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With the amount of cargo ebikes out on the market, this is something we are looking to show. When we get one at home in Wisconsin, we will definitely put the handling to the test.
All the aventon and letric videos about the cargo bikes have never had cargo on them. I imagine lots of cargo with a small gear range and all the weight over the motors is not going to be the best with hills.
After riding this and the Lectric Xoedition which do you prefer for hauling kids and for hills ? Or which do you like better in general ? Great videos thanks for your insight
I’d like to know if anyone can tell me how Abound or Expedition is for smaller females to handle. I dont consider myself small but on the smaller side with lesser upper body strength. I can’t find any to test ride and have no idea how these handle and w cargo.
@@finallythere100Hi! I’m a 5’4 mom of 3 littles…I just bought the Abound strictly because I felt I could handle and control it better. I previously test rode the Radwagon Cargo e-bike which is about 10 inches longer in length and I felt overpowered. The Abound felt like a great fit for me, and my kids have been enjoying rides around our very hilly neighborhood.
It is a bit of higher spec'd product, besides the smaller battery. If you are looking for range, the Lectric is our top choice. If you are looking for a bit of a more polished and feature rich ebike, the Abound is a better choice. It is hard as the value proposition of the Lectric is really good. But the design and included accessories of the Aventon are really nice. Honest question for you: What are some important things to you when picking between cargo ebikes?
I love how it looks like Tern and Aventon had a baby cargo e-bike. For the price, you're getting one hell of a value. If this was available a couple years ago, I'd be like What is a RadWagon I'm buying the Abound.
Looks like a Tern accept it is a Hub drive not a Bosch Mid drive (big difference). Also I think the Tern has a better Derailleur. But yes it does look like Tern.
How important do you think the suspension is tho? I was going to get the expedition, but (looks aside) I like the chain guard and feature on Abound that keeps the chain from slapping, I’m don’t know if my concerns are warranted, but wondering about chain gunk, and the chain falling off on me. Also wondering about suspension bc of not good for me to have spine impact and lots of potholes fixed and bumpy where I live. Also abound has Tektra hydraulic brakes, idk how important that is. But it’s heavier . And idk if an 81 pound bike is hard for a woman to handle and then w cargo, Aventon does come w running boards. I want to know what others say..
I have had my abound for a few weeks and have about 500 miles on it. I absolutely love it. It has a bit of a front end wobble, but that seemed to have abated when I added the front rack. I think it might be a weight distribution issue that needed a tad more weight on the front end. It is great for grocery shopping with the large cargo rack on back.
@Jan-pj7gn apply the brakes lightly. That seemed to stop the wobble. Putting some of my weight on the front helps, but is awkward because I am short. But the front basket made it almost completely stop wobbling. I really think it just needs a little more weight over the front fork.
@@Jan-pj7gn they have a warranty and a network of shops that will work on them...have it looked at...why pay this much for something and not have it checked if there's an issue
I know your love for lectric , i purchased a few myself from your recommendations, i like them better than my rad power bikes. My first cargo purchase is commin up. Specd out xpedition with 150mi range is still cost friendly over the abound., What would you choose if you are taking your kids on 1-3 hour bike journeys. ?
It would be nice to use this cargo bike in the UK but as regulations stand we are not allowed those thumb shifters that increase speed levels above 20MPH and beyond. As far as the UK is concerned we are still operating in the Dark Ages.
Why is the UK such a nanny place...gotta start out on low power motorcycles, can't use a thumb throttle on an Ebike...goodness...do they make you do a training course before you're allowed to flush the loo?
I just purchased the Aventon Abound today. I walked into the bike shop to look at another bike, but when I test drove the abound, I was sold! Such a smooth, quick, and powerful bike with different settings to choose from for your journey like echo, cruise sport, and turbo. I also installed the kid rail seat in the back and took my some son on a nice long journey, which he loved to death. He didn't want to go home while we were out cruising. Money well spent!
even though the frame looks quite solid but the rear rack with its seat seems to be way thinner - will it endure extra passengers 1 adult + toddler of their total weight about 150lbs?
Ryan uses the QuikrStuff Mach2 and I (JT) use the Saris MHS. Both could accommodate 2 cargo bikes, but you might run into accessory interference (like kid area or rear baskets). So you might have to take those off for transport. Overall weight and capacity, for the rack is going also depend upon vehicle hitch weight capacity. But both the racks we use have a 70-80lbs per bike capacity. The Abound, especially with the battery removed, is on the lighter side. So it shouldn’t have a problem on the racks above, assuming your vehicle can handle a +250lbs hitch weight.
How would you lock this bike up outside a grocery store? Would I need a folding lock large enough to wrap around the main tube? It looks all the rear tubes around the wheel are blocked, and the rack seems like it'd come off with Allen keys?
We would probably just use a chain lock. Kryptonite is our go to (possible recommendation: amzn.to/3EgapAt (affiliate link)) Also yes the rear rack portion is bolted on. Tight spaces so it would be challenging.
I am glad that you keep mentioning the weld finish quality of the Aventon bikes. Their good looks are always worth a shout out. I wish my new cargo bike was pretty like an Aventon but mine looks like it was designed for World War 2. I got this Aventon beat on specs though. Got the suspension fork and hydraulic Tektros like the Abound. But mine came with 1000w Bafang hub and 34ah of Samsung batteries. Does 28mph off the throttle, has a lot of range, and climbs hills well. Rides smooth on fat 20x4 tires too. I'm not sorry that I chose function over style but it would be nice to have both.
Seems so cool. The issue I have is that it is NOT pedal-assist, it is a motorcycle with pedals. There is added risk on those. But, then again, good for some light commuting and shopping, beats the costs of a car.
The Abound does not have a Thule Yepp window in the rear rack. We plan to check into the ability to fit a universal Thule Yepp mounting plate in the future.
My understanding is that you have to use the adapter plate thing. What bums me out is that you can’t put 2 of the Thule maxi seats on the rack according to Aventon.
The collapsing stem is KILLING me -- it's not that it exists, but is wobbly under stress. Other than that, the bike would be perfect! I'd still buy, though.
For $2200.00 you better see hydraulic brakes and front fork suspension. kind of of a wimpy little light for $2200.00. Those cables need to be cleaned up, they will get caught on things, potentially pulling you off the bike. that cable management is horrible! Why talk about folding bike and narrow handle bars when you are not reviewing a folding bike? compare the handlebars to other bikes in the same class... So far not a single word about those squeaky brakes.Two dimensional video doesn't tell or show the angle (steepness) of the route, the review needs an angle finder on the front cargo rack.
If I get this bike (imminently) I plan to try to wrap those cables, you are right about that. I believe that the Tetra hydraulic brakes are supposed to be better than the Expedition, but not sure how much that factors in. A concern of mine is getting spiked from the chain, the chain slapping and falling off , so it might seem silly but the chain guard and other feature is a big deal. Yeah about the squeaky brakes! I don’t care so much for the extra sporty look bc I don’t want to be stopped a lot as one reviewer said would happen bc bike looks so good. Another I’d be paying for is the service for a while at local dealer shop. Do you think suspension is important w smaller wheels?
@@EbikeEscapeI just bought this bike based thanks in part to this wonderful review. My question is, which affordable bike rack would you recommend for it?
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For a cargo bike I think test footage of the bike loaded with CARGO is a must!
With the amount of cargo ebikes out on the market, this is something we are looking to show. When we get one at home in Wisconsin, we will definitely put the handling to the test.
All the aventon and letric videos about the cargo bikes have never had cargo on them. I imagine lots of cargo with a small gear range and all the weight over the motors is not going to be the best with hills.
Yeah I want to see a big anvil strapped to the back of a bike.
11:00: Why did they produce such a nice bike with a super entry-level rear derailleur? I hope they give options for an upgrade in the future 😕
I just ordered the Abound via your link. Was offered several free and discounted accessories too. Excellent video explaining features.
Awesome, thank you! We will have a follow up on this bike soon.
After riding this and the Lectric Xoedition which do you prefer for hauling kids and for hills ? Or which do you like better in general ?
Great videos thanks for your insight
I’d like to know if anyone can tell me how Abound or Expedition is for smaller females to handle. I dont consider myself small but on the smaller side with lesser upper body strength. I can’t find any to test ride and have no idea how these handle and w cargo.
@@finallythere100Hi! I’m a 5’4 mom of 3 littles…I just bought the Abound strictly because I felt I could handle and control it better. I previously test rode the Radwagon Cargo e-bike which is about 10 inches longer in length and I felt overpowered. The Abound felt like a great fit for me, and my kids have been enjoying rides around our very hilly neighborhood.
Does this compare to the Lectric Expedition?
It is a bit of higher spec'd product, besides the smaller battery. If you are looking for range, the Lectric is our top choice. If you are looking for a bit of a more polished and feature rich ebike, the Abound is a better choice.
It is hard as the value proposition of the Lectric is really good. But the design and included accessories of the Aventon are really nice.
Honest question for you: What are some important things to you when picking between cargo ebikes?
Great review, gorgeous bike! Aventon is becoming my favorite Ebike brand.
I love how it looks like Tern and Aventon had a baby cargo e-bike. For the price, you're getting one hell of a value. If this was available a couple years ago, I'd be like What is a RadWagon I'm buying the Abound.
Looks like a Tern accept it is a Hub drive not a Bosch Mid drive (big difference). Also I think the Tern has a better Derailleur. But yes it does look like Tern.
@@MumfordJim I'm sure the Tern is a lot more $$$
@@jeffmpvd7689 Yes, mid drives cost more and Bosch even costs more.
How does this compare to the new Lectric cargo bike?
I was wondering that too. Because it’s more expensive than the Lectric version that comes with two batteries
@@CodeDebThe Aventon is $700 or 50% more than the Lectric version with a single battery.
We are planning a comparison video of the two. Were we plan to ride both ebikes back to back.
How important do you think the suspension is tho? I was going to get the expedition, but (looks aside) I like the chain guard and feature on Abound that keeps the chain from slapping, I’m don’t know if my concerns are warranted, but wondering about chain gunk, and the chain falling off on me. Also wondering about suspension bc of not good for me to have spine impact and lots of potholes fixed and bumpy where I live. Also abound has Tektra hydraulic brakes, idk how important that is. But it’s heavier . And idk if an 81 pound bike is hard for a woman to handle and then w cargo, Aventon does come w running boards. I want to know what others say..
Aventon has awful customer service, buyer beware.
Thanks for the review! 🤗
I bought Magnum Payload last year but I would have purchased this one instead. The accessories are much nicer
Wow payload is nice, too..
I have had my abound for a few weeks and have about 500 miles on it. I absolutely love it. It has a bit of a front end wobble, but that seemed to have abated when I added the front rack. I think it might be a weight distribution issue that needed a tad more weight on the front end. It is great for grocery shopping with the large cargo rack on back.
Mine wobbles like crazy, it's starting to worry me.
@Jan-pj7gn apply the brakes lightly. That seemed to stop the wobble. Putting some of my weight on the front helps, but is awkward because I am short. But the front basket made it almost completely stop wobbling. I really think it just needs a little more weight over the front fork.
@@Jan-pj7gn they have a warranty and a network of shops that will work on them...have it looked at...why pay this much for something and not have it checked if there's an issue
I know your love for lectric , i purchased a few myself from your recommendations, i like them better than my rad power bikes. My first cargo purchase is commin up. Specd out xpedition with 150mi range is still cost friendly over the abound., What would you choose if you are taking your kids on 1-3 hour bike journeys. ?
If you need range the XPedition is the way to go. If you want comfort, looks and a torque sensor go with the Abound.
Is abound more comfortable bc of the suspension ?
Gosh your videos are making it really hard to decide xpedition or abound 🤔. Excellent videos !!
Both great options!
It would be nice to use this cargo bike in the UK but as regulations stand we are not allowed those thumb shifters that increase speed levels above 20MPH and beyond. As far as the UK is concerned we are still operating in the Dark Ages.
Why is the UK such a nanny place...gotta start out on low power motorcycles, can't use a thumb throttle on an Ebike...goodness...do they make you do a training course before you're allowed to flush the loo?
t's $1599 Now Cyber Monday
I just purchased the Aventon Abound today. I walked into the bike shop to look at another bike, but when I test drove the abound, I was sold! Such a smooth, quick, and powerful bike with different settings to choose from for your journey like echo, cruise sport, and turbo. I also installed the kid rail seat in the back and took my some son on a nice long journey, which he loved to death. He didn't want to go home while we were out cruising.
Money well spent!
So what do you gain posting this same paragraph in just about every review of this bike?
The best E-bike review I've seen. Bravo.
Thanks for the kind words!
even though the frame looks quite solid but the rear rack with its seat seems to be way thinner - will it endure extra passengers 1 adult + toddler of their total weight about 150lbs?
For $1799, you get another extra battery for free!
Insane deal in my opinion
Do you have a review of the Murf Alpha Cargo on your radar? Love your reviews!
Why on the awful pavement on the streets you chose to test the Abound did you lock out the front fork?
Thanks for the review. What car hitch do you use? Have you tried to put 2 cargo bikes on a car hitch/rack? Appreciate your advice, thanks!
Ryan uses the QuikrStuff Mach2 and I (JT) use the Saris MHS. Both could accommodate 2 cargo bikes, but you might run into accessory interference (like kid area or rear baskets). So you might have to take those off for transport.
Overall weight and capacity, for the rack is going also depend upon vehicle hitch weight capacity. But both the racks we use have a 70-80lbs per bike capacity. The Abound, especially with the battery removed, is on the lighter side. So it shouldn’t have a problem on the racks above, assuming your vehicle can handle a +250lbs hitch weight.
The link doesn't work :-( Amazing review though thank you for helping me make my purchase decision!
Which link? Works fine on my end.
How would you lock this bike up outside a grocery store? Would I need a folding lock large enough to wrap around the main tube? It looks all the rear tubes around the wheel are blocked, and the rack seems like it'd come off with Allen keys?
We would probably just use a chain lock. Kryptonite is our go to (possible recommendation: amzn.to/3EgapAt (affiliate link))
Also yes the rear rack portion is bolted on. Tight spaces so it would be challenging.
I use a disk brake lock to secure my bike. It's similar to what is used for a motorcycle.
Can you key lock this bike or do you need to carry a chain lock?
You better bring a chain lock.
I am glad that you keep mentioning the weld finish quality of the Aventon bikes. Their good looks are always worth a shout out. I wish my new cargo bike was pretty like an Aventon but mine looks like it was designed for World War 2. I got this Aventon beat on specs though. Got the suspension fork and hydraulic Tektros like the Abound. But mine came with 1000w Bafang hub and 34ah of Samsung batteries. Does 28mph off the throttle, has a lot of range, and climbs hills well. Rides smooth on fat 20x4 tires too. I'm not sorry that I chose function over style but it would be nice to have both.
What kind of bike do you have ?
Why is that bamboo board $70 ??
You can't have your cake & eat it too !
Seems so cool. The issue I have is that it is NOT pedal-assist, it is a motorcycle with pedals. There is added risk on those. But, then again, good for some light commuting and shopping, beats the costs of a car.
Will a Thule Yepp Maxi mount on this bike?
The Abound does not have a Thule Yepp window in the rear rack. We plan to check into the ability to fit a universal Thule Yepp mounting plate in the future.
@@EbikeEscape do you know which child seats will mount?
My understanding is that you have to use the adapter plate thing. What bums me out is that you can’t put 2 of the Thule maxi seats on the rack according to Aventon.
Wheel base?
50.1" or 1274mm, is the listed wheelbase.
@@EbikeEscape thanks
I wish Vinfast or similar of Vietnam would build and export a bicycle like this. China has enough of my money.
The collapsing stem is KILLING me -- it's not that it exists, but is wobbly under stress. Other than that, the bike would be perfect!
I'd still buy, though.
For $2200.00 you better see hydraulic brakes and front fork suspension. kind of of a wimpy little light for $2200.00. Those cables need to be cleaned up, they will get caught on things, potentially pulling you off the bike. that cable management is horrible! Why talk about folding bike and narrow handle bars when you are not reviewing a folding bike? compare the handlebars to other bikes in the same class... So far not a single word about those squeaky brakes.Two dimensional video doesn't tell or show the angle (steepness) of the route, the review needs an angle finder on the front cargo rack.
If I get this bike (imminently) I plan to try to wrap those cables, you are right about that. I believe that the Tetra hydraulic brakes are supposed to be better than the Expedition, but not sure how much that factors in. A concern of mine is getting spiked from the chain, the chain slapping and falling off , so it might seem silly but the chain guard and other feature is a big deal. Yeah about the squeaky brakes! I don’t care so much for the extra sporty look bc I don’t want to be stopped a lot as one reviewer said would happen bc bike looks so good. Another I’d be paying for is the service for a while at local dealer shop. Do you think suspension is important w smaller wheels?
The brakes really suck, I have went through 3 sets !
needs a belt instead of a chain and needs bigger battery
Lots more $$$ though
@@EbikeEscapeI just bought this bike based thanks in part to this wonderful review. My question is, which affordable bike rack would you recommend for it?
@@roularita9968 what is your experience?