What would happen if Russia collapsed?

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  • @CaspianReport
    @CaspianReport  3 роки тому +349

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    • @noahsolomon726
      @noahsolomon726 3 роки тому +23

      The fact that you believe that Navalny is a credible political force in Russian politics kind of undermines your credibility.

    • @thomasluck5955
      @thomasluck5955 3 роки тому +12

      @@noahsolomon726 elaborate what you mean? You’d be a fool to say AN didn’t have any influence on the Russian political sphere

    • @Zeyede_Seyum
      @Zeyede_Seyum 3 роки тому +4

      @@noahsolomon726 *Where did he said that?*

    • @YathishShamaraj
      @YathishShamaraj 3 роки тому +8

      Can you make a similar video on USA please??.... There's a civil war brewing...

    • @sebastianbratu1502
      @sebastianbratu1502 3 роки тому +4

      You conveniently leave out Romania, as usual. It would unite with Moldova and the Black Sea is far from being just a Turkish lake. Also, Poland and Turkey cannot work together without Romania. The influence of Romania would also increase inside the Craiova Group, somebody needs to take up the mantle of protecting the Orthodox world and faith, and after Russia, Romania is the only country that can do that. I could go on and on, but you'll see.

  • @user-cj1br1hx9q
    @user-cj1br1hx9q 3 роки тому +8779

    Russian car crash compilations will hold the country together strongly

  • @Sierra-208
    @Sierra-208 2 роки тому +2433

    After watching this, I feel like Russia is stuck in a vicious cycle of humiliation, collapse, and reformation.

    • @Poppycockify
      @Poppycockify 2 роки тому +578

      There’s an old joke that says Russia’s entire history can be summed up in five words; “And then it got worse.”

    • @lol-qr1ew
      @lol-qr1ew 2 роки тому +30

      Well yeah it was fun. But now they need to be gone for good. We need to dismantle all the Russian republics and have no more Russia. They are too big too powerful for them to exist any longer.

    • @lol-qr1ew
      @lol-qr1ew 2 роки тому +41

      @@dmytrosednev9867 Good they should try to destroy Russia. It’s been nothing but a threat to this earth. They spread communism across the entire planet. Forced us into a Cold War for 45 years. And now they threaten world war 3 with Ukraine and their alliance with China.

    • @memespeech
      @memespeech 2 роки тому +62

      so much eurocentric and uscentric bias

    • @Maynard0504
      @Maynard0504 2 роки тому +212

      because it shouldnt exist based on modern geopolitical realities.
      in the age of nation-states a whirlpool of different ethnicities, religious minorities and a wide variety of cultures spread across the largest landmass on the planet can not be controlled from a single centralized point in eastern europe.
      by all measures russia either exists as an authoritarian state that internally reinforces its own nationalism or it collapses quickly.
      a similar problem that china is facing but is dealing with very successfully (a process called sinicization/sinofication which is currently underway, albeit in a modern form in Xinjiang).
      people forget that the US is a very unique country when it comes unifying an enormous number of people under a common national identity across an (almost) entire continent.

  • @liamwinter4512
    @liamwinter4512 3 роки тому +2965

    Mongolia's navy will single handedly stop Russia's Easter front.

  • @edalder2000
    @edalder2000 2 роки тому +540

    Russian History seems a repeat of the phrase "And then things got much worse."

    • @DPtheOG
      @DPtheOG 2 роки тому +8

      "And you thought we were bad news," says a Viking raider.

    • @BlueHooloovoo
      @BlueHooloovoo 2 роки тому +1

      Pretty much.

    • @dough6759
      @dough6759 2 роки тому +2

      You gave me a good chuckle! How true, though!

    • @davidhollenshead4892
      @davidhollenshead4892 2 роки тому +2

      The tittle should be changed to "What happens now that the Russia Federation is Collapsing again..."

    • @headoverheels88
      @headoverheels88 2 роки тому +11

      The old Russian joke: "we thought we had hit rock bottom, until someone knocked from down below."

  • @Joker-yw9hl
    @Joker-yw9hl 3 роки тому +724

    What happens to the nuclear arsenal would be the primary concern

    • @PyrusFlameborn
      @PyrusFlameborn 3 роки тому +96

      When the USSR collapsed the the countries whose territories stockpiles and facilities happened to be in just took de facto control.
      This is how Ukraine got a couple nukes. Ukraine later traded the nukes back to Russia in return for a guarantee of independence and acceptance of borders.

    • @YanPagh
      @YanPagh 3 роки тому +23

      It would just happen what has been done before, Russia (now on the East only) gets all their decaying nukes so they can sit on them untill the radiation from the warheads exausts - or if the country collapses they are properly deactivated (with fiscalization from international bureaus pertaining the matter) during the process. There won't be any warhead simply "disappearing" without causing the other countries to track down and wreck any country trying to apropriate themselves of such materials, see how iran or NK did on this sense if you doubt me. (Iraniam marshal simply disentegrated with all his staff with one drone strike, NK nuclear research center bunker imploded)
      Russia is a lovely country and its people are the best, however the repression and centralization is always the cause of their demise, not what keeps it together. Russian people keep it together, an overwhelming bureaucratic administration always ruins it.

    • @andrerothweiler9191
      @andrerothweiler9191 3 роки тому +16

      They would force Russia to give all nukes, West would not do same mistake again as in 1991

    • @bernardogontijo3827
      @bernardogontijo3827 3 роки тому +12

      @@YanPagh I kind of agree with you. But we gotta to remember ourselves that the Russian people gives 0 fucks about democracy, "freedom" or balance of power. These are western values, we can't force them upon peoples and cultures (just look at Iraq's and Afghanistan's tragedies).

    • @bagamax
      @bagamax 3 роки тому +18

      @@andrerothweiler9191 and how you are planning to force someone that has a nuke, umnik?

  • @bloodrain980
    @bloodrain980 2 роки тому +1269

    Feels like the very concept of a "best-case scenario" went out the window the moment Ukraine was invaded.

    • @RuLeZ1988
      @RuLeZ1988 2 роки тому +45

      You mean the moment when Putin showed his real face of dictatorship and gives a f*** about humanity. The reason why a big number of russian citizens are poor and the overall economic was and is still very weak over the last several years, is because of Putins way to govern his citizens and his country. Now that he does not hide anymore what his real intentions are, I can confidentially say that this is all Putin's fault during his 16 years (almost 17) of presidency, why russia is falling again.

    • @bloodrain980
      @bloodrain980 2 роки тому +31

      I mean the moment when the cycle of escalating insecurity was intensified due to the invasion. The end result will be undesirable no matter what anyone does at this point. Who the responsible party is, is a valid discussion but a separate one from the context of my statement.

    • @DominikPinkas
      @DominikPinkas 2 роки тому +21

      @@bloodrain980 Fully agree that however this eventually plays out, we're all gonna be worse off. The blame however goes firmly to Putin himself. We can debate what prompted him to make the decision, but he had choice. And any justification his executive presents can't be taken at face value, they made blatant lie an everyday part of their diplomatic repertoire.

    • @bloodrain980
      @bloodrain980 2 роки тому +4

      I can't argue with that. I just don't find the question of blame to be very useful since there are still systems in place to bring other megalomaniacs to power - not just in Russia. I am also concerned about how many bad decisions will be justified in the upcoming years by shifting political responsibility onto the actions of Putin. There is no question at all regarding who's to blame for the invasion but there are also no clear-cut responses where we could justifiably say "we had to do it because of Putin". That's why I'd rather keep the matter of responsibility for the current situation and any debate about future scenarios separate.

    • @bloodrain980
      @bloodrain980 2 роки тому +12

      The only hope to whom? Of course I would prefer the discontinuation of de facto authoritarian regimes and the implementation of democratic rule in it's stead but if the current system of governance in Russia would collapse and if the total collapse of the Russian Federation wouldn't take place as a result (as described in this video), then dominance over the resources of Russia would still push Western powers (mostly the US) to get involved in the transition. This would either result in a political and cultural repression and moves involving the instalment of political powers both friendly to the West and willing to open channels for resource exploitation in return for assistance in consolidating power (as Western powers are wont to do - as the US even did in Ukraine), or a new space for proxy conflict between the West and China (if India doesn't get involved in an attempt to solidify it's position as a new superpower). All of this is speculation, of course, but there is abundant historical precedent for something like this happening and no precedent I can think of where this hasn't happened (but I'm not a historian). There's still also the matter of the level of power held by oligarchs in Russia, who would hold military sway even in the case of a civil uprising.. I guess the "best case scenario" overall would be if all people of the world would be sick of the systems of power that allow those who consolidate it to rule without any responsibility or accountability. An arousing ideal but meaningless enough to not be considered as a scenario at all. Just feel like that at this point any scenario leads to an outcome that would be highly unfortunate in one way or another, with the caveat that there would still be powerful parties that would benefit from certain scenarios, so "no best-case scenarios" in this context and in my argument only applies to civil society.
      Although, again, it's just an educated guess (mental gymnastics and speculation), so who knows.

  • @DireAvenger001
    @DireAvenger001 3 роки тому +2919

    Maybe Belarus would take another shot at trying to annex Russia 😈

    • @zinedinezethro9157
      @zinedinezethro9157 3 роки тому +331

      And they can finally add that missing -sia to their name and become the True B E L A R U S S I A

    • @ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
      @ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 3 роки тому +186

      Belarus annexes the West
      Mongolia annexes the east.

    • @Altermerea
      @Altermerea 3 роки тому +122

      @@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 And the Second Mongol Empire is born.

    • @antonioklaic4839
      @antonioklaic4839 3 роки тому +30

      @@platinovypersik so then it's white Russia because they're caucasian amd not asian?

    • @gazhevski
      @gazhevski 3 роки тому +9

      I think Lukashenko will continue putting himself in the corner, forcing him into Russian hands

  • @simonphoenix3789
    @simonphoenix3789 2 роки тому +106

    umm one correction here: The Russian citizens did not turn against the Tsar because they lost WW1. They were already well on their way to revolution before that happened, and he was forced to abdicate while Russia was still fighting. In fact, Russia kept on fighting for a while after, only signing the treaty of Brest-Litovsk when the Soviets managed to take power. And Germany intentionally released Lenin back into Russia hoping to undermine the new government there, which worked splendidly for them (until a couple decades later at least).
    And it had less to do with Nicholas being liberal than it did his numerous poor decisions and the mismanagement under his wife who alienated herself by listening to Rasputin while he was off at the front.

    • @lisaking4386
      @lisaking4386 2 роки тому

      Yes, Rasputin did help bring about the overthrow of the Tsar. Very interesting his name was RasPUITN. Perhaps there is such a thing as reincarnation. Rasputin misjudged his power within the state and his power grab and undue influence with the Tsarina was not appreciated by many Russians. The man had delusions of grandeur, sound familiar?

    • @cloutmastermemes2007
      @cloutmastermemes2007 2 роки тому

      Honestly you’re correct the tsars wife and rasputin are massive reasons for the collapse of imperial Russia. For one she wasn’t even a Russian by blood and the pissed the citizens off. Also rasputin was a charlatan and that pissed a lot of aristocracy off.

    • @TheBandit7613
      @TheBandit7613 2 роки тому

      Another correction, Russia does not have 6000 nukes, ready to deploy.
      More like 1500. Nukes degrade quickly and are expensive to maintain. Hydrogen nukes lose 50% every 20 years.
      Of course, Russia lies. SO they want people to think they have 6000, but they don't. Not even close.

    • @dough6759
      @dough6759 2 роки тому

      All 3 of your replies are missing for some reason!

    • @johnvonundzu2170
      @johnvonundzu2170 2 роки тому +9

      True, by 1917 Russia had failed to defeat Germany - as had Britain & France; but the army hadn't collapsed or lost the war. Russia's social / economic structure was unable to withstand the various pressures of a prolonged war with no end in sight. Then rumors of corruption, German spies at the top, Rasputin/the Empress, the Tsar's refusal to make any systemic change, shortages, inflation - and only a spark was needed for revolution. Then came February/March 1917.

  • @princeamori
    @princeamori 3 роки тому +5077

    Caspian Report: What would happen if Russia collapsed.
    Russian Neighbors: What would happen if Russia expands.

    • @icewolfmaxy9247
      @icewolfmaxy9247 3 роки тому +85

      nothing good for Russia for sure))

    • @Kale-Sims
      @Kale-Sims 3 роки тому +386

      Imagine a country that cant take care of it's own people living in poverty, wants to take your country... LOL

    • @MrFrazer5800
      @MrFrazer5800 3 роки тому +113

      @@Kale-Sims countrys with poor populations (serfs) often have incredible armys. because nobody can compete while treating their own people humane

    • @KleptomaniacJames
      @KleptomaniacJames 3 роки тому +52

      @@MrFrazer5800 cheap workers are great. the power is dependent on how geared the nation is towards its military industrial complex. Russia is strong not because of their economy, but because their hardware is comparable to US hardware and far FAR cheaper.

    • @MrFrazer5800
      @MrFrazer5800 3 роки тому +60

      @@KleptomaniacJames a naval engineer in Russia earns the equivalent of 700 usd. Which is a shit ton in Russia so you can live like a God especially because your quarter good ect is all covered by the military. Now look at what the US pays a single foot solider for example. That's why they are so into the whole training militias all over the world and arming them. Because they want to save money.

  • @mikesaunders1561
    @mikesaunders1561 3 роки тому +1847

    This analysis misses the most likely reason for a meltdown, namely : a dysfunctional transition of power post-Putin. And Putin's demise could come about by any number of conditions. If he voluntarily cedes control to a successor that would (presumably) prevent a dysfunctional transition. But if the transition occurs under any other circumstances it could get real messy.

    • @AlternativaRed
      @AlternativaRed 3 роки тому +180

      Correct. But even with Putin dead, what the speaker is pointing out is that by itself the Russian nation and state are just too strong to disintegrate over a political crisis. You may have chaos, you may have unrest and conflict, in the end Russia will just reassemble.

    • @martinsmith9054
      @martinsmith9054 3 роки тому +52

      A pertinent observation. The Putin succession will be the most complex situation Russia will face in the future, barring WW3 or extra-terrestrial disclosure (pun intended).

    • @plazmica0323
      @plazmica0323 3 роки тому +5

      @Im too tired Do you know how long Russian Epire bigger than todays Russia existed lol ?

    • @markonikolic7957
      @markonikolic7957 3 роки тому +50

      @Im too tired Yes but in the eyes of the people RF is just an extensions of the USSR and the Russian Empire. It's ingrained in the conscience of the people that all that territory is one country - Russia. The point is when Putin dies and if the transition of power isn't peaceful it's unlikely that a civil war will start and that different warlords would control parts of the country. What might happen is that you'd have a different government every few years that gets dethroned in a coup when some new opposition gains power. But tbh I don't think that will happen, Putin probably has or will have a successor when he dies.

    • @pedrorequio5515
      @pedrorequio5515 3 роки тому +42

      Believe me there will be a Russia after Putin transition, there are already factions forming, they are mostly quiet while Putin is alive. Their biggest challenges will be the deficiencies he will let behind, Russia has gone a long way from where it was 20 years ago, but either they increase their hard-line aprouch or star to form a more European like social system. In the end it will still be a very tradicionalist and conservative country.

  • @pat8988
    @pat8988 2 роки тому +746

    This is even more interesting given the current context of the Ukraine invasion and Putin’s behavior.

    • @jeffbenton6183
      @jeffbenton6183 2 роки тому +45

      Especially given the devestating economic sanctions that ensued.

    • @JackoBanon1
      @JackoBanon1 2 роки тому +14

      With the collapse of Russian economy caused by sanctions and isolation the Russian population might uprise and force Putin to flee while other thugs see their chance come to take over the country.
      For this case China as 'peace keeper' is patiently waiting to grab the ressourceful provinces in the East and Siberia to exploit them for themselves because almost nobody to protest is living there anyway.

    • @genkiferal7178
      @genkiferal7178 2 роки тому

      @@JackoBanon1 the other thugs are the USA. they want those minerals to make more microchips. creating a technocracy requires lots of microchips. Ukraine supplies between 50 to 70% of the world's neon gas needed for microchips.

    • @Rytoast99
      @Rytoast99 2 роки тому +9

      @@genkiferal7178 naw we can continue to cheaply import those rare earth elements and minerals from the mining regions in the transpacific belt in Mexico. A lot closer, and relations have been long established

    • @genkiferal7178
      @genkiferal7178 2 роки тому +4

      @@Rytoast99 I hope you are correct and thank you for telling the region. I will look it up.

  • @k29king1
    @k29king1 2 роки тому +118

    A bit over a year after this video was released, we’ve learned that this despite its exceptional value of information is ultimately proven not to age well. Russia has embarrassed itself with its surprisingly weak military against a much smaller opponent that is doing so well that Russia’s original plans can never be met in Ukraine forcing Russian forces to retreat to try and fight for scraps instead of the entire country. Russian power is a facade. They have no power, and with a GDP smaller than that of the city of New York City, I believe Russia is indeed on its way to total and complete collapse as we know it.

    • @josesousa272
      @josesousa272 2 роки тому +10

      The war still didn't end. Many things can still happen.

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 2 роки тому

      It started when the USSR was on its legs and the better and smarter people from the other lands within the USSR recreated their own countries, leaving the husk that is the Russian Federation in the hands of Wall Street, former members of the CPSU and the Russian Mafia ; all of the other, smarter people left to go abroad. Hell, more of them are living in the other former Soviet Republics today!
      The RF was stillborn from the jump, and Putin and his cronies just makes it more obvious that's always was the case.

    • @omargj1
      @omargj1 2 роки тому +25

      @@josesousa272 Yes Russia can self humiliatry even in a worse way along showing they are the same if not worse than the Nazis.

    • @WestOfEarth
      @WestOfEarth 2 роки тому +10

      I was thinking the same thing. I've watched some of Caspian's analysis before and thought they were quite good. But this analysis of Russia has proven to be incorrect. Pretty sure Poland isn't going to invade Ukraine. A destablized Russia might bring about changes in Belarus authoritarian regime.
      The glaring omission from this analysis is the reactions of Finland and Sweden.

    • @omargj1
      @omargj1 2 роки тому +8

      @@WestOfEarth If Poland gets involved it would be because NATO gets involved and in such scenario Poland would be fighting Russia and Belaruss along the rest of NATO.
      Beside Poland has been one of the biggest and better supporters of Ukraine in this war so far.

  • @CJusticeHappen21
    @CJusticeHappen21 3 роки тому +3082

    *Russia, exists:* "This is bad."
    *Russia, ceases to exist:* _"This is worse!"_

    • @bussolini6307
      @bussolini6307 3 роки тому +24

      Lmao

    • @BANDERAAAAAA
      @BANDERAAAAAA 3 роки тому +134

      New 50 countries will be finaly free from Moscow it's good

    • @heroicbreak2952
      @heroicbreak2952 3 роки тому +33

      Enter vs Fuck go back

    • @alexgaming8834
      @alexgaming8834 3 роки тому +172

      @@BANDERAAAAAA shut up

    • @BANDERAAAAAA
      @BANDERAAAAAA 3 роки тому +57

      @@alexgaming8834 tell me your position, you happy to be democracy and independent?

  • @sierranexi
    @sierranexi 2 роки тому +829

    "The greatest danger of the 21st century is a weak, fragmented Russia".
    2022: challenge accepted

    • @Strydr8105
      @Strydr8105 2 роки тому +3

      First off one should realize your leader is a tyrant when he forces the country to make him Supreme leader for the next 20 yrs! Russia will not collapse there a several viable, proud and competent candidates who would be fair and just and quite able to run the country.

    • @Strydr8105
      @Strydr8105 2 роки тому +1

      The clear danger in every century are tyrants that rape and pillage, thereown, and there neighbors ! How does one not see that, history has many examples...do you not read history?

    • @painmt651
      @painmt651 2 роки тому +1

      Imagine what would happen if THE USA was to “dissolve” into separate countries..... that is what you would call DISRUPTIVE!

    • @Strydr8105
      @Strydr8105 2 роки тому +16

      @@painmt651 here is why that would never happen, as Americans we enjoy, our right for those freedoms, we are free to visit, move, and reside in any state in the union. Also with our state election process, there is no plausible way for any one state official to declare themselves, Supreme leader. The system is by far no way perfect, but it works. Democracy in America thrives, the people vote there,( in there personal opinion,) the best candidate to office. Again this process inhibits the threat of tyranny. And if there is a conflict between stated, we discuss it, we don't go to war, and kill innocent citizens to make our point,or for monetary gains. Yes there was a civil war, but innocent people, weren't targeted. And the issue was slavery!

    • @namesdontmatter885
      @namesdontmatter885 2 роки тому +16

      @@Strydr8105 bro paint was just trying to make a joke why are writing a whole paragraph to just disprove him.

  • @tylerw6438
    @tylerw6438 2 роки тому +504

    This video became more relevant than anticipated

    • @tama3442
      @tama3442 2 роки тому +2

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    • @konankunoichi94
      @konankunoichi94 2 роки тому

      @@tama3442 Jesus Christ won't do anything. Praying to God will only give you a false sense of security. Make your own change. Donate. Volunteer. Work in services that benefit the progression of positive values in society. Dont expect some god to bring you sollace and peace of mind while thousands of civilians are bombed to death. While prisoners die of abuse in NK. While the Taliban, russians and Chinese stamp out political opposition through brute force. While millions or billions of people do nothing because "god will fix this." If the bibles god really existed, he MADE this! "It was gods will I ran over the baby in the driveway this morning." - George Carlin.
      Thats all I need to say when people preach about god's love

    • @cally77777
      @cally77777 2 роки тому +9

      @@tama3442 There is unfortunately no exact way of reporting this irrelevant comment, since it doesn't count as commercial, and maybe isn't spam. But take your message elsewhere, mate, its got no place in this thread. Just have a look at the title, and then look what you have written. Is there any relation between the two? No, so please desist from foisting your religion on other people.

    • @tylerm8874
      @tylerm8874 2 роки тому

      this video became relevant

    • @MayJesusLordSaveYourAss
      @MayJesusLordSaveYourAss 2 роки тому +7

      @@tama3442 This is not a church mate.

  • @NuncNuncNuncNunc
    @NuncNuncNuncNunc 2 роки тому +61

    Analysis feels like it buys a bit too much into a "Russian World" view that Russia is somehow keeping both Europe and Asia stable by its existence when it is the largest threat to peace in the region both historically and in the early 2022 present.

    • @simonmeszaros2770
      @simonmeszaros2770 2 роки тому +1

      I quite agree with analysis. Considering how russia operates itself. Wold be interested more in the power fabric, but its always hidden and now it seems like it is operated by fsb, before it was kgb, čeka and tsarist secret police... considering this similarities and national lines of division now, russia should still be stable even whitout projecting its power outwards to its satelites..

    • @SeattlePioneer
      @SeattlePioneer 2 роки тому

      One of the functions of empires is to squelch emerging ethnic groups and create stability where no stability wants to exist.
      Consider that the Middle East, for CENTURIES was controlled by the Ottoman Empire which repressed those countries and ethnic groups which have been fighting each other since the end of WWI when France and Britain kicked the Turks out, figuring they could do a better job. They couldn't. Neither has the American World Empire.
      Now imagine the American World Empire trying to prevent dozens of ethnic groups in the Eurasian heartland from blowing each other, and the world, up with nuclear weapons. No thanks! We NEED a strong Russia!

    • @КлановецПерси
      @КлановецПерси 2 роки тому +7

      And you are not dangerous? Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia, Afganistan. No?

    • @Cynthia_Blackraven_666
      @Cynthia_Blackraven_666 2 роки тому

      @@КлановецПерси Fuck ruZZia and fuck SERBIA.

    • @ДианаВоробец-з2о
      @ДианаВоробец-з2о 2 роки тому +2

      First look at yourself before talking about us.

  • @ricardorubio8168
    @ricardorubio8168 3 роки тому +1358

    Definitely would like to see more "what if [country] collapsed" videos

    • @IAtarenI
      @IAtarenI 3 роки тому +46

      Ye, but it's only interesting when it's superpowers like Russia

    • @unknown6656
      @unknown6656 3 роки тому +13

      Yep, I'd like to see a video series on (hypothetical) nation collapses, too.

    • @AlexKolmak
      @AlexKolmak 3 роки тому +118

      @@IAtarenI I would like to see what would happen in the world if the United States were suddenly disunited

    • @makky6239
      @makky6239 3 роки тому +37

      @@IAtarenI Brazil would be a good one, would their neighbors invade? Or some country ready to take the Amazon rainforest and it's resources? Like France right there with french Guiana

    • @shryggur
      @shryggur 3 роки тому +44

      What if *major geopolitical catastrophe happened* is good by any means.
      What if the EU collapsed? What if China and India went to war? What if Israel nuked someone? What if Greenland conquered the Northern hemisphere?

  • @underworldguardian704
    @underworldguardian704 3 роки тому +980

    Why replace an enemy you know, with an enemy you don’t know.

    • @belchbelch667
      @belchbelch667 3 роки тому +19

      Just dont give them humanitarian aid this time, alright? Let them eat each other out.

    • @lamalien2276
      @lamalien2276 3 роки тому +6

      Won't stop the democrats from trying.

    • @kabulykos
      @kabulykos 3 роки тому +33

      ​@@belchbelch667 Honestly cannot tell if you knew that was a euphemism for a certain sexual activity before you typed it

    • @belchbelch667
      @belchbelch667 3 роки тому +3

      @@kabulykos did not know. Thanks!

    • @dbass4973
      @dbass4973 3 роки тому +6

      we are not enemies though. and some russians do remember the humanitarian aid and thankful for that.

  • @theduke7539
    @theduke7539 2 роки тому +86

    This is aging very, interestingly.

  • @MrSteve280
    @MrSteve280 2 роки тому +57

    I've always felt that Russia's greatest weakness was geography. Inherent to modern political stability is the ability to protect your borders. Russian cannot fully protect its borders (the reason why it's been in love with satellite/buffer states for so long). Historically, this didn't matter since countries could pretty much remain cultural/political isolationist and such vast land and borders like Russia has actually served as a protective barrier in itself. But transportation and technology has changed what borders use to mean and the global economic juggernaut means we all have to play nice. We're now in a race for limited resources and this will place Russia in the crosshairs of the many bordering (and non-bordering, for that matter) countries that will eye their resources as both abundant and imbalanced to global needs. Things like their internal cultural and political influences will pale in comparison to a world that wants Russia's stuff. It's the global economy that's calling the shots now.

    • @robertw1871
      @robertw1871 2 роки тому

      Borders? Who in their right mind is trying to cross their border…. Oh, I got you, yeah one must keep in all those who would flee a Soviet dictatorship…

    • @MrSteve280
      @MrSteve280 2 роки тому +3

      ​@@robertw1871 My sister and I had a border in the back seat of our car when we were little. That didn't work either. Many wars were fought over violations.

    • @robertw1871
      @robertw1871 2 роки тому +1

      @@MrSteve280 Haha

    • @mrD66M
      @mrD66M Рік тому +1

      Why is there a need for a country of such low population density to be that big, and why it cannot work peacefully with its neighbours and other nations..
      The "security demands" of such a country are incompatible with the global trade framework. Russia should be one fifth or less of its current size. Sooner would the continent of Africa become one nation, than the democratic/globalized world cede on these requirements.

    • @MrSteve280
      @MrSteve280 Рік тому

      @@mrD66M Like most of Canada, I can only imagine the land was originally too hostile for anyone to want. Same for Brazil. The movie Crocodile Dundee summed up the idea of land being claimed and belonging to people or countries pretty well; "It's like two fleas arguing over who owns the dog they live on".

  • @Mrbriangalvan
    @Mrbriangalvan 3 роки тому +767

    I could see Estonia invading and taking over the entire continent.

    • @esotericulmanist8331
      @esotericulmanist8331 3 роки тому +26

      baltic siberia jfc

    • @verynice.mp4613
      @verynice.mp4613 3 роки тому +21

      @@esotericulmanist8331 sending Russians in train wagons to the Narva?

    • @daszieher
      @daszieher 3 роки тому +47

      I haven't met a single Estonian, or any other Baltic who would give enough of a damn to risk his skin for territorial gains in Russia.
      Russia is Russia for a reason.

    • @verynice.mp4613
      @verynice.mp4613 3 роки тому +46

      @@daszieher i doubt there is anything good near border worth taking over. ONLY shitty undeveloped areas. There is no way we could even control areas far in Russia only close to the borders.
      I doubt modern Latvia wouldn't even take Region that was given to Russia by force Abrene because there is no infrastructure and who would want more Russians in country lol.

    • @hybridarmyofthegdl2193
      @hybridarmyofthegdl2193 3 роки тому +4

      With cost of “black gold” at 15-23 dollars per barrel, the USSR economy collapsed, and the sovok itself collapsed, and the "golden" horde ("russia") budget can only be fulfilled only with oil price at $ 42.4 and higher

  • @bluemountain4181
    @bluemountain4181 3 роки тому +498

    Russian Manchuria: *chuckles* "I'm in danger"

    • @F22onblockland
      @F22onblockland 3 роки тому +88

      CCP: Hey didn't the Qing use to own this like 160 years ago? Oh It's definitely mine now.

    • @lolwutasddfdfk
      @lolwutasddfdfk 3 роки тому +27

      @@F22onblockland There's no such thing as who "owns" what place, only who can control it.
      Russian Manchuria is in an unstable equilibrium, and will be reverted China in the long term.

    • @riograndedosulball248
      @riograndedosulball248 3 роки тому +15

      @@lolwutasddfdfk or not, as China is also fucking imploding

    • @No_Name_16
      @No_Name_16 3 роки тому +10

      @@riograndedosulball248 .... China is imploding?

    • @profilepicture828
      @profilepicture828 3 роки тому +7

      @@riograndedosulball248 absolutely it is not

  • @AppliedMathematician
    @AppliedMathematician 3 роки тому +361

    A proxy war with nuclear arsenal acquirable by combatants of both sides would be a remarkable stupid idea. It does not mean that this could not happen, but control of warlords by proxy is likely go wrong at some time point.

    • @dragonlord1225
      @dragonlord1225 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah nuclear warheads have to be used on outside forces not on domestic problems..

    • @anon2427
      @anon2427 3 роки тому

      It’s likely to go horribly wrong but it’s happened so many times before

    • @AppliedMathematician
      @AppliedMathematician 3 роки тому

      @@dragonlord1225: Actually most nuclear weapons exist to be not used at all. Its quite aptly called MAD doctrine.

    • @AppliedMathematician
      @AppliedMathematician 3 роки тому

      @@anon2427 : Well until the events with respect to how the EU handled the Greece crisis, I thought that it had been widely understood that certain kinds of power-play are no longer viable - that we must protect all systems that make war unlikely. But well, I do not think, that the EU will survive the precedent the Troika set. I still would like to ask Yanis Varoufakis some questions in that regard. For some academic work and a blog, but that man is busy and I can not reach him.

    • @dragonlord1225
      @dragonlord1225 3 роки тому +1

      @@AppliedMathematician If you intent to not use them, the "MAD doctrine" doesn't work. Only if the intent is there, other countries will abstain from trying to attack a nuclear power. Otherwise it's just expensive scrap metal lying around.

  • @bluerisk
    @bluerisk 2 роки тому +8

    There is a huge Muslim minority (around 10%), and in Chechnya and Dagestan they even openly revolted; the East might sooner or later fall under Chinese influence or even control.
    Many Chinese people settle there, and some day Beijing might argue with the same reasons, Moscow used to annex the Crimea peninsula.
    And the East has many resources China desperately needs.

  • @anguscovoflyer95
    @anguscovoflyer95 3 роки тому +368

    you forget to mention that when the tsar created the duma he still tried to interfere a lot in the workings of the duma, dissolved it multiple times, prevented universal suffrage, bloody sunday, Gregori rasputin and WW1 all of these combined contributed to the end of the tsar monarchy. if he gave the people what they wanted then maybe tsarist rule might still have continued to exist.

    • @yarpen26
      @yarpen26 3 роки тому +55

      And the same applies to the Yeltis era that Putinists love to use as the ultimate proof of the decadence of democracy, just to get an excuse why Russia should always be governmed by authoritarian maniacs. The guy himself performed a coup against the legal authorities in 1993 and his rule was notoriously corrupt, albeit not as much as that of Putin. Bottom line, neither the 1905-1917 period nor the '90s should be seen as an example of working democracy.
      Besides, many other f. Eastern Block nations went through the same upheavals in the '90s but they allowed their democracies to mature. Some of them rolled back most of these changes but as a part of a brand new trend, whereas Putin or Lukashenko act like the Soviet Union simply had never collapsed.

    • @notaraven
      @notaraven 3 роки тому +3

      Well, it makes sense. The "stronk" central government Russia usually falls back to would have a hard, specific agenda to follow.
      Liberal institutions adds randomness to the country, a degree to change the alter or even ruin a 5 year or even decades long agenda. In the Russian revolution example universal suffrage was probably too much risk for the tsar to comfortably control the nation.
      The issue seems that the strong central government leaves a lot of angry civilians but they support it because it's improving the country in some way. The more they try to "democratize" the country to help with stability the more power the opposition has. If the opposition stops or hampers the party in any way more people will lose faith and support the opposition.

    • @themeerofkats8908
      @themeerofkats8908 3 роки тому +19

      @@yarpen26 The former Eastern Bloc aren't as democratic as you claim. Hungary is basically a dictatorship, the PIS hold a lot of influence in Poland and are stacking the courts.
      Most countries today are oligarchies or some kind of rule by minority where the wealthiest hold the most influence. Ask yourself. In a typical ''democracy'', who holds more influence? A homeless person or a wealthy billionaire.

    • @yarpen26
      @yarpen26 3 роки тому +17

      @@notaraven Excuses, excuses and even more excuses, the kind that I've heard from actual Russians ad nauseaum. Russia made half-assed attempts at democracy basically twice in its entire history and in neither case was genuine democracy ever established. There is virtually no precedent to speak of. Also, Russia isn't the impoverished hellhole it used to be in 1917 and 1991. It could very well hold regular elections with some actual competition instead of this neo-Soviet farce. The example of the other Eastern Bloc nations proves that much.
      And you know what else this precious "stability" provides? The entrenchment of oligarchies. No matter how many times you'll say to the contrary, an actual democracy doesn't give you even 1% of the opportunity to perform corruption than an autocracy. In a democracy, Putin would need to think carefully about how to allocate the money he defrauds and all in all he wouldn't get away with nearly as much as he does under authoritarian Russia, where the prosecution and courts simply _know_ he's off limits. This isn't something that's up to debate, no amount of anecdotal deflection will change that. That is the basic rule of mankind: the less control there is, the bolder the crooks. Even the worst functioning democracy won't see the kind of stealing you can get away with under dictatorship.
      And please don't give me the "duh, dude, what about SINGAPORE???" talk. The fact remains that even for a "benevolent" dictator, the only thing that prevents him from stealing his country's assets is his own will alone. Nothing else. And that is why North Korea is the most corrupt state in the world.

    • @yarpen26
      @yarpen26 3 роки тому +5

      @@themeerofkats8908 Yes, there is a reversal in demoracy in both these countries. And now their citizens learn the very valuable thing about democracy: just what happens when it slips out of your fingers.
      Is this supposed to be an argument against democracy? That people grow bored with it and look to populist crooks for easy answers?
      _Most countries today are oligarchies or some kind of rule by minority where the wealthiest hold the most influence. Ask yourself. In a typical ''democracy'', who holds more influence? A homeless person or a wealthy billionaire._
      Yes, and Putin's Russia is a million times worse an oligarchy than any democracy you can name. Primarily because it's not a democracy.

  • @jvalentine8376
    @jvalentine8376 2 роки тому +43

    Your forgetting one important fact . That Russia rebuilt its self after the fall of the USSR because the World traded with them and helped them grow . That support is now greatly reduced back too what collapsed the USSR initially . So they are not coming out of this quickly at all .

    • @fredfrond6148
      @fredfrond6148 2 роки тому

      Why don’t you invest in a UA-cam membership? No adds there. For the in show adds I just scroll through which you can’t do with the UA-cam adds.

    • @fredfrond6148
      @fredfrond6148 2 роки тому

      @@kbuddy1 I don't mind paying you tube since I use it often. So if a little money filters down to creators I am good with that.

    • @bobburnitt5389
      @bobburnitt5389 2 роки тому

      I believe you are correct. WE SHOULD be a GREAT Customer of theirs. We should be MAKING MONEY from Trade with Russia. I think Putin will have to go for that to take place. But at one time I thought we were going to get together with him and benefit GREATLY from the alliance. It should have been a GOLDEN Opportunity. Putin is going to have to go, and SOMEONE that understands Capitalism will have to replace him. There will have to be a government that is PRO-Capitalist governing them. The USA and Russia both need to CLEAN HOUSE with the idiot politicians in BOTH COUNTRIES. Not much can be accomplished with people like WE have in the USA, the Biden, Harris. Pelosi team is enough to RUIN anything. They could not run a Saturday Night Crap Game. But take a good luck at our Congress, we need to clean house THERE and stick them with some TERM LIMITS. I would NOT hold my breath waiting.

    • @luipaardprint
      @luipaardprint 2 роки тому

      @@kbuddy1 these videos aren't free to make you know. In fact they take quite a bit of work.

    • @gungadone3329
      @gungadone3329 2 роки тому

      The Russian "revolution". wasn't the oppressed fighting back. It was an INVASION by the Bolsheviks. Oppression on an industrial scale. Spoiler alert. Some horrific images of Bolshevik slaughter of Russians
      Censorship is validation of the message.
      Communism was not created by the masses to overthrow the bankers, Communism was created by the bankers to overthrow and enslave the masses.
      “You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the “Russian Revolution.” It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators. “We cannot state that all Jews are Bolsheviks. But: without Jews there would have been no Bolshevism. For a Jew nothing is more insulting than the truth. The blood maddened Jewish terrorists murdered sixty-six million in Russia from 1918 to 1957.”
      Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (1918-2008), Nobel-Prize-winning novelist, historian and victim of Jewish Bolshevism.
      Official page for the documentary: europathelastbattle.wordpress.com

  • @abrahamdozer6273
    @abrahamdozer6273 2 роки тому +149

    "What would happen if Russia collapsed?"
    The European parts would gradually join modern Europe and the Chinese would bite off and pick at the bones of their remaining Asian holdings.

    • @Itisjustasaganow
      @Itisjustasaganow 2 роки тому +1

      And ww3 begun

    • @abrahamdozer6273
      @abrahamdozer6273 2 роки тому +8

      @@Itisjustasaganow It already has, probably

    • @namesdontmatter885
      @namesdontmatter885 2 роки тому +1

      @@abrahamdozer6273 well i mean i personally think that the invasion of Ukraine is gonna stop at Ukraine and not go further

    • @abrahamdozer6273
      @abrahamdozer6273 2 роки тому

      @@namesdontmatter885 That is true because Ukrainian infantrymen are destroying the Russian army on the ground.
      Had that not happened and the Russians been humbled, they would have kept on rolling, for sure.
      They seem to believe their own propaganda about themselves.

    • @Lomnjac007
      @Lomnjac007 2 роки тому +5

      @@abrahamdozer6273 Hahahaha... Sure they are, and sure the reports about 20 000 dead Russian troops for the loss of 2000 Ukranian troops is the real deal, dude they took 1/4 of Europes largest country in 24 days and are still gooing, with 110 000 troops (while Ukraine has reportedly a 290 000 strong army + 13 000 militia men)...

  • @vizualsbynick
    @vizualsbynick Рік тому +12

    You are a vocal artist and magician, next to being an amazing historian and storyteller. After watching this episode, I actually feel the perpetual nightmare the Russian people are in.

  • @MSMS-ug3zu
    @MSMS-ug3zu 2 роки тому +227

    With Russia's invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, the likelihood of the scenario given in this video has been heightened.

    • @coin6625
      @coin6625 2 роки тому +5

      Nah

    • @Frydrykmastkiller
      @Frydrykmastkiller 2 роки тому +41

      I can easily see it, with everything that's gone on. The world is learning "If you want to share in Global Wealth, You must share in Global Peace

    • @williammcconnell1212
      @williammcconnell1212 2 роки тому +38

      @@Frydrykmastkiller yep. Russia is living in the 50s still. Hopefully when putin is killed and all the soviet boomers die, they will stop being an aggressive state and join other Europeans in peace. We have zero desire to attack them. Its bizarre how insecure they are

    • @MSMS-ug3zu
      @MSMS-ug3zu 2 роки тому +2

      @@williammcconnell1212 That is not quite the point this video is telling us. "History replays like a half-forgotten song, but once we remember, it's far too late. The West fell asleep on Cold War sentry duty and thought Putin couldn't be serious, but he was. The question remains, is NATO?" by Neal Ascherson.

    • @sebastianwallin3726
      @sebastianwallin3726 2 роки тому +9

      @@williammcconnell1212
      What makes you think we Europeans have zero interest in attacking Russia?
      In 1700'th the Swedes tried to conquer all of Russia and failed.
      In 1800th the French tried to conquer all of RUssia and failed.
      In 1900th the Germans tried to conquer all of Russia and failed.
      Europe is quite determined on trying to conquer Russia and it has been this way in a very long time.

  • @maddoxgreene7419
    @maddoxgreene7419 3 роки тому +300

    oooh I think this could be a good series! seeing what would happen if different countries collapsed.

    • @ETALAL
      @ETALAL 3 роки тому +15

      Agreed my slimey green brother. it would suit the current global tone of a collapsing Empire 🍌🗽

    • @YathishShamaraj
      @YathishShamaraj 3 роки тому +26

      Next should be USA, then China, Iran, Korea, Venezuela, 😁👍👍👍

    • @Pedanta
      @Pedanta 3 роки тому +20

      Seeing what would happen if the UK collapsed/broke apart would be interesting

    • @uss_04
      @uss_04 3 роки тому +11

      Canada. Just because no one asks the question but I’d be genuinely interested in what happens.
      Especially ramifications to the Northwest Passage.

    • @uchicha666
      @uchicha666 3 роки тому +1

      No

  • @Withdrawlful
    @Withdrawlful 3 роки тому +168

    Russia: *Collapses
    Germany: *Heavy Breathing*

    • @QuantumAscension1
      @QuantumAscension1 3 роки тому +54

      Germany: Guys! It's Happening! Third times a charm!

    • @hehe-pt6yb
      @hehe-pt6yb 3 роки тому +15

      @@QuantumAscension1 Well they got them the first time...

    • @user-ft3jq5vi2l
      @user-ft3jq5vi2l 3 роки тому +31

      Königsberg is free real estate

    • @QuantumAscension1
      @QuantumAscension1 3 роки тому +2

      @@hehe-pt6yb Yeah, but then lost it in the treaty of Versailles

    • @hsuanhunglin5385
      @hsuanhunglin5385 3 роки тому +11

      Hans it's time to expand our LIVING ROOM !

  • @bigdog1292
    @bigdog1292 2 роки тому +13

    Well this aged well

  • @FuyuPhantom
    @FuyuPhantom 3 роки тому +167

    Edit: Fixed quote
    Vladimir Putin: "but why do we need such a world if there is no russia?"

    • @BANDERAAAAAA
      @BANDERAAAAAA 3 роки тому +5

      Russian world exist only inside Kremlin, small mindset world

    • @BANDERAAAAAA
      @BANDERAAAAAA 3 роки тому +9

      @Robert Valentin richest man in the world, 140 millions slaves in his hand

    • @user-wx4nv8xr3d
      @user-wx4nv8xr3d 3 роки тому +19

      @@BANDERAAAAAA and most of Ukraine

    • @kitkat47chrysalis95
      @kitkat47chrysalis95 3 роки тому +3

      @@BANDERAAAAAA china: those are rookie numbers

    • @BANDERAAAAAA
      @BANDERAAAAAA 3 роки тому

      @@user-wx4nv8xr3d most of Russia in hands if China

  • @eustache_dauger
    @eustache_dauger 3 роки тому +93

    Why, you may take the most gallant sailor, the most intrepid airman or the most audacious soldier, put them at a table together-what do you get? The sum of their fears.

  • @druzhynets91
    @druzhynets91 3 роки тому +272

    Russia never collapses in a peaceful way, so one might expect a bloodbath

    • @firstlast5454
      @firstlast5454 3 роки тому +69

      Except it collapsed peacefully after 1991...

    • @Sebastian-sd1om
      @Sebastian-sd1om 3 роки тому +81

      @@firstlast5454 Chechnia would like to introduce themselves

    • @kremepye3613
      @kremepye3613 3 роки тому +53

      @@firstlast5454 mostly peacefully

    • @chrisc2671
      @chrisc2671 3 роки тому +13

      You talk as if it happens a lot. The collapse of the Soviet Union was pretty peaceful I’d say and that wasn’t even a Russian collapse. What are you referring too?

    • @freddy4603
      @freddy4603 3 роки тому +25

      @@firstlast5454 the differebce between the Soviet Union and Russia is that the Union was comprised of much more concrete entities that (theoretically and in propaganda) worked alongside each other and could have believable reasons to exist on their own. But Russia is already filled with Russians everywhere, so if it falls, a war will be fought until it is united (all of the scattered ethnic groups within the sea of Russians make this process even bloodier)

  • @jebronlames4559
    @jebronlames4559 2 роки тому +14

    Maybe Putin got worried after watching this video

  • @chengmunwai
    @chengmunwai 3 роки тому +99

    13:19 : 'China would aim to convert Mongolia into a client state ...... " I'm surprised Shirvan didn't mention that China will just literally walk unhindered into Vladivostok to reclaim that city and re-occupy the entire Russian Fast East including Sakhalin island

    • @Saktoth
      @Saktoth 3 роки тому +14

      Like he said, the US and whatever could be propped up of Russia would become alllies real fast if that happened.

    • @pineapplesareyummy6352
      @pineapplesareyummy6352 3 роки тому +10

      ​@@corruptikoo2683 Manchuria is already a part of China. And why would China ever want Russia to collapse? China will then have to face the US alone, and the US is certain to try to march in from Alaska and grab whatever it can in Russia's Far East, and that would lead to a land border between China and the US somewhere on current Russian territory, not something China would ever want! China and Russia resolved all of their land dispute in 2003. There is no conflict between the two.

    • @Luey_Luey
      @Luey_Luey 3 роки тому +5

      US STATE OF CHUKOTKA
      US STATE OF CHUKOTKA
      I could see the fate of Vladivostok, Primorsky Krai and the rest of the Russian Far East becoming the center of a major potential flashpoint between USA/Japan and China. China would want to reclaim land it lost hold of centuries ago, the US and Japan would both aim to contain China as best as they can, and Japan itself may want to reassert control over territories like Sakhalin, which China will want to contain and which the US may be very cautious about

    • @loks117
      @loks117 3 роки тому +1

      @@pineapplesareyummy6352 we will have our territories back no matter what. we will own entire siberia and replaced the native siberian in there.

    • @goosenuggets9693
      @goosenuggets9693 3 роки тому +8

      @@loks117 No. You won't.

  • @funny-video-YouTube-channel
    @funny-video-YouTube-channel 3 роки тому +254

    All depends on how well China is doing at that point of time.
    China could overtake the east.

    • @danshakuimo
      @danshakuimo 3 роки тому +21

      Gotta restore the Tang Dynasty borders

    • @richardchen103
      @richardchen103 3 роки тому +24

      @@danshakuimo Qing

    • @AlternativaRed
      @AlternativaRed 3 роки тому +14

      And hold it not for long. America won't allow it and Russia can easily defeat the chinese.

    • @benjamindavidovichwaals2899
      @benjamindavidovichwaals2899 3 роки тому

      my ass, china gonna overtake

    • @Mentally_Me
      @Mentally_Me 3 роки тому +39

      The Chinese will slowly keep sending people into the Russian far east and one day will own it all. Without the Chinese money, the east would be EXTREMELY poor. Russia is to broke to hold on to it.

  • @singularityraptor4022
    @singularityraptor4022 3 роки тому +151

    Up next, Collapse of Russia sponsored by Skillshare.

    • @adlerzwei
      @adlerzwei 3 роки тому +4

      The logistics of Russia collapsing. o.O

    • @brandonshane8321
      @brandonshane8321 3 роки тому +5

      Want to know how to search for lost nuclear weapons? Skillshare will help you hone the skills you need to blackmail the local warlords into giving them up.

  • @bensonfang1868
    @bensonfang1868 2 роки тому +18

    China looking at Siberia like: “it’s free real estate”

    • @jointedlimb
      @jointedlimb 2 роки тому +2

      especially the way the Russian army is performing.

    • @user-lp7wo7og4x
      @user-lp7wo7og4x 8 місяців тому

      It's Chinese lebensraum

  • @davidpetersen1
    @davidpetersen1 2 роки тому +89

    Is there no possible scenario where, after the collapse, the country gets led by a human being?

    • @cooldudecs
      @cooldudecs 2 роки тому +4

      The west pushed up to its borders... It will fight to the last man... THe next push will be nuclear weapons... You cannot cancel a world power

    • @davidpetersen1
      @davidpetersen1 2 роки тому +20

      @@cooldudecs The West "pushed up" to nothing. non-Soviet countries simply exist. I don't think the expectation is to get rid of a world power. The aim should be to minimize the mentality of aggression within that world power. When Ghengis Khan died the Mongol hoards diminished, dissipated and disappeared. Putin is a living warlord dinosaur.
      If you cannot envision an outcome other than nuclear destruction on some level then you just aren't "thinking.. man".

    • @krasomieso7620
      @krasomieso7620 2 роки тому +3

      @@davidpetersen1 the west pushed

    • @davidpetersen1
      @davidpetersen1 2 роки тому +3

      whatever

    • @jcrosenkreuz5213
      @jcrosenkreuz5213 2 роки тому +3

      Everyone you hate is still a human being, not a caricature.

  • @th3b0yg
    @th3b0yg 3 роки тому +72

    Thanks, Shirvan. Really interesting and informative! I'm a long-time watcher of your channel and it just keeps getting better. I've probably said it in previous comments, but your personality is an important part of this channel. I'm really glad you're still "performing" the read as well as doing the writing and analysis.

  • @ltyr-mr2if
    @ltyr-mr2if 3 роки тому +269

    I like your reports!...
    However, I want to comment about some stuff here:
    Poland, as a NATO member would NOT invade Belarus and Ukraine.
    Ukraine, with Western backing, would oppose Turkey taking Crimea.
    Turkey cannot invade Georgia while being in NATO. They would be thrown out of NATO and possible fought. (But that wouldn't happen)
    But OH YES, China would move in in every direction to take over Mongolia, Siberia and the eastern Russian ports and islands.
    It is CHINA, not the West, to worry about in this scenario!

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims 3 роки тому +15

      It’s been China for 30 years but the US was complacent and didn’t realize what was happening

    • @limo7779
      @limo7779 3 роки тому +12

      Turkey invaded Cyprus and NATO did not declare war on them, the United States wants to expand its influence, and if Turkey and Poland seize territories under themselves, they will get it. At the expense of Cyprus, Cyprus was British and gained independence, and in order for the USSR not to gain control over it, the United States allowed Turkey to attack Cyprus and put a puppet government there, thereby causing its division, just as the United States fought in Iran and helped the Taliban to come to Afghanistan, while Russia only looked at it and collapsed under pressure

    • @limo7779
      @limo7779 3 роки тому +5

      And Poland is already invading Ukraine and Poland, just not directly, in Ukraine in 2014 during the civil war, a pro-American government was transformed that does everything to join Nato, and in Belarus, permanent sent oppositionists from Poland raise rallies, this situation has escalated in recent years, in Russia, it is also possible to note Navalny who studied and grew up in the USA and then began to call himself a Russian patriot and raised about several million people to rallies

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims 3 роки тому +8

      @@limo7779 USA probably didn’t want to jeopardize the alliance in the East by punishing Turkey in the 1974, considering how that time was dominated by Vietnam exit, and the belief that nato forces were behind in the ability to fight the war pact

    • @minzblatt
      @minzblatt 3 роки тому +4

      Why should NATO start a war with a member of itself because of a conflict with a non-member to begin with? You guys aren't very smart if you don't see the obvious reason behind NATO: contain and fight Soviet Union. US did however punish Turkey for the liberation of Turkish Cypriots (yes, Turks weren't keen on seeing their kinsmen slaughtered further like on Bloody Christmas 1963 and the events after) by embargoing its own ally aka the reason why ASELSAN was founded and why Turkey is now striving for critical independence in all war tech.

  • @goupigoupi6953
    @goupigoupi6953 2 роки тому +11

    I used to think that Russian army was the second best in the world. Now it appears to be the second best in Ukraine.

    • @olegshtolc7245
      @olegshtolc7245 2 роки тому +3

      Just like us army was the best but still lost in vietnam. Or Napoleon in spain. When the population is willing to resist (yeah France , I’m looking at you). It’s extremely hard to conquer

    • @paolosantiago3163
      @paolosantiago3163 2 роки тому

      @@olegshtolc7245 Cry hard Moscow troll hahahahaha.

    • @olegshtolc7245
      @olegshtolc7245 2 роки тому +1

      @@paolosantiago3163 wow you are so limited

    • @jcd776
      @jcd776 2 роки тому +2

      Bro by your logic Afghan goat herders are the strongest army lol.

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia 3 роки тому +155

    Blinkist: "Let's try to shorten the general attention span even more!"

    • @thelazy0ne
      @thelazy0ne 3 роки тому +3

      The Cobra effect is everywhere.

    • @kerelasfinest4496
      @kerelasfinest4496 3 роки тому +2

      No fap: I’m here to save u

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims 3 роки тому +3

      I mean hey, the attention span is shorter may as well capitalize on it

  • @DarkLordFromTheSecondAge
    @DarkLordFromTheSecondAge 3 роки тому +128

    I believe that Steiner's counter attack has finally arrived.

  • @garettegear5557
    @garettegear5557 2 роки тому +97

    I cannot explain how much this channel helps me understand the other side of the world and it’s conflicts I live in Canada so the other side of the world always felt a bit alien

    • @runeciti
      @runeciti 2 роки тому +9

      Did you not know the world is round!? Russia is closer to Canada than you think.

    • @YujiroHanmaaaa
      @YujiroHanmaaaa 2 роки тому +8

      @@runeciti Most of the biggest conflicts are in Europe, Asia and Africa. Canada alongside USA are protected by oceans. For example how many North American cities where bombed during WW2 compared in Europe?

    • @NullHand
      @NullHand 2 роки тому +4

      @@YujiroHanmaaaa There was this nice tropical one in Hawaii...
      Did not work out well for the people who did it.

    • @marcusmaattaeklund
      @marcusmaattaeklund 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, central and south america are really chill compared to scandinavia and the brittish islands..

    • @oo--7714
      @oo--7714 2 роки тому +2

      @@marcusmaattaeklund less wars more crime.

  • @matyiii
    @matyiii 2 роки тому +49

    The claims by Japan to the Kuril Islands is probably also worth mentioning.

    • @Arc-dz8fc
      @Arc-dz8fc 2 роки тому +1

      They would absolutely take the 4 southern ones they claim and possibly more of them too.

    • @maximilianh.3890
      @maximilianh.3890 2 роки тому +1

      Also chinas claim on vladivostok

    • @pierrecurie
      @pierrecurie 2 роки тому +1

      @@maximilianh.3890 These claims are rather small compared to the bulk of Russia...

  • @grizwoldphantasia5005
    @grizwoldphantasia5005 2 роки тому +33

    I always figured the problem is the Central Asian geography:
    * It is sparsely-populated with valuable but expensive resources.
    * There are few natural borders, making them easy to dispute and leading to strong armies.
    * Armies are hierarchical in nature, leading to corrupt authoritarian politics rather than democracy.
    Neighbors are generally self-supporting agriculturally and industrially, want those resources, but none can hold exclusive access, leading to endless wars. I see no short-term solution, but long-term, as the world becomes wealthier and raw resources represent less and less a percentage of that wealth, war will become less and less profitable.

    • @marcussoininen2084
      @marcussoininen2084 2 роки тому +3

      Which is why, after the impending collapse or Russia the former federation should be put under international stewardship for a few decades and unlike after the last collapse, not robbed blind but helped as independent nations into representative democracy.

  • @mencken8
    @mencken8 3 роки тому +183

    “What would happen if Russia collapsed?” Hard to say, but I’d guess we’d hear it way over here in the States……

    • @KaiserStormTracking
      @KaiserStormTracking 3 роки тому +4

      @Ei Dirst You mean *our Soviet anthem*
      Sorry sorry I will see myself out. I couldn't miss the chance to use it

    • @TheKitMurkit
      @TheKitMurkit 3 роки тому +4

      A big celebration, for starters

    • @Notmyname1593
      @Notmyname1593 3 роки тому +6

      Assuming the states still exist.

    • @lucasharvey8990
      @lucasharvey8990 3 роки тому +1

      @@Notmyname1593 Bruh. Obviously the USA would still exist.

    • @jbjaguar2717
      @jbjaguar2717 3 роки тому +2

      'Way over here'. That depends which part of Russia/the US you live in. You can actually walk between the two countries in Winter, when the Bering Strait freezes over. It would take you about an hour.

  • @gobanito
    @gobanito 3 роки тому +204

    Russian prestige already declined even before 1917, when it lost the Russo-Japanese War in 1905

    • @sdstacey46
      @sdstacey46 3 роки тому +30

      I was surprised Shirvan didn't start with the 1905 Revolution. Even though it failed, it was pretty damn important.

    • @pacan3361
      @pacan3361 3 роки тому +8

      @@sdstacey46 yep, after 1905 liberal reforms doomed Russia

    • @namesurname-1488
      @namesurname-1488 3 роки тому +30

      Lol, in 1905-1914 Russia has an economic boom, illiteracy level has fallen nearly twice and Russian Imperial Army became biggest in the world. If WWI had started not in 1914, but in 1920s, Germany would have no chance.

    • @radziwill7193
      @radziwill7193 3 роки тому +4

      *Russo-British War 1905

    • @andrewflow7033
      @andrewflow7033 3 роки тому

      @@radziwill7193 Russo-russo war, how one year of swlm by baltic fleet was lost ln one day, that's my homeland only motherland must do eplc everything even lose only lf EPlC LOOOOOOSEEEEE

  • @thevox1075
    @thevox1075 2 роки тому +8

    If the Russian government collapsed, then I would like to believe the rest of the world would be willing to help the people of Russia. I’m an American, but have no hatred or animosity towards the people of Russia. Most of them are just like me. They work, take care of their families, have fun with friends, and just want to be peaceful with others.

    • @sgtmayhem7567
      @sgtmayhem7567 2 роки тому +1

      They’ve got to get rid of Putin, he’s playing that Russia is the USSR and he’s Stalin

    • @elfbeaned
      @elfbeaned 2 роки тому

      False. The West would just come to Russia, and take ALL natural sources freely, and leave Russia deserts.

    • @thevox1075
      @thevox1075 2 роки тому

      @@elfbeaned how do you know?

    • @thevox1075
      @thevox1075 2 роки тому

      Are you saying they’re not? How do you know?

    • @JamieA93
      @JamieA93 Рік тому

      I hope so too 🙏

  • @cubethai
    @cubethai 3 роки тому +513

    Would like to point out that Finland was never part of the Soviet union, therefore some of the maps are slightly incorrect. Otherwise, great content as usual!

    • @voregse427
      @voregse427 3 роки тому +3

      Both of them is socialist 😎

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims 3 роки тому +87

      @@voregse427 Finland? Socialist? U wot m8?

    • @limo7779
      @limo7779 3 роки тому +92

      On map, finland its part Russian Empire but no USSR

    • @marinodezelak1180
      @marinodezelak1180 3 роки тому +84

      It's in the map of the Russian Empire, Finland/Suomi was taken from Sweden by the Russian empire, then understanding Fins were not Swedes and they had a hostile relationship toward each other, it was given the status of a grand duchy and a great deal of Autonomy... That was the First time Finland existed as a somewhat separate entity. Finally, Finland gained full independence after the Revolution in Russia.

    • @marinodezelak1180
      @marinodezelak1180 3 роки тому +22

      @@looinrims It's a Social democracy, So yeah... You could say Socialist, like most of Europe... Not Communist though, but then again, there's no communist nation left in Europe.

  • @andrerothweiler9191
    @andrerothweiler9191 3 роки тому +375

    Russia: very high chance of collapse
    .
    .
    .
    Also Russia: let's expand

    • @sumitshresth
      @sumitshresth 3 роки тому +27

      well thats the only way to keep unity is to create a hope to expand further and bring riches from outside for its citizen. Something US also does by constantly invading other nations.

    • @andrerothweiler9191
      @andrerothweiler9191 3 роки тому +41

      @@sumitshresth Well USA does not annex, it is a huge difference

    • @vibratoryuniverse308
      @vibratoryuniverse308 3 роки тому +11

      Welcome to Empire lol

    • @comradekenobi6908
      @comradekenobi6908 3 роки тому +14

      @@andrerothweiler9191 tell that to Middle East

    • @Legiion513
      @Legiion513 3 роки тому +29

      Which Middle Eastern country became part of the US?

  • @830toAwesome
    @830toAwesome 3 роки тому +21

    Friedman thought that the U.S was going to have a massive Pacific War with Japan. The dude's forecasts have honestly been bunk almost universally.

  • @kavky
    @kavky 2 роки тому +14

    Well first of all Ukraine, Poland, and Romania would be celebrating. 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

  • @alter-nator
    @alter-nator 2 роки тому +115

    1917: fall of Russian Empire
    1991: fall of Soviet Union
    2022: fall of Russian Federation

    • @JedisfuneralTM
      @JedisfuneralTM 2 роки тому +12

      The russians are always Falling lol

    • @TheBonecrusherz
      @TheBonecrusherz 2 роки тому +6

      inshallah

    • @xesphor1436
      @xesphor1436 2 роки тому

      I'm not so sure if Russian Federation is going to fall so soon, it doesn't seem that unstable to me anyway

    • @capitalistdingo
      @capitalistdingo 2 роки тому +3

      @@xesphor1436 Very few people called the Soviet Union weak in the run up to its collapse. Most of the experts of the day saw it as at the height of it’s power just before the collapse.

    • @doomsday5286
      @doomsday5286 2 роки тому +7

      If it falls, i am 100% sure it will go out with the big bang of our time, so pray that it doesn't, or it may take everybody with it.

  • @natalielarsson8669
    @natalielarsson8669 2 роки тому +18

    Listen to him in 1.5 and you'll appreciate how decisive the reporting can be.

  • @moppypuppy781
    @moppypuppy781 3 роки тому +210

    CaspianReport recounts the events of _Call of Dury 4: Modern Warfare._

    • @aaronbustamante9282
      @aaronbustamante9282 3 роки тому +17

      What kind of name is soap eh how a muppet like you passed isolation

    • @Alamyst2011
      @Alamyst2011 3 роки тому +7

      @@aaronbustamante9282 Always faster to switch weapons

    • @youtubetroller2451
      @youtubetroller2451 3 роки тому +1

      *Duty

    • @edisonk.182
      @edisonk.182 3 роки тому +4

      Remember switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading.

  • @IceDogXena
    @IceDogXena 2 роки тому +12

    Russia experiences “Years of Trouble” throughout her history. A pattern of troubled years occurs on an irregular frequency. There is one notable example where Russia struggled for almost a decade about 5-600 years ago and that event is known as “Years of Trouble”…

  • @emangarrison
    @emangarrison 2 роки тому +69

    Listening to this today for the first time. It does seem that Putin is headed for a hideous fall and will take Russia, it’s military and it’s people down with him. It’s totally plausible, if not inevitable.

    • @platoscavealum902
      @platoscavealum902 2 роки тому +6

      🇺🇦

    • @Saint696Anger
      @Saint696Anger 2 роки тому

      He's got China on his side, I think the downfall is shifting towards the west

    • @righthandstep5
      @righthandstep5 2 роки тому +5

      @@Saint696Anger nope Russia is going cede territory to China. China don't care about Russia is a puppet

    • @algarcia7896
      @algarcia7896 2 роки тому +1

      this video shows russia getting dismantled peacefully. it does not matter what the world thinks of putin and this invasion. if the west attacks russia, its people will fight and those nukes will be launched before russia gets pieced up by the west and china

    • @BWo-bb1yw
      @BWo-bb1yw 2 роки тому +1

      We can only hope.

  • @steinwaldmadchen
    @steinwaldmadchen 3 роки тому +198

    9:19 Shirvan let's be frank, today’s episode must be sponsored by RZD Russian Railways 😎

  • @Wfalen
    @Wfalen 2 роки тому +28

    What about the Tuvan republic? It borders Mongolia, it is over 80% ethnically Tuvan and most locals speak their own language instead of Russia. You could see this as a breakaway region

    • @smokerputz
      @smokerputz 2 роки тому

      There's a "Tuvan Republic"? Fuck, I feel geographically stupid.

    • @Imperator_-sl4zu
      @Imperator_-sl4zu 2 роки тому

      But then, tuva is one of the most impoverished regions in the Russian federation, and as Shirvan mentions, such place's lack of sustainability might force it to align with a stronger neighbor, most possibly a newborn russian central government.
      Also it's worth mentioning Tuvans are not Mongolic like their neighbor, they are Turkic, meaning they wouldn't have the ethnic sentiments that'd back up their supposed integration efforts with mongolia, if complete independance wasn't feasable

    • @davidleomorley889
      @davidleomorley889 2 роки тому

      Tuva or bust .. Richard Feynman
      ua-cam.com/video/fuqm4FGzo20/v-deo.html

    • @Merecir
      @Merecir Рік тому

      @@Imperator_-sl4zu Seems like a perfect candidate for some US military bases, with the added bonus of massive economic support of course.

  • @denniss1211
    @denniss1211 2 роки тому

    How refreshing to hear really good and proper English.... Thanks.

  • @PtolemyXVII
    @PtolemyXVII 3 роки тому +110

    I have a feeling this analysis was written by Russian defense minister Army general Sergey Shoygu! I have to say it’s quite insightful, but must respectfully disagree that it was the attempted liberalisation in 1917 and 1991 that led to govt collapse….rather i think it was due to the deflation and hyperinflation of its currency and the subsequent instability when many internal factions attempted to take control of national resources. The tsarist bureaucracy refused to implement rational reforms in such key areas as subsoil mineral rights, monopolies and corporate law. In 1991, a reiteration of the same bureaucracy appeared in the form of néocapitalism that allowed monopolies to proliferate which led to economic collapse in 1998.
    The key to a stable state is the strength of its small businesses and ability to attract international talent. Currently Russia’s great detriment is that much of its land does not have adequate housing and living amenities in addition to its isolated infrastructure outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg. Partially adopting a resource based economy or “stakeholder capitalism” would solve much of Russia’s economic woes and strengthen its population favourable to the state.

    • @FOLIPE
      @FOLIPE 3 роки тому +3

      The key to a strong economy is big business which dominates their sector in a global level.

    • @grenadenazi
      @grenadenazi 3 роки тому +23

      @@FOLIPE the strength of the us economy is not their big business but the small businesses. Which is why the US is now collapsing because so many small businesses have died and big business has grown. "Too big to fail" has in fact failed. If Russia could get a hold of this concept they could be the new super power again. If the us realizes it's mistake and goes back to encouraging small business and not accommodating huge corporations it will once again be reasserted as the world powerhouse.

    • @gideonmele1556
      @gideonmele1556 3 роки тому +1

      @@grenadenazi which countries aren’t big business oriented?

    • @Alitacyan
      @Alitacyan 3 роки тому +7

      Agreed. Tsarrist liberalization was a sham and glasnost was an attempt to reform in order to preserve the system. August coup plotters are the real assassins of the Soviet union.

    • @rolandtours8404
      @rolandtours8404 3 роки тому +3

      As you suggest, the current Russian model of a strong autocratic centralized state is prone to rigidity, corruption, and stagnation. But that is what has protected Russia since it recovered from the devastating Mongol invasion of the 13th century and the Nazi invasion of the 20th century respectively. Its vast open land mass facilitates such attacks. That experience is seared into the collective memory of those who defend the Russian state. I recommend that Russian geostrategists look back to the early decentralized Russia of Kievan Rus and the regional republics for a more flexible and viable model of development.

  • @thomasjaggers3576
    @thomasjaggers3576 3 роки тому +90

    So, the best thing for the world is healthy well balanced nations all around. Huh, who knew?...

    • @davidm1818
      @davidm1818 3 роки тому +17

      @Дмитрий Жуков pretty much. Putin apologists like to argue that Putin is needed because Russia is unstable and weak, while simultaneously ignoring the fact that Russia is unstable and weak largely because the Putin regime. The Russian people are generally educated and capable by global standards, but the regime doesn't allow for them to prosper and creates the foundations for political instability.
      The death of Putin could be enough to topple the entire system, and a country's fate should not be reliant on the health of an old man.

    • @SuperJuvexxx
      @SuperJuvexxx 3 роки тому +6

      @Дмитрий Жуков probably because even tho the Soviet union collapsed, Russia still kinda is an empire ruling over different people, ethnicities and federations.
      That is definitely not a good condition for a state to be stable, apart from all the economic and post soviet problems

    • @scygnius
      @scygnius 3 роки тому +2

      I object to that premise as most of Europe’s bloody wars trace back to the pretext of “maintaining the balance of powers in Europe”

    • @raidermaxx2324
      @raidermaxx2324 3 роки тому +3

      Well actually we've known this for a really long time, which is why NATO and the UN, both world stabilizing alliances brought to the world by the US Post World war 2, has ushered in an the most peaceful era the world has ever known. And is why people like Trump and Putin, who seek to destroy these alliances are the world's most dangerous enemies.

    • @gorebello
      @gorebello 3 роки тому +1

      Healthy and balanced are not so well defined ideas, but yes.

  • @valentinstoyanov304
    @valentinstoyanov304 3 роки тому +47

    3:54, a statue of Alexander II in Sofia, Bulgaria :-) Dubbed "Tzar Liberator" not because he won the Russo-Turkish war 1878-78, but because he "liberated" the Russian peasantry from the feudal serfdom...

  • @jackjones9460
    @jackjones9460 2 роки тому +7

    Entire argument is that all neighboring countries would try to “expand their influence” or invade. There, I saved your time.
    This is the first Caspian Report that disappointed me with a lack of new insight. Simply repeated what happened after the USSR dissolution except China’s BRI wasn’t a major factor in the 1990’s.

    • @obvious_giraffe8386
      @obvious_giraffe8386 2 роки тому

      So you are mad cuz history repeats itself?

    • @jackjones9460
      @jackjones9460 2 роки тому

      @@obvious_giraffe8386 No, I’m annoyed because few details were given regarding which neighbor would claim which area, why and the likely outcome. I expect China will work to seize as much as they can from the pacific westward claiming at some time it was “all Chinese”. Maybe they’ll claim Genghis Khan was Chinese as well!

  • @HaiderAli-qc2uy
    @HaiderAli-qc2uy 3 роки тому +33

    Welcome back shervan. We were Missing your good voice 🙂

  • @patriot5550
    @patriot5550 3 роки тому +99

    Russia: Another revolutionary collapse.
    Eastern Europe: Phew, no more threats from the east.
    Russia: New warmongering dictator.
    Eastern Europe: Oh shit, here we go again.

    • @bohdanhovorun3078
      @bohdanhovorun3078 3 роки тому +1

      I mean...
      How would it be differnt from current state?

    • @bestrafung2754
      @bestrafung2754 3 роки тому +5

      @@bohdanhovorun3078 Well Russia is currently a peaceful nation, but they won't be anymore if they end up with another dictator like Stalin.

    • @andrespodra8459
      @andrespodra8459 3 роки тому +1

      @@bohdanhovorun3078 well, soviet union was really warmongering from its existence. Since 1918 to 1991 they had like tens of conflicts. In last 30 years they didnt incorporate anyone into Russia. Some territories were ceded (Crimea) but the ukrainians really, really tried xD.

    • @wikingagresor
      @wikingagresor 3 роки тому +9

      @@bestrafung2754 haha, peaceful nation my ass...

    • @bohdanhovorun3078
      @bohdanhovorun3078 3 роки тому +16

      @@bestrafung2754 > Peaceful nation
      > 2 wars in Chechnya
      > A war in Transnistria
      > 2 wars against Georgia
      > Crimea and Donbass in Ukraine
      > Sends troops to Syria and Libya
      Peaceful, my ass!
      They do not declare wars, but that does not mean they do not have wars.

  • @finisher3x
    @finisher3x 2 роки тому +203

    I've definitely been in tune with your channel since the Russian - Ukraine conflict has begun. You give excellent insight on the Russian mindset and history. Insight that we simply do not get in America, due to whatever political slant our news media wants to put on it. If this conflicts de-escalates, and things calm down, it will be interesting to see how the Russian people respond to Putin, and if it causes the 3rd collapse and restructuring of Russia in the past 100 years.

    • @5th_decile
      @5th_decile 2 роки тому +20

      I came on this video for the same reason. This scenario certainly sounds more ominous and compelling since the last couple of days.

    • @teemuvesala9575
      @teemuvesala9575 2 роки тому +8

      Oh yeah, like the US disintegrated after Iraq. 😂

    • @platoscavealum902
      @platoscavealum902 2 роки тому +4

      🇺🇦

    • @AureliusLaurentius1099
      @AureliusLaurentius1099 2 роки тому +26

      @@teemuvesala9575
      Unlike Russia, the US isn't facing a demographic decline, a stagnating economy dependent on oil exports or have shitty indefensible borders

    • @teemuvesala9575
      @teemuvesala9575 2 роки тому +3

      ​@@AureliusLaurentius1099 US will be in civil war soon.

  • @jonathanstill8932
    @jonathanstill8932 2 роки тому +4

    China would be negligent if they didn't move into the new vacancy.

  • @harshgupta_india
    @harshgupta_india 3 роки тому +51

    Russia : collapse
    Neighbouring powers: its free real estate

    • @susangoaway
      @susangoaway 3 роки тому +5

      Just like what they did with Poland.

    • @Westpol_West
      @Westpol_West 3 роки тому

      @@susangoaway Well, poland never collapsed, it was annexed but i think it was their fault

    • @susangoaway
      @susangoaway 3 роки тому

      @@Westpol_West It did. And the fault always lies with the one who cannot defend.
      It would be Russia's fault if it collapsed too.

    • @Westpol_West
      @Westpol_West 3 роки тому +1

      @@susangoaway no, i mean if your stubborn enough that you do not have ANY allies then it is your fault that everyone wants a piece of you (Not only in a literal sense btw). But yeah, it would be Russia`s fault if they would not have allies anymore

    • @susangoaway
      @susangoaway 3 роки тому

      @@Westpol_West Russia doesn't have any allies though.
      And I do not understand what you're saying now. Poland had allies, it was still partitioned. Allies aren't going to save you.

  • @BOOM_TSARAT_TSARAT
    @BOOM_TSARAT_TSARAT 3 роки тому +94

    Man, Russia can't stop itself from collapsing in its own weight several times already

    • @skywillfindyou
      @skywillfindyou 3 роки тому +32

      False. It's not about Russia, it's about Empire nature. Nowhee to expand - starting falling. It's untrue for modern Russia, it's only going forward in new changing world.

    • @rockonpurification
      @rockonpurification 3 роки тому +5

      Like a Russian Nest Doll

    • @emib6599
      @emib6599 3 роки тому +9

      Russia is always very reactionary against every kind if change in a changing world.
      I don't see any difference between modern Russia and older Russia in this sense.
      If is this the reason for collapsing, the stability should only get worse by time.

    • @troller8680
      @troller8680 3 роки тому

      @@emib6599 but Russia changes, not as fast as others, but it is not stays in one place.

    • @carlrodalegrado4104
      @carlrodalegrado4104 3 роки тому +3

      sounds like China's History too... Am I right?
      "The empire long united must divide, long divided must unite; this is how it has always been." ― Luo Guanzhong, Romance of the Three Kingdoms

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 роки тому +54

    Russia:
    NATO, EU, Ukraine, US:
    Also NATO, EU, Ukraine, US: *Oh no!*
    Belarus:

    • @druzhynets91
      @druzhynets91 3 роки тому +3

      Waiting for 200 years now, ha? :D

  • @SmiIeyyXD
    @SmiIeyyXD 2 роки тому +6

    This is becoming increasingly more likely

  • @stevejohnson3357
    @stevejohnson3357 2 роки тому +35

    Oh Shirvan, these are unpredictable and distressing times. Russian may be the largest ethnic group but there are parts of Russia where minority numbers are significant. Siberia is bordered to the south by Mongolia and China and they both must think they can do better with it. In his book 'Water', Marq de Villiers said 'the Russians think the Chinese have been staring at their maps too long.'

    • @AngelaH2222
      @AngelaH2222 2 роки тому +1

      ...of course, Russia nicked part of China, it has a long running grudge that's been quietly simmering away...it's alliance with Russia will only last as long as it is convenient..

  • @Mikeharuki
    @Mikeharuki 3 роки тому +59

    Funny that you didnt mention about Japan or its territorial disputes with Russia

    • @ailo8964
      @ailo8964 3 роки тому +1

      Japan is a self constrained country.

    • @Freeliner75
      @Freeliner75 3 роки тому +4

      @@ailo8964 and one of the main conditions of resolving these issues between Russia and Japan is removing US military bases from Japan, which does not look as a possible option right now.

    • @TeddyKrimsony
      @TeddyKrimsony 3 роки тому +5

      They're fantastic Islands Russia should sell them for cash and technology

    • @svart3917
      @svart3917 3 роки тому +5

      Japan is an American puppet and will do what the US allows.

    • @alchang1515
      @alchang1515 3 роки тому +2

      @Emerald Hawk Bullshit. The USSR invaded Japan a day after the USA dropped the A-bombs. A Japanese proverb describes it as "The thief sneaks in during a fire".

  • @haweater1555
    @haweater1555 3 роки тому +14

    Most telling statement: "Even a single unaccounted for nuke would be a nightmare. "

  • @JRM92B
    @JRM92B 2 роки тому +1

    I like that this video is 10 months old and not influenced by the conflict between Russia and Ukraine

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia 3 роки тому +141

    If Russia had managed to hold on for just another year, it would've had a seat at the victors' table at Versailles. The allies were right on the threshold of receiving an infusion of around two million fresh US troops on the western front, which would have spelled an end to Germany's eastern campaign.

    • @IudiciumInfernalum
      @IudiciumInfernalum 3 роки тому +14

      Not to mention there were Entante troops marching unopposed towards Germany's South Eastern frontier through what used to be the Austro-Hungarian empire near the end of WWI.

    • @foolsgold9993
      @foolsgold9993 3 роки тому +28

      Everybody hold the press now.
      America declared war on April 6, 1917 after the February Revolution and the abdication of the Czar in 15 March 1917. The Kerensky Offensive in July proved that they were right and the Russian Army can't fight much longer.
      On the 3rd of March in 1918 the Bolsheviks signed the Peace Treaty and the Eastern Front dissolved. The Germans got a chance to win the War before the Americans arrive to Europe. At the end of March they broke through the Western Front and threatened Paris again.
      So without the events in Russia the Americans would have joined the war much later or maybe they didn't even have to.
      The Entente troops started their "unopposed march" through what "used to be the Austro-Hungarian Empire" in the Balkan only after the armistice with Bulgaria in the September of 1918.
      The Italian campaign started at the end of October. Within a week the Habsburg Empire ceased to exist.
      At the same time the German Revolution was already afoot and by the 9th of November they proclaimed the Republic.
      Without the Russian Revolution(s) none of these could happen like this.
      Maybe if the Russians hold out for a few more years the Americans join the war too late to save the French and the Brits.

    • @captainufo4587
      @captainufo4587 3 роки тому +14

      Italy sat at the victor's table at Versailles, but that didn't stop the public opinion to consider WW1 a massive disaster, and prep up Mussolini and the fascists a couple of years later.

    • @CrowColdblade
      @CrowColdblade 3 роки тому +11

      @@foolsgold9993 lol, the Americans didnt save the french and the Britts. Brittan won the war despite the poor performance of the army. They put Europe in a blockade and starved Germany into submission. This isnt what we learn in school because targeting an entire civilian population like that is a war crime.

    • @frenchguitarguy1091
      @frenchguitarguy1091 3 роки тому +2

      @@foolsgold9993 the Americans didn't save the French or British, they certainly made the late war easier, but what won the war was the evolution of tactics that made trench warfare obsolete and the collapse of the German and austro Hungarian empires.

  • @TRDPaul
    @TRDPaul 2 роки тому +38

    "Even a single unaccounted for nuke would be a disaster"
    I don't want to worry you but there are currently 6 unaccounted for nukes somewhere in the world

    • @thatisabsolutelykooooge2211
      @thatisabsolutelykooooge2211 2 роки тому

      wow. source? thanks

    • @scorpioneldar
      @scorpioneldar 2 роки тому +6

      ​@@thatisabsolutelykooooge2211 the USSR also lost several Nukes during their collapse. though most of those have fallen back under USSR or US control. between the two nations at one point over 30 nukes were lost or went missing. the US calls this scenario a "broken arrow" event.

    • @thatisabsolutelykooooge2211
      @thatisabsolutelykooooge2211 2 роки тому

      @@scorpioneldar wow that’s insane. These nukes could go off anywhere at any time.

    • @scorpioneldar
      @scorpioneldar 2 роки тому +8

      ​ @Woody Woodpeckin Wood it is extremely unlikely that any of the 6 missing US nukes will ever detonate. that is because US Nukes have a multi stage arming process which must be carried out just prior to deployment and the codes to carry this out are both top secret and change regularly. this is to ensure that if any US nuke say for example falls from the plane early that the US won't accidentally Nuke itself or even just the wrong island in the Pacific this also disincentives rouge aviators acting on their own )they have to get the codes when authorized to deploy the weapon,, and also makes stealing a US nuke less useful. as one of those stages have to be carried out from the plane/Submarine/Launch platform before deployment those nukes are not actually capable of detonating. Them being lost is still a big deal though as the nuclear materiel inside them could be repurposed into another device or their construction could be reverse engineered.
      USSR weapons on the other hand came in a variety of styles. some of the later devices much like American ones were multi stage devices whereas others were always active and dangerous and a few only had a single arming step (known as 1 stage safe)
      if any of the unsafe bombs were going to detonate unintentionally they probably already would have. but they still pose the same greater threat of nuclear proliferation and access to materials. and of course the simpler to arm ones could be weaponized by some discovering third party. This is why the International community worked very fast to find most of the missing soviet nukes (even at times involving some soviet officers coordinating with US special forces during the collapse of the USSR) while sometimes leaving US missing nukes in place for decades despite having a pretty good idea where they were. instead just surveilling the likely site. (one of the Missing US nukes has been technically missing for 71 years now.)

    • @thatisabsolutelykooooge2211
      @thatisabsolutelykooooge2211 2 роки тому +3

      @@scorpioneldar thank you for the valuable information!!

  • @goso03
    @goso03 3 роки тому +24

    Super interesting video! Cool fact - on 03:52 you can see the ''Tzar Osvoboditel'' square in Sofia, Bulgaria. The monument is in honor of the russian tzar Alexander, who defeated the Ottoman Empire in the liberation war of Bulgaria.

  • @JTMarlin8
    @JTMarlin8 2 роки тому +4

    Russia is just one giant miniature golf course. Can't we just raze it already?

  • @triadwarfare
    @triadwarfare 3 роки тому +54

    Well, Eastern Russia (Including Siberia) don't really seem like Russia. They seem to be apathetic towards Western Russia and as long as the West does not interfere with the culture and lives of the East, they don't seem to demand for independence.

    • @XIXCentury
      @XIXCentury 3 роки тому +15

      yeah bro it's called a federal state

    • @mekolayn
      @mekolayn 3 роки тому +16

      @@XIXCentury Too bad that it's federal state only on papers.

    • @dragonlord1225
      @dragonlord1225 3 роки тому +9

      Source: trust me bro

    • @CitsVariants
      @CitsVariants 3 роки тому +5

      @@dragonlord1225 source: eastern russians

    • @Nelsonwmj
      @Nelsonwmj 3 роки тому +5

      Not wrong. And I feel that in this video Caspian Report missed the mark on Siberia and the Russian Far East. China already has massive demographical and geopolitical influence in the Russian Far East. A lot of what he said about China moving to assert influence and control in Central Eurasia and the Russian Far East... is either already happening or already happened, just under the radar of most political and military observers.

  • @Vulcano7965
    @Vulcano7965 2 роки тому +11

    "What if Russia collapsed?"
    Mongolia: my time has come!

  • @KameronAbear
    @KameronAbear 3 роки тому +57

    I feel like Russia will not be disappearing anytime soon. It's been through the worst of the worst, yet it managed to exist.

    • @goosenuggets9693
      @goosenuggets9693 3 роки тому +2

      Mate, Russia has only existed for 30 years.

    • @goosenuggets9693
      @goosenuggets9693 3 роки тому +1

      Nobody would be that surprised if it collapsed.

    • @pumasiK
      @pumasiK 3 роки тому +8

      @@goosenuggets9693 lmfao what

    • @pumasiK
      @pumasiK 3 роки тому +10

      @@goosenuggets9693 Russia existed twice as long as probably your country's whatever it might be

    • @АлександрСмага-й7п
      @АлександрСмага-й7п 3 роки тому +2

      @@pumasiK Russia started in 1721 omegalul

  • @thomasalbrecht5914
    @thomasalbrecht5914 2 роки тому +3

    Nobody would really take notice, and that’s what drives Russia mad.

  • @trekkienzl2862
    @trekkienzl2862 3 роки тому +17

    Please do:
    * What would happen if the US 🇺🇸 collapsed
    * What would happen if Pakistan 🇵🇰 collapsed
    * What would happen if China 🇨🇳 collapsed
    * What would happen if the EU 🇪🇺 collapsed

    • @Aquila-1234
      @Aquila-1234 3 роки тому +1

      @Lulu Maori what would happen if aboriginals successfully decolonize North America? They would get their land back. All of North America. If.

  • @lukekent9386
    @lukekent9386 3 роки тому +81

    I would also be curious of the fate of the Kaliningrad exclave, as well as the island claims of Japan. If things get crazy enough, would Finland also get some of its lost territory back?

    • @TheMaster4534
      @TheMaster4534 3 роки тому +30

      Poland would just swallow Kaliningrad, most likely

    • @KA_Videos
      @KA_Videos 3 роки тому +14

      @@TheMaster4534 If Poland would take Kaliningrad, Warsaw would cease exist for second time. Kaliningrad has strong army precense and they have deployed missiles there.

    • @Hollywood2021
      @Hollywood2021 3 роки тому +3

      @@KA_Videos *3rd time

    • @gachizbyszek1847
      @gachizbyszek1847 3 роки тому +2

      @@KA_Videos Poland's rockets can reach Moscow already. Poles don't need some poor piece of land.

    • @KA_Videos
      @KA_Videos 3 роки тому +18

      @@gachizbyszek1847 What rockets? Russia has capability to turn Warsaw and all other Polish cities into nuclear wasteland in case Poland attacks Russia

  • @Erny_Module
    @Erny_Module 2 роки тому +57

    An eminently reasonable and well thought out analysis. It seems we have some 'interesting times' ahead of us. End of History? Not bloody likely!

    • @tama3442
      @tama3442 2 роки тому

      Have faith in JESUS CHRIST as LORD and SAVIOR for HE SAVES ❗️
      *What is the Gospel?*
      The true gospel is the good news that God saves sinners. Man is by nature sinful and separated from God with no hope of remedying that situation. But God, by His power, provided the means of man’s redemption in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Savior, Jesus Christ.
      Ephesians 2:8-9
      For it is by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of GOD, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
      Romans 10:9
      9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
      JESUS CHRIST can come anytime!
      Just Believe ❤️ Love you and GOD BLESS

    • @sitfish1113
      @sitfish1113 2 роки тому +4

      @@tama3442 Shut up your making Christianity look like a joke

    • @Tavat
      @Tavat 2 роки тому +1

      @@tama3442 No thanks

  • @STUDIO-ew8dz
    @STUDIO-ew8dz 2 роки тому

    we are looking forward to this

  • @smasher123ism
    @smasher123ism 3 роки тому +6

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  • @magnoliy08
    @magnoliy08 2 роки тому +10

    well this is just around the corner

  • @chuseinakayama8483
    @chuseinakayama8483 3 роки тому +91

    "The Russian Federation will be reorganized into the first Russo-Canadian Empire, for a safe and secure Arctic." (Empress Elizabeth I, Alaska Annexation Proclamation.)

    • @nETbKaH
      @nETbKaH 3 роки тому +1

      I'd like being a Canadian

    • @tritium1998
      @tritium1998 3 роки тому +3

      The British Commonwealth is more likely to disintegrate. The far-right in Canada even want to become part of the USA, ironically.

    • @ioan-ovidiucocolos9225
      @ioan-ovidiucocolos9225 3 роки тому +3

      "So this is how democracy dies...with thunderous applause" - Senator Trudeau

    • @jimcarlson6157
      @jimcarlson6157 3 роки тому +2

      @@nETbKaH then your hockey team would be much better

    • @retrovirus_exe
      @retrovirus_exe 3 роки тому

      Execute Order 66

  • @bjornsvalling1066
    @bjornsvalling1066 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for yet another insightful episode Shirvan!

  • @simoncorreia5686
    @simoncorreia5686 3 роки тому +102

    I think the real question should be, what will happen when the United States collapses.

    • @TheMaster4534
      @TheMaster4534 3 роки тому +15

      The whole world suffers. Since everyone is so dependent on the USA save for a couple countries like North Korea, Belarus, the Central Asian republics, and Iran

    • @lukekent9386
      @lukekent9386 3 роки тому +15

      Likely a decline of the US would not result in immediate collapse. Diminished global affairs to begin with, while still pursuing key interests with ally groups. Probably coalitions of states would form internally and rally for slightly greater autonomy while still honoring some level of national government.

    • @simoncorreia5686
      @simoncorreia5686 3 роки тому +15

      @@TheMaster4534 both Western Europe and America have already collapsed. The only thing left is the fiat currencies, once inflation kicks in very soon.

    • @TheMaster4534
      @TheMaster4534 3 роки тому +14

      @@lukekent9386 but still, economically its gonna hurt a lot. When the US stumbles, all its vassals would fall with it. In the form of economic pain.
      Can say it myself as a citizen of a US banana colony in Asia.

    • @tibne2412
      @tibne2412 3 роки тому +8

      Relief

  • @fdr8343
    @fdr8343 3 роки тому +41

    Apart of me wants to run this through a simulation....

    • @TheMaster4534
      @TheMaster4534 3 роки тому +5

      So, basically the lore of the TNO mod for HoI4?

    • @dannydenzogpa5000
      @dannydenzogpa5000 3 роки тому +1

      Where do you think the Facebooks and Twitters of the world invest their R&D money in !

    • @goosenuggets9693
      @goosenuggets9693 3 роки тому

      @@dannydenzogpa5000 They invest in simulating market and technology trends, not Geopolitcal outcomes.

    • @dannydenzogpa5000
      @dannydenzogpa5000 3 роки тому

      @@goosenuggets9693 or really, so there is no gaming of the society ? no group behavioural mapping ? no color revolutions being organised and perpetrated by Big Tech?? cute...keep living in dreams.

  • @suroot
    @suroot 2 роки тому +21

    I like your opinions. I've thought about and dreaded the collapse of Russia. Too many rogue nations and radical ideologies would gain access to nuclear warheads. I also daydreamed about Russia joining NATO someday.

    • @csabakis4214
      @csabakis4214 2 роки тому

      That may still happen (I hope not), after the aggressive steps Putin made, Russia seems to be on the backfoot at the moment. I also had a daydream, Russia joining the NATO ... but more importantly the EU. Sadly Russia never experienced democracy, it moved from one dictatorship to another, or during Jelcin, a softer form of an authoritarian regime. I think there hasnt really ever been a synergy between the ruling elite (today the president and his oligarchs) and the common people. Why "everyone" thinks all the time, that resisting and feuding with NATO or any other neighbouring countries is baseline? I fail to see that the common people is wanting something like that - ordinary people wants to live a healthy, long, happy life in peace ... I wonder if there will be a time when the people will remove dictators, populists, autocrats from power permanently all over the globe ...

    • @rb26benjamin8
      @rb26benjamin8 2 роки тому +7

      They tried in 1953 and 2000 and was told that Russia was too big amd independent meaning g its army is too strong and its economy and ideology is hard to uproot unlike Yugoslavia so in summary they nato want only Minnion states whom the can control nato is a tool to prevent Africa South America and the middle east from developing economic and military wise to balance the power of dictation from the west and Europe all u have to do is look at all the wars they have incited since 1953 will tell u the truth intention of said nato to subdue and control and intimate

    • @suroot
      @suroot 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@rb26benjamin8 I think it's difficult for many to imagine what it's like to have a vote, to live in freedom, and have some agency over your own life.

    • @rb26benjamin8
      @rb26benjamin8 2 роки тому

      @@suroot exactly free to do what do when they dictate everything anyways

    • @misham6547
      @misham6547 2 роки тому

      EU maybe but NATO is hard because of china