Hard to say, it's one thing to be bitter about the game, but then to bring up Rob's personal life into the commentary was too much. Makes me less sympathetic towards them in this season.
Found on the Survivor Wiki page: "In an interview with Rob Cesternino, Jerri revealed that the buffs inside were laid flat and arranged in order, claiming that it was the production's way of splitting Rob and Amber up."
If that's true, I'm 99% sure that it was Jeff's idea. He hated Rob and Amber together and wanted to get rid of Amber so badly. Too bad for him, Amber and Rob found a way and ended up winning $1,100,000, 2 cars, and got married regardless. Oops. $1,250,000.
The Colby wanting to quit one is most surprising to me. He seemed like he was knees deep in the game prior to his elimination. He was the leading force to taking out Hatch if I recall.
Out of all the seasons to have the most dirty/interesting secrets behind the scenes, this season has to be at the top of the list. And looking at the length of this video, I don't think I'm wrong in my assumption. Can't wait to check this out.
I don’t remember where I heard this, but Boston Rob said on a podcast or something that after the final tribal council thrashing, he and Amber flew home alone on a helicopter because producers were worried what would happen if they all flew home together.
One reason I didn't like this season was because mostly everyone was so bitter and mean spirited as the season went on. After hearing the commentary from team 2 I'm doubling down on it. Them be callous to Jenna's mom having cancer and Sue's assault allegations were red flags. What's shocking is that Jerri despite receiving the most unnecessary hate by the audience compared to everyone else showed probably the least animosity in the season and the reunion. She deserved so much better.
It was a team of kinda awful people. Awful people mean drama and drama means ratings. Good people do not always mean as good ratings as much as bad people. Outside of the survivor community people like Parvati and Rob but in real life they are awful concieted pretty people who have had life handed to them
Story of my life, Production Designers, Art Directors, etc, get so overlooked and it's really sad. I've seen people build full on city streets and very few realize how much blood, sweat, and tears goes into these builds. Survivor's build team deserve so much praise.
@@joshuaclemons5452 Yes I know! I learned about that before I learned about her offscreen fights with Shii Ann! I now kinda like that she doesn't wanna play again!
Alicia calling Boston Rob a bully is real hypocrisy! And Lex too! In both of his seasons, he would lie as much as anyone, but then when his alliance voted him out, he criticizes them so loud & glares at them, acting like a spoiled 5 year-old. What a hypocrite!
Skupin was actually in the cast, but he opened his mouth to too many people saying he was going to be on it and what the theme was, which got back to CBS. So he was removed, and that’s how Boston Rob ended up there as he was the first alternate.
Thank God. No Boston Rob in All Stars drastically changes his history with the show and of course Amber. They fell in love and are still together and have a family. That's wild how that works.
This video is a trip! Nice Job! It really shows the stark contrast to what Survivor used to be like and what it is now. I feel like the new era is the Disney version of Survivor. Back then, the elements were a huge factor. There was more fighting each other and fighting the elements. Also, this video highlights how much they used to talk over each other and it hurts my head. Everyone talking at once. Today, it is more formulaic in content and more produced and less "roughing it".... the way they film it today.... hunger, lack of sleep, bug bites, etc. are not even what they are experiencing. Not like they did back then.
Thanks for the video! I recently decided to start Survivor from the beginning and am on season 2 now. It didn’t dawn on me until several episodes in that I was watching THAT Amber. It’s neat to see so many early castaways in All Stars, and I’m looking forward to it! 🙂 P.S. I don’t know anything about your personal beliefs, but I appreciate the verse you posted at the end. Also, I remember you mentioned wearing a hoody from The Chosen last week. I just wanted to say thanks for sharing that with us - and that I’d love to hear more about your story, as well as Mary’s.
Drunk Big Tom: "AND THEN WE FOUND A BOTTLE, POPPED THE CORK, RIGHT HERE'S THE CORK! AMBER CAME OUT!! MY GOD, A GENIE!!! IT WAS BEAUTIFUL!!!! HER BODY WAS LIKE AN HOURGLASS..."
That is why I say Russell should have on Samoa. Not a fan or hater of his, just my opinion. Should he play new school (which he did start) he would have won.
@@monapop I honestly don’t think he would’ve won even in new school seasons because of his lack of social skills. He may have been more respected, but ultimately still would’ve lost. He just doesn’t have good people skills.
@Mona Pop a new school Russell probably gets out pre merge(he actively harms the tribes + never really being productive in camp +would be considered making too many big moves too early), or even if he makes it to the end, won't win because of his terrible terrible FTC skills. Jury asides, both of Russell's FTCs are objectively bad. He doesn't even bother trying to give the jury what they want
*Some players did not have the Armour skin it took, 2 cry babies on the jury & it wasn't ahead of its time..BR perfect example of this. Hello...they all new Outwit outlast out play..however it was needed to be accomplished. This isn't a knitting class.
38:20 tbf.. tooth pain is no fcking joke. And in a game like this I could see myself being able to push through large amounts of pain for a challenge, but it would be a lot harder to make yourself do camp-work, since it's not as urgent or as important. Ofc it's totally possible that he was just being dramatic to get out of working, but it's also totally possible that he really was just in pain.
I remember thinking two major things this season. How the HELL did they not vote out Rob and Amber early on, and why the HELL everyone hated ShiiAnn for doing nothing wrong to anybody. It seemed so cruel and unnecessary
Here's a secret that wasnt mentioned. AllStars was meant to be season 10. But CBS needed something to compete with FOX since the Friends final season was airing at the same time. So they moved AllStars to season 8.
I wonder how different this season would've been if Elisabeth actually did it. I wonder if Colleen was asked back. She fit the archetype Amber was cast in
Fun fact: in heroes vs villains Paravati had sleeping tablets which were snook in by one of the crew members who was her friend Confirmed by russel on his UA-cam channel
Russell isn't the best source for information. Dudes a well known embellisher and is known to discredit people who he's bitter at. Not saying it is outright a lie. but take everything Russell says with a grain of salt Besides, what's the context. Was Parvati on prescription based sleeping pills... cause you never quit them cold turkey(see Kathy in Micronesia, or Shane with nicotine withdrawals in Panama).
I always thought they originally cast her then cut her, which is why they gave her a job as a casting director for Vanuatu. They felt bad because she'd quit her job to come out for All Stars.
they should insentivise the test groups with a 3x pay for the winners of endurance challenges, or maybe just an overall winner. At least some incentive to make it more accurate
Wait? How can that hack for the challenge work? If the person on your left has the same items as you doesn’t that mean that the person you ask to them they are on your right?
@@OnceUponAnIsland maybe it’s just like the person next too you in pairs like 1&2, 3&4 cause by the left of you logic would mean that every person has the exact same box 🤨🤨
Half of this cast is from Borneo and Australia. I never liked that about this season. There could've been a more even split among the representation of the first seven seasons.
@@brickmariobros they placed the same though and in Thailand the "Merge" wasnt until the final 8 so stupid no wonder that season flopped its a shame because it was such as a nice location to film.
No problem. You get soooo many bonus features on the All-Stars DVD's and 9 of the episodes have commentary tracks. Definitely one of the must own DVD sets.
Lex and Alicia were so bitter….poor babies, didn’t everyone know they were suppose to win. Lex acted like he was God telling each player that it was their turn to go. I cheered when he got voted off.
It feels like it was kind of the plan. They had 4 winners and Sandra was supposed to be on so that only leaves out Vecepia & Brian but there was no way they would bring Brian back.
@@charlestoti2252 omg you're right. I totally forgot about Brian wanting a ton of money to appear. He's been such a non-factor since his season, thank god the show didn't put any eggs in that basket.
I remember hating this season back when it first aired when I was a teenager. I rewatched it a couple weeks ago and now I understand why. All the good/entertaining players are gone almost immediately and the rest of the season is just watching everyone talk about how much they trust Rob while he continuously quintuple crosses them all and makes fun of them in confessionals. It's a miserable watch.
I fully laugh with the girls when they laugh up how ridiculous the "love" story is between Amber and Rob. People act like it is some disney fairytail when really it is just douche meets hot girl that falls for a douche
Boston Bob is the most over hyped player to ever play and was honestly trash. I’d bet money Jeff rigged his win season. He had to let his man crush win at least once.
Who is the saltiest person on this cast?
Watch every secrets video I have made here - ua-cam.com/play/PL-J4ldj2BdE2McwzPjDDJAuBDHZriyYOG.html
I guess Lex because he was salty at Rob for going against the deal he made with Rob and it was evident he was salty at the FTC.
Hard to say, it's one thing to be bitter about the game, but then to bring up Rob's personal life into the commentary was too much. Makes me less sympathetic towards them in this season.
Big Tom or Lex probably.
Edit: I was right
What about alicia
SALTIEST
Alicia
Lex
Kathy
Big Tom
Shii-Ann
Rupert
Jenna
LEAST SALTY
Found on the Survivor Wiki page: "In an interview with Rob Cesternino, Jerri revealed that the buffs inside were laid flat and arranged in order, claiming that it was the production's way of splitting Rob and Amber up."
If that's true, I'm 99% sure that it was Jeff's idea. He hated Rob and Amber together and wanted to get rid of Amber so badly. Too bad for him, Amber and Rob found a way and ended up winning $1,100,000, 2 cars, and got married regardless.
Oops. $1,250,000.
@@AGJ117why didn’t Jeff want them together?
Bc he wanted to marry rob
Funny, but I think the real reason was the fact that they were doing well, and production didn’t like that, since they were unknowns.
The Colby wanting to quit one is most surprising to me. He seemed like he was knees deep in the game prior to his elimination. He was the leading force to taking out Hatch if I recall.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy how the man who everyone fell in love with during season 2 quickly does not care about the show anymore on his return trips.
Out of all the seasons to have the most dirty/interesting secrets behind the scenes, this season has to be at the top of the list. And looking at the length of this video, I don't think I'm wrong in my assumption. Can't wait to check this out.
This is by far the messiest set of secrets I have compiled along with Cook Islands.
I don’t remember where I heard this, but Boston Rob said on a podcast or something that after the final tribal council thrashing, he and Amber flew home alone on a helicopter because producers were worried what would happen if they all flew home together.
Oh wow.
@@OnceUponAnIsland I’ll see if I can maybe find where I found it and if I do I’ll send it to you
Lol wow
This was mentioned on the podcast Surviving Snyder, hosted by Dalton Ross, Rick Devens, and Brendan….last name is escaping me but from Ghost Island.
@@ianyanks23 Shapiro
One reason I didn't like this season was because mostly everyone was so bitter and mean spirited as the season went on. After hearing the commentary from team 2 I'm doubling down on it. Them be callous to Jenna's mom having cancer and Sue's assault allegations were red flags. What's shocking is that Jerri despite receiving the most unnecessary hate by the audience compared to everyone else showed probably the least animosity in the season and the reunion. She deserved so much better.
It was a team of kinda awful people. Awful people mean drama and drama means ratings. Good people do not always mean as good ratings as much as bad people.
Outside of the survivor community people like Parvati and Rob but in real life they are awful concieted pretty people who have had life handed to them
Story of my life, Production Designers, Art Directors, etc, get so overlooked and it's really sad. I've seen people build full on city streets and very few realize how much blood, sweat, and tears goes into these builds. Survivor's build team deserve so much praise.
"I don't wanna be antagonistic with you but your yelling at me!" "I'm not yelling at you, you wanna hear yelling at you!?!?" 😭😭😭
That fight with Shii Ann moves Alicia down to my mixed section! I now understand why she hasn't played again!
Alicia doesn’t want to play again anyways. 🙄
@@joshuaclemons5452 Yes I know! I learned about that before I learned about her offscreen fights with Shii Ann! I now kinda like that she doesn't wanna play again!
that's why shii ann stays unbothered and more iconic than alicia could ever be
Alicia has been horrible since Season 2. She's TV gold though but a horrible person.
Alicia calling Boston Rob a bully is real hypocrisy! And Lex too! In both of his seasons, he would lie as much as anyone, but then when his alliance voted him out, he criticizes them so loud & glares at them, acting like a spoiled 5 year-old. What a hypocrite!
Skupin was actually in the cast, but he opened his mouth to too many people saying he was going to be on it and what the theme was, which got back to CBS. So he was removed, and that’s how Boston Rob ended up there as he was the first alternate.
Thank God. No Boston Rob in All Stars drastically changes his history with the show and of course Amber. They fell in love and are still together and have a family. That's wild how that works.
Apparently they couldn't get lot of people to come back that's why Rob and Amber are even on the season.
rupert is staring at the rock like “i wish boston rob loved me”
This is the first season that I ever watched in full and it’s always been my favorite. Great season with no twists and advantages
This video is a trip! Nice Job! It really shows the stark contrast to what Survivor used to be like and what it is now. I feel like the new era is the Disney version of Survivor. Back then, the elements were a huge factor. There was more fighting each other and fighting the elements. Also, this video highlights how much they used to talk over each other and it hurts my head. Everyone talking at once. Today, it is more formulaic in content and more produced and less "roughing it".... the way they film it today.... hunger, lack of sleep, bug bites, etc. are not even what they are experiencing. Not like they did back then.
Thanks for the video! I recently decided to start Survivor from the beginning and am on season 2 now. It didn’t dawn on me until several episodes in that I was watching THAT Amber. It’s neat to see so many early castaways in All Stars, and I’m looking forward to it! 🙂
P.S. I don’t know anything about your personal beliefs, but I appreciate the verse you posted at the end. Also, I remember you mentioned wearing a hoody from The Chosen last week. I just wanted to say thanks for sharing that with us - and that I’d love to hear more about your story, as well as Mary’s.
such a different amber that episode and all-stars
Sean Rector should’ve been a 1000% lock for the season, its a crime that he hasn’t come back yet
Yep.
Bring him back for Game changers
Drunk Big Tom:
"AND THEN WE FOUND A BOTTLE, POPPED THE CORK, RIGHT HERE'S THE CORK!
AMBER CAME OUT!!
MY GOD, A GENIE!!!
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL!!!!
HER BODY WAS LIKE AN HOURGLASS..."
This season was ahead of its time. Players were shocked by how ruthless and cutthroat it was. But that’s just expected and celebrated now.
That is why I say Russell should have on Samoa. Not a fan or hater of his, just my opinion. Should he play new school (which he did start) he would have won.
@@monapop I honestly don’t think he would’ve won even in new school seasons because of his lack of social skills. He may have been more respected, but ultimately still would’ve lost. He just doesn’t have good people skills.
@Mona Pop a new school Russell probably gets out pre merge(he actively harms the tribes + never really being productive in camp +would be considered making too many big moves too early), or even if he makes it to the end, won't win because of his terrible terrible FTC skills. Jury asides, both of Russell's FTCs are objectively bad. He doesn't even bother trying to give the jury what they want
*Some players did not have the Armour skin it took, 2 cry babies on the jury & it wasn't ahead of its time..BR perfect example of this.
Hello...they all new
Outwit outlast out play..however it was needed to be accomplished. This isn't a knitting class.
@@monapop I disagree; ngl i respected his game as a viewer, but that fella was not humble. His social game is so weak
The letter secret in the pre merge was quite interesting. I laughed when I saw the Rich and Sue interaction.
The Whole Richard n Sue Thing When He Bumped Into Her Was AN ACCIDENT.... *SHE COULD HAVE MOVED SAME WITH KATHY*
38:20 tbf.. tooth pain is no fcking joke. And in a game like this I could see myself being able to push through large amounts of pain for a challenge, but it would be a lot harder to make yourself do camp-work, since it's not as urgent or as important.
Ofc it's totally possible that he was just being dramatic to get out of working, but it's also totally possible that he really was just in pain.
Hatch would have a tattoo of the exact shark that munched him right there on his arm. What a goof haha
I remember thinking two major things this season. How the HELL did they not vote out Rob and Amber early on, and why the HELL everyone hated ShiiAnn for doing nothing wrong to anybody. It seemed so cruel and unnecessary
Amber doing an impression of Tina.. lmao
Here's a secret that wasnt mentioned. AllStars was meant to be season 10. But CBS needed something to compete with FOX since the Friends final season was airing at the same time. So they moved AllStars to season 8.
Source?
@@OnceUponAnIsland I heard it on RHAP 40 season rankings during the ALLSTAR ranking podcast
Kinda late, but cbs had the Super Bowl that year and they needed a special season/show
33:44-50, that was the moment that Jeff knew, Rob was his favorite player.
I wonder how different this season would've been if Elisabeth actually did it. I wonder if Colleen was asked back. She fit the archetype Amber was cast in
Jeff said in the pregame interviews Colleen was asked back and declined,
Alicia finds the most absurd reasons to complain about Rob and Amber. It's borderline obsessive and so cringey to hear lol
So Amber applied to survivor as a way to delay getting a job after college. When I was 22 I tried to delay getting a job by applying to grad school 🙄
Fun fact: in heroes vs villains
Paravati had sleeping tablets which were snook in by one of the crew members who was her friend
Confirmed by russel on his UA-cam channel
Russell isn't the best source for information. Dudes a well known embellisher and is known to discredit people who he's bitter at.
Not saying it is outright a lie. but take everything Russell says with a grain of salt
Besides, what's the context. Was Parvati on prescription based sleeping pills... cause you never quit them cold turkey(see Kathy in Micronesia, or Shane with nicotine withdrawals in Panama).
“Confirmed by Russel” lol
You mean the king of lies? Yeah I totally believe this
66 still wasn't enough! 😅 Thanks for the great content!
Kind of a shame Kelly Goldsmith was an alternate for Jenna given that Jenna drops out of the game pretty early on.
I always thought they originally cast her then cut her, which is why they gave her a job as a casting director for Vanuatu. They felt bad because she'd quit her job to come out for All Stars.
The first season I watched as a little boy, and I’ve been watching every season since! This season will always be one of my favorites.
I’m currently watching this season and it’s top tier in my opinion. Especially if you’ve seen the first 7 seasons.
I hope we get another returning player season alot of people from modern seasons I'm very excited to watch Rick Devens for Survivor Second Chance 2?
I read (from a decently reliable source) that season 45 will be second second chance
@@trevor1846 Which source?
@@trevor1846well that was wrong 😂
Rob was so mean to everyone not named Amber in that season .. it is very much a Russell came before Russell
Great video!! Put a lot of time into that for sure!
they should insentivise the test groups with a 3x pay for the winners of endurance challenges, or maybe just an overall winner. At least some incentive to make it more accurate
Thank you for posting the video.
Boston Rob is the man
After hearing the commentary tracks I’m so glad Rob screwed over Lex, Alicia and Kathy over 😂😂
Lol for a season I have seen all the DVD millions of times I didn't know some of these secrets
Best season of Survivor ever.
Kelly Goldsmith or Neleh should have been on All Stars instead of Jenna Lewis
That group two commentary is so negative and nasty that I’ve never been able to listen to the whole thing.
love this channel
Me too :)
Wait? How can that hack for the challenge work? If the person on your left has the same items as you doesn’t that mean that the person you ask to them they are on your right?
Yeah, I didn't quite understand, but multiple people said he is right.
@@OnceUponAnIsland maybe it’s just like the person next too you in pairs like 1&2, 3&4 cause by the left of you logic would mean that every person has the exact same box 🤨🤨
Half of this cast is from Borneo and Australia. I never liked that about this season. There could've been a more even split among the representation of the first seven seasons.
A real lack of diversity across the board.
It's cause a lot of people refused to return.
1 - OOOO
2 - OOOOO
3 - OOO
4 - OO
5 - O
6 - OO
7 - O
You could argue the fact that neither Rob nor Amber really deserved to be in an all star season too. Imagine that alternate universe.
@@sackeshi I can understand why, I think part could just be "quitting while I am ahead" excluding medical reasons.
Is there a Borneo 'secrets' video?
I have a playlist of every secrets video I have done so far 😊 haven't done Borneo yet
@@OnceUponAnIsland I have checked it, but since you mentioned Borneo in this one, i thought I might've missed it while scrolling😁
Alisha and ShiiAnn should have thrown hands!
Alicia literally offers multiple times and Shii Ann is not at all interested.
Love Shii Ann but that would not have ended well for her
@@Quatrixjs1 Alicia is jacked. It would have been brutal.
Alisha would murder her
Where can I list to the commentary tracks online?
I don't know if they are online at all. As far as I know, they are only on the DVD's.
But I do include the best parts (in my opinion) in my secrets videos for seasons 1, 2, 7, 8, 9, and 10.
Was Boston Rob the lowest ranked player? He wasn’t even Jury in Marquesas
No, that would be Shii Ann, Rob made the merge, but Shii Ann didn’t
@@brickmariobros they placed the same though and in Thailand the "Merge" wasnt until the final 8 so stupid no wonder that season flopped its a shame because it was such as a nice location to film.
@@juanmora9190 that’s right. Was the fake merge were they joined the same camp and Jeff tricked them into thinking it was the merge.
@@jayharrison1785 yeah and didnt merge til final 8 which is so bad the tribe with 3 members stood no chance
I can't believe how bitter some of these people are in the commentary on the DVD. It's actually kind of cringy.
And this isn't even the half of it.
I felt bad for shii ann
Hearing these secrets on Rob in this season is giving me Russell Hantz vibes. I see why they both lost.
Lex is probably the most jealous survivor player ever and Kathy is kinda of delusional
Kathy makes Sue look sane
She thought she was robbed unfairly in Marquesas, which isn't true. She got distracted and outplayed by Vecepia.
I love Shii Ann
Crowbar Mariano is about as ridiculous as naming a baby Dirtbike Funny lmao looking at you, nickelodeon.
Is there any way like on a podcast to watch or listen to the player commentary especially Lex, Kathy, Alicia, and Shi ann?
It is all on the DVD commentaries. You can find All-Stars for cheap.
@@OnceUponAnIsland Great, thanks for the help!
No problem. You get soooo many bonus features on the All-Stars DVD's and 9 of the episodes have commentary tracks. Definitely one of the must own DVD sets.
All the childish banter the non winners give is hilarious. Survivor is a game of deceit. The sooner they accept that the sooner they can move on.
This is my favorite season
Yep, mine too. The only season I have on DVD
@@kaileim970 I have the 1st 10 seasons on dvd
Fun video 👍
Who would you want for Second Chance 2?
Lex and Alicia were so bitter….poor babies, didn’t everyone know they were suppose to win. Lex acted like he was God telling each player that it was their turn to go. I cheered when he got voted off.
Not the hair extensions 💣
Team 2's commentary makes me happy to know Rob and Amber outplayed all of them. Salty sore losers.
Sucks that goldsmith didn't play
Every secret about Alicia made me hate her more and more and more
They should have brought back all the winners
Or at least the first 6 and made them their own tribe since the Sandra secret in this video makes it clear she couldn't have played.
It feels like it was kind of the plan. They had 4 winners and Sandra was supposed to be on so that only leaves out Vecepia & Brian but there was no way they would bring Brian back.
@@davel2990 Vecepia was pregnant and Brian asked for money
@@charlestoti2252 omg you're right. I totally forgot about Brian wanting a ton of money to appear. He's been such a non-factor since his season, thank god the show didn't put any eggs in that basket.
@@charlestoti2252 i dont think she was really pregnant
Since Amber won All Stars, does that mean that until Sandra’s second win, or even until Tony’s W@W, SHE was the GOAT?!? LOL!
I remember hating this season back when it first aired when I was a teenager. I rewatched it a couple weeks ago and now I understand why. All the good/entertaining players are gone almost immediately and the rest of the season is just watching everyone talk about how much they trust Rob while he continuously quintuple crosses them all and makes fun of them in confessionals.
It's a miserable watch.
Those two ladies talking and yelling over each other makes my ears and head hurt
shame on Hatch for butchering comics and using pages as wallpaper.
A REAL CRIMINAL!
I fully laugh with the girls when they laugh up how ridiculous the "love" story is between Amber and Rob.
People act like it is some disney fairytail when really it is just douche meets hot girl that falls for a douche
this is one of my favorite other than gabon
The podcast making fun of Boston and amber are bitter women
❤️
Let’s go
Boston Bob is the most over hyped player to ever play and was honestly trash. I’d bet money Jeff rigged his win season. He had to let his man crush win at least once.
Rob is the worst so I'm ok with Commentary Team 2 making fun of him.