Street cone dust cyclone build-015
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- In this video I build a dust cyclone using a street cone and a 5 gal bucket
I use a couple pieces of scrap plywood and a 8 foot 2x4 for supports
I also use a propane torch to heat up some 2 inch PVC to fit my shop vac hose .
This is a cost effective way to build a dust cyclone for a shop vac that anyone can make for just a few bucks with a few parts
Stuff I used in the video
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Nice work
There is so much brilliance in this video : rotating table tops; circle jig; aluminum bat as cone cutter; PVC melt-joining... Thanks for posting!!
+Ken Morley thanks & thanks for watching.
"Brilliance" or "oddity?" That "brilliant" aluminum bat punch is definitely *very* sketchy. 1st off, I can think of a dozen better uses for an old bat. 2nd It is SO EASY to cut that material with snips. Faster, better, safer, & you get the size hole you want. I've built hold-punches for commercial applications and this punch is as bad as they come. I've never seen worse. This whole bat thing struck me as the result of not having sufficient analytical skills to come up with a better solution. PVC melt-joining is "brilliant?" I can't be the only one that routinely works with plastics. FYI it's kind of a normal thing to do in joining plastics. Not all plastics can be joined this way, each plastic has particular characteristics and some will join themselves readily, other's won't at all. Some offer a weak joint, some a strong, it's all variable. I'm guessing you're kind of new at making stuff, or perhaps just a drunken bromance post, whichever I do agree with you on the rotating table. That was snazzy.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.... did you just drill a hole with a BASEBALL BAT?!
i dont get it...where in this video do u see a baseball bat?
@Northwest Aerial Photography oh ok..thanks..got me there
@@starofeden9277 Open your eyes, or are they full of dust.......duh
@@dougpearce2901 domeone did point out yhr place in the video...because i didnt see it ...i skipped through as i was looking for ideas
That was Awesome!!!!!!!
That chop Saw bench though! brilliant mate
Great build Patrick, is that bat corked.....lol
when you spun your table to have the chop saw appear I yelled Whoa! that's awesome!
Yeah so did I
That makes three of us I guess
Cameron Wong I swearrrrr
Like what gives him the right to subtly pull a rabbit out his hat like that.
It was an instant thumbs up
boil water, put the pvc pipe for few minutes and it will be soft to be streched, no fumes and a better finising
Or use a heat gun, if you have one, or a hair dryer, if you do not.
and flair it on a wine bottle..
All you people with your over complicated NASA shit. Use a heat gun, takes 4-5 minutes, and doesn't burn your work up and make you look like an amateur on youtube. Most people dont have a hot plate to boil water in a woodshop. You're welcome.
After watch this guy putter around his garage and breathe through his mouth, I am absolutely certain he did NOT build that saw table that flips.
TimTrOn3000..... It’s kinda like watching a Monkey F*ck a Football !
TimTrOn3000 , he made the flip top cart. The internet has enough dicks.
Use a heatgun to heat your PVC and use infrared thermometer to obtain about 100°C (210°F). I fixed car bumper works with this method.
Nice Patrick! Has the DOT come looking for their cones yet? :)
Home depot sells them too....LOL
I would assume you would want the interior of the cone to remain as smooth as possible for the vortex airflow. By adding in all those internal screws to each 2x2 (which also did not seem necessary to do at all) you seem to have limited the intended purpose of vortex airflow.
A healthy bead of construction adhesive or other tough glue along the inner edge of 2x2 would work in place of screws.
9:45 "I'd rather have it tight, than loose" Truer words have never been spoken by any man.
Hahahaaa, so I'll set up my chopsaw! BAM! I am in desperate need of that! My saws are both outback under a tarp, If I could combine them like that then I would bring them back in. Very nice work Patrick.
thanks Kevin i'm glad you approve thanks for watching
Did I see a lighter with 420 on it? my kind of guy
Crack head engineering at it's finest! Well done!
Wow, Patrick! Like several other commenters, there was so much in this video that I loved, like your rotating table saw/chop saw stand, table saw circle jig, aluminum bat hole punch, and of course, the cyclone build itself! Outstanding!
The boiling water heat source for the PVC is a great suggestion, 'cause I'd like to see more of your videos and those fumes from torch heating the PVC will shorten your years for sure!
Keep up the great work Patrick!
11:18 neat trick with heating PVC but you should really do that outside and while holding your breath. you are getting benzene compounds and possibly dioxins with that torch - extremely toxic. just sayin
+hffcom Yes on the toxic fumes... Go to Harbor Freight and get a heat gun for $10 when they go on sale.
Good job! I have a Dust Deputy cyclone (bought just the kit, used my own bucket) but I need to add the plywood disks to the lid like you did. My lid sucks down too much when I use it. I also like how you heat and stretch the PVC - didn't know that could be done.
Love this fix and you way to explain and do things.
No holesaw, f... it i'm grinding a bat and using that !
Don't have a fitting, f... it ill just heat it up and force it into shape, love it !!
Awesome funny video:-)
Haha. Great comment bud. Thanks.
For gosh darn sake use a riving knife on the table saw
Great video thanks... you really got a buzz out of flipping your saw over, didn't you? It showed in your face. I think my saws are going to be taught how to do flips fairly soon. No shop vac yet, but coming up, and I'll follow it with a cyclone for sure! :o)
Great video your the Mcgiver of woodworking you could use the flare on your baseball bat to make your pvc taper
Nice build Patrick, I love that flip top work bench. I use water in my jet boil to heat up my PVC, it makes a nice even heat transfer w/out any discolor of the PVC ( I improvised because I ran out of Map gas)
thumbs up and added to faves I like seeing the build but if you had one already why not just stack and seal two buckets together ?
Terrific project man, well done on the video too. Good use of a freebie traffic cone. (The $40 for the Oneida Dust Deputy plastic cyclone is really kind of pricey for what you get. Though it pays for itself in terms of shopvac filters inside of 3 months.)
Nice job! Thanks for the video. Nice shop too. I liked the flip top saw table. I need one of those. Now I can't decide what to build first, the dust collector or the saw table! Thanks!
Wouldnt it have been easier to just have attached the first cyclone to a bigger container, like { connect the buckets together}
EXACTLY what i thought!
Having two means he can have One cyclone permanetly attatched to His primary tool and move around the secondary as needed.
It also allows for double "filtration" so the shop vac filter will remain unclogged for longer periods of time.
Also easier to empty the buckets individually into tall dumpsters or move around generally.
Great video! I am looking forward to making 1 or maybe 2 like you did. I liked how you explained everything. I definitely saved your video and subscribed and marked the bell so when you make future videos.
Great build man. Just a tip for future builds, you can soften the PVC with boiling water. This will keep the pipe from turning black and it'll keep the safety police off your back. LOL
instead of using A 5 GALLON BUCKET JUST DROP IT ON TOP OF A 55 GALOLON STEEL DRUM BARREL..WORKS FINE FOR ME..
That was so freakin cool. The I seen the bat sitting there and wondered what is was for. Never guesed it was a hole cutter. Brilliant idea; and the PVC propane trick was awesome. Lots of great info. Totally cool build. Thanks brother.
Chris Torre well thanks so much for commenting and watching
After all the research I've done, I've picked your basic design as how to make mine.
Will basically be a carbon copy, with some mods of course, thats what DIY is all about!
My needs are also currently less than yours.
But I will connect my lil 2hp shop vac with 2 inch pvc to the top of the cyclone, then the standard 1 1/4 shop vac tube it came with to run out of the cyclone to my tools/whatever.
My thinking is the 2 inch from the shop vac will allow maximum airflow but not lots of pressure, then the 1 1/4 (only 1 if you count some of the tool, will have plenty of pressure to suck up dust. And it'll really be moving, so less will get sucked up by the shop vac fitting at the top (high cfm, low pressure 2 inch pipe).
I'll let you know how it goes!
Also, I have no planar, lathe,, band saw table saw (although making a table I can use my circular saw, router, and jigsaw as fixed vertical tools).
So I think this set up will work for now. I also live in an apartment,so thats a real limitation.
Only thing I think you missed was the fact that these dust collection systems work great for most debris, but can't really capture sub 5 micron dust, which is by far the worst for your health. So I outfitted my shop vac with a HEPA filter (claims 99.97% at 0.3 micron). IT was pricey, 50 bucks, but will make a huge difference for your health, not just easy cleanup.
Thanks for the thorough, detailed video, have a good one eh,
Peace
Chris
I am beginning to wonder: Why do you need a cone shape anyway? I don't think it actually figures into the aerodynamic properties.
But is that a proven fact or just an assumption? Obviously you need a circular path where the air can spin and an upward exit in the center for the air to leave the chamber. The dust is going to settle downward and needs an exit on the bottom of the spin chamber. It could be a cone or a slot. I seen it done either way.
Cool stuff Pat. Great low-buck McGuyver trick! Maybe you could make one addition: a deeper dust chamber. Maybe hobble two 5 gal. buckets together. All that you would do is butt two 5gal buckets, base to base, and screw and glue them together. You'd have to cut out all but a inch or two of the centers, so the dust can fall to the bottom container. Maybe sandwich some plywood or something to increase the rigidity, etc. Then glue the lid to the bottom container (or not?). Voila! You got a 10 gal dust receptacle! Or convert a trashcan into a dust chamber? RubberMaid Brute trash cans are durable, have pretty good lids, and even have the wheeled dolly attachment. But, them Rubbermaid/Brute trash cans aren't cheap. And you'd have to build some sort of internal frame to keep the trash can from collapsing. I think that may be departing from the essence of your video: make it at ultra low cost (dirt cheap!). Whatever volume you need. Just some ideas. Cool video, real simple!
why not just put a bigger bucket under the first cyclone?
Good build. Word of caution. Use electrical PVC instead of plumbing PVC. Electrical is designed to be heated without releasing any deadly chemicals. If you have to use plumbing PVC, do it in a well ventilated area. I had to bend custom 22.5 degree bends for pressure in a sewer plant years ago with our electrical hot box. We did it outside and due to the amount of bends, the odor was still obnoxious.
Your a fucking Genius. Even though I actually use a Jet dust collector I got from my dad, very nicehome made. On a side note, that sucker makes a high amount of static electricity. Why not have somecopper wires charging some batteries and use that for some shop LED's for some cool effects workingin the evening! Just an idea from 1 genius to another...
Hey patrick...you can cut bottom out of one bucket stack on other and glue them togther..you would have 10 gallon narrow container then that dosent hog space..liked your video..im thinking of making one..God bless..Jesus Loves You
Clever idea and application. And yeah, like many other commenters here... the flip over chop saw to table saw station... brilliant! I gotta know, was the video close song done with AutoRap by Smule? Ha!
This content is a guilty pleasure....sure the flip top bench is nice and I was sure I had just killed 23 minutes of brain cells then....he hooks the cone cyclone in a chain with a second and I almost died, in fact....I'm dead. Awesome video I would not have the balls to post this and then I looked to see view count...I'm dead again. 565k x 23.25 = well idk but I may go again it was a hoot.
Duel cyclones are bad ass.
heck yeah Cyclones are the best thanks for watching
I'm sure yours does ,Mine pulls the lathe shavings back into the Shop vac. I'm also using a metal garbage can .Good Video,Thanks
i'm not sure if someone mentioned this but buy a "rain gauge", its shaped as the cyclone system, just need to make a hole for a pipe to suck up dust and it's quite cheap at any hardware store.
mad props for the spin/change saw table. But you seriously overengineered the crap outta that cyclone. That's a lot of support for something that will be mostly empty most of the time. You could run ore slurry through that thing, never mind sawdust. LOL.. Nice job though
you have a lathe why not turn a mandrel and use that to swage the pipes a lot easier, look out for a hot air gun or nick the wife's hair dryer, { note you have no need of one ,}, ,also please use the guards on the machines, I been wood machining for 67 years and still doing it, shuddered when you passed you arm over the blade and noticed the roving knife was missing they are there for a reason, as is the over head guard , other wise great work Patrick ,had you thought about marking the stays temp screw and remove then drill all the holes ,just a thought ,Gkids just lost their practice parking cones hIHI.
OH loved your flip bench going to see what I can come up with, never to old to learn and always someone has thought of a different way , mate keep those fingers use the guards
great work cobber.
I was disappointed when the router and flush trim bit was used....that's way to easy ....after the baseball bat hole saw ....I looking for trimming the plexie with a modified weed eater or pogo stick...🤣
Enjoyed the video.....some interesting tips on various methods on cutting parts
Just setting up my first workshop at the tender age of 60. Will be making one of these to save all the cleaning up after turning on the lathe and the saws. Thanks.
Heat the bat it will cut easier...can't believe I just said that.... Also for the effort you could have made it out of wood. JMO though.
A nice 55 gallon drum with casters would be even better. Good job tho!
Your build is awesome. I just grabbed a cone to build one as well. But if your filling up your bucket to fast why not just get a bigger bucket? Lol.
Great video but a few mistakes, the worst one is your straight pipe coming through center of lid and the angled pipe at top of cone are wrong. The straight pipe should come only a few inches in the vortex and the angled pipe should sit a few inches below that. Otherwise youre just sucking saw dust before it has a chance to fall to bottom of bucket
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I like it. I'm gonna make one ;)
cut of 1/3 from bottom out of your bucket and put in in to a new bucket this you don't have to open up anything to dump the Bucket you just lift up the whole thing and everything go to the Bucket below. If you don't have a good seal don't push down to hard put a strip of shop rag or any soft door seal or strip of foam glued evenly on the out side of the primary bucket to prevent dust.
Salut Patrick j'ai vraiment aimais ton cyclone que j'ai fait le mien il fonctionne très bien je suis content Beaucoup moins de poussières la prochaine fois je vais essayer de faire table qui tourne sur elle même (français du sud de la France
thanks for the no bs video. Thanks for not making 90 % of the video you cutting wood on your table saw like most woodworking vids. Great and to the point with the exact right mount of info.
Part i liked best is NO STUPID MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Use a heat gun instead of a blow torch to heat your PVC. I use my wife hair blow dryer but she is a hair dresser and has a powerful professional dyson hair dryer that gets hot like a heat gun.
Highways authority: You got a receipt for that cone?, because we are missing a few ! Lol.
Why not just mount the cyclone on a big trash can? You could even put it outside and not take up shop space. Good show by the way. I like it.
Bonjour Patrick très bonne explications pour ton cyclone. J'ai vu aussi ta table qui tourne sur elle même super gain de place génial merci à plus
11:20. There is just something very wrong with forcing a big black tube into a narrow white hole...
Instead of a blow torch I would have used a heat gun which works just as well and doesn't leave burn marks like the torch did. And the cuts on the bucket lid are easier to make when the knife gets heated. You may lose one blade but its a lot less elbow grease wasted.
Good one nice design, thanks
Instead of scorching the PVC use a hair dryer, or better yet, get a heat gun.
Nice.... will it collapse without those 2by4s?
Thanks Patrick, can't believe how efficient it worked.
Steve, Newcastle UK
thats great i would love to see a vid of yours in action upload a vid and shoot me the link
That's the awesomest. Cy-clone.
um i think u only had enough gas because u sat there talking with it on hint wait to you re ready gas is more pricey then video edits.
A baseball bat hole saw... just when you think you've seen it all... haha way to go Patrick!
+Maybe Dave Same thin g i thought
Did you consider making a bigger bucket instead of a second cyclone?
Wouldnt it have been easier to just use a bigger bucket on the original haha. Love the video tho.
Why not a bigger bucket? Awesome video!
What’s up Rojo… it’s me Dominic…nice work
hey Patrick i liked ur flip top for ur table saw and miter saw do u have a video on how u build it, also liked ur cyclone video also, i will build me one.
+Bobby Romero a vid is in the works thanks for watching
holesaw is probably cheaper
then the bat lol
The cheapest hole saw/bat/tool to own is the one you already have
Try boiling water for pvc heating if you want to make it look nice!
Nice job, it works good. I don't have one of those cones, but gonna try it with a simple bucket. When i saw the baseball-bat i thought you were gonna heat it and melt trough. See your cyclone rotates counter-clockwise, does it work better than clockwise? By the way, nice chop-saw solution :)
Wow! I learned a few things from this! Great video
I have already made a cone cyclone dust collector. It works very good but i have to do some modification, such as a bigger bucket, add some wheels too. What is your opinion about the depth on extraction pipe in the cone?
did you tried to connect them is series to check what happens?
i did . works great . so when the first fills up it goes in to the 2nd
Hey great video. Why didn't you just swap out the collection bucket (5 gal.) up to a full size trash bin? Looks like you could easily unbolt the plywood flanges from the bucket lid and attach them to another lid on a larger vessel. I am planning my own collector and curious if you considered this. Thanks.
+Ian Dunstan hey Ian for the longest i just let the bucket fill up so i got a larger bin and here is a vid of what i did to upgrade ua-cam.com/video/jI_B1Svwk0k/v-deo.html thanks for commenting and watching
Buenas noches, me podrias indicar las medidas que tuvieron en cuenta para el diseño, y el potencial de la bomba de aspiración? te agradezco mucho!
Good night , could you tell me the measures taken into account for the design, the flow, and the potential of the suction pump ? thank you so much!
Hopefully you did not breathe much of the fumes from burning the PCV pipe. Btw, you could have accomplished this task by using a heat gun, easier to control than propane flame.
thanks for watching I had a fan on was in a open area so its all good
Maybe just put your cyclone on a 20 gallon barrel.
How much does a street cone cost, and how does that compare to just buying an Oneida cyclone? I appreciate the creative design, but I'm just curious if this really saves any money after adding up all the material..../shrug. Also, you can go buy a plastic 55 gallon drum, and would only need one cyclone, instead of two smaller ones. Just a thought. Enjoyed your video though.
I made one a few years ago - out of a cone as well... I need to reinforce it with wood bars like you did... then it won't collapse... I quit using it. Now... I'll make better thanks to your help. Nice vid. :) I like that you utilize your small spaces well (Chop saw etc)
if your too lazy to empty your bucket all the time like ME! haha get rid of the bucket and get yourself one of those 55 gallon blue plastic drums, mine sits in the corner of my metal shop and works great! I'm also in the process of building a wood shop and will make one for that shop too. Love your cone idea so smart i have two of them in my back yard i bought for a project and have not touched them since, i will make my new one with it thanks to your video great job!!! Thank you!!!!!
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i love your video I'm just glad people like you are on you tube willing to teach us beginners i learn a lot from y'all i wish i had the guts to put my projects online like yours but for now I'm just building my shop i hope to join the art community soon!
For those of you who are 'concerned', those cones can be purchased reasonably cheap at most safety equipment supply stores. That way you don't have the CHP knocking on your door...
thanks Joseph i always tell people to check amazon they have the same cone i used for 26 bucks
Hey bring the cones back to my Jobs eight! I almost got hit by traffic!
I'm joking...
You need a 20 to 55 gallon steel barrel with a removable top, then you can work out a chip shield for this and an old furnace motor and fan for a vacume as a vacume and just vent what dust might get past it outside.
I've got an old furnace motor I'll do this with into a case and put filters on it recuse I do not want to vent it outside of my basement and loose the condition air.
You can always use a 2 stage dust collector after the cyclone with a 3 micro filter and have the filter last longer.
ua-cam.com/video/jI_B1Svwk0k/v-deo.html here is what i have now check it out
Great job getting this done with what you had in your shop. I’ll be making one or two for my shop. Thanks for sharing. Pay no attention to the jerks making comments. Unfortunately they are everywhere. Good job!
What about using 4" pipe with the traffic cone. I bought a HF HP and I thought of using the cone separator with it if effective. I hope the heating of the pipe will work well with 4" PVC. Love the flipping saw.
+Robert Burgy you know I don't have a four-inch dust collectorOnly the shop vac so I wouldn't know anything about that size ,I do figure that the more CFM's you have you risk the chance of sucking the cone in and collapsing the cone therefore blockage would be a problem, I hope you figure out what you need to do you know what if you figured out please make a video butHey be awesome to see what you come up with thank you so much for watching I'm glad you love my flipping saw thank you so much
What kind of scroll saw do you have?
Very nise build Patrick. I am curious about your angle finder. Where did you get it.
It looks interesting. Thanks, Marty
home depot has the angle finder like his
Great build Patrick! Subscribed and liked. I'm building one modeled after yours. I'll be using a 15 Gallon fiber drum, but essentially the same. I'll let ya know how it goes.
Patrick. Your sign quite clearly says that you are in a hard hat area, and yet you have continued to make your very informative video 'sans' aforementioned headwear. Please can you rectify this faux pas in any future publications.
Thanks
well i will see what i can do and thanks for not reporting me to osha that would be some hefty fines and penalties thanks for watching my videos very much appreciated 😀
Everyone keep your silicone tubes where you can see them... He now has Two "cyclones" that need to be sealed... lol, or you can be like the road crews looking up and down the street where they "Lost" their cones...
... Nice vid though, the ghetto "frugalness" stayed consistent throughout and was pretty creative... but if the Bucket fills up that quick, why don't you just enlarge the lid to fit a garbage can instead? .. there might be a half a second delay on suction when it starts up while the larger volume equalizes to the low pressure, but after that there won't be a difference in suction/performance (with the exception of the larger capacity)...
...and people frequently (once a week or two) "try to throw out" their garbage cans with their garbage... but the garbage men refuse to take the can... and just leave them lying on the side of the street.
*** oh, and to everyone else, you might in addition to keeping an eye on your silicone, you might also want to watch your garbage can on trash day... I'm getting the feeling "someone" might have tipped him off that they're easy targets...
Hahaha you were really burning pvc pipe
Patrick I know you posted this long ago. However, I wanted to thank you for the inspiration. I have mine started in my shop now. So far I have made everything with stuff I have salvaged or had on hand. Total cost so far is ZERO.
I am coming up to the point where I may have to spend some money on hose and PVC.
I think I may have to wait for this weekend to finish but it is coming along quite well.
Quick question if you don't mind. How did you calculate the circle of plexiglass for the inside of the cone?
Very good video. For the person who has the tools, the time AND can get the right cone. I fear it is worth my time to buy a cyclone (or build a less "complete" model). But... Kudos for the ad hock engineering. I've done much of that in my life, often living where "store bought" just isn't an option.
Poor cone. They catch hell all day long... Then get their poor little noses cut off.
What the name of your scroll saw company
Can you show us how you built the cup saw table please
I like your design and construction of the separator, well done. This may have already been said, but, wouldn't you be better off using something of 10 to 20 (or more perhaps) gallon collection container instead of five gallons?