BSG RESPONDED About The New EDITION (My Thoughts)
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i love how the game went from "holy crap its getting super good! they are fixing a ton of stuff and making the game overall better. cant wait till tarkov comes out!"
to: "tarkov is done for" in quite literally a singular day.
typical BSG fashion. Theyve been on a roll of great patch followed by a patch somehow making the game worse than it was to begin with. This one is just a straight betrayal of the supporters. Sheef said it best $20 is about the most i would pay for that upgrade and even that's pushin it.
and its so sad because the other changes in the patch are actually really good, less inertia and less aim punch.
I started playing just two months ago after drooling over it for years but having to bad of a pc. Been playing 10+ hours a day since. Absolutely fucking obsessed with it, best game i've played.
Makes me so sad to think they'd just dump this piece of art as a cashgrab. Can only imagine how long time players with thousands of hours played feel about this.
Is it coop?
not exactly a single day, when the stash space upgrade came out is when i started to lose hope
While LVNDMARK was live, they were changing the verbiage on the website as he was going over it. This shit is so fucking nuts.
Can you explain a little more in depth?
@@RickyHimselfthey removed references to the content of EOD that specified the Gamma container was "unique to EOD" - that formed part of the contract entered into when the EOD edition was sold. The fact they've now removed that is a breach of UK consumer law and is legally actionable
@@SuperMickyChow Unreal, they really screwed the people who supported them all these years, and at the worst time with Gray Zone and Arena Breakout coming out in the near future.
@@RickyHimself theyre milking people (more specifically EOD users) for more money. no one in the right mind would pay 250 usd for a video game. they prolly doing this cause the games like grayzone and arena breakout are coming out soon and htey know their game is gonna die
@@laithnaber6752Destiny 2 lunatics be like, "only $250?"
I love how every Tarkov streamer are speaking up. Another Sheef W
Way to many of them bought the new version and clearly supports it.
@@spkz0r doesnt matter the big streamers arent supporting it. lvnd pest sheef klean trey etc
Not all of em. Ticklemepink tried to defend them
@@devinhickman1230 thats why no one fucking knows who ticklemepink is.
@@99Djarum alright bro chill 😂 I unsubbed and agree he’s a dumb shit bag I was just saying some of them are defending bsg
They had literally said that EOD is going to be the highest edition, then all of a sudden they come out with this. This has got to be illegal somehow, easy lawsuit.
I believe someone is currently in the process of filing one against bsg on the reddit.
Lmfao a lawsuit.... no you ain't got a lawsuit not by a long shot, you'd get thrown out of court in a second lol
"They said the version I bought 8 years ago was the best pay to win version then after 8 years they released a version that's more pay to win, I want money" never in a million years lmfao
when did they say that
How do u want sue a russian company?
@@jlo7770seems much more plausible to base the lawsuit around the fact that they promised access to future DLC, and lied about that. it’s a scam
Had I known I’d be wasting 100$+ on DLC I wouldn’t get I would’ve stuck to the base game edition and just kept on playing SPT
How does one get into or play SPT without buying the Unheard edition??
@@RidiculuzPrime search for SPT-AKI and you’ll find it
@@RidiculuzPrimelook it up, super easy and you dont need anything more than basic edition
@@RidiculuzPrime when sheef mentioned it I just searched "SPT" and it was the top result. It also has a guide so it's easy to setup
@@RidiculuzPrimespt is superior, once you've installed it, get a bunch of mods and you'll have more fun on tarkov then ever
Remember when BSG was trying to make "late game" rounds more rare... and now theyre giving them away for $250... yikes.
supply and demand i guess... i've noticed a few of these changes lately and now they are charging us for them
yeah bro i dont think 60 rounds of m80 are particularly rare
lol if you actually paid attention you would know you start with 40 rnds of m80 with the m700 in EOD...... they give you a semi automatic to shoot it so they give you extra rounds. god everyone is overreacting.
@@PvMFrosties It's not the extra gear. It's not the bigger stash or trader rep or even the big pockets. If it was just that people might be upset for a minute but it would blow over quickly.
The things that really cause rage are the DLC that was supposed to be included with EOD and isn't, the magic special item that makes you invisible to scavs past 60m, and the "Avengers assemble" item that lets you call in backup players to your raid.
@@stonecoldscubasteveo4827 Guess what the Magic item gives you negative scav rep for killing a scav while wearing it on your pmc.... you know how i know that? i actually have the edition i dont just listen to everyone overreact and base my opinion on that. The comment that i was replying to was about the ammo so i dont know why your coming at me about items you haven't even tested out yourself lol. Guess what i also bought EOD and im not a crybaby like the rest of you...
i hope they loose everything over this. as an eod player with 7k hrs i am disgusted with bsg and uninstalled the game. im sick of them making promises and never keeping them, and instead we get dumb shit like this. im glad to see you, klean, and tony not buying this dumb shit and leading the charge. thank you.
You should really try the SPT with mods addons it enhance the game beyond what bsg ever can or wants to 😊
@@danielkarlsson7947 what mods would you recommend? I only have SVM
They should have just made like a campaign story mode thing
The only reason I haven’t uninstalled live tarkov is so I can play SPT 😂
😂
I smell a class action lawsuit
BSG is a Russian company that operates through a shell company in the UK. Good luck with trying to sue them.
@@ForOne814 Did you forget the FTC has international enforcement? lol...
@@636ariwhat are you going to sue for? What damages? This "imma file a lawsuit" talk is soo hilarious good luck with all that lol
It's a Russian company during war time. They know westerns can't sue. Torrent the game and play SPT
@@jlo7770 dude should tell his dad next lol
Mid Lvndmark stream they changed what the website said on the EOD edition, it said Unique secure container (3x3) and now it says Secure container (3x3). This has to be illegal.
Iam 100% certain that promising "all future dlc" and not including this is considered false advertisment in the EU atleast.
Lmfao you going to try and sue over the word unique? Lol kids stay off reddit it's not reality Jesus christ
You are focused on the semantics, these things are easy to dodge in court and don't mean anything.
@@keatonwastaken no let him pay for a lawyer. If they're mad about 250$ they going to be really mad when that gives them a hour worth of time when a lawyer will charge 10hrs to tell them you ain't got a case lmfao
@@MrJaldal I'm pretty sure that this change is illegal even in Brazil (False advertising) and it's agains the customers rights (which is some of the things that works in here) xD
Been on this game for 7 years my time has come looking forward to GZW
It’s not even close to tarkov lol, completely different gameplay
@@bartul7160 It is no longer about "It’s not even close to tarkov lol." We have played this game for years, this is a slap in the face. It screams money please! GZW & ArenaBreakout will be direct competition, the game will grow, the game will get better, etc. As long as those game developers listen to the community and create fun games, tarkov might die off.
it will fail and youll be back to eft
@callmeidk1682you can fly back and get your looot. It’s weenie hut JR tarkov
@@sigriede2024 doubted haven't played in forever and this is the final nail
Nobody tell Sheef that during LVNDMARK's interview with Asmongold today BSG retroactively changed the wordage on old E.O.D. pages to show that E.O.D. doesn't get DLC.
He literally said it early in the video…
Sad part is this edition is exactly what id want but no way im paying 250 for a video game when ive already paid too much for eod
If you´re looking for playing offline, look out for SPT.
250 + taxes , so you are getting really close to 300
Whats funny is SPT also has pve, and double the support and dev dedication.
@callmeidk1682 Well not if you are in it for the PvP I guess, but I for example was never interested in that part of Tarkov I always wished they would focus more on PvE and if this is how they intend to do it I will happily continue playing my modded SPT
@@hammurabii.3173 tarkov was never supposed to be so much about pvp tho, it's just that streamers and crybabies turned it into that
@@hammurabii.3173 Have you seen how the SAIN bots act?
@@hammurabii.3173 theres MPT now and you can pvp with friends if you wanted
He mentioned in the video that bsg said to go ahead and play spt. Do you know if there's any source for that? Last thing I want is my account being banned cause I didn't want to play with sweats
I knew this wipes good changes were too good to be true, slap in the face to all EOD players
To all players.
lol what ? they fucked eod players over you peasants who paid for basic version can keep cryin .
They didn't fix base game issues for 7 years. They never fixed the cheater issue. It's been almost a decade and there are still warp hacks, that's an easy server side fix. They do not have a (real) dev team, they are all designers. they lasted so long because they sat on a great idea, but ran the company in the worst way possible. They know its over and are trying to milk money before the game dies as competitors release their games from real game dev teams (gray zone and arena breakout infinite). It's a slap in the face because its so obvious: they are milking an extra $100 from EOD players, because of course no reasonable person is paying $250 for a video game, let alone a game running on 8 year old tech. They aren't reaching out to new players by fixing the game or making it better, they intend to milk existing players (arguably addicted) before the game collapses.
no game or anticheat on the planet has fixed the cheater issue. it is not possible. every human on earth could have an anticheat from 1000 years in the future implanted into their brains and people would still figure out how to cheat.
Agree. They know it’s over. This game will never be more than a beta
hard to fix cheat issue when it was built on unsecure spaghetti code to start with. cheaters have had keys to the kingdom since day 1
arena breakout infinite has real devs, you gotta be kidding lmao, BSG is super wrong for this but ABI doesn't get the win, that game is a carbon copy
present situation make me can only say that maybe banning cheaters is the most important way to make money to nikita, any normal player who have paid alot to buy EOD is of no worth to nikita,
Nobody woulda complained about a SPT DLC. But this, just wow…
Especially when theres a free mod
Fun fact: PvE still depends on free available resources in the online cluster, so expect "matching" load times up to 10minutes (even alone with bots, no other players in coop), while SPT-AKI you get instantly (in a few seconds) in the raid.
this is simply false lol. you are just making shit up or repeating stuff you have heard others say. the load times are about 1 min to get in the game lol
Ah no. The long load time is a bug, normal load time is about a minute, more or less. Depends on your pc tho
@@PvMFrosties no you BSG bot, I know people who got this new dogshit edition and it sometimes takes up to 10 min to get in a raid, while in SPT you're in under 30 seconds, cry about it dummy.
@@PvMFrosties no it's not. I have it recorded. And it's not a PC or network issue: cabled Gigabit Ethernet on a Core i9/32GB/RTX4090. 🤷🏼
@@PvMFrostiesyour such a shill lmao, are you Nikita?
The increased pockets is also huge for quests that restrict you to a scav vest.
Pay to win and EOD owner gets screwed
@@yanzi1957 Most EOD owners already have thousands of hours in this game. Every year Call of Duty and other games re-release content for $60/yr and we've been playing the same great game for $150 over multiple years. EOD owners have BEEN HAD their money's worth a for a while now.
@@Huber01 as true as this is doesnt make it any less ok to fuck your most loyal customer/playerbase over. pure scum would never fork over another dollar to this shit company
Here in Malaysia. Its 1100 Myr. Just to upgrade from standard edition. With that amount i feed my family for 2 months.
The large streamers of the game need to band together and force some legal implications upon BSG for blatant consumer fraud.
bro it's a videogame..
Apparently its in the motions in the UK and Canada not sure about the US. The "Subsequent DLC" claim, is a legal snaffu for them. They blatantly broke the law with this. Not just a PR nightmare, its now a legal one.
And real money and real lies if youre not upset go buy the expansion @ismaelchafra1893
@@ismaelchafra1893 He's right though lol
@@ismaelchafra1893 And ? Its still a scam. Like literally. This shit can easly go to a class action lawsuit in court both in Europe and Australia (other regions I m unfurtunatly not that well informed)
Easy bank for everyone invovled vs BSG.
The past few weeks updates from BSG before this one were so good and doing so much to improve the game and BSG's reputation for many people and I think the game was in one of its best states in a long time and then this just dropped it to one of its worst.
laughable no it wasnt they were just trying to soften this blow like the preach grooming a child
This REALLY feels like they are getting ready to dump the game and just leave with the money
Plot twist: nikita got drafted and this is his final act before being shipped to ukraine😂
@@Fred_the_1996 you made it sound like Nikita is some sort of product 😂 bro is getting shipped like an amazon package
@@Fred_the_1996Russia doesn’t need to draft they already have enough soldiers for the war
Or they are getting money to add more hair and finish the game
the '24h song' from the fallout series is coming to mind here..
What about the people that are going to use the "disstress signal" to call in cheaters. rediculous....
Yep... Or the other way around (kinda same still tho), cheater calling in people for RMT, loot red card, GPUs etc.
It’s apparently only available in the pve mode, the scav beacon tho is in the pvp
@@josephcarpenter5980there is not a single reference on their website or in the patch notes that backs up your claims. The item is absolutely for the actual game and not the offline/pve mode.
@@josephcarpenter5980 source?
I've never felt bad for streamers until now, can you imagine coming into a match, hearing a nade as a streamer, then seeing a flare go up for some assholes entire friends list to come hunt you down?
BSG really fucked us all over, them included.
On top of all this when I hopped on today the patch reset my Weekly that had 5 days left on it. It was to kill Sanitar 10 times and had a green key card as one of the rewards and I only needed 3 more kills. Gonna go play a game in my backlog and try to forget about Tarkov for a while lol.
Just let the game die we just need a real company to make tarkov and once it dies another will fill in and hopefully be better
god bless you brother i wish you luck on healing from this
@@Dietznutz132 And that's Arena Breakout Infinite
If I knew I would not get all new content in the future I never would have bought EOD
Sheefgg, I've been loving your content and the banter man. This take, is 100% spot on, can't wait to see you smash folk in a game more deserving of your trust bro!
Look forward to watching the grey zone stream!
When is the stream
Wtf i pay over 100 dollars for dlcs and this shit is the real way you get extra dlcs
It may be possible Nikita is of Jewish Heritage
@@chumpydump get outta here with your antisemitism bs, it has no place here
@@chumpydump for real bro, he just might be
To put it into context. Here in Brazil the upgrade, ONLY THE UPGRADE, is R$1341.93 (taxes included). The minimum wage is R$ 1412. Even the most recent Ubisoft scummy game that was announced (Star Wars Outlaws) is cheap compared to that.
Mano, exatamente.
Eu ganho 2.085,00 por mês, e esse upgrade é basicamente MEU SALÁRIO POR UM MÊS DE TRABALHO ???
Doença essa BSG, tenho o EOD e não vou fazer o upgrade, aliás, já chega dessa po***, desinstalei.
Jesus a whole month of working for a fucking scam.smh scummy ass devs
so you trade 1 hr for more content and potentially hundreds of hours of entertainment? sounds cheap to me
@@slizzilin An hour??? That's for the whole month.
@@slizzilin literally a month
It wasnt a wiggle, it wasnt a finacial report, it was and was always going to be BSG that would kill tarkov
For others who live in oceanic countries it's basically $360 in our currency. $200 if you upgrade from EOD
Yep. Not about to spend my entire week of rent on this stupid edition of the game. Scum bag Devs.
$175 NZ if you use a US VPN. Still fucking ridiculous.
In south America, ITS BASICALLY 600-1000 R$.
Payment for month: 1400R$ ( 250$)
$383 is the current conversion from USD to AUD, fucking insane 😅
It isn't pay to win... its a money making play.... ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY. fuck them
dude. This is Insane.
I’ve been playing both eft and spt just depending on how I’m feeling also have a baby so it’s nice to be able not be so locked in on spt but still have the feeling
Respect to you sir for calling them out
I was talking with a group of friends whom we all played the crap out of this game. I told them 4 years ago that BSG was heading down a slippery slope and wasn't going to turn out like we had hoped. They called me crazy. Then they stopped playing after today. I hate so much how right I was.
glad to see like every content creator shit on this, I have EOD im beyond pissed i have to give them more money for this stuff
i also have eod right before they stopped it and they release a different one better than eod when eod was limited? hell no
i have a few friends going "greatest update in the world" and instantly spent the 100 dollars on it.
@@simpy3651your friends might need an iq test
@@simpy3651 get new friends. but seriously dont give them money its not worth 10 dollars extra let alone 100
You don't have to give then anything. 90% of the player base will never play co op offline because you can't do anything with that, it's not fun. Everyone will play the standard version you have. This is the most childish shit ever. Bsg should pull that package and micro transaction everything and say f you. Want a different shirt? 10 dollars. Wannq play a different game that requires all different serves? 50$ don't wanna pay for it don't play it.
DLC is subject to the game its self through its life span. This is ENTIRELY different
Can't we sue them for the dlc reason etc...? Like a class action?
Here in NZ, EOD was 140 dollary-doo's. I barely play the game but thought, hey down the line once Tarkov is shiny and perfect Ill have all the cool additions. What a fucking joke
Sheef out here preaching. One of the only streamers actually talking like an actual person who bought that game and not a fence sitting, vague streamer
Theyre currently going on their site and editing the EOD edition wording when you look at your account
Also in the spt part there is a literal zero percent change of getting banned if you install it right
Welcome to Soviet Russia where DLC means "Deposit Loyalty, Comrades!"
DLC = Downloadable content. So if this isn't DLC then how do you get it? Do they post it to your home or do you need to pick it up somewhere or how do you get it?
what it looks like is they feel like the people for pay for unheard will tell them in the test servers what they will pay for in the future. Test serves no longer there to improve and test but instead "what do you want to pay for and we'll add it"
Have not touched live Tarkov in over 6 months. Been enjoying the shit out of SPT. Never going back.
I mean good for you, but most of us don't like shooting bots.
@@Zedaso Have you ever played any single player game ever? It’s exactly the same.
Yeah, but that's why we play Tarkov. The PvP is fun as fuck and not like any single game could ever offer. @@ProclarushTaonas
@@ProclarushTaonasI only play tarkov because of the PVP and because of the risks involved. Just like I play counterstrike or valorant. Totally fine to play spt but it’s different strokes for different folks
@@Zedasobruh the bots is SPT are relentless 💀
Agreed. I've gone to play SPT. AND Thousands are coming with me. See you in the Grey Zone, Sheef!
Gg boys I’m escaping
7:45 wow! That is honestly really cool! Now I just have to get friends.
Thank Sheef for having a backbone, earned a new sub.
The point of this being more of a DLC than Arena is a point ive been making since this whole thing came out im glad someone else sees it the way I do aswell
Wish I could refund the EOD and stash space i purchased
Me too.
Wait for the false advertisment lawsuit and refund it after ;)
@@MrJaldallmfao good luck with that
@@jlo7770here you are again loser
so sad. i saw the crab walking and loot changes and was so happy that things were finally being fixed, but then THIS. wow
Content and lying to EOD users aside....
That Edition in Germany costs about 330€ with tax.
Three hundred fkn thirty euros.
This is insane!
It's a third of 1000€ for a freaking game
Not to mention you can also get the SAME GAME for 45 euros (the cheapest version) so either way its kinda a bad deal on top of the bullshittery they did put in this new version
Your numbers are a little bit of.
It´s 303,70€.
@@TankJr.like thats any better lol
Lol I'm glad you can do simple math yes but 330 is apprx one third of one thousand. Fantastic math skills
@@byroopepalomaa it is precisely 26,30euros better. In times like this it is important to be accurate and not sway the truth in either direction.
In that gamma pouch was supposed to be a unique theme to EOD
lets see how next month this same streamers are gonna be posting "why now is the best time to start playing EFT"
With the thing where they let newer player to the testing servers over an exerienced one, does make sense if you have both parties. To have experienced players you need a way of hooking on newbies and then you can think about how to keep the experienced ones (also there are no microtransactions so they need player rotations to keep the servers afloat)
Yep I guess it is an exit strategy. They didn't even release the sell tax report in UK for this year. They delay it. mmmh looks fishy to me. Maybe they are bankrupt already and try to get some more money.
Thank you so much for talking about this Sheef, BSG was fine and doing well with the fixes but Nikita needs to get his head out of his azz and get his team back on track.
Hey SHEEF! long time viewer here, love your videos and learning from you.
I was a silly guy and bought the Unheard... im happy to let you use my account so you can play the Early access!
Thanks mate all the best and keep up the great content!
W take Sheef. My friends got me into Tarkov about 3 years ago and I forked out the extra money figuring it was a good investment thinking I would get all future content. Absolute slap in the face to their players and middle finger to people who took their word and trusted their promise with EOD edition. It's just scummy man.
Absolutely spitting facts Sheef, at this point im not sure what im going to be making videos on but until BSG get their shit together it sure as S*it ain't going to be on tarkov.
I'm already talking with my lawyer buddies who are gamers about filling lawsuits. "We're all law students or employed lawyers."
“Pride defeats its own end by bringing the man who seeks esteem and reverence into contempt.” - Henry IV
Squad, arma reforger, and pubg are all really fun to play now
Or DayZ and SPT
The fact they added a back up feature in a $250 version of the game is absolutely wild.
I play mainly The Division 2 and there's been a built in call/respond to back up feature which also has it's own rank progression system for players who respond to back up requests to help other players.
BSG really just said fuck their game, let's start milking the community who has backed there game for the past 8 years.
To be fair I'm still in disbelief, like this is some April 1st type of shit.
I’m proud of this video. Good for you, Sheef 👏
Glad you’re speaking out on this. Kudos for standing up for us
increased mail retention time is wild to charge for too even
damn i havent seen a sheef video in a while no glasses no full beard like a whole new man
also i get an extra charge on this but jesus christ an extra 100 on top of eod id be i guess okay for 20-30 but youre also adding way to much p2w intto the game
Bsg needs to make more money we spent $150 years ago and played thousands of hours. So they can use season passes and gambling boxes, or cheaters accounts, or a season pass system all shitty. BUT there will be no tarkov if they don't make any money, servers cost money development costs money. Think about it COD players buying the "NEW" COD are 60 dollars deeper a year again we spent $150 YEARS ago and played for thousands of hours
I will keep playing SPT I love the mods that make pmcs seem real
What mods are those? I have been wanting to try out SPT, and now seems like the right time
@@ShadeLightTheory SAIN for AI improvements, SAIN PMC Terminator preset if the default SAIN presets are too easy for you. Swag+Donuts for live like raid spawns. Questing bots so the bots do quests just like players and Looting Bots so the bots loot like players do. Then there is mods that further improve the mods I mentioned (BigBrain and Waypoints) but the details for that are explained on the respective mods pages on the SPT-AKI hub website. Oh and also take a look at Amands's Graphics. this mod fixes much of the frustrating fog issues on the maps. In general modding SPT is really easy, just drag and drop.
@@ShadeLightTheory SAIN, Waypoints, looting bots
Thinking it back.. probably the only reason that BSG (Nikita) listened to what Pestily said on the interview was so they could ease off this edition. It was perfect timing for it.
You know, I wasn't quite understanding the pay to win aspect, but now I cannot believe my eyes. I had no idea that unheard shit was so crazy. I had the oppottinity to upgrade to the edition and I did it just for the stash and gamma case, but now I almost want a refund. It is insane to me.
It sounds very muck like EOD, but sightly better.
The only thing that ever mattered with EOD was the larger secure container anyway.
I dont care as i have only eveer had standard edition for thee extra challenge anyway LOL!
- EOD players gimme everything for free for life
- Post EOD players, finally we get the same things as EOD but more expensive
- BSG we need money
It's honestly not that hard to monetize a game. Regardless of weather you have a free to play setup or people purchased the game a long time ago and now you as a studio need to proved entertainment to an audience that isn't expecting to pay more for more experiences. Granted this sounds like the consumer is being unreasonable, but the reality is people bought EOD for 2 reasons, 1, Gamma container. 2, access to all future additions to the game. So it was BSG's choice to offer this and so they must lay in the bed they've made. And it does make sense for them to want to find an additional way to make more money for their game so that they can remain on a development track that will see them create the game they set out to when they started. But the way of doing that is not through making your FIRST and most LOYAL players feel like they've been betrayed, it's through the means of selling digital items (things that can be created once and sold infinitely) like cosmetics, custom posters in your hideout, different backgrounds, stash space lines, etcetera. They could even do custom watches for your wrist or custom gloves for your hands. There is a huge list of possible options that do not include giving any outright advantage to any player purely based on how monetarily invested they are in real life to this game.
To be specific about the 'advantages', starting gear is not too much of an issue. maybe the starting gear is decent but ultimately could last you as little as your first 3 raids and doesn't give you any way of replacing the good ammunition that you have started with (like 7.62x51 M80 and 7.62x54 PS) so realistically giving people a couple more guns/armors/medicine/roubles to start with, not having the ability to buy, isn't really the end of the world. It starts to get concerning where BSG puts in a new game mode or whatever they want to call it and don't give it to the people that paid for a package that includes "all future dlc". And you can tell BSG wasn't so sure how this would be perceived by their fans and that it was maybe not that great of an idea based on their response on twitter. *presses glasses to forehead with index finger* "Technically, since you're not downloading anything and we are only using already existing assets, it's not DLC" -Local not very intelligent BSG guy. That was not an exact quote btw but I did have fun imagining that's exactly how it went down. Bro if BSG really thinks that jipping its fans and telling them it's ok based on a technicality, then technically, it was my computer that made the purchase of this game so I need a refund. And although I 'accidentally' played nearly 3,000 hours of it but BSG also 'accidentally' planned produced and sold digital assets in their game whos player base has already paid more than DOUBLE what other games of its caliber are on the market; and now BSG has DOUBLED THE PRICE AGAIN, disrespected their fans and says it's ok because 'technically', fill in the blank. The expanded pockets are definitely a bit much and the situation can be compared to people who had alpha or beta containers playing against players with gamma, the only problem is that you have to pay and extreme amount of money for this, which doesn't really make sense from a realism perspective, gameplay perspective, and doesn't even line up with what a player would consider 'worth' and ADDITIONAL $250. But the chef's kiss is that fucking radio distress signal. What the fuck are they smoking over their that they just stole from the mines of Ukraine that could possibly give so many extra chromosomes to someone to come up with this idea. Are we playing Destiny now? Are they now not only trying to squeeze every penny out of us, but are also so enthralled by doing it that they are trying to make obvious the similarities to the greatest scam of all gaming, Bungie's Destiny?
The big things here to worry about, 1 PVE not included for EOD users, 2 Expanded PMC pockets, 3 starting cases, 4 in raid cost reduction with interactables (BTR/ Vehxtract), and 5 starting skills/rep. But why are they problems?
1)PVE- Not including pve isn't driving me insane like it's the new streets and i cant play it cuz I don't have the bread, I have absolutely no interest in playing that dogshit. But i do feel uncomfortable with BSG telling me if I give them a bunch of money they'll give me this game and everything in this games future will be available to me for helping play/test/fund this project in it's infancy, and then them doing this and saying they're ok to do it because of a technicality that they made up. Again not that the game is ruined bc I cant play PVE, but my trust is ruined in BSG, and now as a player I feel less valued and more used.
2)Expanded PMC pockets have problems outlined by what sheef said, allowing you to risk less and gain more. Its exactly the dilemma of Alpha/Beta case vs Gamma case being pay to win. It is. We've all had plenty of time with the game and with the different secure containers to understand that the Gamma container is OBJECTIVELY better and OBJECTIVELLY makes the game easier in multiple ways for the player and this is ONLY because of real world monetary investment. And this was presented in this manner at one point where people were torn on weather or not this was in fact pay to win and now we are seeing history repeat itself. Gotta stop supporting the bullshit here before it continues to fester and we get more
3)Starting with the cases is NOT the end of the world. However, i would argue that giving such items at the start is taking away from the game. The game is about survival and procuring gear to help you on your journey. AN ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE PORTION OF THIS GAME, IS STARTED AT THE BOTTOM NOW THE THICC CASE HERE. My point is that part of playing the game is the progress you make; and that progress is rarely felt as much by the player when they get their first new case to store things in. Some will say they are trying to cater to newer players and that's why this change was made, but this is not helping new players. This is actually hurting them in my opinion. Because they won't know the effort it took everyone else to get their first scav case or weapons case or whatnot. They're literally taking the fun out of the game. Like why play a game, to have fun on whatever journey it is you are making. You start at the beginning and go to the end. Now I'm not saying the game is over now that you have one case but it definitely feels like starting the main story campaign on mission number 4 out of 10, and you're not preserving the wonder and novelty of the game for newer players, you're actively killing it to make things 'easier'. Got news for ya BSG, we DONT like the game for being easy, we like it because its hard.
4)In raid cost reduction is pretty stupid and unnecessary. Like not really that much of a difference in gameplay except you might be able to have the btr follow you all over the map killing everyone because you're constantly paying for cover fire, which would be highly annoying. But it really just feels more like ok we are gonna charge more that $200USD for this new thing, we gotta add more stuff. The result is a bunch of random perks/bonuses that don't aren't cohesive, no one cares about, and isn't adding anything to make the game better. You're just making the game easier by trying to cater to newer players when that's exactly the reason they wont stick around. You're trying to attract the casual gamer into the world's least casual game. Let the morons keep playing cod and paying for it every year like they're just getting new dlc (btw that is ultimately what call of duty is. every year they just add new guns to the same shit game). The point here is mainly in line with what I said above. You're ruining the longevity of you're own game to please people who's attention spans can't allow them to stick around longer than a few tiktok's.
5)Starting at anything other than zero makes no sense. I mean if everyone started out with all the same stats and rep, that'd be one thing. Because since everyone start at the same place, that would be the new zero. And any version of the game that allows you to skip the game to the end is like skipping the movie to watch the credits. Who tf does that. you watch the move to enjoy the story/plot. To be entertained. You play a game to be immersed/challenged; unless you're a cheater, in which case you don't even know why you do the things you do. Literally purchasing a VIDEOGAME meant to be PLAYED, but instead you'd rather download a game than then also download a player and watch the game play itself. Genuinely, what the actual fuck is wrong with you.
I don't feel like I need to mention the distress signal thing again because if that isn't a joke then Muhammad actually met allah and Hillary Clinton isn't a murderer
LMK IF YOU AGREE OR IM CRAZY
Dang man that was so cool
STFU I AM REPLYING TO MY OWN SHIT BC ITS WAY TOO LONG FOR ANYONE ELSE TO READ IT AND I TYPED FOR TOO LONG FOR THIS SHIT
Respect for you Sheef and the others who are voicing their opinion on this atrocity, instead of kissing BSG’s ass
respect for actually having the balls to say it with a fuck you or two in there
BSG: "I'm altering the deal, pray i don't alter it further"
I really thought after the interview that it wasn't going too bad
the radio... make it quest-tied to be multi-use
make it need a 'recharge' at the intel center after 3 deaths or so
I wanted tarkov and was so exited when i heard SPT is being added, 250 bucks is crazy, i can get better ram with that
Can't wait for when they have to retroactivly change the unique tags and the dlc promise when they release the unseen edition for 500 dollars.
With almost everything being server sided in this game, Im surprised they dont just charge a monthly fee
Which would have been a fair business model. However with the sale of EOD I think they cant really do that. So they have to find another way. My opinion on the correct way to monetize is: Battlepass pr wipe (10$ maybe) with cosmetics, some new quests for this wipe and a hideout pet or melee weapon as the last reward, pay for access to wipe server(10$ again maybe) if you dont pay you play persistent servers. Could even be pay to play a hardcore server for a wipe or something. This would allow people to pay for what they want to do, and I think most of us would pay 10$ every 6 months to play a wipe. People who have bought the game will still get to play without paying more. Maybe next time, I dont think they are coming back from this one
The not being shot at by scavs over 60 m is cool, but if you're wearing the item and you kill a scav you lose .05 rep so it might be hard to stay above 6 if you're using it a lot.
BSGs response to the backlash has resulted in them announcing a new matchmaking service that EOD owners wont permanently get which is an even worse situation than before they responded...
I was in your stream for a bit last night when you were saying it wasnt P2W, glad to see you changed your tune. Its even worse with the full details, damn! Doubt ill ever have the time for SPT even if it were free and easy to start.
Whatever other game you will play I will watch 100%. I came long time ago for tarkov content but your calm attitude and mindset is why I stayed. I escaped tarkov at arena release because all my mates was buying it althought we owned eod and I could smell the greed already. Much luck for future content and other awesome games!
They straight up deleted the wording on the website LIVE while landmark was look at the verbiage of eod
I'm an aussie, bought the game nearly 18months ago, liked it so much i upgraded to EoD. In aussie dollars via USD conversion it was around $250aud in total. Didn't pay a cent for anything for past 18months or so and am up to 4k hours now. I bought stash space when it dropped to help support the game i love and the company that needs to make money without excessive MTX like EVERY second game does these days. I mean man, I've spent more on a mobile gotcha game in 2 months than i have in total playing 4k hours in Tarkov so why not! But then when they drop this scam, its another $170aud (after USD conversion & tax) for an offline mode with benefits and some DLC. I just cant justify that sorry BSG, break the pack down into smaller transactions and I'll help you out, not all the extra stuff your EoD summary said I'd get included.
just to note, as of 5 hours ago from this comment they said that having EoD will give access to PvE for free and that in the future they will add modding support for PvE
still the gama was EXCLUSIVE for EOD, the fact that they edited it out in real time last night, while they were getting shited on..was crazy. That's a Class action lawsuit by it self..
This news is truly unheard of.
Thanks for your video man. I still asked for a refund for my upgrade because I realized I would not want to play a PVE non season mode. What you say about other streamers using the drama and stirring up without caring sounds radical though, I feel a lot of them reacted cause they felt betrayed, like I did. I mean, it's about the principle of honoring promises they made in their EOD product description. I'm still going to stand by EFT cause, like you brilliantly said, there is just nothing else out there right now. Thanks for your honesty man. Keep up the good content.
Honestly im pretty new to watching sheef and he gets a ton of respect from me for the unfiltered opinions definitely will be a long time viewer
A question I also have is since you get ets with this bundle, do you get the ets gift package for the main game. For those who don’t know, if your an ets member, you get a gift you can claim once every wipe that gives you a weapon case and some other nice stuff. Does this mean you’ll get both the weapon case from the ets package and the one from the unheard bundle. Cause then that’s insane