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Turkish Life in Germany: How it started and how it's going | DW Stories
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
- The recruitment agreement between Germany and Turkey in 1961 had far-reaching consequences for German society. At that time, the so-called guest workers came to work temporarily in Germany. But many of them stayed for good - and started families here. Three generations discuss their feelings about Germany and what home is for them.
00:00 Intro
01:11 Recruitment in the 1960s
02:43 Should I stay or should I go?
03:50 Where is home?
05:55 Acceptance and discrimination
07:47 Without turkish influence, Germany would be?
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I don't want to generalize them, but vast amount of people in germany with Turkish roots are content with the economic regression and devalued currency in Turkey and big fan of Erdoğan as they are able to buy whatever they want with Euro that is 10 times stronger than the Turkish Lira when they come to Turkey.
True. A lot of them are AKP supporters.
🙄🙄🙄🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣
exactly. They all vote for erdogan. The depreciation of the Turkish lira is good for them. They come here every summer and spend money, take a vacation, meet their needs. They don't think about their nation at all. so-called patriots🤦♀️.
When I was studying in Germany ,I saw Turkish people hate Germany and used to say all good things about turkey and Erdogan.
But when I asked them will they move back they used to give weird reasons.
Also many openly said they want Turkish economy to weaken as it helps them to get cheaper tours.
This is just my observation nothing against any community
I thought majority of turkey citizens love erdogan atleast what media from Turkey shows like in TRT world
Is there any opposition coalition in future would get power ???
I found it very interesting how the first generation workers from Turkey in Germany had a more welcoming and an overall different experience, especially in the sixties, in contrast to the more recent generations. It is interesting since here in America the same can’t be said when it comes to social and political agreements. The newer generations share a similar struggle because of expectations and prejudices such as those that the third-generation son explained. I also relate to rooting for the country you spent the entirety of your life in and also rooting for the country of my family and origins.
Because the immigration has got out of hand. The Turks who arrived first were never supposed to stay there permanently, instead they all brought over their families.
My German-born cousins say they feel both German and Turkish. I can feel that they have adopted the country they were born and raised in, when we talk about a historical or cultural subject. They love the country they live in and are proud of their ethnic and national identity.
Will you do a piece on Italian emigrants to Germany too? They are a lot and have a lot of stories to tell.
Stop being jealous lmao
@@canonaler jealous of what?
Also in belgium
@@canonaler There's nothing to be jealous of
Wow, it was so interesting to hear about how 1st generation workers actually felt like Germany was their home, and that they felt very well accepted. For the second-generation son, he moved back to Turkey because he felt like he always have a hard time being accepted in Germany because he had difficulty finding a job. The third-generation son also felt welcomed in Germany, at least more so than his father. He still experienced prejudice in school, but much less than his father. Very cool to learn about the different Turkish-German experiences.
Turks have high amount of national pride, but they're also dynamic and willing to adapt changes much easier than your average middle eastern folk. Which usually makes them the oddshot in such situations.
I found it so interesting how at the beginning of the video Gulsen Demirbilek states that she "wanted to buy a car and get straight home" but little did she know what was coming next. It just goes to show how out of the loop the government kept everyone. It was very wholesome to hear the perspective of a third-generation guest worker from Turkey and the gratitude he showed towards his parents/grandparents fighting to give him a better life than they had. It is sad to see that the people that fought hard for his education will never get to have that same experience.
I love how they all had different definitions of what home is to them, which made all of their answers different. But also I found it interesting that each generation had a different answer for feeling welcome to Germany. I wonder why these answers differ? Was it because as time went by and the more Turkish people settled the attitude of the "ethnic" Germans changed toward the guest workers, or if they all have a different definition of what being welcome is?
This is a beautiful, secular and well integrated family . What I sense is that the first generation is more grateful to Germany than the other two. Who knows why
let's see.... because they always had to be "grateful" while being treated like dirt, otherwise they would've been sent back and couldn't provide for their families anymore. Not being well versed in the German language attributed to it A LOT. The "other two generations" grew up here and learnt about their rights and how to speak up. :) Don't try to package your BS views on the Turkish community as "nostolgia" about older generations.
@@hakanozaslan9571 if Germany treated them as turks treat Syrians..there wouldn't be a single turk in Germany...
Not every war is worth fighting, especially if it's to the benefit of some dictators
@@xexes3975 turks went there to work, with an agreement. They werent like 7-9 million people.
They are a beautiful, secular and well integrated family because they are Alevis. A very tolerant and secular religious minority in Turkey which makes up around 15% of the population; a group I am very lucky and very proud to be a member of.
I found this video extremely educational and interesting! I loved to see the 3 generations of Turkish immigrants, and how they feel about living in Germany. The 1st generation workers felt as if Germany was now their home since they have lived there now for over 60 years, whilst their son felt that Turkey was his true home. The grandson loves living in Germany, and believes it is his home. I want to know more about how the grandparents transitioned into life in Germany, and was if a difficult decision to choose raising their children there and not in Turkey. I am a immigrant from Bulgaria, and moved to the US at just 1 year old. To my mother she is starting to feel that America is her new home, however for me I will always feel like Bulgaria is my true home and I place I want to live when I grow older. I have been to Germany several times in the past when traveling to Bulgaria, and it seems like a beautiful place to want to integrate your family into, I have many friends and family of my own that have lived in Germany in that past.
This is an interview that want to promote the turkish nationalism and shovinism as something good, cause that is the message from it.
Wow, this video was extremely eye-opening and says a lot about the strength of Turkish culture. The perspective of these first generation Turkish workers gives a lot of insight on how they lived their lives during that time period. It's hard to imagine where Germany would be today without Turkey's presence and the influence of guest workers. I found it interesting how most of the people being interviewed described Germany as being their "home" even though it wasn't their original birthplace. I wonder why Turkish people still get treated differently in the country today. Turkey is a large part of Germany's success, and the country should be more appreciative.
Very interesting short. Something kinda missed is the fact that for decades Turks and their kids were discouraged from staying and being German citizens (always referred to legally as Guest Workers, even later generations, until recently). The same people who decry Turks for not being German enough were for decades trying to prevent them from being so in the hopes they'd leave Germany
Which is normal.
@A G
Not true
All men were allowed to bring over their wives and children
The children went to school and the wives could get a job if they wanted to
Single men even got married with German women back in the 1960's
People were encouraged to move with their families to European countries to work and to live there
Some of those people even opened up their own business or shops
So you are clearly wrong and don't know what you are talking about
@@freddyvorace9990 Something is normal if it's accepted by most people, not just one political party or just one group.
@@freddyvorace9990 native americans still hoping europeans will leave one day, yeah
@@sysprogrammer1 then, why did they vote for Biden ?
I find it very interesting how much the first generation of workers cared for their children and future descendants and how much the third generation respects the earlier generations for moving to Germany. I also find it interesting how the first generation seemed to value Germany as their home because it gave them an opportunity to succeed while the second generation worker viewed Turkey as his home because of where his family is from. What each person and generation values as home seems to vary but all of the generations of immigrants still feel torn between their culture decades later.
It is so interesting to see how the first generation workers actually feel. The first generation workers had more of a welcoming experience, and the second generation workers had a more tough experience. I thought that it would be the opposite because usually the more past you go into life, the harder it was for people to fit in. I want to know what caused this specific contrast between both generations to feel this way. Personally for me, I know that my first generation grandparents had a harder time fitting in, rather than my second generation parents.
I find it interesting how everyone has a different meaning of “home”, as some described it as where you work and live, and others defined it as wherever you feel comfortable. I have to agree that home is wherever you feel comfortable, even if you live or work in another country. I also find it interesting that the workers stay in Germany even after they have stopped working. I would like to learn more about the differences in education, living and working between Germany and Turkey that would keep Turkish workers in Germany.
Politics, politics, i tried several times to get a chance, but i couldnt get it. Bcoz im from another country. Its just huge political plays
Is it true that Erdogan is popular to Turkish population in Germany, or europe in general??
Turkish people who lives in Germany loves erdogan because of the economy management.
If they have 1000 euro, it becames 10.000 liras. Eventually, they can go to turkey for a cheap vacation.
I think it's more pride in their Turkish roots - doesn't matter who's leading the country...
@@Lunar_Alexus That's not true. Turks here want Turkey to do well, and they believe Erdoğan is helping Turkey forward. Since most of them are on the more religious side, their bias leans in favor of everything Erdoğan does. Turks in Europe hail from traditional villages, who are Erdoğan's target voters.
More than %60 of Turkish population living in Germany voted for Erdogan in last general elections. While most of them voting for Greens and Linke in Germany.
It is a hard topic, but If I have to explain it in short, most of them are belonging to working class the first generation of guest workers. To be able to look after family most of them were doing multiple jobs in hard terms, and was being discriminated. ( if interested you can check documentation or the book "Ganz Unten" from Gunter Wallraff) which slowed their adaptation to country. And Erdogan and many populist leaders are good at fueling these feelings and manipulating them into become more nationalist. With the same reason, they are voting for left parties here, is because they seem to care for minorities. Same story across Europe. But when you look Turkish people who are living abroad in other countries like USA or Canada for example Erdogan is not getting more than 30% of votes. Because people living there mostly not being discriminated and does not look for nationalist feelings to feel "belonging" somewhere. I hope this explains some.
Yeah it is a real problem I know enough turks wich are very passionate about him and have never realy lived in turkey
I found it very interesting that the first and third generation considered themselves at home in Germany. Only the second generation said in the interview that Turkey was his home. I believe this must be the result of a couple things. The first generation was invited to Germany to work, while the second generation was just there by default of coming there with his parents. The second generation gentleman probably experienced a greater deal of discrimination. The latter generation member has grown up as a member of an advancing German society with less discrimination. I would be curious to know if either generation regrets the German move.
Smart , brave and hardworking people which deserve all the best in their lives. Long live Turkey
So don't come here please go to Turkey
Turks take alot of welfare in Germany
Smart?
Bullsh1t. Many of us Europeans tend to forget that the Ottoman Empire tried to push into Europe and still in these days a half of Cyprus is still occupied by Turks. ZERO sympathy for them.
😂@@ashokathegreat4534
It is very emotional and inspiring to hear the stories of Turkish guest workers and their descendants. I can see firsthand from these stories why it was so imperative for the Turkish to establish themselves in Germany and provide greater opportunities for their children and grandchildren. It is pretty interesting to hear about how accepting these individuals were of Germany and how it is now considered home for them because of their family. I do not have any known connections to Germany or immigration to Germany, however, I empathize with the first-generation Turkish worker's bravery.
It was cool that the Turkish community in Germany was sharing their experiences. Through the sources that I have read, it seemed like the racism toward the Turkish community was more heavily influenced in the text. I did not know that the first wave of immigrants was viewed positively because of the booming economy. I did know there is currently a bad view of the Turkish community, but I want to know how much. The older couple wanted to live where their children lived and had lived in Germany so much that they were immersed in German culture. I want to know how many Turkish Germans would rather live in Turkey.
I Found it very interesting how the welcoming feeling slowly went declining through the Generations. I feel like here in the U.S it is quite similar but now its more accepted then before. so you could say here in the U.S it was the opposite of Germany, not welcomed initially but now accepted. I thinks its amazing what parents were welling to do for their children. Modern day this is happening all over the world , glad this is getting its recognition and awareness it deserves. It's amazing how much people can tolerate and how they were welling to put up with it all for a greater future and the vision they had that kept them pushing.
I found this video very interesting! I found it fascinating to compare the three different generations of the turkish immigrants. They all had very different opinions on living in Germany at the time. The first generation workers felt at home in hermany because they had been there for 63 years and basically knew nothing else or how life was before Germany. The second generation workers considered Turkey to be their actual home. An example of this is how the son loved living in Turkey because he considered it to be his home.Whereas the grandson loved Germany and considered that his home. I would like to know more about how different generations feel about the transition to Germany and if they preferred their like in turkey over Germany due to the workforce or family life?
Do we have any statistics about intermarriages between ethnic Turks and Germans? I heard that Turks mostly choose their spouses from their community.
I think I remember reading the same thing
It's really the same in every ethnic group, including Germans; people generally marry the people they're around the most, and that typically means the same ethnic group and class
In the Netherlands most Turks marry other Turks. This is especially true for Turkish girls.
It's not too surprising. I also prefer to marry a Turk. I wouldn't not marry a Dutch girl or something if I fell in love with one. But I'd prefer a Turk because it's easier and we understand our culture on a deeper level.
Usually when a Turkish girls marries a Dutch or non Turkish guy the guy won't take any interest in Turkish culture. But with Turkish guys dating non Turkish girls the girls usually try very hard to learn about the culture etc
@@godofchaoskhorne5043 I think in marriage diversity is a good thing both Side can improve their emphaty and learn New things
Germans do not like to mingle around with Turks. Turkish people, in general, do not have a good reputation in Western Europe.
I love how the first generation immigrants said they had a wonderful experience and the 2nd & 3rd generation complain about having to work harder or blaming a missed job opportunity on being Turkish. People that know real oppression almost never claim they are victims
The first generation didn't run from oppression they just needed work. They also came and had jobs ready for them in a booming economy. The newer generations are just regular German citizens only they have a lot less opportunities because of their ethnicity / name etc.
A few years back I've did a small experiment with a class mate of mine. Both sent our CVs to the same companies for an internship. We sent them to 12 companies. I only got 3 replies 2 of them telling me they didn't need anyone / the position was filled. Only one invited me while my friend got 10 invites including from the two companies that claimed the position was filled. Despite the fact that my CV was a lot more impressive. This was in the Netherlands but I imagine its the same in Germany.
It's vile to pretend there isn't any discrimination or insinuate younger Turks shouldn't have a right to complain about it.
And it being a lot harder to get a job or internship isn't even a drop in the bucket with how much discrimination and racism you experience as a Turk in Europe esp if you live in a mroe rural area.
@@godofchaoskhorne5043 As a 1st generation in Germany, I have to agree with the OP. Not denying there is no racism. It just doesn't have a huge impact in my life. I guess it all comes down to expectation. For me personally, simply surviving in a foreign country is already a huge success that makes me happy and grateful (No, I had no jobs ready for me when I came here. Had to start from zero). Still, sorry about your bad experience
@@godofchaoskhorne5043 Maybe your friend was just better? Unless the CV's were literally 1:1, I very much doubt this subjective view on what employers do or don't do because of perceived discrimination.
@@KonsaiAsTai dude thats wishfull thinking. There has been many studies on that topic. İf you are a minority people will care less about your applications compared to a member of majority ethnicity. İts common knowledge at this point
What do you mean by 'real oppression'?!!! This is such an uninformed and bias comment. 1st generation immigrate due to economic reasons not oppression. My grandfather is from Istanbul and worked in Germany for a year and came back because life quality wasn't great in germany and he was better off as a skilled worker in Istanbul. The ones who stayed are usually because they were coming from remote villages where the economic prospects and life quality was not great. 2nd and 3rd generation is discriminated both in Germany and in Turkey.
Turkish immigrants brought delicious well seasoned food!
And you Germans brought your foods to America and gave us the hamburger and the hot dog!
@@powasjington4262 Don't forget the Budweiser to wash it all down!
What ? I thought hamburger is the most usa thing you‘ll get
@@lionhagenmiller4776 ITS self-explanatory. Guten Apatit..
I am sorry but this is not starting or dealing with the historical relationship between Germany and the ottoman Empire. Do better research.
Strangely not much German commenters here...
the first generation was welcomed because they were very much needed and people new that. as the need for new guest workers declined they were less welcomed by Germans which is expected. it's like having a horse at home when you already have a car now. in the past horses were needed and looked after. their services, contrubutions were appreciated by humans. but now having motor vehicles, a horse for a typical German household will be nothing but a pain in the back.
Thank you for making this story and the video! It's very emotional to many people. I see lots of positive sides to the effect of the immigrants, although there were some hiccups in the process. They are talking about "heimat" (home) a lot and it is true that we feel wherever we are most comfortable, where our family and loved ones live, where we feel secure and can h enjoy life, that is our home. Again, love this story. Big cheers!
We have a lot of Turkish people in NL too, the overwelming part of the Dutch are greatful for their amazing food, and all the essential jobs they help to fill. So thank you Turks!
Sorry for out of the topic, but I’m curious about Indonesians in NL? Could they blend and immerse with the locals? And how the locals think about Indonesian?
@@guacamolebelacan8094 there are already a lot Indonesians in NL because it is a former Dutch colony. Most are mixed already into the population, so its hard to say how many people here have Indonesians roots, some research state that about 5% of the populaition has Indonesian DNA mixed in. Regardless, at the moment there are over 200.000 first generation Indonesians here. They are considered to just be part of the Dutch. You can also tell by the huge amount of Indonesian food you can buy at any local grocery store. For example; nasi goreng, rendang, babi pangang, bakso, soto, etc.
@@Roman500 wow you are even familiar with those Indonesian foods. Haha. Thanks for the information by the way. Nice information.
I live in NL and nothing you say is true. Turks here are very aggressive and most Dutch rightfully so don't like them. Stop lying.
@@MasterMode2074 haha okay we have a few racists here like you. But they are a minority.
Interesting documentary from Deutsche Welle. Difficult decision to leave the country to go to another country, different language, customs and religion. Greetings from Medellín. Colombia. 🇨🇴
As a point of academic knowledge; I know that there is a substantial Turkish Community in Germany; NOT that any of us are particularly wealthy these days.....but as an appeal to our broad humanity; I hope the Turkish and Syrian Community in Western Countries would gather together and help out with the Earthquake we have Just had on the 05 and 06th Feb. 2023.
The wider international Community should also; get involved....contrary to what they say about the Chinese Uyghur; and Chinese links with Turkey.....China has had close links with Turkey for Hundreds of years....And I think this is an ideal time for Nationals in the Near-East and Far-East to help out in this tremendous natural disaster....
If nothing else China has the man-power and many pairs-of-hands! ♥
I was also invited by Germany, but I refused to go. Europe received a lot of immigration. I think racism will increase because of this.
There has been a shift of paradigm in local's mind from heartfelt welcome attitude during grandparents generation and the next. It is not for no reason that the 2nd generation express his many experiences of being treated different than he expected to be. Such as applying for a position of higher stature. This i also felt after living in Germany from 2004 to 2021.
That's a typical hassle of second generation at any developed countries except in UK and in the USA.
@@elisabettai2053 depends on which State you live in and what region of the UK. To generalise a whole population fails to focus on major issues in those countries.
Those who blame Turkish people for not integrating into German culture should look for the answer in German politics. So far it's been the subconscious discrimination on the minds of many Germans and not bringing the legal structure for equality for everyone in Germany to blame for why Turks can't still feel fully at home there even in the 4th generation.
Same All over Europe.
That's one part. The other part comes from the German Turks.
Those who are permanently attached to Turkey and simply do not want to identify with Germany have only themselves to blame. With some it is called until today still "I would die for my country (Turkey)".
@@mimimi8238 Same affiliation you would find all over the World. Stop talking Shysey.
@@mimimi8238 That's quite normal with expatriate s All over the World. Please travel Observe and learn . 🍓
@@hfur7758 No it's not. and those aren't expatriates, he's talking about german-turks in their 3rd or 4th generation. expatriates are people living in a country for a short time with a plan to return to their original country. 3rd or 4th generation means ur family has been there for 50-80 years. You were born there, ur parents were born there and ur grandparents were born there.
Almanyada yabanci Turkiyede Alamanci !
Ama her iki yerde de zengin 🥴☺️
Almanlar sizi sürekli BMW'ye biniyorlar diye tanımlıyor.
@@ayhancan7169 ben Almanyada yasamiyorum.. Kendi ulkemde Lamborgini kullaniyorum !
I find it interesting how in the first generation workers would feel compared to the third generation of workers. The first generation had a more of a welcoming experience compared to the second generation. It's intriguing since then in America the same ca n’t be said when it comes to social and political agreements. The newer generations partake in an analogous struggle because of prospects and prejudices similar to those that the third- generation son explained. I also relate to lodging for the country you spent the wholeness of your life in and also lodging for the country of my family and origins.
This video was very interesting, one of the most interesting things about this video is the sacrifices the parents were willing to make for their children. Many of the workers that immigrated from Turkey to Germany did it with their children's lives in their minds, in Germany, they could get educated and attempt to make a better future for themselves. I also found it interesting how each person's choice of what "home" is. In the video both the first and third-generation Turkish immigrants stated that Germany is their home while the second generation said while he likes Germany, Turkey will forever be his home. I was also intrigued that at first the Turkish workers were welcomed, however, over time they began facing issues and racism. The first-generation immigrants talked about how they were invited over to their boss's household and were very welcomes within German society as they were assisting with the development of the nation, however, the third-generation immigrant stated there was racism he faced especially in school.
2:05 beautiful eyes
He got it from mongols
lol no .
why did you choose to ignore so much of the bad sides of what's usually called "failed integration" of turkish and other immigrants in germany? like how much they've ended up in semi-segregated residential block neighbourhoods that are widely referred to, in remarkable ignorance of history, as "ghettos"?
I'm pretty sure this video is more about acknowledging Turks as part of German society, than it is about the nuances revolving their participation.
@@PawSmalls Sounds a lot like cherry-picking to me.
Do not expect more from woke media.
Paw Small it seems like a whitewash. in regards to how they weretreated by the german state and german society, I mean.
It's coz of poverty
Funny::: for the 1st generation home = were you work and live.
For the 2nd generation home = were you feel most comfortable
It has nothing to do about generation it changes to person to person and even so what do u mean by your comment its non sense.
nice article
Love the Turkish people, the German people their culture ethics hardworking and heritage !
I hope they assimilate and the Turks and the German people keep harmony with each other as they have been friends for a long time. Turks and Germans make excellent workers and are disciplined people from my observation.
Germans and Turks are the most successful proud people as well and have to assimilate their immigrants as we are doing in the USA.
It is natural to have tribalism in all society but it is superpower to overcome to include all sorts of participation in the greater society.
That is what makes great people.
Best regards.
No people of any country should be assimilated no matter what. Yes,you do need to adapt and respect the culture and other stuff of where you live, but you dont need to forget your own either.
the way they treat Syrian here in turkiye initially they were very welcome but now they are hatted
I find it very interesting how one event of letting guest workers from Turkey had so much effect on a country in ethnicity and work. I think it's amazing how many Turkish people were given a second chance and found a new life in Germany. I wonder why the second generation of Turkish immigrants face more discrimination. Also why is it expected that they must work hard for their livelihood. I feel that the people with Turkish roots have earned and made Germany into what it is now. Without the guest workers many ethnic Germans would not be as prosperous, so I think it's only right for everyone to work equally.
There are a lot of Turks in Germany. The Germans need to be more attentive to the fact that they are repeating the mistake of the Greeks when they sheltered these rootless nomads in their country.
Germany must relay on their labourers. If they invite outside people, they will create very much serious problem . Take the examples of france, Briton, Swindon
Germany and Turkey(Ottoman empire) were allied in ww1.
This was a great video to watch to get different views on the same point in one family. As time goes on, I believe the experience we go through and hardships we endure shape our reality and feelings. The first generation of guest workers in Germany consider Germany home, because they truly understand the opportunity that was blessed to them to be constant providers for their family. The generations follow would have to work twice as hard though just to be seen as the same and could still not get a job they are more than equipped for. Are Germans hesitant about Turkish descendants in fear that their own lineage may not be as equipped?
5:21 that to much . The reality is unfortunately different.
We can see who will get the job or the apartment, you Herr Yilmaztürk or Herr Müller ...Herr Heidenreich ... 😁
I remember when I was working one summer in Germany, World cup has been played. Germany was playing against South Korea. Most of my my turkish coleagues were supporting Korea, all of them borned in Germany. Germany gave them everything but I had a feeling that they hate the country but love money. So much about integration.
They must have a reason nothing happens without a reason. If the system discriminate them what do you expect? And most of the third generation are born here and studied here..if they feel unwelcomed ofcourse they will hate too
@@jokhakassim4241 i have half of my family moved from Croatia to Germany during communism and after war. None of them feel unwelcomed. Same with most of eastern europeans,africans, latinos. Why just turkish feel that way? Maybe it is their fault in the end🤔
And btw, why would somone live in a country that discriminates him or her? I would not 🤷♂️
@@balporsugu2.0 And Germany is not? Tf
Historically, Turkey and Korea have a very close relationship (e.g. fighting together against the communists in the Korean war). And I guess it was kinda refreshing to see an underdog beating a Weltmeister.
@@luxploded oh, yeah, i get it. Some war 70 years ago is a reason to support a country you dont know anything about when playing against the country were you were born, raised up, where your family is,friends,, where you work and gave you a chance to have a decent life. Your logic is amazing. I just hope you are sarcastic.
Yeah, we grew up with sayings like: "Islam, a danger for Germany". It is normal, if uneducated people saying those things. But it was work of intellectuals, it was headlines on newspapers, on TV. Like Hannah Arendt said: the intellectual people was the problem. She was right
Those uneducated are more smart and educated than highest intellectuals in turkey
Colonialism turkish in europe since ottoman and now era 🤔
Due to Federal due of express
There's Also A Turkish Minority In Greece (Western Thrace) But The Turks Of Western Thrace Don't Speak Greek As Fluently As The Turks Of Germany Speak German. The Turks Of Germany Speak German So Fluently That Someone Would Consider Them Less As Turks And More As Germans.
Do Not Type Like This.
You Are Not Suppose To Capitalize The First Letter Of EVERY Word!
@@spaghettiisyummy.3623 😂
Germany existed for a centuries without Turkish influence or in "a boring way" as they say and made a large contribution to world's politics, culture, sсience and technology.
Why do you generalizing everything!!
Chill bruh,they are from another culture from another part of the world,you can't blame someone just because of their point of view about "whether something is boring or not"?!
@@saraa338 I don't blame anyone. I just express my point of view.
Turks never contributed to science, technology......go read their history. They were plundering nomads, and people in Turkey now are a mix of those nomads with eastern european peoples like Bulgarians
I found it very interesting to see the different perspectives of people and what it meant for them to be at home somewhere. “Home is where you feel the most comfortable” vs “Home is where you live and work”. I thought this different perspective was a large part of why people may feel at home in Germany versus in Turkey. I thought it was cool to see how the first generation stayed and did their job because they were thinking about their children, and then we heard from the third generation, who was grateful for their grandparents for giving them the opportunity to have a good education.
lch bin 50% Türke und 50% Schweizer im Herzen.
you can still hear an accent when the second generation Turk speaks. i wonder why. and I mean it good as having an accent is sign of courage as you are speaking and learning a different language…
Accent are the product of the environment you live in. German accent from Hanover is very much different from Munchen. Like Italian s in USA still have distinct accent and so on.
This video mislabels him as 2nd generation. He was born in Turkey, therefore he is 1st generation.
I'm watching from.Philippines❤❤❤❤
@@crazypasta7749 du bist nicht deutscher
@@crazypasta7749 Don't listen to this troll. We Germans are welcoming to any people and ethnicity.
Thank you for your interest in Germany
@@crazypasta7749 Your mother will keep cleaning your toilet til you're 18. So you're good for another 10 years. Then you'll become an alcoholic and live of German welfare.
@@hello.itsme.5635 *Anyone who respects the host countries culture
can you please read instead of putting translation? it i cant read small lattes.
Its more authentic this way you can hear how they are saying what they are saying and I personaly like that if you have difficulties reading the translation you can still pause the video
Turkish Germany History ❤
Some of them just becoming totally German in 4-5 generations
Turks will not forget their rootes and traditions en culture dont worry
@@user-zz6nr3vb3j Turkey is a beautiful culture and country. As long as you have that everything is gonna be great
It only possible if they marry Germans, especially if their men will marry German girls.
That’s good, that’s integration.
@@user-zz6nr3vb3j i just wish women to not turn into regular sluts.
The truth is Germany needed extra money. Tears tears. We conquered aphovai and saw McKinley laid dowN. Passed it to Tan for Ongpin Heri Rage Hero ism Here Here.
From Business process 10,000 for me 3,000 food 7,000 transport and transfers.
Many deductions for Health
Wow, A lot of ChatGPT comments
Yeah Turks are very european
Just look at how their european "brothers" treat them
If after 60 years in Germany and you still think yourself a turk first, then you're not really integrated.
If after 60 years in germany they still think of me as a turk first, then they really are part of the problem.
so what? then they are not integrated. 150 years ago people would not consider themselves as germans but rather as prussians, bavarians, saxons etc.
All over the world it's the same . People put there ID stamp first and foremost
@@e.h.6698 this is true, identity and integration is a 2 way thing.
@@tengrici431 They were Successfully Integrated.
And they merged as a Single country!
Someone in power came up with an idea and said this to himself: "Hey! Let's allow an American car maker to flood Germany with foreigners from an entirely different culture. Germans have always been cool with that sort of thing".
They brought culture calling it food would be trivializing.
Bring in Food Culture.
What is valuable in German culture? classic boring and cold. Also, I don't want to talk about the food at all.
@@cihanozel4344 What is valuable in Turkish culture?
That is purely a matter of opinion? Everyone finds certain things better and just not so great.
@@cihanozel4344 brother Germans in my view are an amazing European nation, they have immense contribution to humanity. You pick a field and I can give you an example.
Respect for each other is the basis of love and affection, isn’t that a Turkish value?
@@mimimi8238 I respect Germans, and Im sure there’re many others from oriental culture who appreciate Germans as our favorite nation from Europe.
As someone from the US these immigrants just look German to me
I'm an American like you our opinions don't matter here. Some Americans have strong regional, ethnic, and tribal identities. Not all Americans sole idenity is his nationality and their loyalty goes far beyond nationality.
@@oliveraparicio8464 maybe your opinion doesn't matter but I possess agency
@@thepeff Your opinion doesn't matter because its the germans that get to decide who's ethnically german and who's a german national.
@@oliveraparicio8464 that sounds like a very German thing to say. Which reich did you say you were from?
They look turkish bro
Now I see where the goodlooking people in Germany come from. 🤣
Bad* you mean
@@user-pn8vy9tn9j you are right. Heard terrible stories.
you need better eyes m8
Us Turks are bad looking lmao
But so are Europeans
I'm moving to Germany.
Don’t
Звездець як цікаво 😂😂😂
Durkah durkah
Yusuf is hot
İrkcimisin
@@ego3025 bruh what
Aren't we all Turks? 🤗
Yaaaaaaaaaaaa nekadar tatlısınız İstanbul'a bekleriz
Still not "angekommen".
Germany also had an amazing culture!!!!!!
Badly done , cud hv been done more interesting
could you have done it better?
@@SgtCake101I think yes, god willing
gelmeyin lan buraya
Senden izin mi alacaklardı :D
Masha Allah❤️
In Germany, they say Deus vult
@@JV-dj2ru 😊 aslında bizdede massallah deninmez ama çoğumuz müslüman olduğumuz için bazı dini kelimeleri kullaniyoruz
@@JV-dj2ru Isn't that a French saying???
Does German and Turkish familiarity have anything to do with the holocausts they both commited?
Siz hala siyahileri dışliyosunuz,kafan nerede içtinmi daha geçen Ermenistan Azerbaycan saldirdi
@@ego3025 That a yes?
Dude, are you serious?
One major difference between the two is that the one apologized, while the other didn't.
Muslin🤢🤢🤢
7:58 Mmm... Turkish food is definetely not better than German. If German food woudnt be yummy, there would be no tourists in Oktoberfest for eating Bavarian Würsten ( Sausages) Chesse and Beer
Sorry, German food is often either "meh" or super salty. I do like Sauerkraut though
@@luxploded British foood is "meh" but not the German one. Btw Yes, Most of the times, German and Austrian food is kinda Salty
German cuisine sucks. Sorry not sorry. There is a reason why Turkish restaurants are way too popular in Germany.
@@S.Solmazturk Actually, in Germany only the Turkish snack bars are popular (kebab, roll) Restaurants there are also, but much less than Greek, Italian and usually sit there also rather Turks / Arabs, etc. and less the Germans.
Overall, most Germans would know almost no dishes except Döner, Rollo, Börek with a few exceptions perhaps.
@@Janoip don't mean for Germany, but Turkish food is loved in the world. Even Nusret and Czn Burak are both Turkish.
Atleast care to recognise the Armenian, Greek and Assyrian genocide and move towards making your land of origin (Turkey) accept it.
That's a humble request.
you mean the western and russian influence to revolt and divide Ottoman empire and its consequences, right?
nope. Turkey recognizes that hundreds of thousand of Armenians died in 1915 but it's not a genocide.
Armenians unfortunately paid a heavy price for trying to destabilize the Ottoman Empire and help the biggest enemy (at that time) Russia.
No one says it never happend, people just don't classify it as an Genocide.
humble request to call our ancestors which fought for their land and dignity war criminal murderers? Classic indian troll.
@@S.Solmazturk what you call a homeland is the land of people you massacre for centuries. Turks not just exterminated them slowly but heavy taxed them for their religion and ethnicity.
The worse of all you are proud of your criminal past and glorify it making radicular excuses!
@@hovonbogosin8736 cry me a river. Conquerors were relatively nice to them for a millenia until their betrayal. They should be thankful, at least most of them kept their lives and living in rich western countries. Russia, France, England etc. Would exterminate them.
I can just say one thing and that is that Turkish values and their food is amazing!!!! Germany got the döner kebab from them which I always miss so much.
Merhaba! Турки уважают только турков! Чтобы это понять, просто поживите в Турции некоторое время. Они - очень консервативны, не уважают никакую другую религию, кроме Ислама. Могут показывать на вас пальцем и говорить yabanci открыто, ничего и никого, не стесняясь. Не церемоньтесь с ними! Кто захочет стать европейцем - останется, остальные вернутся домой, и ни в коем в случае не позволяйте продвигать им свою культуру, иначе она поглотит вас.
What..If a person doesn't respect another religion, means this disrespectful person doesn't deserve any respect himself as an individual. I do respect all religions also i am interested.
@@user-zx1sx9bj5t you understood nothing
till kurks sub-h 🪳😂