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Love the new into. Also I wear glasses and tend to ride with my visor open a tiny bit to avoid fogging. It’s just something I have dealt with my entire life.
I’m returning to riding after being away for a long time. Helmets and their ventilation and built in drop down visors, and pin lock visors are great technology that didn’t exist when I ride previously.
always have a clear visor , I change at the late afternoon gas stop , takes less than a min on my Shoei , my GT Air also has a flip down built in visor.
Whether you are in Greece or Denmark (California or Canada) the best option will always be a clear main visor and an additional sunscreen visor. This will cover regardless of strong sun, fog, rain, tunnels or night riding. You never know what you will encounter next
Talking about the 'star' effect when riding at night with a pinned dual face shield. The same effect is achieved without the dual face shield from having Lasik surgery on the eyes. Personally after having it done 15+ years ago (turning 54 in '19) it's a small price to pay to get rid of glasses. And you get used to it over time. Been on 2 wheels 46-47 years. Love it so much I refuse to die except on 2 wheels lol.
I'm glad you asked if you missed anything. You showed a stack of colored visors, but you didn't discuss them. I hear all the opinions about the issue that each color is supposed to solve. I've never really believed any of it, and I'm certainly not willing to buy them at $70 each for a test. Do you have any experience with them?
When I bought my helmet AGV Corsa, came with the anti fog, installed in the visor, made the mistake of washing the visor with antibacterial soap, and the anti-fog film that was brought to ruin, I share my experience so that it does not happen to you, always clean the visor with the appropriate product, greetings from Carmelo, Uruguay ✌
If you ride in cold temps and have issues with fogging, a snowmobile helmet will be the answer for you. A good double paned shield and a breath deflector which sled helmets have will hardly ever fog.
As a detailer it was kinda obvious I ceramic coated my entire helmet, including the visor, I always have a small bottle of PH neutral car shampoo and a bottle of distilled water on board keeping in case of a suicidal bug, due to that ceramic coating most bugs ricochets of or clean of right away. Also I tinted my retractable sun with an extra layer of car window tint. As you said those visors aren't as dark as a tinted visor, easy fix
I like a clear shield and sunglasses. I have a pair for cloudy/overcast days and one for bright sun. They are polarized. I have tried several different anti-fog treatments over the years. I worked outside in Alaska for 3+ years and also had the fog problem with goggles. They ALL suck. They either don't work at all or leave kind of a smeary coating. On the bike I just crack it open at the bottom and it works great (did the same thing racing). Strange that I have never had the problem of my sunglasses fogging up in my helmet though. I've never noted that. I'm surprised to hear you say the pin shield works, double lens goggles DIDN"T WORK well at all in AK. If the temperature of the inner shield reaches dew point, they are going to fog. Warm, moist breath on a cold surface...every time.
I like helmets with the clear face shields the best , that have the inner flip down sunglass visor. Also some helmets don't include a cut-out space in the helmets inner padding to allow clearance for spectacle / sunglasses 'arms' , so the the helmets without the cutouts will press those spectacle 'arms' into your temples ..., and that gets annoying and hurts after a while when riding.
Since i tried a helmet with an internal drop down sun visor that is what i demand of any helmet i buy. There is nothing that beats that imo. And when it comes to safety the HJC he used in this video has one and at Sharp it is impact tested on the forehead and it was green(best protection) so i'm thinking the sun visor doesn't diminish the safety all that much. When it comes to things i would have liked to see it would be the mirror visors. Some say that they are able to keep the sun out of your eyes while still being bright to see through even at night.
Black visor for me , carry a clear one if I'm likely to be out after Dark, goggles and sunglasses not a option when you where glasses! Only helmet that I found that fits is arai, so flip down inner not available, your right about arai,s outer dark visor , it's crap, and noisy when up.
What about mirrored visors? When it's really sunny out I have a tendency to be able to see my reflection when I ride with the visor down which distorts my vision. So when I'm riding towards direct sunlight I ride with the visor up. Any tips on reducing or eliminating the reflection?
I had a major glare at sunset with my HJC 17 and got really scared even at a slow speed. I placed to two peaces of electrical tape side by side to create a visor at top of the face shild and it works well. If you do a clean job, it looks like part of the helmet. Its a life saver... saver...... That was one scary moment.
I agree with Keitho. I have a Scorpion helmet and their shields come with a anti-fogging protection built in, but that isn't what fogs up for me, it's my glasses instead. The curse of not being able to wear contacts I guess. UGH !!!
I have a set of glasses that I use just for ridding and give them a wipe with anti fog when I finish ridding for the day and a quick polish at the start of the next ride. Still not perfect but it does help.
never use a paper towel to clean windshield, face shield or plastic glasses. It will scratch. Use Rayon cloth (like handiwipe) or micro fibril towel or very soft cotton. I learned this the hardway. When by the ocean, the air has more salt in it. I always flood the plastic with warm water first (before using any kind of cloth). Reason being, the salt deposited on the plastic will just get ground into the plastic and scratch the plastic if it is not removed first.
I prefer riding with my Modular helmet over anything else I've had. Under 40 on a hot day, or at the stoplights, I have the chin bar open. When underway down the highway or cruising over 40, I have the chin bar closed down, but chances are my [clear] visor is wide open... I always carry a few pairs of motorcycle glasses [Clear/Yellow/Dark] and only really resort to closing the face shield if there is an upcoming debris hazards I can see such as lawn mowers, Farm equipment, Sprayers, and dust clouds. I always use the shield when it's raining, or when I'm getting a bit cold [I ride frequently throughout the Pennsylvania Winters] ... I find it very uncomfortable to have no glasses on under my helmet. I always felt that EYESIGHT is 2nd in line to TIRES when it comes to motorcycle safety equipment... maybe even #1 .. If I can see where I'm going.. the condition of the bike isn't going to be my biggest concern. What do you think Kevin?
Plexus is magic and should be worshipped. Also only rub the visor one way either side to side OR up and down. This procedure is reccommended by the FAA for cleaning aircraft windshields. Aircraft windshields are made from the same material as motorcycle visors. Have a great ride.
clear visor and glasses is the best choice.... however what if you wear glasses to see? I think its better to have a pinhole visor (tinted) and clear visor or just have a minimal tint... I mostly commute during daylight so mirror visor would suit me the best, or transition visor (if its an option for the helmet)
I can’t use googles cause I wear prescription glasses. I got a Harley Davidson full face modular helmet that has the internal spring action dark visor. Come to find out the helmet is an HJC even though it has Harley plastered all over it. I plan buying an HJC pin lock for it too.
I have a Shoie GT Air helmet with a drop down visor. My only issue with it is when it is cold outside but the sun is out. The drop down visor fogs up quickly. I have not tried putting any anti-fog spray on it to see if that will help.
Looking for more info on helmets that accommodate my prescription glasses. I get the modular are not as safe, but hey, I can put on the helmet over my specks, when I use one.
Hey Kevin, another great vid'. I have an HJC FG-ST with the internal visor and it is, as is the IS-17 SHARP 5 star rated, so I figure there's little or no compromise on safety. Wadya reckon?
Sup! I really need help, i am looking for a comptiable visor for my THH Ts 80 helment On amazon and ebay they only got dark smoke and the clear i am lookong for a colourful visor 💪🔥
Just know that the photochromic visors have a finite lifespan. Outside elements, UV rays, and the keratin from bug exoskeletons (which is also in your finger nails, believe it or not), will eat away at the visor. At the moment, it's not worth the price for me. I usually have good experiences with aviators under a clear visor.
@@trig I don't think so, but even then they have a finite life span. There are some videos of new vs a year old and it's roughly half the tint. It will obviously vary with weather and heat.
I've found that the chrome/silver reflective visor to be pretty good for day/night riding. Now it does make it darker but nothing like having a true tinted visor on at night... That's just way too dark. I wear glasses. So other than buy super expensive shades I just deal with the trade off!
Mojo Man when I use to ride, a lot of daytime riding minimal night time. I had a tinted shield with ansi approved clear slim glasses in my bag . I liked the combo.
Got an HJC IS-17 as well. Having an anti fog visor is nice, but what good is that for when the inner sun visor fogs up? It helps to open the main visor just a notch to increase airflow. Got a better solution?
One of my helmets is the HJC IS-Max modular model. I find that with the vents open, the sun visor will not fog up, however outer visor sometimes does, depending upon relative humidity and riding speed, unless the outer visor is cracked open slightly. Another concern is that, theoretically, that sun visor could give me a nasty cut on the nose should I crash with the thing actuated, because my nose is somewhat aquiline. I love the way the actuation is instantly canceled by tapping the release button, though. Try treating both the sun visor and the outer visor with an anti-fog treatment product.
Wheeljack2k I have used Rainx inside and outside of my helmet. I ride all year on the Gulf of Mexico deep South. What ever kind of weather we have its working for me. You can use some bar soap and rub it onto the inside of your visor. Wipe clean no water. You won't get ANY fog from breathing. Test that on the bathroom mirror! I've been riding for 40 years so this stuff is readily available to you just about where ever you happen to end up. I keep the rainx in my bags. Ok then! Stay off out of tha ditches! Turtle Have fun! Turtle
Within the helmet construction, the flip down visor is sandwiched between the outer shell and the EPS liner giving the same amount of protection to the rider.I myself have the HJC with this facility and it brill.
After going through two other helmets and not satisfied, finally got the Shoei RF1200 with the photochromic transitions shield. I have never had a fog issue and the bright light has not been an issue. I am brown eyed so I may be less sensitive. I wish I had started out this way. Would have saved me a lot of money! That's my two cents! Gonna go buy some Plexus now. Thanks Kevin!
Excellent video, I've opted for the clear with drop down visor so that I can flip it up for tunnels and parking garages during the day. I'm gonna give Plexus a try, thanks for the tip.
Yeah, my Shoei helmet has a inner dark shield for sun as well as the outer clear visor. That's why I bought that one specifically, as it was more expensive for that feature. It's my first helmet, as I am a new rider, and I've used it for sun already. Happy with it. Thanks for your videos.
I would never buy a street helmet that doesn't have the internal sun visor. It's super convenient when riding in and out of shade, especially in forests and mountains late in the evening. I usually carry sunglasses with me as well, because you often want them when you get to wherever it is that you're going. A clear face shield is fine, but most helmets have a lightly smoked option that I get if I need to replace a scratched or cracked face shield only because I think it looks a little better and it's still easy enough to see at night.
A little detail you may have missed with the plexus. I don't think I'd recommend using it on mirrored visors as it may eat through the mirror coating on the exterior of the visor. Once that starts chipping off, you're left with a spotty mid-level smoked visor from the inside, and a patchy mirror finish on the outside.
.....IMHO: It's increasingly unpleasant to be wearing, or looking thru multiple layers of plastic visor lenses!!! Can't somebody make one SUPERB "GRADIENT-TINTED", "TRANSITION" LENS???!!!.....THAT RESISTS FOGGING, OR HOLDING ONTO DIRT AND DUST?!...
For those of you that wear glasses and ride in the cold. The only combo I have found that works is a pinlock and contacts. If I just use the pinlock my glasses fog up. So when its really cold I use the contacts and the pinlock and get no fogging.
I have been using a C3-Pro with a dark visor for daytime riding. When things get really bright, I use the built-in drop-down sun visor also. It's the only way to go near sunrise and sunset. I carry a spare clear visor for rain and dark.
One thing I like about my Scorpion helmet is that it came with both clear and tinted visors in the box, and they're really easy to swap out, so if I'm going to a rally or out of town where I know I might end up in the dark, I always take the clear one with me.
Kevin, your advice on the Pinlock system was timely last year, I ride all year in the UK and we get a lot of cool/cold/wet weather and this winter was the first with crystal clear vision and I thank you for that. Can't recommend it enough if you ride all weathers or colder climates. The plexus is good and prolongs the visor life. I wear glasses and I've found not having them pressed up close to my face helps with fogging....also have plastic lenses helps too, glass always fogs. Love Major!
I've tried the pinlock system off and on but it never really seams to keep my visor crystal??? I use the InVision Hyper shield, it's a bit tricky to stick on but the gasket is thicker than that of the pinlock and no matter how heavy I breath they never fog up. I'm down here in Cornwall (UK) so know where you're coming from :)
only been watching these vids for the past two weeks and they are real good. Like MC Rider, i have been riding bikes since 1978 and now ride a 98 heritage springer and a 2012 Muscle...... and will be 60 this year............but we are all still just learning every time we throw our legs over our scooters................thanks for the videos bro...
I use the hjc internal visor. Works perfectly fine for me. I also wear eyeglasses so I got the thin memory wire frames. On my non hjc helmet I use a series of clip on sunglasses of different colors and degree of darkness. All good. I care a cotton face cloth wet with a non amonia soap spray on it in a Ziploc bag. Clean the visor at every coffee stop
I live in N.W. Indiana, I use Z-Clear on my helmet shield and glasses to reduce fogging. In less its below freezing then I still get a little fogging around the edge of my shield.
Good information Kevin. One product you didn’t bring up is the SuperVisor attachment that adds the equivalent of the extended bill much like that MCrider baseball cap that you wear. It attaches to the flip up visor with strong 2 face tape, yet is vented at the top to minimise the effects of the wind blast to the profile of the helmet. The shadow it casts across the face is significant during the day, but I find it’s best selling point is the ability it provides you for riding into the low horizon sun in the early morning or late evening commute. Just dip your head down a bit and the sun is blocked like a car’s windshield visor. Between my clear visor, prescription sun glasses, and SuperVisor, I can ride any time of day or night without issues. Not bad for a $20 investment.
As always you make some of the best videos on the channel; many thanks! FYI: Wiley X makes many styles of sunglasses including models with a sealing material around the frame, as you showed. They are optically correct, certified shatter proof (might be handy on a motorcycle) and readily available in many places, including amazon. Some models have the lens seal is removable. I have worn these for many years for many sports and differing equipment; everyday, motorcycle, atv, horseback, airplane and helicopter flying, water and snow skiing! Also, the Honda spray cleaner is about 1/3 rd. the price and has better reviews than plexus. Good Rides
Bell makes a single piece "double pane" visor (like a pin-lock) that you can swap into their Vortex, Revolver EVO, RS-1 and certain model years of the Star helmet. They were created for snowmobile use, but fit fine on motorcycle helmets also. I have one and it works great... no fogging at all. They also have an electric heated visor for several of the same helmets. It takes a little searching, but they're out there available on-line.
Hi Kevin Great info on visors, especially the cleaner. Already ordered a can. I have the same HJC IS17 helmet. I am really curios what mount you have on it for the camera. I just cant seem to find a good chin mount for my camera. Thanks for the great show every week. always look forward to it.
no no no , Always= ALWAYS keep clear visor!!!! keep cheep /construction safety glasses= fits tight to face .. they come in dark.. yellow and clear... i like the dark.. they double as torch glasses ..lol
Hello, are you in Canada? I agree about Plexus! What about polarized clip on sunglasses for my trifocals or progressive glasses? I bought a Sena helmet with a clear shield and pin lock inner shield. When I looked down at my BMW dash, I could not see it, so the issue is the polarized lens, with the glasses lens, and further the pin lock layer. Too many layers and the polarization is also the problem. I now need to buy a shaded face shield, $100 Canadian! That would include a pin lock, too. Is this why all shades face shields are not polarized, since that is designed for looking at the ocean, etc? Help! I am afraid I will buy the shaded and pin locked shield, strip off the sticker advertising and again go to ride away and not be able to see my dash. Will need to convince the sales person to allow pin lock installation, cellophane advertising sticker removal, and shaded shield install, before actually riding away with it, since then I will own it. Complicated....
My major peeve is riding into the low, evening sun, shortly before sunset. Even a tinted visor or sunglasses sometimes aren't enough, or it catches you off guard when you turn into it. I have tried a strip of darkly tinted film at the top inch or so of my visor; works well, but not very durable. I just got a great looking device from Sunax (www.sunax.com.au/). Made in Germany, sold in Australia. It is a thin tinted band that fits very snuggly between the helmet shell and liner. They make specific models for Arai helmets. They are spendy, but look like the answer to my problem.
Has anyone ever experienced what I call Sun blast? It's not riding straight into the Sun. I ridden for hours on end straight into the Sun and it is reasonably easy to defeat straight on Sun light with good UV glasses and dark visor. What I'm talking about is when it is nearly Sundown and the beams of light are shooting through the trees and bushes. It is like a very rapid fire kaleidoscope coming at you from the side. If you've never experienced that, you are lucky. It will make you go into and out of paralysis and scare the hell out of you. I hope I've described this well enough. I'm thinking without the trees and shrubbery this would'nt occur. I think also it is concurrent with how the Sun sets with the equinoxes. I have experienced this only two times and both times it was late October and about or very near Sundown.
Kevin, great videos and a great show. Despite my many years riding there's always something new to learn. I am a half helmet rider and am looking into the purchase of a full face or open face helmet but can't decide which way to go. Can you help with pro's and cons of each?
I´m not Kevin but I would suggest a flip-up (in the US called modular) full-face helmet. I have a Schuberth C3 pro which is the same as most European police forces. I have no stock in Schuberth
Go full face. 34% of head impacts to motorcycle riders happen to the jaw and lower face zone. It is the highest impact area by far of the whole helmet.
why do Amercians need to put a different name on everything? it's a visor, a face shield is something you wear using a chainsaw or a garden strimmer, and how hard is it to change the visor to a clear one when it starts to get dark? better than riding around with those stupid little goggles on that's for sure.
FYI I know this is old but for others watching, you CAN buy better sun visors. Schuberth for instance has like 4 different ones that get more powerful sun screening and reflection.
removing insects from a screen is very easy. use a napkin or a soft piece of paper. put it on the screen make it wet, and leave it for a few minutes and then wipe it off your screen.
What I do is keep in my tunnel bag a small bottle of glasses cleaner I get from my optometrist. It has no ammonia or alcohol. I also keep a microfiber cloth. I can stop and clean bugs off on my trip.
I would think with all the tech available today that a pair of tinted contact lenses would be readily available on the open market. I don't wear contacts but that seems like a too simple option to me that I've never seen or even heard of.
Good overview Kevin. We have used a KLIM TK1200 Modular helmet with the Transitions face shield and pin lock for the past year. It works so well we never need any additional glasses. My wife's eyes are very sensitive to light. She used to have to were dark glasses with a face shield. She now only wears dark glasses when she takes the helmet off. The shields go completely clear at night.
Hey Larry, been considering the TK1200 along with the E-1 & C4 from Schuberth plus waiting to see the new Neotec 2 from Shoei. What are your overall impressions of that helmet as far as sound, comfort, etc.? Also, do you have comm units on them? If so, which did you get? They look as if they might not accept the majority of comm units on the market without doing some cutting to the neck roll tabs. Thanks!
We have UClear Pro's installed, we did not have to cut anything to install, even the dual microphones under the brow line lining. Most of the internal padding snaps out. We opted for the UClear Pulse Pro speakers. The KT1200 is quieter than the Arai RX-Q it replaced. I used to ride a Suzuki M109R and most helmets vibrated so bad at speed I thought my brain would get scrambled. The Arai and the Klim did not vibrate from wind buffeting. Comfort: the low weight of this Carbon Fiber helmet makes it easy to wear all day. Last May we rode 486 miles in one day with strong cross winds in New Mexico, Arizona and Utah on a HD Ultra Limited. We did not experience any neck or shoulder discomfort. Our bottoms did not fare so well! One day on that trip we rode in rain and snow the full day, about 200 miles. With the pin locks in place we did not have any fogging or water making its way to our faces. I can honestly say the Klim TK1200 is the most comfortable helmet I have owned. I hope this information helps.
Larry Tomlinson Thanks again. I’ll look into the UClear Pro. Been using Sena products for years & like them, never tried others except the SRC System on my C3-Pro. Both my helmets have pinlocks, unfortunately I wear glasses & they fog up for a while. Once the acclimate they are fine. On my 2nd HD Ultra Limited, a 2017. Had the 2011 until last year. Rode over 700 miles in a day twice on the ‘11, I know what one’s butt feels like after that! 😬
Another couple of quick questions, Larry. You say you opted for the Pulse Pro speakers, I see them online. Why did you do that, stock speakers bad; better clarity and/or sound; better fitment? Any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks.
Another couple of quick questions, Larry. You say you opted for the Pulse Pro speakers, I see them online. Why did you do that, stock speakers bad; better clarity and/or sound; better fitment? Any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks.
A few weeks ago, I bought a new helmet as the old one (Shoei Multitec) had its 9th birthday and didn't feel nice anymore. Never had any issues with it though, it was just the inside comfort foam that was hardened due time. It had a gradually tinted visor (clear on the bottom, medium tinted at the top) which was great, but not perfect in low-light conditions (full shaded areas, tunnels and at night time). My new helmet is (again) a Shoei, the Neotec 2017 series in plain white. Many improvements, better aerodynamics and with a build-in drop-down sun visor. The "parking space" for this visor, does not reduce the material thickness of the impact foam in the shell. Instead, at this spot the shell has a bulge which provides space for the sun visor. So, in the case the safety is not compromised. It should never do. By the way... Did you know that Pinlock is a Dutch invention?... I use it since 1996, back then it had a plastic foil that protected the permanent glue around the edge, so to install it, you had to remove that foil and stick it (very carefully) onto the visor. You just had one chance to do it right. This had some flaws, as the glue did not seal perfectly resulting in water vapor between visor and shield. A few years later, the silicone gasket and pins were introduced, which is still a proven recipe. I wouldn't want it any other way, it's easy to adjust the tension, it's easy to remove for cleaning, it's perfect, I LOVE it!
Thanks for bringing that up. I just did a UA-cam search and it looks like AGV had a version out two years ago. I'm not sure of other manufacturers but it seems like the only downside according to the Revzilla review was that it couldn't go completely clear, the lightest it would go was a light smoke color.
Great info! One tip that really helped me was putting a couple of strips of black electrical tape across the top of the visor. Helps alot when the sun is lower on the horizon, and beaming into my eyes.
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Love the new into.
Also I wear glasses and tend to ride with my visor open a tiny bit to avoid fogging. It’s just something I have dealt with my entire life.
I also wear glasses. Have you tried the pinlock visor???
Great way of getting peeps to watch your videos to the end, your a cunning guy.
:)
I’m returning to riding after being away for a long time. Helmets and their ventilation and built in drop down visors, and pin lock visors are great technology that didn’t exist when I ride previously.
Major!! What a cool little dude!
Getting bigger every week.
always have a clear visor , I change at the late afternoon gas stop , takes less than a min on my Shoei , my GT Air also has a flip down built in visor.
Whether you are in Greece or Denmark (California or Canada) the best option will always be a clear main visor and an additional sunscreen visor. This will cover regardless of strong sun, fog, rain, tunnels or night riding. You never know what you will encounter next
Talking about the 'star' effect when riding at night with a pinned dual face shield. The same effect is achieved without the dual face shield from having Lasik surgery on the eyes. Personally after having it done 15+ years ago (turning 54 in '19) it's a small price to pay to get rid of glasses. And you get used to it over time. Been on 2 wheels 46-47 years. Love it so much I refuse to die except on 2 wheels lol.
I'm glad you asked if you missed anything. You showed a stack of colored visors, but you didn't discuss them. I hear all the opinions about the issue that each color is supposed to solve. I've never really believed any of it, and I'm certainly not willing to buy them at $70 each for a test. Do you have any experience with them?
When I bought my helmet AGV Corsa, came with the anti fog, installed in the visor, made the mistake of washing the visor with antibacterial soap, and the anti-fog film that was brought to ruin, I share my experience so that it does not happen to you, always clean the visor with the appropriate product, greetings from Carmelo, Uruguay ✌
If you ride in cold temps and have issues with fogging, a snowmobile helmet will be the answer for you. A good double paned shield and a breath deflector which sled helmets have will hardly ever fog.
As a detailer it was kinda obvious I ceramic coated my entire helmet, including the visor, I always have a small bottle of PH neutral car shampoo and a bottle of distilled water on board keeping in case of a suicidal bug, due to that ceramic coating most bugs ricochets of or clean of right away. Also I tinted my retractable sun with an extra layer of car window tint. As you said those visors aren't as dark as a tinted visor, easy fix
I like a clear shield and sunglasses. I have a pair for cloudy/overcast days and one for bright sun. They are polarized. I have tried several different anti-fog treatments over the years. I worked outside in Alaska for 3+ years and also had the fog problem with goggles. They ALL suck. They either don't work at all or leave kind of a smeary coating. On the bike I just crack it open at the bottom and it works great (did the same thing racing). Strange that I have never had the problem of my sunglasses fogging up in my helmet though. I've never noted that.
I'm surprised to hear you say the pin shield works, double lens goggles DIDN"T WORK well at all in AK. If the temperature of the inner shield reaches dew point, they are going to fog. Warm, moist breath on a cold surface...every time.
Love my transition shield !!
I like helmets with the clear face shields the best , that have the inner flip down sunglass visor.
Also some helmets don't include a cut-out space in the helmets inner padding to allow clearance for spectacle / sunglasses 'arms' , so the the helmets without the cutouts will press those spectacle 'arms' into your temples ..., and that gets annoying and hurts after a while when riding.
Since i tried a helmet with an internal drop down sun visor that is what i demand of any helmet i buy. There is nothing that beats that imo. And when it comes to safety the HJC he used in this video has one and at Sharp it is impact tested on the forehead and it was green(best protection) so i'm thinking the sun visor doesn't diminish the safety all that much.
When it comes to things i would have liked to see it would be the mirror visors. Some say that they are able to keep the sun out of your eyes while still being bright to see through even at night.
Black visor for me , carry a clear one if I'm likely to be out after Dark, goggles and sunglasses not a option when you where glasses! Only helmet that I found that fits is arai, so flip down inner not available, your right about arai,s outer dark visor , it's crap, and noisy when up.
What about mirrored visors? When it's really sunny out I have a tendency to be able to see my reflection when I ride with the visor down which distorts my vision. So when I'm riding towards direct sunlight I ride with the visor up. Any tips on reducing or eliminating the reflection?
I had a major glare at sunset with my HJC 17 and got really scared even at a slow speed. I placed to two peaces of electrical tape side by side to create a visor at top of the face shild and it works well. If you do a clean job, it looks like part of the helmet. Its a life saver...
saver...... That was one scary moment.
I agree with Keitho. I have a Scorpion helmet and their shields come with a anti-fogging protection built in, but that isn't what fogs up for me, it's my glasses instead. The curse of not being able to wear contacts I guess. UGH !!!
I have a set of glasses that I use just for ridding and give them a wipe with anti fog when I finish ridding for the day and a quick polish at the start of the next ride. Still not perfect but it does help.
never use a paper towel to clean windshield, face shield or plastic glasses. It will scratch. Use Rayon cloth (like handiwipe) or micro fibril towel or very soft cotton.
I learned this the hardway. When by the ocean, the air has more salt in it. I always flood the plastic with warm water first (before using any kind of cloth). Reason being, the salt deposited on the plastic will just get ground into the plastic and scratch the plastic if it is not removed first.
I wholeheartedly agree plexus is the best
I prefer riding with my Modular helmet over anything else I've had. Under 40 on a hot day, or at the stoplights, I have the chin bar open. When underway down the highway or cruising over 40, I have the chin bar closed down, but chances are my [clear] visor is wide open... I always carry a few pairs of motorcycle glasses [Clear/Yellow/Dark] and only really resort to closing the face shield if there is an upcoming debris hazards I can see such as lawn mowers, Farm equipment, Sprayers, and dust clouds. I always use the shield when it's raining, or when I'm getting a bit cold [I ride frequently throughout the Pennsylvania Winters] ...
I find it very uncomfortable to have no glasses on under my helmet. I always felt that EYESIGHT is 2nd in line to TIRES when it comes to motorcycle safety equipment... maybe even #1 .. If I can see where I'm going.. the condition of the bike isn't going to be my biggest concern.
What do you think Kevin?
Plexus is magic and should be worshipped. Also only rub the visor one way either side to side OR up and down. This procedure is reccommended by the FAA for cleaning aircraft windshields. Aircraft windshields are made from the same material as motorcycle visors. Have a great ride.
Love my Shoei RF-SR with blue chrome tinted visor
clear visor and glasses is the best choice.... however what if you wear glasses to see? I think its better to have a pinhole visor (tinted) and clear visor or just have a minimal tint... I mostly commute during daylight so mirror visor would suit me the best, or transition visor (if its an option for the helmet)
Scorpion has the internal type, I like them. My commute has me in the rising and setting sun, and being able to flip it on and off is safer for me.
I can’t use googles cause I wear prescription glasses. I got a Harley Davidson full face modular helmet that has the internal spring action dark visor. Come to find out the helmet is an HJC even though it has Harley plastered all over it. I plan buying an HJC pin lock for it too.
Love the show could you make a video on recommending how to tell helmets apart to choose the safest helmet
I have this one. ua-cam.com/video/Cu2W-ZzD71E/v-deo.html
I always use sunglasses and clear visor.
Na man you need to look cooler
@@toebean4 hahaha
I just got an 07 Raider helmet for free. Good condition exept for the visor which is scratched up. Looking for a new visor
I have a Shoie GT Air helmet with a drop down visor. My only issue with it is when it is cold outside but the sun is out. The drop down visor fogs up quickly. I have not tried putting any anti-fog spray on it to see if that will help.
Clear visor and sunglasses.
Looking for more info on helmets that accommodate my prescription glasses. I get the modular are not as safe, but hey, I can put on the helmet over my specks, when I use one.
Hey Kevin, another great vid'. I have an HJC FG-ST with the internal visor and it is, as is the IS-17 SHARP 5 star rated, so I figure there's little or no compromise on safety. Wadya reckon?
Sup!
I really need help, i am looking for a comptiable visor for my THH Ts 80 helment
On amazon and ebay they only got dark smoke and the clear i am lookong for a colourful visor
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Next update to this video you may want to touch on the issue of having to wear reading glasses while wearing a helmet + face shields and/or goggles.
Great video
Scheuberth c3 is super nice....pricey.
Just know that the photochromic visors have a finite lifespan. Outside elements, UV rays, and the keratin from bug exoskeletons (which is also in your finger nails, believe it or not), will eat away at the visor. At the moment, it's not worth the price for me. I usually have good experiences with aviators under a clear visor.
Hi, you can get photochromic pin locks which are protected by the external visor including UV. But the aviators are way cooler.
@@trig I don't think so, but even then they have a finite life span. There are some videos of new vs a year old and it's roughly half the tint. It will obviously vary with weather and heat.
Sun glasses and a clear visor also works pretty well.
Thats what i use.
Just take them off when it gets dark
double visor helmet
Tips tips tips tips 10/10
My helmets have clear face shields and I wear sunglasses. It gets dark and I put my sunglasses in my pocket.
I did that once, then it started raining 🤕
I always thought you had a glass eye!
nope, all me...
MCrider love the videos! Your helmet looks bad ass!!
I've found that the chrome/silver reflective visor to be pretty good for day/night riding. Now it does make it darker but nothing like having a true tinted visor on at night... That's just way too dark. I wear glasses. So other than buy super expensive shades I just deal with the trade off!
You could consider one of those clip-on dark lenses to put on your prescription glasses. It looks dorky, but you're in helmet so nobody sees it :)
MGL I'll look into that! Thanks.
Sunglasses and clear visor is my regular choice, also have the built-in dropdown visor.
Mojo Man when I use to ride, a lot of daytime riding minimal night time. I had a tinted shield with ansi approved clear slim glasses in my bag . I liked the combo.
Got an HJC IS-17 as well. Having an anti fog visor is nice, but what good is that for when the inner sun visor fogs up?
It helps to open the main visor just a notch to increase airflow. Got a better solution?
One of my helmets is the HJC IS-Max modular model. I find that with the vents open, the sun visor will not fog up, however outer visor sometimes does, depending upon relative humidity and riding speed, unless the outer visor is cracked open slightly. Another concern is that, theoretically, that sun visor could give me a nasty cut on the nose should I crash with the thing actuated, because my nose is somewhat aquiline. I love the way the actuation is instantly canceled by tapping the release button, though. Try treating both the sun visor and the outer visor with an anti-fog treatment product.
Wheeljack2k I have used Rainx inside and outside of my helmet. I ride all year on the Gulf of Mexico deep South. What ever kind of weather we have its working for me. You can use some bar soap and rub it onto the inside of your visor. Wipe clean no water. You won't get ANY fog from breathing. Test that on the bathroom mirror! I've been riding for 40 years so this stuff is readily available to you just about where ever you happen to end up. I keep the rainx in my bags. Ok then! Stay off out of tha ditches! Turtle
Have fun! Turtle
Within the helmet construction, the flip down visor is sandwiched between the outer shell and the EPS liner giving the same amount of protection to the rider.I myself have the HJC with this facility and it brill.
After going through two other helmets and not satisfied, finally got the Shoei RF1200 with the photochromic transitions shield. I have never had a fog issue and the bright light has not been an issue. I am brown eyed so I may be less sensitive. I wish I had started out this way. Would have saved me a lot of money! That's my two cents! Gonna go buy some Plexus now. Thanks Kevin!
Are you still using this photochromic shield?
Excellent video, I've opted for the clear with drop down visor so that I can flip it up for tunnels and parking garages during the day. I'm gonna give Plexus a try, thanks for the tip.
most rational decision imho...
I like to have 2 visors in 1 clear under and dark above so I can just flick the dark one up. right tab for dark. left for both
This guy is awesome. Heart of gold for sure.
Yeah, my Shoei helmet has a inner dark shield for sun as well as the outer clear visor. That's why I bought that one specifically, as it was more expensive for that feature. It's my first helmet, as I am a new rider, and I've used it for sun already. Happy with it. Thanks for your videos.
Is the dark shield polarized?
@@x-man5056 Hey. This post was a long time ago and I no longer have the helmet, so I can't check.
I would never buy a street helmet that doesn't have the internal sun visor. It's super convenient when riding in and out of shade, especially in forests and mountains late in the evening. I usually carry sunglasses with me as well, because you often want them when you get to wherever it is that you're going. A clear face shield is fine, but most helmets have a lightly smoked option that I get if I need to replace a scratched or cracked face shield only because I think it looks a little better and it's still easy enough to see at night.
Schuberth C3 Pro with drop down sun visor...perfect for me as I wear spectacles
A little detail you may have missed with the plexus. I don't think I'd recommend using it on mirrored visors as it may eat through the mirror coating on the exterior of the visor. Once that starts chipping off, you're left with a spotty mid-level smoked visor from the inside, and a patchy mirror finish on the outside.
.....IMHO: It's increasingly unpleasant to be wearing, or looking thru multiple layers of plastic visor lenses!!! Can't somebody make one SUPERB "GRADIENT-TINTED", "TRANSITION" LENS???!!!.....THAT RESISTS FOGGING, OR HOLDING ONTO DIRT AND DUST?!...
To be honest, I really like the look of a dark visor. It gives you that sick “unknown” look that I really like!
For those of you that wear glasses and ride in the cold. The only combo I have found that works is a pinlock and contacts. If I just use the pinlock my glasses fog up. So when its really cold I use the contacts and the pinlock and get no fogging.
I have been using a C3-Pro with a dark visor for daytime riding. When things get really bright, I use the built-in drop-down sun visor also. It's the only way to go near sunrise and sunset. I carry a spare clear visor for rain and dark.
your vids are just the best...thank you so much for who you are and your presentations...love the info I learn from you.
One thing I like about my Scorpion helmet is that it came with both clear and tinted visors in the box, and they're really easy to swap out, so if I'm going to a rally or out of town where I know I might end up in the dark, I always take the clear one with me.
Kevin, your advice on the Pinlock system was timely last year, I ride all year in the UK and we get a lot of cool/cold/wet weather and this winter was the first with crystal clear vision and I thank you for that. Can't recommend it enough if you ride all weathers or colder climates. The plexus is good and prolongs the visor life. I wear glasses and I've found not having them pressed up close to my face helps with fogging....also have plastic lenses helps too, glass always fogs. Love Major!
I've tried the pinlock system off and on but it never really seams to keep my visor crystal??? I use the InVision Hyper shield, it's a bit tricky to stick on but the gasket is thicker than that of the pinlock and no matter how heavy I breath they never fog up. I'm down here in Cornwall (UK) so know where you're coming from :)
I went pinlock after Kevin's suggestion last year as well. Ended my fogging issues.
only been watching these vids for the past two weeks and they are real good. Like MC Rider, i have been riding bikes since 1978 and now ride a 98 heritage springer and a 2012 Muscle...... and will be 60 this year............but we are all still just learning every time we throw our legs over our scooters................thanks for the videos bro...
I use the hjc internal visor. Works perfectly fine for me. I also wear eyeglasses so I got the thin memory wire frames. On my non hjc helmet I use a series of clip on sunglasses of different colors and degree of darkness. All good. I care a cotton face cloth wet with a non amonia soap spray on it in a Ziploc bag. Clean the visor at every coffee stop
I live in N.W. Indiana, I use Z-Clear on my helmet shield and glasses to reduce fogging. In less its below freezing then I still get a little fogging around the edge of my shield.
Good information Kevin.
One product you didn’t bring up is the SuperVisor attachment that adds the equivalent of the extended bill much like that MCrider baseball cap that you wear. It attaches to the flip up visor with strong 2 face tape, yet is vented at the top to minimise the effects of the wind blast to the profile of the helmet. The shadow it casts across the face is significant during the day, but I find it’s best selling point is the ability it provides you for riding into the low horizon sun in the early morning or late evening commute. Just dip your head down a bit and the sun is blocked like a car’s windshield visor. Between my clear visor, prescription sun glasses, and SuperVisor, I can ride any time of day or night without issues.
Not bad for a $20 investment.
As always you make some of the best videos on the channel; many thanks!
FYI: Wiley X makes many styles of sunglasses including models with a sealing material around the frame, as you showed. They are optically correct, certified shatter proof (might be handy on a motorcycle) and readily available in many places, including amazon. Some models have the lens seal is removable. I have worn these for many years for many sports and differing equipment; everyday, motorcycle, atv, horseback, airplane and helicopter flying, water and snow skiing!
Also, the Honda spray cleaner is about 1/3 rd. the price and has better reviews than plexus. Good Rides
Bell makes a single piece "double pane" visor (like a pin-lock) that you can swap into their Vortex, Revolver EVO, RS-1 and certain model years of the Star helmet. They were created for snowmobile use, but fit fine on motorcycle helmets also. I have one and it works great... no fogging at all. They also have an electric heated visor for several of the same helmets. It takes a little searching, but they're out there available on-line.
Hi Kevin
Great info on visors, especially the cleaner. Already ordered a can. I have the same HJC IS17 helmet. I am really curios what mount you have on it for the camera. I just cant seem to find a good chin mount for my camera. Thanks for the great show every week. always look forward to it.
Here ya go. ua-cam.com/video/VhO_X3nF3GQ/v-deo.html
Thanks for the quick response. I guess I only started subscribing after that video.
no no no , Always= ALWAYS keep clear visor!!!! keep cheep /construction safety glasses= fits tight to face .. they come in dark.. yellow and clear... i like the dark.. they double as torch glasses ..lol
Hello, are you in Canada? I agree about Plexus! What about polarized clip on sunglasses for my trifocals or progressive glasses? I bought a Sena helmet with a clear shield and pin lock inner shield. When I looked down at my BMW dash, I could not see it, so the issue is the polarized lens, with the glasses lens, and further the pin lock layer. Too many layers and the polarization is also the problem. I now need to buy a shaded face shield, $100 Canadian! That would include a pin lock, too. Is this why all shades face shields are not polarized, since that is designed for looking at the ocean, etc? Help! I am afraid I will buy the shaded and pin locked shield, strip off the sticker advertising and again go to ride away and not be able to see my dash. Will need to convince the sales person to allow pin lock installation, cellophane advertising sticker removal, and shaded shield install, before actually riding away with it, since then I will own it. Complicated....
My major peeve is riding into the low, evening sun, shortly before sunset. Even a tinted visor or sunglasses sometimes aren't enough, or it catches you off guard when you turn into it. I have tried a strip of darkly tinted film at the top inch or so of my visor; works well, but not very durable. I just got a great looking device from Sunax (www.sunax.com.au/). Made in Germany, sold in Australia. It is a thin tinted band that fits very snuggly between the helmet shell and liner. They make specific models for Arai helmets. They are spendy, but look like the answer to my problem.
Has anyone ever experienced what I call Sun blast? It's not riding straight into the Sun. I ridden for hours on end straight into the Sun and it is reasonably easy to defeat straight on Sun light with good UV glasses and dark visor. What I'm talking about is when it is nearly Sundown and the beams of light are shooting through the trees and bushes. It is like a very rapid fire kaleidoscope coming at you from the side. If you've never experienced that, you are lucky. It will make you go into and out of paralysis and scare the hell out of you. I hope I've described this well enough. I'm thinking without the trees and shrubbery this would'nt occur. I think also it is concurrent with how the Sun sets with the equinoxes. I have experienced this only two times and both times it was late October and about or very near Sundown.
Kevin, great videos and a great show. Despite my many years riding there's always something new to learn. I am a half helmet rider and am looking into the purchase of a full face or open face helmet but can't decide which way to go. Can you help with pro's and cons of each?
I´m not Kevin but I would suggest a flip-up (in the US called modular) full-face helmet. I have a Schuberth C3 pro which is the same as most European police forces. I have no stock in Schuberth
Go full face. 34% of head impacts to motorcycle riders happen to the jaw and lower face zone. It is the highest impact area by far of the whole helmet.
Really like the hjc modular with drop down tinted visor and clear outer.
Added pinlock and chin curtain.
why do Amercians need to put a different name on everything? it's a visor, a face shield is something you wear using a chainsaw or a garden strimmer,
and how hard is it to change the visor to a clear one when it starts to get dark? better than riding around with those stupid little goggles on that's for sure.
Great video that taught me some things. Use Plexus with a microfiber cloth BTW, not a paper towel (!).
Because I ride a lot during colder weather, usually as low as 45 degrees. The Pinlock has been a saving for my riding..
I Must admit smoked visor with pinlock works best for me as glasses wearer
Even at night as all the reflections aren’t there
FYI I know this is old but for others watching, you CAN buy better sun visors. Schuberth for instance has like 4 different ones that get more powerful sun screening and reflection.
Watch at 1.5x speed
removing insects from a screen is very easy. use a napkin or a soft piece of paper. put it on the screen make it wet, and leave it for a few minutes and then wipe it off your screen.
What I do is keep in my tunnel bag a small bottle of glasses cleaner I get from my optometrist. It has no ammonia or alcohol. I also keep a microfiber cloth. I can stop and clean bugs off on my trip.
I would think with all the tech available today that a pair of tinted contact lenses would be readily available on the open market. I don't wear contacts but that seems like a too simple option to me that I've never seen or even heard of.
Good overview Kevin. We have used a KLIM TK1200 Modular helmet with the Transitions face shield and pin lock for the past year. It works so well we never need any additional glasses. My wife's eyes are very sensitive to light. She used to have to were dark glasses with a face shield. She now only wears dark glasses when she takes the helmet off. The shields go completely clear at night.
Hey Larry, been considering the TK1200 along with the E-1 & C4 from Schuberth plus waiting to see the new Neotec 2 from Shoei. What are your overall impressions of that helmet as far as sound, comfort, etc.? Also, do you have comm units on them? If so, which did you get? They look as if they might not accept the majority of comm units on the market without doing some cutting to the neck roll tabs. Thanks!
We have UClear Pro's installed, we did not have to cut anything to install, even the dual microphones under the brow line lining. Most of the internal padding snaps out. We opted for the UClear Pulse Pro speakers. The KT1200 is quieter than the Arai RX-Q it replaced. I used to ride a Suzuki M109R and most helmets vibrated so bad at speed I thought my brain would get scrambled. The Arai and the Klim did not vibrate from wind buffeting. Comfort: the low weight of this Carbon Fiber helmet makes it easy to wear all day. Last May we rode 486 miles in one day with strong cross winds in New Mexico, Arizona and Utah on a HD Ultra Limited. We did not experience any neck or shoulder discomfort. Our bottoms did not fare so well! One day on that trip we rode in rain and snow the full day, about 200 miles. With the pin locks in place we did not have any fogging or water making its way to our faces. I can honestly say the Klim TK1200 is the most comfortable helmet I have owned. I hope this information helps.
Larry Tomlinson Thanks again. I’ll look into the UClear Pro. Been using Sena products for years & like them, never tried others except the SRC System on my C3-Pro. Both my helmets have pinlocks, unfortunately I wear glasses & they fog up for a while. Once the acclimate they are fine. On my 2nd HD Ultra Limited, a 2017. Had the 2011 until last year. Rode over 700 miles in a day twice on the ‘11, I know what one’s butt feels like after that! 😬
Another couple of quick questions, Larry. You say you opted for the Pulse Pro speakers, I see them online. Why did you do that, stock speakers bad; better clarity and/or sound; better fitment? Any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks.
Another couple of quick questions, Larry. You say you opted for the Pulse Pro speakers, I see them online. Why did you do that, stock speakers bad; better clarity and/or sound; better fitment? Any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks.
A few weeks ago, I bought a new helmet as the old one (Shoei Multitec) had its 9th birthday and didn't feel nice anymore. Never had any issues with it though, it was just the inside comfort foam that was hardened due time. It had a gradually tinted visor (clear on the bottom, medium tinted at the top) which was great, but not perfect in low-light conditions (full shaded areas, tunnels and at night time).
My new helmet is (again) a Shoei, the Neotec 2017 series in plain white. Many improvements, better aerodynamics and with a build-in drop-down sun visor. The "parking space" for this visor, does not reduce the material thickness of the impact foam in the shell. Instead, at this spot the shell has a bulge which provides space for the sun visor. So, in the case the safety is not compromised. It should never do.
By the way... Did you know that Pinlock is a Dutch invention?... I use it since 1996, back then it had a plastic foil that protected the permanent glue around the edge, so to install it, you had to remove that foil and stick it (very carefully) onto the visor. You just had one chance to do it right. This had some flaws, as the glue did not seal perfectly resulting in water vapor between visor and shield. A few years later, the silicone gasket and pins were introduced, which is still a proven recipe. I wouldn't want it any other way, it's easy to adjust the tension, it's easy to remove for cleaning, it's perfect, I LOVE it!
I always carry your option in the tank bag
Did you miss anything? Yes. LCD visor. The latest technology. I have never tried one but saw one at the Motorcycle Show.
I knew about LCD visors for welding lenses, but not for MC visors, I'll have to look into that. Thanks!
www.webbikeworld.com/ami-powersports-akari-ax12-review/
Thanks for bringing that up. I just did a UA-cam search and it looks like AGV had a version out two years ago. I'm not sure of other manufacturers but it seems like the only downside according to the Revzilla review was that it couldn't go completely clear, the lightest it would go was a light smoke color.
I would like a clear visor, could I buy prescription glasses that auto darken ?
Bell Qualifier DLX MIPS, comes with a transition visor - best visor ever.
Can you do an episode on safely lane splitting when and where it's legal?
Great info! One tip that really helped me was putting a couple of strips of black electrical tape across the top of the visor. Helps alot when the sun is lower on the horizon, and beaming into my eyes.
what the name and model for the Helmet you have it there.
Hi Rasheed, there is a link for it here: www.amazon.com/shop/mcrider
It is a GREAT helmet, review coming soon.
MCrider Thanks
Thanks for the review Kevin. Good information. By the way, Major is a handsome lad!
Being a guy who wears glasses... have to use the drop down visor option...
my inner visor won't pull down further abit wat do I do???
I use Lemon Pledge to clean my visors. Works fine and doesn't scratch the visor.