Choosing the Right Baitcasting Float Rod for Salmon Fishing | Fishing with Rod
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Float fishing for chinook and coho salmon in rivers is a popular method in British Columbia Canada, and this video looks at the length, rating, power, action and price of different baitcasting rods for float fishing.
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Dude how is it possible that I’m shopping for my first salmon trip for my dad and I right now. New to the channel appreciate your kindness towards new salmon fisherman.
Google and me read your mind last night. 😆 I hope it was helpful.
@@FishingwithRod LOL, yes it was thank you. I will probably consider the fast option where i can throw a spinner or float rig if i want. Can I get by with a 3 to 4000 size spin reel? A lot of the East Coast Great Lakes runs folks seem to use spinning or fly/centerpin reel, just based on the research and videos ive watched.
@@LightSpinAngler yup! 3000-4000 would be perfect! A lot of Washington and Oregon anglers down south use spinning gear for salmon fishing! Same concept. Look up Addicted fishing on YT they get really into depth on using spinning rods for salmon and steelhead fishing.
I use a 4000 size spinning reel for my 8' rod. It would probably balance better with a 10'6" rod but its fine as is.
Hi Rod, great video. Regarding action of the rod, there is an important part of rod action when comes to fighting a fish. Fishing rod is doing a job like the shock absorber in our car, especially the tip section. For example, when you driving on a very bumpy mountain rod, when you driving it slowly, a set of slow rebound rate shock absorbers is good enough keep your car stay stable. When you start to accelerate, the car will beginning to jumping around, and the tires are having hard time to stay touch on the ground. Translating this to fishing, when you fishing in fast and rapid water, and the fish is head shaking and rolling insanely, you will need a fast action rod to keep up with the pulling between you and fish in order to keep the hook stay inside fish’s mouth. Especially a lot of people are using braid nowadays, there is no marginal stretch. You are right about the cost and weight ratio about rod. The extra cost goes into weight reduction. Lighter and stronger materials cost more . Plus additional labour hours for sending down the excessive materials.
Those Loomis rods are amazing but I have only used them for surf fishing 😅.
Hi Rod. I really like your vids and advice. I fish everything & everywhere, not always successfully.
I have some 'real' Cabela rods built on Loomis blanks. Gary Loomis got a huge boost in his beginnings from the Cabela brothers. Later, at almost the same time, Loomis was bought by Shimano and stopped Loomis blank sales, and Cabela bros sold to Bass Pro Shops. Retirement age hits so many people.
I've had exceptional service & integrity from Shimano as a North American distributor when I've had any issues. They had & hopefully retain a vision of providing excellent products & wonderful service. I do love Shimano rods. My favorites are the Cennan line, but Talus has taken over as Cennan vanished. I'm now too old & too well equipped to try the 'new' ones which are black instead of bronze. For moving water, I totally love my Cabela XML rods, 8'6"-10'6", they are Loomis blanks, and I have several in spinning & casting.. I do love Shimano rods, having several. Yet I also have special purpose rods which I equally enjoy. Still, the Cennan, 10'6", slow-heavy, 40# casting rod, for me is nirvana with a C3-7000, braids & anything over 1/2oz. (on-shore casting ,I've had to pay for more than a couple boat windscreens and they were nowhere close to shore, 2-oz BuzzBombs & DeadlyDicks).
For spinning reels, the really big deal is: #1-Drags can be really cranked down. #2, assuming the reel does this, the "cross-lapping" of line on retrieve is a truly big deal when using braids. With monos, it's a PITA because you get fewer yards on a spool due to 'cross-lapping'. Cross-lapping line avoids or minimizes "spool-dig" of braids if you need to pull-off a really hard snag, or fish, or seal. Distant, but #3 is backlash, especially casting into the wind. Yet, I've never had a pig-tail using jigs, worms, spoons or spinners using bait-cast reels, "Bait-Feed" spinning reels eliminate all arguments over "feeding a drift or float".
I'm especially fond of ABU bait-cast reels, particularly the EXT Pro 5600 (bronze color), pale blue D6, 5600/6600, and all the green C5 Mag-X, in 4600-6600. For shore-casting I have 2 gold Shimano round reels, but prefer my C3-7000 & my Shimano Curado in size 300 with a German DAM 'Steel Power' ultra-thin 17.6# mono line (don't use spinning as it's quite hard & stiff). I use a lot of braids, but more monos. D6, 6600, hot-pink Fireline, Maxima Ultragreen leader, a group of 6 on a river-charter, I limited-out the group for chinooks. Each hook-up, I had to pass the rod the each 'next' guy. That was novel the first time, expected each subsequent charter. For your fishing the Vedder, the 4600 would be perfect...with line of choice. I like the fine-tuning of 'dual' cast-control, and absolutely love the 'synchro' of the level-wind casting with all Ambassadeurs and only a couple other brand-models in moderate sizes. older "Cabo PT" & "Great-White" (the true Cabelas) both made by Quantum (Zebco) come easily to mind, and they easily toss +3/8oz jigs, spinners & spoons into rivers., but 1/2oz, a ton in the salt.
Still, , I'm a gear-freak and try new 'stuff'. But I truly miss some of the monos available in the hotly-competitive market that existed even just 15 years ago. Some of those were the epitome of plastic lines... Excalibre by Silver Thread, TripleFish perlon flourescent multicolor, Gamma, Cabela (TripleFish), SunLine 'Pure' nylon. And yup, I loved Fireline 'crystal' & Stren fused florescent blue/white. When Cabelas was in competition with BassPro Shops, each had tons of brands of similar & different gear, and were hotly price-competitive...and so were many other retailers. Now, with Cabelas gone, the number of brands available nearly everywhere has vanished, and the selection of rarities has disappeared... with Pure Fishing, Zebco & ??? as the leading market-share of manufacturers of everything. Where is Peetz?, who made the most gorgeous mahogany single-action reels with a brass washer & wing nut as a drag, and a brass-sheathed arbor to avoid crushing? A bit lumpy? Yup. A thing of joy to palm & reel? Yup. Real beauty to accompany the joy of fishing?. Absolutely.
Isn't that the most important thing about fishing? Even Fly-Fishers are losing that concept. Imagine your (Royal Coachman) floating delicately along the current, watching it vanish in a light slurp, timing your mighty hook-set with a glass or cane rod parabolic under the strain of a 14oz prey, hoping you are the victor... Then?, you unhook, let it catch its' breath, and let it go. After all, it's not always you need to eat a $3 fish which just cost you $5,000 (gas, insurance, time, vehicle, equipment, tackle (Winston, Islander/Hardy), fly-tying gear & supplies). It's the joy of conquest, compassion & nature that keeps you coming back for the miracle that is "the great outdoors" and the peace of fishing, the joy at letting it go, or fry-pan at the campsite.
It's all of that which makes you an environmentalist, far more credible, invested & superior to the "big city princesses" who truly have zero concept of life in any real form, as they live in their concrete boxes, buy food at super-stores and climb the groomed trail of a Grouse Grind, trying to be "adventurers".
Hi Rod, nice video again. I think it’s worth mentioning the Gloomis multi-taper design which is the essence of Gloomis rods…I also have the IMX 6-12lb (such a great rod and difficult to get nowadays) and the IMX Pro 10-20lb, both having tremendous amount of power stored in the blanks, the butt section bends well with power, never felt any stiffness when fighting the fish, very comfortable in the hands, feel lighter than their actual weights…all these qualities are because of the multi-taper design created by Garry Loomis himself who was a hardcore steelhead fisherman and genius rod builder…Shimano started their business as a reel manufacturer, their lure fishing rod lines are largely built on the foundation of Gloomis after the acquisition in the 1990s…but Shimano rods still haven’t achieved same level of performance even today, not even their flagships such as World Shaura and Exsence Infiniti, they always have that stiffness feeling when fighting fish…this is the key difference between Shimano’s Spiral-X and Gloomis multi-taper…
I just bought an okuma sst 8'6" M/L for $50. I will be using it for pinks, coho, maybe bass in the summer, and fraser winter cutties and mountain whitefish. Very versatile rod length and power. Just can't get away with it for chums or chinook.
Rarely I can find infos or reviews on do it all mooching rods. The G loomis classic salmon rod SAMR1084C is rated to take on record size King Salmon.
Thanks for all the information. I enjoyed the review.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent review on 🎣 rods & explanation of the discrimination of , what is stated on the rods. Fantastic video Rod 👌, keep up the amazing videos that you do 👏👍👏. Will the next episode be about 🎣 reels 🤔 lots of luv from England 🏴. Tight lines Rod 😊😊
I am a new salmon angler I need one of these🎣🎣👍👍😃
Great video rod thank you
I got the compre now that I am getting into float fishing and broadening a bit my gear. I have to say I really love it, especially for the price it goes for. The only thing it could be improved is the weight. It feels a bit heavy sometimes. But overall, I really like it and I think it is great for newer anglers
Yeah for an entry level rod at that price point I am pretty impressed by it. That rod (assuming you got the 10’6”, 12-20lb) is a bit on the heavy side for coho but works awesome for chinook salmon.
@@FishingwithRod yeah I got the 10.6. And I can’t be happier. And totally agree with what you said. Now I want the next higher level version. You know this game, once it starts it’s difficult to stop 😄
I'm about to watch your video Rod.
Your last equipment video overheated my credit card!
Testing my resolve.
Sorry! 😅
@@FishingwithRod 😄
Hi buddy... welcome to Shimano shop! .... LOL.... Seriously thou, just look for a good or decent brand name rod in 10.5' range, H or MH meant for line in 12-25lb range; Abu and Okuma make rods like that priced reasonably, and they will last you lifetime unless you are determined to break them. Steelhead rods work great as the fish are fierce fighters. I'm talking Chinook, Chum and Coho as well as Steelhead (which is basically a large Trout that goes into ocean to feed and play unlike other fresh water locked-in ones).
Whats the biggest difference between technum vs imx Pro, is the huge price difference worth it?
What’s a great budget friendly baitcaster reel for salmon
I am curious what’s the warranty with imx pro steel header?
Hi Rod! Love your videos and advocacy! I have a quick question: When float fishing, what type of action do you find better to set up the hook? I find myself sometimes not setting up the hook well after the bobber goes down. And I am wondering if a faster action rod would make a difference.
Yeah if you got a moderate or slow rod, you’re gonna have to set that hook hard as soon as the float drops. Faster rod makes bit of a difference, but overall the angler’s reflex probably determines most of the success. That’s why younger guys hook more fish than me these days lol.
@@FishingwithRod well, I feel you. My reflexes are terrible, but not because of my age 😂
No worry. if the hook is sharp enough, coho will hook itself most of time.
Should buy a trophy xl mooching rod for 109$ from Pacific Outfitters. Best rod and locally made
Hello Rod! New to salmon fishing.. Watching your videos, it seems like you have a baitcasting set up and a spinning set up as well for salmon fishing. How do you decide when to use which one?
My baitcasting setup is for float fishing while my spinning setup is for casting lures, both are effective during certain time of the day/season, type of water I am fishing in etc. Most of the time, especially in the middle of the season, I would bring both and run the float through first, then the lures later.
@FishingwithRod Thanks Rod!
For the bargain hunters, there are a lot of sales on Shimano Technium rods right now.
Retailers want to move the "old" models before they stock up on the upgraded rods.
Would you still pick that imx-pro for steelhead fishing? Want to jump the gun but wondering if I might just be better with the spinning 10'6 ml.
Absolutely! That IMX-PRO casting rod is pretty much all I use for steelhead in the winter months. The spinning rod is not great for float fishing, but if you want to swing a spoon, then that'd be the rod to go with instead.
I’m one of those losers who uses a spin casting rod for float fishing😆 It works, but probably not nearly as well as a bait casting setup!
It works just as good honestly. Ive fished great lakes tribs all my life. Baitcaster guys are the smallest percentage of guys I see. If you ever want to upgrade instead of a baitcaster you should look into center pins 🤙🏼 at the end of the day my great grandfather was catching salmon and trout off the piers with a cane pole and essentially thin rope as the line, dont overwhelm yourself cause of all the options and different fishing styles. Use what you got or can afford and build your technique from there.
Do you think that Shimano reuses Gloomis mandrels? Or are they still inhouse only?
even if they did, the materials and construction won't be the same. carbon scrim vs fiberglass etc.
Hey Rod. Could you send us the link of the IMX PRO 10’6 you showed us?
Yeah I had a video about it at ua-cam.com/video/iwpjcbFbWXA/v-deo.html
and on G.Loomis' website it's at www.gloomis.com/collections/conventional-salmon-steelhead/products/imx-pro-steelhead-float-casting
Hey rod, how much line capacity would be required for chinook? I bought a low profile baitcaster but it only holds about 100 yards of 40lb braid. Do you think that would be enough?
That would depend on how big the chinook salmon you’re targeting of course. I’ve been using a Curado 200 lately and landing fish up to 15lb quite comfortably.
Hey rod I need some help catching some salmon on the Vedder river whats some me good baits
I got a few dozen episodes and tutorials on here, make sure you watch them all… everything I’d tell you is already there.
@@FishingwithRod thanks man
Will the g loomis imx pro 9’0 medium fast 8-12 lb enough for fishing in vedder? Haven’t tried fishing for salmon so don’t have any idea whatsoever. Tho I found a good deal for the specific rod. Just hesitant if it would be enough 😅
That is a good rod for coho salmon, and should be able to handle chinook salmon up to a certain size as well (I'd say around 15lb).
I gotta O'l fifty dollar eagle clasy. 8-12p line. Had it for about 10 years. Nothing has been close to matching it'. I gotta Bobbin rod. I don't prefer it but it a lamaglass ten and half ft. But it just the preference of the person fishing. I have short arms. But prefer the longer poles. But I really can't see spending the money anymore because fishing is going down the crapper in Washington state. There's things I do Now I didn't before. In results I get more fish.
Hello. Tell me please, do you have a store where I can buy these spinning rods? Or if possible, tell me where I can buy such spinning rods? Thank you.
I don’t have a store. I am a Shimano rep. If you are in the Lower Mainland/Vancouver, you should be able to get any of these at a Shimano dealer (Fred’s Custom Tackle). Let me know where you’re located and I can direct you to where.
@@FishingwithRod unfortunately i am not from BS. i am from alberta😔 if i make an order, can you ship to me in alberta, is that possible?
@@ЗазаХаребашвили Get it from shopfreds.ca
@@FishingwithRod thank you so much
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Dude! ... Rod you're a sweet guy ... That said
I have a $38.00 Abu Garcia rod and real combo ... It fishes just fine ... If I wanna bobber dog or twitch or trolling... It does it all and it fills my freezer 💯
Do not let content creators convince you that you have to spend $100 + for a rod and real .. thats fucktarded! 💯
You can spend $50.00 and be on the water fishing and catching fish. All you need is a spin cast in a 3500 series and a medium/ heavy rod.
A couple of blue foxes some jigs and a couple of bobbers for up river that way you can bobber dog jigs if you want or some soft beads or traditional corkie's 💯
Don't over think this shit kids its not rocket science 💯💞😘
You can use whatever you want to catch them, I think I even mentioned that in the video. You’re simply paying for luxury, you do get what you pay for and I’m not here to convince that you have to spend a certain amount to catch fish.
On a side note, please stop calling Fall Chinook "Springers". While both are King Salmon, Springers are very different having genetic seperation. Please educate yourself. Springers deserve respect for how different they are. Your UA-cam channel is in part to teach new Fishman. Thank you!
You just can’t stop commenting on that eh lol… That’s just a slang which BCers have adopted. We just somehow refer all chinook salmon as springs.
50 seconds in. I'm gonna save everyone's time. IF you are a NEW angler, buy an UGLYSTIK.
Reasons:
1- 7 year warranty
2- Good price
3- New anglers will be hard on their gear- this can handle it (ITS DURABLE AS HELL)
You are welcome