Always Hungry on Carnivore or Keto? One Possible Cause
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- If you're always hungry on carnivore or keto (or any diet), here is one potential cause.
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Study Mentioned: bit.ly/4bc3fgC
Key Points from the Study:
• Chronic sucralose diet triggers increased food intake
• Dietary sucralose creates a sweet/energy imbalance
• This activates a neuronal starvation response
• Sucralose effect on feeding is conserved from flies to mammals
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This happened to me when I thought I was on a keto diet but I was not really in ketosis. When in ketosis, most people’s appetite is greatly reduced. The way to solve the problem is very simple - measure ketones! If your body produces .5mmol/L of ketones or more then you are in ketosis and you won’t be very hungry. Many influencers, including famous ones with PhDs mislabel a diet as keto by focusing on low carbs without measuring ketones. I was on a lean carnivore diet eating zero carbs. The misinformed doctors would call my diet a keto diet because I was not eating carbs. When I learned that I was not on a real keto diet because I was not producing measurable ketones, only then I was able to modify my diet by eating more fatty meat. Then I was able to enter ketosis (by real measurements and not assumptions). Once I finally was on a real keto diet I was not hungry. Many times I have to remind myself to eat because I don’t want to lose any more weight. I recommend teaching people the difference between a real keto diet based on the production of ketones and a fake keto diet based on assumptions.
Thanks for sharing this! For me, I was in ketosis above 0.5, but had this issue from the stevia. It's always good to check ketones with a finger-stick device. It's definitely important to know what's going on with the body. It's also important to know that once you lose a lot of body fat and are super lean, you might have an increase in the appetite (even when in ketosis) as every meal is so important for the body (if you have little for fat reserves).
Good to hear that your sleep has improved Holly! Did your 'High Energy drink' contain Caffeine.? For some people high caffeine intake can lead to sleep problems, and other side effects. It seems we don't fully know the long-term health effects of so many things. Stevia is one of many things where research is ongoing. So we're still the 'guinea pigs. I don't know what else we can do other than experiment with what might work for us personally.? 🤷♂
I’m ravenous on Carnivore although I eat like a T-Rex. But, I don’t consume any artificial sweetners.
Hmmmm..
Yeah this is relatable.
Very helpful info! I also had an issue with stevia. I used to use it in my morning tea AND it was in my Natural Calm magnesium flavored powder. I was having heart palps for years and did not know why! Turns out, stevia can cause low blood pressure and mine is already on the low side, so I finally figured it out, quit stevia, problem SOLVED. I only use unflavored mag powder now too. I now use glycine powder in my tea and raw honey in everything else!
Thanks for sharing this too. I didn't know Natural Calm also had stevia in it. So interesting that it caused heart palpitations. Those can be kind of scary or unsettling to have. I'm so glad to hear the issue is gone. And, do you take glycine in your tea in the mornings? I think it would make me sleepy! I agree with you on the honey. I think that's much better than these artificial sweeteners.
@@ChloeBelle, did you ever try using your own stevia by just steeping the stevia leaves themselves? I wonder is that would affect you the same way. I’m glad you figured that out! I really need to look into glycine!
The only thing I want to say this is that stevia is usually tied with dextrose in most packets and anywhere you go to buy stevia packets, there are a very few selections that don’t contain dextrose. Dextrose is what causes problems bc it’s the highest on the (GI) glycemic index, where stevia is 0. And some companies count dextrose as a natural flavor, like LMNT when it is not .
Also stevia isn’t an artificial sugar, its own plant. And by itself it is safe
I'm really hungry all the time... I have been really strict carnivore for 30 days. Meat eggs, water, and salt. No artificial sweeteners. I don't know what's wrong. 😢
You're body might be needing the extra vitamins from meat which you not been given it for some time. Should be okay after couple months
For years, I've noticed this weird chicken-and-egg-correlation in my friends and family whereby the most chronic consumers of artificial sweeteners are also the most morbidly obese. Logic would, of course, suggest that people use zero-cal' sweeteners BECAUSE they are overweight, not the other way around. It would scoff at the idea that people could become overweight because they use zero cal' sweeteners. But more and more scientific research is beginning to question that assumption. And back up your own observations.
Aspartame is a particular no-no because it is toxic in its own right. It was developed as an insecticide.
On the upside, it's good that you are developing such a finely tuned understanding of your own body, Holly. I just wish this bio-hacking could give us another 150 years to play with because I feel as if we could spend the first 100 just sloughing off all of the false conceptions that are fed to us by society and corporations. And the only way to truly do that is by trial and error and experimentation. And thoughtful observation of human behavior.
And maybe moving to a cabin in the woods to get away from all of the mad ***ers. 😀
And quietly living.
BTW, if you get too energetic on that trampoline, you'll put your head through the ceiling. I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm just saying that maybe you should film it and upload it for clicks. But it would be a shame because it's such a pretty head and it would get all gnarly and squished like a windfall-apple.
Actually, maybe focus on the compliment and disregard the bits on either side. I think I just did the brain-fart-thing again.
Yowza!!, You’re A nice mix of Ashley Judd, Traci-Lords & Marissa Tomei.
And Alyssa Milano! Isn’t she stunning?? Holly is one of the most beautiful people I’ve ever seen! ❤
Thanks for sharing what worked for you!
However, doubtful of that fly study since flies typically have a lifespan of 15-30 days.
Still, I appreciate you sharing what worked for you to solve your hunger. Thanks for sharing this info with us!
Im throwing away my “fake “ stevia 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
I think you look more tired. I understand the needs to cut all possible inflammation but in a long term I m not convinced it will be good. I already notice that more people start to have a lot of stress issue due to what to eat or not. I do IF for a couple of years, the most low carb possible, no gluten, no milk, I m a runner also and go to the gym, sleep the most good possible etc. We are all gonna dye no matter what we do so o think it's not good lived always stress or obsessed with too much details about food and impact on our body. We need to live the more balanced and peaceful possible. We are not going to eliminate all the dangers around us. It's a battle that we are not going to win. 🤷🏻♀️
I am eating what works best for me. It's pretty simple and low stress for me. It's also not hard for me as I already gave up gluten and dairy years ago. I do agree with you that we're all going to die so don't obsess or stress over every little thing - life is too short.
@@LifeDIY Just curios as to why you gave up dairy. I've been having terrible lower back and hip pain that started about a year ago. I cut dairy out 8 days ago and I think its starting to feel better. Hoping that dairy is the culprit cause I'm sick and tired of living in constant pain.
Stored energy. You don't have enough energy and not from food type of energy. Find other ways to build stored energy and most issues will vanish. Like taking PQQ and coQ10 or add sulfur/minerals to your water.
Thanks, John! I am taking some coQ10. I will look into this more.
i saw that my electrolytes had a lot of sugar in it and i would drink it 2x a day
Omg that happened to me, thanks for sharing 🙏🏼🌸☀️🌷
No problem! It's interesting to hear that you experienced that too. 🙏
I am but i don’t use sweeteners. I think I need to retrain what hunger is
maybe thin people need lot more fat..
Noooooo . My Stevia.. this could explain something.. How's the rebounder ?? , I've wanted to do that too , it even helps with detoxing with the lymph system
The rebounder is great! I am surprisingly sore. I'll do a video on it coming up. I love using it throughout the day. I bought an Acon.
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I am on this diet and I feel so hungry too, now I realize It is because I am drinking coffee , and as soon as i stopped that i was fine .
Black coffee?
@@caroldorothy4138 Yes, but sometimes I add a little milk.
I’m always hungry…the only two things I can think of in relation to the point you made in your video is I drink Costco flavor club sodas that are “naturally enhanced” AND I just read the ingredients on my magnesium supplement from Costco called CALM has stevia added to it😡
I don’t want to get rid of either, but I’m always craving food…butter ground beef steak sardines bacon all of it. Frustrating
Stevia is plant based and not artificial.
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i have active lifestyle and have no problem with 500-900carbs per day. They satisfie me
i m having this issue ....i feel hunger even after food ..i take flavoured multivitamins in water that taste good ..like a juices....
My son hates eating the fat and cartilage on our meats. He's 16 and picky, and not totally carnivore like I am. Need those fats though!
Yeah that's understandable.....maybe it will take time for him to acquire the taste for it. :)
Fry out the fat and make 'cracklins' and cook the cartilage in broth for soup until it dissolves.
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thanks for sharing. I feel the same on a low carb diet (animal based). Will stop the artificial sweeteners. They cause also bloating.
you need carbs my friend. some people just do better on them.
@@rm6857 correct. I had 100g of white rice last dinner. With eggs and some cheese.
Had my best sleep in weeks...
yes, rice is good. Another option is lentils if you soak them for a day, then you can even fry them, and had slow releasing carbs, or in warm soup in winter. No need to going to extremes. Sometimes you can even have some sweets@@mikaday5856
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing Holly. The food industry has a lot to Anderton for.
So true!
I have the opposite problem, I wish I was hungry.
I’m so glad to hear your sleep is better, Holly, and oh my gosh! I see your Bellicon in the background!! Yay!! I hope you’re loving it!! 🎉
So funny you’re bringing up this topic because it’s been on my mind lately as I am currently addicted to “naturally flavored” teas and stevia. I added them in to replace dairy when I cut it out for a while, but now I’ve brought dairy back and I’m still drinking the tea! 😂 I may just quite cold turkey!! 😬
Aww thank you! I actually bought an Acon rebounder instead of the Bellicon. I am loving it! I totally understand about these "naturally flavored" drinks and using them to replace something else. I did the same thing. I've now replaced that drink with tea. I don't like the taste but you just get used to it. :) Eventually I'll quit the tea too.
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Oh, awesome! I’m happy to find out about Acon, and I’m so happy you’re loving it! 🎉🎉
Yes!! I will have to switch to herbal tea and then probably back to just hot water with butter. 🤪 You will help inspire me since I know you’re dealing with the same issue! ☺️
Thank you!!! I am loving the rebounder. Yeah I'm drinking some organic tea - sometimes green tea, sometimes black tea. I add some lemon so it tastes better. Good luck with the hot butter water! lol...it just sounds a bit rough. :)) But, I've seen people do that as a coffee replacement.
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LOL, right?! 😂 I will say though that I was sick last October, and warm water with butter was so comforting! If you use enough butter, it’s pretty good! Hehe! 🧈❤️
Love your videos and information beautiful brown eyed woman. I was so hungry By now. You are a Hottie
Hi Holly. Like that you test what works and not. ❤ Thanks for the advice. Appreciate your information. Thank you. 😊
Thanks, Graham!
Only reason why you are hungry on keto is because your macros are not good. 80/20! 80pct fat and 20pct protein.
Every person is different and has different requirements for fats. Some people do better eating smaller meals multiple times a day, others do better with one meal a day. Each person is different and should figure it out on their own. In my case, my hunger was from the stevia.
I am never hungry to a fault. When I did not eat carni style, I was always hungry. Now I count calories to make sure I get a minimum of 1800 calories because I am never hungry and I have to force food down to get enough calories!!! Strange world.
Same!!! My hunger persisted or came back after I gave up stevia. Most people will say it's due to not eating enough fat, but even when I have more fats I am still extremely hungry. I noticed if I add in some things, I do much better. I used to have it the way you described - where I had less of an appetite and had to work to get in enough calories. :)
Holly, you're a good "story teller"....
Luckily I cut all sweeteners out of my carnivore diet...stevia was the last sweetener I cut out.
However my "dirty" carnivore still include fat cheese, 3 different nuts, cream, BP-coffee, tea, applecider vinegar, black pepper.....I will try to exclude them one by one from my diet.....
I don't blame you for including those things in. If they don't cause you any issues, then good! I've added some things in and they're helping me. I also drink coffee and eat nuts sometimes. :) I think ACV and spices are great too.
Thanks, Holly, for this video! I’ll have to experiment with this too!
Thanks, Adam! 🙏
That makes sense... I personally find fresh squeezed lemon works for me in water, that and black earl grey tea totally squashes hunger. I couldnt do keto/carnivore without lemon...plus it gives me my daily Vit C. plus other vitamin content.
Yes, that's perfect and a great way to get Vitamin C! It also makes tea taste a million times better.
Interesting connection. I am not even doing keto or carnivore, but by mistake I bought some liquid collagen online that has sucralose. Have always stayed away from artificial sweeteners and if I read on a label of a product that it contains such ingredients I would never buy it. However the collagen must have been reformulated as it was not previously in it. Long story short. I have been so undisciplined and eating all day long for the last few weeks now and could not figure out why. I am usually someone who can go the whole day without food if I am busy. Not lately. Will be so curious to see if the constant hunger feeling goes away again once the bottle is used up . Maybe it's something else but now that I've seen your video will definitely pay attention and hopefully once I stay away from sucralose all would go back to normal.
It's strange they woukd add that to collagen.. I hope you stop back here with an update if the hunger goes away after you stop using that.
My issue with the keto diets is the fake sugars!! They’re horrible for you cancer causing fake sugar.. I’d rather use cane or brown sugar but then its not keto. Lol
For some people, they don't have any short term issues with the fake sugar, and it can help them as they're transitioning from eating sugar, to getting rid of it and going lower carb. But for me, I don't like the side effects and unknowns of it. So I too would rather have real sugar or honey than the fake sugar.
Holly, thank you for sharing your food journey. It’s true that stevia (pronounced stee vee ah) is an issue not just in terms of metabolism and residuals as pertains but for many reasons. As experts in nutrition and regenerative medicine, we are mindful of multiple problems with stevia. Of note: it is not an artificial sugar or sweetener, it’s an alternative sweetener because it is plant based. The chemicals often used to produce it can be artificial. But there are people who grow and process it themselves. ANY FORM of stevia is problematic no matter how “natural”. The major issue is that it slows and inhibits signaling. This can be great for someone with epilepsy (*caveat below) or someone who’s pain signaling reduces but not good for memory and cognition. It also has an additional unwanted residual effect, it causes apoptosis, particularly to brain cells. In fact you can find at least one study (in mice) that compared aspartame, sucralose and stevia. It found that stevia had MORE apoptosis than the 2 artificial chemical sweeteners! It can also *cause seizures. It can also cause more frequent urination and the dumping of electrolytes because it’s a diuretic. It also lowers blood pressure (artificially). And the following can be the reason the symptoms you had (and the flies in the study): it lowers blood sugar. It’s in many supplements: electrolytes supps, energy drinks and powders, and many, many other supps. We have patients read labels and eliminate ALL products with stevia. Will check back to see if you figured out your sleep issue. Dr. Judy had a sleep expert on recently who talks in depth about a number of multifactorials. Might be worth your time to watch it. 👊
Todd, thank you so much for sharing this. I think I've always pronounced it wrong! And, thanks for clarifying on the details of stevia and how it's natural. Your information here is very helpful and I really appreciate it. Do you mind if I repost some of your comment to my forum? I want to share this with others because most people who I know do consume stevia. I am very glad I gave it up. It only takes such a small amount of it for me to have symptoms. I'm going to check out Nutrition with Judy now - thank you! 🙏
@@LifeDIY all info I share on your channel is yours to pass along. You can source as regenerative medicine specialists in Colorado. I’ll be checking to see how the sleep issues go for you. You’re doing a bang up job and I have the intuition that what you find out will benefit some of our patients.
PS the mispronunciation of stevia is rampant in “carnivore” circles for some reason.
Sorry for my late reply, Todd. Thank you so much for the kind comment! Have you ever thought of creating UA-cam videos on these types of topics? I am sure they would help a lot of people. I will do an update video in the near future to share what's helped me with my sleep issues. Thanks again, Todd!
What about Stevia?
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Thank you very much
i just woke up. pf.... a lot has been going on, i was very sick, i'll leave a message in pvt, lol.
anyway, yeah... when everyone started their crusade against sugar, i was like "well just have less" but no.... everyone jumps on the sweetener wagon (and i am not even talking about stevia which is natural, there are a lot of chemicals out there that taste sweet)
and like many chemicals, they bond to your red blood cells composition and trigger some neuronal impulses that create addiction.
when you make a pie at home, and it may seem to you like you are adding too much sugar, keep in mind that what ever you buy that is industrially made, has a lot more and it's probably corn syrup which puts stress on our liver(or a combination of sugar and corn syrup)
sugar and carbs in general are a welcoming stress reliever for one's liver this is why we need some carbs in our diet, but corn syrup does the opposite, because of the chemical composition of the stuff.