I got a Navy 1941 vintage CMP round 3 service grade frankengun colt with Remington rand slide 1985 barrel and it’s gorgeous. Better condition than any I used when I was in the Army in the late 70’s early 80’s. Very, very happy with it.
I have a 1911 Springfield Armory date 1915 , all original parts. I shoot it about 4 times a year. I clean it every time I shoot it . I always break it down to a VERY basic level. I am a follower of the greatest philosopher of all time...detective Harry Callahan. my favorite quote of his , was and still is...."A man has got to know his limitations" that has been my Mantra for the last half century and so it will be.....especially with guns containing more than 30 parts.
Thanks for sharing. I carried an M1911 A1 aboard ship in the mid-1960s. We routinely carried them while on duty. My ship USS Brister DER 327, Destroyer Escort Radar picket was converted from DE to DER in the mid-1950s. At one point our homeport was Apra Harbor, Guam but was eventually changed to Pearl Harbor just before we received orders to Vietnam. In Vietnam we patrolled from the DMZ to Phu Quoc Island just south of Cambodia in the Gulf of Thailand.
Magazine: 19200 ASSY 5508894 MFR. 1M291 produced by Check-Mate Industries, Wyandanch New York. Checkmate produced USGI magazines marked 1M291 from 1974 thru the early 90s. The last of the govt. issued .45 mags.
That's why the 1911 is still as relevant and popular to this day. Sure, it's lower capacity and heavier than today's offerings, but nothing has a better feel and trigger.
With CMP, the only options that you get to choose from are the different grades of condition. Finding something specific like that, you'll have to look at what's available out there and research the serial numbers before you buy.
That is a very nice pistol. I got a nicely refinished service grade with a Colt frame and a Remington Rand slide. I am happy with it, but now I am kicking myself for not going with a field grade.
The yellow making is a rack number. How do I know? Same when I was in the Army. All guns have a rack number very visible so the armor can keep track of them easier.
Just got my CMP 45. It turns out to be from the Army Marksmanship program! It has a wilson match barrel, match adjustable trigger,extended slide stop and ambi extended safety with Novak sights and finger groove rubber grips! Remington Rand slide Ithaca frame. Also, every single spring is brand new along with the sear and disconnector !
@@HEBEsReviewshi brother i have a question.I come from india where 45 was banned for civilians till last year.Now a lot of clones are being produced in India and i didn't like any so i bought an ithaca.Now i had just heard about colt or Remington so how good is an ithaca?plus any problems and rectification that you would recommend/modifications
@bhupinderjeetsingh1153 No, there are no problems with them. Just make sure that the 1911's that you buy are made in 1925 or after. The 1911's prior to that were not heat treated and can't hold up to modern-day ammo. I personally wouldn't modify anything from this era because it would take away from it's value. The most I would do is a trigger job and replace the mainspring and recoil spring. Keep the old ones in a resealable plastic bag and label it.
@@HEBEsReviews Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my queries.Im no expert with guns so i always appreciate any information on the subject.Also i would like to ask should I get it reblued?as its made in 1945 the original blueing is rather beat down but i was told by a friend that its gonna devalue the gun.so should I get it reblued or not?also what other options do i have to keep the gun in original condition and also to make it shine?
@@bhupinderjeetsingh1153 Unfortunately, your friend is correct. If you choose to refinish it, the value will go down. If you never plan to part with it, then do with it as you wish. If you choose to keep it as is, just keep it oiled and away from moisture when you store it.
Did you put ALL parts minus the grips in the ultrasonic cleaner? Im wanting to clean my CMP 1911 in my VEVOR ultrasonic cleaner. 1945 Remington Rand frame, GI replacement colt slide. Rebuilt at Anniston Army Depot June 1973!
A great review, and a damn fine 1911A1. The US Navy pistols seemed to be the ones in the best condition and originally. The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) did a great job rating their grades. Definitely got lucky on that one, considering the mixmasters that I’ve been seeing coming out of the depot. Hopefully the CMP will have their 4th round soon?!
Thank you for the feedback! I'm glad you liked the review, I'll do some more as time permits. As far as CMP doing another run, I hope that they do! I know one thing is for sure, if anyone is considering a purchase, they better be quick! This last batch went very fast.
I called them last week and they said that they are currently still running the 3rd round indefinitely. I sent my packet of last Friday and should get there today. Now I wait.
@Enrico Mandragona Sadly, most of us who served looked at our weapons as "Standard Issued Equipment" and never realized the history of them or who else they may have been issued to. Like most things in the USMC, my rifles were well worn but serviceable. Back then, I looked at them and thought the Corps should have retired them long before they were issued to me. Now, I wish it was possible to have the chance to own them.
More researched information on this particular WW2 Ithaca 1911A1 Rack Number 68: Shipped on 03/03/44 to the Oakland Navy Yard. From there, the next entry of her whereabouts was in the Pacific onboard the USS LST340 on 09/07/44, just before the ship was reclassified as IX-196 and renamed USS Spark on 10/20/44.
I sent my paper work in for round 4. The past few years I've been buying m1garands with my extra money. I have 8 now so I'm going for a 1911. It's driving me crazy waiting on my email of call when my number comes up.
Congrats! Which grade did you choose? Be patient. Good things come to those who wait..... Sounds good anyway! Seriously, you will be overjoyed when you get to hold that piece of history in your own hands. Imagine the stories it would tell if it could?
Those are contract mags not original World War II issue mags. Original World War II issue mags will have a letter designation for the maker on the toe of the mag.
@@NorthwoodsShooter Hello, My sequence of events. 9/12/22 submitted. 10/3/22 received RGN 34042. 11/16/22 received notification call selected Service Grade (Service, Field, Rack choices) My FFL had it the next day.
There is no such thing as a "numbers matching" 1911 pistol or US service weapon, for that matter. US weapons usually have letter codes that indicate what manufacturer made a part on a particular firearm. So your 1911 may indeed be all Ithaca but definitely not "numbers match"
Thank you for the clarification on my comment. You are correct, and it was a Freudian slip. My day job is being a mechanic, and that is obviously a common term in our trade.
@TheMilsurpMan Thank you! It ain't easy being cheesy on camera! Thank God for editing..... This is a very new avenue for me, but I am enjoying it so far. The pistol is a gem and a great part of our history. I am a HUGE fan of the 1911 platform, and I convert as many non-believers as possible. 😁
A 'No Go' to clean with ultrasonic cleaner, always 'hand clean'.. I see you didn't even take down the firing pin, extractor, magazine ejection button and mainspring housing... there will be water inside from the ultrasonic cleaning so rust will build from the inside.. also not good for the finish of the gun, it is a way to agressive cleaning.. nice 1911A1 though..
First and foremost, the entire gun was completely disassembled, throughly cleaned, and dried & blown out with compressed air immediately after coming out of the tank. What would be the point of using a sonic cleaner if it wasn't fully disassembled? I can't show all that without getting a violation on here. The cleaners I use are made for firearms, not some random degreaser. I always follow up with a through hand cleaning / inspection afterward on any gun that goes through. Never a problem with the finishes, and very happy customers.
He keeps saying numbers matching /parts matching. Not sure he knows what he is talking about. That is definitely a ww2 Ithaca he said at the end of the video it's not a ww1 or ww2. I think he is off on just about everything he said. Edit: 1.26 mil is a 1943 production. Definitely has no idea what he is talking about
Well, apparently, you failed to read what I said when someone else brought that up in the comments. You can go look up our conversation about it. Yes, this video was unedited, and one of the very first I did. If you think you can do better, let's see yours? It is indeed a WWII Ithaca 1911 and was issued to the Navy. The owner was able to get the information on the pistol. Thanks for watching, and the constructive criticism.
I got a Navy 1941 vintage CMP round 3 service grade frankengun colt with Remington rand slide 1985 barrel and it’s gorgeous. Better condition than any I used when I was in the Army in the late 70’s early 80’s. Very, very happy with it.
Nice! I'm glad you were able to get one, and in good condition!
I have a 1911 Springfield Armory date 1915 , all original parts. I shoot it about 4 times a year. I clean it every time I shoot it . I always break it down to a VERY basic level. I am a follower of the greatest philosopher of all time...detective Harry Callahan. my favorite quote of his , was and still is...."A man has got to know his limitations" that has been my Mantra for the last half century and so it will be.....especially with guns containing more than 30 parts.
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Was on LST-1190 USS Boulder Colorado 1975-77. Only used a 1911 for Quarter Deck watches in Port. 🇺🇲👍
Thanks for sharing. I carried an M1911 A1 aboard ship in the mid-1960s. We routinely carried them while on duty. My ship USS Brister DER 327, Destroyer Escort Radar picket was converted from DE to DER in the mid-1950s. At one point our homeport was Apra Harbor, Guam but was eventually changed to Pearl Harbor just before we received orders to Vietnam. In Vietnam we patrolled from the DMZ to Phu Quoc Island just south of Cambodia in the Gulf of Thailand.
I'm happy that my review was able to bring back some hopefully good memories.
Magazine: 19200 ASSY 5508894 MFR. 1M291 produced by Check-Mate Industries, Wyandanch New York. Checkmate produced USGI magazines marked 1M291 from 1974 thru the early 90s. The last of the govt. issued .45 mags.
Hi I have the same pistol Serial number 12125** i am from South Africa , great gun wow, have it for the last 30 years.
That's why the 1911 is still as relevant and popular to this day. Sure, it's lower capacity and heavier than today's offerings, but nothing has a better feel and trigger.
My dad was on the battleship North Carolina in WWll. I'd love to find a WWll Navy issued 1911A1. Fantastic piece of history.
With CMP, the only options that you get to choose from are the different grades of condition. Finding something specific like that, you'll have to look at what's available out there and research the serial numbers before you buy.
I'd love to have one of these!
That is a very nice pistol. I got a nicely refinished service grade with a Colt frame and a Remington Rand slide. I am happy with it, but now I am kicking myself for not going with a field grade.
I received my service grade Remington Rand (slide and frame) rnd. 2 in May of ‘21
The yellow making is a rack number. How do I know? Same when I was in the Army. All guns have a rack number very visible so the armor can keep track of them easier.
A little schooling here. Springfield Armory gave a lot 1911’s to Ithaca. Ithaca put there name on it. Still a beauty
Just got my CMP 45. It turns out to be from the Army Marksmanship program! It has a wilson match barrel, match adjustable trigger,extended slide stop and ambi extended safety with Novak sights and finger groove rubber grips! Remington Rand slide Ithaca frame. Also, every single spring is brand new along with the sear and
disconnector !
That’s AWESOME! You’ve got yourself a true gem! I’d be proud to have something like that.
Now that is a nice score! I'd be excited about that gem as well.
Best handgun
Ithaca pistols are SOLID 1911s!! Period.❤❤❤❤❤
They certainly were back then, this one proved to be a real gem!
@@HEBEsReviewshi brother i have a question.I come from india where 45 was banned for civilians till last year.Now a lot of clones are being produced in India and i didn't like any so i bought an ithaca.Now i had just heard about colt or Remington so how good is an ithaca?plus any problems and rectification that you would recommend/modifications
@bhupinderjeetsingh1153 No, there are no problems with them. Just make sure that the 1911's that you buy are made in 1925 or after. The 1911's prior to that were not heat treated and can't hold up to modern-day ammo.
I personally wouldn't modify anything from this era because it would take away from it's value. The most I would do is a trigger job and replace the mainspring and recoil spring. Keep the old ones in a resealable plastic bag and label it.
@@HEBEsReviews Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my queries.Im no expert with guns so i always appreciate any information on the subject.Also i would like to ask should I get it reblued?as its made in 1945 the original blueing is rather beat down but i was told by a friend that its gonna devalue the gun.so should I get it reblued or not?also what other options do i have to keep the gun in original condition and also to make it shine?
@@bhupinderjeetsingh1153 Unfortunately, your friend is correct. If you choose to refinish it, the value will go down. If you never plan to part with it, then do with it as you wish.
If you choose to keep it as is, just keep it oiled and away from moisture when you store it.
Why does it seem that everyone but me has a scratch on the frame just under the slide release? Lol. Nice gun!
They call it the "Idiot Scratch" for a reason.... LOL!
@@HEBEsReviews Oh! Thanks.
Did you put ALL parts minus the grips in the ultrasonic cleaner? Im wanting to clean my CMP 1911 in my VEVOR ultrasonic cleaner. 1945 Remington Rand frame, GI replacement colt slide. Rebuilt at Anniston Army Depot June 1973!
Yes, everything minus the grips. Those I did by hand so that it wouldn't take off the markings.
On the one side it looks like a G8 or 68. On the other grip it is definitely a 6, so I'd go with a 68.
I’m voting for 68. I’ve got one from round 3 with same yellow spray paint that is labeled 86.
A great review, and a damn fine 1911A1. The US Navy pistols seemed to be the ones in the best condition and originally. The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) did a great job rating their grades. Definitely got lucky on that one, considering the mixmasters that I’ve been seeing coming out of the depot. Hopefully the CMP will have their 4th round soon?!
Thank you for the feedback! I'm glad you liked the review, I'll do some more as time permits. As far as CMP doing another run, I hope that they do! I know one thing is for sure, if anyone is considering a purchase, they better be quick! This last batch went very fast.
I called them last week and they said that they are currently still running the 3rd round indefinitely. I sent my packet of last Friday and should get there today. Now I wait.
I used to have one strapped to my hip!! Didn't know what I had lol.⚓
@Enrico Mandragona Sadly, most of us who served looked at our weapons as "Standard Issued Equipment" and never realized the history of them or who else they may have been issued to.
Like most things in the USMC, my rifles were well worn but serviceable. Back then, I looked at them and thought the Corps should have retired them long before they were issued to me. Now, I wish it was possible to have the chance to own them.
@@HEBEsReviews Hey thanks for your thoughts!!👍
More researched information on this particular WW2 Ithaca 1911A1 Rack Number 68:
Shipped on 03/03/44 to the Oakland Navy Yard.
From there, the next entry of her whereabouts was in the Pacific onboard the USS LST340 on 09/07/44, just before the ship was reclassified as IX-196 and renamed USS Spark on 10/20/44.
How did you search the history? I have a Colt with serial number dated 1941 from my dad.
@@johnicenhower4175 FOIA search with the U.S. Navy, as well as various records held in private hands.
That’s a really nice looking pistol.
I sent my paper work in for round 4. The past few years I've been buying m1garands with my extra money. I have 8 now so I'm going for a 1911. It's driving me crazy waiting on my email of call when my number comes up.
Congrats! Which grade did you choose?
Be patient. Good things come to those who wait..... Sounds good anyway!
Seriously, you will be overjoyed when you get to hold that piece of history in your own hands. Imagine the stories it would tell if it could?
@HEBEsGunsAmmoNGear I want a service grade, hope one is available when I get the call from cmp
I purchased 4 expert grades and 4 service grades. The service grades are excellent choice.
@@mikedurant6146 Wow! 4 of each grade? That's an impressive collection!!
@HEBEsGunsAmmoNGear I have my favorite, it's a service grade and I put a synthetic stock on it, shoots great and feels good.
Those are contract mags not original World War II issue mags. Original World War II issue mags will have a letter designation for the maker on the toe of the mag.
The magazine is a post WWII magazine. While the government didn’t buy any more pistols after WWII, they bought plenty of replacement magazines.
I just submitted my packet. Just curious, how long between submitted the packet to getting the lottery number to getting the gun? Thanks
Packet Sent: Sept 21, 2022
Packet arrived: Sept 23, 2022
RGN Assigned: 34730
Date Contacted: Dec. 18th, 2022
Grades Offered: Field, Rack, Range (selected Field)
Shipped: 12/31/2022
Received: 01/04/2023
Manufacture Received: Ithaca Frame & Slide
Model received: 1911A1
Serial Number: 12638XX
Perfect, thanks!
@@NorthwoodsShooter Hello, My sequence of events. 9/12/22 submitted. 10/3/22 received RGN 34042. 11/16/22 received notification call selected Service Grade (Service, Field, Rack choices) My FFL had it the next day.
@@dlbracer56That’s good timing! Well worth short wait. Much faster than the 1st & 2nd CMP 1911 rounds.
Mostly in such a great shape...
it's a 'No Go' to put in an ultrasonic cleaner... always 'hand clean'
Problem with the service grade is you take a real good chance of getting one that is too nice.
The grips look like G8 or 89 stamped with paint
How many iticas were made bloke
Right around 400,000
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You have to keep in mind these are parts guns. All matching numbers? Explain that to me please
Nice looking specimen. Too bad the CMP is just about gutted as far as surplus guns go.
There is no such thing as a "numbers matching" 1911 pistol or US service weapon, for that matter. US weapons usually have letter codes that indicate what manufacturer made a part on a particular firearm. So your 1911 may indeed be all Ithaca but definitely not "numbers match"
Thank you for the clarification on my comment. You are correct, and it was a Freudian slip. My day job is being a mechanic, and that is obviously a common term in our trade.
@HEBE15 it happens brother! Great video and beautiful pistol!
@TheMilsurpMan Thank you! It ain't easy being cheesy on camera! Thank God for editing..... This is a very new avenue for me, but I am enjoying it so far.
The pistol is a gem and a great part of our history. I am a HUGE fan of the 1911 platform, and I convert as many non-believers as possible. 😁
🏆🏁🏆🏁
Looks like it reads G8, to me…
How much you pay?
Details are on the CMP website. If you qualify, you can put in for one.
Don't modify your gun without some advice first. The less the better. This is a keeper not a shooter.
This will stay exactly the way it is. It's just through cleaning and oil in all the right places.
Contract mag
# 89
Too expensive, since my TAXES already paid for these pistols!
A 'No Go' to clean with ultrasonic cleaner, always 'hand clean'.. I see you didn't even take down the firing pin, extractor, magazine ejection button and mainspring housing... there will be water inside from the ultrasonic cleaning so rust will build from the inside.. also not good for the finish of the gun, it is a way to agressive cleaning.. nice 1911A1 though..
First and foremost, the entire gun was completely disassembled, throughly cleaned, and dried & blown out with compressed air immediately after coming out of the tank.
What would be the point of using a sonic cleaner if it wasn't fully disassembled? I can't show all that without getting a violation on here. The cleaners I use are made for firearms, not some random degreaser.
I always follow up with a through hand cleaning / inspection afterward on any gun that goes through. Never a problem with the finishes, and very happy customers.
Bloke why du u think 🤔 it was us nav bucko
That was what the research from the serial number told us.
@HEBE'S Guns, Ammo & Gear evidence proof ect bucko
He keeps saying numbers matching /parts matching. Not sure he knows what he is talking about. That is definitely a ww2 Ithaca he said at the end of the video it's not a ww1 or ww2. I think he is off on just about everything he said.
Edit: 1.26 mil is a 1943 production. Definitely has no idea what he is talking about
Well, apparently, you failed to read what I said when someone else brought that up in the comments. You can go look up our conversation about it.
Yes, this video was unedited, and one of the very first I did. If you think you can do better, let's see yours?
It is indeed a WWII Ithaca 1911 and was issued to the Navy. The owner was able to get the information on the pistol.
Thanks for watching, and the constructive criticism.