Fake Microns?! Fineliner Review for Inktober & Avoiding Counterfeits
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- October is just around the corner, and millions of artists around the world will be participating in Inktober: the month-long challenge to make artwork in ink every day for the month of October.
In this video, I pull out all of my inking pens for a massive fineliner review (well, almost all. I forgot about my Staedtler Triplus), then we sit down and talk fake microns. Counterfeit Microns are rampant on websites that sell cheap and discounted products, often advertised using photographs from legitimate Micron listings. Don't be fooled! Watch through to the end for a look at how to spot a fake Micron, and why you might want to avoid them.
** PENS REVIEWED **
Sakura Pigma Micron
Sakura Pigma Micron PN
Staedtler Pigment Liner
Copic Multiliner
Faber-Castell Pitt Artist Pen
Tombow Fudenosuke brush/calligraphy pens
Kuretake Zig Writer for Vellum
edding 1340 brush pen
Sharpie Pen
Sharpie Ultra Fine Point
Uni-Ball Signo
Pentel EnerGel Metal Point
Pilot Hi-Tecpoint V7
Jinhao fountain pen
STA Pigment Liner
Marvy Uchida For Drawing
Drawing (no-name?)
Micro-Line
"Sakura Pigma Micron" imposters
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I looked for this video because I just received my micro pen and everything seems to indicate that they are originals, thank you!!
That's great!
Urghhh if only i found this video sooner! I recently bought 7 set of micron pen (wow ryt?) from notebook therapy which were FAKE. I should have done my research before placing the order but i was so convinced that it was real and the reviews were ALL positive which i would guess were also FAKE. I could've bought these "micron pens" in wish for a CHEAPER price if i wanted to save money.
Aww, sorry to hear that. The reviews were quite likely genuine, but from people who don't know what a Micron is supposed to be like. They're not bad pens for non-wet work, it's just that they're regular writing pen ink in cheaply made Japanese-style fineliner casings.
I WISH I HAVE SEEN THIS SOONER I ORDERED THERE TOO OMG
Really? Notebook therapy sells fakes? O_O hmm....
If you're in Europe, and you're looking for a legit art store that takes online orders, I recommend Jackson's. They're in the UK. Certainly not a discount option, but they don't sell fakes, and their shipping it very fair. I'm Canadian, and I'll order from them before I look at American companies because the shipping is better.
they’re already cheap, why would you look for them to be cheaper... that’s just asking to get scammed lmao
The Uchida Marvy or "For Drawing" as You call them, are a quite nice Japanese brand and up to now my favorite.
They really are nice! I ended up ordering a full set, and they're the only fineliners that go in my pencil bag when I take stuff along for a trip.
To all of watching this that do get the fake microns, we're on the same boat. But dont fret. It is easier to refill and we can refill it with pretty much any ink we want!
The reason it smeared because it has water-based ink on a plastic tip which are supposedly made for acryllic-based ink. Get any acryllic-based ink like a diamine india ink and your pen is now even better!!!
Great advise!
dude... I've had fake microns this whole time... This explains so much
Oh no!
My daughter asked for some of these (the Pigma Micron) for Christmas this year and I had no idea what they were or how they are used. Your video helped a lot and THANKS SO MUCH for the lesson about fakes!
I'm glad this helped!
Only 216 subs , no way you deserve more recognition I just has to sub, Lovely video.
Aww, thanks 😊
I love how you said weeeee at the squigly bit of the swatching. I got a micron off of aliexpress, and it looked pretty legit compared to my real one, but it was a lot more dry and I definitely know it's fake because of this video.
Lol, I was having fun 😅
Jenna, this was a very well thought out review. I very much appreciated it! I write notes in my bibles and this was soooo helpful and useful to me! Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the work that you put into this video. Just subbed! 😇
Thank you for bringing this to our attention, Jenna! After watching this I immediately examined each one of my Microns closely. It seems that I did pick up a package of fakes somewhere along the way. I noticed that the ink seems to flow onto the paper more effortlessly with my genuine 03 while I had to apply slightly more pressure with the fake one to get a line. The line was not as smooth and consistent with the fake and the nib seemed more "scratchy" as it went across the paper.
Glad I could help and sorry you ended up with some fakes.
I just subscribed you got right to the point and you have an amazing bubbly personality and I so happy to have found you! 😁
Aww, thanks 😊
My micron pens would smear and I would hate it so much made me hate micron and think they were bad pin but now I know I have had fake micron pins the hole time
Yeah, the smearing with fake ones is quite annoying 😕
Yay! I'm happy that I got the real ones! 😊 Your video helped a lot. Now I know which I shouldn't get/how they look when they are real for the future!
Awesome! Glad yours are real 😊
I was actually super nervous cuz Iwas checking whether I got the real or the fake but after watching ur vid, I figured out I have the real ones... tysm for telling the differences between the real ones and the copycats ^^ and heck yeah I subbed :))
Awesome, glad you got good ones!
Very helpful video. I have 2 questions if you can possibly answer them. 1. What is the brush called that you used that has water in it (I'm new to this so learning as I go) to test for waterproof? and 2. I came across another video where someone claimed fake Microns because of the sticker label as opposed to the printed label, would you know if there is any truth to this? In my 2 sets, I noticed the black has a printed label and the rest have sticker labels, all purchased on Amazon. What are your thoughts? I am curious. Thank you for this very informative video.
The paint brush with water inside it is called a water brush or a water pen brush.
It's possible that sticker labels mean nothing, some high end brands have switched to that, but I'm not sure. I haven't seen sticker labels on anything saying its Micron yet. If it shipped through an Amazon warehouse ("fulfilled by Amazon") I would trust it, but if it was sold AND shipped by a third party seller it's possible they're selling fakes and haven't been reported yet.
Thank you for this video. It was very helpful; Also I run to check all my Micron pens ...
You're welcome 😊
Wonderful review!!!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼Thank you!!!!
You're welcome 😊
Wait i have some sakura microns and they matched up with the fake one's comparison but theyre waterproof tho?
If they're waterproof you're probably fine
I found quite a few fakes in my Micron collection. I always wondered why they leaked. Now I know, thank you!!
Oh no! Well at least you've solved the mystery now.
I found the same answer😟
The reason it smeared because it has water-based ink on a plastic tip which are supposedly made for acryllic-based ink. Get any acryllic-based ink like a diamine india ink and your pen is now even better!!!
im in love with your voice.
Thanks 😊
i have 3 sakura micron, they are fake but it's ok since i bought them for like 80 cents each. anyway can i use fountain pen ink to refill micron?
If you can get either end open without breaking it, then yes, it will accept new ink.
dont use fountain pen inks. use acryllic-based ink, like the diamine india ink :) so you can get it to work just like any other microns.
Re your comment at 5:30 - I often use the Uniball Signo Broad in black, which is a rollerball and is waterproof. So some rollerballs are waterproof.
I recently also got a pentel gel pen that's waterproof once left to dry. Generally though if it's gel ink, it's safe to assume it's not.
I bought two bulk boxes of Microns on Amazon back in September (around 12 markers) because I was going to go broke paying almost 3.50 a piece for them at Hobby Lobby. I'm an avid inker and burn through a lot of these babies, and every once in a while I score a golden goose where the ink flow is amazing and the nib lasts a long time and I am able to get three months out of the same pen. Because of all of this, being able to get 12 of these for 20$ seemed too good to be true. The reviews on them were all great, so I ordered the two boxes, they shipped from Japan, and even showed up in a little Micron box... However, every single pen I've used from this box has been absolute trash. Literally after uncapping a brand new one, I could get half a comic page inked before the ink started appearing lighter like it wasn't flowing through the nib right. All the markers would run dry or make very faint markings within a few minutes of use. I've compared them to my authentic ones, but they are 100% identical to the ones I bought in store. I'm still not sure if they're counterfeit or if I just got a bad box. Either way, I'm going back to buying them at Hobby Lobby. It wasn't worth the hassle to save a few bucks lol
Yikes! That's unfortunate. I've heard more recently that the counterfeiters are getting far better at matching the text/font than when I bought the fakes in this video, but it's odd that they shipped from Japan if they are indeed fakes. The fakes tend to come from China.
I have the fake ones, but they're completely water and copic proof. I'm utterly comfused.
Sounds like you lucked out! Fakes that sprung for the good ink.
@@JennaGetsCreative I know it's a fake because of the tiny details you mentioned, and despite its water and copic proofness, the ink is a lil bit faded than the original.
Do you know deckblick (replace the "e" with "i", I think UA-cam deleted my comment for that)? It's supposed to be a trustworthy store. But in the pictures of the sakura micron pigma, it comes out TM and the long text under the "AP". Do you know if it's because of old models or something?
I'm not sure what's up with the product photos on Blick but they are a trustworthy chain with physical stores in the USA (and one day I'll visit one.)
@@JennaGetsCreative There is an official Sakura website, isn't there? There also some of them have the TM and the long text. Maybe they produce Microns for the whole world, and they also produce Microns for USA only( I say it because the long text put something about USA only I think).
Products intended for different countries will always have differences in packaging, so that sounds reasonable. For example, products going to the USA need Spanish translations. Canada needs French. You can tell if a company makes a North American product rather than splitting countries because it'll have both.
@@JennaGetsCreative So what do you think? Do we rule out TM and the long text as a way to see if it's a forgery?
If Blick is selling it I'd trust it. TM likely just means the brand name is trademarked in the US market.
Where can i buy the real one? I can't differentiate the fakes from the real ones, If anyone has a link i would be really thankful.
I just ordered pack of 6 sakura mirco pigment pens from flipkart, please tell me I'm not in risk of getting fake sakura pens 😭
I've never ordered from them before, but I hope not!
I bought some colored microns on offerup. I noticed they have sticker labeling. Are they fakes?
Probably, since microns don't have stickers. That doesn't make them bad liners, but you'll have to test what you want to do with them so you don't accidentally ruin things. They might not do well under water or alcohol ink, which means you would have to use them last, not first.
@@JennaGetsCreative yeah i tested them and they didnt bleed when adding water.🐶
About the label:
I called RAW materials art store and Claudia said the same.+_+.
In conclusion:
They are actually really good knockoffs🤣🤣.
I learned my lesson though 🦍. [Could have been worse etc.etc.].🦊.
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Thank you for your immediate reply. I loved the video btw. Will post on my blog.
Liked and subscribed. Sending positive vibes from Los Angeles.🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉
peace 🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉🦉
Aww, thanks 😊
I've been fooled . Space between logo and ‘micron‘ is closer. Wondered why it wasnt waterproof :)
Oh no!
How could that company get away with producing fake pens that look exactly the same? Can’t Sakura sue them?
I'm sure it's more than one company making fakes. Fakes are rampant in those markets. At least these are pens sold for a few dollars. The same counterfeiters make fake luxury items that sells for hundreds or thousands.
@@JennaGetsCreative I have a few Micron pens that look as you described in the video, however, the ink seems to be waterproof. I guess I will need to test them all before creating work with them to make sure they won't run.
I don't think that they are the fake ones. Jetpens, arguably the world's best stationery hub, sells the ones with the longer line after the trademark. either they are not the fake ones or the line cannot be used to distinguish between them
You don't think the ones I showed are fake? They most certainly are. I didn't order from Jet Pens, I ordered from Wish.
@@JennaGetsCreative no I didn't mean that.They were apparently fake but there should be another striking difference between the fake and the genuine ones. And it is the boldness of writing "Micron". Thats the one prominent difference between them.
Apparently the most recent fakes have done a better job with the writing, so that's not reliable anymore. I have heard that, that the writing on the fakes is more bold. I wouldn't say my 2 year old takes here's are more bold but the spacing to the letters is different.
I think i have been fooled!
Oh no!
Liner Sacura PIGMA MICRON lettering curve this feature or did I buy a fake?.
The lettering has changed since I made this video 2 years ago. The best test is to see what they do with water.
@@JennaGetsCreative Thank you for your quick response tell me how long do you need to wait for the ink to dry out for checking with water?.
Not very long, maybe 5 minutes if you want to be really careful.
@@JennaGetsCreative thank you again for your prompt response)
My microns seem legit but the the nip went inside the metal part, one wouldn't write although there was ink inside, the brush pen is not sleek.. i haven't used them alot but after few uses I can't use them anymore 🙄🙄 either it's just overhyped or i really got scammed
Hi, idk if the ones i bought are fake because i bought them from the actual sellers (Sakura) on amazon but they ran out of ink super fast and some of the text on the pen is crooked, another thing is when i erase sketches over the pen, the pen lines lighten too, are they fake?
also, here is the link to where i bought it from: www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0008G8G8Y?ref_=pe_2361882_295287342_301_E_DDE_di_1
Most Amazon sellers are legit, particularly if Amazon's warehouses are involved in the shipping. That's unfortunate that they ran out fast, though. I wonder if they'd been sitting around in a warehouse too long. I find the brush nib ones in particular die fast.
@@JennaGetsCreative I had to go over the same lines multiple times after my first 2 drawings
Very Helpful
I'm glad :)
This year for inktober i bought some "microns" and i was watching your video, and I am like yup, yup.. all good .. THEN, i checked the logo, and theres more writing under it than the real one.. thats the only difference.. damn it.. they seem okay, so maybe they are a better knock off , and honestly i dont use them a lot, but I am annoyed that the seller sold them as the real deal.. thanks for your video..
Do the waterproof test! The writing under the AP thing isn't consistent anymore, I've been told.
Either way, most fake microns are still excellent fineliners, they just can't be used under certain mediums and may not have the best lightfastness.
@@JennaGetsCreative i contacted them on ebay, they gave me an instant refund. That kind of tells me they arent the real deal, but to be honest, apart from them not being waterproof they are pretty good..still, I did buy them thinking they were the geniune ones.. Thanks Jenna :)
@@LoriFahy I'm glad you got a refund! Yeah, that sounds fishy when they don't argue.
I got microns today and was wondering if they were fake
I hope yours are legit!
i got my sakura micron pens from aliexpress but i can’t tell if they are fake. i think they’re waterproof? also the numbers on the cap have worn off so i don’t know if it’s thicker or thinner
I've heard newer batches of fakes matches the text size better anyway 🤷
Do Wish sell the originals
I'm not sure if any of the sellers on Wish have the originals, but many don't. If you don't have a local art store that sells them, Amazon listings that are eligible for Prime member shipping are usually legitimate products.
@@JennaGetsCreative omg I've just ordered mine on Wish. But over 5000 people bought this products and the reviews are 4.5 out of 5. That's considered a good thing right?
If I purchase from ebay do they sell counterfeit Sakura Pigma Micron?
It depends on the seller. EBay is just a market place website and doesn't actually sell or distribute anything themselves like Amazon does. If they're coming from China or nearby countries other than Japan and the price is too good to be true, I would be wary.
I should add though that the counterfeits are usually still good as fineliners in general. If you only work in ink (as in the pens), or use your fineliners *after* any watercolour or markers, then it doesn't matter that they're not the legitimate ink.
@@JennaGetsCreative Thank you so much for your fast respond.
@@AnnaMRoman-ln3fy you're welcome 😊
I will purchase the real sakura pigma micron. Thank you so much for such a great video on counterfeit microns
I have a fake micron and holy they are good even if thier 005 is almost as big as thier 01 the one I bought was wayyy more waterproof
I'm glad yours work for you! Fake doesn't automatically mean bad. Some fakes are going to be good pens in their own right.
The STA's fade within minutes. Drew 3 squares, one each with STA, Uni Pin, and Sakura Micron.....the Uni and Micron stay nice and black, meanwhile the STA turns dark gray in about 3-5 minutes. Good for practice and casual doodling, but anything approaching pro, forget it.
Yeah, I certainly don't find myself reaching for the STAs anymore. The brush nib has gone fuzzy, too.
I'm sceptical of Pentalic's liners because they look exactly like the STAs.
@@JennaGetsCreative Oh yeah, forgot about that one! Mine is starting to get fuzzy and I barely use it. It's not even like I'm using it on toothy paper. Super smooth high quality Hammermill paper that literally all my other pens work 100% fine with.
Never even heard of Pentalic but I just checked them out, and you're most likely correct. A lot of these are bought in bulk on Alibaba, and rebranded for a small additional fee. MIC knockoff guitar pedals have the same thing going, you can find 15 brand variants of any pedal, and they'll be identical internally.
On a similar name, but whole different level of expectation ....I've got some Pentel Pointliners coming soon, looking forward to checking them out because I trust them due to their excellent mechanical pencils and leads. Never been disappointed by them in the past, so hopefully they'll be good. :)
Those should be good! I've never been disappointed by Pentel.
I'm so glad I found you because I almost bought the fake ones!
I'm glad you found it, then!
Where you from?
Canada. Newfoundland currently, British Columbia originally.
any link to where to buy the real sakura?
I don't know what to recommend because I don't know where you are (for shipping options). Any Micron listing on Amazon that is fulfilled by Amazon, or the seller has the word "Sakura" in the name is going to be the real thing. Any reputable art stores will stock the real thing. If shipping from the USA is the best option for you, blick.com or jerrysartarama.com have excellent prices. If shipping from the UK is the best option for you (it's actually better for me in Canada than the American companies for small items!) then jacksonsart.com is a great option as well. Any art stores local to you that carry Microns probably have the real thing, and they'd be able to tell you for sure if you ask. If you've got Walmart or Michaels near you, they both carry real Microns as well.
@@JennaGetsCreative thank you for your reply, i guess amazon will be the better option, they ship everywhere. gonna check those websites you listed!!
I bought fake ones off amazon I was so annoyed because I was like why is this smudging am I doing something wrong I thought these were water proof the pens are awful but look even more real than the ones in this video comparing the real ones I just got it’s almost impossible to tell the difference
@@BubbleBunnyy thats a shame, i was cheking the advise sakura gives on their webpage, when you buy from amazon, chech you arw buying directly to amazon no fulfillment by amazon, and we can buy directly to sakura througj amazon.
Amazon don't ship to Vietnam sadly. So I bought the fake one. For a dollar.
I have a 001.
The Stas are so cheap, I'm just gonna get those if they work ok. Thanks for the vid!
You're welcome 😊
Your the best
Aww, thanks 😊
as usual where do you think those fake ones comes from.
Well I got then from Wish, but these sellers are all over AliExpress, Banggood, etc. China and neighbouring countries known to manufacture counterfeits in all markets.
Im impressed someone still thinks sakura is made in japan. Sakura moved their production to china almost half a decade ago.
@@hxsm8090 i’m impressed that someone still did not get the logic of my comment. fake products are different from the licensed operator like apple and mamny more...
After 3 or 4 years I found that my microns are fake😟 I had some suspicious about it as it start leaking after some time.. And I've never checked if they are waterproof, before today of course.. Good point, even it's fake it will last forever. I'm just afraid now, it may start fading after a while..
Aww, that's unfortunate. I hope they don't fade!
@@JennaGetsCreative I've get new ones from amazon. First think was waterproof check and those pass it😁
Awesome! Glad the new ones are good.
thank you im a pencil user but i was thinking of using inkings nmow i know which ones to pick for inkinkg thank you
You're welcome!
ik this was awhile ago but i just got a set of Microns today as i aspire to be a marker artist and now ik what to watch for thankfully mine are indeed real...thanks for this upload
Good to hear and good luck!
I buy fake and i was so happy and now i wont paint with them becuse i paint woth watercolors
Yeah, they definitely won't work out well with watercolour if you want to put these down first :/
Mine's real. Whewwwwww
Yay!
The thing with comparing fakes (it's on most videos of people out there who comparing copies)
The viewers might not have the real one in the first place. So probably next time you should position yourself as one who might not have the real one
The feel of the pen
The ink dryness or wetness/opacity chart
Physical build (not just how the text looks)
This wasn't a review of the counterfeit, it was differences between real and counterfeit because counterfeits with this particular brand are rampant on Chinese market sites. It's helpful to know if the good deal you got was as good as it seems.
The text on the barrel is outraged advise now. This video is 2 years old, and the counterfeiters have improved.
Facc i got a goddamn fake one
Aww, sorry to hear that!
@@JennaGetsCreative But its faccin waterproof
Buy from amazon,. They sell the originals.
Yup, that's where my real ones came from.
Amazon isn’t a guarantee to stuff being real. Amazon don’t check whether stuff is fake or not 🤷🏻♀️
Yup, this is why I try to avoid third party sellers. Usually if it comes from Amazon's own warehouse it's legitimate.
Thank you for telling us which one is real and fake. Im almost buy the fake one😂😂
Glad I could help!
Not to be contrary, but the "extra words" you mention on the "fake" Micron pens is "Conforms to ASTM D 4236" and is "ASTM D-4236 is the standard practice of labeling art materials for chronic health hazards. The designation “conforms to ASTM D-4236” means all of the potentially hazardous components of the art product have been clearly labeled on the product packaging."
Specific to North American Markets I believe
I wasn't implying that the ASTM labelling itself is a marker of anything being fake; I was pointing out that the fake ones have a longer segment of text in the ASTM section. That said, newer fakes have the exact same text as legitimate ones now, so that point is void now anyway.
Damn the original one is from Japan, but I bought this from China. My bad for not research it first :"""( but the ink is good and it doesn't penetrate the paper :>
I've heard rumour that they've moved manufacturing to China, so I wouldn't be suspicious only becuase it says made in China. Tombow is also a Japanese company and some of their stuff bought directly from their own website will say made in China.
#giveaway you really deserve more subscribers
Aww, thanks :)
The fake microns changed the letter thickness and the saftey seal to match that of real microns
I've heard that recently. Sneaky sneaky!
@@JennaGetsCreative yeah, I got tricked, I thought they were real after I watched the video until I tested the ink, forgot to say that the label on it was also obviously crooked. never buying from Amazon again
If you only need black ink, Staedtler pigment liners come in the same sizes and perform the same, and I've never seen that brand counterfitted.
@@JennaGetsCreative I'm just looking for something that gets a good comic book astetic and I hear microns are amazing for that, also I didn't know steadler made those
God damn it, I have Mipor.
This notificaiton out of the blue made me laugh more than it should have! Do they at least write nice?
@@JennaGetsCreative I'm glad I made you laugh! They're not waterproof and can stop working at times, but they're pretty good otherwise. (:
They got me good! They're the exact same colour and shape as microns.
Hopefully I'll get the right ones next time!
@@treeshapedsnacks4078 Hopefully! At least you'll select more carefully next time.
This is my first time buying Micron, because of quarantine my dad bought the microns for me 😂 because I don't want to buy it online. My dad bought micron 0.3 And I'm waiting for my parents to come home from the store.
Oooo, nice!
I bought a fake mircon for 4.50$ a few months ago XD but it doesn’t smudge with water
That's good! Fake doesn't always mean not waterproof, depends what kind of ink they used. Not waterproof always means fake, though.
i got the fake micron gg omg
Aww, sorry to hear that
i used no waterproof for watercolor paper is make amazing painting alike no waterproof reason is put lot water paper put this cheap pen ink explode is make beautiful color used make flor abstract/ trial one day is you draw Flores used water brush y pass brush for the coner the flor you see the result, some cheap no waterproof has more the one pigmet some has gree o purple
I agree, non-waterproof pens ca be used for beautiful techniques. I painted a lion last month using Staedtler Triplus pens.
#giveaway100
With the fake microns you forced it to come off still its fake but you forced ut
I forced it off that time, yes, but I knew it came off because it did it on its own the day before. I must have put it back together tighter than I thought I had.
i'm fooled ugh
Oh no!
@@JennaGetsCreative thank you a lot sis
#giveaway100
#giveaway100
Thanks for the view and comment, but I'm sorry to say this giveaway was from last year. Stick around though, as I'll be doing another one soon!