Palpatine became too overconfident in the end. He should have been terrified of Luke. Anakin's Achilles heel was always his attachments to his close friends and family. If Anakin could be persuaded to become Darth Vader because of Padme, then Darth Vader could be persuaded to become Anakin again because of Luke. Palpatine should've known.
That’s because they didn’t know that attachment goes both ways which is some thing and I’m not saying personally Trea did this but Reven air of Jedi messed up on they were the ones who messed up on the whole attachment thing they didn’t want to believe it went both ways.
You’re right. Luke is essentially the reason anakin turned to the dark side in the first place and his family dying, as far as he knew, was why he stayed palpatines apprentice for so long. If he found out about Luke early on he probably would’ve upgraded his suit and taken better care of himself and would’ve never become Vader
one more thing, Vader witnessed the vicious act of Sidious once in ROTS while he pushed him to kill Dooku. In ROTJ Sidious pushed Luke to kill him just like that.
@@applepie1911e Luke's mere existence was proof that Palpatine had lied to Vader all those years ago about the latter killing Padme on Mustafar. There definitely wasn't a baby on that platform near the ship. It was further evidence of the extent to which Palpatine had manipulated him into servitude. Vader had hated Palpatine for years leading up to the discovery of Luke, but the hatred intensified even more from that point on (hence the ruling together as father and son sentiment to Luke in ESB). Vader was just biding his time and waiting for the right moment to toss Palpatine overboard.
He also feared Qui-gon, because Palps knew that this particular Jedi had a particular set of skills aquired throughout the years which can be used to find him and kill him.
@@lordcerrousV people always act like he beat yoda with ease like dude it was a stale mate he barely survived and palps feared yoda until his death he feared him returning to assassinate him
@Cool Dude oh I 100% agree I’ve always believed that and there force battle yoda was winning I just don’t want to say that often cause sidious fans or dark side fans freak tf out
No offense, but his fear of Luke is all over the dialogue of the films. "There is a GREAT DISTURBANCE in the Force. We have a new enemy...the young rebel who destroyed the Death Star. I have no doubt that this is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker. HE could DESTROY US. The son of Skywalker MUST NOT become a Jedi!!" Also, in the canon story "Disturbance" - Palpatine is actually legitimately freaked out when he discovers Luke in the force. Mother Talzin is an interesting pick though. She doesn't get talked about enough.
So there were basically AT LEAST 4 people that Palpatine truly feared and considered to be a genuine threat. He was also getting his ass whooped by Yoda and didn't really defeat him. Stuff like that really makes me question him being OP and one of the most powerful beings of all time. Always thought this was nothing but one gigantic retcon (never mind all the legendary characters from the past who would probably obliterate him or that Vader randomly picked him up and threw him like some ragdoll lol)
I have had to reignite my respect for Talzin. She and her clan were such a pushover in the game "starwars galaxies NGE edition" (where i first learned of her) that I never really gave her the props she deserved. She was just part of the daily grind for me of boss's/enemies i would vanquish. So that's where i'm coming from.
@@1Adrix1 pretty sure an even fight isnt “ass whooped” lol. If it was cut into %s, yoda won 51% and sidious 49%. At the end though, palpatine still won regardless of how.
To be honest, Yoda was the biggest threat to Palpatine. Not just in fighting skills and ways of the force but especially the purity and wisdom of Yoda. We have to remember how old in years Yoda was during these times and yes he lost his grip during his battle with Palpatine and he was still humble enough to admit he had failed. However Yoda who could take on Dooku at the same time as using the force to save Obi Wan and Annakin shows he was the most powerful of all the Jedi. His wisdom, humility and love for life and righteousness was the biggest threat to the all evil Emperor and beyond. The all wise Yoda won through in the end.
Uhhh no. Yoda knew he couldn't best Palpatine in battle, that is why he fled. And he had to stop fighting Dooku to save Obi-Wan and Anakin. That is why Dooku got away. We have seen Yoda in 2 lightsaber battles. Both of which he lost. Palpatine was right about one thing. His arrogance blinds him.
@@nicholasdorsett8467 no one won either of those lightsaber duels he was involved in. He and Palpatine both got blasted and he went flying further because he’s small.
@@nicholasdorsett8467 I would not say Yoda lost his duel to Dooku. Even though it was a draw where neither combatant scored a touch, Yoda clearly had the upper hand and that is part of the reason Dooku left, although Dooku was already trying to leave. But, it is noted that in their second canon duel in a canon comic on Tatooine, Yoda did lose the duel after Dooku disarmed him, and blasted him with Force Lightning. But, Yoda absolutely did disarm Sidious and in the final confrontation of Force powers, Yoda was the more powerful of the two, even if it cost him his footing. Yoda lost that duel with Sidious because the outcome was determined well before it happened. All Sidious had to do to win was not die.
Palpatine became too overconfident in the end, and even ignored warning from friends and enemies alike. Truth is, even Master Yoda warned him about Anakin being a dangerous person. Think back to their duel. Palpatine to Yoda: "You will not stop me. Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us." Yoda: "Faith in your apprentice, misplaced maybe, as is your faith in the dark side of the force." Palpatine clearly forgot that warning, and he turned his back on Anakin to try and kill Luke. That when Sidious met his end. Having used Ankin's love for Padme, and his crippling fear of losing her to turn the young Jedi to the dark side, Sidious should have known that the roots of that fear were still inside Vader, and that if unleashed, could not be controlled by anyone. How could Palpatine really have been ignorant enough to believe he could kill Luke in front of Anakin and not trigger that instinctual fear to overtake Vader?
Mother T was such a boss. Gotta respect her drive for total control all though she fell short of her goal. Still by far one of the best villains that I found myself routing for often
It can be argued that Qui-Gon Jin was perhaps the wisest of all the Jedi during the Republic area. Even more so than Yoda in terms of his connection with the living force and his uncanny belief in the will of the force guiding him. He found the chosen one and would have also discovered Sidious had he lived.
Maybe sometime in those 13 years... After all the Sith know how to hide themselves very well. That and by the time the Jedi encountered the Sith they already built an empire. That means that although they were darksiders the Jedi didn't know to look for their distinguishable presence - that is either very loud or silent but very poluted by the dark side - in the Force
Of course he'd fear Vader, regardless of how weakened he was by his injuries and the awful suit he had to wear, the prophecy stated he would destroy the Sith and bring balance the force, and Palpatine didn't want the force to be in balance, he wanted it to serve him as all Sith do, so he had to be on guard at all times. Just because Anakin had been temporarily consumed by Vader and physically weakened, it didn't mean that the prophecy would never come true,.
I mean the whole destroy the sith part was added on by yoda, the original prophecy was to bring balance to the force, cant do that by taking out the 3 dark side users, 1k jedi to 3 sith isnt balanced
I think it's only natural he feared Vader the most (Granted, Vader fanboy here). If not his remaining connection to the force, but his connection to him. He was the natural successor, a Sith Lord, heir apparent to the mantle of Sith Emperor/Master. Palpatine had to be on guard all the time around Vader and even with the Empire surrounding him, he still required countermeasures to Darth Vaders remaining strength and the danger it possessed.
Not to mention that Palp never bothered to teach Vader much about the Sith, mainly because he was a threat already. No reason to give him yet more powerups.
@Eternal Truths I don't agree with the "raw power" thing you are getting at, but I do agree Palpatine most likely feared Anakin's potential. And even without the suit, Anakin was not functional, since he couldn't speak that well, had 2 legs gone, and MAJOR burns.
Sidious couldn't get out of that room fast enough when Yoda came to confront him. He did everything he could to create distance between he and Yoda. I think Yoda throwing his Sith Lighting back in his face solidified that he could never take Yoda in one on one combat.
Exactly bro he definitely feared yoda cuz if ur not afraid you wouldnt run. And not only that i wouldnt even say yoda lost if they stayed in the same room as the fight started in yoda wouldve folded him. Palpatine got lucky bcuz the distance that got created between them and bcuz yoda lost his grip. And it still ended in a stale mate in my opinion.
@@Warlow1980 Well, the guy who made the video disagrees - as do I, and many other people. You don't seem to understand that not everything is about combat ability. Qui-Gon's ability to train Anakin and keep him from the Dark Side would have quite literally destroyed Sidious' plans (and thus the Sith).
@@americantrash593 I agree. Besides, Qui-Gon trusted the "will of the Force" and wasn't fighting for his life. He wasn't fighting with the desperation of someone who feared death.
After Sidious rise to absolute power he had only 2 concerns remaining that took all of his attention. Becoming immortal and keeping Darth Vader in check.
Honorable mention during the Republic era palpatine feared Padme Amidala she was able to sway thousands of people to her case about freedom peace and democracy to the point where he tried to assassinate her many times and she really was a thorn to a side when he found out Anakin told him of his feelings for Padme it was hard to try to get rid of her bc of how liked she is.
I think Padme was the only real political threat to him, making her more dangerous than many force users. Had she survived she would have no dount been able to rally many systems for the Rebellion.
He was essentially the one who put her on that throne. He wanted a young, naive and inexperienced leader for Naboo to sign the treaty for the trade federation. Once that whole ordeal failed he had no use for her and she became an annoyance to him politically. Once he discovered Anakin loved her he stopped trying to assassinate her and decided to use this knowledge to his advantage to swade him to the dark side. It's also theorized that Palpatine was the one who implanted those nightmares of Padme dying.
I'm definitely sure Sidious was scared of Yoda and Mace Windu. I just have that feeling he must have been because he waited until near order 66 to face them. When Windu was betrayed by Anakin that allowed Sidious to finally kill a Jedi very dangerous if somehow left alive. Yoda had to scare him until he learned he died is why he didn't want Vader to Look for Jedi high in the order. Palpatine's fear was so great he let them live to be Yoda and in a way, Yoda helped defeat Sidious by helping to Train Luke. In many ways, Yoda inspired Luke. I however think Palpatine wasn't scared of Kenobi enough because he is very key to his end. Qui Gon was Kenobi's master and I personally see a lot of Qui Gon in Kenobi.
you hit the nail on the head and note how Obi Wan liked to take on powerful force users together with a powerful force warrior. qui con and kenobi pioneered the techniques and strategies that brought down the empire
Sideous truly feared qui gon. If maul didn’t kill him and qui gon became Anakins master I guarantee he would have spared nothing to have him killed in the clone wars so he could manipulate anakin . Likely by grevious or dooku to prove his loyalty. I can tell you one thing if he heard what dooku said about sideous controlling the senate he would not take it lightly like the others did!
I think he would also have feared Qui Gon because of his ability to think outside the box, because thats really what made him this character in the first film. Obi Wan was also not always sticking to Jedi Code, but Qui Gon training Anakin would have given him a ability to think outside of the good and bad mentality of the Jedi, making it much harder to manipulate him
@@phiphi334 qui gon was a threat because he focused on the here and now vs the future. Anakin would have been more powerful, better disciplined and calmer under qui gon. Most importantly the padme factor. Obi wan knew what was going on but didn’t want to “rat” on his little brother. Qui gon, who would have been more of a father figure, would have demanded anakin tell the council but he would understand the rules needed to change and would assure anakin he would have his back at the hearing. It’s very unlikely they would have expelled anakin from the order making it much harder for palpatine to turn anakin.
@@leerogish7223 Qui Gon was the only Jedi that truly didnt deal in absolutes, understanding that rules needed to be challenged and updated with time. And while I still thing Obi Wan was also a father figure for Anakin, theres no denying that the brotherly approach obi wan had to his teachings failed to satisfy anakins desire to love padme in the open
@@phiphi334 No even though anakin said he is like a father that wasn’t the case. He was more of a friend and brother figure than a true master or father figure. Obi wan never commanded Anakins respect hence allowed himself to be seen as a less powerful big brother who mindlessly shoved the councils rules down his throat when anakin saw the same flaws with the jedi that qui gon and dooku saw.
Haven't watched the video yet I'm just going to guess. 1. Qui gon jinn: I think this because he was one of if not the only Jedi who would stray away from the rules making himself a free thinker which in theory could disrupt his plans. 2. Mother talzen: this comes from the idea she could eclipse him in power and she'd be hard to control. I think an honorable mention could be Jocasta Nu because she again in theory could train Jedi in the history where this comes into play imo is the bases of the rule of two. Bane studied the ancient sith and based the current siths ideology on the history of the Sith. If her character was developed better she could do that as well, and if I'm not wrong she hid away knowledge that Luke later found which taught of ancient Jedi
Be to fair Palpatine outplayed his Master and his arrogance. It was flawless how he lulled Plageis into a flash sense of security and then sprung like the manipulative snake that he is. I loved how even after he died, Palpatine was still afraid of his masters power.
It was not poisoning. He wore a partial lower face mask that he had too, account of assassin attempts that led to his face being sliced partly off. Which led to a very weakened state over time and when he laid down to sleep and sleep he was finally able too, is when Sidious attacked him with lightening to the face mask which stopped his ability to breath and with that killed him for he was unable to protect himself in a severely weakened state he was in and unable to breathe on top of it.
Yoda was never defeated by Palpatine, their duel ended in a draw. Yoda's "failure" was that he didn't win that fight, which he really needed to do. Also, Palpatine did try to run from that duel in the beginning before Yoda stopped him. So he did fear Yoda too, at least for a short period of time.
One was forced to flee into exile, as he admitted having failed. The other held his ground and became the Emperor of the galaxy, reigning supreme because of this victory. ''Draw'' is definitely defeat in this situation.
@@Zovereign go watch the end of that fight again when the ball of force lightning exploded. Look at their expressions. Yoda was gaining control of the situation while Palpatine was loosing it. The duel ended because the explosion knocked them both off that podium. Neither were in a position to fight after that therefor it was a draw.
@@Brian-dh9lp because he had the potential to shape Ani into a grey/true jedi that would have ruined all of Palpatine's plans. Qui-gon was also one of the wisest jedi alive and had he not died he very well could have changed the jedi order and turned them away from their dogma.
@@Brian-dh9lp lol dude it’s a joke to, stupendous wave makes about 3 videos a month on who palpatine feared most… and it’s almost always Qui Gon in every video lmao
@@Brian-dh9lp to be fair how many sith had the Jedi of that era fought? They thought the sith were a thing of the past so I get why they wouldn’t be prepared.
It's funny how we have never seen darth sidious attack jarjarbinks not even a scene together. (There might of been a scene where there sitting together for like 5seconds, not even that)It's probably because he could sense jarjar was a sith lord. From the beginning, When even the jedi council couldn't, jarjar binks is a master at hiding his own identity. To the point that even lucas himself claimed that jarjar binks was the key to the old sith order.
I've always thought that the reason Palpatine was always on guard with Vader so much was because he was always scared that Vader would figure out that everything that had happened to him was because of Palpatine, and that he knew that Vader was stronger than he was but he had to control him. The dreams he had of Padme and his family dying, his dreams of his mother were all exploited and planted by Palpatine, full well knowing that Padme was going to die if Anakin turned to the dark side. Which is why Palpatine always is trying to control Vader as much as possible, and continues to and reinforces him to believe that Anakin is dead and it's only Vader until Luke comes and makes Vader realize he is Anakin after all.
There were also the Force Wielders of Mortis. He referred to them as "The Mortis Gods". Meaning that this show of reverence could also be that he feared them, as well.
I believe he also feared the return of Yoda to some degree and he also feared losing the service of Grand Admiral Thrawn as he believed thrawn would be an immensely powerful foe against the imperial military machine.
I am sure he also feard Padam due to her able to stand up to the raise of the empire and was able to rally other groups to her side. I mean she started the rebellion and if left live would have brought the empire to its knees much faster then what happened.
I think it’s important to point out that for a brief moment Palpatine feared Maul and for great reason. In very short time Maul created a huge criminal organization known as the shadow collective, controlling hundreds of planets in the outer rim as he took over many already dominantly established criminal bands. Since Maul had been quickly constructing his own empire very irrelevant to the events of the Clone Wars, they were untouchable by the Republic laws and not an immediate threat to the separatists, meaning for the first and only time in the trilogy, he had to take matters into his own hands.
I read somewhere that he also feared 7th day Adventist. He had standing orders if they came knocking that all the lights should be suddenly turned off on the death star.
Honestly surprised no one in this comment section is mentioning Mace? In terms of actual duelling Mace at the time of Revenge of the sith was probably the only one who could legit defeat him in a one on one
Sith philosophy is all about fear, it's about ambition gaining strength to increase your power, sure, but the more power you gain the more fear you gain, fear that you will lose your power, fear that someone else is ambitious. Inability to let go and the fear of death is why there are so many sith ghosts hanging around, they're still just freaking terrified. Palpatine kept Vader loyal with fear, terrifying him into believing he could never stand a chance against Palpatine because of his own weakness. Vader then tried to cover up his perceived weakness by instilling fear in others, he made people think he was the Terminator. He was out there, he could not be bargained with, he could be reasoned with, he doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear and he will not stop until you're dead. It gets pretty obvious with how as soon as Vader realizes Luke is a decent enough fighter and they could team up to take out the emperor, he tries to bait Luke into joining him. Vader's sith ambition was not gone, it was just suppressed by his fear of Palpatine.
I think he feared Luke the most. Palpatine (posing as Snoke) said this to Kylo in a Rise of Kylo Ren comic: Snoke - “He has earned my respect, and my fear” Kylo - “He is weak” Snoke - “He is not weak, he is misguided. If I had your uncle on my side instead of you, the galaxy would’ve been mine a long time ago” Even in the films it’s seemingly made clear. He refers to Luke as an enemy and identifies his power in the originals. And in the sequels, it seems pretty coincidental that he waits for Luke to die in order to carry out his plan.
Palpatine Also feared Master Yoda, Galen Marak, & if He ever Found Out That Luke & Leia was Born as The OffSpring of Anakin SkyWalker, Palpatine would have Feared Them as well Because Palpatine is Very Paranoid & He Would have Ordered an Execution of Order 66 on Luke & Leia by Dispatching The Sith Inquisitors to Hunt Them Down & Kill Them!
The Son of Dathomir comic is so good and perfectly illustrates the relationship between Palpatine and Talzin and why he would be so afraid of her that he had to kill her. It’s a shame the Clone Wars never lasted long enough for us to get that arc in animation form.
Also I think, Realistically the only thing Sidious truly feared, was his own death and the inability to come back into the world of the living. Much like Pleaguis! Vader succeeded in the end, BUT as we know - it was only a temporary victory over Sidious. His chosen weapon of power ⚡ also made him witness other close shaves with the FULL power of his own force lightning turned against him twice! 1st time - Episode 3 he survived 2nd time 30 + years later - Episode 9 - He finally drew the short straw and we bid him a final farewell! 😁
@@KeepPunchin76 Well If This Sidious was a clone in 9 Vader did defeat the real one. It's easy to make a clone think he is the real person they are the clone of. He was the empire puppet my guess.
The fact that he was as calm as he was when master yoda survived and pressed him in his office gives you an idea of the magnitude of his power. Sidious is no joke
Starkiller 100% would’ve killed Palpatine in their duel had none of his friends or allies been there. He severely wounded Darth Vader without getting scratched himself (a feat literally no one but him had) and was whooping Palpatine before he had to sacrifice himself.
Another being Palpatine feared was the Zillo Beast. When it looks at him through the window, you can see true fear in Palp’s face. He realized that this thing is way stronger than him and even worse was directly targeting him for his remarks earlier. No amount of lightsabers or Force Lightning could defeat the Zillo
Truthfully it’s 1. Yoda 2. Mother Talzin 3. Master Windu 4. Anakin But Master Windu actually beat him 1 on 1 light saber and force power! Plus I also believe Master Yoda got too complacent in his older age as to why Sidious was able to manipulate him. But Sidious really just outsmarted them and got lucky at the right time! Sidious really took the cowardly route. He didn’t want to face anyone straight up…….but it worked for him though😒
Nooooo their actually correct in this video anakin is either 1 or 2 u do know how powerful anakin would of gotten if he didn't have the suit and don't forget even yoda himself and darth sidious feared him why do u think darth sidious wanted anakin by his side even george lucas has said that anakin would be stronger than God's
Palpatine underestimated Yoda. Force Users Palpatine feared: Ashoka (because of her connection to Vader and the force, not to mention he not being a Jedi any more), Vader (obvious reasons), Yoda (only after their fight began), Luke (high level of force, connection to Vader), his own clones and his Son (who he hunted down and killed not realizing his son had produced an daughter named Rey). Qui-gon was not feared by palps, merely a concern if he remained in Anakins life. Obi-wan allowed Anakin too much freedom where Qui-gon would have reigned him in, we see this behavior in how he was treating young Obi wan in The Phantom Menance. I mean he literally was telling Obi-Wan to be mindful of the future but not at the cost of the present, a lesson Anakin should have been taught but obviously wasnt.
I wonder if Mother Talzin could come back? Like a ritual to revive her. I mean as such a strong and successful character, how can she be defeated so easily and don't have a back-up plan? Hopefully for a legends or sequels potential
@@watsupdoc yeaah exactly! Sidious couldn't even defeat Mother Talzin on his own. And needed help from Dooku and Grievous in the cosmic, before she died.
i love her buti think its the best to stay her dead. On the other hand i would really love to see and learn more about the potential of nightsister magic etc and what she was able to do. Since we all know what palpatine was able to do. About mother talzin weve got like no information
the thing sidious feared the most is two blue lightsabers. they truly are his kryptonite. This is why he never, ever, dueled anyone with a blue lightsaber, and when anakin pulls his on him in revenge of the sith, he is visibly afraid
Well Darth Vader is a Top Tiered Sith Lord, he had a good reason to be cautious. Mother Talzin is a Top tiered Nightsister witch and he has a good reason to be cautious as well
There was another he feared also. I believe Palpatine was very afraid of Ezra Bridger. So afraid in fact that he risked his portal into the World Between Worlds to create an alternative timeline to trick Ezra into. This was manifest in the final episode of Rebels. Ezra ultimately destroyed his portal, forcing the Emperor to deal with the fact he could not imprison people in alternate timelines.
I believe sidious would have just put him in an earlier timeline where eventually the same outcome would occur but by then it would be to late for Ezra and the emperor would have what he wants by then
Palpatine did not fear anyone, but did not want to get caught with his long plan to become the emperor. So the only person sensing anything wrong was QuiGonJim. He was the first to notify the council about the Disturbance in Force 😉 To summarize he was afraid getting caught too early, just every person does when their hand is in tje cookie jar.
Luke skywalker was the most natural gifted jedi who reached his potential therefore in my opinion thats who palpatine feared the most especially after trying to convert him to the dark side. Luke would not become what Sidious thought, that being his apprentice and thats why i believe Anakin stepped in not just to do with him being replaced but not wanting his son to be a pawn in Sidious's plan thank you goodnight
I don't much like the notion that Yoda was defeated. Yea, I'm A Yoda homer. But Palpatine definitely tried to run from Yoda multiple times. He eventually got far enough that he was able to flee. So. The most clever/sneaky Sith? Yeah, maybe. But I think Palpatine had alot of characters to fear , especially before Order 66.
I believe Sidious at one time may have also feared Dooku and Plagueis . After all Plagueis was his master and Dooku was the one Jedi that Plagueis thought might be able to defeat Palpatine and at one time considered replacing Sidious with Dooku as his apprentice should Sidious falter.
I would say that Grand Admiral Thrawn and Obi-Wan Kenobi were the greatest threats and potential fears of Emperor Palpatine's. Sheev brought Thrawn into the fold, because he knew being enemies with Thrawn and the Chiss would be incredibly dangerous to the Empire. And with Obi-Wan, Kenobi's continual, surprising survival and ability to defeat Vader/Anakin threw Palpatine's expectations off. Obi-Wan then trained Luke perfectly, from the beginning, as Qui-Gon intended to behave with Anakin. Obi-Wan screwed up SO much of Palpatine's plans, and Thrawn is far more intelligent than Sheev himself. I would even go so far as to say that - late in Palpatine's existence - that Snoke, Kylo Ren, and Rey were three people that Palpatine had to fear, because Snoke was doing just fine without Palpatine's presence, almost getting too powerful, before Kylo Ren decided to destroy the Supreme Leader.
I would have loved to seen a series of young Palpatine tbh. Being trained as a sith doing missions for his master and also his betrayal of his master. Sith code 101 = betraying your master. Weird that any of them takes on any students 😅 Guess Anakin was a true sith after all.
Bro, if Jar-Jar revealed evil machinations and suddenly started talking normal instead of with his offensive fake Caribbean / Wet Indies patois, used a deep Christopher Lee speaking voice and started saying and doing evil, Sith-like, things… 🤣😂🤣 (I can’t laugh though, because I love Empire Strikes Back so much) 🥺😢
He feared yoda because he was wise, strong in the force and skilled duellist, windu as he was deadly duellist and qui gon. Gon was so connected to the force that he could someday reveal palpatine's true identity
Qui Gon definitely somebody Palpy had at least a ton of caution for, but I don't think that windu or yoda ar jedi that he feared, as in his eyes they represent the hybris, arrogance and blindness the jedi built up over the last 1000 years, as they became to imvved with politics and detached from the rest of the world, literally ruling from an ivory tower
I think that in the end he fears most Anakin/Darth Vader. I think Anakin, Obi Wan and Qui-Gon were all really strong, but: Qui-Gon and Kenobi were... always Qui-Gon and Kenobi, they had their ways, their beliefs and ideas. You fear most the person that is not always the same, the person who is maybe TWO different person in one: Will this person now react this way or the other one?! Will he stay loyal? How do I interact with this person?! I hope I could explain in English... I meant a person who is not stable is hard to control and you never now what happens next...
I would submit that Sidious feared Obi Wan. If he fear Ginn, then he would fear his Padawan. We see this fear when he continually attempts to kill Obi at every opportunity. Aside from Anakin's attachment, Obi continued to best Vader which implies that Obi could best him.
Sidious also mildly feared Dooku. Dooku may not have been on the same level of Force power, but he was close enough to merit concern, had a unique suite of skills, and anyone that is such an incredible swordsman always has a punchers chance. Add to that Sidious' unsettled feelings after Dooku pulled a clean draw with Yoda, and then later even manages to out duel Yoda in a canon duel on Tatooine (Yoda Comic) when he disarmed and blasted Master Yoda, knocking him to the ground, that Sidious knew full well that Dooku was at least capable of holding his own for a while 1-on-1. That is why Sidious always took care to keep Dark Side secrets from him, and prevented Dooku from fully developing his acolytes like Ventress. Had Ventress continued to grow in power, she absolutely could have been the difference in a 2-on-1.
@@harkness9247 Yes it is. I would say it is not that hard to believe as we look over the totality of the duels Dooku has had with Yoda and Mace. As a Jedi Dooku stalemated Yoda in sparring (canon comic). Though "Dark Rendezvous" is not a canon novel, its story was developed with Lucas' input and approval, and on top of being considered the best Clone Wars era novel, it clearly showed that the difference between Dooku and Yoda in dueling was very, very small. Dooku was forced to retreat in that novel thanks to Anakin and Obi-Wan's approach, but did manage to wound Yoda and Yoda had the most difficult time pushing him back. The canon duel which Dooku bested Yoda happens after Dark Rendezvous and one can see that through three duels, Dooku improved each time. In the final duel it was clear that his gained experience was decisive as he finally discerned the weakness to Yoda's dueling style: Yoda needs to jump around a lot to compensate for his lack of reach and once in the air, he can be vulnerable to Force attack, not unlike how Dooku defeated Yaddle. Coupled with the canon duel with Mace that was clearly a stalemate favoring Dooku, I think it is clear that Dooku is demonstrably the better swordsman than Sidious and is so good with the saber that at any given time, he can beat either Yoda or Sidious despite their superiority in the Force.
Great video my friend, fascinating. I too believe that Palpatine feared Vader more than he would allow himself to show. What would be incredible, if a brilliant fan group could do it is a film of what would happen if Vader fought Palpatine. What a battle that would be. I disagree about one thing though, I think Vader was just as powerful as Palpatine, maybe different skill sets but he was just as powerful.
I truly think Vader could have beat Palpatine if he really wanted it. The one thing that kept Vader from ever trying to overthrow his master on his own was the manipulation he was put through over the course of 25 years that came directly from Palpatine, essentially whispering in his ear that he’d never be able to do so. Vader had the skill of the sword, the force, and physical strength at his grasp if he had wanted to take the mantle, if he believed he was indeed powerful enough to do so. I think Vader was truly that powerful, and could’ve overthrown his master. Not that it would’ve been an easy fight, and it could’ve gone either way. If you pay attention, there’s a VERY specific reason Palpatine always kept those royal guards around, and we see exactly that in the Vader comic run set between ESB and ROTJ. Palpatine knew he wasn’t guaranteed victory against Vader in a fair fight, one-on-one, so he had all of those precautions in place in case Vader’s fancy was tickled to end the old man. A lot of people like to say Vader was no longer as powerful as he was before he lost his limbs and needed life support. While this is partially true, Vader honed his abilities and created what can be deemed as a whole new lightsaber form unique to him to accommodate for his losses. He became an absolute tank and was second to none, and became an equal to Palpatine. He was treated as a lap dog out of fear, rather than truly being less powerful than his master. There’s a reason Snoke (Palpatine) drools over Kylo seeing the potential for “a new Vader”.
I agree these are some folks he would fear in the range of the most, and I liked the point of view, good vid as always..... but in the title, you said " only two he feared," and I thought, Only a Sith deals in absolutes. Also, when you practice the dark side, fear is your allie, and your fear will make you stronger. 😂
He had the strength advantage on Vader that goes without saying. But it would be a fight where one single mistake would give Anakin an opening he'd definitely abuse, just like his fight on Mustafar. That fight was always one accident away from having Anakin as the victor.
I personally think it would be more accurate to say Palpatine feared losing control over Vader, rather than Vader himself. Even then, while he might've feared it, he didn't see Vader turning as a likely possibility. He'd manipulated Anakin ever since he met him, molding him into the perfect weapon. After Anakin falling to the dark side, Palpatine turned from the carrot to the stick, beating him down in brutal displays of sadism and dominance, constantly reinforcing the idea that no matter what he did, Anakin would never be able to overthrow him. He might've feared Anakin's potential, but as soon as he fell, to Palpatine he was just a puppet - and as it turns out, that perspective led to his undying.
Vader was trying to recruit Luke in Empire Strikes Back to kill the emperor. Vader played the loyal pet but he was very willing to turn on him if the opportunity presented itself.
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Palpatine became too overconfident in the end. He should have been terrified of Luke. Anakin's Achilles heel was always his attachments to his close friends and family. If Anakin could be persuaded to become Darth Vader because of Padme, then Darth Vader could be persuaded to become Anakin again because of Luke. Palpatine should've known.
That’s because they didn’t know that attachment goes both ways which is some thing and I’m not saying personally Trea did this but Reven air of Jedi messed up on they were the ones who messed up on the whole attachment thing they didn’t want to believe it went both ways.
100% agree
You’re right. Luke is essentially the reason anakin turned to the dark side in the first place and his family dying, as far as he knew, was why he stayed palpatines apprentice for so long. If he found out about Luke early on he probably would’ve upgraded his suit and taken better care of himself and would’ve never become Vader
one more thing, Vader witnessed the vicious act of Sidious once in ROTS while he pushed him to kill Dooku. In ROTJ Sidious pushed Luke to kill him just like that.
@@applepie1911e Luke's mere existence was proof that Palpatine had lied to Vader all those years ago about the latter killing Padme on Mustafar. There definitely wasn't a baby on that platform near the ship. It was further evidence of the extent to which Palpatine had manipulated him into servitude. Vader had hated Palpatine for years leading up to the discovery of Luke, but the hatred intensified even more from that point on (hence the ruling together as father and son sentiment to Luke in ESB). Vader was just biding his time and waiting for the right moment to toss Palpatine overboard.
He also feared Qui-gon, because Palps knew that this particular Jedi had a particular set of skills aquired throughout the years which can be used to find him and kill him.
Well played
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At the start: I’ve already made a video on qui gon and this one includes some other people
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On top of that Palpatine knew that Qui-gon wasn’t above using theatricality and deception.
Have you ever heard the tradegy of the rise of skywalker
Have you ever heard the tradegy of the rise of skywalker
I thought not. It's no story the legends continuity would tell you.
Horrible things, have happened with this...
Unfortunately…
The tragedy of Darth Skywalker, the Rise?
I’m pretty confident he feared yoda as he stayed to fight mace but tried to flee against yoda multiple times even when he had clones coming soon
YES. exactly.
@@lordcerrousV people always act like he beat yoda with ease like dude it was a stale mate he barely survived and palps feared yoda until his death he feared him returning to assassinate him
@Cool Dude oh I 100% agree I’ve always believed that and there force battle yoda was winning I just don’t want to say that often cause sidious fans or dark side fans freak tf out
100% did not defeat Yoda.
@@jamesbutler3960 100% correct
No offense, but his fear of Luke is all over the dialogue of the films. "There is a GREAT DISTURBANCE in the Force. We have a new enemy...the young rebel who destroyed the Death Star. I have no doubt that this is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker. HE could DESTROY US. The son of Skywalker MUST NOT become a Jedi!!" Also, in the canon story "Disturbance" - Palpatine is actually legitimately freaked out when he discovers Luke in the force. Mother Talzin is an interesting pick though. She doesn't get talked about enough.
So there were basically AT LEAST 4 people that Palpatine truly feared and considered to be a genuine threat. He was also getting his ass whooped by Yoda and didn't really defeat him. Stuff like that really makes me question him being OP and one of the most powerful beings of all time. Always thought this was nothing but one gigantic retcon (never mind all the legendary characters from the past who would probably obliterate him or that Vader randomly picked him up and threw him like some ragdoll lol)
I mea,… they raised Nightsisters from the dead to fight for Dathomir. She made Savage a roided up beast. Talzin’s sith sorcery and alchemy was on 10.
I have had to reignite my respect for Talzin. She and her clan were such a pushover in the game "starwars galaxies NGE edition" (where i first learned of her) that I never really gave her the props she deserved. She was just part of the daily grind for me of boss's/enemies i would vanquish. So that's where i'm coming from.
@@1Adrix1 pretty sure an even fight isnt “ass whooped” lol. If it was cut into %s, yoda won 51% and sidious 49%. At the end though, palpatine still won regardless of how.
The reason he feared Luke is because it was the power of a skywalker that was untamed by him
To be honest, Yoda was the biggest threat to Palpatine. Not just in fighting skills and ways of the force but especially the purity and wisdom of Yoda. We have to remember how old in years Yoda was during these times and yes he lost his grip during his battle with Palpatine and he was still humble enough to admit he had failed. However Yoda who could take on Dooku at the same time as using the force to save Obi Wan and Annakin shows he was the most powerful of all the Jedi. His wisdom, humility and love for life and righteousness was the biggest threat to the all evil Emperor and beyond. The all wise Yoda won through in the end.
True, but even more he should have feared the only one who defeated him in a fair fight, Windu.
Uhhh no. Yoda knew he couldn't best Palpatine in battle, that is why he fled. And he had to stop fighting Dooku to save Obi-Wan and Anakin. That is why Dooku got away. We have seen Yoda in 2 lightsaber battles. Both of which he lost. Palpatine was right about one thing. His arrogance blinds him.
@@nicholasdorsett8467 no one won either of those lightsaber duels he was involved in. He and Palpatine both got blasted and he went flying further because he’s small.
@@dillonmurphy2394 It wasn’t really because he is small. He was just standing in the worse spot
@@nicholasdorsett8467 I would not say Yoda lost his duel to Dooku. Even though it was a draw where neither combatant scored a touch, Yoda clearly had the upper hand and that is part of the reason Dooku left, although Dooku was already trying to leave. But, it is noted that in their second canon duel in a canon comic on Tatooine, Yoda did lose the duel after Dooku disarmed him, and blasted him with Force Lightning. But, Yoda absolutely did disarm Sidious and in the final confrontation of Force powers, Yoda was the more powerful of the two, even if it cost him his footing. Yoda lost that duel with Sidious because the outcome was determined well before it happened. All Sidious had to do to win was not die.
Palpatine became too overconfident in the end, and even ignored warning from friends and enemies alike. Truth is, even Master Yoda warned him about Anakin being a dangerous person. Think back to their duel.
Palpatine to Yoda: "You will not stop me. Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us."
Yoda: "Faith in your apprentice, misplaced maybe, as is your faith in the dark side of the force."
Palpatine clearly forgot that warning, and he turned his back on Anakin to try and kill Luke. That when Sidious met his end. Having used Ankin's love for Padme, and his crippling fear of losing her to turn the young Jedi to the dark side, Sidious should have known that the roots of that fear were still inside Vader, and that if unleashed, could not be controlled by anyone. How could Palpatine really have been ignorant enough to believe he could kill Luke in front of Anakin and not trigger that instinctual fear to overtake Vader?
He definitely feared Yoda’s power, Qui-Gon’s independent thinking, Obi-Wan’s adherence to the Light Side, and Luke’s perseverance.
Mother T was such a boss. Gotta respect her drive for total control all though she fell short of her goal. Still by far one of the best villains that I found myself routing for often
YES!! I would have loved to see more of her and the night sisters
It can be argued that Qui-Gon Jin was perhaps the wisest of all the Jedi during the Republic area. Even more so than Yoda in terms of his connection with the living force and his uncanny belief in the will of the force guiding him. He found the chosen one and would have also discovered Sidious had he lived.
Maybe sometime in those 13 years...
After all the Sith know how to hide themselves very well. That and by the time the Jedi encountered the Sith they already built an empire. That means that although they were darksiders the Jedi didn't know to look for their distinguishable presence - that is either very loud or silent but very poluted by the dark side - in the Force
Well he made Obi wan to train Anakin.... Without Anakin, Sidious would be destroyed even in prequel.
And he figured out how to become a force ghost before any other Jedi did
He also gave better advice than Yoda. A lot of Yodas advice is very surface level, making no actual sense when you pick it apart.
@@pancakes8670 so tipical martial artist spiritual BS
Of course he'd fear Vader, regardless of how weakened he was by his injuries and the awful suit he had to wear, the prophecy stated he would destroy the Sith and bring balance the force, and Palpatine didn't want the force to be in balance, he wanted it to serve him as all Sith do, so he had to be on guard at all times. Just because Anakin had been temporarily consumed by Vader and physically weakened, it didn't mean that the prophecy would never come true,.
And come true it did. Anakin did kill Palpatine and bring balance to the force. Ignore the sequels, Palpatine died forever on the second death star.
Sidious didn't get as far as he did by underestimating potential threats. Even weakened physically and unbalanced in the mind, Vader is Vader.
He tried to replace him a bunch of times and it never worked. He had to know that Vader would betray him at some point.
@@bizmasterTheSlav Ignore the sequels, then you have Sidious come back in Legends. Funny how you forget that though
I mean the whole destroy the sith part was added on by yoda, the original prophecy was to bring balance to the force, cant do that by taking out the 3 dark side users, 1k jedi to 3 sith isnt balanced
I think it's only natural he feared Vader the most (Granted, Vader fanboy here). If not his remaining connection to the force, but his connection to him. He was the natural successor, a Sith Lord, heir apparent to the mantle of Sith Emperor/Master. Palpatine had to be on guard all the time around Vader and even with the Empire surrounding him, he still required countermeasures to Darth Vaders remaining strength and the danger it possessed.
Dang ur my fanboy thx bro
Not to mention that Palp never bothered to teach Vader much about the Sith, mainly because he was a threat already. No reason to give him yet more powerups.
This is not true, since the suit he gave Vader was susceptible to Force Lightning. Read more into it before commenting, brother
@Eternal Truths Clearly, huh. He possibly feared Vader the least. The suit he has is extremely susceptible to Force Lightning.
@Eternal Truths I don't agree with the "raw power" thing you are getting at, but I do agree Palpatine most likely feared Anakin's potential.
And even without the suit, Anakin was not functional, since he couldn't speak that well, had 2 legs gone, and MAJOR burns.
Sidious couldn't get out of that room fast enough when Yoda came to confront him. He did everything he could to create distance between he and Yoda. I think Yoda throwing his Sith Lighting back in his face solidified that he could never take Yoda in one on one combat.
Exactly bro he definitely feared yoda cuz if ur not afraid you wouldnt run. And not only that i wouldnt even say yoda lost if they stayed in the same room as the fight started in yoda wouldve folded him. Palpatine got lucky bcuz the distance that got created between them and bcuz yoda lost his grip. And it still ended in a stale mate in my opinion.
@@zackatkins5505 As yoda said when palpatine tried to flee "if so powerful you are, why leave?"
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@@Jtb1122ownvery very true
He also feared Qui Gon. Because Qui Gon would've found out who he actually was long before the jedi Council
With how dumb the Jedi council was, they wouldn’t have believed it honestly
Darth Maul killed him. Palatine did not fear Qui Gon.
@@Warlow1980 Maul only killed him due to his age. And Qui Gon was extremely strong with the force!
@@Warlow1980 Well, the guy who made the video disagrees - as do I, and many other people.
You don't seem to understand that not everything is about combat ability. Qui-Gon's ability to train Anakin and keep him from the Dark Side would have quite literally destroyed Sidious' plans (and thus the Sith).
@@americantrash593 I agree. Besides, Qui-Gon trusted the "will of the Force" and wasn't fighting for his life. He wasn't fighting with the desperation of someone who feared death.
After Sidious rise to absolute power he had only 2 concerns remaining that took all of his attention.
Becoming immortal and keeping Darth Vader in check.
So me?
In check lol? One force lightning blast does that
@@ericb8241 Doesn't help much on the death star
@@the_chosen_one_fr of course
@@ericb8241 we all saw how good that force lightning protected old palp of getting thrown down that shaft though...
It's good he feared Vader, since he ended up being the one who killed the bastard.
Honorable mention during the Republic era palpatine feared Padme Amidala she was able to sway thousands of people to her case about freedom peace and democracy to the point where he tried to assassinate her many times and she really was a thorn to a side when he found out Anakin told him of his feelings for Padme it was hard to try to get rid of her bc of how liked she is.
I think Padme was the only real political threat to him, making her more dangerous than many force users. Had she survived she would have no dount been able to rally many systems for the Rebellion.
@@phiphi334 She was also very important to Palpatine as Anakins fear of losing her was a key to turning him to the dark side.
He was essentially the one who put her on that throne. He wanted a young, naive and inexperienced leader for Naboo to sign the treaty for the trade federation. Once that whole ordeal failed he had no use for her and she became an annoyance to him politically. Once he discovered Anakin loved her he stopped trying to assassinate her and decided to use this knowledge to his advantage to swade him to the dark side. It's also theorized that Palpatine was the one who implanted those nightmares of Padme dying.
I would love to see a movie about the witches of Dathomir. Mother Talzin was a great character.
Nope thnks
fallen order does a pretty good job immersing you in dathomir
I'm definitely sure Sidious was scared of Yoda and Mace Windu. I just have that feeling he must have been because he waited until near order 66 to face them. When Windu was betrayed by Anakin that allowed Sidious to finally kill a Jedi very dangerous if somehow left alive. Yoda had to scare him until he learned he died is why he didn't want Vader to Look for Jedi high in the order. Palpatine's fear was so great he let them live to be Yoda and in a way, Yoda helped defeat Sidious by helping to Train Luke. In many ways, Yoda inspired Luke. I however think Palpatine wasn't scared of Kenobi enough because he is very key to his end. Qui Gon was Kenobi's master and I personally see a lot of Qui Gon in Kenobi.
you hit the nail on the head and note how Obi Wan liked to take on powerful force users together with a powerful force warrior. qui con and kenobi pioneered the techniques and strategies that brought down the empire
Sideous truly feared qui gon. If maul didn’t kill him and qui gon became Anakins master I guarantee he would have spared nothing to have him killed in the clone wars so he could manipulate anakin . Likely by grevious or dooku to prove his loyalty. I can tell you one thing if he heard what dooku said about sideous controlling the senate he would not take it lightly like the others did!
I think he would also have feared Qui Gon because of his ability to think outside the box, because thats really what made him this character in the first film. Obi Wan was also not always sticking to Jedi Code, but Qui Gon training Anakin would have given him a ability to think outside of the good and bad mentality of the Jedi, making it much harder to manipulate him
@@phiphi334 qui gon was a threat because he focused on the here and now vs the future. Anakin would have been more powerful, better disciplined and calmer under qui gon. Most importantly the padme factor. Obi wan knew what was going on but didn’t want to “rat” on his little brother. Qui gon, who would have been more of a father figure, would have demanded anakin tell the council but he would understand the rules needed to change and would assure anakin he would have his back at the hearing. It’s very unlikely they would have expelled anakin from the order making it much harder for palpatine to turn anakin.
@@leerogish7223 Qui Gon was the only Jedi that truly didnt deal in absolutes, understanding that rules needed to be challenged and updated with time. And while I still thing Obi Wan was also a father figure for Anakin, theres no denying that the brotherly approach obi wan had to his teachings failed to satisfy anakins desire to love padme in the open
@@phiphi334 No even though anakin said he is like a father that wasn’t the case. He was more of a friend and brother figure than a true master or father figure. Obi wan never commanded Anakins respect hence allowed himself to be seen as a less powerful big brother who mindlessly shoved the councils rules down his throat when anakin saw the same flaws with the jedi that qui gon and dooku saw.
Qui Gon + obi wan + young Anakin vs Darth Tyrannus
Haven't watched the video yet I'm just going to guess.
1. Qui gon jinn: I think this because he was one of if not the only Jedi who would stray away from the rules making himself a free thinker which in theory could disrupt his plans.
2. Mother talzen: this comes from the idea she could eclipse him in power and she'd be hard to control.
I think an honorable mention could be Jocasta Nu because she again in theory could train Jedi in the history where this comes into play imo is the bases of the rule of two. Bane studied the ancient sith and based the current siths ideology on the history of the Sith. If her character was developed better she could do that as well, and if I'm not wrong she hid away knowledge that Luke later found which taught of ancient Jedi
“One of the most talented Sith achemists of his day.”
I mean, considering the Rule of Two, there weren’t many contenders for this title…
He was also so scared of his master Darth Plagueis that he broke the Rule of Two and poisoned him instead of facing him in combat.
He knew it was the only way he could've truly defeated him. Maybe out dueled him in lightsaber combat but not in dark side abilities at the time.
Be to fair Palpatine outplayed his Master and his arrogance. It was flawless how he lulled Plageis into a flash sense of security and then sprung like the manipulative snake that he is. I loved how even after he died, Palpatine was still afraid of his masters power.
It was not poisoning.
He wore a partial lower face mask that he had too, account of assassin attempts that led to his face being sliced partly off. Which led to a very weakened state over time and when he laid down to sleep and sleep he was finally able too, is when Sidious attacked him with lightening to the face mask which stopped his ability to breath and with that killed him for he was unable to protect himself in a severely weakened state he was in and unable to breathe on top of it.
I would really, truly really enjoy a story/series/game with the night sisters, or maybe another as the main plot.
Yoda was never defeated by Palpatine, their duel ended in a draw. Yoda's "failure" was that he didn't win that fight, which he really needed to do.
Also, Palpatine did try to run from that duel in the beginning before Yoda stopped him. So he did fear Yoda too, at least for a short period of time.
absolutely. he knew yoda had so much knowledge and power that he would always be his rival.
One was forced to flee into exile, as he admitted having failed. The other held his ground and became the Emperor of the galaxy, reigning supreme because of this victory. ''Draw'' is definitely defeat in this situation.
@@Zovereign Sidious had support from his elite troops, Yoda was alone.
@@DynastyZwarrior90 Yes, however he won before they arrived.
@@Zovereign go watch the end of that fight again when the ball of force lightning exploded. Look at their expressions. Yoda was gaining control of the situation while Palpatine was loosing it. The duel ended because the explosion knocked them both off that podium. Neither were in a position to fight after that therefor it was a draw.
I love the dark side music you use when you talk about the dark side and the lighter music you use for the light side. Clever man!
Before watching the video, I have to say I think Qui-Gon will be on this list.
great choice
@@Brian-dh9lp because he had the potential to shape Ani into a grey/true jedi that would have ruined all of Palpatine's plans. Qui-gon was also one of the wisest jedi alive and had he not died he very well could have changed the jedi order and turned them away from their dogma.
@@Brian-dh9lp lol dude it’s a joke to, stupendous wave makes about 3 videos a month on who palpatine feared most… and it’s almost always Qui Gon in every video lmao
I've got to agree
@@Brian-dh9lp to be fair how many sith had the Jedi of that era fought? They thought the sith were a thing of the past so I get why they wouldn’t be prepared.
Dude the cut of this video is amazing this transitions between the fights are incredible great job 👏🏽
He feared the sequels
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I swear this guy could make a one minute video into a movie
It's funny how we have never seen darth sidious attack jarjarbinks not even a scene together. (There might of been a scene where there sitting together for like 5seconds, not even that)It's probably because he could sense jarjar was a sith lord. From the beginning, When even the jedi council couldn't, jarjar binks is a master at hiding his own identity. To the point that even lucas himself claimed that jarjar binks was the key to the old sith order.
I've always thought that the reason Palpatine was always on guard with Vader so much was because he was always scared that Vader would figure out that everything that had happened to him was because of Palpatine, and that he knew that Vader was stronger than he was but he had to control him. The dreams he had of Padme and his family dying, his dreams of his mother were all exploited and planted by Palpatine, full well knowing that Padme was going to die if Anakin turned to the dark side. Which is why Palpatine always is trying to control Vader as much as possible, and continues to and reinforces him to believe that Anakin is dead and it's only Vader until Luke comes and makes Vader realize he is Anakin after all.
He was only known as just a man to most of the galaxy a figure can't go around the galaxy without protection
Vader was NOT more powerful. IF he hadn't been cut to bits then yes - but not as he was in that suit.
In order for Vader to become the master he would've had to kill Sheeve. So The Senate for sure feared for when that day of Vader's betrayal again.
There were also the Force Wielders of Mortis. He referred to them as "The Mortis Gods".
Meaning that this show of reverence could also be that he feared them, as well.
love the editing in this video - very well constructed 😃👍
He feared Mace Windu after he whooped that ass....
I believe he also feared the return of Yoda to some degree and he also feared losing the service of Grand Admiral Thrawn as he believed thrawn would be an immensely powerful foe against the imperial military machine.
He didn't fear Yoda. He even stopped searching for him as he didn't consider him a threat.
I am sure he also feard Padam due to her able to stand up to the raise of the empire and was able to rally other groups to her side. I mean she started the rebellion and if left live would have brought the empire to its knees much faster then what happened.
Padam? You mean padme?
@@mrj4082 haha yes
I think it’s important to point out that for a brief moment Palpatine feared Maul and for great reason. In very short time Maul created a huge criminal organization known as the shadow collective, controlling hundreds of planets in the outer rim as he took over many already dominantly established criminal bands. Since Maul had been quickly constructing his own empire very irrelevant to the events of the Clone Wars, they were untouchable by the Republic laws and not an immediate threat to the separatists, meaning for the first and only time in the trilogy, he had to take matters into his own hands.
Maul was cut down and was forever weekened after being brought to life by the Nightsisters. He wasn't even a threat to Ashoka...
You can also see in the duel with Yoda, Palpatine realized he had met his match.
I read somewhere that he also feared 7th day Adventist.
He had standing orders if they came knocking that all the lights should be suddenly turned off on the death star.
Honestly surprised no one in this comment section is mentioning Mace? In terms of actual duelling Mace at the time of Revenge of the sith was probably the only one who could legit defeat him in a one on one
Sith philosophy is all about fear, it's about ambition gaining strength to increase your power, sure, but the more power you gain the more fear you gain, fear that you will lose your power, fear that someone else is ambitious. Inability to let go and the fear of death is why there are so many sith ghosts hanging around, they're still just freaking terrified.
Palpatine kept Vader loyal with fear, terrifying him into believing he could never stand a chance against Palpatine because of his own weakness. Vader then tried to cover up his perceived weakness by instilling fear in others, he made people think he was the Terminator. He was out there, he could not be bargained with, he could be reasoned with, he doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear and he will not stop until you're dead.
It gets pretty obvious with how as soon as Vader realizes Luke is a decent enough fighter and they could team up to take out the emperor, he tries to bait Luke into joining him. Vader's sith ambition was not gone, it was just suppressed by his fear of Palpatine.
I don't buy into the idea that Palps lived past Return of the Jedi. Idiocy brought him back at the end of the fake last three movies.
Palpatine vs Maul and Savage was amazing…
I think he feared Luke the most.
Palpatine (posing as Snoke) said this to Kylo in a Rise of Kylo Ren comic:
Snoke - “He has earned my respect, and my fear”
Kylo - “He is weak”
Snoke - “He is not weak, he is misguided. If I had your uncle on my side instead of you, the galaxy would’ve been mine a long time ago”
Even in the films it’s seemingly made clear. He refers to Luke as an enemy and identifies his power in the originals. And in the sequels, it seems pretty coincidental that he waits for Luke to die in order to carry out his plan.
Palpatine Also feared Master Yoda, Galen Marak, & if He ever Found Out That Luke & Leia was Born as The OffSpring of Anakin SkyWalker, Palpatine would have Feared Them as well Because Palpatine is Very Paranoid & He Would have Ordered an Execution of Order 66 on Luke & Leia by Dispatching The Sith Inquisitors to Hunt Them Down & Kill Them!
He was most fortunate I was not in his galaxy far, far away or he _would_ have feared me!
I think he also feared all of his men; Maul, Dooku, Grievous and even also Ventress. Also I agree with the commenters about Qui Gonn.
I think he feared Luke the most because he knew that was the one thing that could bring Vader back from the dark side, which he ultimately did.
The Son of Dathomir comic is so good and perfectly illustrates the relationship between Palpatine and Talzin and why he would be so afraid of her that he had to kill her. It’s a shame the Clone Wars never lasted long enough for us to get that arc in animation form.
Also I think, Realistically the only thing Sidious truly feared, was his own death and the inability to come back into the world of the living.
Much like Pleaguis!
Vader succeeded in the end, BUT as we know - it was only a temporary victory over Sidious.
His chosen weapon of power ⚡ also made him witness other close shaves with the FULL power of his own force lightning turned against him twice!
1st time - Episode 3 he survived
2nd time 30 + years later - Episode 9 - He finally drew the short straw and we bid him a final farewell! 😁
I don't count Rise of bullshit
Episode 9 isn't Canon
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At least not in my book
@@KeepPunchin76 that's what I'm saying
@@KeepPunchin76 Well If This Sidious was a clone in 9 Vader did defeat the real one. It's easy to make a clone think he is the real person they are the clone of. He was the empire puppet my guess.
that spin palps does is so cool they should bring back some prequel moves
Agreed. The spin shocked me at first viewing in the movie theatre, and I’ve def re-watched it here on the UA-cams multiple times 🙌
There is another that he feared…
“Darth Jar Jar Binks…”
The fact that he was as calm as he was when master yoda survived and pressed him in his office gives you an idea of the magnitude of his power. Sidious is no joke
there is one less and prob even the most underrated character in star wars history STARKILLER
Starkiller 100% would’ve killed Palpatine in their duel had none of his friends or allies been there. He severely wounded Darth Vader without getting scratched himself (a feat literally no one but him had) and was whooping Palpatine before he had to sacrifice himself.
Another being Palpatine feared was the Zillo Beast. When it looks at him through the window, you can see true fear in Palp’s face. He realized that this thing is way stronger than him and even worse was directly targeting him for his remarks earlier. No amount of lightsabers or Force Lightning could defeat the Zillo
Truthfully it’s
1. Yoda
2. Mother Talzin
3. Master Windu
4. Anakin
But Master Windu actually beat him 1 on 1 light saber and force power!
Plus I also believe Master Yoda got too complacent in his older age as to why Sidious was able to manipulate him.
But Sidious really just outsmarted them and got lucky at the right time! Sidious really took the cowardly route. He didn’t want to face anyone straight up…….but it worked for him though😒
True, Palp certainly wasn't a warrior type like Malgus. He dodged fights.
Nooooo their actually correct in this video anakin is either 1 or 2 u do know how powerful anakin would of gotten if he didn't have the suit and don't forget even yoda himself and darth sidious feared him why do u think darth sidious wanted anakin by his side even george lucas has said that anakin would be stronger than God's
Definitely Vader especially if Vitor sort out to clone himself for body parts and become is 100% self again
Palpatine underestimated Yoda. Force Users Palpatine feared: Ashoka (because of her connection to Vader and the force, not to mention he not being a Jedi any more), Vader (obvious reasons), Yoda (only after their fight began), Luke (high level of force, connection to Vader), his own clones and his Son (who he hunted down and killed not realizing his son had produced an daughter named Rey). Qui-gon was not feared by palps, merely a concern if he remained in Anakins life. Obi-wan allowed Anakin too much freedom where Qui-gon would have reigned him in, we see this behavior in how he was treating young Obi wan in The Phantom Menance. I mean he literally was telling Obi-Wan to be mindful of the future but not at the cost of the present, a lesson Anakin should have been taught but obviously wasnt.
I wonder if Mother Talzin could come back? Like a ritual to revive her. I mean as such a strong and successful character, how can she be defeated so easily and don't have a back-up plan? Hopefully for a legends or sequels potential
I hope so, she is my favourite character. She, maul, Savage were only one trying to defeat Sidious during clone wars.
@@watsupdoc yeaah exactly! Sidious couldn't even defeat Mother Talzin on his own. And needed help from Dooku and Grievous in the cosmic, before she died.
i love her buti think its the best to stay her dead.
On the other hand i would really love to see and learn more about the potential of nightsister magic etc and what she was able to do.
Since we all know what palpatine was able to do. About mother talzin weve got like no information
the thing sidious feared the most is two blue lightsabers. they truly are his kryptonite. This is why he never, ever, dueled anyone with a blue lightsaber, and when anakin pulls his on him in revenge of the sith, he is visibly afraid
I think Palps feared the DENTIST!
I think he feared Qui Gon the most considering he directly sent Maul to kill him.
He only feared qui gong because qui gong about to train anakin into a more stable minded Jedi and it would ruin palpatine plans.
Darth Binks struck terror in Palpatine’s heart, since Darth Binks was ten times as powerful with the Dark Side.
Well Darth Vader is a Top Tiered Sith Lord, he had a good reason to be cautious. Mother Talzin is a Top tiered Nightsister witch and he has a good reason to be cautious as well
Thanks for spoiling the entire video
He feared Mace Windu after he whooped that ass....
@@Jason-tz7ir Why are you in the comments then if you don’t wanna get spoiled?
@@Jason-tz7ir Don't then read comments. It is so simple.
4:15 - 4:23 that edit was insane
He feared the dentist
Gandrayda from metroid prime 3 corruption had similar powers. She was cool.
short "o" in coven, dude.
What about Fives? He was a serious threat if he was taken to a safe location.
I thought Palpy gave up on the whole rule of two and had always planned to rule forever by making himself immortal through one way or another...
He feared the Stupendous Wave...and Jar Jar.
There was another he feared also. I believe Palpatine was very afraid of Ezra Bridger. So afraid in fact that he risked his portal into the World Between Worlds to create an alternative timeline to trick Ezra into. This was manifest in the final episode of Rebels. Ezra ultimately destroyed his portal, forcing the Emperor to deal with the fact he could not imprison people in alternate timelines.
I believe sidious would have just put him in an earlier timeline where eventually the same outcome would occur but by then it would be to late for Ezra and the emperor would have what he wants by then
😂😂😂😂 ummm
Palpatine did not fear anyone, but did not want to get caught with his long plan to become the emperor. So the only person sensing anything wrong was QuiGonJim. He was the first to notify the council about the Disturbance in Force 😉
To summarize he was afraid getting caught too early, just every person does when their hand is in tje cookie jar.
Luke skywalker was the most natural gifted jedi who reached his potential therefore in my opinion thats who palpatine feared the most especially after trying to convert him to the dark side. Luke would not become what Sidious thought, that being his apprentice and thats why i believe Anakin stepped in not just to do with him being replaced but not wanting his son to be a pawn in Sidious's plan thank you goodnight
I don't much like the notion that Yoda was defeated. Yea, I'm A Yoda homer. But Palpatine definitely tried to run from Yoda multiple times. He eventually got far enough that he was able to flee. So. The most clever/sneaky Sith? Yeah, maybe. But I think Palpatine had alot of characters to fear , especially before Order 66.
He feared Yoda. Let’s not sit here n pretend he could of beaten Yoda cause Pap avoided Yoda at all costs before order 66.
I believe Sidious at one time may have also feared Dooku and Plagueis . After all Plagueis was his master and Dooku was the one Jedi that Plagueis thought might be able to defeat Palpatine and at one time considered replacing Sidious with Dooku as his apprentice should Sidious falter.
How can you say that ? I mean where did you learn that ? Perhaps Plaguis had no idea of who was Dooku
@@mrlipton4571 it’s in the Darth Plagueis novel.
I would say that Grand Admiral Thrawn and Obi-Wan Kenobi were the greatest threats and potential fears of Emperor Palpatine's. Sheev brought Thrawn into the fold, because he knew being enemies with Thrawn and the Chiss would be incredibly dangerous to the Empire. And with Obi-Wan, Kenobi's continual, surprising survival and ability to defeat Vader/Anakin threw Palpatine's expectations off. Obi-Wan then trained Luke perfectly, from the beginning, as Qui-Gon intended to behave with Anakin.
Obi-Wan screwed up SO much of Palpatine's plans, and Thrawn is far more intelligent than Sheev himself.
I would even go so far as to say that - late in Palpatine's existence - that Snoke, Kylo Ren, and Rey were three people that Palpatine had to fear, because Snoke was doing just fine without Palpatine's presence, almost getting too powerful, before Kylo Ren decided to destroy the Supreme Leader.
I would have loved to seen a series of young Palpatine tbh.
Being trained as a sith doing missions for his master and also his betrayal of his master.
Sith code 101 = betraying your master. Weird that any of them takes on any students 😅
Guess Anakin was a true sith after all.
then gained immortality as a force ghost after....ultimate middle finger to palpatine
Its funny cause vader was also scared of palpatine but palps was also scared od vader
that's why they never hung out much.....
We all have to remember that Darth JarJar is still possibly walking around during the whole original and sequel trilogies....
Bro, if Jar-Jar revealed evil machinations and suddenly started talking normal instead of with his offensive fake Caribbean / Wet Indies patois, used a deep Christopher Lee speaking voice and started saying and doing evil, Sith-like, things… 🤣😂🤣 (I can’t laugh though, because I love Empire Strikes Back so much) 🥺😢
He feared yoda because he was wise, strong in the force and skilled duellist, windu as he was deadly duellist and qui gon. Gon was so connected to the force that he could someday reveal palpatine's true identity
Qui Gon definitely somebody Palpy had at least a ton of caution for, but I don't think that windu or yoda ar jedi that he feared, as in his eyes they represent the hybris, arrogance and blindness the jedi built up over the last 1000 years, as they became to imvved with politics and detached from the rest of the world, literally ruling from an ivory tower
How can you say that about qui gon ?
@@stargazing6498 If you really think that Sidious feared Qui Gon more than Yoda, then more power to you but you're wrong
I think that in the end he fears most Anakin/Darth Vader. I think Anakin, Obi Wan and Qui-Gon were all really strong, but: Qui-Gon and Kenobi were... always Qui-Gon and Kenobi, they had their ways, their beliefs and ideas. You fear most the person that is not always the same, the person who is maybe TWO different person in one: Will this person now react this way or the other one?! Will he stay loyal? How do I interact with this person?! I hope I could explain in English... I meant a person who is not stable is hard to control and you never now what happens next...
Didn't palpatine fear jedi dooku, because dooku was one of the best duelists ever, plagueis also said dooku was a threat to them.
it's obi wan that never lost a saber duel..pure saber duel
I would submit that Sidious feared Obi Wan. If he fear Ginn, then he would fear his Padawan. We see this fear when he continually attempts to kill Obi at every opportunity. Aside from Anakin's attachment, Obi continued to best Vader which implies that Obi could best him.
Sidious also mildly feared Dooku. Dooku may not have been on the same level of Force power, but he was close enough to merit concern, had a unique suite of skills, and anyone that is such an incredible swordsman always has a punchers chance. Add to that Sidious' unsettled feelings after Dooku pulled a clean draw with Yoda, and then later even manages to out duel Yoda in a canon duel on Tatooine (Yoda Comic) when he disarmed and blasted Master Yoda, knocking him to the ground, that Sidious knew full well that Dooku was at least capable of holding his own for a while 1-on-1. That is why Sidious always took care to keep Dark Side secrets from him, and prevented Dooku from fully developing his acolytes like Ventress. Had Ventress continued to grow in power, she absolutely could have been the difference in a 2-on-1.
Is that Yoda comic actually canon, I find it hard to believe Yoda was disarmed by dooku
@@harkness9247 Yes it is. I would say it is not that hard to believe as we look over the totality of the duels Dooku has had with Yoda and Mace. As a Jedi Dooku stalemated Yoda in sparring (canon comic). Though "Dark Rendezvous" is not a canon novel, its story was developed with Lucas' input and approval, and on top of being considered the best Clone Wars era novel, it clearly showed that the difference between Dooku and Yoda in dueling was very, very small. Dooku was forced to retreat in that novel thanks to Anakin and Obi-Wan's approach, but did manage to wound Yoda and Yoda had the most difficult time pushing him back. The canon duel which Dooku bested Yoda happens after Dark Rendezvous and one can see that through three duels, Dooku improved each time. In the final duel it was clear that his gained experience was decisive as he finally discerned the weakness to Yoda's dueling style: Yoda needs to jump around a lot to compensate for his lack of reach and once in the air, he can be vulnerable to Force attack, not unlike how Dooku defeated Yaddle. Coupled with the canon duel with Mace that was clearly a stalemate favoring Dooku, I think it is clear that Dooku is demonstrably the better swordsman than Sidious and is so good with the saber that at any given time, he can beat either Yoda or Sidious despite their superiority in the Force.
Great video my friend, fascinating. I too believe that Palpatine feared Vader more than he would allow himself to show. What would be incredible, if a brilliant fan group could do it is a film of what would happen if Vader fought Palpatine. What a battle that would be. I disagree about one thing though, I think Vader was just as powerful as Palpatine, maybe different skill sets but he was just as powerful.
Qui-Gon had the greatest potential of ruining all his plans, because of his influence over Anakin.
He feared the most powerful sith user.... Darth JarJar
I really wish people would stop saying his suit was made susceptible to Force Lightning....it's total bullshit....
I truly think Vader could have beat Palpatine if he really wanted it. The one thing that kept Vader from ever trying to overthrow his master on his own was the manipulation he was put through over the course of 25 years that came directly from Palpatine, essentially whispering in his ear that he’d never be able to do so.
Vader had the skill of the sword, the force, and physical strength at his grasp if he had wanted to take the mantle, if he believed he was indeed powerful enough to do so. I think Vader was truly that powerful, and could’ve overthrown his master. Not that it would’ve been an easy fight, and it could’ve gone either way. If you pay attention, there’s a VERY specific reason Palpatine always kept those royal guards around, and we see exactly that in the Vader comic run set between ESB and ROTJ. Palpatine knew he wasn’t guaranteed victory against Vader in a fair fight, one-on-one, so he had all of those precautions in place in case Vader’s fancy was tickled to end the old man.
A lot of people like to say Vader was no longer as powerful as he was before he lost his limbs and needed life support. While this is partially true, Vader honed his abilities and created what can be deemed as a whole new lightsaber form unique to him to accommodate for his losses. He became an absolute tank and was second to none, and became an equal to Palpatine. He was treated as a lap dog out of fear, rather than truly being less powerful than his master. There’s a reason Snoke (Palpatine) drools over Kylo seeing the potential for “a new Vader”.
Wtf, what about Jar Jar?
He also trembles and gets teary 🥺 wen he’s sees Chuck Norris!!
He fears DARTH JAR JAR the most
These "only entity sidious pood himself over" videos pop up in my recommendations everyday twice it seems.
I agree these are some folks he would fear in the range of the most, and I liked the point of view, good vid as always..... but in the title, you said " only two he feared," and I thought, Only a Sith deals in absolutes. Also, when you practice the dark side, fear is your allie, and your fear will make you stronger. 😂
He had the strength advantage on Vader that goes without saying. But it would be a fight where one single mistake would give Anakin an opening he'd definitely abuse, just like his fight on Mustafar. That fight was always one accident away from having Anakin as the victor.
my favorite line in ALL of star wars
" you think the fear you sense is mine? Fool"
Also the rule of two was established by Darth Revan and brought back by Darth Bane after studying Revan's Holocron.
I personally think it would be more accurate to say Palpatine feared losing control over Vader, rather than Vader himself. Even then, while he might've feared it, he didn't see Vader turning as a likely possibility.
He'd manipulated Anakin ever since he met him, molding him into the perfect weapon. After Anakin falling to the dark side, Palpatine turned from the carrot to the stick, beating him down in brutal displays of sadism and dominance, constantly reinforcing the idea that no matter what he did, Anakin would never be able to overthrow him. He might've feared Anakin's potential, but as soon as he fell, to Palpatine he was just a puppet - and as it turns out, that perspective led to his undying.
Vader was trying to recruit Luke in Empire Strikes Back to kill the emperor. Vader played the loyal pet but he was very willing to turn on him if the opportunity presented itself.