Dude was the perfect size for all folks watching, including casual TV folks, gamers that follow Dynasty Warriors or ROTK, along with readers of the novel, as this Xu Chu displayed toughness, but was also naive and not the most intelligent beast either (at least in the beginning).
@@rlouie05 This is one of the best characters scenes in the series. My other favorite Xu Chu moment is when Diao Chan dies and Cao Cao tells him to go get 30 lashes. Then he says nevermind and Xu Chu is like nah I'll go take the lashes anways.
@@Pyx-AJ This Xu Chu was a departure from his Dynasty Warriors counterpart, where that game emphasized the "Tiger Fool" side of him in terms of personality, whereas this show displayed some elements of that simplistic side of him, where dude here was mostly a non-nonsense warrior who just wanted to get things done, yet knew who helped him & who his superiors were at the same time.
The actor for Cao Cao is amazing. Somehow he has the subtlety to act mad to show the viewer he is pretending to be angry and yet his character convinces everyone in the court that he is angry for being put into a political incident.
I like how the actor played it as an act of theater, because it is. Cao Cao never intended to kill his general. He just wanted to make a show of being upset, so other talented strategists aren't afraid to join him. When Cao Cao really wants someone beheaded, it's way more curt and immediate.
Xun Yu was one of the true Han loyalists, even more so than Liu Bei. Too bad his loyalty got him killed in the end when he voiced disagreement to Cao Cao's bid for kingship.
Lu Bu wasn't afraid of death per se. He was too proud and did not want to die in that manner, before he achieved his ambitions. Xu Chu however, was a simple-minded guy and did not concern himself with too much.
Xu Chu had several things in his favor going into "doing in" Xu You. From Cao Cao wanting the guy dead since he'd be a liability going forward, to how all of the generals wanting their lord to spare Xu Chu, with even Cao Pi jumping to his knees on his behalf. Dude must've been a great general that impressed so many of his peers to jump to his defense, including the crown prince of all men!
"得(get) 寸(an inch) 进(want) 尺(a foot)" is a Chinese idiom referring to "being insatiable". The translator carelessly presented the original meaning of the phrase.
@@xiaoyangwang8588 That is also what it means in English, it's just a joke about how in this case, the impertinent second request was also unusually minor.
@@alexanderchristopher6237 You just made me realize something, the Rotk Novel was the GOT of it's day when it came out hundreds of years ago. I have always compared Rotk to Shakespeare too, since that is a loose adaptaion of English history. GOT is also loosely based inspired by historical events for it's plot lines but mashed together from different eras.
@@vguyver2 the tv show does injustice to the actual song of ice and fire books anyways. Whether it's better than rotk or not is up to personal opinions
@@vguyver2 Martin takes inspiration from historical events. The moment the TV show people ran out of source material things went downhill fast. They can't write a compelling political show on their own. It turned into a silly dragons and zombies fantasy fest (which was never the reason most of us got into watching).
This is a really common Chinese proverb, and definitely one of my personal favorites. Although usually it's not used as an excuse to beg extra aid from someone after they just literally saved your head....
The horrified look on Cao Pi's face when he said that showed how much even the Cao kids cared for Xu Chu's well-being. When playing Dynasty Warriors 5 & Warriors Orochi, Cao Pi was portrayed as coldhearted, yet when Xu Chu is mentioned, he toned down the meanness quite a bit.
I love this scene so much, the inner personality and dynamic of Wei is revealed through the interactions and there is so many layers. I love how a specific Wei- way of management could be glimpsed looking at its lower tier, mid tier, and upper tier leaders and in the end they all reinforces each other.
God this is funny. You lopped off Xu You's head? He helped us defeat Yuan Shao and take Jizhou, and you lopped his head off? Xu Chu: just repay him with mine! Cao Cao: well said!
Everyone knows Zhuge Liang from Liu Bei’s side, but the best strategic advisors are all with Cao Cao. From Xun Yu, Xun You, Guo Jia, Chen Yu, Liu Hua in the earlier days to Jia Xu, Sima Yi etc in the later years. They probably had a combined IQ and EQ of 10,000.
I agree with all except Cheng Yu. Cheng Yu was super smart no doubt, but his accomplishments are little compared to the others on this list. Someone like Chen Qun or Liu Ye would be a better fit
That's why Kongming was side with undersdog like Liu Bei. Not only he will overshadow by those elite he will gain more achievement by showing he can do as much as those elite combine with his own buy making Liu Bei a strong warlord.
The secret to Cao Cao's victory over Lu Bu? Lu Bu only had one advisor in the form of Chen Gong with whom he often butted heads, Cao Cao on the other hand had a whole council of advisors and mind you this is Cao Cao, master of both pen and sword
I love Xu Chu and Cao Cao’s relationship in this series. In another scene, I think he kills Diao Chan and Cao Cao orders him to be whipped as punishment. Cao immediately says never mind and Xu says “no, I’ll take the punishment”
Diao Chan committed suicide and Xu Chu rushes in - thinking that she tried to kill Cao Cao with that legendary dagger - ands Cao Cao berated for for that :D
Xu Chu MEANT to kill Diao Chan after Xun Yu persuaded him to do it. But he arrives after she already killed herself and Cao Cao is more frustrated at being denied the conquest of the world's greatest beauty than he is angry at Xu Chu. He totally understands who sent Xu Chu and why, but his blood was up and he lashed out at his steadfast bodyguard. So many great scenes with those three.
It's almost like the writers were capable of executing long-form character development and interweaving key moments in the story as formative ones for the characters involved. Unlike, say, Game of Thrones.
Cao Cao and Liu Bei have to opposing styles of leadership....under Cao Cao, Zhang Fei would have learned discipline and Guan Yu would have learned humiliity because Cao Cao would not have put up with their shit. Liu Bei being their brother and owing much of his success to them, let them do whatever they wanted up to a point where they violated his personal code or newly cost him something he values...like when the brothers almost lost Zhuge Liang...or when Zhang Fei propose killing Pang Tong....
kamden madan after Zhang Fei was sent to see why he was doing shit when Liu Bei assigned him as govern a shit little county. Pang Tong had decided to leave and Zhang Fei wanted to kill him to keep him from joining someone else. Liu Bei stopped him and but Pang Tong decided to join them anyway so yeah...
@@ninjakid09 Xun Yu viewed Cao Cao as a capable regent until the Han emperor could reclaim their authority. When Cao Cao wanted to become duke (thereby formally establishing his autonomy), Xun Yu opposed this and died of 'illness' shortly thereafter.
Probably the most logical reason why he served cao cao instead of liu bei, is because he doesn't see liu bei worthy due to his ideals, while xun yu is a pragmatic han loyalist. He is still loyal to the han, but knows that the han system is already weak, corrupt and hoeplesss. He was already fine with the idea of a puppet emperor, and never opposed cao cao until he reached the rank of duke/prince of wei.
More like T&A + song & dance can distract attention away from your problems long enough for the storm to blow over. Poetry was one of the only vectors for consistently high quality entertainment back then. Master poets made big money when their works got wide circulation, and were essentially the most prestigious entertainers in China. How many people can an actual singer or dancer entertain? Even if they're amazing, they'll get snapped up and patronized by some rich lord. They'd make money, sure, but few outside of that lord's clique would get to appreciate their skills. Whereas with poetry, all it takes is a small army of scribes to copy the words onto various media. So those works could go far and wide, making poets like Chen Lin incredibly well known with fame rivaling that of high-powered lords and legendary officers. TL;DR: Having Chen Lin write good things about you is like having the Kardashians or Elon Musk front your product all across their reach networks.
I had no idea I wanted to watch a television series about a romanticized era of Chinese history, but this was amazing. The face Xun Yu makes at 5:02 is just so great XD. Best line of the scene 6:15, this guy is a freaking master, taking in all of Xu Chu's faults and his charms and using this moment as a chance to teach a huge lesson.
Cheng Yu kidnapped everyone in his hometown, mixed them into rice, and then fed them to Cao Cao's army.... Xiahou Yuan and Xu Zhu loved Cheng Yu's cooking.
"Outrageous, outrageous, outrageous!" *kicks shit off his table* I love the Cao Cao episodes, he's just a entertaining, good actor. I had trouble watching like after episode 20 since Cao Cao is less focused on, although after seeing more clips it seems like Old Cao Cao gets more episodes near the end so I'll probably force myself to watch it again.
Cao Cao's faux tantrum here is one of the top five moments of the series. I giggle uncontrollably the moment Xu Chu tosses the head. I can't even hold it back until the head hits the floor.
@@galezhang Specifically, I reckon this changes the course of inheritance. In the collectivist culture of the Chinese, it'd be a pretty big boon for the family.
The way that these scenes are laid out shows in longhand, how things are being shaped for everyone else. I say longhand because the economy of interest and agreement are sacrificed so the view can fairly easily see how the nuance of politics works...I think the best part of the act within the act is Cao Cao engaging in the open rhetorical Q and A, then the suggestion to have talented writers create an article to mirror the needed sentiments.. "The article will be most appropriately penned by Chen Li..." Cao Cao makes that unforgettable, resigned roll of the eye, designed to convey, " you got me, keep talking" as he sits. Just brilliant! We are aware that the selfsame Chen Li was brought before Cao Cao to explain himself, why he would bring 3 generations of Cao into infamy. It was so good, it cured Cao Cao of his headache...again, over-the-top, but this is the fullness of creative license with the intention of entertaining and, simultaneously enriching.
How do you think those guys in London feel? I once passed by a dude that had that job in London during a vacation there and I felt so bad I almost gave up several Euros to him in pity before I was told not to.
They would rotate after a certain number of hours. It’s called standing duty. There are more of them elsewhere in reserve or just on their off-day that switch with them later.
Xu Chu accepting the lashes, while Tsao Tsao tells him to forget about it after Diao Chan's suicide was another great scene and Xu Chu with the Emperor's Bow as a gift.
Xu Chu is very loyal to the Cao family that even Sima Yi didn't dare to kill the Cao family until Xu Chu passed away. Sima Yi then waited some time afterwards to make sure he is really dead before attacking the Cao family.
The best part is that he asks Xu Chu if he got in trouble "again" upon seeking the bag with a head in it. As if you there is just a running problem of Xu Chu going around decapitating people which then Cao Cao has to deal with
Wow..of All the Chinese movies I watched. Three Kingdoms is my Favorite..I Wept in Several parts .this movie is indeed Heart touching..I love the characters
I love how you can re-watch the scene and go ... wait for someone whose friend just got murderised... you seem initially pissed, but then later rather alright with reducing his murderer's punishment. And then you realize it was Cao Cao's actor acting one way but meaning something else. Jeez that guy should have gotten an oscar.
This is true in real life. Historically, Cao Cao, on the surface, didn’t mind Xu You’s disrespect. However, that was a facade since he bore a hidden grudge. After boasting that Cao Cao wouldn’t be able to enter Ye without his help, that was the final straw and Xu You was executed.
While in history, Xu Chu was never appointed as Chief Commander, through unearthed history record from ancient tomb, Xu Chu was given land, titles, and his family enjoyed huge wealth and prosperity from Cao Pi. He retired and was considered as one of few luckiest officers, being able to retire and enjoy the life of prosperity at the time when many other big generals either beheaded, died from sickness and overworked themselves.
I love how when Xu Chu walked up in the beginning it almost felt like a kid walking up to his dad knowing he did something wrong and was gonna get punished for it.
It's ancient Chinese version of 'please hold me so I can look mean and make threats' theatrics. Cao Cao was waiting for the moment to kick that table and feign outrage, even subvert the will of the Heavens (feat. Xun Yu). It also tells how important 'saving face' and maintaining reputation among peers is for the Chinese in their social norms.
It shows how good of a leader Cao Cao is compare to the other warlords. Lui Bei basically turn a blind eye when Zhang Fei lost their capital and Bei's family to Lu Bu due to Fei being a drunken. Here in this scene, we see Cao Cao took the rare chance to "punish" Xu Chu by forbiding him from drinking alchol, so he would no longer be addict to it and thus became a better general.
@@rlouie05 Lu Bu seems to believe that he would get a good deal should he surrender to Cao Cao. After all, Cao Cao always needed more muscle to unify the realm. He can just hold out just to force Cao Cao to give him that deal (after the Cao army supplies ran out) as well as due to Chen Gong's refusal to negotiate. Even before Diao Chan enters the picture in Xiapi, you can tell he's already pretty much distracted on the war effort and that it's only Chen Gong that's motivating him to go with his plans.
I think the time when the 5 barbarian tribes came in and raped, ransacked, and literally ate Chinese people (especially cute girls) was the most horrific time in Chinese history.
Official Han census was around 50 million people at the start of the Yellow Turban Rebellion. The next official census by the end of the Three Kingdoms period it was 15 million. Brutal. Absolutely brutal :(
except that the line "Outrageous! Outrageous! Outrageous! " should rightly have been translated as "Revolt! Revolt! Revolt!" or "Insubordination! Insubordination! Insubordination!"
Cao Cao may have been viewed as a 'crafty villain' by the general public during the three kingdoms period, but he treated his officers like they were family.
@@mistertaz94 well, at least if those officers are talented and loyal to him. He indeed has a great appreciation of talent, since talents back then were rare.
Cao Cao is too easily depicted as villainous for killing his uncle & massacring (or letting it happen) civilians after conquering their land. Were those warlords that weren't factoring into the future of then-China all saints or something and Mengde simply screwed them all out of what's theirs, especially Yuan Shao (who was responsible for Dong Zhuo getting into the capital in some way)? Liu Bei was basically portrayed as the plucky underdog who rose from nothing into something out of the goodness of his heart, where land taken from those he defeated were out of benevolence and not personal greed. Was restoring the Han that was crumbling from corruption truly virtuous? Sun Quan is portrayed as a mix of Liu & Cao more or less.
Gotta love the balls on Xu Chu. Kills his Lord's old friend, calmly walks into said Lord's court, admits to his crime, evidence in hand, fully expecting execution, and when the court tries to plead for him and say he did it on impulse and must surely regret his actions, he's like "Shut up, I regret nothing!" 😂
I should grow a nice, long thin beard so I can stroke it and look contemplative. But my facial hair always looks more like Gimli's beard when it starts to grow. It'd be a lot of work maintaining a nice Xun Yu beard.
Sean Sena nope. Most of these officials truly believed they were serving the wisest lord. And most tried to serve wisely and well. It just depended on circumstances and luck that eventually won out.
Cheng Yu kidnapped everyone in his hometown, mixed them into rice, and then fed them to Cao Cao's army.... Xiahou Yuan and Xu Zhu loved Cheng Yu's cooking.
Xun Yu kept fastidious and detailed records. Most of the documents Romance of the Three Kingdoms were based on came from his official letters and accounts written largely in Xuchang.
1:19 how do I say "outrageous" the same way Cao Cao does in this scene so the next time something that makes me angry like he is in this scene, I can also say outrageous the same way
the translation was not exactly right. Cao Cao did NOT say 'outrageous' in that scene. that line should have been translated as "Revolt! Revolt! Revolt!" or "Insubordination! Insubordination! Insubordination!"
well would you look at that. just a few minutes of Xu You being allowed near his friend and his bodyguards, and the result is : Xu You, the man who ridiculed Cao Cao, is dead, and because he was a friend of Cao Cao, the ever merciful, Cao Cao still got angry - but in his mercy, he still spared Xu Chu. Xu Chu is now more loyal to Cao Cao than he ever was. Chen Lin, who was hated, will now become more popular among other officials for helping save Xu Chu's life, allowing Cao Cao to use his talents fully from now on. Cao Pi has been served some much needed humility after his last disobedience which got him a reward instead. and Xun Yu, who "outsmarted" everyone and "truly understood Cao Cao's true intentions", will continue to faithfully help him overthrow the Han Dynasty utnil he actually starts doing it, which him and his nephew Xun You are actually loyal to, because he thinks he knows Cao Cao better than everyone else.
They should address the person they talk to by 字, not full name. For example, when Cao Cao talks to Xun Yu, he would refer to him as 文若、not 荀彧. Especially when the Xun family was quite affluent at that time. Calling him by the full name is deep disrespect. And since it is a rather formal meeting, it is also likely that Cao Cao would refer to them by their job titles
Best of his era, bar none. Even Zhuge Liang wasn't as good of a statesman as Xun Yu, whose fastidious recordkeeping and vast collection of preserved correspondence forms the core of our understanding of the Three Kingdoms Period of Chinese history.
Cao Cao is the best human resource in his era, reform Xu Chu from his drinking habit. meanwhile Liu Bei couldn't control Zhang Fei and cost him his brother's life
No one can play Xu Chu role better than this actor. He genuinely looked like a beast.
agree
His duel against Ma Chao was pretty awesome later in the show.
Dude was the perfect size for all folks watching, including casual TV folks, gamers that follow Dynasty Warriors or ROTK, along with readers of the novel, as this Xu Chu displayed toughness, but was also naive and not the most intelligent beast either (at least in the beginning).
@@rlouie05 This is one of the best characters scenes in the series. My other favorite Xu Chu moment is when Diao Chan dies and Cao Cao tells him to go get 30 lashes. Then he says nevermind and Xu Chu is like nah I'll go take the lashes anways.
@@Pyx-AJ This Xu Chu was a departure from his Dynasty Warriors counterpart, where that game emphasized the "Tiger Fool" side of him in terms of personality, whereas this show displayed some elements of that simplistic side of him, where dude here was mostly a non-nonsense warrior who just wanted to get things done, yet knew who helped him & who his superiors were at the same time.
The actor for Cao Cao is amazing. Somehow he has the subtlety to act mad to show the viewer he is pretending to be angry and yet his character convinces everyone in the court that he is angry for being put into a political incident.
6:32 I love that moment. He is so touched. He nearly burst into tears of pride, of loyalty. An the determination when he walk of to feet the horses
It wasn't spur of the moment. I been meaning to do him in! LOL
Lastdon56 as Xun Yu said, dude was full of rubbish.
Lastdon56 literally laughed out loud there
The translation was superb! A translator myself and I'm not sure I can do better.
Cao Cao's yelling "Outrageous" and kicking over stuff made me almost cry with laughter.
Overall there are many outstanding actors in this series.
I like how the actor played it as an act of theater, because it is. Cao Cao never intended to kill his general. He just wanted to make a show of being upset, so other talented strategists aren't afraid to join him. When Cao Cao really wants someone beheaded, it's way more curt and immediate.
Xun Yu's job must be the most difficult ever imagined.
Xun Yu was one of the true Han loyalists, even more so than Liu Bei. Too bad his loyalty got him killed in the end when he voiced disagreement to Cao Cao's bid for kingship.
Yeah, and that’s the job for counselors of those ambitious warlords. Compare this, I feel so sad about that Danarys only got a stupid Lannister.
@@colaroger9017 Danaerys is a stupid queen that choses a stupid Lanninster, both of them are trash, also GoT is trash too 💩💩💩
Vitor Leite to be fair blame the writers. Tyrion wasn’t so stupid when he was hand for joffrey
@@vitorleite3095 Games of Throne Season 8 is big yikes. D&D just has to fk it all up.
Love how Xu Chu is just ready to face his execution with zero fear or hesitation, compared to Lu Bu who tried to bargain his way out.
What a badass
Lu Bu was pampered boy, Xu Chu grow up in village in the middle of mountain
but the fact he couldn't drink wine.
@@aickavon It seems that he is a religious person, alcohol is forbidden in the holy books
@@عليياسر-ذ5ب Only in Abrahamic religions. This is a chinese show about chinese people in china.
Lu Bu wasn't afraid of death per se. He was too proud and did not want to die in that manner, before he achieved his ambitions. Xu Chu however, was a simple-minded guy and did not concern himself with too much.
"You get an inch and you ask for a mile."
Feels more like he got a mile and asked for inch.
Xu Chu had several things in his favor going into "doing in" Xu You. From Cao Cao wanting the guy dead since he'd be a liability going forward, to how all of the generals wanting their lord to spare Xu Chu, with even Cao Pi jumping to his knees on his behalf. Dude must've been a great general that impressed so many of his peers to jump to his defense, including the crown prince of all men!
"得(get) 寸(an inch) 进(want) 尺(a foot)" is a Chinese idiom referring to "being insatiable". The translator carelessly presented the original meaning of the phrase.
not a mile but a feet
@@xiaoyangwang8588 I don't think that is careless, he is teaching non-Chinese user Chinese.
@@xiaoyangwang8588 That is also what it means in English, it's just a joke about how in this case, the impertinent second request was also unusually minor.
This time period really does make GoT look like a children's cartoon.
Real life is often stranger and more horrifying than fiction.
@@vguyver2 this may have been a romanticized version of real events, but it sure does sound more exciting than GoT.
@@alexanderchristopher6237
You just made me realize something, the Rotk Novel was the GOT of it's day when it came out hundreds of years ago. I have always compared Rotk to Shakespeare too, since that is a loose adaptaion of English history. GOT is also loosely based inspired by historical events for it's plot lines but mashed together from different eras.
@@vguyver2 the tv show does injustice to the actual song of ice and fire books anyways. Whether it's better than rotk or not is up to personal opinions
@@vguyver2 Martin takes inspiration from historical events. The moment the TV show people ran out of source material things went downhill fast. They can't write a compelling political show on their own. It turned into a silly dragons and zombies fantasy fest (which was never the reason most of us got into watching).
if you are going to save me, save me all the way LMAO the wisest word ever
This is a really common Chinese proverb, and definitely one of my personal favorites. Although usually it's not used as an excuse to beg extra aid from someone after they just literally saved your head....
@@martinjr.9660 这解释简单的翻成英文可不容易，但是你解释的很好。GJ
1:21 Cao Pi is like... "Shut up you idiot! I'm trying to help! Don't complicate things even more!" LOL
I hadn't noticed hahaha so good
The face and the sigh Cao Cao makes when Chu Xu shows up;
"Argh, not this shit again."
"Ah shit, here we go again"
This is awesome
More like: My favorite homie got into some shit again...
When he shouts I've been meaning to do him in I lost it lol
The horrified look on Cao Pi's face when he said that showed how much even the Cao kids cared for Xu Chu's well-being.
When playing Dynasty Warriors 5 & Warriors Orochi, Cao Pi was portrayed as coldhearted, yet when Xu Chu is mentioned, he toned down the meanness quite a bit.
atleast hes honest lol
I love this scene so much, the inner personality and dynamic of Wei is revealed through the interactions and there is so many layers.
I love how a specific Wei- way of management could be glimpsed looking at its lower tier, mid tier, and upper tier leaders and in the end they all reinforces each other.
wei of management
God this is funny. You lopped off Xu You's head? He helped us defeat Yuan Shao and take Jizhou, and you lopped his head off?
Xu Chu: just repay him with mine!
Cao Cao: well said!
Everyone knows Zhuge Liang from Liu Bei’s side, but the best strategic advisors are all with Cao Cao. From Xun Yu, Xun You, Guo Jia, Chen Yu, Liu Hua in the earlier days to Jia Xu, Sima Yi etc in the later years. They probably had a combined IQ and EQ of 10,000.
I agree with all except Cheng Yu. Cheng Yu was super smart no doubt, but his accomplishments are little compared to the others on this list. Someone like Chen Qun or Liu Ye would be a better fit
Cao Cao hinself was no slouch in strategic matters.
Don't forget about Liu Ye and Man Chong too! 😉
That's why Kongming was side with undersdog like Liu Bei. Not only he will overshadow by those elite he will gain more achievement by showing he can do as much as those elite combine with his own buy making Liu Bei a strong warlord.
The secret to Cao Cao's victory over Lu Bu? Lu Bu only had one advisor in the form of Chen Gong with whom he often butted heads, Cao Cao on the other hand had a whole council of advisors and mind you this is Cao Cao, master of both pen and sword
" Execute him "
Xu Chu : No problem
" Let him life but no wine for three months "
Xu Chu " wait what?
Life goal
Its a honor thing.
No wine for Xu Chu is worse than death.
😹😹😹😹😹
Wtf.... That's a "alcoolique"....
Alcool is his fearless if I Understand....
Best Cao Cao ever the best combo of strategic villany, wits and poker face
I love Xu Chu and Cao Cao’s relationship in this series. In another scene, I think he kills Diao Chan and Cao Cao orders him to be whipped as punishment. Cao immediately says never mind and Xu says “no, I’ll take the punishment”
Diao Chan committed suicide and Xu Chu rushes in - thinking that she tried to kill Cao Cao with that legendary dagger - ands Cao Cao berated for for that :D
"30 lashes!"
Xu Chu MEANT to kill Diao Chan after Xun Yu persuaded him to do it. But he arrives after she already killed herself and Cao Cao is more frustrated at being denied the conquest of the world's greatest beauty than he is angry at Xu Chu. He totally understands who sent Xu Chu and why, but his blood was up and he lashed out at his steadfast bodyguard.
So many great scenes with those three.
@@zadenwachter9918guess it’s time for me to rewatch the series again! Thanks for the clarification and excuse I needed 😂
I love how the room goes dead silent the moment Xun Yu speaks.
It's interesting that Xu Chu becomes calmer and more disciplined in later episodes
When man gets older, testosterone drops
@@chilieping lol. But I dont think its that. I think its him simply becoming more mindful as he learns from experience.
It's almost like the writers were capable of executing long-form character development and interweaving key moments in the story as formative ones for the characters involved.
Unlike, say, Game of Thrones.
Xu Chu... did you get in trouble again?
I love how much fun the actor playing Cao Cao has.
If only Liu Bei can dicipline his sworn brother Zhang Fei, then Zhang Fei didn't need to get murdered by his own soldier
Cao Cao and Liu Bei have to opposing styles of leadership....under Cao Cao, Zhang Fei would have learned discipline and Guan Yu would have learned humiliity because Cao Cao would not have put up with their shit. Liu Bei being their brother and owing much of his success to them, let them do whatever they wanted up to a point where they violated his personal code or newly cost him something he values...like when the brothers almost lost Zhuge Liang...or when Zhang Fei propose killing Pang Tong....
Justin Dorsey When did Zhang Fei propose to kill Pang Tong? I don't remember him ever doing that.
kamden madan after Zhang Fei was sent to see why he was doing shit when Liu Bei assigned him as govern a shit little county. Pang Tong had decided to leave and Zhang Fei wanted to kill him to keep him from joining someone else. Liu Bei stopped him and but Pang Tong decided to join them anyway so yeah...
thanks
But Xu Chu doesn’t beat the crap out of his own troops while drunk
Xun Yu was a phenomenal man and an exemplary strategist. One of the few people who truly believed in the Han.
How? He was cao caos right hand man. If he did truly waste han rule he would have gone to liu bei
@@ninjakid09 Xun Yu viewed Cao Cao as a capable regent until the Han emperor could reclaim their authority. When Cao Cao wanted to become duke (thereby formally establishing his autonomy), Xun Yu opposed this and died of 'illness' shortly thereafter.
Probably the most logical reason why he served cao cao instead of liu bei, is because he doesn't see liu bei worthy due to his ideals, while xun yu is a pragmatic han loyalist. He is still loyal to the han, but knows that the han system is already weak, corrupt and hoeplesss. He was already fine with the idea of a puppet emperor, and never opposed cao cao until he reached the rank of duke/prince of wei.
🙄 🤔
@@unifieddynasty Cao Cao killed Xun Yu, I am 100% sure of this. Because Cao Cao knew that Cao Pi was in deep trouble if Xun Yu didn't die.
xun yu's whole argument is how awesome poetry is and that it can be used to fix all your problems
More like T&A + song & dance can distract attention away from your problems long enough for the storm to blow over.
Poetry was one of the only vectors for consistently high quality entertainment back then. Master poets made big money when their works got wide circulation, and were essentially the most prestigious entertainers in China. How many people can an actual singer or dancer entertain? Even if they're amazing, they'll get snapped up and patronized by some rich lord. They'd make money, sure, but few outside of that lord's clique would get to appreciate their skills.
Whereas with poetry, all it takes is a small army of scribes to copy the words onto various media. So those works could go far and wide, making poets like Chen Lin incredibly well known with fame rivaling that of high-powered lords and legendary officers.
TL;DR: Having Chen Lin write good things about you is like having the Kardashians or Elon Musk front your product all across their reach networks.
I can't say it enough but Cao Cao's actor was so damn good. He stole the show in every scene he appeared in.
I had no idea I wanted to watch a television series about a romanticized era of Chinese history, but this was amazing. The face Xun Yu makes at 5:02 is just so great XD.
Best line of the scene 6:15, this guy is a freaking master, taking in all of Xu Chu's faults and his charms and using this moment as a chance to teach a huge lesson.
Cheng Yu kidnapped everyone in his hometown, mixed them into rice, and then fed them to Cao Cao's army.... Xiahou Yuan and Xu Zhu loved Cheng Yu's cooking.
"Outrageous, outrageous, outrageous!" *kicks shit off his table*
I love the Cao Cao episodes, he's just a entertaining, good actor.
I had trouble watching like after episode 20 since Cao Cao is less focused on, although after seeing more clips it seems like Old Cao Cao gets more episodes near the end so I'll probably force myself to watch it again.
Cao Cao's faux tantrum here is one of the top five moments of the series. I giggle uncontrollably the moment Xu Chu tosses the head. I can't even hold it back until the head hits the floor.
Cao Cao and Xun Yu were my favorites in this show. I was sad when their relationship finally ended.
Xun Yu wants Cao Cao to adopt Regent style government like Shogunate in Japan, but Cao Cao's intention was throne itself
The actor who plays Cao Cao is pretty good in this series
he's basically an all time chinese version oscar winning actor.
He is the best cao cao I've seen in decades of three kingdoms production.
3:44 they treat Xu Chu like a little brother who messed up really bad 😂
Xun Yu busting out major PR stunts lmao.
Xun Yu is the physical embodiment of class and diplomacy. His POL score is the highest in all ROTK game, beating even Zhuge Liang by 1 point.
Literally his job lol
Posthumously granting nobility seems like the goto move for making amends lmao
It's basically a promotion, but not really, since the guy is already dead.
Posthumously granting nobility will benefit family member who are left behind.
Like Pension, Tax exemption, etc.
We still have Posthumous promotion today for deceases military member who killed in action.
Remember: anything that we do related to deaths is done for the living, not the deceased because they can't know a thing. They're dead!
@@galezhang Specifically, I reckon this changes the course of inheritance. In the collectivist culture of the Chinese, it'd be a pretty big boon for the family.
The way that these scenes are laid out shows in longhand, how things are being shaped for everyone else. I say longhand because the economy of interest and agreement are sacrificed so the view can fairly easily see how the nuance of politics works...I think the best part of the act within the act is Cao Cao engaging in the open rhetorical Q and A, then the suggestion to have talented writers create an article to mirror the
needed sentiments..
"The article will be most appropriately penned by Chen Li..." Cao Cao makes that unforgettable, resigned roll of the eye, designed to convey, " you got me, keep talking" as he sits. Just brilliant! We are aware that the selfsame Chen Li was brought before Cao Cao to explain himself, why he would bring 3 generations of Cao into infamy.
It was so good, it cured Cao Cao of his headache...again, over-the-top, but this is the fullness of creative license with the intention of entertaining and, simultaneously enriching.
Those guards standing around all day has got to be the worst job. I'd go crazy within a week.
How do you think those guys in London feel? I once passed by a dude that had that job in London during a vacation there and I felt so bad I almost gave up several Euros to him in pity before I was told not to.
Discipline boi. That's something we lack in a civil society.
To be fair, it's probably better than being a farmer at the time.
Not when you get paid to do it.
They would rotate after a certain number of hours. It’s called standing duty. There are more of them elsewhere in reserve or just on their off-day that switch with them later.
hyped for Total War: three kingdoms
Yes
I was hyped for it. But now I’m not so sure
it was out! Just play it!
THAT'S MY BEST TOTAL WAR SO FAR..
Yeah
the guard at the corner of the screen in the end was very well fed
the most funniest scene in the whole series
Xu Chu accepting the lashes, while Tsao Tsao tells him to forget about it after Diao Chan's suicide was another great scene and Xu Chu with the Emperor's Bow as a gift.
完了 ！ 完了！
Youve gotta admire Xu Chu devotion and loyalty to Cao Cao
that thumbnail basically sums up my entire presentation project in the university
Xu Chu is very loyal to the Cao family that even Sima Yi didn't dare to kill the Cao family until Xu Chu passed away. Sima Yi then waited some time afterwards to make sure he is really dead before attacking the Cao family.
No one expect him to has such a long life Sima Yi really cunning strategies 😂
The best part is that he asks Xu Chu if he got in trouble "again" upon seeking the bag with a head in it. As if you there is just a running problem of Xu Chu going around decapitating people which then Cao Cao has to deal with
Someone should collect all of Wei's shenanigans scenes into a compilation. That 1:16 sound still cracks me up.
To be fair, Xu You was being a colossal prick in public. He had it coming.
This is definitive scene, the acting is superb and within that, the acting is superb!
Wow..of All the Chinese movies I watched. Three Kingdoms is my Favorite..I Wept in Several parts .this movie is indeed Heart touching..I love the characters
This has to be my favorite depiction of Xu Chu 😂😂
Xun Yu know Cao Cao best.he know what he want what he fear and what he is thinking about.so he can save Xu Chu.
I love how you can re-watch the scene and go ... wait for someone whose friend just got murderised... you seem initially pissed, but then later rather alright with reducing his murderer's punishment. And then you realize it was Cao Cao's actor acting one way but meaning something else. Jeez that guy should have gotten an oscar.
CaoCao meant to do that in the beginning. He was just acting out seemingly remorse on XuYou's death, but actually, he's not.
Once Yuan Shao was defeated, what other use did Xu You have for the Cao regime besides being a blabbermouth?
This is true in real life. Historically, Cao Cao, on the surface, didn’t mind Xu You’s disrespect. However, that was a facade since he bore a hidden grudge. After boasting that Cao Cao wouldn’t be able to enter Ye without his help, that was the final straw and Xu You was executed.
Cao Cao, seeing the bag in hand: "Dammit, Xu Chu, I told you I didn't want McDonald's again!"
😂
I really like the amount of realization in this scene 5:51
This scene is hilarious!
I know! The acting is so bad xD
it's a fake acting，because cao don't want to kill xuchu，acting to others
@@jjmc00 BRUH, this acting is fucking golden. I don't know what the fuck you were just watching but the scene was perfect.
@jjmc00 The acting is fantastic, doofus. It’s not opinion, it’s objective fact and you’re just objectively wrong.
so sad if you remember what Xun Yu meant to Cao Cao and what his fate was...
Agreed. Cao Cao's thirst for power at the end is what did him in.
@@titanjde eh more like the tumor in his head that really did him in
He died of a head illness which was likely either a tumor or aneurism.
Xun Yu introduced Guo Jia, the most OP strategist in their era
1 dislike, it must be Xu You
Dynasty WarriorZ yes
yea*
the second must be Lu Bu
third must be ur mom
@@Eliisaaa I wanted to invade you but then I noticed u aren't Poland
“ hurry and thank him” that scene make me laugh whenever I replay it.
While in history, Xu Chu was never appointed as Chief Commander, through unearthed history record from ancient tomb, Xu Chu was given land, titles, and his family enjoyed huge wealth and prosperity from Cao Pi. He retired and was considered as one of few luckiest officers, being able to retire and enjoy the life of prosperity at the time when many other big generals either beheaded, died from sickness and overworked themselves.
aaAAAGH FALLA FALLA FALLA
(kick something)
Very good translations on this scene, I almost thought English can’t fully grasp the nuances of chinese but this one did it justice
hhhhhh i love xu chu in the game and in the series 😂😂😂
You cannot but love him, he is hilarious
this version of 3 Kingdom is my favorite.
The love for Xu zhu from cao cao, is still a way better love story than Twilight
😂😂
6:58 there is a very fat soldier on the screen haha.
Well, it's not like he's getting a lot of movement on his post.
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absolute unit
@@kevinzhu6417 fucking kek
Maybe his father bribed the army to let his son become imperial guard :)
I love how when Xu Chu walked up in the beginning it almost felt like a kid walking up to his dad knowing he did something wrong and was gonna get punished for it.
It's ancient Chinese version of 'please hold me so I can look mean and make threats' theatrics. Cao Cao was waiting for the moment to kick that table and feign outrage, even subvert the will of the Heavens (feat. Xun Yu). It also tells how important 'saving face' and maintaining reputation among peers is for the Chinese in their social norms.
Zhang liao kicking xu chu to thank cao cao. "Thank him you dumb shit". Lol
Was definitely a nice touch. A little brotherly love.
I hated Cao Cao for years.
But after this movie, he is one of my favourite characters.
Its not a movie, Its a TV SHOW you can watch it for free in youtube, and Cao Cao Wanted Xu You killed, he just pretended in this scene.
Xu you, not xun yu. Xun yu is not until later
@@blacksalena0 you're right, my bad, edited
It shows how good of a leader Cao Cao is compare to the other warlords. Lui Bei basically turn a blind eye when Zhang Fei lost their capital and Bei's family to Lu Bu due to Fei being a drunken.
Here in this scene, we see Cao Cao took the rare chance to "punish" Xu Chu by forbiding him from drinking alchol, so he would no longer be addict to it and thus became a better general.
Compare Xu Chu to Zhang Fei when told not to drink wine...
Or even Lu Bu, especially during his final days.
@@rlouie05 Lu Bu seems to believe that he would get a good deal should he surrender to Cao Cao. After all, Cao Cao always needed more muscle to unify the realm. He can just hold out just to force Cao Cao to give him that deal (after the Cao army supplies ran out) as well as due to Chen Gong's refusal to negotiate.
Even before Diao Chan enters the picture in Xiapi, you can tell he's already pretty much distracted on the war effort and that it's only Chen Gong that's motivating him to go with his plans.
I love how Cao Cao kicks the table, waddles around like an angry child at 1:18
Ah Three Kingdoms, the bloodiest time in history no one remembers because Hitler
I think the time when the 5 barbarian tribes came in and raped, ransacked, and literally ate Chinese people (especially cute girls) was the most horrific time in Chinese history.
@@blessedevelyn339 when was that?
@@anythinggoes1813 Literally right after the Jin Dynasty (Sima Yan's son) collapsed
Official Han census was around 50 million people at the start of the Yellow Turban Rebellion. The next official census by the end of the Three Kingdoms period it was 15 million.
Brutal. Absolutely brutal :(
This is one of my favorite scene in the series
The translation was superb! A translator myself and I'm not sure I can do better.
得寸进尺翻译一下😂
except that the line "Outrageous! Outrageous! Outrageous! "
should rightly have been translated as "Revolt! Revolt! Revolt!" or "Insubordination! Insubordination! Insubordination!"
But 'Outrageous!' more correctly conveys the sentiment. The Jiang Hu crew was amazing at weaving the subtleties into the dialogue.
Cao Cao at first was like "Ah Shit, Here We Go Again" Which stupid idiot got into a dispute with Xu Chu and then got killed by Xu Chu.
5:18 be like...
Hahahahaha
Hahahahaha
Puuuiiiihhhhhhh!
Xu Chu : What the......?
And Xu Chu's startled recoil was brilliant.
Xu Chu must have been popular for everyone to plead for him before Cao Cao.
but at least cao cao has loyal servants hahaha
Yeah, no wonder I always fail recruit him in ROTK game.
Cao Cao may have been viewed as a 'crafty villain' by the general public during the three kingdoms period, but he treated his officers like they were family.
@@mistertaz94 well, at least if those officers are talented and loyal to him. He indeed has a great appreciation of talent, since talents back then were rare.
you want to learn how to be a boss? Learn from Cao Cao.
Cao Cao is too easily depicted as villainous for killing his uncle & massacring (or letting it happen) civilians after conquering their land. Were those warlords that weren't factoring into the future of then-China all saints or something and Mengde simply screwed them all out of what's theirs, especially Yuan Shao (who was responsible for Dong Zhuo getting into the capital in some way)?
Liu Bei was basically portrayed as the plucky underdog who rose from nothing into something out of the goodness of his heart, where land taken from those he defeated were out of benevolence and not personal greed. Was restoring the Han that was crumbling from corruption truly virtuous?
Sun Quan is portrayed as a mix of Liu & Cao more or less.
Gotta love the balls on Xu Chu. Kills his Lord's old friend, calmly walks into said Lord's court, admits to his crime, evidence in hand, fully expecting execution, and when the court tries to plead for him and say he did it on impulse and must surely regret his actions, he's like "Shut up, I regret nothing!" 😂
I should grow a nice, long thin beard so I can stroke it and look contemplative. But my facial hair always looks more like Gimli's beard when it starts to grow. It'd be a lot of work maintaining a nice Xun Yu beard.
To think that when I was young, I thought these were the bad guys
Sean Sena nope. Most of these officials truly believed they were serving the wisest lord. And most tried to serve wisely and well. It just depended on circumstances and luck that eventually won out.
Cheng Yu kidnapped everyone in his hometown, mixed them into rice, and then fed them to Cao Cao's army.... Xiahou Yuan and Xu Zhu loved Cheng Yu's cooking.
Zhu Geliang may be the most creative strategist in this epic,
but Xun Yu is the wisest. :)
(and historians agree)
Xun Yu kept fastidious and detailed records. Most of the documents Romance of the Three Kingdoms were based on came from his official letters and accounts written largely in Xuchang.
the relationship between caocao and xun yu, 😭
1:19 how do I say "outrageous" the same way Cao Cao does in this scene so the next time something that makes me angry like he is in this scene, I can also say outrageous the same way
the translation was not exactly right. Cao Cao did NOT say 'outrageous' in that scene.
that line should have been translated as "Revolt! Revolt! Revolt!" or "Insubordination! Insubordination! Insubordination!"
that guy is so good at talking, i can't even tell which sentence he says is true lol
Ahhh! Fan la fan la fan la !!!
He knows what words to say.
This series is really well done!
1:21 Cao Pi: WTF bro I'm trying to fucking save you
well would you look at that. just a few minutes of Xu You being allowed near his friend and his bodyguards, and the result is : Xu You, the man who ridiculed Cao Cao, is dead, and because he was a friend of Cao Cao, the ever merciful, Cao Cao still got angry - but in his mercy, he still spared Xu Chu. Xu Chu is now more loyal to Cao Cao than he ever was. Chen Lin, who was hated, will now become more popular among other officials for helping save Xu Chu's life, allowing Cao Cao to use his talents fully from now on. Cao Pi has been served some much needed humility after his last disobedience which got him a reward instead. and Xun Yu, who "outsmarted" everyone and "truly understood Cao Cao's true intentions", will continue to faithfully help him overthrow the Han Dynasty utnil he actually starts doing it, which him and his nephew Xun You are actually loyal to, because he thinks he knows Cao Cao better than everyone else.
This actor is the reason why I fucking love Cao Cao now haha
They should address the person they talk to by 字, not full name. For example, when Cao Cao talks to Xun Yu, he would refer to him as 文若、not 荀彧. Especially when the Xun family was quite affluent at that time. Calling him by the full name is deep disrespect. And since it is a rather formal meeting, it is also likely that Cao Cao would refer to them by their job titles
I don't know you guys but I actually cried at the end of this
中国語で初めて聞いたけど
大体イメージ通りだった
The advisor is a good politician
Best of his era, bar none.
Even Zhuge Liang wasn't as good of a statesman as Xun Yu, whose fastidious recordkeeping and vast collection of preserved correspondence forms the core of our understanding of the Three Kingdoms Period of Chinese history.
Cao Cao: What will people think of me?
2024: Ha Funny
Such statecraft! Truly these were giants among men.
Cao Cao is the best human resource in his era, reform Xu Chu from his drinking habit. meanwhile Liu Bei couldn't control Zhang Fei and cost him his brother's life
Cao Cao never employ the questionable and never question the employed
Ooh I like this variant!
I find this scene very hilarious despite the seriousness and tension hahaha
Straight up the funniest scene in the show. I'm in stitches the moment Xu Chu flings Xu You'd head into the air.
This actually seems like quite a good movie. Why am I surprised
Probably because it’s a tv show