The Fender Player II Jaguar is STILL BULLSH*T
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Fender really has no clue what it is doing with the Jaguar, and I will not be heckled into submission by people who have no credibility.
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Honestly, there are countless versions of the Tele and Strat. Reissues with vintage appointments, standards with modern tuners, bridges etc. The Jazz and Jaguar simply don’t have the same popularity as their older siblings. Therefore less variations. The player II is a simpler version of a more complicated guitar. Regarding the bridge movement, this was originally done at the request of Johnny Marr (on his signature model) to get more sustain with smaller break angle. I guess they felt this would appeal to a broader array of players. Anyway, variety is the spice of life. I say own them all or as many as you can. I would but I play lefty. Fender has made countless mistakes since Leo and George started in the Late 40’s. Still may favorite brand though.
"You're too insignificant to have an opinion on this", what an elitist and stupid thing to say, Fender don't make money off the big celebrities they give guitars too for free, they make money off the thousands of "little guys" who are passionate about the instruments they sell. You're 100% in the right here, I love the jaguar too and think it's completely stupid what fender is doing
Me saying 4+4 =8 just doesn’t have the same weight to idiots who need perceived authorities to tell them what to think
In my opinion, what makes a Jaguar:
- 24” scale
- Long scale tremolo tailpiece
- Jag/JM (even mustang is acceptable) bridge
- Jaguar pickups (why would anyone change this?)
- Full Rhythm and Lead circuit
You could change literally everything else about the guitar except these things and it would still be a Jaguar, and they STILL managed to fuck that up.
Nobody is on anyone’s payroll- there are just MANY people out there who don’t realize that their thinking has been captured by marketing, and they get uncomfortable when this is pointed out
I can’t understand how your thoughts on the Jaguar are considered wrong- they seem blatantly obvious to me
fender please for dear god put the chrome back on the pick guard!!!! what tf is this bs. stop making the jaguar look like the jazz master and give it its chrome armour back.
I'm a little stunned that people are arguing with you on this. You're 1000% right on this. (Wrote this comment before the 9 minute mark 😂)
I agree it’s just cost cutting.
Personally I feel like putting this neck with the rosewood fingerboard and vintage tuners/proper logo onto an original Player series would be an awesome guitar. I like having a humbucker at a modified bridge, proper offset jangle from the tailpiece being further away, and I don't care for the rhythm circuits. With that being said, the pickups on this are a disgrace, it should still have a rhythm circuit and pickup selectors if it's gonna have single coils, the tailpiece is in the wrong position, and they shouldn't come with Mustang bridges stock. I have no idea what a "Player" series Fender Jag is at this point but it's a joke.
The only (kind of?) solution to this issue is to get a MIJ Fender Traditional II Jaguar. Even still, Fender USA currently produces ZERO actual Jaguars.
I've been contending that the Vintera II could've just been a slightly less rizzed up Johnny Marr Jaguar but Fender are lazy as fuck (note: changing some CAD files and doing some more R&D particularly)
That you got a ton of ad hominem about YOUR opinion is fucking sad, because as an offset dork of many years, I *legitimately cannot fault your take because it's objectively correct*
Only like the Strat in this series because it's the only one they kept OG. The rest belong in the paranormal series.
Im really rooting for Fender but wish they knew how badly it damages how the series is perceived for working musicians when you make a guitar with half its tools missing..
I just bought a classic vibe Jaguar. I didn't want the simplified version
I hear ya. How do you think left handed players feel? You should try to find a non Cobain Jaguar. Or a Mustang. Let me know how affordable they are.
With you all the way on this one.
Delonge is pronounced, “De Long”.
Fun rant, I don't even have a horse in this race. Lol
Hi Jake, im sorry that you receoived nasty comments from other people thas is really Bulls***, anyway getting back to the topic.... I think will be GREAT if you have the chance to try and play one of the new player II Jags (try it in a Guitar center maybe) so you can supply us more valuable feedback about it... last year I was very near to buy a player series I Jaguar.... I love the HS setup...at the end I got a Nashville Tele... im still looking to get a jaguar... thanks and regards bro.
1st video I have seen of yours. Agree with pretty much everything you said.. the era of quality affordable Fenders and Squiers ended with the vintage modified years ago. It’s all hit and miss now. They’re just re-hashing the same old shit now.
No it’s not for sale ha ha. I might sell it when I do a serious upgrade but till then … I do have a policy that nothing new comes in til something goes out (I break that rule all the time but I try ha ha)
I get the jag was designed for heavier strings, but 7s work for Billy Gibbons. I wouldn't say he has baby hands. Why work yourself harder for little tonal difference on other guitars? For bragging rights? Lol
I’m not sure this is some type of false thing but I think some of the design choices were inspired by the Johnny Marr jag, closer bridge, blade switch, it kept the high pass switch and added in series. Still different enough from every other fender model, because what makes a jag a jag is that filter switch not the rhythm circuit because the jazzmaster exists.
Link for used SCV 70S JAG?
Jake, you are significant. You play music out in the public, you teach music, you work at a music store, and you provide the best music and gear knowledge you can for many others in this world. Your life, and world, is music and your family. Thank you again for your honest opinions and all that you do for the music community. I am usually one of the first people to view and like your videos because I like your varied content and your honest opinions that you share with us. I have respect for all that you do. I don't have a lot of respect for most people in this world these days. You have earned my respect because of who you are, and the life values you uphold for yourself and others in this community.
I recently put a vintage 1962 -1964 Gibson 8.14K P-90 in the bridge position of a Starcaster strat. But it is still a three single coil pickup guitar. As I feel a Strat build should be for me.
Upgraded pots and 5-way switch. Neck and bridge are from a G.M. Fat Head SSS (Neck, Middle(RWRP)bridge) INVADER STYLE Cream Set that I got on Ebay. I moved the volume switch about 3/8" in the pickguard to put the P-90 in. I used 250K pots. Two different tone caps(.047, .022) and tones are wired in series so that you can use the lighter tone or the darker tone separately or both at the same time to add up to .069 tone cap value. And all three pickups have tone adjustment. Replaced the all-maple neck with a rosewood fretboard style from another Starcaster and used Fender locking tuners. This combo works well if anybody has the ambition to do a similar build.
I sincerely appreciate you and your kind words. They mean a lot to me!
Your mod project is super exciting. I bet it sounds great!
@@BigJakeMusic I went to premier guitar site in the DIY Mod garage and followed the shielding single coil pickups and the shield single coil pickup covers articles. Except where he put the shielding tape up inside the pickup cover, I put mine right on top of the pickup and put the tape over the end of the bobbin so it sticks right to the tape around the coil windings. This way the covers can be changed without more soldering. I shielded the cavities and the pickups with conductive adhesive copper tape. Quiet as a mouse until you put some gain into that P90. Then it is just power you hear and no 60 cycle hum. I put the gain I want into the amp with the volume on ten with the P90. Using a Peavey Envoy 110 Transtube model. Get that distortion and roll back the volume and it cleans up well. I am a beginner player but an experienced restorer/repairer/builder(assembler?). I really like this guitar. It does sound great. If I lived close, I would bring it to you to check out. Have an awesome day!
I totally agree
i have the stock 9s on a squier cv jag i recently bought, no problems whatsoever, other than that i agree
So what’s Vintage Modified compared to Classic Vibe? I have a Classic Vibe Jag and Jazzmaster but I don’t really like either one. I think I’m going to grab a Vintera.
I have a couple Clasic Vibes and a couple Vintage Modified. Granted mine are the older ones from 10+ years ago. In my experience the CV's are a little nicer and a little more refined (parts feel less cheap, a little nicer fretboard edges, etc.) I've made a couple upgrades to my VM's but my CV's have remained pretty much untouched. Both series are good, I love and regularly play my VM's but if I were presented with the same guitar from each line to try, it's likely I would pick the Classic Vibe.
Sell me your SCV 70s Jag if you don't like it 😊
Sell me your SCV 70s Jag if you don't like it.😊
Great video!
Another in a loooooooooong line of Jaguars for people who hate Jaguars…. Way to go Fender, keep on disappointing the Fans while bending over backwards to please the whiners!
Yeah, I'm definitely not on the payroll because I would probably lose my job if they asked my opinion on a lot of these changes they make.
You may not have to get vintage-style with the other models to get a similar basic model, but you do actually have to get something like a Vintera to get more accurate vintage specs on Strats and Teles [and probably Jazzmasters?] Some of those specs the average modern player might not WANT, such as the under-the-neck truss rod adjustment issue. The old style tuning pegs are maybe nicer, tho. If they only issued Vintera Jaguars [at reasonable prices] and they were more close to what is classically considered a Jaguar, you probably wouldn't be making a third vid right now. The two Squier models offered what you discussed, the one is closer to a Vintera already and the other is just a cheap guitar?
Yes, the strings may be the wrong weight, but Fender doesn't send out the right weight strings on the guitar or some instruction manual about any of this. Again, good thing I don't work for a company that expects you to understand their product when they don't EXPLAIN their product, but I don't use 11 or 12 strings, either.
I might switch to 10 but so far don't like 10 much what little I have used them. Again, lead guitar also not so much played the same as 1962 anymore, either, that Dick Dale might have shredded heavier ones but doubtful too many others.
Most guys swap out the bridge now, but you said the one model comes that way now already, but I think that was the Affinity? Not really a model that any semi-pros would bother with.
Most beginners won't know that they may have to get the nut filed to fit bigger strings, either. Most of them don't want to pay the GC guy to string the guitar and have never HEARD of set-up procedures. They get a geetaw in a box for X-mas and they plug it in and play it until something goes wrong if somebody is showing them what chords and things are. Again, not too many of these would go to Jaguar as their first choice, but if it's an Affinity for cheap, might be what they end up with. I don't know whom buy the Player version as their starter guitar or what they might expect because that's a pretty big price difference.
Waiting list is goin until November, so obviously people want them lol.