lia was always the scapegoat for itzy. people were shaming her looks, targeting her weight, vocals and dancing. she was always the member that got the most hate since debut. i’m staying neutral on her bullying scandal cause there’s no solid proof and i wouldn’t be surprised if the allegation is to simply bring her down. i just can’t understand why? lia improves every comeback, she tries her best to keep up and her unique voice adds colour to itzy, she definitely deserved to be in itzy. also chaeryeong is so pretty, like are people blind??? leave itzy alone
Best thing JYPE ever did to ensure Itzy’s success was teaching all of them English. Part of the reason I like them so much is because they put out content in English that I can enjoy more than watching Korean with subs. They also do interviews in English so are known by the wider western audience.
JYPE made Itzy to conquer the west. Most of them can English and one is fluent. Yes, they did taught them to speak English because they had the time to do so. They could had done with Twice but it's impossible because of there packed schedules and adding English lessons to their already exhausting schedules is a big no no.
@@nmixx.changeupletsgo Twice debuted in 2015 and during that time K-pop wasn't popular mainstream in the west. JYP made Twice to conquer the Japanese market by adding Japanese members and teaching the members to learn Japanese. It takes a long time to learn a new language especially if you are a beginner which all Twice members are mostly in thr beginning level. Also all of the members don't have enough confidence when speaking English in front of a camera.
@@noobleman2685 Twice wasn't really a group made to become global superstars. They were made only for Korea and Japan. But when they started gaining popularity in the west, JYP decided to expand them into the US market.
As regards to these bullying scandals, it really is a "he said she said" type of situation and I wouldn't put it past people to lie since a few other artists have been dragged through the mud until evidence comes out that shows that artist was actually a really good person. Now I can't say that for every artist, but I'm going to need real evidence to prove something is true, "innocent until proven guilty."
Really respect for the girls for always giving high quality work I used to think they don't get much hate until I started checking stuff about them... They always give their best regardless all the criticism they get and always show love to other idols.. Really respect their potential
Why do people blindly believe the accusations? A year and a half later, there is still no evidence of Lia being a bully. The scandal is just another excuse for netizens to hate on Lia and Itzy
The fact that TXT and Itzy both debuted in 2019 and they both have been not able to breath properly without getting attacked by everyone but itzy faced more difficulty as they are a female group but at the end both of them are successful enough to prove they are talented and loved by many
Tbh I never even heard of Lia or Hyunjin's scandal until you mentioned them and I only got into Itzy during their crazy in love period. LOCO just really touched me and it help brought me out of my unmotivated phase and see the world through rose coloured lenses again. Itzy will always hold a special place in my heart especially Yeji ♡ And Chaeryeong and Lia really shined in Checkmate and I hope everyone could enjoy their work like I did.
It’s just weird how bullying scandals play out in sk. There never seems to be proof on either side and no one is ever willing to take it to court. So atp, people can either believe lia is a bully or not, but it’s misinformation to claim it as fact. Like that comment in the video accused lia of school violence when the original accuser didn’t even include violence in her statement
@@BlueCinnamonRoll me as an army i would definitely say that is such a shame to see people like you that think that by bringing down other artists you’ll gain anything positive for the artists that you like, bruh you shouldn’t even call yourself an army if you are that toxic and negative.
i wish haters would just stop being haters for two second or forever i love itzy on matter what happens itzy has been rising stars since debut keep going itzy your fans love you so much.
Can we even call them kpop fan's how come wearing something from India is racist when probably thousands of Billions of children probably where this in Halloween and I don't see any parents complaining so why Do that twords an idol (also I think the people who claimed Lia bullied was actually the bully them sell being the fact that they know a lot about Bully and what Lia did and I'm pretty sure if you're a bully you wouldn't let them see you bully them)
Im not completley sure that Lia was a bully or not but its none of their business even if she was a bully people do change plus it's not fully confirmed that she really was a bully back then and for that it doesn't mean she can't be an Idol or have a good life. Haters also come up with the most simplest things to accuse them such as weight, appearance and how good they dance. Can they even be any better? Im literally sick of these people not minding their own business and discriminating Idols for their flaws...
@@heedeungie7 100% agree with this people shouldn't stick their noses into someones lives especially when that was in middle school and theres barely any real proof. People change alot so even if she was a bully (which i highly doubt) she would've changed when getting into idol life since theres so much responsibility and crazy work days
The hate toward Itzy is getting out of control. I know y’all are pressed because they’re 4th gen leaders and your faves can’t keep up, but seriously ? Be worthy instead of choosing the facility of hate on internet.
I will never forgive the people who ruined lia’s confidence. This girl looked so confident and happy about her idol life before they tried to bring her down
its ok those people who ruined lia‘s popularity doesnt even desevre a single attention, they are just jealous and got too bored of their sad life thats why they tried to ruin other people’s❤ (Lia is so unique and cute, no one can replace her
Honestly, i’m not a fan of KPOP thing but then i accidentally heard the WANNABE SONG from ITZY’ I was like Goshhh! I LOVE THIS ERA. So now, every time I listened to their music album it’s very inspiring and motivating me a lot. FOCUSED ON SELF LOVE ERA. ITZY is the best ever kpop group for me! ❤
People really need to stop hating on Itzy for no reason, to be completely honest I think that netizens are just jealous. The girls are really doing great, and I know that they will continue to make great comebacks
Why do I got a feeling that some of those b*llying controversies are just illustrated with one or two incidents? Like... A person is not a b*lly if they treated you badly or were an a**hole to you one or two times in a year. We have all been mean or mistreated someone during our teenage years, either on purpouse or not. Everybody is inmature at those ages, get off your high horse.
Lia has such a bright and caring personality that imagining her as a bully would mean that she's actually a Hanibal Lector level of sociopath, which is extremely unlikely to say the least. Funny how the people who accuse her of bulling are worse bullies themselves... Shame on anyone who tries to tare down another person's career out of jealousy or spite!
@@shravanipatade549 Nope there were not any witnesses and that is why the issue was dropped.. The dude who claimed Lia was mean to him, because he took a book she had and gave it back to the owner (who never actually asked him to do) before Lia was ready to give it back (she legit barrowed it), she got upset with him and addressed him about it. In fact when the girl who's book it was was asked about it, she said she had no issue with Lia and gave her the book to read, and has NO idea why the guy took it on her behalf. The police Investigation determined there was NO way to prove he spoke out to harm her career or not. THAT is all, they made no finding of fact on either side as to who said or did what. They never found her to be a bully or was there any documentation on the issue other than the statements made by the 3 involved individuals. SO YOU ARE JUST wrong.
@@hepteropterix Lia was cleared of all accusations. It was even covered on this channel about a week ago. I know you can't judge a book by it's cover, even Red Velvet's Irene had a bad day and snapped on one of her staff members, but that doesn't mean she's suddenly a horrible person as soon as the camera's are off. What I'm saying is that people should look more carefully into what we do know about a person, before they go pointing their fingers trying to shame someone. Don't bandwagon the hate.
How in the world would Lia ever bully someone she's a cutie and happy person I don't think she would bully anyone also the fact that they looked up when she was born looked at a Photo of her and looked at when they debut is crazy also people would have fell for this more if it was her tranie days but JYP had the stuff and files to sue the person
Lia seems like a nice person but could be fake and mean behind the scenes (in her case I don’t think she’s acting, but there have been lots of cases where idols have been exposed as mean or rude when they had a good public image). We should look at the evidence (or in this case lack of evidence) as the reason for thinking she’s innocent or guilty.
Blaite Rawn I was never assuming I knew everything about commenter or implying it and wdym “they might know lia personally” the comment said and I quote “I don’t think” and again I was never assuming, you’re probably mad for some reason
I love Itzy a lot, they are my ult group, and so it hurts me a lot to see all the hate they have gone through, especially Chaeryeong and Lia. ❤❤ Plus, I hope sneakers does really well on the charts!!
Itzy are one of the best girl groups around. They are very talented & always give good performances. I love their new song, Sneakers, it's such a bop! And has been so successful, still on trending here 🇬🇧 & deservedly so! 👏💖
@@didinekpoplover6329 not all mys and dives do that; but ive seen mys and dives constantly arguing witih midzy's. midzy will comment a comment like "itzy 4th gen queens" and a my or a dive (mainly mys) will start commenting things about aespa, trying to bring aespa down.
The company released a statement along with the police, stating that there is no evidence to state that the bully was Lia. Alot of knetz have come out in defense of Lia and said that the accuser was just trying to tarnish Lia's reputation out of jealousy. There is an article with comments about this on pannchoa. Itzy recently did an article with billboard about "Checkmate " and how they resonated so much with the lyrics. They even addressed the hate comments that they receive. Lia said that often they will get hurt by the words that people say but the members often reassure each other that the haters don't know the real them so they shouldn't pay attention to the lies people say about them out of jealousy. I personally think that the reason why they have been able to overcome it all is because of their close bond. I'm so proud of them and will continue to support them.
the hate train against ITZY is crazy considering these girls are all so humble, hard working, genuine, and extremely talented. No one in 4th gen can out perform ITZY’s stages. MAMA 2021 performance alone is proof of that. I just hope that the girls won’t get affected by all the anonymous bullies online because they don’t deserve the hate at all.
NOT GONNA LIE AT ALL , ALL THE SONGS THAT ITZY HAVE GIVEN TO US ARE ABSOLUTELY MASTERPIECES ALL MEANS ALL, THEY ARE REALLY MULTI-TALENTED BEAUTY QUEENS 🥰💜.
To all the people saying “Lia is so sweet she wouldn’t bully anyone” you have NO IDEA what idols are like behind the scenes, not just her but everyone. I personally think she is a genuinely nice person and therefore wouldn’t bully anyone, but we should rather justify not believing the accusations as “innocent until proven guilty, no evidence or police investigation has been made public so there’s no reason to believe it”.
I'm living in my own happy little bubble, I didn't even know about the types of negative things happening in the fandom. Wow they're really good at staying high!
Honestly, when sneakers teasers was released, i wasnt even mad or pressed, because i know whatever itzy does and releases, it will be a bop. These 5 girls worked their butt off, and they deserve the whole world!
All these criticisms and innuendo never affected their sales. Maybe companies should ignore haters and deal with accusers and not allow them to derail things.
And also now, that some MYs are hating on ITZY and trend hashtag "itzyd*sband" just because of a UA-cam mistake I hope the girls are okay and don't care about stuff like that
It isn't because of a youtube mistake actually. Not defending the itzydisband stuff, but midzys started it. Last week when Girls was released, the same thing happened where Girls would show up on other searches so Midzys said to report aespa's song and many followed. Then when aespa became millionsellers Midzys started saying SM is buying the albums themselves, and basically every achievement aespa had during Girls was put down by mainly Midzys who kept saying shit like "enjoy ur moment itzy is coming". So MYs are doing the same for Midzys now that Sneakers isn't doing as good as Midzys expected it to and Sneakers is also showing up on other groups searches and so on. Midzys hated on Karina's dancing so much she apologised for her own dancing not being good enough and asked that MYs don't repost her dance covers anymore, Giselle and Ningning also addressed the hate they receive a few times, so aespa see all the hate Midzys send them but Midzys didn't care and are now saying they hope Itzy don't see the itzydisband stuff and that they're okay. I wouldn't want either aespa to see hate nor itzy to see the itzydisband stuff. It's childish and petty, but I just wanted to point out that MYs weren't the ones who started it because we're always painted as the villains. Midzys don't know when to quit either and I just hope these fanwars don't damage the girls friendship because they're close
@@nat2ume bruh this beef didn't start this year many fans like to start fan war to their own ego and in turn hurt the group they stan.it the same with army and blinks,stays and moa's e.t.c dispute this artist being friends in real life their fans feel the need to fight in their sted. Also it hate on girls was started by blinks because girls is on it way to be the highest selling girl group album. Am not defending any group stans, because I've seen midzy hate on aespa,mys hate on itzy,but to blame one start that their started it all is misinformation as it leads others to believe one fans groups are toxic than the other when in actuality all kpop fans in general are toxic because of the massive importance kpop in general put on fans,which only serve to increase netzens ego who believe idols are their toys to control.
there is no point of blaming it all on one fandom when they are both as bad tbh.😭 both fandoms have started stuff for no reason & and lot of the people doing that aren’t even mys or midzys they are just troll accounts trying to make the fans look bad. Obviously when stuff like this happens the fandom is going to defend their group and defend the fandom and try to play victim and that happens not just with midzys and mys but with every fandom in the world. 😭 midzys and mys just need to leave each other alone and stick to their group 🤷🏽♀️ like you said these girls are friends and they support each other and it’s sad that the fans don’t get along. Also someone who likes both groups it’s hard to see all the fans fighting and arguing over the stupidest things but we unfortunately can’t do anything about that besides try to ignore/block and not give attention to these ppl who spread hate and lies. 😵💫 There’s no point in arguing over who’s done worse or which group is better bc they’re both amazing and very talented and beautiful women.
@@blackart4854 I know that of course! I meant currently during Girls/Sneakers era bc they were mentioning itzydisband which trended yesterday after Sneakers dropped. I'm not talking in general about all fanwars, there's no solution to that really and no hero or villain it's all equally as shit, but specifically what started Itzydisband to trend from MYs side was Midzys hate, but that doesn't mean MYs never started problems themselves before ofc. Both are equally as toxic when it comes to their groups which sucks, you can defend and support your group while remaining respectful... I saw a MY comment on Itzy's charts congratulation itzy for 700k+ orders on sneakers and a bunch of midzys replying with thank you and congratulation MYs on aespa's successful comeback and it felt so nice, I wish it were always like that
@@kay_kay14 yeah I mentioned that in my reply to Black Art,, I'm referring strictly to the current war happening which trended itzydisband. I've been a midzy since dalla dalla and a MY since predebut so it really sucks to open twitter and see MYs hating on itzy and Midzys hating on aespa meanwhile I have their albums next to each other on my shelf haha! Sooo much blocking to do sigh...
hi I've been a midzy since their debut I didn't know about most of the scandals because I live under a rock. They were the first Kpop group that I have followed right from the start the first group that I really followed I wish the best for them. They will always hold a special place in my heart
Loco was the comeback that officially made me a Midzy and I had absolutely NO idea about the scandals that were going on at the same time! I'm constantly reminded of the huge difference in how South Korea treats bullying scandals versus other countries, because of how huge of a problem it is there, but regardless of whether or not Lia is innocent, people can and do change and there's no reason her behavior while a student should define who she is as a person now. From what I've seen, all Itzy members are kind and sweet, and very very hardworking and talented, and they don't deserve all the hate from K-netz.
Lia is like the Jessica, Krystal and Sulli of her generation. People take everything and run with it to the extremes. It’s honestly just jealousy. People have a hard time accepting a girl that has a lot going for her. Is it possible she was unfriendly with some people in middle school? Maybe. But who is the perfect person in middle school? Who’s to say the people who accused her were unkind to her either? Also, boarding schools are notorious for petty rich kid behaviour. Lia left the boarding school to become an idol - a much harder and gruelling life. Her life choices alone speak for the fact that she didn’t like the environment she had been in.
I really like loco i dont know whats wrong with people they have nothing to do thats why they ready to talk bad about idols they are also human and i know no one is perfect in this world so i hope people leave them alone and let them breath and i really hope true fans believe them and support them
Now the girls are going on a World Tour and they are gonna break records. As a Western fan I got to know ITZY from Loco, It was actually a hit in U.S. My girls are gonna slay no matter what. Lia 100 percent wouldn't do that. Netizens are just so fuckin jobless and pathetic. MIDZYs will always support our girls. Now with Sneakers and their world tour they r gonna slay harder. No matter what haters do at the end of the day ITZY will always remain SUCCESSFUL!! I love my girls. Fuck the haters, ITZY will be more and more successful! They deserve every bit of their success!
"... has been critizised for losing too much weight, as if thats something netizens should be talking about in the first place" I don't get it - why can this not be talked about? Many korean idols have extremely unhealthy diets and become far too thin. These girls are idols - people the general public looks up to. I don't think the way this industry glorifies extremely thin bodies is commendable in any way. It can easily lead to ED's. I think the same way with obesity. Weight should be talked about, within reasonable boundaries of course and in a respectful manner.
Honestly these so called “fans” are b()llying itzy and harassing them for every single thing, leave them alone and if you can’t support them then leave! Itzy are working their butts of day and night and most of the haters just focus on the dumbest things honestly! Alsoooo midzy str34m sneakers and vote, let’s give them win for their hard work! Sneakers was worth the wait and I cant wait for what more they have in sneakers burning week!!
how aren't all of us ANNOYED at the rumors of bullying EVERY group has after debuting. Gosh! Every single group has this scandal and honestly it like the wofl and the kid story. Its ridiculous. I honestly dont pay attention to the opinions of those insane fans x.x find something else to do with your lifes x.x
the Itzy hate bandwagon has gotten ridiculous they're criticised for literally everything, people were hating on Yuna for sneezing... it's sad because they're genuinely one of the most down to earth groups out there who have always stood for loving yourself and expressing self-confidence and empowerment
I think the reason JYP didn't put Lia on hiatus was because they were really confident the rumours were completely false, that's why they immediately pressed defamation charges as soon as the accusations started up
ITZY is composed of 5 talented ,amazing and beautiful women. Their music is always sooo good, their new album is no skip for me , no matter the hate that sneakers got , still a LOT of people loved the other tracks. They are so succesful and keep breaking records everyday, they are THE 4th gen queens and the 4th gen leaders&icons. Keep barking haters, like ITZY said, "they keep talking, i keep walking"
I hope all these idols (Not mentioning anyone) and the so-called bully scandal would wake those bullies out there who want to become an idol. Also, I hope all these cases will warn those who like to bully that bullying will get you nowhere in the future. I hope bullying will STOP.
Why does people have to be so mean to them like if you want to be them then try instead then to be succesful to instead of bringin them down! All love to Itzy!💖
I really do like Itzy they’re my favorite 4thgen group they’re talented these bullies need to get a life. Hating on some allegations that weren’t confirmed?
Lets all agree, haters always have something to accuse any Idol or group for they can never compromise with such simple things thats why they r never happy with anyone. All idols have a group of haters and there is nothing we can do about it, this is life which is unfair and we just have to deal with it and hope for the best!
JYP isn’t really the best in dealing with scandals like forcing Tzuyu to apologize for raising her country’s (Taiwan’s) flag and placing a gag order on most of their idols for scandals. But it’s unfair for the other girls to get dragged because of this. I’m happy that even though there are a lot of trolls, the girls don’t look too harassed and are still strong as ever. At least they can’t be faulted for being lazy (Lia is just not a technical dancer but she’s improving), lipsync queens (just listen to their heavy breathing after their performances), dead in the eyes/expressionless faces (just watch all their face cams), and looking like carbon copies (JYP sure knows how to create groups with distinct looks and personalities). I’m staying neutral on the bullying issue as their might be a basis (Lia is known for her persuasiveness ie. See France video when she got the room she liked even if another member also liked it) but we don’t know to what degree (ie not paying a classmate is miles apart from being violent). I think if it was true to some degree they’d issue an acknowledgement and accept that people are not perfect. They should take a page out of Seo Ye Ji’s playbook when her cray cray manipulative gf personality was exposed, she just came back in another femme fatale, mistress role to cash in on the hate of the Knetizens.
btw i wanna add a detail in how they were formed there was a survival show that they went on before lia joined instead mashiro from kep1er was the leader of their team idk what happened with her but it's still crazy to me to know this i only found out a month ago shortly after becoming a midzy honestly i can't imagine kep1er without mashiro or itzy without lia also i seriously doubt lia would still be in the group if jyp thought she was guilty
I don't get why the smallest crap from middle school matters so much to these people. People change, bullies can change into good, especially if they were kids back then; being a not so good person in the past doesn't make you a criminal in the present. It's pathetic to be the accuser of a child's / teenager's minor mistreatments from way back ago. That's why people grow up, and mature, so they become (theoretically ofc) better versions of themselves. So even if someone were a bully in the past, that doesn't make them a bad person in the present.
People like to be keyboard warriors and they need to realize that their words hurt the girls and others. I love ITZY and I stand by all the members forever. If people don't like Lia, don't listen to ITZY. It's really not that hard. Move on and leave the girls alone.
ITZY has worked so hard for this just to get nasty and rude comments from people who have a stone like heart. The netizens do this cause they know people won’t listen to idols they always blame everything on the idols.
I can’t see Lia ever being that rude. She seems like such a genuinely nice person. I feel horrible for her. And she was even in the center of one part in Sneakers, she’s CLEARLY not a bad dancer. And she’s a really good singer, too. They should just leave Chaeryeong alone, she’s SO pretty. She’s a talented singer and an incredible dancer. And for Ryujin and Yeji, they can’t choose their hairstyles.
well am not a midzy but there songs are bop to be honest.and if lia was accused of all the things and found guilty ,she should atleast say something about it because she was wrong and has to apologise but idk if jyp will let her on the other hand why are netizens hating on other members weight and everything else? not fair
So you're telling me JYP could make Tzuyu (when she was sixteen, SIXTEEN) apologize for raising her own country's flag but not make Lia apologize for that? It's either that it's fake or JYP is just dumb
Itzy gets so much hate it's so sad girls are Nothin but Hardworking and beautiful! And i think you should have mentioned how successful itzy was honestly this video downplays how popular they were. Kpop world was taken by a storm when wannabe released!
Tbh I think JYP did a good job of hiding Lia’s scandal. I’ve been getting into KPop for the last few months and this is the first time I’ve heard of this.
They didn't hide it there was just nothing there. It was a dude who made multiple online accounts to confirm his own statements as facts. He was upset with Lia because she called him out for messing in her business. All over a book Lia borrowed from a friend of hers, and had not yet returned. This guy liked LIAs friend, and wanted to impress her and took the book without asking Lia and gave it back. The friend never asked him to and said she didn't have any issues with Lia and no idea why he was getting involved. Of course LIA could say something about it to him. But he blew his chance with the friend and held a grudge. That's all it ever was. PERIOD. The police only said they didn't find him trying to intentionally hurt her career, which by the way, here in Korea, is an actionable offense, regardless if what is said is true. If you harm some's name or image even with truth, it is actionable as defamation here. So they just said, well we don't think we can prove his intention to harm her name or career and didn't pursue the case against the dude. Never was it determined if it was true or false. They did say, they found nothing to indicate he was bullied or that Lia acted inappropriately toward him. But poor translations and antifans just jumped on it saying "If they didn't charge him, it must be true" That is not the case. But regardless of if she said harsh words to him for butting into her business with her friend or not, that is not bullying because if it was EVERY PERSON IN THE ENTIRE WORLD has been bullied in their lifetime. Not one of you can say you havent heard something unpleasant from a schoolmate or co-worker in your life. OR said something to one yourself.
Literally many people have tried bringing Itzy down with the rumours smh Itzy always gives us great and amazing work 😕 and the AUDACITY people have to call Chaeryeong UGLY?? EXCUSE ME they should take a look at a mirror
I don't understand why Knetz make everything into a big chaos and hate them until they break down. Tbh, believing an online post without any proofs shouldn't be believed. Many idols have gotten into school bullying controversy during their career peak and people still don't learn
Itzy Is like one of the best groups of this generation and all they do is try their best and that's why they have so many midst like you and I and I hope their future is as bright as stars
I dont understand one thing and that is why do all have to play a victim card after the idol being debuted and have a big future ahead of them . Why didn't yey address their case before them debuting like you literally trying to ruin her career but doing soo and even though she might have been a bully in past . Now she is not and to think someone like lia being a bully is like beyond possible for me and now as it was in the past can we just stopping bringing the topic and move on . And stop blaming lia for the down fall of itzy like itzy is on the top no matter what other says its u all not appreciating their work and now putting blame on someone. Just have some shame okay . Respect the members and their hardwork. Stop saying things to lia .
Just getting in their headspace, I guess there’s no fun in accusing someone unknown, but once they go up it’s more satisfying to get revenge and bring them down. #crabmentality
The thing I just can't accept is always, always that kind of comments where they have the audacity to say 'X doesn't meet the korean beauty standard' like wtf!! This like a peak of toxicity!!!
No hate but even if Lia used to bully people ( i really think she didn't) that doesn't give these toxic people the right to do the same to her. Like there are other ways other than hating one for the past act u don't know if they even have done. I stan ITZY with all my heart and really hate in when certain people with no direct evidence of some random scandal bully idols for no reason😡. They are already going through soo much but still people have to hate them. Even the companies don't wanna apply so many harsh rules and regulations on the idols but just because of all these hates they too have😔😔 If we want to stop this, we have to change the pase of our thinking🙂
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I don’t know why people are so mean to them. ITZY is so talented and one of my favorite girl groups. They deserve all the love! 💞
Some people just want to put others down for no reason🤷♂
They live vicariously through idols and project their insecurities on the it’s literally that simple
Just jealous of their success
Nobody is mean to Itzy.
Same itzy is one of my favorite group. ❤Itzy are the queens of 4th gen 👑👑👑👑
lia was always the scapegoat for itzy. people were shaming her looks, targeting her weight, vocals and dancing. she was always the member that got the most hate since debut. i’m staying neutral on her bullying scandal cause there’s no solid proof and i wouldn’t be surprised if the allegation is to simply bring her down. i just can’t understand why? lia improves every comeback, she tries her best to keep up and her unique voice adds colour to itzy, she definitely deserved to be in itzy. also chaeryeong is so pretty, like are people blind??? leave itzy alone
Chaeryoung also gets a lot of mean comments
There are no pretty girls in ITZY
@@amiboacid7183 complete lies lmao
@@amiboacid7183ur calling them ugly?,Look at ur self.
@@amiboacid7183shut up? They’re much prettier than you 😮😮😮
Best thing JYPE ever did to ensure Itzy’s success was teaching all of them English. Part of the reason I like them so much is because they put out content in English that I can enjoy more than watching Korean with subs. They also do interviews in English so are known by the wider western audience.
JYPE made Itzy to conquer the west. Most of them can English and one is fluent. Yes, they did taught them to speak English because they had the time to do so.
They could had done with Twice but it's impossible because of there packed schedules and adding English lessons to their already exhausting schedules is a big no no.
i really wish JYP made Twice learn English pre debut tbh. i feel like they’d be much more popular if they had more content in English
@@nmixx.changeupletsgo Twice debuted in 2015 and during that time K-pop wasn't popular mainstream in the west. JYP made Twice to conquer the Japanese market by adding Japanese members and teaching the members to learn Japanese. It takes a long time to learn a new language especially if you are a beginner which all Twice members are mostly in thr beginning level. Also all of the members don't have enough confidence when speaking English in front of a camera.
@@jordicarvajal2834 i Mean we all know how well TWICE do in that 'western' market even (can i say ?) Bad in engricsh..
@@noobleman2685 Twice wasn't really a group made to become global superstars. They were made only for Korea and Japan. But when they started gaining popularity in the west, JYP decided to expand them into the US market.
As regards to these bullying scandals, it really is a "he said she said" type of situation and I wouldn't put it past people to lie since a few other artists have been dragged through the mud until evidence comes out that shows that artist was actually a really good person. Now I can't say that for every artist, but I'm going to need real evidence to prove something is true, "innocent until proven guilty."
Really respect for the girls for always giving high quality work I used to think they don't get much hate until I started checking stuff about them... They always give their best regardless all the criticism they get and always show love to other idols.. Really respect their potential
Fr
Why do people blindly believe the accusations? A year and a half later, there is still no evidence of Lia being a bully. The scandal is just another excuse for netizens to hate on Lia and Itzy
This is like the amber who cried abuse
The fact that TXT and Itzy both debuted in 2019 and they both have been not able to breath properly without getting attacked by everyone but itzy faced more difficulty as they are a female group but at the end both of them are successful enough to prove they are talented and loved by many
Tbh I never even heard of Lia or Hyunjin's scandal until you mentioned them and I only got into Itzy during their crazy in love period.
LOCO just really touched me and it help brought me out of my unmotivated phase and see the world through rose coloured lenses again. Itzy will always hold a special place in my heart especially Yeji ♡
And Chaeryeong and Lia really shined in Checkmate and I hope everyone could enjoy their work like I did.
It’s just weird how bullying scandals play out in sk. There never seems to be proof on either side and no one is ever willing to take it to court. So atp, people can either believe lia is a bully or not, but it’s misinformation to claim it as fact. Like that comment in the video accused lia of school violence when the original accuser didn’t even include violence in her statement
YOU MUST STAN WENDY WILLIAMS X BTS THEY ARE POWERFUL AND BETTER THAN FLOP ITZY WOULD EVER BE ⚠️⚠️
@@BlueCinnamonRoll me as an army i would definitely say that is such a shame to see people like you that think that by bringing down other artists you’ll gain anything positive for the artists that you like, bruh you shouldn’t even call yourself an army if you are that toxic and negative.
The fact that Lia was in Canada at the time-
@@BlueCinnamonRolllol never. Itzy is Itzy. Idk how u fvckers always compare different generations, groups, ages, etc…
i wish haters would just stop being haters for two second or forever i love itzy on matter what happens itzy has been rising stars since debut keep going itzy your fans love you so much.
Can we even call them kpop fan's how come wearing something from India is racist when probably thousands of Billions of children probably where this in Halloween and I don't see any parents complaining so why Do that twords an idol (also I think the people who claimed Lia bullied was actually the bully them sell being the fact that they know a lot about Bully and what Lia did and I'm pretty sure if you're a bully you wouldn't let them see you bully them)
Im not completley sure that Lia was a bully or not but its none of their business even if she was a bully people do change plus it's not fully confirmed that she really was a bully back then and for that it doesn't mean she can't be an Idol or have a good life. Haters also come up with the most simplest things to accuse them such as weight, appearance and how good they dance. Can they even be any better? Im literally sick of these people not minding their own business and discriminating Idols for their flaws...
@@heedeungie7 i agree 100%
@@Binchanareangels that makes since people are just doing haters
@@heedeungie7 100% agree with this people shouldn't stick their noses into someones lives especially when that was in middle school and theres barely any real proof. People change alot so even if she was a bully (which i highly doubt) she would've changed when getting into idol life since theres so much responsibility and crazy work days
The hate toward Itzy is getting out of control. I know y’all are pressed because they’re 4th gen leaders and your faves can’t keep up, but seriously ? Be worthy instead of choosing the facility of hate on internet.
Fr.
Let's just appreciate how much work she puts into editing >>
Literally a lot of work on her videos but editing it's hard and I agree everyone should appreciate for all her hard work on these videos 💛
💺🌐🗺️🗾🏝️🛣️🛤️🌁🌉🏦🏗️🏚️🏯🏤
I believe it's a whole team of people and this Channel is run by company, but if it's all made by one person then wow
YOU MUST STAN WENDY WILLIAMS X BTS THEY ARE POWERFUL AND BETTER THAN FLOP ITZY WOULD EVER BE ⚠️⚠️
I will never forgive the people who ruined lia’s confidence. This girl looked so confident and happy about her idol life before they tried to bring her down
Fr it’s so sad, and they r the reasons why she’s on a hiatus 😭😭
its ok those people who ruined lia‘s popularity doesnt even desevre a single attention, they are just jealous and got too bored of their sad life thats why they tried to ruin other people’s❤ (Lia is so unique and cute, no one can replace her
Honestly, i’m not a fan of KPOP thing but then i accidentally heard the WANNABE SONG from ITZY’ I was like Goshhh! I LOVE THIS ERA. So now, every time I listened to their music album it’s very inspiring and motivating me a lot. FOCUSED ON SELF LOVE ERA. ITZY is the best ever kpop group for me! ❤
People really need to stop hating on Itzy for no reason, to be completely honest I think that netizens are just jealous. The girls are really doing great, and I know that they will continue to make great comebacks
Why do I got a feeling that some of those b*llying controversies are just illustrated with one or two incidents? Like... A person is not a b*lly if they treated you badly or were an a**hole to you one or two times in a year. We have all been mean or mistreated someone during our teenage years, either on purpouse or not. Everybody is inmature at those ages, get off your high horse.
or behaves, in the opinion of some, to be frowned upon when there are so many sensitive people.
Lia has such a bright and caring personality that imagining her as a bully would mean that she's actually a Hanibal Lector level of sociopath, which is extremely unlikely to say the least. Funny how the people who accuse her of bulling are worse bullies themselves... Shame on anyone who tries to tare down another person's career out of jealousy or spite!
She is a bully there are witnesses
@@shravanipatade549 you mean liars?
@@torenvarela9340 aww you are so naive and innocent
@@shravanipatade549 Nope there were not any witnesses and that is why the issue was dropped.. The dude who claimed Lia was mean to him, because he took a book she had and gave it back to the owner (who never actually asked him to do) before Lia was ready to give it back (she legit barrowed it), she got upset with him and addressed him about it. In fact when the girl who's book it was was asked about it, she said she had no issue with Lia and gave her the book to read, and has NO idea why the guy took it on her behalf. The police Investigation determined there was NO way to prove he spoke out to harm her career or not. THAT is all, they made no finding of fact on either side as to who said or did what. They never found her to be a bully or was there any documentation on the issue other than the statements made by the 3 involved individuals. SO YOU ARE JUST wrong.
@@hepteropterix Lia was cleared of all accusations. It was even covered on this channel about a week ago. I know you can't judge a book by it's cover, even Red Velvet's Irene had a bad day and snapped on one of her staff members, but that doesn't mean she's suddenly a horrible person as soon as the camera's are off. What I'm saying is that people should look more carefully into what we do know about a person, before they go pointing their fingers trying to shame someone. Don't bandwagon the hate.
I like Itzy there unique and not like any other GG that’s what makes them one of a kind. Ryunjin is my bias. They all slay and Sneakers is a bop.
yes their so unique and Ryujin is my Bias too!
and yes sneakers was just IT
Itzy is one of the best group in 4th gen so far. Their performance is always on top and very exciting to watch.
How in the world would Lia ever bully someone she's a cutie and happy person I don't think she would bully anyone also the fact that they looked up when she was born looked at a Photo of her and looked at when they debut is crazy also people would have fell for this more if it was her tranie days but JYP had the stuff and files to sue the person
No hate but a cute face can also a sinister face underneath and You are a simp for standing up for someone just because they are cute.
You’re acting like you know lia’s whole personality, every idols acts the same, nice and respectful, some could even be faking it
Lia seems like a nice person but could be fake and mean behind the scenes (in her case I don’t think she’s acting, but there have been lots of cases where idols have been exposed as mean or rude when they had a good public image). We should look at the evidence (or in this case lack of evidence) as the reason for thinking she’s innocent or guilty.
@@staneverglow7795 you're acting like you know the commentetor personally, they might know Lia personally...stop assuming 😋
Blaite Rawn
I was never assuming I knew everything about commenter or implying it and wdym “they might know lia personally” the comment said and I quote “I don’t think” and again I was never assuming, you’re probably mad for some reason
I love Itzy a lot, they are my ult group, and so it hurts me a lot to see all the hate they have gone through, especially Chaeryeong and Lia. ❤❤ Plus, I hope sneakers does really well on the charts!!
I love them! Itzy is my favorite K-pop group by far and I hope that Lia will come back from hiatus soon❤
Itzy are one of the best girl groups around. They are very talented & always give good performances. I love their new song, Sneakers, it's such a bop! And has been so successful, still on trending here 🇬🇧
& deservedly so! 👏💖
Exactly
MY’s and Dives keep putting Itzy down and as a Midzy, it’s so annoying...
MY’s? Which fandom is it ?
@@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067 the aespa fans
I'm part of the three Fandoms (Dive,MY,Midzy) and it's sad seeing other Fandoms bring other groups down
Lolll don't play the victims midzy and blink is like poison for aespa you hate aespa for every single achieve and now try to make Mys look bad
@@didinekpoplover6329 not all mys and dives do that; but ive seen mys and dives constantly arguing witih midzy's. midzy will comment a comment like "itzy 4th gen queens" and a my or a dive (mainly mys) will start commenting things about aespa, trying to bring aespa down.
Itzy is definitely a one of a kind group
ITZY is such an amazing group and I’m so proud to be a midzy. I don’t regret stanning them one bit.
The company released a statement along with the police, stating that there is no evidence to state that the bully was Lia. Alot of knetz have come out in defense of Lia and said that the accuser was just trying to tarnish Lia's reputation out of jealousy. There is an article with comments about this on pannchoa. Itzy recently did an article with billboard about "Checkmate " and how they resonated so much with the lyrics. They even addressed the hate comments that they receive. Lia said that often they will get hurt by the words that people say but the members often reassure each other that the haters don't know the real them so they shouldn't pay attention to the lies people say about them out of jealousy. I personally think that the reason why they have been able to overcome it all is because of their close bond. I'm so proud of them and will continue to support them.
Im proud of ITZY no matter what , i love them so much 💖
the hate train against ITZY is crazy considering these girls are all so humble, hard working, genuine, and extremely talented. No one in 4th gen can out perform ITZY’s stages. MAMA 2021 performance alone is proof of that. I just hope that the girls won’t get affected by all the anonymous bullies online because they don’t deserve the hate at all.
NOT GONNA LIE AT ALL , ALL THE SONGS THAT ITZY HAVE GIVEN TO US ARE ABSOLUTELY MASTERPIECES ALL MEANS ALL, THEY ARE REALLY MULTI-TALENTED BEAUTY QUEENS 🥰💜.
To all the people saying “Lia is so sweet she wouldn’t bully anyone” you have NO IDEA what idols are like behind the scenes, not just her but everyone. I personally think she is a genuinely nice person and therefore wouldn’t bully anyone, but we should rather justify not believing the accusations as “innocent until proven guilty, no evidence or police investigation has been made public so there’s no reason to believe it”.
I'm living in my own happy little bubble, I didn't even know about the types of negative things happening in the fandom. Wow they're really good at staying high!
GIRL THE WAY YOU EXPLAIN EVERYTHING IS SO DAMN CLEAR AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND. BECOME MY SCIENCE TEACHER PLS HAH
Honestly, when sneakers teasers was released, i wasnt even mad or pressed, because i know whatever itzy does and releases, it will be a bop. These 5 girls worked their butt off, and they deserve the whole world!
Violence and bullying are two separate things stans need to pipe down … conflating the two minimises actual acts of violence
All these criticisms and innuendo never affected their sales. Maybe companies should ignore haters and deal with accusers and not allow them to derail things.
It weird how every bully come out in 2021 when ive debut
Yup, I stan ITZY too and I love their songs! Don't know why some people don't like them is it because they're too famous? haha
And also now, that some MYs are hating on ITZY and trend hashtag "itzyd*sband" just because of a UA-cam mistake
I hope the girls are okay and don't care about stuff like that
It isn't because of a youtube mistake actually. Not defending the itzydisband stuff, but midzys started it. Last week when Girls was released, the same thing happened where Girls would show up on other searches so Midzys said to report aespa's song and many followed. Then when aespa became millionsellers Midzys started saying SM is buying the albums themselves, and basically every achievement aespa had during Girls was put down by mainly Midzys who kept saying shit like "enjoy ur moment itzy is coming". So MYs are doing the same for Midzys now that Sneakers isn't doing as good as Midzys expected it to and Sneakers is also showing up on other groups searches and so on. Midzys hated on Karina's dancing so much she apologised for her own dancing not being good enough and asked that MYs don't repost her dance covers anymore, Giselle and Ningning also addressed the hate they receive a few times, so aespa see all the hate Midzys send them but Midzys didn't care and are now saying they hope Itzy don't see the itzydisband stuff and that they're okay. I wouldn't want either aespa to see hate nor itzy to see the itzydisband stuff. It's childish and petty, but I just wanted to point out that MYs weren't the ones who started it because we're always painted as the villains. Midzys don't know when to quit either and I just hope these fanwars don't damage the girls friendship because they're close
@@nat2ume bruh this beef didn't start this year many fans like to start fan war to their own ego and in turn hurt the group they stan.it the same with army and blinks,stays and moa's e.t.c dispute this artist being friends in real life their fans feel the need to fight in their sted.
Also it hate on girls was started by blinks because girls is on it way to be the highest selling girl group album.
Am not defending any group stans, because I've seen midzy hate on aespa,mys hate on itzy,but to blame one start that their started it all is misinformation as it leads others to believe one fans groups are toxic than the other when in actuality all kpop fans in general are toxic because of the massive importance kpop in general put on fans,which only serve to increase netzens ego who believe idols are their toys to control.
there is no point of blaming it all on one fandom when they are both as bad tbh.😭 both fandoms have started stuff for no reason & and lot of the people doing that aren’t even mys or midzys they are just troll accounts trying to make the fans look bad. Obviously when stuff like this happens the fandom is going to defend their group and defend the fandom and try to play victim and that happens not just with midzys and mys but with every fandom in the world. 😭 midzys and mys just need to leave each other alone and stick to their group 🤷🏽♀️ like you said these girls are friends and they support each other and it’s sad that the fans don’t get along. Also someone who likes both groups it’s hard to see all the fans fighting and arguing over the stupidest things but we unfortunately can’t do anything about that besides try to ignore/block and not give attention to these ppl who spread hate and lies. 😵💫
There’s no point in arguing over who’s done worse or which group is better bc they’re both amazing and very talented and beautiful women.
@@blackart4854 I know that of course! I meant currently during Girls/Sneakers era bc they were mentioning itzydisband which trended yesterday after Sneakers dropped. I'm not talking in general about all fanwars, there's no solution to that really and no hero or villain it's all equally as shit, but specifically what started Itzydisband to trend from MYs side was Midzys hate, but that doesn't mean MYs never started problems themselves before ofc. Both are equally as toxic when it comes to their groups which sucks, you can defend and support your group while remaining respectful... I saw a MY comment on Itzy's charts congratulation itzy for 700k+ orders on sneakers and a bunch of midzys replying with thank you and congratulation MYs on aespa's successful comeback and it felt so nice, I wish it were always like that
@@kay_kay14 yeah I mentioned that in my reply to Black Art,, I'm referring strictly to the current war happening which trended itzydisband.
I've been a midzy since dalla dalla and a MY since predebut so it really sucks to open twitter and see MYs hating on itzy and Midzys hating on aespa meanwhile I have their albums next to each other on my shelf haha! Sooo much blocking to do sigh...
I love them so much! ❤
hi I've been a midzy since their debut I didn't know about most of the scandals because I live under a rock. They were the first Kpop group that I have followed right from the start the first group that I really followed I wish the best for them. They will always hold a special place in my heart
Loco was the comeback that officially made me a Midzy and I had absolutely NO idea about the scandals that were going on at the same time! I'm constantly reminded of the huge difference in how South Korea treats bullying scandals versus other countries, because of how huge of a problem it is there, but regardless of whether or not Lia is innocent, people can and do change and there's no reason her behavior while a student should define who she is as a person now. From what I've seen, all Itzy members are kind and sweet, and very very hardworking and talented, and they don't deserve all the hate from K-netz.
Lia is like the Jessica, Krystal and Sulli of her generation. People take everything and run with it to the extremes. It’s honestly just jealousy. People have a hard time accepting a girl that has a lot going for her.
Is it possible she was unfriendly with some people in middle school? Maybe. But who is the perfect person in middle school? Who’s to say the people who accused her were unkind to her either? Also, boarding schools are notorious for petty rich kid behaviour. Lia left the boarding school to become an idol - a much harder and gruelling life. Her life choices alone speak for the fact that she didn’t like the environment she had been in.
How about they post their photos on social platforms and I'll call them *ugly* for *no valid* reason.
Need one about Skz
Same but it woodn’t be that interesting later on, they have a very smooth path currently,
I really like loco i dont know whats wrong with people they have nothing to do thats why they ready to talk bad about idols they are also human and i know no one is perfect in this world so i hope people leave them alone and let them breath and i really hope true fans believe them and support them
Now the girls are going on a World Tour and they are gonna break records. As a Western fan I got to know ITZY from Loco, It was actually a hit in U.S. My girls are gonna slay no matter what. Lia 100 percent wouldn't do that. Netizens are just so fuckin jobless and pathetic. MIDZYs will always support our girls. Now with Sneakers and their world tour they r gonna slay harder. No matter what haters do at the end of the day ITZY will always remain SUCCESSFUL!! I love my girls. Fuck the haters, ITZY will be more and more successful! They deserve every bit of their success!
Leave them alone, these neitzens need to check their mental health, really. They don't seem to be okay.
"... has been critizised for losing too much weight, as if thats something netizens should be talking about in the first place" I don't get it - why can this not be talked about? Many korean idols have extremely unhealthy diets and become far too thin. These girls are idols - people the general public looks up to. I don't think the way this industry glorifies extremely thin bodies is commendable in any way. It can easily lead to ED's. I think the same way with obesity. Weight should be talked about, within reasonable boundaries of course and in a respectful manner.
I want ITZY IN COACHELLA PLEASE.
Honestly these so called “fans” are b()llying itzy and harassing them for every single thing, leave them alone and if you can’t support them then leave! Itzy are working their butts of day and night and most of the haters just focus on the dumbest things honestly!
Alsoooo midzy str34m sneakers and vote, let’s give them win for their hard work! Sneakers was worth the wait and I cant wait for what more they have in sneakers burning week!!
QUEENS ITZY 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰💞
how aren't all of us ANNOYED at the rumors of bullying EVERY group has after debuting. Gosh! Every single group has this scandal and honestly it like the wofl and the kid story. Its ridiculous. I honestly dont pay attention to the opinions of those insane fans x.x find something else to do with your lifes x.x
the Itzy hate bandwagon has gotten ridiculous
they're criticised for literally everything, people were hating on Yuna for sneezing...
it's sad because they're genuinely one of the most down to earth groups out there who have always stood for loving yourself and expressing self-confidence and empowerment
Yeah. Yuna is the epitome of self confidence and woman empowerment even at a young age. I strive to be like her. F those haters!!!
Lia is the seem one of the kindest member of itzy .
And they accused her for bullying 🙄
I think the reason JYP didn't put Lia on hiatus was because they were really confident the rumours were completely false, that's why they immediately pressed defamation charges as soon as the accusations started up
JYP really knows how to make sure their artists maintain a clean image
ITZY is composed of 5 talented ,amazing and beautiful women. Their music is always sooo good, their new album is no skip for me , no matter the hate that sneakers got , still a LOT of people loved the other tracks. They are so succesful and keep breaking records everyday, they are THE 4th gen queens and the 4th gen leaders&icons. Keep barking haters, like ITZY said, "they keep talking, i keep walking"
Itzy knows what rags to riches meaning.
I never heard the lia scandal so it never ruined them
I don't think netizens has anything to do but make false rumours and hate on ppl for no reason
Well I’m really proud of itzy, they were they first ever 4th Gen GirlGroup I liked, they don’t deserve any hate on any songs, or hate on any members
Itzy and Everglow are the only gg from 4gen that i like.
Banana juice
I hope all these idols (Not mentioning anyone) and the so-called bully scandal would wake those bullies out there who want to become an idol. Also, I hope all these cases will warn those who like to bully that bullying will get you nowhere in the future. I hope bullying will STOP.
This is the only youtube channel who's wholesome to the idols,
kpop fans really need to be like this person.
there r so preety . Haters r just jeulous
Why does people have to be so mean to them like if you want to be them then try instead then to be succesful to instead of bringin them down! All love to Itzy!💖
I really do like Itzy they’re my favorite 4thgen group they’re talented these bullies need to get a life. Hating on some allegations that weren’t confirmed?
Lets all agree, haters always have something to accuse any Idol or group for they can never compromise with such simple things thats why they r never happy with anyone. All idols have a group of haters and there is nothing we can do about it, this is life which is unfair and we just have to deal with it and hope for the best!
I never know itzy went through so much bc of people online
Your editing are always amazing
It is just sad about how many idols careers end cuz of what netizens and haters do
JYP isn’t really the best in dealing with scandals like forcing Tzuyu to apologize for raising her country’s (Taiwan’s) flag and placing a gag order on most of their idols for scandals. But it’s unfair for the other girls to get dragged because of this. I’m happy that even though there are a lot of trolls, the girls don’t look too harassed and are still strong as ever. At least they can’t be faulted for being lazy (Lia is just not a technical dancer but she’s improving), lipsync queens (just listen to their heavy breathing after their performances), dead in the eyes/expressionless faces (just watch all their face cams), and looking like carbon copies (JYP sure knows how to create groups with distinct looks and personalities).
I’m staying neutral on the bullying issue as their might be a basis (Lia is known for her persuasiveness ie. See France video when she got the room she liked even if another member also liked it) but we don’t know to what degree (ie not paying a classmate is miles apart from being violent). I think if it was true to some degree they’d issue an acknowledgement and accept that people are not perfect. They should take a page out of Seo Ye Ji’s playbook when her cray cray manipulative gf personality was exposed, she just came back in another femme fatale, mistress role to cash in on the hate of the Knetizens.
ITZY IS THE STANDARD
btw i wanna add a detail in how they were formed there was a survival show that they went on before lia joined instead mashiro from kep1er was the leader of their team idk what happened with her but it's still crazy to me to know this i only found out a month ago shortly after becoming a midzy honestly i can't imagine kep1er without mashiro or itzy without lia also i seriously doubt lia would still be in the group if jyp thought she was guilty
I don't get why the smallest crap from middle school matters so much to these people. People change, bullies can change into good, especially if they were kids back then; being a not so good person in the past doesn't make you a criminal in the present. It's pathetic to be the accuser of a child's / teenager's minor mistreatments from way back ago. That's why people grow up, and mature, so they become (theoretically ofc) better versions of themselves.
So even if someone were a bully in the past, that doesn't make them a bad person in the present.
They deserve everything good 💙
People like to be keyboard warriors and they need to realize that their words hurt the girls and others. I love ITZY and I stand by all the members forever. If people don't like Lia, don't listen to ITZY. It's really not that hard. Move on and leave the girls alone.
ITZY has worked so hard for this just to get nasty and rude comments from people who have a stone like heart. The netizens do this cause they know people won’t listen to idols they always blame everything on the idols.
never heard of lia's situation till now so jyp def did a good job covering it up :/
You never heard about it because there's nothing to it really, highschool drama that none of the parties involved can prove their point
I can’t see Lia ever being that rude. She seems like such a genuinely nice person. I feel horrible for her. And she was even in the center of one part in Sneakers, she’s CLEARLY not a bad dancer. And she’s a really good singer, too.
They should just leave Chaeryeong alone, she’s SO pretty. She’s a talented singer and an incredible dancer.
And for Ryujin and Yeji, they can’t choose their hairstyles.
I honestly think itzy is the best girl group for me
ITZY ARE 4 GEN QUEENS
ITZY"s debut song is actually iconic now! I think JYP did a great job at writing their debut song..~
People are too jealous of them and their perfection, their success so they hate them .... SIMPLE AS THAT
I don't see why people hating on Itzy members they are beautiful and gorgeous give this girls a break
well am not a midzy but there songs are bop to be honest.and if lia was accused of all the things and found guilty ,she should atleast say something about it because she was wrong and has to apologise but idk if jyp will let her on the other hand why are netizens hating on other members weight and everything else? not fair
So you're telling me JYP could make Tzuyu (when she was sixteen, SIXTEEN) apologize for raising her own country's flag but not make Lia apologize for that? It's either that it's fake or JYP is just dumb
@@whatamisupposedtotwerk4697 believe me its weird ,look how they put hyunjin on heitus without any proof of false claims...that says alot......
@@preciouslyunhinged ikr! That's literally so weird
@@whatamisupposedtotwerk4697 kpop companies are shady...af
@@preciouslyunhinged as much as I love kpop I agree
Itzy gets so much hate it's so sad girls are Nothin but Hardworking and beautiful!
And i think you should have mentioned how successful itzy was honestly this video downplays how popular they were. Kpop world was taken by a storm when wannabe released!
Tbh I think JYP did a good job of hiding Lia’s scandal. I’ve been getting into KPop for the last few months and this is the first time I’ve heard of this.
They didn't hide it there was just nothing there. It was a dude who made multiple online accounts to confirm his own statements as facts. He was upset with Lia because she called him out for messing in her business. All over a book Lia borrowed from a friend of hers, and had not yet returned. This guy liked LIAs friend, and wanted to impress her and took the book without asking Lia and gave it back. The friend never asked him to and said she didn't have any issues with Lia and no idea why he was getting involved. Of course LIA could say something about it to him. But he blew his chance with the friend and held a grudge. That's all it ever was. PERIOD. The police only said they didn't find him trying to intentionally hurt her career, which by the way, here in Korea, is an actionable offense, regardless if what is said is true. If you harm some's name or image even with truth, it is actionable as defamation here. So they just said, well we don't think we can prove his intention to harm her name or career and didn't pursue the case against the dude. Never was it determined if it was true or false. They did say, they found nothing to indicate he was bullied or that Lia acted inappropriately toward him. But poor translations and antifans just jumped on it saying "If they didn't charge him, it must be true" That is not the case. But regardless of if she said harsh words to him for butting into her business with her friend or not, that is not bullying because if it was EVERY PERSON IN THE ENTIRE WORLD has been bullied in their lifetime. Not one of you can say you havent heard something unpleasant from a schoolmate or co-worker in your life. OR said something to one yourself.
@@incheonguy this needs to be pinned
I feel really bad for Lia and ITZY in general. They don't deserve hate because of one person's opinion.
So much info about ITZY...that we just don't know...thanks for the video
i think alot about some of these stupid controverses because since itzy is such a outstanding gg i think people are just jelouse of their sucess.
Itzy deserves the world but the world doesn't deserve them.
Literally many people have tried bringing Itzy down with the rumours smh Itzy always gives us great and amazing work 😕 and the AUDACITY people have to call Chaeryeong UGLY?? EXCUSE ME they should take a look at a mirror
I don't understand why Knetz make everything into a big chaos and hate them until they break down.
Tbh, believing an online post without any proofs shouldn't be believed. Many idols have gotten into school bullying controversy during their career peak and people still don't learn
Itzy Is like one of the best groups of this generation and all they do is try their best and that's why they have so many midst like you and I and I hope their future is as bright as stars
I dont understand one thing and that is why do all have to play a victim card after the idol being debuted and have a big future ahead of them . Why didn't yey address their case before them debuting like you literally trying to ruin her career but doing soo and even though she might have been a bully in past . Now she is not and to think someone like lia being a bully is like beyond possible for me and now as it was in the past can we just stopping bringing the topic and move on . And stop blaming lia for the down fall of itzy like itzy is on the top no matter what other says its u all not appreciating their work and now putting blame on someone. Just have some shame okay . Respect the members and their hardwork. Stop saying things to lia .
One of the bullying accusations I saw in the past is that they couldn't see their "bully" in tv so they became adverse of that.
Just getting in their headspace, I guess there’s no fun in accusing someone unknown, but once they go up it’s more satisfying to get revenge and bring them down. #crabmentality
Lia is an angel.
and, this came out when ITZY started gaining fame out of Korea!!!
ITZY THE 4TH GEN FEMALE LEADERS AND QUEENS
The thing I just can't accept is always, always that kind of comments where they have the audacity to say 'X doesn't meet the korean beauty standard' like wtf!! This like a peak of toxicity!!!
No hate but even if Lia used to bully people ( i really think she didn't) that doesn't give these toxic people the right to do the same to her. Like there are other ways other than hating one for the past act u don't know if they even have done. I stan ITZY with all my heart and really hate in when certain people with no direct evidence of some random scandal bully idols for no reason😡. They are already going through soo much but still people have to hate them. Even the companies don't wanna apply so many harsh rules and regulations on the idols but just because of all these hates they too have😔😔 If we want to stop this, we have to change the pase of our thinking🙂
Like people are doing with Garam
oh ye thanks for making vids like this
1:30 "the song rlly isnt like jyp and its rlly shocking" the song is literally called "different different" what were you expecting