Trail Braking You Can See
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2023
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Can you make other video focus
The camera to the throttle
Can you make marker different color red or blue so we can see
If use full throttle or zero throttle
Same thing you did here but more on marker if full or zero throttle then .
What is best timing for example
This video the road downhill
If throttle in a full do you need to
Make it zero throttle or just maintain because speed downhill if double kph .
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Today your advice just saved me. Blind corner, narrow twisty road, 70mph and electricity service truck standing in the lane without any usual warning signs. I was trailbraking and all I had to do was to squeeze the brake a bit more to slow down while maneuvering to avoid crash. Cheers from Russia )
I am a new rider too and just wanted to say this is the best video I have watched so far. Being able to watch everything you are doing helped me so much. As a visual learner, this video was immensely helpful for actually SEEING cornering (drawing the pink line like you described in a previous video), acceleration, braking, etc. Also, some people tend to talk through the entire video and give out WAY too much information at one time. There is plenty of time in this video that you aren't talking at all, or are only commenting "brake, lean, trail, stand up, accelerate." When there are too many words my brain gets lost and has a harder time focusing on the technique being modeled. So in my opinion this video was perfectly made and I learned more from this 15 minute video than I have in the last 2 months of private coaching and practicing. THANK YOU!
Yes, it's much better than all the other videos on trail braking where they talk about it for 10 minutes without showing even one example of riding
This is exactly what I'm trying to learn right now, and this video makes things much clearer.
My instructor gave me advice on how to do it, but seeing it as if from your POV and how you're using the brake and the throttle is just so valuable for me.
Cheers!
This camera angle and video concept was great. Also, you're a badass rider and give us a lot to think about as we become better riders.
Brilliant video. Its one thing to watch someone explain trail-braking, but seeing it like this with a dedicated camera made all the difference ! Many thanks !
I like that idea of keeping your two fingers covering the brakes...When I was doing my Leaner's course, you were not allowed to cover your brakes for the emergency stop assessment ..which did not sound right to me in real life applications...having said that I like how you break it all down in percentages...your opening my eyes to good techniques....I have just acquired my full open class license the other day and it has taken 3 years to get there....but there is so much more I want to learn in order to build that skillset that I want...
I am a beginner rider. I really appreciate your dedication and time to teach us about riding. No one will explain all riding techniques like you do. Thank you!
Yeah don’t do this. Trail braking with your front brake is exactly how you lose the front wheel and drop the bike. This guy clearly doesn’t know what he’s doing.
@@zimvader25thank goodness we have you here to tell us the proper way to ride a motorcycle. I almost listened to the multitudes of people who ride fast for a living…
I'm extremely new at all this and I'm learning so much from you and the classes I've been taking, and I'm just starting out with my new jet 14 200cc scooter
Hey, I'm returning to motorcycling after an 8 year break. This kind of content wasn't a thing really when I learned to ride. Hoping to undo some awkwardness I picked up by just guessing how to ride. I'm glad you make these videos.
Fantastic video. I’m nearly finished my first year of riding in the UK. Starting to learn and utilise some of the more advanced techniques. It’s definitely something to aspire to 😍
Im one month in to my riding and this all looks way to scary to me. I think i will take it easy for a long while before i start learning this kind of stuff. Great video though
please make more videos with this angle, as someone just learning more and more about bikes and considering getting one, this angle puts into perspective what is actually going on when you say certain terms and as you said having the visual there helps a lot.
Yeah. This is the one. You've nailed it Greg.
Excellent instruction. I have been doing this for years, but I mostly learned from champ school videos and motogp slow motion videos. This camera view and throttle lines were great.
The perfect video i wanted to see
I love the way you pointed the camera at your hand while providing information about throttle percentage
Love your videos❤️
I think people are asking if the speedometer is in km/h because on the video it doesn't seem you're riding that fast. Perhaps because of the camera field of view, maybe lack of wind noise, I don't know. I mean, at 1:48 onward you're going 62 mp/h, which is 100 km/h. When I'm going 100 km/h (I'm from Europe, so we use kilometers) on a bike it seems faster in real life than watching the video.
Or it's just me... I would be interested to hear why others think it's in km/h.
exactly!
Finally... explained and visualized. THANK YOU! The camera angle and the markings on the throttle is what made it finally "click" for me. This is my 10,453 video watched on trail braking, and I finally learned something. Nicely done.
People ask about the units because they're being generous in their assumption regarding speeding. I would not normally have my speedo in view, to put it mildly.
Its WARP speed … - just to let you know … - now get of your high horse, and enjoy life as long as you have it ! … 😊
Because the world is metric, almost nobody on Earth uses imperial units, except for the USA, Myanmar and Liberia.
UK uses MPH, it makes a lot of sense, I’ve used both and prefer MPH.
@@ragetobe I prefer m/s. Makes the equations simpler.
@@grevenstjube What high horse might that be? Pointing out that it's a terrible idea to provide video evidence for the bureaucrats to use against MJ?
This is absolute best riding video I've watched. I ride an Indian Scout 60 and twisted a throttle for the first time in my life on June 24, 2023. This video was a total game changer for me. Thank you so much! The way you explain things just makes sense to me. I love how you explain basic mechanics of the bike and incorporate physics. But your videos have exponentially increased my understanding and riding ability in a very short time. That being said, I also practice a ton and have put over 3000 miles on her in 3 months. Thanks again! ❤❤❤
Kick ass video. Very comprehensive and good position for the camera on the throttle hand.
Greg, I've been learning, and enjoying, your last two videos on trail braking. They have fully cemented the process in my mind, more so with that "B-Triple-T". I'm also seeing the practicality in appliance the brakes when it's obviously necessary, versus, trail braking (for me it was confusing at first); and this video brings that out! BTW, that portion when you came up to those 3 vehicles made me wince: the first two could've decided they wanted to turn left, despite the solid line (it's happened to me before); and no doubt you caught the first one by surprise! Thanks, amigo. Semper Fi!
glad to help
Thank you so much for posting this! I’ve always thought I understood the concept until I saw what you did here! Beautiful work, beautiful video, thank you!!
THANKS MotoJitsu for what you do! This additional camera and viewpoint is AWESOME!
Thank you very much for this video. now I know I can brake in a single turn with my GS 👍👍
You make the best and most instructive videos sir. Your explanations and instructions are so clear and precise. Thanks for making them.
All those years being single finally paying off, my right hand is ready to handle brake and throttle at the same time ;)
I tried trail braking yesterday and was afraid that my thumb would roll the throttle too much while braking. Then I thought WAIT MY THUMB CAN DO THAT?!? All these people saying you should twist the throttle like an ice cream cone finally making sense! It's the thumb and small fingers working together for speed while the large fingers cover the front brake, and as your thumb rolls back from the throttle that's when your large fingers have more leverage, and vice versa. But that leaves my thumb in an awkward spot for leverage while braking. But I'll watch more of these awesome videos and get used to things.
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Can you please do another one of these vids angles close up of down shifting with rev matching. Thank you this helps so much.
that tape with markings on gas is such a win!
thanks...check this out too ua-cam.com/video/Vv5MqVX2LNs/v-deo.html
@MotoJitsu at this point, I have binge watch all of your videos at least once. Some I will rewatch when I get there.
thanks for watching
Great advice and technique. People ask about the speed since your going 115 mph on a surface road with cross traffic. I only go that fast on the CA freeways.
Absolute great video, what an awesome idea to film your hand, its way easier for me to follow what you're talking about! :) This gives me way more confidence.
Awesome! Thank you!
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Best trail breaking video. Thanks. That right hand camera really helps.
thanks
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That was a fantastic video mate - really enjoyed it. You make it look so easy xx
These are all useful videos and I get the idea but I still don't understand what the "trail" in "trail breaking" refers to. Is that that you "trail off" the breaking pressure before a phase of maintaining speed, or is that more general - that you trail off the speed while making a turn contrary to slowing down only before the turn?
I understand trail breaking the following way: once approaching the turn with no visible exit, first smoothly roll off the throttle, second if needed apply the break and lean the bike, increase the break pressure if needed, three when you see the exit smoothly trail off the break and roll on throttle.
KUDOS on this format of 2 camera demonstration!! I really enjoyed it. Can I suggest you try a 4 camera setup with the clutch caliper and rear brake added? Yes I know that is maybe a bit munch, but as an instructional setup it might be useful. Again just a thought even if it is unsolicited. :)
Maybe it is just me, at this point, that I favor the rear brake in the twisties (I practice on Thorton Gap in VA, 211 VA, and the Rawley Pike / Blue Grey Trail WV) to shorten the geometry. I find these gaps challenging due to their radiuses and sometimes asphalt conditions since I have to deal with last season's frost heave conditions. Yeah, a few pucker moments a few weeks ago - LOL - but I navigated them, clearly, well enough and was able to still do some portions of the Mid-Atlantic BDR on a Sport Tourer (2013 Yamaha FZ6R). However, I realize I am still learning especially to use both brakes at the same time and getting comfortable with the 1-4-5 (Thumb-Ring-Pinky) throttle grip in the turns to keep the steady tension for the 75% of the curve and slide off the front caliper for the last 25% of the turn for acceleration. I enjoyed seeing how you "slipped" off the brake caliper during this demonstration - something for me to practice. It showed the smoothness of the transition I need to work on.
I know I have my skills gaps still and there will always be more to learn, which is why I follow your videos to improve my overall skills. So thank you for your due diligence in helping us aspire for better skills other than just surviving the road. Thanks for reading and Be safe out there in San Diego. :)
My questions were answered this time! Front brake, rear brake or Engine brake all load the front suspension. Front brake likely more front suspension load but more slowing as well. For my type of driving, the rear brake works best for me, but always realize the rear brakes may not be enough. Thanks.. I was having trouble feathering the front brake without dropping the speed too much. The rear no problem feathering the brake for minimal reduction in speed.
All depends on the pace you’re going
Awesome, nice view and ride, bit jealous because i got no fair and nice long road like that to go and stay around 70mph, with bike that big i might be stuck at 1-2gear most of the time here lol
Great video. I watch your stuff and learn all the time.
I think about trail breaking. At least the trouble I’m having. I know the roads pretty well and I know what my speed limit is so I’m always in this position where I’m naturally breaking a little bit before the corner.
I’ve tried a couple times to come in Hot then trail brake , when doing so it works great. the trail breaking on the pikes Peak is rather aggressive so by the time I get on the brakes I’m going too slow. Lol definitely a little bit tricky.
Thanks for this, seen a few trail brake clips but this is the dogs danglies 🤓😎
nice as always from you ;-)
Ps. probely alot of Europe checks out your stuff. TIP to users about mph vs Kmh just ask google = mph vs kmh :)
Great video thanks. Unbelievable speeds you’re controlling the bike at! And looks like the road is mostly uphill. Would like to know what you do if there is unexpected oncoming overtaking traffic when you are at 90mph 😮
Love your videos! I believe people ask if your doing kmh instead of mph, because so often you're going 90 in a posted 35 zone.😊
Thanks for everything you've done, to help us new guys !!
Been practising this for a while now,it became so natural i thought i maybe doing it wrong so came back to check. Thanks
my english is not great, so basically, if you want to engage corners faster and safer, you need to turn off the throttle, apply a little brake with the front brake before the corner(when the bike is still straight up) and all the way during the corner until you see the exit and then you release the brake and start throttle? is that it?
The only thing that is important is to NOT START using the front brake during the corner while the bike is leaned?
The hand-cam is super useful, thanks for this demo!
Hands down the best explanation and visual I’ve seen. Thank you sir. Today I will ride a lil bit harder
Glad you like the video
@@MotoJitsu on the real though. I went out to the canyons yesterday with a small group and was actually able to not only keep up but push a lil harder. It’s hella cheesy but this video honestly did help me out. Can’t say thanks enough for guys out there like you. Salute 🫡
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I'm leaning a lot with you my instructors told me not to use break while cornering bc I would lose traction but I see u doing it differently than what I thought
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hands down...no other class, video, vip training or 1 on 1 class will trump this video or the slew of other videos you have on riding and technique... you should have 50M + subs.. would be less fatalities on 2 wheels worldwide.... God Bless and keep kickin out that content!.Semper FI brotha
Thank you brother. Once again you nailed it with your video. Now to try this on my streetglide.
This was really good to see. Wish there was a way to see the rear brake light as it would allow me to view you entering the corner and out of corner of eye I could see when the brake was on. Hard to flick eyes to pip etc. Actually you just saying it would help too…
Good vid!!! , just one point though for us uk riders, if we cover the brake it’s a rest failure, don’t know about the US🤔 (test)🤨
Do you have any inputs on the rear brake during your "tip" or only at the first braking to slow down?
Excellent. Best cornering video so far! Appreciate the channel.
Excellent video - well explained and great camera(s) visuals. Thank you very much for the learnings.
This is SOOOO cool to have a second camera on throttle and throttle with label like that.
Great video as usual !
Grip camera view - excellent !
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60 to 100 mph speed most of the time on 4 th gear !! The gear ratio of GS is taking care of it ? Very nice video and amazing skill!! Trail breaking nicely demonstrated ❤
4th gear on the bike has a wide, wide range :)
Maybe your best video! More people need to see this!
I find it looks like kmh just because you're so skilled and so smooth that it looks like there is no way you're doing 3 digits through corners. I know it's mph, but you're so good that you make it look like kmh
This is awesome. Because no one shows this type of video
Thank you again for sharing your knowledge. To be able to see how you use the throttle and the brake...👌🏻
This video is very helpful for me as I'm a beginner rider with a few miles in my hands. Because of I don't have "hi-tech" bike like you, I'd appreciate another similar video, perhaps with an older bike, with second camera pointing on left hand to see your clutchwork as well - how crazy, I know :D
Btw: I know he has quick shifter, and doesn’t use the clutch while riding in this video - that's why I wrote he has a "hi-tech" bike... By my comment I meant that I'm interested in how he use normal clutch combined with use of front brake and gas during up or down shifting on twisties like this. Thank's for comments.
If you're beginner i think you should stick to the fundamentals before advancing to more technical riding. To much to absorb to quick. That would be my guidance to my Son.
@@lumberjaxe8910 You are 100% right. I'm just curious. Thank you for your answer ;)
Bro, u don't need any high tech rider aid to trail brake. You just need brakes ,which I'm sure your bike has.
Not much is happening on the left at that speed. Probably it will be very good for the drills(slow speed practice) and also a camera on the rear brake.
He doesn’t use the clutch while riding, because his bike has a quick shifter.
Nice demo! I like this format. Thanks!
This is some terrific advice. I'm a new rider, recently passed the CMSP in San Diego and bought my first motorcycle (used 2019 G310R!). Been riding in the city so far, nothing crazy but want to make it up to Julian/Palomar Mountain areas eventually. This will be so helpful when I get there (and to practice until I do).
If you happen to see this, I had a question about body positioning: You mentioned around the 9:10 mark in the video that you're not moving your body all that much (not moving your butt out of the seat, etc.).
I've seen some of your recent videos on instagram where you talk about body positioning / lean angle / moving the butt out of the seat (and elbows, head forward, etc.). So is that something you'd only need to do when riding at higher speeds and more aggressive (shorter) corners like the twisties?
Most people don't need to move their body on the street unless you're going at a pretty quick pace or just practicing...but it's way more important to focus on the basics first: vision, throttle control, braking and countersteering.
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@@MotoJitsu Thank you! SoCal Supermoto is definitely on my list, and a few of the other ones you recommend too.
all are good
Your videos are the best to the topic. Congratulations and many thanks!
EXCELENT !!! special at the end of video..
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On a cable throttle the movement is even less, on account of how sensitive it gets in its active region.
Thank-You Eddie! That's a perfect lesson!
Glad you liked it!
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Oh man, you're very talented but watching this had me worrying for you. You fast af boi! It's not your driving per se, but that cagers often crossing into the other lane while on their phones etc. Stay safe man!
The best lessons ever. Thank you.
Best video yet Greg. Great idea!
I kind of have a Braking advantage while riding my Honda Silverwing 600..it's an automatic, so I use both levers for braking. If I'm entering a right handed corner at speed, I use my left Hand Brake Lever to Trail Brake with. If I'm entering a Left Handed corner, I Trailbrake using my Right Brake Lever. After riding conventional motorcycles for over 35 years, the Silverwing is more fun to ride than my previous Bike, a Yamaha FJR1300...and that is saying something!
doesn't each lever control a different brake and trail brakintg should be the front brake
@@molarmassz My brakes are links front and back. I have more stopping power with the right lever, having 2 pistons on the front caliper. But, I can trail brake just as easily with either lever.
thank you for making such good video, It is great idea to have a go pro pointing at the angel of your break and throttle. I've learnt a lot from your video.
The kph v mph thing relates to how speed looks on the video. When you were doing 101mph it didn't look it on the video, that's why people are asking if your speedo is displayed in kph. Also, all euro bikes are in kph, except for UK.
The camera isn't good at showing big speeds. 👌
Great idea! But your camera needs to be down about 10°.
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Thats a very inspiring skill to practice !!! did you use any rear brake before entering the turn?
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This is probably a dumb question but i hope you help me with it: when you’re at 0% throttle, not on the brakes, and I guess just carrying speed through the corner, are you using the clutch at all? I’m always worried about stalling the bike or something if I’m not on the throttle at least a little bit.
No...the clutch is something you never touch unless you're shifting
Thank you for your passion in teaching good techniques ! 🏍️🌎🏍️🌎🏍️
I might have missed it, but are you using rear brake at all while cornering?
Beginner here, one question though- when you r leaned over and trail off the break, doesn’t it unloads the suspension while you are still leaned..
Well ok. Turns out there’s no mystery to trail braking at all. Thanks buddy!
Excellent demo
Awesome! I love your content man, keep goin! :)
thanks dude, great vid.
Just got a 1000sx! How do I handle the fear of a dirt or sand patch while cornering? Those loose rocks and dirt frequently landslide into the lane.
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Very nice - Thanks.
Thank you too!
True however, the safest option is to already be in a speed that you do NOT have to brake mid corner. End of discussion.
But, if you have to for some reason, then YES, Trail braking is definitely a safer option than to slam on brakes mid turn/corner.
Just remember that there is a risk with trail braking because excessive use of the front brake can result in a loss of grip as the tire's adhesion is split between braking and cornering forces. Effective trail braking requires finesse from the rider, which can be difficult to learn.
Trail braking is safer to learn and practice at any pace. Take more courses MotoJitsu.com/courses
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Great video thank you for all the great content
I can't believe you can cover that much ground without encountering potholes, crows eating road-kill, potholes, road apples, potholes, stones or firewood that bounced off a truck, potholes.
What about potholes lol
You forgot horse shit 😂
@@xB0RNFR0MPAINx Road apples?
@motojitsu can you please let me know which gloves you are using? thank you so much for all your videos 🙏
Look in description
Were you using only front break? Or are you also using back break also?
Very nice video but I feel like it would be more helpful if you put your speedometer in centimeters per minute, just saying
@motoJitsu : great and informative video as always!
Glad you liked it!
Great video. More of this plz.
When doing your initial brake before the curve are you using rear breaks and if so are you gradually rolling off before the curve starts or suddenly lifting off rear brake?
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I live in Chula Vista I love that road ❤
You're the true master..
Thanx for the videos!
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It would really help if you linked in the beginning of the video (or description) some other related videos you might have, e.g. correct breaking.
this seems so much easier with the auto blip throttle and long gears , im constantly having to revmatch on my bike and its tough keeping my hands over the lever while doing that. any tips other than "shutup and practice'?