So sad how idols always have to put up with having a “perfect” persona and even if they make the smallest mistake or a misunderstanding they get the worst hate for it.
@@casualsuede Yeah I know that but I feel like it’s worse to put up a fake persona that would end up worse if found out you know? And yes they are crazy honestly.
I feel so bad for Wonyoung… she seemed so much happier in iz*one. It’s like she was forced to grow up WAY too fast. She’s just 17… I cannot even imagine how much all the hate affects her mentally
I know how you feel, just look at cahewon and sakura in leeserafim, despite of strict the rules of being idol, they can be a comedian when they all are talking together, I think wonyoung doesn't get that freedom as much as before
She gets hate for literally everything, I don't blame her for keeping it quiet & just doing her job (fanservice, photoshoots, brand deals, etc). Like she got hate for eating a strawberry cutely, as if playing it up for the cameras isn't literally part of being an idol...? I'm sure behind the scenes she's playful with her members, I mean we can see it in some of their vlogs anyway. But it's clear she's not as happy as she was in IZ*ONE, I think there being less members & her not being the maknae anymore made her feel like she had to grow up- plus, she's becoming a huge name in kpop right now, so that's probably not helping either.
The biggest thing I worry about with I’VE is how jammed-packed their schedules are. Especially Wonyoung, even today she has mubank and then immediately has to prepare to go to Germany for two days to perform. And then has come right to Korea to work again. Even when fans ask her how her sleeping schedule has been she says “It’s better if you don't know.” It's scary because even the members said she won't share her struggles with them. Wonyoung will just work without ever complaining. Plus She already confirmed I’VE is having a summer comeback. They worked on “Love Dive” in February so I wouldn't be surprised if the song and Choreography for the new come back is already finished or close to it. On top of all the girls having individual activities, frequent comebacks and constant work with no breaks is bad for the member's health. None of them are even 20 yet. I can honestly see I’VE being overworked throughout their careers.
Wonyoung is really overworked of this 4gen Like she is ambassadors of 4 huge brands(miu miu, kirsh global,innisfree global and chaulet Jewry )and highschooler She deserve all the respect for her cfans buy 98k sales for love dive (she is money marker)
@@lavienrosewon8811 Yes, Wonyoung’s China bar sold top 3 in history for album sales but no one made articles about her making history😒. She brings in so many fans from all her hard work just to be branded a spoiled brat.
@@babyanie4673 well the dives should being careful with wonyoung stans and should support more her cause she is only member Who can bring true money in this group I remember the chinese wonyoung stans said they were happy than wonyoung get screentime and lines also they buy many the albums (this marketing of starship)
To be honest if starship is lying anout their ive’s ages i’m concerned for leeseo. because if they changed her birth year (for example from 2004 to 2007) just to make her appear younger than thats really messed up because she went through so much unnecessary hate because of her age.. Guys i know that leeseo is an actual middle school, this is just a prediction and i’m pretty sure starship doesn’t fake ages anymore!
Pretty disturbing that the company who manages them treats them like dolls and play things. Hopefully 10-15 years from now they'll be okay, the amount of stress, anxiety etc, they're experiencing at a young age will definitely take a on toll on them in their later adult years. Take for examples the Disney child stars, some of them managed to escape from Disney, some of them went cuckoo from the stress, trauma abuse etc. they experience from their past work. Wishing them the best, they're talented and overall a great group.
@@casualsuede she wasn't a disney star, she was a pop singer/idol. She's been in the industry ever since she was a little girl where the public constantly demonized her when she wasn't in her perfect image, i can see why she went crazy but im glad she seems to be doing okay now and she's freed.
no literally, she got so much unnecessary hate over her eating a strawberry??? everything she does always gets nitpicked and is blown out of proportion :/ like damn let her breathe, live, and just exist peacefully (sorry for the rant 😭)
i am so happy that love dive was successful but wonyoungs hate is going TOO FAR… if they hate her for let’s just say her outfits it’s crazy cuz it’s not her fault as she didn’t choose the outfits… but some of the things are too much… just FOR EATING A GODDAMN STRAWBERRY WITH 2 HANDS WHATTT?! Because she was “too cute”, pick me for eating that strawberry? Another one FOR MAKING A STRUGGLING FACE WHEN SHE CANT OPEN THE CHIP BAF WHICH IS NORMAL AND PPL SAY ITS “Typical Pick Me behaviour” like wonyoun is not s
Idols swearing, looking like a mess, being angry, dating in public etc should all be NORMALIZED. They’re literally _human_ so idk why knetz and companies expect them to be robots, it’s actually insane. We all have a different view of what ‘perfect’ is to us, so idk why companies try so damn hard to push that kind of image for their groups.
Swearing is normal I think.. at least in the boy groups... they just censor it or stop themselves and idols themselves say that I was about to swear and all and it's just funny. And normalising it doesn't mean allowing them to swear in public. Like us ordinary people are also taught not to swear in front of people because it's rude. We can cuss among friends as much as we want and I believe the idols do it too... so the not swearing part isn't really weird or bad. In my opinion that is..
it’s not just knetz. not you singling out knetz as if ifans aren’t the worst hypocrites ever known to man. most of the wonyoung hate came from international kpop stans who are jealous of her and feel threatened by her, especially when she gets too close to their oppars.
@@yuyugiji3017 oh yeah ofc, I’m not saying they should go around and swear at everyone they come across. But if they accidentally swear, it shouldn’t be a big deal. Everyone does it lol
@@kyooongie if “fans” are hating on a member then they’re not fans, simple. And I like how you made this only about Wonyoung when I was talking about how all idols deserving to live like a human? IVE isn’t that known internationally, so yes my point still stands, knetz _and_ companies are part of the problem too.
These idols go through a lot to make it to the big time but they are naturally talented and they deserve respect, not treated bad by anyone. The industry they are in can be exploitative with shady ppl so I hope they are being well protected now
yeah right, this is probably because kpop has set a really high standard in everyone's eyes with the "kpop is different" comment and therefore the companies are trying to keep this standard and make it even higher. we should accept the fact the kpop is too toxic and negative behind the camera:(
Idols shouldn't have to be perfect. The should be allowed to be themselves without getting any hate. Poor Wonyoung has to suffer from hate every single day even if she's just breathing. And the selfie lessons are just ridiculous. These idols, not only IVE, work so hard to be "perfect" and yet, they STILL get hate. I'm sure that they joined the companies to have fun but extreme diets, d3@th thr3@ts, sasaengs, etc are not fun at all.
Actually i seen psychic said wonyoung is still herself sweetheart n old soul now she is scared of speak up on her own opinions cause there re People mocked her and cyberbullying her with tiktok evil edits and contents debunked of yt when she is re-debut as ive member and mc with sunghoon. The person said starship management should stop put wonyoung spotlight ,wonyoung didn't enjoy being center of all attention with their tactic I should said wonyoung was overanalysed since age of 14 years old for winner pd48 against sakura . The People had make bad rumors and had start critized her for nothing just jealousy for her beauty and success in period izone . The psychic revealed wonyoung did suffer anxiety and overworked, She deserve all support cause wonyoung is strong mind and role model in futur The link of reading :ua-cam.com/video/2S9vfpPTU4I/v-deo.html
@@its_peytato_season wonyoung is really loyal with her company She is naive of believe starship ,she should did better without their stupid marketing things Wonyoung wish mzking her fans happiness ,the psychic said that
Imagine being 17 and getting this much hate! That's what it's like for Wonyoung. Literally everything she does is criticized. She seems exhausted and the spark and light she used to have is gone. Also, if (and it's a big if) she is Taiwanese, so what? Tzuyu, Shuhua, and YangYang are all Taiwanese and have really successful careers.
There’s a rumour she’s Taiwanese? Although now that you mention it I haven’t seen the surname Jang in Korea too often (and Korea doesn’t have a ton of surnames).
None of these requirements seem severe aside from them possibly lieing. Tiktok classes and selfie classes actually make total sense to me if I were in the spotlight, and pretty practical for anyone that's actually held down a job. Also I feel like a lot of these things are more for the girls benefit than in anyway harmful, knowing how insanely critical and ridiculous knetz behave.
@@leyanamze09 yea ideally they should, but when do you honestly think that's going to happen? Pluss taking tiktok classes and selfies classes isn't going to change or hurt the girls. the lieing is whole other thing, but that was all speculation wo proof on the youtubers part, neither yujin or wonyoung ever mentioned that unlike the classes.
I totally agree with that suga/hobi comparison!! Yoongi was very portrayed like a savage and too introverted person but it's very easy to see that he's very outgoing and nice. And for hobi the same, he is potrayed like a very energetic person that is always happy but in fact I see J-Hope as an introverted and calm guy.
I thought it's confirmed Wonyoung has some type of Chinese ancestry?? I remember reading something like that on her wikipedia page (had no idea she could be Taiwanese though) and that either her father or grandad own a Chinese restaurant in SK? But either way the last thing she needs is xenophobia or for her existence to be politicized :(
Starship didnt confirmed that I think they wish than less knetizens know that ,i know there re knetizens believe the rimors but they re fine with that after others mocked wonyoung's nationality Chinese market prefer no taiwanese nationalist cause politic even many Chinese People call chan zhang yuanzing as her name idol here
Look, I've been following all members ever since Produce 48, during IZONE and definitely afterwards. I have absolutely no hate towards any of them, not even when Minju decided to forgo being an idol in favor of being an actress or even Hyewon who, by the way, seems to be absolutely living her best life mainly being a UA-camr. I do admit that I've kinda been ignoring the criticism raised towards. The genuine ones, not the hate which is just so.... ugh. I'm kinda rambling here. Even if Wonyoung is faking or is told to fake some aspects of her, I suggest everyone who wants to hate to go through the literal years of content, comments from people who worked with her or even, God forbid, spend a bit of time actually watching her and her content and tell me, what she has EVER done that warrants this treatment. Direct your (not you you and this video) criticism towards the company, not the girls. They have done nothing wrong and are indeed the victims. The latest episode of Wonyojng having to go to Music Bank and then literally having to get on a plane to Germany the next day is a prime example. Edit: it's worse. She goes directly from Music Bank to the airport, otherwise there's no possible way that she'd make it.
This channel always lowkey hqtes idols. She always make it looks like she’s saying a good thing but then says “BUT” and then a negative opinion comes out. This is what we call passive aggressive people behavior. I’m losing my respect to this channel every time she says a badword towards IVE. Smh 😒
Hum if you re wizone you know wonyoung is optimist person ,she didnt think she did faked her personality cause her predebut pics is natural cute lovely ,i didnt denied starship did overworked wonyoung, she did suffer of lost weight and look tired like she get much busy schedules compared many idold og 4gen The staffs said wonyoung is kind sweet polite, her clame said wonyoung is calm person We know she is hardworker n trying being positive
"She's faking being cute" Bro she always act super cute since she was on Produce 48, In fact I think she's probably actually trying to act LESS cute now and more composed. But geez she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. Leave her alone.
@@yasminchan7425 wgeb dud u sat that is big and successful one? among the kpop companies starship is one of the best if we talk abt freedom or their artists
i am so happy that love dive was successful but wonyoungs hate is going TOO FAR… if they hate her for let’s just say her outfits it’s crazy cuz it’s not her fault as she didn’t choose the outfits… but some of the things are too much… just FOR EATING A GODDAMN STRAWBERRY WITH 2 HANDS WHATTT?! Because she was “too cute”, pick me for eating that strawberry? Another one FOR MAKING A STRUGGLING FACE WHEN SHE CANT OPEN THE CHIP BAF WHICH IS NORMAL AND PPL SAY ITS “Typical Pick Me behaviour” like wonyoung is natuarally like that she can’t control it… i hope the hate does not affect her too much tho… starship is one of the strictest companies ever… they are quite cruel too… forcing their idols to work even tho they are super sick… like when rei was not feeling well she was still forced to dance…
@hello that’s true… but i think wonyoung is cute naturally… like the face she makes if she can’t open the bag of chips i don’t think it was intentional…
@hello I don't think you know what a pick me is, a pick me is someone who puts down other women for male validation. Wonyoung has never done this. I'm pretty sure her acting cute is just fanservice since that's kind of part of the idol job tbh, all idols have an image they need to uphold unfortunately.
@hello It's the fact fans are using the term pick me and DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING. Nothing Wonyoung has done or anything others have claimed is pick me behavior. I wish kpop fans just stayed off Black Twitter and stop misusing terms.
I suspect that Starship is trying to make IVE the next big girlgroup. They have 2 comebacks and the group is still only a few months old. Wonyoung even said that they will have a summer comeback. They're being overworked like Twice is, and they're also following strict rules, like Blackpink.
I just wish to see the real personalities of idols. As fans, we should love them for their real self and as people they should be able to be themselves.
People are psychotic that they are accusing Wonyoung about faking her personality when she has been in the public eye from PD48 to IVE for over 4 years....there is no way a 13 year old could have maintained that. Wonyoung's rumors started from people confusing her Korean passport for Taiwan and it is driving me crazy they keep talking about it. Wonyoung has kept silent about her family her entire career which is wise. Also your video is unnecessarily negative towards her by specifically quoting a hater talking about her.
The funny thing about the TikTok one is that personally, and also overall, kpop idol tiktoks that aren’t super professional tend to go more viral than those that are set up. Like keeho, felix and some of yeonjun’s.
girl what are u 5? they are a product that is going to be sold to the public, the public what a certain thing so they are going to try to fill that demand. and they are very much far away from being perfect, nobody is
@@Fbaaaas i'm not saying they are product but u must acknowledge that they don't present themself as such, they present themself as this perfect product blank enough for their consumer to project onto them their morals, in fact when said idol doesn't respect the expectation everything fall down
i love wonyoung. i think she's naturally cute but if she is "pretending" i still don't see a problem with that; everyone who judges her would probably exaggerate their own personalities if they were idols, that's just how it works, it catches people's attention (and that's very needed in the kpop industry).
It's reasonable to take selfie or tiktok lessons to improve i mean i sometimes have to take 50 photos to get the right photo .idols don't have time for this they should know how to take best pose as quick as possible.
Ok this makes me think that Sometimes idols don't show their true personality and can also be fake im not attacking ive , I respect idols like Jessi , all mamamoo members,hyuna,etc.. for showing their true selves and not caring haters.
Ive are beautiful talented Singers dancers Vocalists and Preformers but unfortunately the company are putting unrealistic expectations and Standards for these young women to follow in order to debut. Their company really just needs to be supported of these girls and their budding careers in the K-pop music industry
Sad how they have to take behavioral issues before debut and yet Wonyoung still gets accused of having an attitude for simply breathing. Being a female idol is so tough they even have to accept “evaluations” aka criticism over something as minuscule as selfies. The pressure and expectations they face makes me so sad to think about.
@@florvis2329 barely Taiwanese? She’s half Taiwanese 💀💀‼️😭 if her dads tai and her moms Korean. She’s half Korean and Taiwanese. She just favors her Korean side more. Just because you can’t see it physically does not mean she isn’t Taiwanese ☝️
@@nyarix4838 why do you sound so mad? when I searched it up it said she was 1/4 taiwanese. Plus I don't think it's confirmed so you can calm down okay??
Something I really hate about the ‘it girl’ conundrum is that it manifests into an unhealthy lifestyle that is otherwise Inhuman. To keep up her status, Wooyoung is both made and feels like she has to eat cutely, look perfect all the time (posing, facial expressions, clothing) and sometimes she can’t even be herself because she’ll get hated for it. Don’t get me wrong, she’s goregous, but she’s also human, and the ‘it girl’ ideal is just another weird way to pit women against each other and force weird patriarchal standards on someone in the spotlight, In hopes other girls will follow. (It also just creates more issues for young girls) Wonyoung is a teenage girl with feelings and problems, when will it be okay for her to just be a girl, and not have IT before it.
They have manners class but they don’t have a class on things that are usually problematic among kpop star like cultural appropriation and racism! That don’t make sense to me
There is a big minus of this rules.. too strict means the idols charms are going to be flat........... Just look at chaewon and sakura of lesserafim (I mention them because they are former of izon like wonyoung) they still a true comedian.... Starship.. you are just too freakin strict
Leeseo was born in 2007, I have a friend who moved from Korea to my country and she got really excited telling me about how her little brother's friend in in Leeseo's class lol
tbh I can see that Kpop as an industry realized that people does not see these celebs & idols as humans, but as icons. I believed part of the reason Kpop become so popular & mainstream is because of idols' perfect image, something that Hollywood seemed to be lacking recently. even tho it sounded extreme, I understand all the classes to create the "perfect" idol & icon. HOWEVER, the problem with Kpop is that for whatever reason they LOVE debuting young kids. like literal kids. in the long run, these unnecessary pressure to look & act perfect 24 hour will surely affect these teenagers who are still developing their self esteem and worldview. I pray all these people have strong support system behind them. it's heartbreaking to see people losing their battle with mental issues
Tzuyu is a known fully Taiwanese idol and she’s arguably one of the most famous members of Twice and that was even after her flag scandal. So I just don’t understand why they would want to lie about Wonyoung’s nationality even with the issues between SoKor and China.
@UC9HidtuUbUjA2OybtM6yhSg but this is saying Wonyoung is half Korean and half Taiwanese so even though that is the case, it still makes no sense for Starship to lie about her nationality
What i find alarming is someone getting EXPOSED as their own nationality!! No one in this world should ever feel 'exposed' when it comes to their Nationality. I just feel so sad hearing about this toxicity among the South East Asian community.
"Well unless it's wonyoung cause that girl will get called a diva for even existing and breathing" I died when you she said this cause it is so true. LOL.
Nah they don't owe you their private authentic self and the fact that most of the idols now are super young, them having a public persona helps them create a distance between the one getting criticized/hated and themselves which can be helpful for them.
This gives me a lot of Twice vibes .. the girls had such a jam packed schedule and made soo many mvs… the members of IVE only debuted in Dec 2021 and already made 2 mvs and 2 recorded songs.. it doesn’t sound like a lot but it is cause they have tot do soo much for one mv and poor Wonyoung she gets soo much controversy with her attitude and how Starship treats her better then the rest (Ik Yujin is treated a bit like Wonyoung but idk if got lots of controversy ofc she must have but idk) but she ofc doesn’t want to be treated better , these girls are only teens not even 20 and I’m wondering how Leeseo manages her schedule especially since she has school and still goes especially being in 9th or 10th grade it’s hard for her , I think a lot of idols dropped out but I feel bad for Leeseo she’s only 14 and should be living her life and so does the others of the group
If the companies gonna apply this strict rule to the upcoming 5th generation also, I really gonna leave k-pop or to wish to destroy this k-pop industry cause I don't wanna stan any robot or a puppet it's scares me. After going through this much and one day they take thier lives wow a big sin for me because I support k-pop.
I would suggest you take some rest from this kind of videos about korean entertainment training system or leave kpop right now if the stated above is your reason, because this is what ALL groups has been through, not one single group are excepted, from over 14 years ago until now
What the f is this, you literally twisting the mean of all of this classes and how the member speaks about it as a “mandatory” “bad” “needed to be addressed topic”
Wonyoung gets so much hate because she is so manufactured! That poor girl must have so many issues. She’s sexualized, completely, and has been since produce 48. Did anyone else see side to side?? And yeah, I’ve seen videos of her just EATING and the media is like “ooooo, ahhhhh”. It’s creepy. She’s just doing what she feels she needs to to survive. Terrible
They are humans, not dolls! I don't understand this company. Their job is to sing and dance, not to look perfect. Even with diet. This ugly company is trying to make them look thinner when that is not even healthy for them. I feel bad for Wonyoung, she is being pushed more to have a fake personality and to look "perfect". She is pretty but that shouldn't be the concentration bc that is what it seems like. I hope in a couple of years, they have more freedom to do what they want.
I've been a fan of Wonyoung since 2019 and read somewhere that Wonyoung is actually half Taiwanese. I also saw her speaking chinese once. I think it was in a concert vlog, I guess it was izone's eyes on me concert behind video. I don't mind idols' private lifes or anything, but what is the point of Starship not revealing Wonyoung's nationality?
The selfie, manners and tiktok class doesn't sound that crazy to me. I think I'd appreciate it if I were an idol. As for the manufactured characters, no one can really tell for sure anyway, so I don't worry.
I dont think so. If you follow their interview's wonyoung once joked that she ran out of company when they told her she would be debuting with a 07 liner. And honestly, the girls didnt look that close during eleven era. Its in love dive era that they looked so much comfortable. But considering the fact that the group was partially built around wonyoung and yujin, mabey they had a say.
@@kadyll1396 Yeah, I remember Wonyoung explaining to Lee YoungJi about the time she heard she was debuting with a 14 year old. But I gotta disagree with you when you said they didn't look all that close. They do look closer now but imo, with the 5 months they were together, I think they warmed up to each other but this is just my perspective on it. I, however, do not think that Wonyoung and/or Yujin had a say in picking who debuted with them because the said trainee had to be qualified enough to debut.
Yep I knew a lot of strict rules in kpop industry and but seventeen doesn't have that really strict rules (of course they have but they don't really strict to certain level comparing to ive) that makes them a natural comdedian I think swear its okey on the right times
Seriously this is ridiculous after knowing what some other idols had to endure to debut. Especially Seventeen if you think this is bad I suggest watching Seventeen Project to see what they had to go through to debut.
the industry wants money and they show us perfect people so we would want to be idols too that will give them money but idols live the worst life -they don't even have a life-
Gurl what's wrong with being Chinese and Taiwanese??? Race shouldn't define the members and being Taiwanese or Chinese doesn't make u any less talented and hard worker and good person. The behaviour is defined by person not race. I really hate rasicm.
But like, isnt it a good thing? Like selfies and tiktok are kinda big things and if u told an idol a way to get more popular, wouldnt they want to access to it? I mean, they obviously dont do it only for the attention, but lets get real, they have to live off it. I mean, if i were an idol, i would take these classes, after all the trainee life has much worse in it, this is little to nothing if u compare to other stuff
whats wrong if wonyoungs taiwanese? i'm sorry i don't understand. some of the most famous idols are chinese, why would people hate on her because she's taiwanese?
"Selfie classes"? I've never heard of that before I mean they sound weird to me but I guess the selfie and tiktok classes aren't bad and I understand why they have to be well mannered blah blah blah, but I don't like how they almost get treated like toddlers
P1Harmony had to take 5 selfies a day for FNC Ent. I also thought it was interesting that idols had selfie classes. It makes sense since idols are expected not to ever make mistakes.
In 2:04 it said “ I doubt any company would ever debut traines who don’t behave properly” well they thought wrong cause Yujins and Wonyoungs old company hype debut Kim GARAM
It's pretty disturbing how companies make there idols as perfect as they could be. Like Itzy if I'm not mistaken also took posing and walking lessons from a well known model company of sumtin
Last part is scary 🥲 like imagine if last part actually come true she literally getting hate for international and loved by Koreans but if she turn out to be Taiwanese knetz might ate her like let's not forget what happened to ningning for congratulating her country 💀🤌🏻 Koreans are sensitive for no reason
Wonyoung has been through many things and she is a foreigner (half) so i can't imagine how many hate she has. But quick fact : Her Father isn't fully Korean, he is mixed race too (i don't remember where i saw this)
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So sad how idols always have to put up with having a “perfect” persona and even if they make the smallest mistake or a misunderstanding they get the worst hate for it.
The fake birthday it’s crazy too, starship it’s ridiculous.
@@kingolost5153 some do… it’s crazy
Ever see the Knetz? Many of them are crazy and possessive. They are getting this "training" not for Starships benefit but so they don't get cancelled.
@@casualsuede Yeah I know that but I feel like it’s worse to put up a fake persona that would end up worse if found out you know? And yes they are crazy honestly.
@@lluvialeon7720 this is why l stan sm artist even though they have made mistakes in life, they are being themselves
I feel so bad for Wonyoung… she seemed so much happier in iz*one. It’s like she was forced to grow up WAY too fast. She’s just 17… I cannot even imagine how much all the hate affects her mentally
i bet she regrets debuting in this starshit company
I know how you feel, just look at cahewon and sakura in leeserafim, despite of strict the rules of being idol, they can be a comedian when they all are talking together, I think wonyoung doesn't get that freedom as much as before
@@luckyadrian100 She does but ever since the hate, she’s changed but I’m glad she’s turning back to who she is
i mean considering how much unnecessary hate she's getting no wonder she's exhausted and changed
She gets hate for literally everything, I don't blame her for keeping it quiet & just doing her job (fanservice, photoshoots, brand deals, etc). Like she got hate for eating a strawberry cutely, as if playing it up for the cameras isn't literally part of being an idol...? I'm sure behind the scenes she's playful with her members, I mean we can see it in some of their vlogs anyway. But it's clear she's not as happy as she was in IZ*ONE, I think there being less members & her not being the maknae anymore made her feel like she had to grow up- plus, she's becoming a huge name in kpop right now, so that's probably not helping either.
The biggest thing I worry about with I’VE is how jammed-packed their schedules are. Especially Wonyoung, even today she has mubank and then immediately has to prepare to go to Germany for two days to perform. And then has come right to Korea to work again. Even when fans ask her how her sleeping schedule has been she says “It’s better if you don't know.” It's scary because even the members said she won't share her struggles with them. Wonyoung will just work without ever complaining. Plus She already confirmed I’VE is having a summer comeback. They worked on “Love Dive” in February so I wouldn't be surprised if the song and Choreography for the new come back is already finished or close to it. On top of all the girls having individual activities, frequent comebacks and constant work with no breaks is bad for the member's health. None of them are even 20 yet. I can honestly see I’VE being overworked throughout their careers.
Wonyoung is really overworked of this 4gen
Like she is ambassadors of 4 huge brands(miu miu, kirsh global,innisfree global and chaulet Jewry )and highschooler
She deserve all the respect for her cfans buy 98k sales for love dive (she is money marker)
@@lavienrosewon8811 Yes, Wonyoung’s China bar sold top 3 in history for album sales but no one made articles about her making history😒. She brings in so many fans from all her hard work just to be branded a spoiled brat.
@@babyanie4673 well the dives should being careful with wonyoung stans and should support more her cause she is only member Who can bring true money in this group
I remember the chinese wonyoung stans said they were happy than wonyoung get screentime and lines also they buy many the albums (this marketing of starship)
Where did she say that about her sleep schedule?
@@mahamqasim8871 On a fan call
To be honest if starship is lying anout their ive’s ages i’m concerned for leeseo. because if they changed her birth year (for example from 2004 to 2007) just to make her appear younger than thats really messed up because she went through so much unnecessary hate because of her age..
Guys i know that leeseo is an actual middle school, this is just a prediction and i’m pretty sure starship doesn’t fake ages anymore!
pretty sure leeseo is around 15-16 years old because her look and she's still going to school
Yeah plus she used to model for sm kids so I think her info is pretty public
leeseo was fs born in 2007 lol
@@margaretofscotland4707 yeah, it was just a prediction shes probably 15
@@tharangafernando2691 yup
Pretty disturbing that the company who manages them treats them like dolls and play things. Hopefully 10-15 years from now they'll be okay, the amount of stress, anxiety etc, they're experiencing at a young age will definitely take a on toll on them in their later adult years. Take for examples the Disney child stars, some of them managed to escape from Disney, some of them went cuckoo from the stress, trauma abuse etc. they experience from their past work. Wishing them the best, they're talented and overall a great group.
Which were the ones that went crazy?
@@bbang883 Britney Spears.
OMG THISSSS-- I always keep on thinking as kpop as the asian popstar equivalent to disney channel, while entertaining, it can be quite damaging...
@@casualsuede she wasn't a disney star, she was a pop singer/idol. She's been in the industry ever since she was a little girl where the public constantly demonized her when she wasn't in her perfect image, i can see why she went crazy but im glad she seems to be doing okay now and she's freed.
@@bbang883 she actually was with disney for a while... probably before you were born though
wonyoung gets hated on for EVERYTHING. poor girl. she's so talented and nice
no literally, she got so much unnecessary hate over her eating a strawberry??? everything she does always gets nitpicked and is blown out of proportion :/ like damn let her breathe, live, and just exist peacefully (sorry for the rant 😭)
YES IKR THEY GATE HER FOR GETTING BETTER OUTFITS AND ITS EVEN WOYOUNGS FAULT
@@rianne1111 WHAT THE HECK?! EATING A STRAWBERRY IS HATE WORTHY?- Haters are crazy-
“Exposed for being Taiwanese”?? Now being Taiwanese is something bad that you can be exposed ?? What is wrong with people…
no people are just bitter cuz of their history
i remember when tzuyu got hate and had to issue an apology just for waving the taiwanese flag :(
@@like_grrra Chinese netizens are really crazy…
It is for some Chinese people, and companies don't want to piss off the Chinese market.
@@like_grrra she didnt deserve any of that hate :/
i am so happy that love dive was successful but wonyoungs hate is going TOO FAR… if they hate her for let’s just say her outfits it’s crazy cuz it’s not her fault as she didn’t choose the outfits… but some of the things are too much… just FOR EATING A GODDAMN STRAWBERRY WITH 2 HANDS WHATTT?! Because she was “too cute”, pick me for eating that strawberry? Another one FOR MAKING A STRUGGLING FACE WHEN SHE CANT OPEN THE CHIP BAF WHICH IS NORMAL AND PPL SAY ITS “Typical Pick Me behaviour” like wonyoun is not s
I think it’s because of her facial expressions, I also doubt sometimes if it’s her real manner or she just being thought…
@@Lili-vn6wx the staffs have said that she was very respectful to them tho…
Hey
Meeting u for the 2nd time 😃.
@@binitakhatowal8140 HAHAH I’m in K-pop videos everywhere😭💀 especially Minty sana and kookieliet
@@mentallyunstableavocado They can lie about it, we don’t know actually
Idols swearing, looking like a mess, being angry, dating in public etc should all be NORMALIZED. They’re literally _human_ so idk why knetz and companies expect them to be robots, it’s actually insane. We all have a different view of what ‘perfect’ is to us, so idk why companies try so damn hard to push that kind of image for their groups.
They are nowadays, and it makes me happy
Swearing is normal I think.. at least in the boy groups... they just censor it or stop themselves and idols themselves say that I was about to swear and all and it's just funny.
And normalising it doesn't mean allowing them to swear in public. Like us ordinary people are also taught not to swear in front of people because it's rude. We can cuss among friends as much as we want and I believe the idols do it too... so the not swearing part isn't really weird or bad. In my opinion that is..
it’s not just knetz. not you singling out knetz as if ifans aren’t the worst hypocrites ever known to man. most of the wonyoung hate came from international kpop stans who are jealous of her and feel threatened by her, especially when she gets too close to their oppars.
@@yuyugiji3017 oh yeah ofc, I’m not saying they should go around and swear at everyone they come across. But if they accidentally swear, it shouldn’t be a big deal. Everyone does it lol
@@kyooongie if “fans” are hating on a member then they’re not fans, simple. And I like how you made this only about Wonyoung when I was talking about how all idols deserving to live like a human? IVE isn’t that known internationally, so yes my point still stands, knetz _and_ companies are part of the problem too.
These idols go through a lot to make it to the big time but they are naturally talented and they deserve respect, not treated bad by anyone. The industry they are in can be exploitative with shady ppl so I hope they are being well protected now
Agree !
Well i see you everywhere😺
yeah right, this is probably because kpop has set a really high standard in everyone's eyes with the "kpop is different" comment and therefore the companies are trying to keep this standard and make it even higher. we should accept the fact the kpop is too toxic and negative behind the camera:(
Idols shouldn't have to be perfect. The should be allowed to be themselves without getting any hate. Poor Wonyoung has to suffer from hate every single day even if she's just breathing. And the selfie lessons are just ridiculous. These idols, not only IVE, work so hard to be "perfect" and yet, they STILL get hate. I'm sure that they joined the companies to have fun but extreme diets, d3@th thr3@ts, sasaengs, etc are not fun at all.
Actually i seen psychic said wonyoung is still herself sweetheart n old soul now she is scared of speak up on her own opinions cause there re People mocked her and cyberbullying her with tiktok evil edits and contents debunked of yt when she is re-debut as ive member and mc with sunghoon.
The person said starship management should stop put wonyoung spotlight ,wonyoung didn't enjoy being center of all attention with their tactic
I should said wonyoung was overanalysed since age of 14 years old for winner pd48 against sakura .
The People had make bad rumors and had start critized her for nothing just jealousy for her beauty and success in period izone .
The psychic revealed wonyoung did suffer anxiety and overworked,
She deserve all support cause wonyoung is strong mind and role model in futur
The link of reading :ua-cam.com/video/2S9vfpPTU4I/v-deo.html
@@lavienrosewon8811 Yeah. Wonyoung was still so young when she joined Starship Ent...
@Scorpia ♡ Yeah
@@its_peytato_season wonyoung is really loyal with her company
She is naive of believe starship ,she should did better without their stupid marketing things
Wonyoung wish mzking her fans happiness ,the psychic said that
@@lavienrosewon8811 oh no
Imagine being 17 and getting this much hate! That's what it's like for Wonyoung. Literally everything she does is criticized. She seems exhausted and the spark and light she used to have is gone. Also, if (and it's a big if) she is Taiwanese, so what? Tzuyu, Shuhua, and YangYang are all Taiwanese and have really successful careers.
There’s a rumour she’s Taiwanese?
Although now that you mention it I haven’t seen the surname Jang in Korea too often (and Korea doesn’t have a ton of surnames).
@@jmanig76 You can Google it. Like I said, it’s a rumor.
No, I was just curious. Actually I just noticed cut off on my end for whatever reason before they got to that part. Sorry for the bother.
@@jmanig76 No trouble at all! I always love discussing Kpop! lol
@@jmanig76 Well we have Jang Hyunseung (former Beast member), Jang Dongwoo (Infinite) and Jang Wooyoung (2PM) and all of them are korean.
None of these requirements seem severe aside from them possibly lieing. Tiktok classes and selfie classes actually make total sense to me if I were in the spotlight, and pretty practical for anyone that's actually held down a job. Also I feel like a lot of these things are more for the girls benefit than in anyway harmful, knowing how insanely critical and ridiculous knetz behave.
I agree, the selfie/tiktok classes are actually kind of smart since both are things idols are big on.
Yeah I don't see the big deal this seems ridiculous compared to what some other idol groups had to go through to debut especially Seventeen
Then that knet that need to change not the girls
@@leyanamze09 yea ideally they should, but when do you honestly think that's going to happen? Pluss taking tiktok classes and selfies classes isn't going to change or hurt the girls. the lieing is whole other thing, but that was all speculation wo proof on the youtubers part, neither yujin or wonyoung ever mentioned that unlike the classes.
I think it would also be fun 🌟 It's a way for them to promote their work and connect with fans but it can be fun and light hearted too.
I want to go to selfie classes. I need to take good slefies
Same
Dang me too 😔
You don't trust me
Fr fr
I totally agree with that suga/hobi comparison!! Yoongi was very portrayed like a savage and too introverted person but it's very easy to see that he's very outgoing and nice. And for hobi the same, he is potrayed like a very energetic person that is always happy but in fact I see J-Hope as an introverted and calm guy.
I thought it's confirmed Wonyoung has some type of Chinese ancestry?? I remember reading something like that on her wikipedia page (had no idea she could be Taiwanese though) and that either her father or grandad own a Chinese restaurant in SK? But either way the last thing she needs is xenophobia or for her existence to be politicized :(
Starship didnt confirmed that
I think they wish than less knetizens know that ,i know there re knetizens believe the rimors but they re fine with that after others mocked wonyoung's nationality
Chinese market prefer no taiwanese nationalist cause politic even many Chinese People call chan zhang yuanzing as her name idol here
Probably fake. Because wonyoung was spotted with a Korean passport.
ik i dont get whats the problem with wonyoung being chinese? like that just makes her even more cool
Look, I've been following all members ever since Produce 48, during IZONE and definitely afterwards.
I have absolutely no hate towards any of them, not even when Minju decided to forgo being an idol in favor of being an actress or even Hyewon who, by the way, seems to be absolutely living her best life mainly being a UA-camr.
I do admit that I've kinda been ignoring the criticism raised towards. The genuine ones, not the hate which is just so.... ugh.
I'm kinda rambling here. Even if Wonyoung is faking or is told to fake some aspects of her, I suggest everyone who wants to hate to go through the literal years of content, comments from people who worked with her or even, God forbid, spend a bit of time actually watching her and her content and tell me, what she has EVER done that warrants this treatment.
Direct your (not you you and this video) criticism towards the company, not the girls. They have done nothing wrong and are indeed the victims. The latest episode of Wonyojng having to go to Music Bank and then literally having to get on a plane to Germany the next day is a prime example.
Edit: it's worse. She goes directly from Music Bank to the airport, otherwise there's no possible way that she'd make it.
This channel always lowkey hqtes idols. She always make it looks like she’s saying a good thing but then says “BUT” and then a negative opinion comes out.
This is what we call passive aggressive people behavior. I’m losing my respect to this channel every time she says a badword towards IVE. Smh 😒
Hum if you re wizone you know wonyoung is optimist person ,she didnt think she did faked her personality cause her predebut pics is natural cute lovely ,i didnt denied starship did overworked wonyoung, she did suffer of lost weight and look tired like she get much busy schedules compared many idold og 4gen
The staffs said wonyoung is kind sweet polite, her clame said wonyoung is calm person
We know she is hardworker n trying being positive
Do you have the link for this episode please?
@@aessera they click bait for views too much
"She's faking being cute" Bro she always act super cute since she was on Produce 48, In fact I think she's probably actually trying to act LESS cute now and more composed. But geez she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. Leave her alone.
Look at that :ua-cam.com/video/2S9vfpPTU4I/v-deo.html
Wtf, Star Ship is so strict. They have so many crazy rules. I feel sorry for their idols.
they are one of the best ents.
@@toastpavedtheway A "good" big successful company doesn't exist
@@pennymikk Umh... Learn how to film Tik Tok? Fake birthdays?
@@yasminchan7425 wgeb dud u sat that is big and successful one? among the kpop companies starship is one of the best if we talk abt freedom or their artists
@@toastpavedtheway no starship is known for mistreated and overworked on their idols
i am so happy that love dive was successful but wonyoungs hate is going TOO FAR… if they hate her for let’s just say her outfits it’s crazy cuz it’s not her fault as she didn’t choose the outfits… but some of the things are too much… just FOR EATING A GODDAMN STRAWBERRY WITH 2 HANDS WHATTT?! Because she was “too cute”, pick me for eating that strawberry? Another one FOR MAKING A STRUGGLING FACE WHEN SHE CANT OPEN THE CHIP BAF WHICH IS NORMAL AND PPL SAY ITS “Typical Pick Me behaviour” like wonyoung is natuarally like that she can’t control it… i hope the hate does not affect her too much tho… starship is one of the strictest companies ever… they are quite cruel too… forcing their idols to work even tho they are super sick… like when rei was not feeling well she was still forced to dance…
@hello that’s true… but i think wonyoung is cute naturally… like the face she makes if she can’t open the bag of chips i don’t think it was intentional…
@hello I don't think you know what a pick me is, a pick me is someone who puts down other women for male validation. Wonyoung has never done this. I'm pretty sure her acting cute is just fanservice since that's kind of part of the idol job tbh, all idols have an image they need to uphold unfortunately.
It's nuts how they say she's putting on a cute persona when her personality was even more bubbly and cute before I’VE. 😂
@hello It's the fact fans are using the term pick me and DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING. Nothing Wonyoung has done or anything others have claimed is pick me behavior. I wish kpop fans just stayed off Black Twitter and stop misusing terms.
I suspect that Starship is trying to make IVE the next big girlgroup. They have 2 comebacks and the group is still only a few months old. Wonyoung even said that they will have a summer comeback. They're being overworked like Twice is, and they're also following strict rules, like Blackpink.
I just wish to see the real personalities of idols. As fans, we should love them for their real self and as people they should be able to be themselves.
The companies say otherwise they won't listen to you also it's pointless
@@armyshope The amount of negativity in this comment😂. Never said they’d listen, just saying what we all want.
@@aizzaasen6465 You talk about negativity but you commented a negative comment.
@@moonlightespt3818 Uhh, wanting idols to be able to show their real personalities is negative? Am i missing smth?😂
That can't be or you and others will hate them.
People are psychotic that they are accusing Wonyoung about faking her personality when she has been in the public eye from PD48 to IVE for over 4 years....there is no way a 13 year old could have maintained that. Wonyoung's rumors started from people confusing her Korean passport for Taiwan and it is driving me crazy they keep talking about it. Wonyoung has kept silent about her family her entire career which is wise. Also your video is unnecessarily negative towards her by specifically quoting a hater talking about her.
0:16 selfie classes
2:04 teaching manners
3:16 the tik tok lessons
4:37 fake till you make it
5:52 secret information
Ty
Thanks
The funny thing about the TikTok one is that personally, and also overall, kpop idol tiktoks that aren’t super professional tend to go more viral than those that are set up. Like keeho, felix and some of yeonjun’s.
Why are people so offended? These just make me laugh honestly, the selfies are gorgeous and the TikToks are very funny
People just want a reason to complain, starship is doing good with managing reason 4 and 5 weren’t never even said bye Ive she just added them in
@@kiarracollins6642 Why does she always give fake information?? Oh my lord…
It’s so sad how starship entertainment treats Ive they are perfect the way they are .
girl what are u 5? they are a product that is going to be sold to the public, the public what a certain thing so they are going to try to fill that demand. and they are very much far away from being perfect, nobody is
@@sofypi7493 in my opinion they aren’t a product their humans just like us
@@Fbaaaas i'm not saying they are product but u must acknowledge that they don't present themself as such, they present themself as this perfect product blank enough for their consumer to project onto them their morals, in fact when said idol doesn't respect the expectation everything fall down
1:30 i remember that's why in the kocowa tv show yujin took selfies as soon as she woke up it's sucks but she still looked so beautiful
It seems like y'all forgot that being an idol is a JOB.
so ive took tiktok classes just to learn how to make tiktok video with all those random filters?? I need to have a word with the teacher😭💜
These girls really have potential
tbh I don’t agree with these stupid rules but I’m ngl some of these are pretty useful and could help the trainees in their idol life imo
classes on selfies are very common actually, even p1harmony have talked abt it openly
Wonyoung is so pretty 😍
In my opinion she is more cute than pretty
I don't think these lessons are that crazy. Media training and learning to pose for photos are very common.
i love wonyoung. i think she's naturally cute but if she is "pretending" i still don't see a problem with that; everyone who judges her would probably exaggerate their own personalities if they were idols, that's just how it works, it catches people's attention (and that's very needed in the kpop industry).
im pretty sure she is pretending but wonyoung is still cute
It’s crazy how some people think idols are living the dream :(
It's reasonable to take selfie or tiktok lessons to improve i mean i sometimes have to take 50 photos to get the right photo .idols don't have time for this they should know how to take best pose as quick as possible.
Ok this makes me think that Sometimes idols don't show their true personality and can also be fake im not attacking ive , I respect idols like Jessi , all mamamoo members,hyuna,etc.. for showing their true selves and not caring haters.
Ive are beautiful talented Singers dancers Vocalists and Preformers but unfortunately the company are putting unrealistic expectations and Standards for these young women to follow in order to debut. Their company really just needs to be supported of these girls and their budding careers in the K-pop music industry
Sad how they have to take behavioral issues before debut and yet Wonyoung still gets accused of having an attitude for simply breathing. Being a female idol is so tough they even have to accept “evaluations” aka criticism over something as minuscule as selfies. The pressure and expectations they face makes me so sad to think about.
It’s sad that they would get picked on for the smallest things. It sucks how idols have to portray the Perfect image 24/7.
I need some damn selfie lessons myself 😢😂😂😂
The craziest thing I’ve has to do post debut is deal with Netizen’s
Why does it matter if she is taiwanese? Tzuyu is fully tai and everyone loves her. She’s always named the most prettiest face in Korea.
wonyoung is barely taiwanese.
@@florvis2329 barely Taiwanese? She’s half Taiwanese 💀💀‼️😭 if her dads tai and her moms Korean. She’s half Korean and Taiwanese. She just favors her Korean side more. Just because you can’t see it physically does not mean she isn’t Taiwanese ☝️
@@nyarix4838 why do you sound so mad? when I searched it up it said she was 1/4 taiwanese. Plus I don't think it's confirmed so you can calm down okay??
@@nyarix4838 She's full Korean. The Taiwanese thing is fake news.
@@florvis2329 I wasn’t even mad. You read it that way lol. No where in there did I say anything smart or angry. I just explained what the video said.
Something I really hate about the ‘it girl’ conundrum is that it manifests into an unhealthy lifestyle that is otherwise Inhuman. To keep up her status, Wooyoung is both made and feels like she has to eat cutely, look perfect all the time (posing, facial expressions, clothing) and sometimes she can’t even be herself because she’ll get hated for it.
Don’t get me wrong, she’s goregous, but she’s also human, and the ‘it girl’ ideal is just another weird way to pit women against each other and force weird patriarchal standards on someone in the spotlight, In hopes other girls will follow. (It also just creates more issues for young girls) Wonyoung is a teenage girl with feelings and problems, when will it be okay for her to just be a girl, and not have IT before it.
I don’t think so… people just love to exaggerate, Wonyoung has always been eating like that if you have been a fan of her since IZ*ONE
You had me there mate till you mentioned the patriarchy😂 after that it was just waffling
They are working hard , playing with good strategy and winning in this industry ❤️
Big respect to *MONSTER ROOKIES IVE* 👸🏻
They have manners class but they don’t have a class on things that are usually problematic among kpop star like cultural appropriation and racism! That don’t make sense to me
I wish someone give me these lessons specially taking pictures and how to pose
Why... Become a model then
There is a big minus of this rules.. too strict means the idols charms are going to be flat...........
Just look at chaewon and sakura of lesserafim (I mention them because they are former of izon like wonyoung) they still a true comedian....
Starship.. you are just too freakin strict
Leeseo was born in 2007, I have a friend who moved from Korea to my country and she got really excited telling me about how her little brother's friend in in Leeseo's class lol
Taiwan isn't China. I'm sure this is a well-known fact.
Apparently the author of the video doesn't know that LOL
thats why ive's tiktok is full of effects 😭
tbh I can see that Kpop as an industry realized that people does not see these celebs & idols as humans, but as icons. I believed part of the reason Kpop become so popular & mainstream is because of idols' perfect image, something that Hollywood seemed to be lacking recently. even tho it sounded extreme, I understand all the classes to create the "perfect" idol & icon. HOWEVER, the problem with Kpop is that for whatever reason they LOVE debuting young kids. like literal kids. in the long run, these unnecessary pressure to look & act perfect 24 hour will surely affect these teenagers who are still developing their self esteem and worldview. I pray all these people have strong support system behind them. it's heartbreaking to see people losing their battle with mental issues
Tzuyu is a known fully Taiwanese idol and she’s arguably one of the most famous members of Twice and that was even after her flag scandal. So I just don’t understand why they would want to lie about Wonyoung’s nationality even with the issues between SoKor and China.
@UC9HidtuUbUjA2OybtM6yhSg but this is saying Wonyoung is half Korean and half Taiwanese so even though that is the case, it still makes no sense for Starship to lie about her nationality
What i find alarming is someone getting EXPOSED as their own nationality!! No one in this world should ever feel 'exposed' when it comes to their Nationality. I just feel so sad hearing about this toxicity among the South East Asian community.
"Well unless it's wonyoung cause that girl will get called a diva for even existing and breathing" I died when you she said this cause it is so true. LOL.
I was thinking that i was only one who thought, Wonyoung is quiet fake. NO hate but hope she won't be "forced" to fake her personality IF she does.
Newsflash: a lot of idols are fake.
I guess i'm the only one who is thinking that Yujin is fake. Like I like her but I think she tries too hard or something.
Nah they don't owe you their private authentic self and the fact that most of the idols now are super young, them having a public persona helps them create a distance between the one getting criticized/hated and themselves which can be helpful for them.
This gives me a lot of Twice vibes .. the girls had such a jam packed schedule and made soo many mvs… the members of IVE only debuted in Dec 2021 and already made 2 mvs and 2 recorded songs.. it doesn’t sound like a lot but it is cause they have tot do soo much for one mv and poor Wonyoung she gets soo much controversy with her attitude and how Starship treats her better then the rest (Ik Yujin is treated a bit like Wonyoung but idk if got lots of controversy ofc she must have but idk) but she ofc doesn’t want to be treated better , these girls are only teens not even 20 and I’m wondering how Leeseo manages her schedule especially since she has school and still goes especially being in 9th or 10th grade it’s hard for her , I think a lot of idols dropped out but I feel bad for Leeseo she’s only 14 and should be living her life and so does the others of the group
If the companies gonna apply this strict rule to the upcoming 5th generation also, I really gonna leave k-pop or to wish to destroy this k-pop industry cause I don't wanna stan any robot or a puppet it's scares me. After going through this much and one day they take thier lives wow a big sin for me because I support k-pop.
I would suggest you take some rest from this kind of videos about korean entertainment training system or leave kpop right now if the stated above is your reason, because this is what ALL groups has been through, not one single group are excepted, from over 14 years ago until now
It’s just sad how the world is so judgmental…idols now are being treated like some robots to be “perfect”..:(
Actually Starship Entertainment rank no. 1 the way how great they manage their Idol and staff among survey in all Koreans.
"though i doubt any companys would ever debut trainees who dont behave properly"
*cough* *cough* garam....
Who tf is getting paid to teach ppl how to take selfies and film/ edit tiktoks 😭😭
Taking selfie classes!??!!??!?! Bro what the fck?!?!
Is starship ok?
What the f is this, you literally twisting the mean of all of this classes and how the member speaks about it as a “mandatory” “bad” “needed to be addressed topic”
Wonyoung gets so much hate because she is so manufactured! That poor girl must have so many issues. She’s sexualized, completely, and has been since produce 48. Did anyone else see side to side?? And yeah, I’ve seen videos of her just EATING and the media is like “ooooo, ahhhhh”. It’s creepy. She’s just doing what she feels she needs to to survive. Terrible
They are humans, not dolls! I don't understand this company. Their job is to sing and dance, not to look perfect. Even with diet. This ugly company is trying to make them look thinner when that is not even healthy for them. I feel bad for Wonyoung, she is being pushed more to have a fake personality and to look "perfect". She is pretty but that shouldn't be the concentration bc that is what it seems like. I hope in a couple of years, they have more freedom to do what they want.
😂 Starshit it’s getting lower and lower.
Oohh that's why all of the Starship Ent Artists are rarely have a attitude scandal
Starship : No swearing
JEsSi : hi
I've been a fan of Wonyoung since 2019 and read somewhere that Wonyoung is actually half Taiwanese. I also saw her speaking chinese once. I think it was in a concert vlog, I guess it was izone's eyes on me concert behind video. I don't mind idols' private lifes or anything, but what is the point of Starship not revealing Wonyoung's nationality?
The selfie, manners and tiktok class doesn't sound that crazy to me. I think I'd appreciate it if I were an idol.
As for the manufactured characters, no one can really tell for sure anyway, so I don't worry.
Hmmmm I wonder if Wonyoung and Yujin had a hand in picking group members
I dont think so. If you follow their interview's wonyoung once joked that she ran out of company when they told her she would be debuting with a 07 liner. And honestly, the girls didnt look that close during eleven era. Its in love dive era that they looked so much comfortable.
But considering the fact that the group was partially built around wonyoung and yujin, mabey they had a say.
@@kadyll1396 Yeah, I remember Wonyoung explaining to Lee YoungJi about the time she heard she was debuting with a 14 year old. But I gotta disagree with you when you said they didn't look all that close. They do look closer now but imo, with the 5 months they were together, I think they warmed up to each other but this is just my perspective on it. I, however, do not think that Wonyoung and/or Yujin had a say in picking who debuted with them because the said trainee had to be qualified enough to debut.
Yep I knew a lot of strict rules in kpop industry and but seventeen doesn't have that really strict rules (of course they have but they don't really strict to certain level comparing to ive) that makes them a natural comdedian
I think swear its okey on the right times
Seriously this is ridiculous after knowing what some other idols had to endure to debut. Especially Seventeen if you think this is bad I suggest watching Seventeen Project to see what they had to go through to debut.
the industry wants money and they show us perfect people so we would want to be idols too that will give them money but idols live the worst life -they don't even have a life-
I need that selfie lesson hahaha...
Fake it till you make it is one of the things that fans can't swallow 😂😂😂
SO THAT'S WHY IVE TIKTOK VIDEOS WERE LIKE A TRIAL OF ALL THE FILTERS U CAN POSIBBLY ADD?😭 They edit it themselves?!
Gurl what's wrong with being Chinese and Taiwanese??? Race shouldn't define the members and being Taiwanese or Chinese doesn't make u any less talented and hard worker and good person. The behaviour is defined by person not race. I really hate rasicm.
But like, isnt it a good thing? Like selfies and tiktok are kinda big things and if u told an idol a way to get more popular, wouldnt they want to access to it?
I mean, they obviously dont do it only for the attention, but lets get real, they have to live off it.
I mean, if i were an idol, i would take these classes, after all the trainee life has much worse in it, this is little to nothing if u compare to other stuff
Wonyoung's father is Korean but moved to Taiwan but his mother is half taiwanese half Korean.
whats wrong if wonyoungs taiwanese? i'm sorry i don't understand. some of the most famous idols are chinese, why would people hate on her because she's taiwanese?
Not just ive. Even p1harmony were been trained to take selfies.
This is the most disturbing thing i've ever watched, Starship is gonna overwork them to death and they're not even 20 yrs old yet....none of them.
"Selfie classes"? I've never heard of that before
I mean they sound weird to me but I guess the selfie and tiktok classes aren't bad and I understand why they have to be well mannered blah blah blah, but I don't like how they almost get treated like toddlers
You teach them manners but not to teach them what’s racist and what’s not. Yeah okay 🙄
Companies getting dumber but at the same time not
I like IVE but not wonyoung
P1Harmony had to take 5 selfies a day for FNC Ent. I also thought it was interesting that idols had selfie classes. It makes sense since idols are expected not to ever make mistakes.
Okay um this is just horrible and selfie lessons? Seriously? The only person here in this world that needs selfie lessons is me and I'm serious😤
If starship reveals that wonyoung is half taiwanese that would make haters have more reasons to hate on her 💀
Damn, I wanna have selfie classes
Same lol
In 2:04 it said “ I doubt any company would ever debut traines who don’t behave properly” well they thought wrong cause Yujins and Wonyoungs old company hype debut Kim GARAM
It's pretty disturbing how companies make there idols as perfect as they could be. Like Itzy if I'm not mistaken also took posing and walking lessons from a well known model company of sumtin
Last part is scary 🥲 like imagine if last part actually come true she literally getting hate for international and loved by Koreans but if she turn out to be Taiwanese knetz might ate her like let's not forget what happened to ningning for congratulating her country 💀🤌🏻 Koreans are sensitive for no reason
Is it me or Leeseo rly does look older than 2007. I thought she’s a 03/04 liner :,D
i hate new gen...kpop used to be something about music but its not anymore
That’s why peniel said we don’t really know the true side of our favourite idol. Because, they do almost every for the media
Wonyoung has been through many things and she is a foreigner (half) so i can't imagine how many hate she has.
But quick fact : Her Father isn't fully Korean, he is mixed race too (i don't remember where i saw this)