What Microsoft doesn’t want you to know about Microsoft Office
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Stop paying for Microsoft Office every year! Microsoft has an option that allows you to buy office if you really want it and there are a bunch of options out there that you should be looking at instead!
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For all those saying Office has OneDrive cloud storage: That is NOT the point of the video. It's about showing alternative productivity suits as NOT everyone has a need for cloud storage, but everyone HAS a need to create docs.
It's like saying the reason to buy one cell phone over another is that the one gives you a free case. That may be exciting for some, but for most people they just want to know which phone is better and not which one comes with whatever add-ons. That is very secondary.
oops yeah i didn't read before writing my comment, yeah, the cloud storage is the main reason for my subscription Hehe... your right, if you're not using Office as a power user then the free options are very fine to use.
Still, this doesn't give you the right to delete people's comments (like you deleted mine)! If you don't agree with someone's opinion, comment on it, but don't just delete it because their views are different.
@@unimatrix1 dude UA-cam has a comment bug. I certainly don't delete people's comment that I don't agree with who are civil. You can see my Twitter where I have a screen recording showing this bug
@@unimatrix1 He telling the truth. It happen to me too. It seemed like that, isn't him.
Whilst I agree with your main point 1) your example is pretty poor since what possible need would someone have for a phone case without the phone. 2) I believe you should of at least briefly mentioned and addressed Onedrive in the video. I confident that a high % of people (non-business) pay the MS Office tax for this very reason, I know I do. The Office suite is a side benefit to the main benefit - 1TB storage.
I remember a time when you brought a computer these things came already installed
haha yeah. You still paid for them and the OEM version meant that it lived and died with your computer ie not transferable to a new computer.
I remember a time when people used to buy a computer rather than bring one.
Until Greed stepped in hey
Never happened with office. It happened with works and maybe just word.
I hear you,
I just bought a new HP laptop for over $1000 and I'm still unable to send a word document as an email. I'm so frustrated 😖
"You will own nothing and you will be happy." - Real life James Bond villain.
*Cue the Bond memes*
Eat the bugs.
Give up your job and everything you own. You don't need them anymore, right?
Klaus Schwab ... Nice to see somebody awake in here ⏰ :) Bill's foundation is in his club.
Seriously scary quote.
Im still using Office 2007 that I bought direct from Microsoft many years ago for around £20. Still works perfectly fine. Only downside is I now have to go hunting for it if I should loose my copy and need to redownload it.
But it still does everything I need it to do :)
Me too. I love the Office button. Only downside, no help available. Have to Google.
Same here, using 2010 with family license. Would purchase 2021, but it allows installation to one computer only, which might have been OK in 1997, but nowadays it is common to have more than one computer for a family. Libre/OO is no option because of a need for scripting compatibility.
libre office ;p
About the same here! Still using Office 2003! I never could be used to the switch to change the appearance with Office 2007 :-) If I will switch, I would give Libre Office a change (not sure Excel Macro's will run on it)
On my old XP computer it is still Office XP Pro .. works fine for Word and Excel .. Only downside to an older version is if you use Outlook for your emails ... They change the types of security needed from time to time and sometimes, the older version of Outlook will not work for all email providers.
Been a Star/Open/Libre Office user since the turn of the millennium. Never had a problem with it. Formatting errors from MS docs are very rare and have got rarer with each edition.
Libre Office is far better than any other office suites available in the market.
@@aravindsarkar1255 I wouldn't say it's far better than MS Office but with 99% of the features and 100% price discount it is hard to fathom MS's continued dominance.
I'm still using Office 2000, my mother bought it back in the day and it came on 2 CDs....one contains everything, except publisher, which is on the 2nd. For 22 year old software it still works great for all I want to do, I only really use Word and Excel, and they do everything I need. On Excel, I can format the cells and write quite complicated formulas, maybe by today's standards they're basic but it's enough for me. Example, one I often use is to keep a running tally and it might go something like this; =IF(C166>0,D165-C166,"0") this one is taking away from the line above to give the tally, while formatted cells below display "0".
This is nice that you point out the options for people so they can make an informed decision. The reason I choose to use the paid version is that the online ones are lite (stripped down as you say) and I need some of the features that only come with the paid version.
perfect - that makes complete sense. We each need to make a decision that works for us as there is no global right or wrong.
Appreciate you hanging out here!
@@LironSegev You arguments in the video are incomplete and grossly underestimated in favor of the free versions. At points in my working life (going back to the 90s) I've rotated between OpenOffice, Libreoffice, and WPS and reverted to Ms Office due to document compatibility issues and breaking of formated layouts etc. As a person who has clients in corporate companies It can get quick embarrassing if not frustrating.
Actually, I don't have an argument in favor of the free version - I am showing that you have options. The free suits had serious compatibility issues back in the day, but this has become less of an issue with the newer versions.
Many of us use these free suits and communicate with clients and companies who use Office without any issues in 95% of the time.
If you are in the graphic design industry or mockups or require absolute precision in images and formatting, then just use Office.
Good luck
@@Sobbayi
I share in the embarrassment/frustration. But I look at it in a way that "I hope people would switch to the free suites already."
Open Document Format (odt, ods, odp, etc) hopefully becomes the standard, not Microsoft's proprietary formats (docx, xlxs, etc).
HM < I need some of the features that only come with the paid version.> Which features..
I’ve been using the free alternatives on Windows/Linux/Mac since the earliest versions of Star Office which has since morphed and forked into Libre and Open Office. Generally I have found the free apps much better and few compatibility problems. Thanks for the tip on the fonts.
Thanks for sharing and hanging out here!
I prefer libre, been using for many years. I think it far superior to Office
@@driedbrainfreeze2149 In what ways? I am so used to everything in the Microsoft apps - I know where everything is; I am used to the ribbon, etc.
There are some powerful functions like the Dynamic Array functions (which are awesome), which I haven’t seen in the free alternatives.
BTW, I also refuse to pay for the subscription service. But I am currently using the Online versions. They are a bit stripped down, but can still do 90% of what the desktop app can do (mainly doesn’t have Power Query and Power Pivot) - and even has some features which the desktop versions do not have.
@@JJ_TheGreat have used Linux for many years so when faced with returning to Windows Libre followed. I use several different file conversions and Libre makes it a one click issue. And I'm just used to it.
@@driedbrainfreeze2149 Gotcha. That makes sense!
I personally use WPS Office and I can guarantee that whatever you mentioned is 100% true! The best part was you busting the myths... Myth Busting Liron!
😂 Gotta do what you gotta do
May i ask you if you know how to type math formulas in an easy way with wps? It does not automatically write fractions or powers. Also i'm not able to write greek letters with just the backslash like \gamma would not translate into the actual greek letter gamma
Note: i'm running Ubuntu 20.04 and i also have libreoffice, however math formulas are not compatibles with ms office in general
@@giovannigiordano366 Are you asking this for Excel, PowerPoint or Word?
@@cenevspeed_CARS All of them, in particular power point. I need to build reports for my labs but it's taking ages cause open office is not compatible with Ms office when using formulas, and wps has no kind of automation or shortcut (as far as i know at least). Any help is really appreciated and would save me days of work. Thank you for your answer btw
We heavily use VBA and excel macros and as long as the libreoffice doesn't fully support them, we can't just use libreoffice or any open source alternative.
I use softmaker office. reasonably priced, no need to update yearly ore ever if you don't want to. Opens and saves Microsoft files no problem.
Softmaker Office is just great.
Those software publishers that came up with the annual fee business model actually did me a favor, as it got me to search out one-time paid apps that were superior, at least for my needs, than what Adobe Acrobat and Microsoft Publisher offered with their fee-based apps.
All I learned from my search is that there is no alternative to Word.
2 issues: 1.)if you use office online you cant use it when your offline
2.) MS office has some cool features like powerquery which is a feature since office 2016 which is not availble in libre office etc
What is powerquery
@@HMMELD Power Query is for data analysis and automation. Its an addon since Office 2016. Check out some videos on the same.
Thanks for showing the options. Suggestions to others is try the free version before spending their money. I lost the use of my older version of Office when I went to a new computer. Been using the online version, but it feels a little clunky compared to the computer based version. Will try Libre Office before I subscribe or purchase the new Microsoft version. - Thanks again.
I have managed to install Office 2000 on Windows 10. It did throw up some errors, but I was able to bypass them, and word and excel did at least seem to load ok, so not sure what the errors would affect?
I pay for the annual subscription. Some of my considerations included:
1) Features - I need some of the paid-only features
2) OneDrive - Being able to access documents from my various devices (laptop, desktop, and phone) is immensely beneficial
3) Compatability - I can't open Microsoft Office files with freeware alternatives
4) Continual updates - I'm not stuck with the same version
5) Value - I feel the value I get is worth the price paid
I've been using OfficeSuite on Android and PC for 5 so years. No problems opening non-main stream files. I love it.
I have been using Libre Office for years, never had a problem, updates properly and works like a charm, and NO ADS EVER.
Btw compatibility issues are represented in the different MS Office versions as well. I’m working at a book company as an IT guy. We have a lot of problems because of colleges using different types of MS Office. The only thing that makes harder to change that people have habits and they really not like if they have to learn new things especially if they developed their workflow in a few years.
The fact that windows users still have to pay for office suite applications is mind blowing… Mac users have all this bundled in for free.
I have had copies of Microsoft Office since it came out. I now have it on 3 desktop computers. Yesterday I wrote a DRAFT Memo. Went to access it today - got a message from Microsoft that I must copy it to OneDrive + now my Window version no longer lists that I have Excel, Word, etc.
I have been retired for 20 years, now 70 years old, I do not need to have my files on OneDrive so I can access them from any location. I stay home.
AND I was never asked if I wanted to switch to OneDrive - Microsoft switched me.
FYI having cloud storage is not a security for your files. Because I have all of my documentation backed up off line as well as on line and I study the damages of ransom ware and other viruses so that I can remove or rescue clients computers, I have a computer linked to both drop box, one drive and google drive. I released a ransom virus on the computer and it not only encrypted all the files on the computer it wiped out all of the files on the cloud drives because they were connected. For me it was not a problem because I have several computers that I keep off line that have duplicate files, I also have every file duplicated in triplicate off line. Instead of paying a criminal $1000.00 after studying how the virus worked, I wiped the computer and the cloud drives, reloaded the clone and the computer was right back running. Cloud drives as long as they are connected to your computer the data is not secure.
Excel formulas differ in higher functions.. H-lookup validate in microsoft has an operator of ‘ true or false ‘, in open office the operator is 0 or 1. Small differences in higher functions.. basically still works.
Haven't used office for over 5 years
The reasons I still choose to pay annually for office 365: I have multiple devices, 2 desktop, 2 laptop and some mobile devices. I don't have to worry about my files sync between those devices as 1TB OneDrive does it for me. Plus I have 5 family members and all of them using same office 365 subscription as well. Economically, the subscription model is quite cheap for me. And don't forget I live in a country where USD 100 considered to be expensive (based on income) compared to one who live in USA or Europe.
If ur a business u can’t use free versions - also BUYING FOR A ONE OFF FEE COST 400
Home and student also can’t be used in business environment
Office web apps also not useful to business - so remember to make people aware ur referring to home use
Office at 10.50 a month for a business user along with mail teams and share point / one drive is great offer
When MS tried to charge me for a very old MS office install decades ago I uninstalled it and went to Open Office. I've never looked back. It's true that MS office is a little different, but for all intents and purposes Open Office does everything I could ever want and more, and of course I've been running it on windows ever since windows xp.
I pay $35/month for full-blown Office 365 (all the apps). It gives me 5 completely legit separate installs. This is a far better way for me to have Office than any other option (including past options where you paid $300-$500 each depending on the number of apps you get. And since I work from home for my company, and use my own computer to do it, that cost is tax deductible. This subscription also gives me full upgrades at no additional costs every time they are released.
The installs are still only virtual running of the programs. If you think not, disconnect from the Internet, restart your computer and try running the programs again.
How do you get that price?
This a great video for those looking to switch off subscriptions, but if you’re really looking to get office suite products, then please look into just buying full versions of older MS products and then looking up videos that show you how to activate and install them. Those products keys are much cheaper than doing it this way. Either way, helpful video to help people turn in the right direction!
Libre is ok, but it looks like it's always 10 years behind the real Office.
Right 👍
Nobody talks about OnlyOffice. It has full compatibility with documents, plus it's free, multiplatform and does not feature ads
I started paying for it when Google discontinued the unlimited photo storage in Drive. I pay more or less the same amount Google charges for storage for 1 TB of OneDrive storage, it's fully compatible with all my devices unlike Google which really lacks apps on Windows, so it's really the best option for me to keep everything backed-up and the Office apps/programs are pretty much bonus at this point.
I just stopped using my MS Office 2007
I bought in 2008 :) Got my money out of that purchase... now retired, I don't produce work documents anymore but bust a lot of numbers using google sheets and all my excel files have opened and worked fine... People, there are OPTIONSs and as the creator noted, if you're not share files - it's probably not an issue any differences that may exist... Thanks for the video sir :)
Compatibility is the opposite of what most people think - I have managed to recover corrupt MSOffice files that MSOffice could no longer open - in LibreOffice then resave and Open in MSOffice ... and I have opened very old Microsoft format documents from old MS products that Office no longer opens, in LibreOffice ...
Livre office works just fine. Used it for like 7 years without issues. I never had any ads on it. Now I use office but only for the cloud
I own (& don't use much, don't know how to) Office 13. Adobe started the subscription based option then switched to. If you need or want the updates every year or in between...
If there's something that is truly helpful, its someone that knows computers and software that can clearly explain to a "surface user" like me.
I used your MS tips on stopping misc apps, privacy etc.
Great help, subscribed.
Another great 👍 video man. I keep paying for office 365 and was aware of Open Office and Libre Office but figured they did not have all the features of MS Office. Also I am a OneNote Guy too. This has given me something to consider.
Lost my owned Office Suite when I lost my hard drive. So I put on Libre Office. Been using it for years and its free. I absoultely refused to lease software from anyone
You should not save files as doc/docx format until it is absolute must be. Why you can ask? MS don't care about proper compatibility with open formats it even warns user when they open it. This is why we should use as much as we can open format so they implement it correctly. We need to remember that with open format we will always have software that can open it after years and corporations can abandon their proprietary format or even worse move to the next format and charge you to open previous one
For normal user, no problem. They can go for others alternatives suites. But for power users, it's still difficult... Vba macro, power query, etc...
You’re not paying for office you’re paying for the cloud storage. 69.99 is still one of the cheapest amounts for 1 TB of cloud storage, 99.99 get you 6 TB of cloud storage per year.
that is not an argument if you don't need the cloud storage. See my pinned comment
Set up your own NAS and you have your own cloud for the cost your paying for Microsoft cloud for a year or two and your NAS will last you much longer in the long run.
I’ve never paid Microsoft for anything. I use google’s stuff for free
Google's suite is great for basic use, but MS word is absolutely loaded with functionality and tools that are extremely helpful and productive if you're in a situation that demands them.
For better interface and compatibility I am using only office. There it is
Been using Libra on all 3 operating systems for years now, can confirm everything in the video. Also Thunderbird for email.
Bless you by guiding people for easy route in life. Subbed bro
The only reason Microsoft pushes the 365 product is profit; they don't care about you and they aren't your friend. And the folks that used to sell you a security suite for $40 to $50 are now using the same subscription model, and for the same reason. Sure, some people like to rent stuff rather than own it, so I have no problem with companies offering the option. I do have a major problem with companies that eliminate the own it option however.
I've been using OO since I found out it's basically a reverse-engineered version of O-97 and I have no need for anything else. And, ITS PORTABLE!!
I never pay for MS office. When I bought my first laptop I'm not very techy and didn't realized that the store I bought my laptop from is using pirated windows & office. Then I switched to linux for about 2 years until I need an app that only available for windows and mac for my work. So I buy a PC and Windows, for office suite I just use google docs and everything works just as it needed to for free.
just use libre or free office it's also a nice change from Office it looks and runs smoother.
Super monster thanks for your video. I have been doing MS 2007 for years. It's still the best compatibility for publishing Amazon Books, so they say. But, some day in the future when the inevitable happens and it's time to install on a new computer IF it fails I'll have your alternatives. Got the Libre url stashed in Pocket. I had no idea about how compatible these programs were. Out of sight out of mind. Thank you for bringing it to the front brain LS. UPVOTED and SUBSCRIBED!
I bought the one time suite and when I went to download they made it NEARLY impossible without signing up for 360. I don’t even remember how I did it now. It cost me two days of frustration 🙄🙄🙄
That's why I'm here, I've had it with what they do; paying for inconvenience, frustration, etc., I'm done.
Office 2000 Pro still works well for my private home use, even with Windows 10 on my latest laptop.
I personally prefer libre office & WPS, then open office I woul think
Thank you for the informative video. It clears up my confusion and I learned something new here!
I purchased office in 1998 for PC, and again in 2008 for Mac. I still use it, and I will never pay a subscription for software. Ludicrous.
Me, getting Office home for free with my Laptop
“I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you”
I still use MS Excel 2003, because features I need, have vanished in subsequent versions.
If you speak about the personal use of office for.your daily chores, free apps are Ok, but no serious company uses free suites. Sharepoint, teams, azure, intune are the important part of the 365 environment
it really depends on the company's requirements. There are so many options today that I certainly didn't have growing up when it was either Microsoft of Apple and Apple was way too expensive so we defaulted to Microsoft. Today the mindset has shifted from automatically going Windows and Office to using Linux Desktop and free Office suit with Discord/ Slack and G Suit. Try investing into the startup companies today and its fascinating how everything is not what you expect.
No, that's just the aspect of their intelligence attack that pertains to yuppies and the institutionally entrenched. It's like putting stock into a failing or malicious company. You're going to get what you've paid for.
I am running Windows 11, Libre works very well.
Office one time purchase would be interesting if they hadn't just taken out outlook.
I have used Libre Office for quite awhile now.
What I DON'T like is how Calc handles charts.
I have office 4.2 with w3.11 on dosbox, running with android 4.1 phone. Much better than the new versions.
At least Microsoft gives these options. WIsh adobe had something like this for its full fledged apps. even a one time payment would be acceptable,
I am an author and have been using Libre office for about 5 years now. I can't think of any reason I would ever go back to Microsoft Office.
Do you have ever face any issues in using libre office? Because i want to switch to that
@@thatguynamedzag I really can't think of any that I've run up against. I use LibreWriter as my main writing software and I use LibreCalc as my spreadsheet. Been using both of these for over five years now and can't see any reason to change. Now, I don't know what kind of use you need it for. I use it for writing my novels. Nothing else. I don't put tables or photos in my books, but I don't see that would be a problem. It will save all files in MS Office compatible formats, so of you need to send a file to someone that uses MS Office it shouldn't be a problem.
Best thing is, it's free so you can try it out and see if it's for you. Take care.
@@davecasey4341 thank you for the detailed explanation! Will definitely try it out!
Liron - why don't you do a PDF editor video for us. I often have the need to edit PDF files- a real pain.
I was using professional office for a while but everytime I reformated my computer I lost a use, so I tried buying the $160 lifetime 2021 office version, but it wouldnt let me download, and microsoft's customer support is so terrible I eventually had refund, now I am just sticking with open office, while it isn't as nice, it is free
Upnotes is the program I decided to use instead of microsofts note taking app, it's not nearly as nice but for $1 a month to sync between phone and computer, I am happy
You are an angel in disguise. You must be for making such videos.
Great video Liron! For PDFs, what's the best free alternative to Adobe Acrobat?
I'm an OpenOffice man myself
Don't forget, teachers and students can get Office for Education for free with a valid email.
Some time ago I got Softmaker Office 2019 for free and I'm still using it. I'm pretty happy that most of the (free) alternatives to the Microsoft Office suite are almost or actually no downgrade for casual users. And my Softmaker suit and its files also of course are working perfectly fine with the OneDrive storage of Microsoft.
I found Libre to be quite the downgrade.
You forgot to mention the most problematic compatibility issue of LibreOffice: Excel macros ... Excel macros don't work very well on LibreOffice. In any case, if macros are not important, then LibreOffice is certainly the way to go, it's free and works VERY well
most people don't use macros let alone know how to write a VBA script. Just like most people don't use 70% of the functions that Office which is why I said for your basic day-to-day productivity suite.
You are AWSOME, thank you for sharing!
I hate that they act like they are Netflix. Office did not need to be a subscription.
2:40 People get angry why there are free options but Microsoft wants to rent out their Office with constant fees. Thats why there are hackers trying to turn MS office into a user-friendly software.
yeah uhhh...they don't care if we know. They make no secret that you can still buy it.
I was bothered by the fact that they won't maintain it on anything more than 3 os releases old...I don't upgrade to newest mac OS until I'm forced to, by something more critical than MS office.
Try it on the Chrome operating system , think you may find the ads .
You are the best... Great work.... carry on, my new friend...👌👌👌👌
Thank you so much 😀
@@LironSegev You are very welcome...
You shouldn't buy the full Office Pro either, but only a license, which only costs about €20 in total, at least in Europe, at least if you are smart !!
Wps is useless. It let's you edit documents, then when you want to save or send it asks for payment.
Thank you pirate Bay.
For all others I choose open source
Libre office is underrated.
I pay the monthly description because I wanted the storage what makes Microsoft office three for me because I pay for the one Terabytes cloud storage
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us! Since I am single, I'm switching to these free apps asap. Do you know of any free adobe PRO options?
"Office has OneDrive" -- literally the first thing I disable, and Microsoft isn't making it easy to do so.
Used Libre Office and Open Office for years, they do everything a little worse too a lot worse in some cases. So I decided to finally ditch it and got cheap MS Office licenses for all my machines, couldn’t be happier. Anyone that says it’s the same for free is lying
Thank you so much for the video!
Is there any trustworthy website to get Office 2021 for cheap?
BNH Software is a great web.
I love their customer support, Hope this information will help you.
One thing worth remembering is that OpenOffice is built on the source code from Star Office which started development in 1985. Microsoft Office began development in 1988. So in terms of lineage OpenOffice is older than MS office.
boom!
And it’s been discontinued for years.
libreoffice is the modern updated version of openoffice.
@@FlyboyHelosim OpenOffice had/has a nasty bug. When encountered, it wipes out all of one's work. After experiencing that a few times and seeing it wasn't addressed in years, I switched over to LibreOffice permanently. The vast majority of people use a small percent of features in productivity software. Programmers typically create what they themselves think is neat to code. So, more useless added features aren't needed but bug fix releases are important.
I thought hardly anyone used OpenOffice any more after it was forked to LibreOffice when Oracle was going to close source OO.
I miss when i was allowed to own things instead of renting, And i don't need a new version of everything every year. I been using WPS to write my books, even if it is owned by china but i almost never need a cloud. or collaborative sharing.
I bough Office in 2010 on DVD back then. It still works fine. No intention of paying MS anymore money.
Supposedly this month MS is going to stop security updates and so forth for 2010
Regarding Microsoft Office One Time Fee: Every time there is an upgrade, you'll have to pay - that's what is mentioned on the website. "Office 2021 is a one-time purchase that comes with classic apps like Word, Excel, and PowerPoint for PC or Mac, and does not include any of the services that come with a Microsoft 365 subscription. One-time purchases don’t have an upgrade option, which means if you plan to upgrade to the next major release, you'll have to buy it at full price."
you will not use what upgrade give you, the mjority of office users, use only 20 % of office power . so you can run with office 2013 even now, without any probleme
Indeed, but since 2007 did Microsoft make any revolutionary upgrade to the Word?
@@JG27Korny Oh... at least for 2013, it had a big upgrade, appearance and some formatting improvement
Remember you may need security update plus the office 365 iclides 1 TB Onedrive, I subscribe because of it
@@IwanTamimi updates and upgrades are 2 different things.
For example, even if your Windows 10 computer can not UPGRADE to Windows 11 because of compatibility issues, does not mean you can't continue to get Windows 10 UPDATES.
I'm still using Windows 7 with Libre Office. I've been using it for years, never a problem - perfect.
Terrible and spectacularly insecure - I truly hope ur not using for a business -
@@Redballoon99 Can you provide source? I'm only seeing one vulnerability that happened this year.
@@fogdragon23 any and every free license is not secure. should never be used for business - the only way to protect a business environment is with security tools that COST so if your getting Office free then your not paying for security. Windows 7 is also no longer support by microsoft uless you BUY the 2020 Extended Security Update, for 50 euro, and the 2021 for 100 euro and the 2022 for 200 euro. you can't just get the latest you have to buy all three and every yr it will double in price. WHY - because you shouldn't be using windows 7 in the first place
@@Redballoon99 can you really blame them when newer versions of windows come with a lot of bloatware
@@Redballoon99 🤦♂
I've been using OpenOffice on PC for 15 so years. No problems opening non-main stream files, no adds, no bugging to upgrade to pay version. I love it.
I been using OpenOffice too with no problems at all. Same experience - no bugging me for up-dates or up-grades. Still in the exact same format and screen all this time. Spell-check is weak so I go elsewhere for that. Been thru multiple computers thanks to Micro-POS crashing them or otherwise rendering them useless. I just pull OO off the net and there it is - exactly the same as before.
I can only say bravo! I was a little tired of finding irrelevant content regarding ways to operate with Excell on Mac, and this video was so enlightening! Short, straight to the point, while also sharing a lot of actually practical information. Thank you very much for this. Have a nice day 🙌🏻
Been using WPS for a few years now. It does everything I need, for free. Never had any problems. Your videos rock!
Hey wise cat! Do you know how to type math formulas in an easy way with wps? Like i would like fractions and powers to be automatic, and the ability to write greek letters with the backslash i.e. \gamma should be the greek letter gamma
Privacy is important.
That's why I stopped using WPS Office.
@@srikrishna2561 This is the 2nd time you say this. Can you explain?
Me too. I have it on my Android tablet. Admittedly, the Android version is a bit tricky, compared to to MS Office, but that may just be the nature of Android programs. I haven't tried the Windows version, yet, because I'm still using Office 2010.
@@antoniog9814 i looked it up on wiki
It's propriety (not open source) and it's from China (Kingsoft)
I've used LibreOffice an Linux and Windows for years. I can transfer files back and forth between work & home (but nothing with company confidential information) with, as you said, only some minor formatting problems. After a while, I figured out what causes this and can generally avoid it. Advanced Excel formulas are a bit more difficult at times, especially if they get data from SQL server because I can't access that data at home.
What did you identify as the typical causes of the formatting problems? I've tried using both LibreOffice and OpenOffice in the past, but eventually stopped using both as anything I did with them was practically unusable with MS Office - the formatting was so broken I basically had to start from scratch. If it was just for my own purposes it wouldn't matter, but almost everything I need office suite for is either for academic or employment purposes, so any document that's broken when opened in MS Office is a non-starter. If there's a way to avoid this, or at very least make it quick/easy to resolve, I would dearly love to know about it!
@@lachlanbell8390 I don't entirely remember. As best as I recall, I didn't use any advanced formatting. And I didn't save as .doc or .docx, but IIIRC one of the xml formats. I mainly used it for 3 or 4 page "how to" type things.
It's basically unusable where accurate formatting is crucial.
@@MJ-uk6lu Hum, I kind of understand. In such a case, I would likely use something based on TeX, like LaTeX or MiKTeX or TeXstudio (and are free on Windows, MacOS, and Linux). I avoid M$ software because M$ can, and has, changed things in the past which messes up things.
You totally forgot to say something about formulas and VBA capabilities of Excel. I worked in small companies up to enterprises since the birth of Excel and VB, and I have to say that in the last 15 years I did not see any serious Excel worksheet without moderate to heavy use of formulas and frequently also VB custom functions or macros. How do behave all the free office tools?
The amount of work some. People. Put in Excell, just hire a programmer
If i'm not wrong, there's a VBA support library for WPS office. I haven't test it out though
They run fine in libre, I run macros and vba functions on my excel files in libre office.
@@cubbucca And what about formulas? is there 100% compatibility?
Only Office use python for its macro language of choice... Far superior to VBA imho
Yes, I started using Open Office on Linux, but I've moved back onto Windows and the Open Office is EXACTLY THE SAME as it was on Linux. Don't pay for software when you don't need to.
I love the fact that its exactly the same no matter what.
I still use a retail version of office 2016 and I see no differences in usability whatsoever from the 365 version. Pretty happy with my old one.
only come may 2022, you won't be able to use this with an exchange online mailbox.
I still use the office 2007 line and never had an issue.
(The only thing is that i almost never use it so for someone that have very little need for it just get an old one and it will works perfectly)
try using XLOOKUP in Off 2016-excel
Office 2016 has old bugs and security holes that you ought to update to Office 365's up-to-date bugs and security holes. Also the old software tends to lack the siphoning of your data back to the manufacturer.
@@AlexKarasev Nah, I'll be fine... I doubt Microsoft or anyone would be interested in whatever I type there, not even close of being an industrial secret of sorts.