneyFan
      @80sDisneyFan 2 роки тому +1

      Well considering the circumstances if these were ever broadcast it's kinda fitting.

    • @charlotteshenkenberger345
      @charlotteshenkenberger345 Рік тому +2

      That might have been the idea...

  • @themoxcast
    @themoxcast 5 років тому +7

    The British government assumed that political tensions would give a 3 week window in which to print and distribute the booklet along with daily broadcasts of these films and radio instructions. I'd love to see the current version of this.

    • @themoxcast
      @themoxcast 5 років тому +5

      Hilariously, in 1980, the Home Office determined that it would take 4 weeks to print the booklet.

    • @neyoid
      @neyoid 4 роки тому +4

      They would broadcast Protect And Survive if nuclear attack was expected within 72 hours.

    • @EdgyNumber1
      @EdgyNumber1 2 роки тому

      The BBC National Attack Warning System, I believe, was shut off recently and had been developed in the 90's. Everyone denied its existence of course but I first found out about it in a Mark Thomas documentary show called 'Secret Map of Britain,' with a little clip explaining NAWS. Recently it became declassified as it was made redundant - and indeed, you can hear that recording on the BBC News website or here on UA-cam.
      Along with that, there was a clip on the show on what to do to contact someone in a general emergency, where cell towers are given priority to emergency services (phone boxes have level 9 clearance so will still work when all other telephone lines are blocked - the London 7/7 incident was a good example of when this,) and to be prepared to evacuate a tube station if you hear a 'Mr Sands' announcement (basically a recorded PA warning to staff to investigate a _potential_ emergency.)
      Secret Map of Britain... ua-cam.com/video/11jc4l3ktsQ/v-deo.html

  • @yotetoob
    @yotetoob Рік тому +2

    The video's OP would not have survived a nuclear attack, beyond dense.

  • @rugbydazz2264
    @rugbydazz2264 3 роки тому +2

    I can't remember where but I heard it referred to as "neglect & die"

  • @PaulFisher
    @PaulFisher 2 роки тому +2

    “a time where the threat of nuclear war was a serious prospect” haha imagine worrying about nuclear war am I right

  • @maxineamelia7549
    @maxineamelia7549 Рік тому +2

    Also.. How am I supposed to put out a fire caused by the blast when I'm not supposed to leave my inner refuge? Did people have longer arms in the 70s or what?

    • @judet5426
      @judet5426 Рік тому

      😂 don't think so (mine were still growing!)

  • @rhysjackson2597
    @rhysjackson2597 2 роки тому +3

    Ended up here with all that's going on in Ukraine at the moment 😬

    • @nahiisham
      @nahiisham 2 роки тому

      Same yo it'll be alright man we will be fine

    • @SBPau2024
      @SBPau2024 2 роки тому +1

      @@nahiisham Putin just put on red alert Russian nuclear force.

    • @samuelfellows6923
      @samuelfellows6923 2 роки тому

      @@nahiisham - I assume that “🇷🇺 [Vladimir Putin]” wants to re-create the USSR/soviet union and that involves annexing the European countries that were once soviet. If he is successful at pulverising 🇺🇦 and having it surrender and Belarus - being pro-Russian, annexe’s itself and Vladimir decides to invade the other European countries that have NATO membership, 😱 - then World War 3 would start as we - the West, would be involved with that War. And we would have a modern version of those protect & survive videos messaged to our smartphones ⚠️

  • @homerthompson416
    @homerthompson416 9 місяців тому +1

    I had no idea about this series and just the jingle at the end of each video sent a chill down my spine first hearing it in Threads.

  • @christopherpeden547
    @christopherpeden547 2 роки тому +1

    oh my giddy aunt this has given me the fear - I'm totally unprepared for the impending armageddon my attic is full of waste paper : back copies of Smash Hits n Freezer Digest Monthly in my larder several bags of Discos n some United bars see you in the afterlife

  • @adammclaughlin845
    @adammclaughlin845 Рік тому +2

    The UK makes the scariest dramas, the scariest paranormal documentaries, the scariest films and the scariest survival manuals.

  • @smallredcow918
    @smallredcow918 3 роки тому +2

    The music at the end sounds like what you would've had for an old VHS logo then

  • @3rdalbum
    @3rdalbum 2 роки тому +2

    26:43 This is great advice during the Covid-19 pandemic too.

  • @j0hnf_uk
    @j0hnf_uk 2 роки тому +4

    I think this was more to give people something to do rather than actually help to survive in the event of a nuclear attack. Things like closing your windows and drawing the curtains, for example, aren't going to do anything to help against a 10 megaton blast.

    • @elizabethfrohn-hengst296
      @elizabethfrohn-hengst296 2 роки тому +2

      @Steven Universe not necessarily, even if there was a 10 megaton blast there would still be people far enough away where the only major immediate concern is fallout all of these steps would help against that. If you were in one of the more likely to get hit areas then it kinda was but these actions would've saved people's lives further away from the blast

    • @TheUplinkExperiment
      @TheUplinkExperiment 4 місяці тому +1

      yeah this wasnt exactly made with saving the people at ground zero in mind mate, those little things help when you arent in the literal fireball

  • @svetlanarebane
    @svetlanarebane 3 роки тому +3

    I hate the sound the fallout makes

  • @scrambled5948
    @scrambled5948 5 років тому +12

    This kind of reminds me of when the wind blows

    • @dearone1
      @dearone1 5 років тому +6

      I wasn't even born during the 80s nuclear stuff, but When the Wind Blows scares the shit out of me. I cry every single time I watch it.

    • @neyoid
      @neyoid 4 роки тому +1

      @@dearone1 Hilda and James didn't deserve all that.

    • @EddieGaster
      @EddieGaster 3 роки тому +1

      Don't forget the BBC docudrama Threads which came out in 1984.

  • @Regulus985
    @Regulus985 2 роки тому +1

    I think you’re totally missing the point of these videos and the advise in them, they weren’t just to help and inform, they were to give the illusion of survival, the chances were very low but if the population had a plan and advice to follow they felt better, they felt prepared. It’s in the mind.

  • @WarrenCromartie2
    @WarrenCromartie2 2 роки тому +1

    This civil defence initiative is not active anymore. In fact, there is no longer an active civil defence programme worth speaking of. I actually submitted a FOI request to the MOD about 3 months ago, asking for details of any government plans for civil defence in the event of war. They replied a month later saying they were 'unable to source any relevant information in response to my request' or words to that effect... I was a teenager in the 80's and remember the constant references to nuclear weapons and the threat of war, on the news, in documentaries and even TV drama. Government ministers were frequently questioned as to why we didn't have a serious civil defence programme, and they were quite candid in their response. It would be too expensive to provide shelters for every household in the country, and that cost had to be weighed up against the actual probability of nuclear war, which despite the 'scaremongering' was broadly deemed to be low. The cost of the civil defence programme at the time (Protect & Survive etc) worked out about 50p per head of population. In reality, Protect & Survive would have been moderately effective in areas more than 9 miles or so from targets, but overall very few people would survive in cities or areas close to targets. It was believed there was around 160 targets in the UK, and in an all out attack more than one weapon would likely have been assigned to each target, in the expectation that some would fail to detonate. Surviving an attack would have brought problems for the survivors and the authorities trying to feed and shelter them, and the grim reality was that the more people who died, the better; in terms of providing for those who were left. I suspect this is why there is no programme any more, and essentially we are on our own, AND living in an age where nuclear war is actually more likely than it was at the height of the cold war. Sleep on that ;-)

  • @isabellaangeline2175
    @isabellaangeline2175 2 роки тому +1

    Why would anyone want to survive? Life afterwards would be absolutely miserable. I’d rather stand outside and wait for a quick death.

  • @seanbrown453
    @seanbrown453 2 місяці тому

    Given how powerful current nuclear weapons this protect and dubbed is more like protect and sutbibe but almost certainly die.

  • @Gojiro7
    @Gojiro7 4 місяці тому

    You got to love that back then they honestly suggested to us that building a pillow fort what help you survive a nuclear fallout ...... Is it any Wonder so many made fun of this crap logic given to the public just to keep them from stressing themselves into a coma

  • @chrishenniker5944
    @chrishenniker5944 4 роки тому +2

    This would be transferable to a conventional attack, or an industrial accident, for that matter. If there's an artillery barrage on a coastal town, this could work quite well.

  • @HollowTeone
    @HollowTeone 4 місяці тому

    Protect and Survive? More like *Neglect and Die*. Pretty sure someone else also said this.

  • @Cyber_Horse_Studios87
    @Cyber_Horse_Studios87 4 місяці тому

    And now here we are in 2024… where this is kinda starting back all up again at this point… though to be fair, did it ever really stop even after the Cold War ended? Cause it sure doesn’t feel like it…

  • @tarrfarmer
    @tarrfarmer 4 місяці тому

    The attack sirens and all clear sirens sound like they were repurposed air-raid sirens used during WWII

  • @shonacourt9750
    @shonacourt9750 4 місяці тому

    Sad thing is, some people thought that fallout made a sound after watching this😢😢

  • @randomperson12735
    @randomperson12735 6 місяців тому

    Anybody know where I can get that leaflet they were talking about? I fancy a bit of bedtime reading.

  • @erickpaolosantos7016
    @erickpaolosantos7016 4 роки тому +2

    Oddity Archive brought me here

  • @Thelavenderghost
    @Thelavenderghost 2 місяці тому

    Just imagined these in a fallout game set in the 70s. That would be awesome.

  • @chriswaring5565
    @chriswaring5565 Рік тому

    IF YOU HAVE A BODY IN THE HOUSE FOR MORE THAN 5DAYS IT WILL START TO STINK!!!!!!!!!

  • @AnnLiOz
    @AnnLiOz 3 роки тому +1

    ...But we did get the leaflet through the letterbox of Protect and Survive.........A few years ago I visited the nuclear bunker at Klevedon Hatch, and they had these going round on a loop on a tv, as well a documentary about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.....These are scary vids, esp the sound effects.

  • @viewsfromtherebelbase
    @viewsfromtherebelbase 3 місяці тому

    Watching this in 2024 & it's still relevant today.

  • @sassy-savvy
    @sassy-savvy 3 місяці тому

    14:55 Maybe it makes the city body cleanup easier? 😅

  • @petedallas3044
    @petedallas3044 6 місяців тому

    There is no attack warning siren system in the uk now.

  • @flowersofthefield340
    @flowersofthefield340 4 місяці тому

    ..................... Showtime 🎦 .....................

  • @stevencross8877
    @stevencross8877 4 роки тому +1

    I watched this In 2013 when I was 10 bc I started watching eas videos when I was 9
    Not scary